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2006 predictions for the young hopefuls...

evanzo
09-24-2005, 11:09 PM
Make you 2006 end of year ranking predictions for the following players


Andy Murray

Novak Djokovic

Gael Monfils



It will be interesting to come back to this thread and see who was on the money. Here are mine

Murray , ranking between 10-15

Djokovic, ranking between 70-80

Monfils, ranking between 40-50

+alonso
09-24-2005, 11:13 PM
Nah! I think Djovokic will be higher than that ;) He's very good

vincayou
09-24-2005, 11:17 PM
It will be interesting to come back to this thread and see who was on the money. Here are mine

Murray , ranking between 10-15

Djokovic, ranking between 70-80

Monfils, ranking between 40-50

Monfils and Djokovic are already ranked where you put them for the end of next year. I seriously doubt that none of them will improve...

Chloe le Bopper
09-24-2005, 11:18 PM
So out of the three, you think that only Murray will show any improvement whatsoever? :confused:

Sjengster
09-24-2005, 11:19 PM
Well, naturally. To borrow a phrase from dreaded Eurosport commentator Simon Reed, he is a bonnie wee fighter.

kundalini
09-24-2005, 11:23 PM
Djokovic 23

Murray 24

Monfils 33

aj_m2009
09-24-2005, 11:40 PM
Why does this here not make sense:

...Murray , ranking between 10-15

Djokovic, ranking between 70-80...

I definitely think Novak will be the highest out of the 3, say top 20 or higher maybe, I think Monfils will be around the same area, I say Murray will be around 30-40 area.

bad gambler
09-24-2005, 11:42 PM
Murray 2
Djokovic 3
Monfils 4

evanzo
09-24-2005, 11:44 PM
I'm saying Djokovic will stay largely where he is, Monfils will make a solid improvement and Murray will continue to rocket up the rankings.

Chloe le Bopper
09-24-2005, 11:51 PM
I'm saying Djokovic will stay largely where he is, Monfils will make a solid improvement and Murray will continue to rocket up the rankings.
Monfils will make a solid improvement by not moving in the rankings at all?

Merton
09-24-2005, 11:51 PM
Make you 2006 end of year ranking predictions for the following players


Andy Murray

Novak Djokovic

Gael Monfils



It will be interesting to come back to this thread and see who was on the money. Here are mine

Murray , ranking between 10-15

Djokovic, ranking between 70-80

Monfils, ranking between 40-50

Why provide a range for your predictions? Optimism is cheap, so

Murray 1
Djokovic 82
Monfils 47

+alonso
09-24-2005, 11:56 PM
Hmm
In my logical order
1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Monfils
But I'm 100% with aj_m2009 ;) Djokovic would be one of the best and very soon ;)
I THINK!! Monfils has to work in his nerves ;)

evanzo
09-25-2005, 12:05 AM
Djokovic is so devoid of talent I don't know why he is so popular on MTF, all the pundits are giving Murray the plaudits and the more they see him play the more optimistic their projections for his career. All I see in Djokovic is the potential for him to be a solid journeyman, his game is so unimaginative and forced that he is no different than the hundreds of other tennis factory kids. Murray is the only one that I can see that has the intangibles, the X-factor, call it what you will. The genetic offal of MTF clearly only appreciate greatness when it is in full bloom, and not whilst it is in growth. If you look at what some people here said about Federer before he broke through it is clear the average MFT denizen can't spot ability for shit.

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:11 AM
I'm still waiting for enanzo to appreciate the magnititude of his/her Monfils error, but it looks like I will be waiting for a while.

PaulieM
09-25-2005, 12:17 AM
each will win a slam next year

evanzo
09-25-2005, 12:23 AM
I'm still waiting for enanzo to appreciate the magnititude of his/her Monfils error, but it looks like I will be waiting for a while.



What error, his ranking for this year will level out with him being around 60ish, I expect him to end next year in the mind 40's a very significant percentile ranking improvement.

Leo
09-25-2005, 12:27 AM
Djokovic is so devoid of talent I don't know why he is so popular on MTF, all the pundits are giving Murray the plaudits and the more they see him play the more optimistic their projections for his career. All I see in Djokovic is the potential for him to be a solid journeyman, his game is so unimaginative and forced that he is no different than the hundreds of other tennis factory kids. Murray is the only one that I can see that has the intangibles, the X-factor, call it what you will. The genetic offal of MTF clearly only appreciate greatness when it is in full bloom, and not whilst it is in growth. If you look at what some people here said about Federer before he broke through it is clear the average MFT denizen can't spot ability for shit.

Not so sure how to respond. :confused: These comments are based on absolutely nothing.

I keep wanting to like Murray and then I read posts like these by his obsessive fans.

Back to the point of the thread... oh how I suck with long-term predictions. I have absolutely no clue where they will be ranked at the end of 2006 but I think Monfils will be the highest and will have the most solid year of the three.

Leo
09-25-2005, 12:28 AM
each will win a slam next year

2 for Novak.

PaulieM
09-25-2005, 12:30 AM
2 for Novak.
sure why not

delsa
09-25-2005, 12:30 AM
each will win a slam next year
:retard: When i read that i know i must go to bed...I don't see things clearly anymore...:lol:

revolution
09-25-2005, 12:31 AM
Djokovic 38
Murray 42
Monfils 44

How about some more? (includes other members of GWH's two groups)

Wawrinka 28
Del Potro 112
Baghdatis 51
Gasquet 8
Verdasco 26
Cilic 105

revolution
09-25-2005, 12:32 AM
Not so sure how to respond. :confused: These comments are based on absolutely nothing.

I keep wanting to like Murray and then I read posts like these by his obsessive fans.

Back to the point of the thread... oh how I suck with long-term predictions. I have absolutely no clue where they will be ranked at the end of 2006 but I think Monfils will be the highest and will have the most solid year of the three.

Don't let an opinion of a player's fan make you decide whether you like that player or not.

ezekiel
09-25-2005, 12:32 AM
I see one being in 10-20, the other in 20-30 and the third in 30-40 range. I don't know which one

I hear that Murray is a great talent, can you tell me more about him and his game?

revolution
09-25-2005, 12:35 AM
I see one being in 10-20, the other in 20-30 and the third in 30-40 range. I don't know which one

I hear that Murray is a great talent, can you tell me more about him and his game?

Grinding player with a great forehand, decent serve and good court speed, and he possesses some fine shots in his arsenal. His game is similar to Lleyton's, except not as annoying, and no c'mons.

His back-of-the-court style of play suits the clay courts, and he drop shots well, but Wawrinka played an awesome match on Friday.

PaulieM
09-25-2005, 12:36 AM
:retard: When i read that i know i must go to bed...I don't see things clearly anymore...:lol:
what you don't think that's a realistic prediction? :confused: ;)

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:36 AM
2 for Novak.
:hearts:

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:39 AM
What error, his ranking for this year will level out with him being around 60ish, I expect him to end next year in the mind 40's a very significant percentile ranking improvement.
Er, why is his ranking going to drop 15 places when he only has a QF in Metz and a second round in Paris to defend? :confused:

evanzo
09-25-2005, 12:41 AM
Er, why is his ranking going to drop 15 places when he only has a QF in Metz and a second round in Paris to defend? :confused:



Because of other players performing well.

Leo
09-25-2005, 12:44 AM
Don't let an opinion of a player's fan make you decide whether you like that player or not.

All the talk about him is ridiculous and as far as I see it, his game isn't good enough for the Top 10. I tend to find it difficult to support overhyped players.

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:44 AM
Djokovic is so devoid of talent I don't know why he is so popular on MTF, all the pundits are giving Murray the plaudits and the more they see him play the more optimistic their projections for his career. All I see in Djokovic is the potential for him to be a solid journeyman, his game is so unimaginative and forced that he is no different than the hundreds of other tennis factory kids. Murray is the only one that I can see that has the intangibles, the X-factor, call it what you will. The genetic offal of MTF clearly only appreciate greatness when it is in full bloom, and not whilst it is in growth. If you look at what some people here said about Federer before he broke through it is clear the average MFT denizen can't spot ability for shit.


All this from somebody who clearly has no understanding whatsoever of the ATP ranking system :D

revolution
09-25-2005, 12:45 AM
Unfortunately, evanzo only watches during Wimby, hence the reason he doesn't rate Djoko or Monfils.

evanzo
09-25-2005, 12:51 AM
Umm I watch all the slams and all of the MS, and a few of the smaller tournaments too.

Chloe, it is you who does not understand the ranking system and how EOY rankings almost inevitably drop for players ranking in the midzone between the upper echelons and those in 3 figure rankingsvile. To atone for your rudeness and stupidty please set yourself on fire as soon as convenient.

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:52 AM
Because of other players performing well.

Monfils has about 170 points on the current number 60. So you mean to tell me that the 15 players ranked between 46 and 60 are going to make those points up in the next two months, dropping Monfils down to 60? (ignoring the points that all of these players may be defending, of course)

Okay, you win. Here is your dunce cap. Where it with pride.

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:53 AM
Unfortunately, evanzo only watches during Wimby, hence the reason he doesn't rate Djoko or Monfils.
Anybody watching Wimbledon should be rating Djokovic higher than that. I'm sure that Grosjean is ;)

Chloe le Bopper
09-25-2005, 12:54 AM
Umm I watch all the slams and all of the MS, and a few of the smaller tournaments too.

Chloe, it is you who does not understand the ranking system and how EOY rankings almost inevitably drop for players ranking in the midzone between the upper echelons and those in 3 figure rankingsvile. To atone for your rudeness and stupidty please set yourself on fire as soon as convenient.
Your comments on Monfils ranking have made no sense whatsoever. Don't let that continue from embarassing yourself on the matter, though ;)

Leo
09-25-2005, 12:57 AM
To atone for your rudeness and stupidty please set yourself on fire as soon as convenient.

As illogical as you are with tennis, this is actually quite a funny reply and I may have to use it in the future on those I dislike.

Merton
09-25-2005, 12:59 AM
Predicting year-end ranking for young, improving players is a futile exercise because there are many intangibles. For example, will they stay injury free? How helpful is their support team? How strong are they mentally? Just a case in point, nobody at the end of last year would predict how Nadal and Gasquet would evolve. Gasquet was totally out of the map, everybody was talking about Monfils. Nadal was in the low 50s.

Merton
09-25-2005, 01:02 AM
Anybody watching Wimbledon should be rating Djokovic higher than that. I'm sure that Grosjean is ;)

First round A.O., Seb draws Novak. I am sure he would be celebrating his good luck :devil:

mishar
09-25-2005, 02:10 AM
Gosh, I had never heard of Novak before I saw him play in person at this year's US Open. I was astonished at his talent. You can tell just watching him that he is a beautiful ball striker -- I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the top 20 by the end of next year.

its.like.that
09-25-2005, 02:15 AM
Make you 2006 end of year ranking predictions for the following players


Andy Murray

Novak Djokovic

Gael Monfils



It will be interesting to come back to this thread and see who was on the money. Here are mine

Murray , ranking between 10-15

Djokovic, ranking between 70-80

Monfils, ranking between 40-50

woah man, this shit is so leftfield.

Phunkadelicious
09-25-2005, 02:33 AM
Murray- 35
Monfils- 20
Djokovic- 11

Out of the three I don't think that Murray will ever crack the top 10. Monfils I see maybe breaking into the top 3 very briefly and winning a couple of slams and Djokovic I think will prove to surprise a lot of people and be a top 5 player for most of his career

savesthedizzle
09-25-2005, 02:39 AM
If Novak is a top 15 player next year I will eat my shoe. I don't think he'll move up quite that high.

Although I would have made a similar statement about Nadal last year. I would have probably said something like "I will stab myself with a blunt pencil if Nadal is #2 next year." and I would have been wrong, so I will never say never.

I see Novak maybe around 30, Monfils between 20-25 and Murray somewhere around 40.

Phunkadelicious
09-25-2005, 02:42 AM
the one big question mark i have on all three of them is their respective fitness levels. if memory serves me correctly, they all had some on court physical breakdowns recently...
of course, they are all still developing physically, Muray more so than the other two

savesthedizzle
09-25-2005, 02:43 AM
the one big question mark i have on all three of them is their respective fitness levels. if memory serves me correctly, they all had some on court physical breakdowns recently...
of course, they are all still developing physically, Muray more so than the other two

Novak is having surgery this offseason to correct his breathing problem, so I hope that helps him with some of his woes.

Phunkadelicious
09-25-2005, 02:46 AM
Novak is having surgery this offseason to correct his breathing problem, so I hope that helps him with some of his woes.

I am sure Monfils is happy to hear that :devil:

savesthedizzle
09-25-2005, 02:47 AM
I am sure Monfils is happy to hear that :devil:


I'm sure Coria's not :angel:

Phunkadelicious
09-25-2005, 02:48 AM
What about Berdych, is he the real deal? he just looks so streaky to me and mentally fragile to me

vincayou
09-25-2005, 09:07 AM
Monfils has about 170 points on the current number 60. So you mean to tell me that the 15 players ranked between 46 and 60 are going to make those points up in the next two months, dropping Monfils down to 60? (ignoring the points that all of these players may be defending, of course)

Okay, you win. Here is your dunce cap. Where it with pride.

Not to mention that the end of year is rather adapted to Monfils's game surface wise.

vincayou
09-25-2005, 09:10 AM
Novak is having surgery this offseason to correct his breathing problem, so I hope that helps him with some of his woes.

Surgery for breathing problem? :eek:
I'm not a doctor, but it sounds strange to me, can you elaborate please?

sampaio
09-25-2005, 10:44 AM
Gasquet 2
Nadal 4
Berdych 12
Verdasco 16
Monfils 22
Djokovic 25
Murray 42

LuckyAC
09-25-2005, 11:00 AM
Nadal 2
Gasquet 6
Monfils 25
Djokovic 40
Wawrinka 45
Murray 75

ClaycourtaZzZz.
09-25-2005, 11:08 AM
You can't predict any ranking, only no.1... Federer, for sure.

vincayou
09-25-2005, 11:32 AM
Nadal 2,
Gasquet 5
Berdych 12
Monfils 15
Djokovic 25
Murray 32

*Ljubica*
09-25-2005, 12:23 PM
Murray , ranking between 40 - 50

Djokovic, ranking between 20 - 30

Monfils, ranking between 20 - 30

I personally feel Murray will have problems next season. Yes he's a talented player with obvious potential, but his dismal performace against Wawrinka in the DC this weekend, shows he still has a lot to learn. Once other players get to know a little more about him and his game and know how best to play against him - I think he'll struggle more than some people seem to think. Though ending the year between 40-50 at his age would still be a good result and allow him to move steadily up the rankings in future years as his game and his body mature.

evanzo
09-25-2005, 02:18 PM
Murray , ranking between 40 - 50

Djokovic, ranking between 20 - 30

Monfils, ranking between 20 - 30

I personally feel Murray will have problems next season. Yes he's a talented player with obvious potential, but his dismal performace against Wawrinka in the DC this weekend, shows he still has a lot to learn. Once other players get to know a little more about him and his game and know how best to play against him - I think he'll struggle more than some people seem to think. Though ending the year between 40-50 at his age would still be a good result and allow him to move steadily up the rankings in future years as his game and his body mature.




One bad result and you write him off? It was not a 'dismal' performance against Wawrinka, it was a 'poor' performance. Murray won nearly as many points in the match and had lots more BP opportunities, he just didn't convert.

Horatio Caine
09-25-2005, 02:26 PM
All of them top 50 but not much better than that.

evanzo
09-25-2005, 03:16 PM
There is very good reason Murray will be very tough to beat once he matures, he's on the move to track down a ball or set up a shot on average about 25% sooner than the best guys on tour.

*Ljubica*
09-25-2005, 03:33 PM
One bad result and you write him off? It was not a 'dismal' performance against Wawrinka, it was a 'poor' performance. Murray won nearly as many points in the match and had lots more BP opportunities, he just didn't convert.

I haven't "written him off" - in my post I clearly stated he is a talented player who will do will in the future - I just don't believe he will rise to the top that quickly, that's all. In fact - if you listened to his coach Mark Petchey talking on Sky TV yesterday - he said much the same thing - that Andy needs at least a couple of years to grow in physical strength and mature both physically and mentally before he can be a real contender. And as for the Wawrinka match - isn't converting your break points what makes you a winner? I have a right to my opinions same as you have, and my opinion of that match is that his performace was "pretty dismal" - I've watched Murray a lot - including being live on Centre Court for the Nalbandian match this year - and I have yet to be convinced he is the star of 2006.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
09-25-2005, 05:11 PM
Why are you on this board?

:retard:

JMG
09-25-2005, 05:28 PM
Djokovic 42
Monfils 48
Murray 57