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Federer's racquet bid at 20,000

PamV
09-19-2005, 01:53 PM
Check out all the different items from players at the USOpen that are up for auction to benefit Katrina relief.

Federer's racquet is going for $20,000 while Agassi's is going for $10,000 !

http://www.tenniskatrina.com/

PamV
09-19-2005, 04:43 PM
Doesn't fact that Federer's racquet getting twice as much as Agassi tell us that maybe the big crowds were there to see Federer more than Agassi? I noticed that all of Federer's night matches were packed.

I'd bid on Federer's shorts if those were up for grabs.

1sun
09-19-2005, 05:00 PM
if they were to see federer then he would have had alot more support in the final

R.Federer
09-19-2005, 05:30 PM
Sports museum might be ones bidding on such things. In that case, they want to display U.S.O 2005 Champion racket, not so much who it is belong to.

Or it could be a rich person in Europa where Roge is more popular or equal popular as andre, compared to U.S

PaulieM
09-19-2005, 05:31 PM
I'd bid on Federer's shorts if those were up for grabs.
me too!! :)

tangerine_dream
09-19-2005, 05:43 PM
Doesn't fact that Federer's racquet getting twice as much as Agassi tell us that maybe the big crowds were there to see Federer more than Agassi?
:lol: So the real reasoning behind your post comes out.

I don't know why the some people here are so threatened by the fact that Agassi is beloved by so many people, especially in his own country. :scratch: Perhaps in their greedy mind that's just one more thing Roger doesn't have. Hearing the fans screaming "Andre, Andre!" is something even Roger expected. I don't know why this would bother you so much.

Anyhoo, my guess as to why Roger's racket is going for a good buck might have something to do with the fact that a) he's already a young legend, and 2) he won back-to-back USO titles.

nobama
09-19-2005, 05:56 PM
Is that the only reason you posted this thread here - because Roger's racquet sold for more than Andre's? :rolleyes: Maybe it sold for more because he actually won the US Open and these were racquets they used during the finals? :shrug:

wcr
09-19-2005, 05:58 PM
Maybe Gavin Rossdale is buying it. Or maybe Gwen is buying it for Gavin.

Stevens Point
09-19-2005, 05:58 PM
SOLD for US $25,665.65!! :eek:

wcr
09-19-2005, 06:04 PM
Doesn't fact that Federer's racquet getting twice as much as Agassi tell us that maybe the big crowds were there to see Federer more than Agassi? I noticed that all of Federer's night matches were packed.

I'd bid on Federer's shorts if those were up for grabs.

I don't know about Roger having as many fans in the stands as Agassi did during their final match. He did have plenty of fans during his other matches (especially at night when I watched them) in the earlier rounds.

I think the NY crowd appreciated the Fed/Agassi match. They seemed very enthusiastic and fair. Really, how do you root against Federer anyway? It's not like watching Michael Stich who played a final there in a rotten mood and managed to get in anti-American digs while he was at it. Pulled the same stunt (ridiculing Americans) during his UCLA final match one year. A real charmer that Stich.

Chloe le Bopper
09-19-2005, 07:06 PM
4000 for shoes :scared:

I would have bid on Coria's shirt if i had money :p

Adman
09-19-2005, 07:11 PM
I think that the Agassi racket was the one that I would buy I think that Andre is a great player and sportsman.

Doris Loeffel
09-19-2005, 07:54 PM
Hmmm nice amount - there's just one thing I don't understand with this bid - (I never joined one tht's maybe why ;) why do bidders top their own bids?

R.Federer
09-19-2005, 07:59 PM
Hmmm nice amount - there's just one thing I don't understand with this bid - (I never joined one tht's maybe why ;) why do bidders top their own bids?

In auction theory this is known as the Winner's Curse- the fact that if you think Good Y is worth $X, then it is in your interest to bid as close to $X as possible but shaded slightly lower, to maximize your profits. But if this is a public good (a good with publicly recognized value) then everyone wants to get there. Ultimately, the winner buys it at $X minus perhaps an infinetisemally small amount, and is cursed with zero $ profit

wipeout
09-19-2005, 10:42 PM
Hmmm nice amount - there's just one thing I don't understand with this bid - (I never joined one tht's maybe why ;) why do bidders top their own bids?

Maybe the rich are insecure? :D

wowfed
09-19-2005, 11:02 PM
me too!! :)
LMAO .. Are you targetting his shorts or his undie?

PamV
09-19-2005, 11:27 PM
Sports museum might be ones bidding on such things. In that case, they want to display U.S.O 2005 Champion racket, not so much who it is belong to.

Or it could be a rich person in Europa where Roge is more popular or equal popular as andre, compared to U.S

There is a new championship racket every year. I think someone wants a piece of Federer history. Why is it so hard to believe they are buying because of who it belongs to?

PamV
09-19-2005, 11:29 PM
if they were to see federer then he would have had alot more support in the final

I think he was pretty popular. The stands were packed for his night match against Santoro. During the final people naturally wanted to see a close match, but there was plenty of cheering for both guys.

Besides that.....whomever is bidding on the racket didn't necessarily attend the match in person. Federer has fans all over the world, appart from those able to attend the USOpen.

PaulieM
09-19-2005, 11:29 PM
LMAO .. Are you targetting his shorts or his undie?
:lol: umm no comment :angel:

PamV
09-19-2005, 11:32 PM
Or it could be a rich person in Europa where Roge is more popular or equal popular as andre, compared to U.S

Why do you assume Federer doesn't have any rich fans within the US? I noticed Tony Bennett there watching during two of his matches. Other celebrities are Fed fans as well.

PamV
09-19-2005, 11:43 PM
:lol: So the real reasoning behind your post comes out.

I don't know why the some people here are so threatened by the fact that Agassi is beloved by so many people, especially in his own country. :scratch: Perhaps in their greedy mind that's just one more thing Roger doesn't have. Hearing the fans screaming "Andre, Andre!" is something even Roger expected. I don't know why this would bother you so much.

Anyhoo, my guess as to why Roger's racket is going for a good buck might have something to do with the fact that a) he's already a young legend, and 2) he won back-to-back USO titles.

I think some where in one of the threads a person suggested that the only reason attendance was up in the final was because Agassi was in the final......as if it had nothing to do with Federer. In fact, attendance was up for all the matches through the entire tournament. Roger's night match with Santoro was packed for example. I am not trying to put down Agassi. I am just tired of people trying to say that no one cares about Federer because he's not American. That doesn't make sense. People like to see a legend whether it be Agassi or Federer. Currently I think there is more interest in Federer because people are curious how far he is going to go. They wonder just how good he really is, and what is he going to do next.

It seems odd of you to say that I would be jealous of Agassi being loved. Federer is certainly loved all over the world and in the US, as well.

R.Federer
09-19-2005, 11:47 PM
Why do you assume Federer doesn't have any rich fans within the US? I noticed Tony Bennett there watching during two of his matches. Other celebrities are Fed fans as well.
Because both have rich fans in the U.S., Roge as well as andre. we know andre has plenty hollywood connections. But we are speculating about the reasons that Roge's tennis racket is going for 2x as much as andre's, and I think a reasonable explanation is that: who doesn't want the U.S.O. champion's tennis racket?

Again, you can be a Roge fan and also recognize that there are legions of fans of andre, from 20 years ago onwards.

PamV
09-20-2005, 12:01 AM
Because both have rich fans in the U.S., Roge as well as andre. we know andre has plenty hollywood connections. But we are speculating about the reasons that Roge's tennis racket is going for 2x as much as andre's, and I think a reasonable explanation is that: who doesn't want the U.S.O. champion's tennis racket?

Again, you can be a Roge fan and also recognize that there are legions of fans of andre, from 20 years ago onwards.

Of course.......in fact I am a fan of both Roger and Andre. What makes you think I don't like Andre?

OK....wait. I think I see what you mean about the racket. If Andre had won the tournament, I concede that they would have been getting higher bids for his racket. But that would be a combination of who the person is and the fact that he won with the racket. That's the same thing that is happening with Federer's racket......it's about who he is and the fact that it was the championship racket. If for example Hewitt, Malisse or Hrbaty won the USOpen this year the racket woud not have sold for as much because they aren't seen as lengendary players. Both Agassi and Federer are seen as legendary players.

R.Federer
09-20-2005, 12:23 AM
Of course.......in fact I am a fan of both Roger and Andre. What makes you think I don't like Andre?

OK....wait. I think I see what you mean about the racket. If Andre had won the tournament, I concede that they would have been getting higher bids for his racket. But that would be a combination of who the person is and the fact that he won with the racket. That's the same thing that is happening with Federer's racket......it's about who he is and the fact that it was the championship racket. If for example Hewitt, Malisse or Hrbaty won the USOpen this year the racket woud not have sold for as much because they aren't seen as lengendary players. Both Agassi and Federer are seen as legendary players.

No, I only said it "could be" a person from Europe. And I did not speculate whether you are a fan of andre or not (where do you infer all this from?). And I dont know if leyton things are selling or not because there was no hurricane auction then. Also, this is exactly what I say above: that Roge's racket is selling more because he is the U.S.O champion. Who does not want that of his? If andre were the U.S.O champion I imagine his would sell more. That is very plausible, what is the problem for me to say it

its.like.that
09-20-2005, 01:05 AM
Roddick bought Federer's racquet - I mean hey, he's got to try something new.

:shrug:

PamV
09-20-2005, 02:36 AM
No, I only said it "could be" a person from Europe. And I did not speculate whether you are a fan of andre or not (where do you infer all this from?). And I dont know if leyton things are selling or not because there was no hurricane auction then. Also, this is exactly what I say above: that Roge's racket is selling more because he is the U.S.O champion. Who does not want that of his? If andre were the U.S.O champion I imagine his would sell more. That is very plausible, what is the problem for me to say it

You said:
"Sports museum might be ones bidding on such things. In that case, they want to display U.S.O 2005 Champion racket, not so much who it is belong to. Or it could be a rich person in Europa where Roge is more popular or equal popular as andre, compared to U.S"

Here you seemed to be hunting for a reason that anyone would possibly pay that much for Roger's racket. You appear to think it would likely be a European or a museum....not simply Donald Trump or any other American Billionaire. No offense, but I don't think you realize how much interest there is for Roger among the elite rich tennis fans of the US and around the world.

Later in another post you seemed to be saying as a Federer fan I should be able to realize that Agassi has legions of fans. I was in turn saying ....yes, I know he has legions of fans. Why do you take my stance about Federer's racket meaning more because it is HIS racket as some kind of slam against Agassi?

The final price was something like 25,000 for Federer's racket and 14,000 for Agassi's. I don't think this is merely someone wanting a championship racket. It's about someone wanting the championship racket of a legend....be it Roger or Andre either one. Either guy as champion would have brought in that kind of high bid. Someone else who was not a sports legend but was merely the winner of the tournament would not have brought in that kind of bid.

To illustrate.....would you pay as much for the Wimbledon championship racket of Krajicek as you would of Sampras? Wouldn't the Sampras racket mean more?

PamV
09-20-2005, 02:36 AM
Roddick bought Federer's racquet - I mean hey, he's got to try something new.

:shrug:

Good idea. Maybe he bought Nadal's shoes also.

oneandonlyhsn
09-20-2005, 02:38 AM
Roddick bought Federer's racquet - I mean hey, he's got to try something new.

:shrug:

Quit baiting tangerine_dream to come back trolling for the Duck :lol: