USA defeats Belgium..............Andy defeated Rochus 6:7, 7:6, 7:6, 4:6, 6:3 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

USA defeats Belgium..............Andy defeated Rochus 6:7, 7:6, 7:6, 4:6, 6:3

mangoes
09-25-2005, 02:24 PM
GO USA :banana: :banana: :banana:

1sun
09-25-2005, 02:25 PM
clay clay clay

1sun
09-25-2005, 02:25 PM
andy andy andy

1sun
09-25-2005, 02:25 PM
the two dont mix

mangoes
09-25-2005, 02:26 PM
I don't care..............it's time to dig in and get the job done..........lolololol

1sun
09-25-2005, 02:27 PM
go olie!

Black Adam
09-25-2005, 02:28 PM
I just can't beleive that they exchanged 6 breaks in this set :rolleyes:

Dirk
09-25-2005, 02:28 PM
Andy sucks on clay that is why. Rochus is doing everything he can to win.

1sun
09-25-2005, 02:32 PM
damn andy won the third set

Castafiore
09-25-2005, 02:32 PM
Rochus is fighting his little heart out.
:yeah:

Dirk
09-25-2005, 02:33 PM
Rochus can still win it.

mangoes
09-25-2005, 02:33 PM
Thank You God. I had to say a prayer for Andy................lolololol

Black Adam
09-25-2005, 02:34 PM
I find Andy serving too big for a claycourt match.......he hould work on angles and construct easy points that way but anyway as long as he wins :yeah: :)

Castafiore
09-25-2005, 02:36 PM
Rochus can still win it.
It's going to be tough, though but...allez, Rochus! Komaan, Olivier! Come on, Ollie! :)

Loremaster
09-25-2005, 02:40 PM
Andy is serving ace after ace now :eek: . 5 aces i 3rd set tiebreak and 3 in his first game of 4th set :eek: and it's on clay
What's the record number of aces on clay ?

amierin
09-25-2005, 02:48 PM
Andy might be serving aces but the match is still close. Does Olivier Rochus look like his brother BTW?

And does no one in the States have the ability to teach clay court play?

Castafiore
09-25-2005, 02:50 PM
Does Olivier Rochus look like his brother BTW?


Yes, you can see that they are related
http://www.rowztennis.com/bvhumbeeck_imgs/rochusbrothers.gif

I'm proud of Olivier...28 aces and all that power against him and the match is still close. :yeah:

amierin
09-25-2005, 02:52 PM
Yes, you can see that they are related
http://www.rowztennis.com/bvhumbeeck_imgs/rochusbrothers.gif


Thanks.

mangoes
09-25-2005, 02:54 PM
I'm sure there are those with the ability to teach clay in the US, but so much emphasis is placed on Hardcourt then grass.

I think every country has it's emphasis. I can say, can no one in Argentina teach grass? I'm sure there is, but their emphasis is clay.

amierin
09-25-2005, 03:03 PM
I'm sure there are those with the ability to teach clay in the US, but so much emphasis is placed on Hardcourt then grass.

I think every country has it's emphasis. I can say, can no one in Argentina teach grass? I'm sure there is, but their emphasis is clay.

Mangoes I agree. But going forward all everyone is going to do is make us play clay. I think Federer is leading the charge to become an all court player and Nadal is looking to do the same. I just hate to see us get left in the, uh, dust. :)

Black Adam
09-25-2005, 03:06 PM
Andy is serving ace after ace now :eek: . 5 aces i 3rd set tiebreak and 3 in his first game of 4th set :eek: and it's on clay
What's the record number of aces on clay ?
I know that Andy fired 37 aces on clay at FO 2001 against Chang but i don't know if anybody has done anybetter on clay :shrug:

Allez-H²
09-25-2005, 03:09 PM
It's going to be difficult for Ollie but I'm proud of him. He has done a fantastic job for Belgium until up now and I hope he keeps up his great play and fighting spirit in his personal career and while DC :worship:

star
09-25-2005, 03:11 PM
Ollie is a very good player. It's not all about Andy being bad on clay.

Dirk
09-25-2005, 03:14 PM
I think it's also Andy since he is bad on clay takes more time to adapt to it then Ollie. Ollie is good for sure but you don't see him contending for clay titles. Of course not having the home crowd is another factor.

1sun
09-25-2005, 03:34 PM
into the 5th!

Corey Feldman
09-25-2005, 03:34 PM
now Rochus 7-6 6-7 6-7 6-4 0-0 :lol:

Allez-H²
09-25-2005, 03:34 PM
Ollie :worship: My God those last two games were endless :unsure:

mangoes
09-25-2005, 03:36 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad: ANDY........................

hablovah19
09-25-2005, 03:36 PM
now Rochus 7-6 6-7 6-7 6-4 0-0 :lol:

allez olivier :D

*Ljubica*
09-25-2005, 03:38 PM
Ollie is a fighter - no doubt about that - he always seem to be involved in long, close matches. Good Luck in the 5th set Ollie!

Grinder
09-25-2005, 03:39 PM
Break point saved in the fifth.

tangerine_dream
09-25-2005, 04:29 PM
Watch all the "Andy sucks on clay" experts disappear now. :lol: See you in the arse-clown finals, Dirk.

Ollie is one tough cookie. I knew this match would be difficult. Andy's numbers were terrible too but I'm pleased to see him scrape his way through another win. He's still got a lot of heart left, even after having such a crummy year. :)

User id 7816
09-25-2005, 04:32 PM
Olivier :worship:

Neely
09-25-2005, 04:33 PM
WELL DONE, USA!!!! :bounce: :woohoo:

MisterQ
09-25-2005, 04:46 PM
This win will be greet for Andy's confidence (much-needed!).

I like Oli, so I'm glad he played well and gave a great match. :yeah:

LaTenista
09-25-2005, 04:58 PM
:woohoo: Andy is back!

I was really expecting it to come down to Blake-C. Rochus, what a pleasant surprise!

Also nice to see the country that knocked us out in the 1st round is into the finals.

LaTenista
09-25-2005, 05:00 PM
:awww: Ollie - you tried very hard.

star
09-25-2005, 05:03 PM
:bigclap: USA

:sad: Ollie :inlove: Ollie is such a fighter and always entertaining to watch. :)

Experimentee
09-25-2005, 05:11 PM
Looks like Andy is better on clay than people on here make out ;)

Jennay
09-25-2005, 05:12 PM
:banana: USA! :bigclap: Andy!

Oli :hug: Great fighter. :kiss:

Timariot
09-25-2005, 05:23 PM
Andy sucks on clay.

Allez-H²
09-25-2005, 05:23 PM
Congrats Andy but that point at 2-3 seriously, if you're just a lil' fairplay you'll give that point to Belgium. But they didn't I'm sorry but that just isn't right. But hey whatcha gonna do about it, Ollie amazing weekend and again congrats to the Americans.

Penguin
09-25-2005, 05:31 PM
Can someone please explain to me what happened on the bp at 3-2 final set? Rochus hits a smash well in, and after a lot of discussion the umpire suddenly says:'game USA'. This weird decision just decided the entire match...

Allez-H²
09-25-2005, 05:34 PM
Can someone please explain to me what happened on the bp at 3-2 final set? Rochus hits a smash well in, and after a lot of discussion the umpire suddenly says:'game USA'. This weird decision just decided the entire match...
I think hagar explains it quite well in this thread: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=54780

tangerine_dream
09-25-2005, 05:40 PM
I think hagar explains it quite well in this thread: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=54780
That seems more of a hysterical overreaction than an explanation.

Jimnik
09-25-2005, 05:41 PM
Nice one Andy :yeah:
Still USA's number one.

turt
09-25-2005, 05:43 PM
That seems more of a hysterical overreaction than an explanation.
Well unfortunately it's the damned truth, and the Team USA, as well as the ITF officials, should be ashamed of this! We will never know if Andy would have won fair and square, because he didn't! :mad:

jes_021
09-25-2005, 05:46 PM
I like Andy well enough, but once again his serve (and that wrong call) from Andy won him the match :yawn:

And congrats to Ollie on a great Davis Cup!!! :hug:

Grinder
09-25-2005, 05:47 PM
Make that 4-1 USA, James Blake defeated Steve Darcis 7-5 6-1/

Allez-H²
09-25-2005, 05:47 PM
That seems more of a hysterical overreaction than an explanation.
Well actually, it isn't. You could even see on the faces of Andy and Pat that they knew it was in and they were talking about it on whether they would still give the point or not I think. Guess they choose for the second one :yeah:

Merton
09-25-2005, 05:51 PM
A good win for Andy that was also very important for his confidence. Sadly, i could not see any of the matches in this tie. Team USA has a long way to go to win Davis Cup next year. It seems that every team that i can think of would make U.S. play on clay for the ties away. That should provide enough incentive for all U.S. players to improve on clay.

R.Federer
09-25-2005, 06:38 PM
Congratulations to U.S.A and Great match from Belgium
Perhaps if Xavier play, then Belgium have a chance for the doubles. But Ollie has given a good match to andi

darnyelb
09-26-2005, 08:23 AM
woohoo, safe in the World Group for next year... go Duck

Björki
09-26-2005, 08:29 AM
well done USA :yeah:

Aleksa's Laydee
09-26-2005, 08:48 AM
Olivier :sad:

mj_mj88
09-26-2005, 01:57 PM
belgium got cheated very very very very very badly. i am an american, and i felt sorry for olivier. that official is awful.
roddick should have given the point to olivier. every shot olivier hit during that point was blatantly in. worst call i've ever seen. worst than the one against serena williams at the US open. (against capriati, a couple years ago).

mj_mj88
09-26-2005, 01:58 PM
one more thing... roddick has given points back before..... i think it was the pressure of playing for his country.... playing for his teammates, not just himself.... to take such an important point like that. either way, that call really ruined a great match.