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Has anyone seen the crap on the GM connecting Agassi to doping?

andre the great
09-25-2005, 05:53 PM
I just saw it ,seems to relate to an article by Magnus Norman where Agassi's name is associated with players who might use illegal stuff. I think this is crap how on earth could an athelte be at the top of his profession for two decades and not be caught if he was using stuff that he shouldn't be using. There is an implication by some that the ATP would bury any positive drug test of Andre's but to assume that this would never be leaked in the space of 20 years is rubbish.Also I think that Agassi and Graf are people of genuine integrity and I don't think Andre would be able to waltz into a GS event with head held high if he had been tested positive.

joycomesmorning
09-25-2005, 06:39 PM
There was one fan of some of the South Americans who went on this kick after the 2002 Australian Open...apparently Rios started a rumor that Agassi left Australia rather than take a doping test...Proof: NONE.

Most if not all the "allegations" are born in jealousy...and when a player is as popular and as rich as Andre, that is to be expected....

There are a TON of rumors out there now about Raphael Nadal being on steroids because of his "Instant" muscle growth...no proof...just more jealousy!!

There's one poster on another board who insists that Andre is gay...another insists that Andre is consistently rude to officials and ballkids...I've even heard that Andre cheats on his wife...TOO many people with too much time on their hands!

Andre is drug tested about 15-20 times a year...blood and urine... ALL negative results!!! COUNT ON IT!!! There are too many people involved in the testing process...if there had ever been a positive reslut, it would have been leaked about someone this high profile!!!

Taylor Dent tells about a time a couple of years ago in San Jose when AA had such a bad cold that he could barely walk...and he wouldn't take anything for it because of the implcations of cold meds in his system....

Here's the deal: Andre earns about 90% of his $40+ million per year from endorsements and his business deals...only about 10% comes from playing tennis...now what would be the sense of his using drugs to play tennis when the even smell of his being a doper would end his endorsements!!!

I find it interesting that when Andre isn't playing for a week or so and out of the spotlight, there always have to be stories about him...he's just the most interesting to talk about....

The same with Steffi...she has been retired from tennis for over 6 years now...and yet she's steady fodder for the tennis message boards....people can't seem to stop talking about her...

I guess if you're interesting, you're interesting!!!

jcm

BTW, as far as I was able to ascertain, there was one paragraph in Magnus Norman's book that said awhile back when Andre lost the weight and got fit, a few players wondered aloud if he did it artificially with drugs....and from that this latest "rumor" grew...

Agassi Aces
09-25-2005, 07:25 PM
According to my sources, Andre has been tested at all the AMS Events he has played this year (Indian Wells, Miami, Rome, Hamburg, Montreal) the three GS he has played (Australia, France and US) and the International Series Events in Dubai and LA. ALL NEGATIVE!

mandy20
09-25-2005, 08:13 PM
Everybody is jealousy of Andre that is all there is to it can Andre sue

AZILANA
09-26-2005, 04:42 AM
those people got no proof, they just want andre to look bad and cannot find flaws in character to attack, this is the best way they can get to Andre, I hope this rumors reach andre and to prove them wrong, do an on the spot testing...

RebelNYC
09-27-2005, 05:39 PM
Sour grapes. The players are all tested and Andre passes each and every test. They then say that ATP is "sweeping the results under the rug." Yeah, right. It's very easy to say anything you want to say without proof and unfortunately people repeat
the rumours. I'm not saying that Andre is NOT capable of doping (anyone can be a
possibility). I am saying that Andre passes his drug tests, so until he fails, I do not
believe it. You can accuse anyone. Without proof, it means nothing. Andre passes
his tests, that's all there is to it.

tangerine_dream
09-27-2005, 06:05 PM
Pfft. Andre owns Norman so it's no wonder he's accusing Andre of doping. :lol:

Unless someone provides concrete evidence that Andre has been/is juiced up (which they can't) then I wouldn't waste my time worrying about it. With regards to the Argentine press' rumormill, if I want truth over rumors then I'll read the British Sun, that's how reliable they are.

That entire thread is mostly made up of Agassi's loudest detractors like GWShitler and Rosie the cow, so I wouldn't put much into anything they say. They have no proof of anything.

Agassi Aces
09-27-2005, 10:38 PM
There is an article on http://www.tv4.se which sees Magnus Norman publicly apologising about the claims he made about Andre. He stated that it was post 1999 himself and a few of the other players wandered how Andre kept so fit, and even now. It's his brilliance. Norman has said he is sorry and wishes Andre all the best for the future and in particular at the 2005 if...Stockholm Open.

AgassiFan
09-27-2005, 11:34 PM
I think this is crap how on earth could an athelte be at the top of his profession for two decades and not be caught if he was using stuff that he shouldn't be using..

First of all, he didn't NEED to use it for 20 years, so you might as well stop this nonsense. He needed it for the last 3-6.

Andre and his people, Reyes in particular, are very smart, so if he did dope, he would have made sure to STAY AHEAD OF THE TESTING - hell, there are many legitimate questoions raised as to the the (insufficient) scope of testing in tennis NOW - 5-10 years ago, it was even easier to get away back then. They don't even have a test for HGH yet. And even if he got "caught" once or twice, you better believe it ATP would do everything in their power to keep it under wraps.

It's no coincidence Lance Armstrong and Andre are such close friends - and I still can't imagine how Lance was able to get away with doping for 7 years.

AgassiFan
09-27-2005, 11:42 PM
.There's one poster on another board who insists that Andre is gay...another insists that Andre is consistently rude to officials and ballkids...I've even heard that Andre cheats on his wife...TOO many people with too much time on their hands!
.

Is he gay? Maybe, maybe not.
Is he rude and petulant at times? Absolutely; not as much as in 1986, though
Is he an adulterer? Athletes are known to cheat like crazy, but who knows.

AgassiFan
09-27-2005, 11:49 PM
.The same with Steffi...she has been retired from tennis for over 6 years now...and yet she's steady fodder for the tennis message boards....people can't seem to stop talking about her.....

Greta Garbo was out of the motion pictures business for a couple of decades and she was still tabloid fodder, big-time.

joycomesmorning
09-28-2005, 01:25 AM
You make me laugh, AgassiFan... :) I really do get a kick out of your posts.

You remind me so much of a friend of mine who's a wheelchair gal...and she gets a hoot out of going onto sports boards and stirring up the troops...

Whatever, you're really funny!!! I enjoy reading your posts!!! Keep up the good work!!!

I sort of assume that the "AgassiFan" means you're a fan of his tennis and not of the man...that's all right!! I adore the man even more than I adore the tennis player...but we're all different!!!

Whatever...

jcm

Agassi Aces
09-28-2005, 07:51 AM
First of all, he didn't NEED to use it for 20 years, so you might as well stop this nonsense. He needed it for the last 3-6.

Andre and his people, Reyes in particular, are very smart, so if he did dope, he would have made sure to STAY AHEAD OF THE TESTING - hell, there are many legitimate questoions raised as to the the (insufficient) scope of testing in tennis NOW - 5-10 years ago, it was even easier to get away back then. They don't even have a test for HGH yet. And even if he got "caught" once or twice, you better believe it ATP would do everything in their power to keep it under wraps.

It's no coincidence Lance Armstrong and Andre are such close friends - and I still can't imagine how Lance was able to get away with doping for 7 years.

So do you reckon Andre has cheated? I certainly do not! The suggestion was that there is more in these cortisone injections, but the ATP is so rigorous in drug testing. Look at Coria, Rusedski, Puerta, Ullirach, Canas, Bogomolov Junior just to name a few. If Andre cheated he would be found out. It's not his nature too. Above being the world's greatest sportsman, he is the most kind and compassionate man there is. He is so honest and would never cheat, and nor would Gill Raes or Steffi Graf.

Andre forever
09-28-2005, 11:05 AM
go guys...tell agassi fan that

makes me wonder..if agassi fan is REALLY..ANDRE AGASSI FAN


FYI ANDRE is not a GAY ..what? " MAYBE, MAYBE NOT" ???


u kidding me :p ..HE's NOT :wavey:

joycomesmorning
09-28-2005, 11:52 AM
LOL! Of course, "AgassiFan" isn't really an AgassiFan...

A friend of mine (who has some health issues and has a lot of time and negative energy to deal with) goes to various sports boards (a la Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds) and stirs the waters...likes to get everyone upset.... it's sort of a "hobby" with some people.

Have a good laugh and let it go...it doesn't hurt anyone...and eventually Agassifan will get bored with us and re-invent herself/himself as "FedererFan" and be off there to stir up the troops!!

jcm

Andre forever
09-28-2005, 12:33 PM
good one lol

AgassiFan
09-28-2005, 05:41 PM
I sort of assume that the "AgassiFan" means you're a fan of his tennis and not of the man...that's all right!! I adore the man even more than I adore the tennis player...


I have been following him since I was 6 going on 7 in '91.

I just have no illusions as to his 'specialness' as a person. PR/media hype is just that.

Don't presume you know he is not a doper/gay/cheat, either. Anything is possible, and in fact - probable.

AgassiFan
09-28-2005, 05:49 PM
A friend of mine (who has some health issues and has a lot of time and negative energy to deal with) goes to various sports boards (a la Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds) and stirs the waters...likes to get everyone upset.... it's sort of a "hobby" with some people.




Aww, Andre's salad-tosser is delving into fiction now.... Cute.

joycomesmorning
09-28-2005, 05:55 PM
I have been following him since I was 6 going on 7 in '91.

I just have no illusions as to his 'specialness' as a person. PR/media hype is just that.

Don't presume you know he is not a doper/gay/cheat, either. Anything is possible, and in fact - probable.
Well, whatever is possible or proabable about Andre is debatable...but what is for sure about you is that we forced you out of your closet...

Best to you, AgassiFan-Sort of- Not Really :)

jcm

AgassiFan
09-29-2005, 12:18 AM
Well, whatever is possible or proabable about Andre is debatable...but what is for sure about you is that we forced you out of your closet...

Best to you, AgassiFan-Sort of- Not Really :)

jcm


Um, I've been accused of being gay (something about it being a prerequisite to Agassi fandom) by both sigmagirl and JenN waaaay back when I joined early in '04, so you're a bit late with that particular dig... LOL, unless you meant something else by 'closet'

So if I were to die from testicular cancer or some such, would you be happy or indifferent?

AgassiDomination
09-29-2005, 04:05 PM
:rolleyes: