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Gaudio plays tomorrow instead of Coria

josemanuel
09-25-2005, 12:02 AM
Really strange decision. I heard it recently on TV.

+alonso
09-25-2005, 12:03 AM
VAMOS GASTÓN :) :D :)

lilfairyprincess
09-25-2005, 12:04 AM
good luck gaston!!

hopefully you can rescue this tie for argentina!! :D :yeah:

fenomeno2111
09-25-2005, 12:05 AM
WHY???? i mean i like Gaudio but his chances on HC are less than zero, even though Coria lost in straights we ALL know that his a great fighter and he'll give anything for his DC team....well anyways VAMOS GASTON!

Jinx
09-25-2005, 12:05 AM
what???????????
what¿??????????????????????
what????????????????????????
who made that desicion????? :confused: :sad: :sad:

thats really STUPID!"!!!!!!!!!!!!
If it was Mancini, hes an asshole!!!
Oh Mancini youre an ASSHOLE!!!
O my god, we are going to lose now....
Good bye CUP DAVIS

WHO MADE THAT IDIOT DESICION????
I CAN T BELIEVE THIS

WE ARE LOOSING!!!!!!!!
BAAADDD

GAUIDO IS USELESSS :( :( :(

LOVELY
09-25-2005, 12:09 AM
:bounce: you can do it Gaston :yeah:

Grinder
09-25-2005, 12:09 AM
Not smart, Hrbaty leads Gaudio 4-1

2005 Australian Open, Hard, R32
6 7 7 6 7 6 1 6 3 6 Hrbaty

2004 Australian Open, Hard, R64
1 6 5 7 0 6 Hrbaty

2001 Stuttgart, Clay R16
1 6 6 2 6 4 Gaudio

2001 Roland Garros, Clay, R128
6 7 7 5 6 7 6 2 6 8 Hrbaty

2000 Monte Carlo, Clay, SF
6 4 5 7 2 6


Hrbaty and Coria are tied 2-2 with both of Hrbaty's wins coming by retirement by Coria.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 12:09 AM
:scared: *puke*

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:09 AM
I"m sure that if this was the decision that was made, it was made with good reason. Best of luck to Gaudio. I'm not sure that it matters who Argentina plays against Hrbaty, unfortunately.

Leo
09-25-2005, 12:17 AM
:confused: Doesn't seem to make sense to me given recent form, surface, H2H, etc. but we'll see how this plays out. I'll have to root for Gaston.

Sjengster
09-25-2005, 12:23 AM
There must be serious concerns over Coria for whatever reason, because I can't think of a better way for them to lose if they tried. I mean, I hope Gaudio can push it to a fifth rubber, but the odds of him doing it on this court against this opponent, just about the worst possible for him to face, are negligible.

Merton
09-25-2005, 12:37 AM
This decision only makes sense if Coria has an injury problem.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 12:40 AM
There must be serious concerns over Coria for whatever reason, because I can't think of a better way for them to lose if they tried. I mean, I hope Gaudio can push it to a fifth rubber, but the odds of him doing it on this court against this opponent, just about the worst possible for him to face, are negligible.

I thought perhaps they'd use Puerta instead, but Puerta doesn't really have an indoor record, does he?

Fergie
09-25-2005, 12:41 AM
Good luck Gaston :yeah: (you will need it)

Carolinita
09-25-2005, 12:43 AM
i dont know if is the right decision but I hope Gaston could defeat Hrbaty!!!...VAMOS!!

revolution
09-25-2005, 12:43 AM
Hrbaty in straights, welcome to the final Slovaks!

Neely
09-25-2005, 12:45 AM
Maybe Coria himself doesn't feel up to the task? Or was he too disappointed about hismelf because I'm sure that Argentina awaited much more from this tie of him against Beck?! Or Mancini thinks "Gaudio can't lose any worse to Hrbaty than Coria did against Beck" or there is something else going on behind locked doors that we are not aware of.

Interesting decision for sure. Does Gaudio lose tomorrow, Mancini will be ripped into pieces, if not and Argentina wins this tie, he will be the King and everybody will say "what a brave and clever move".

mandoura
09-25-2005, 12:47 AM
Good Luck GG.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 12:49 AM
Maybe Coria himself doesn't feel up to the task? Or was he too disappointed about hismelf because I'm sure that Argentina awaited much more from this tie of him against Beck?! Or Mancini thinks "Gaudio can't lose any worse to Hrbaty than Coria did against Beck" or there is something else going on behind locked doors that we are not aware of.

Interesting decision for sure. Does Gaudio lose tomorrow, Mancini will be ripped into pieces, if not and Argentina wins this tie, he will be the King and everybody will say "what a brave and clever move".

Exactly. Remember when Luli was criticized for using Puerta in the doubles against the Aussies? Perhaps he thinks making a similar gamble will pay off? Maybe it will, but I'm not counting on it.

MissMoJo
09-25-2005, 12:49 AM
what???????????
what¿??????????????????????
what????????????????????????
who made that desicion????? :confused: :sad: :sad:

thats really STUPID!"!!!!!!!!!!!!
If it was Mancini, hes an asshole!!!
Oh Mancini youre an ASSHOLE!!!
O my god, we are going to lose now....
Good bye CUP DAVIS

WHO MADE THAT IDIOT DESICION????
I CAN T BELIEVE THIS

WE ARE LOOSING!!!!!!!!
BAAADDD

GAUIDO IS USELESSS :( :( :(
You're taking it well :lol:
Anyway, hopefully Gaston can get the win. I just hope this doesn't mean something's wrong with Guille :unsure:...

Leo
09-25-2005, 12:53 AM
Maybe Coria himself doesn't feel up to the task? Or was he too disappointed about hismelf because I'm sure that Argentina awaited much more from this tie of him against Beck?!

As much as I dislike Coria, he would never quit or lose determination like that. It's more likely that Coria is not physically able to play tomorrow or simply that the coach thinks Gaudio would have a better chance, for whatever reason.

alfonsojose
09-25-2005, 01:25 AM
Maybe they found out Hrbaty is going to play with the pink shirt tomorrow .. even the crowd will be against him :tape:

silverwhite
09-25-2005, 01:59 AM
Good luck to Argentina! :yeah: Gaston should take on the Hewitt mindset when playing Hrbaty.

jazz_girl
09-25-2005, 02:01 AM
Vamos Gastón!
Coria hasn't been playing well at all and he was very down this morning in an interview, so perhaps it was a good decision. However, I can't see anyone beating Hrbaty tomorrow :sad:

Corey Feldman
09-25-2005, 02:07 AM
finish it Hrbaty :yeah:

User id 7816
09-25-2005, 02:17 AM
whatever made them take this decision [maybe Coria has felt too much pressure in the first match...?...] I believe in Gaston and that he'll throw all he's got there....Vamos GASTON!!!

Caralimon
09-25-2005, 02:22 AM
Gaston almost beat Kafelnikov on carpet a few years ago in DC, so you never know. Anyway good luck, if you win, those horrendous loses in Malaga will be forgotten forever. If you don't, it doesn't matter. You already won the Roland Garros.

Vamooooos gatoooo.

jazz_girl
09-25-2005, 02:24 AM
Gaston almost beat Kafelnikov on carpet a few years ago in DC, so you never know. Anyway good luck, if you win, those horrendous loses in Malaga will be forgotten forever. If you don't, it doesn't matter. You already won the Roland Garros.

Vamooooos gatoooo.
:yeah:
Yeah, and if we lose in the SF, we'll always have next year with many possible local matches ;) Such as: Australia, Spain, USA, Slovakia, etc.

RogiFan88
09-25-2005, 03:04 AM
Didn't Coria win Basel on indoor carpet?

iliketennis
09-25-2005, 03:06 AM
This is a no-brainer. Gaston in straight sets, 6-0 6-0 6-0 :worship: HE CAN'T LOSE!

GAUDIO :woohoo: :inlove: :worship:

jole
09-25-2005, 03:09 AM
This will either be an absolutely pounding for Hrbaty, or a close as hell dramatic five setter.

Corey Feldman
09-25-2005, 03:11 AM
Didn't Coria win Basel on indoor carpet?
Yes.. although he had a walkover in the final when Nalbandian was injured

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 03:46 AM
There must be something seriously wrong with Coria for this decision to be made to replace him with Gaudio. I said before Hrbaty will destroy Coria in 3 sets, well the result will be the same, but the opponent different.

The possibility of Hrbaty getting nervous about what Slovakia could achieve might effect him, and well Gaston doesn't exactly like playing Hrbaty, but at the same time there is the Malaga situation and I just hope he doesn't get crucified if he wasn't able to win this match.

Denaon
09-25-2005, 03:52 AM
Good Luck GG.
Ditto, this final dream has ended anyway...GG :smooch: I'm pretty sure you'll give your best. However I'm not surprised with Luli's decision.

RogiFan88
09-25-2005, 03:56 AM
Yes.. although he had a walkover in the final when Nalbandian was injured

Yeah, lucky Guille, but he DID make the final on carpet. ;)

Let Gasti play -- no doubt sth's up w Guille -- perhaps one of his many old injuries playing up now -- did he say anything about not feeling 100% vs. Beck??

Scotso
09-25-2005, 03:57 AM
Vamos Hrbaty.

shotgun
09-25-2005, 04:04 AM
There must be something seriously wrong with Coria for this decision to be made to replace him with Gaudio. I said before Hrbaty will destroy Coria in 3 sets, well the result will be the same, but the opponent different.

The possibility of Hrbaty getting nervous about what Slovakia could achieve might effect him, and well Gaston doesn't exactly like playing Hrbaty, but at the same time there is the Malaga situation and I just hope he doesn't get crucified if he wasn't able to win this match.

Yeah, poor Gaudio. Maybe we´ll hear him again saying: "Yo al menos dé la cara a tapa" (i don´t know if that´s correct spanish)

This kind of decision reminds me of what Gaudio said this year in Dusseldorf. Maybe Coria doesn´t want to play, because he´s afraid of being considered the guilty one of Argentina losing the tie.

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 04:13 AM
Yeah, poor Gaudio. Maybe we´ll hear him again saying: "Yo al menos dé la cara a tapa" (i don´t know if that´s correct spanish)

This kind of decision reminds me of what Gaudio said this year in Dusseldorf. Maybe Coria doesn´t want to play, because he´s afraid of being considered the guilty one of Argentina losing the tie.

I do remember when he suffered one of the most criminal overrules I've seen against Kafelnikov in the DC tie in Russia. On Gaudio's match point Kaffe hits a ball that was out and it would have given Gaudio the match, then Jorge "I am blinder than Stevie Wonder" Dias overrules it in Kaffe's favour and then Gaudio lost it.

Well the thing is I could easily Gaudio as being the scapegoat and the fall guy, plus no doubt the Malaga stuff will be bought up again, then again if he wins, then his demons could be purged, but something like that won't be easily forgotten.

If he is get killed it will be interesting to see how many people turn on him.

hitchhiker
09-25-2005, 04:14 AM
Gaudio? there is dancing in the streets of slovakia as we speak.

iliketennis
09-25-2005, 04:24 AM
Gaudio? there is dancing in the streets of slovakia as we speak.

:rolleyes:

shotgun
09-25-2005, 04:45 AM
I do remember when he suffered one of the most criminal overrules I've seen against Kafelnikov in the DC tie in Russia. On Gaudio's match point Kaffe hits a ball that was out and it would have given Gaudio the match, then Jorge "I am blinder than Stevie Wonder" Dias overrules it in Kaffe's favour and then Gaudio lost it.

Well the thing is I could easily Gaudio as being the scapegoat and the fall guy, plus no doubt the Malaga stuff will be bought up again, then again if he wins, then his demons could be purged, but something like that won't be easily forgotten.

If he is get killed it will be interesting to see how many people turn on him.

Even if he loses tomorrow, I don´t think it´s going to happen the same that happened when he lost in Malaga. This time nobody expects him to win, he didn´t lose the first rubber (Coria did), and it´s not the 5th and decisive rubber. I mean, of course, if he loses, it will be all over, but then again, the expectations in Argentina are not as high as they were before Malaga´s 5th rubber, mainly because of the way the argentine team had reacted in that tie.

NYCtennisfan
09-25-2005, 04:50 AM
If Coria is not injured then some really interesting dynamics are brought into play. Who knows? Maybe Gauido will surprise everyone or Hrbaty wil have a really bad match?

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 04:52 AM
Even if he loses tomorrow, I don´t think it´s going to happen the same that happened when he lost in Malaga. This time nobody expects him to win, he didn´t lose the first rubber (Coria did), and it´s not the 5th and decisive rubber. I mean, of course, if he loses, it will be all over, but then again, the expectations in Argentina are not as high as they were before Malaga´s 5th rubber, mainly because of the way the argentine team had reacted in that tie.

Then again in Malaga it was deemed to be a reserve team and they got it to a 5th match, but somehow I see that the fact Gaudio is playing in this match is either a brave decision or something else entirely, if the Argentines won the doubles, very doubtful that Gaudio plays the 4th match.

shotgun
09-25-2005, 05:00 AM
This decision can have 3 types of explanations

- Coria is injured.
- Coria is lacking confidence because he lost against Beck, and doesn´t want to play.
- Mancini took the decision as some kind of bet, as he did with Puerta in Australia.

iliketennis
09-25-2005, 05:01 AM
Then again in Malaga it was deemed to be a reserve team and they got it to a 5th match, but somehow I see that the fact Gaudio is playing in this match is either a brave decision or something else entirely, if the Argentines won the doubles, very doubtful that Gaudio plays the 4th match.

Amen sister.

NyGeL
09-25-2005, 05:10 AM
This decision can have 3 types of explanations

- Coria is injured.
- Coria is lacking confidence because he lost against Beck, and doesn´t want to play.
- Mancini took the decision as some kind of bet, as he did with Puerta in Australia.

officialy, it is the first option. But I think that the 2nd have a lot of influence.

oneandonlyhsn
09-25-2005, 05:14 AM
I just hope Guille is not injured, vamos Gaston

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 05:14 AM
This decision can have 3 types of explanations

- Coria is injured.
- Coria is lacking confidence because he lost against Beck, and doesn´t want to play.
- Mancini took the decision as some kind of bet, as he did with Puerta in Australia.

Maybe a combo of the 3.

Caralimon
09-25-2005, 05:40 AM
The most important sports newspaper wrote that Mancini has dismissed the chance of an alternative name instead of Coria.

LaTenista
09-25-2005, 07:16 AM
I thought perhaps they'd use Puerta instead, but Puerta doesn't really have an indoor record, does he?

Sad but true. Wonder what's going on with Coria. I was really hoping for an Argentina-Russia final, if neither made it I'll be gutted.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-25-2005, 07:46 AM
Good luck to him but can he beat Dominik? :scared:

tennyfan
09-25-2005, 08:00 AM
Here's a Spanish article about the decision. Using a quick babelfish translation, it sounds like Coria is injured. Even if it's something minor (I think his leg has been nagging him since Umag), I think it's a good decision for Mancini to play Gaudio who is feeling 100% and therefore has a higher confidence level which will be needed to beat Hrbaty. It's even possible Mancini saw this coming and that's why he added another singles player to the roster as a back up. Here's the link and the Spanish version of the article below.

http://www.tycsports.com.ar/


Mancini decidió que Gastón Gaudio juegue por Guillermo Coria, lesionado. De esta manera el Gato será el encargado de intentar igualar la eliminatoria ante Hrbaty. En segundo turno, David Nalbandian enfrentará a Karol Beck. Televisará TyC Sports, en directo, desde las 9.30.
Complicado. Así quedó el panorama del equipo capitaneado por Mancini tras la caída en el dobles. El punto del sábado puso arriba a los eslovacos y obliga a los singlistas nacionales a ganar sus partidos para meter a Argentina en la final de la Davis.

La gran novedad de cara a los choques de este domingo es que Gastón Gaudio reemplazará a Guillermo Coria en el duelo, del primer turno, ante Dominik Hrbaty. Si bien no se dieron a conocer las razones de la modificación, según trascendió sería obligada por una molestia física acusada por el santafesino.

De esta manera, el Gato volverá a jugar una serie de Copa Davis tras dos años de ausencia. Su última participación, con tristísimo desempeño, fue en la semifinal de 2003 ante España, en Málaga. En esa ocasión, Gaudio perdió ante Carlos Moyá y Juan Carlos Ferrero, ambos partidos en sets corridos y consiguiendo entre ambos sólo 11 games. Sin embargo, pese este último mal recuerdo, el argentino tiene un record positivo en esta competencia: ganó 13 partidos y perdió 3, pero con la salvedad que todas sus victorias fueron sobre superficie lenta.

Luego de este choque el que se presentará será David Nalbandian, clave en el primer día de la serie, para jugar ante el sorprendente Karol Beck. Esto, siempre y cuando Gaudio venza a Hrbaty e iguale el match, ya que en caso de que la eliminatoria quede decidida tras el primer punto del domingo, sería Mariano Puerta el singlista argentino.

En caso de ganar la serie semifinal será la segunda vez en la historia en la que Argentina acceda a una final de Davis. La anterior fue hace 24 años, en 1981, ocasión en la que se cayó ante Estados Unidos.

tennyfan
09-25-2005, 08:21 AM
Hmmm. Now this article from Sept. 25 makes it seem like Coria will play. If Coria is even slightly injured (physically or mentally), then I think it's the wrong decision to play him. But if I'm reading the rough translation correctly, it sounds like Puerta hasn't been practicing singles much this week and Gaudio was concerned about his 1-4 record against Hrbaty. Babelfish gives me a head ache. Can anyone confirm?

Spanish article found here:

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pagina.jsp?pagId=1058945

Babelfish excerpt:

Friday, there was some possibility that in the electronic board, underneath Hrbaty, he appeared another Argentinean who not outside Coria? Zero. Mancini confirmed in its place the same Friday, clarifying that the latest that seted out was to sin of resultadismo, that put to that considered with better possibilities at every moment, and that could not clear to the santafesino the possibility to him of revancha. In addition, Gastón Gaudio confessed in several occasions its misfortune when facing Hrbaty, by the type of fast game that proposes to him (Topo has 4-1 to the Cat). Door (Puerta)? It is not his better surface and it almost did not practice singles in the week. He will be the Magician, then, who tries to settle down the tie so that Argentina breaks the bad gust of wind of the semifinals

Truc
09-25-2005, 08:49 AM
If he is get killed it will be interesting to see how many people turn on him.
I dont' think so, it's pretty obvious by reading this thread: nobody really expects Gaudio to beat Hrbaty, he has nothing to lose, Coria will be the guilty one anyway.

jazz_girl
09-25-2005, 12:33 PM
Coria will be the one who's gonna play, it's official now.

fabolous
09-25-2005, 01:04 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused: so what is this now??? argies using all psychological tricks to confuse their opponents? it won't help anyway, cuz no matter who plays hrbaty, he'll lose in 3, maybe 4 sets.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 01:05 PM
Yep...my scoreboard says G. Coria vs. D. Hrbaty.

jazz_girl
09-25-2005, 01:05 PM
I don't know who started this rumor, but Coria was always confirmed by the captain, and gaudio was never on his head. In fact Guillermo trained a lot in the court after the doubles. So the press was wrong...

User id 7816
09-25-2005, 01:06 PM
ugh?...maybe we should all be waiting till 10 mins before the macthes then, before we say who will be playing. got too many people confused!

fini
09-25-2005, 01:06 PM
Vamos Gaston!Vamos Argentina!!!

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 01:13 PM
Good that Gaston isn't playing, as now he won't get crucified if Argentina go onto lose this tie, anyway this is over now it's up to Coria to step it up in this match.

User id 7816
09-25-2005, 01:18 PM
Gaston wouldnt have been crucified by people who know how things are anyway, only by someones who think the argentines were 100% sure to win this tie or something? these "crusifiction" apprehensions are kinda stupid

*Ljubica*
09-25-2005, 01:21 PM
Gaston wouldnt have been crucified by people who know how things are anyway, only by someones who think the argentines were 100% sure to win this tie or something? these "crusifiction" apprehensions are kinda stupid

Sadly the Argentine media were way too confident ahead of this tie - and he would have been crucified :sad: I am very pleased he hasn't been put in that position.

Galaxystorm
09-25-2005, 01:22 PM
Who's playing Gaudio or Coria ??

DC site says Coria is playing .

User id 7816
09-25-2005, 01:30 PM
finally lets hope they took the right decision, as Coria seems to be ready from the beginning atleast.

Denaon
09-25-2005, 01:31 PM
finally lets hope they took the right decision, as Coria seems to be ready from the beginning atleast.
Guys, Coria's already playing :yeah:

Black Adam
09-25-2005, 01:32 PM
Coria has already won twice against Hrbatty and lost twice through Retirement( that' what I heard) so I am confident Argentina will pull through this one with Nalby clinching the 5th rubber.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 01:33 PM
Let's hope. Coria is up a break against Hrbaty right now as I type this.

Corey Feldman
09-25-2005, 02:16 PM
Hrbaty 7-6 first set after being a break down twice
cmon Slovak! :bounce:

mangoes
09-25-2005, 02:27 PM
Coria needs to pull it together and take care of business. He is the better player.

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 02:30 PM
Coria has already won twice against Hrbatty and lost twice through Retirement( that' what I heard) so I am confident Argentina will pull through this one with Nalby clinching the 5th rubber.

Haas beats Hrbaty, but Hrbaty beat him last year in the DC, the same thing could easily happen here.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 02:33 PM
Yeah, and Hrbaty went up a break in the second. Coria has lost steam and confidence.

Action Jackson
09-25-2005, 02:46 PM
Well I said before the tie I couldn't see Hrbaty losing to Coria and definitely not losing to Gaudio, so the doubles result will prove even more vital in this case. It will be interesting to see what the press will say after this match.

Corey Feldman
09-25-2005, 02:47 PM
Hrbaty 7-6 6-2 :bounce:

*Ljubica*
09-25-2005, 02:48 PM
He has been losing confidence for a while now. As I said earlier on Gaston's Forum - I am not a fan of Coria at all - but the guy obviously has some serious emotional/mental/psychological issues at the moment and even I feel a bit sorry for him. His head is in a mess right now and his confidence is zero. I'm not a psychologist and I don't know the reasons - could be personal/family problems or a delayed reaction to losing RG 2004, or maybe something as simple as needing a new coach? But I do hope the Argentine Press don't give him a hard time like they gave to Gaudio in 2003, because I think he will give himself a hard enough time without their help.

mangoes
09-25-2005, 03:07 PM
Why didn't gaston play? This is rediculous from Coria.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 03:09 PM
Why didn't gaston play? This is rediculous from Coria.

At least Gaudio would have played the match.

Peoples
09-25-2005, 03:14 PM
Coria needs to pull it together and take care of business. He is the better player.
Hrbaty is the better player, Coria is the better legs.

sigmagirl91
09-25-2005, 03:14 PM
Hrbaty is the better player, Coria is the better legs.

But those legs aren't doing much today, are they? ;)

gooner88
09-25-2005, 03:16 PM
Hrbaty is the better player, Coria is the better legs.

Today Hrbaty is the better player. Well done Hrbaty and Slovakia.
Coria is 8th and Hrbaty is 19th for a reason.

Peoples
09-25-2005, 03:20 PM
Coria is 8th and Hrbaty is 19th for a reason.
Yeah, a certain kind of juice ;)

Well done Hrbaty.

Raquel
09-25-2005, 11:46 PM
He has been losing confidence for a while now. As I said earlier on Gaston's Forum - I am not a fan of Coria at all - but the guy obviously has some serious emotional/mental/psychological issues at the moment and even I feel a bit sorry for him. His head is in a mess right now and his confidence is zero. I'm not a psychologist and I don't know the reasons - could be personal/family problems or a delayed reaction to losing RG 2004, or maybe something as simple as needing a new coach?
I didn't realise things were that bad for Coria. I know he's had controversy on and off the court but I have huge respect for his game and tactical mind on court. I really hope he can sort himself out because it sounds quite serious now.