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Will these 2 guys own Men's Tennis?

IMMORTALCHAMP
09-16-2005, 02:32 PM
Gael Monfils (FRA)

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/images/MC65_AS.jpg

Birthdate: 1-Sep-86
Birthplace: Paris, France
Residence: Paris, France
Height: 6'4'' (193 cm)
Weight: 177 lbs (80 kg)
Plays: Right-handed
Turned Pro: 2004

2004.....The French teenager finished as the world's No. 1 junior, winning three of four junior Grand Slam events (Australian Open, Roland Garros, Wimbledon)…Improved his INDESIT ATP Entry Ranking by over 600 positions…In October, made ATP debut as a wild card entrant in Metz and reached QF by defeating Malisse and Patience before losing to countryman Gasquet…Qualified into ATP Masters Series Paris and reached 2nd RD by beating former Top 10 Enqvist before falling to No. 3 Hewitt.....2005.....Won Poland Open in Sopot defeating Mayer, Florian (GER) in the Final 7-6(6) 4-6 7-5.....US Open 1st Round: lost to Djokovic, Novak (SCG) 5-7 6-4 6-7(5) 6-0 5-7

Scoville Jenkins (USA)

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/images/J290_AT.jpg

Birthdate: 23-Sep-86
Birthplace: Atlanta, GA, USA
Residence: Atlanta, GA, USA
Height: 6'2'' (187 cm)
Weight: 170 lbs (77 kg)
Plays: Right-handed
Turned Pro: 2004

2005 US Open:
1st Round defeated Bastl, George (SUI) 7-6(4) 6-0 6-7(1) 4-6 7-6(5)
2nd Round lost to Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 4-6 5-7 4-6

propi
09-16-2005, 02:37 PM
NO
Pity I can't write it bigger :p

TheMightyFed
09-16-2005, 02:37 PM
Gael must be more agressive and steady mentally, he has a shot at it. Jenkins I didn't see him.
Gasquet will be in top 5 soon I think.

Papakori
09-16-2005, 03:52 PM
Gael

Merton
09-16-2005, 03:54 PM
Why?

ClaycourtaZzZz.
09-16-2005, 08:53 PM
Scoville will do it, Gael hasn't got those " great " shots when he needs them!:p

jacobhiggins
09-16-2005, 09:14 PM
There the future, but there not gonna own tennis. I think we are being spoiled with Federer!

Adman
09-16-2005, 10:07 PM
Jenkins in really good player, he played really well against Nadal

Monfils is a good young player and he has won his first ATP title.

savesthedizzle
09-16-2005, 10:08 PM
Why those two?

Are they just so supremely more talented than the rest of their generation? I don't really think so. Not only are they part of a very talented group of guys coming up, but they are going to have to deal with Nadal their whole careers, and it's not like Fed is going to drop dead tomorrow either.

mangoes
09-16-2005, 11:41 PM
Scoville Jenkins has the raw talent to make more of an impression in tennis than Gael Monfils. I'll give him a little more time and if he is really dedicated to the success of his game, "watch out for him"

Gael Monfils is overrated.

However, there are a lot of new faces coming on the scene that are full of talent. I also don't see Nadal going anywhere. If anything, I see Nadal and Federer dominating next year for sure.

Federer is 'outfoxing'/making sure Nadal doesn't catch him, and Nadal is hunting Roger. The others are somewhere behind asking Safin in his moments of mental clarity for advice on how to catch the two of them.

delsa
09-16-2005, 11:54 PM
My opinion: No. But i'm not a fortune teller so who knows?

myggen
09-17-2005, 12:04 AM
They are exactly the same age as Nadal and Gasquet. I don't know why Jenkins and Monfils are even mentioned in the same sentence as Gasquet and Nadal. There is a HUGE difference here. When Federer has had enough fun, tennis will be dominated by Nadal and Gasquet, and if Gasquet is able to improve physically he will be the clear number one in a few years.

delsa
09-17-2005, 12:08 AM
They are exactly the same age as Nadal and Gasquet. I don't know why Jenkins and Monfils are even mentioned in the same sentence as Gasquet and Nadal. There is a HUGE difference here. When Federer has had enough fun, tennis will be dominated by Nadal and Gasquet, and if Gasquet is able to improve physically he will be the clear number one in a few years.
How come ppl can be so sure of things like that?
I admire you in a way.
You can see the future?

myggen
09-17-2005, 12:18 AM
How come ppl can be so sure of things like that?
I admire you in a way.
You can see the future?

My post included a big IF, so I don't feel like God or anything. But my job is trying to see the future in tennis, but I can tell you it isn't always so easy...

its.like.that
09-17-2005, 12:52 AM
Well they're blake so they must.

(is that the answer you were looking for?)

:retard:

LLeytonRules
09-17-2005, 12:58 AM
I dont know how u can call Monfils overrated, u dont win 3 out of 4 GS junior titles and be overrated, he has a big serve and has alot of athleticism for a big kid, he is about 6'4.The thing that might hold him back will be his attitude and his cockyness and no appreciation of the other players, he clearly is not even better then the Albero Costas of the world now, he needs to get his head straight!

bad gambler
09-17-2005, 01:03 AM
neither

lilfairyprincess
09-17-2005, 01:25 AM
yea why these two?? :confused:

i don't think they will both "own" men's tennis if either of them do at all!! it'll still take them both a couple of years to find their best form and by then fed and the guys from now mite very well still be around nevermind any new young stars who rise quickly in the game.

Scotso
09-17-2005, 02:10 AM
Scoville?

Are you kidding?

chicky841
09-18-2005, 12:21 AM
own tennis?? I think Gael will be able to be top ten. But Scoville nah.

myggen
09-18-2005, 12:30 AM
own tennis?? I think Gael will be able to be top ten. But Scoville nah.

Scoville is an extremely raw talent still. He's got Blake's amazing athletic abilities, but technically he is so far far away from Gasquet, Nadal and Monfils. The way he against Nadal time after time totally missed the ball on his backhand side was at best embarrassing to watch...

KoOlMaNsEaN
09-18-2005, 12:38 AM
Non

victory1
09-18-2005, 01:52 AM
They are exactly the same age as Nadal and Gasquet. I don't know why Jenkins and Monfils are even mentioned in the same sentence as Gasquet and Nadal. There is a HUGE difference here. When Federer has had enough fun, tennis will be dominated by Nadal and Gasquet, and if Gasquet is able to improve physically he will be the clear number one in a few years.

That's exactly what P Mac and some other commentator said about Federer in early 2003. They were discussing the future of men tennis and they thought it would be in large part Roddick, Hewitt, and Safin (they even mentioned JCF in the long run on clay); Federer was not on their list, I don't think they saw him coming! Of course later on in 2003 when he won Wimbledon they where singing a different tune but I don't think they were ready for 2004 & 2005! :D You never know how things going to evolve? ;)

whosnext
09-18-2005, 02:30 AM
When Federer has had enough fun, tennis will be dominated by Nadal and Gasquet, and if Gasquet is able to improve physically he will be the clear number one in a few years.
Gasquet's game is definitely great, and great to watch as well. He and Nadal should be dominating when everyone else leaves.

delsa
09-18-2005, 08:34 AM
I dont know how u can call Monfils overrated, u dont win 3 out of 4 GS junior titles and be overrated, he has a big serve and has alot of athleticism for a big kid, he is about 6'4.The thing that might hold him back will be his attitude and his cockyness and no appreciation of the other players, he clearly is not even better then the Albero Costas of the world now, he needs to get his head straight!
Actually it's completely the opposite.
Not so much of an attitude except the will to enjoy himself on the court when he plays and share a lot with the public. Big matches temperament.
And he's a good sport. Not complaining (except to the umpire a lot before but less and less) about the other players behaviour no matter how weird they may be. He respects them.
But very very very overhyped. Has a lot to improve and to work on.
You sound as if you were judging a book by his cover without even really having following him lately (or ever) closely. But i may be wrong.

NewTennisFan
09-18-2005, 08:40 AM
Djokovic is better than both Monfils and Jenkins. He doesn't have the same sort of publicity or financial backing, though. Hell, ATP website doesn't even have a bio of him, let alone a picture.

Rex
09-18-2005, 08:51 AM
dunno - have to see what happens.......

Leo
09-18-2005, 01:49 PM
Neither one has a complete game at this point in time and I don't see any "dominating" features. I'm left puzzled by this thread.

gvhvhg
09-18-2005, 03:16 PM
Djokovic, Murray and Monfils are a level above Jenkins.

Those are the three who are going to be at the top with Nadal.

amierin
09-18-2005, 03:44 PM
That's exactly what P Mac and some other commentator said about Federer in early 2003. They were discussing the future of men tennis and they thought it would be in large part Roddick, Hewitt, and Safin (they even mentioned JCF in the long run on clay); Federer was not on their list, I don't think they saw him coming! Of course later on in 2003 when he won Wimbledon they where singing a different tune but I don't think they were ready for 2004 & 2005! You never know how things going to evolve?

Monfils has been brought along slowly. I think we'll see more of him next year. Jenkins needs to step up and play the main tour now or else he'll always be just potential.

silverwhite
09-19-2005, 02:06 AM
How come ppl can be so sure of things like that?
I admire you in a way.
You can see the future?

Delsa :lol: My thoughts exactly. :yeah:

aj_m2009
09-19-2005, 02:56 AM
Djokovic, Murray and Monfils are a level above Jenkins.

Those are the three who are going to be at the top with Nadal.

Yes, and they r all top 110. Sco is just barely in the top 300 (currently 294). Give the guy time.

aj_m2009
09-19-2005, 03:18 AM
Monfils has been brought along slowly. I think we'll see more of him next year. Jenkins needs to step up and play the main tour now or else he'll always be just potential.

I kinda sorta agree here. He'll be 19 in a few days, most of the guys that have made some noise on the tour have been playing the ATP level events at this age. But imo it wont be too long before he is playing on the main tour full time. I say at the latest, itll be around August next year that he starts playing full time. (yeah Im sure thatll be a little more time than he needs, but oh well lol) But anyways... I think we should give him just a bit more time playin challengers and everything so he can get his ranking just a bit higher.

wcr
09-19-2005, 03:30 AM
2006 will sort of be Nadal's "sophomore" year. If he manages to perform as well in 2006 against his 2005 records; as Roger did in 2005 against his 2004 records, this could be true. Too soon to say now. Let's see how others on the tour respond to his game next year. Blake took notes from Agassi at the USO before playing Nadal. It paid off.

Brad Gilbert thinks Berdych has the most promise among the young ones. I don't expect the "youngsters" to sit around and let Nadal have his way with them for long.

My apologies. I didn't read the first post in this thread before adding my two cents worth. I assumed it was about Nadal/Federer since they dominated 2005.

No chance for Monfils or Jenkins to dominate next year. They haven't pulled themselves together well enough to do this.

I saw Monfils at IW last spring. Sat in the bleachers behind his coach who was coaching him all the way through his match against Morrison. Really quite annoying. It appeared that Monfils couldn't think for himself during that match. Glad to see his game has improved since his straight set loss to Robredo at IW.

AgassiFan
09-19-2005, 04:46 AM
Monfils
Nadal
Gasquet
Djokovic
Murray
Berdych

Plus the usual suspects Fed, Hewitt, Safin, Roddick and Mystery Late-Bloomer X (possibly Blake)....


Should be fun.