In 10 years, will Nadal's capri pants will look as ridiculous as Agassi fluo clothes. [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

In 10 years, will Nadal's capri pants will look as ridiculous as Agassi fluo clothes.

vincayou
09-15-2005, 02:05 PM
I think this is a very worthy poll. And I don't think the issue was ever discussed here.

PamV
09-15-2005, 02:11 PM
I think the pants already look ridiculous now.

jenanun
09-15-2005, 02:18 PM
i dont think there is anything wrong with the pants.... who knows what happen in 10 years.... fashion change all the time, a lot of things look ridiculous 10 years go


u can say either the pants look ridiculous now or not... who cares about it 10 years later...

sorry i dont see the point of the poll...

mickymouse
09-15-2005, 02:20 PM
Will people still be talking about Nadal in 10 years' time?

Castafiore
09-15-2005, 02:23 PM
sorry i dont see the point of the poll...
But, but...Nadal's clothes (and in particular the pants) have never been discussed before and it's a worthy poll just like every poll here on MTF and...:zzz:...sorry, dozed off for a minute...and besides, we've got the entire image of tennis to think off, you know. These things matter and you can never have enough topics about pants.


Now, where are the usual suspects to talk about rivetting topics such as these? Already spotted two. :angel:

vincayou
09-15-2005, 02:32 PM
For those who don't remember agassi in his final against Gomez :
http://www.imagesbyevvy.com/tennis%20prints/agassi-3.jpg

TomTheNewb
09-15-2005, 03:39 PM
For those who don't remember agassi in his final against Gomez :
http://www.imagesbyevvy.com/tennis%20prints/agassi-3.jpg

Oh my...Why didnt he wear those versus Fed

Choupi
09-15-2005, 03:49 PM
Well, I don't like the capris of Rafa, but, as Agassi won my heart, definitely, with his fluo outfits- and note I'm not ashamed of admitting it!!!!- I can't blame anybody who likes them. :)

victory1
09-15-2005, 03:55 PM
It look ridiculous NOW!

Choupi
09-15-2005, 03:59 PM
It look ridiculous NOW!
If you look at it now, of course. But put back in its own time, it was :yeah: And I doubt the capris will have that success in the trends....but nobody knows. We'll see.

AgassiFan
09-15-2005, 04:18 PM
I am going to tell a little secret that the countless lemmings don't know:

NO FASHION MOVEMENT/ERA IS INHERENTLY MORE OR LESS RIDICULOUS THAN ANOTHER. HELLO!

vincayou
09-15-2005, 04:57 PM
I am going to tell a little secret that the countless lemmings don't know:

NO FASHION MOVEMENT/ERA IS INHERENTLY MORE OR LESS RIDICULOUS THAN ANOTHER. HELLO!

You need to have a second look at Agassi's picture. I wouldn't call it a fashion movement though!!! :lol: I think he was on his own.

*julie*
09-15-2005, 05:03 PM
His spiderman top will embarrass him much more than his capris imo... :rolleyes:

AgassiFan
09-15-2005, 05:06 PM
You need to have a second look at Agassi's picture..


Not being a typical mindless drone who confuses 'taste' or 'quality'... with 'arbitrary personal preference', I've got no problems with that outfit.



Signed, Existential Perspective.

Castafiore
09-15-2005, 05:08 PM
Not being a typical mindless drone who confuses 'taste' or 'quality'... with 'arbitrary personal preference', I've got no problems with that outfit.

Signed, Existential Perspective.
:yeah:

vincayou
09-15-2005, 05:19 PM
Not being a typical mindless drone who confuses 'taste' or 'quality'... with 'arbitrary personal preference', I've got no problems with that outfit.



Signed, Existential Perspective.

What is a taste which is not a personal preference?

AgassiFan
09-15-2005, 05:24 PM
What is a taste which is not a personal preference?

Some day I'll tell you,.

vincayou
09-15-2005, 05:26 PM
Some day I'll tell you,.

No come on, tell me, I'm interested. :)

Skyward
09-15-2005, 05:47 PM
http://www.fashionbody.co.uk/Med-Male.gif

Fashion goes in cycles. Take the coat off, and here's your Nike outfit.

its.like.that
09-15-2005, 05:48 PM
another :bs: thread

alfonsojose
09-15-2005, 06:11 PM
I think the pants already look ridiculous now.
:lol: :yeah:

alfonsojose
09-15-2005, 06:12 PM
http://www.fashionbody.co.uk/Med-Male.gif

Fashion goes in cycles. Take the coat off, and here's your Nike outfit.
if the bulge would looked like that, i'd be fine for me :drool:

daze11
09-15-2005, 06:31 PM
they look ridiculous NOW! :rolleyes:

mangoes
09-15-2005, 06:32 PM
I like the pants on Nadal.

Scotso
09-15-2005, 07:06 PM
Capris will always be fashionable.

Saumon
09-15-2005, 07:17 PM
Hello! :wavey: Capris are very popular here in Europe. :rolleyes:

buddyholly
09-15-2005, 08:26 PM
Federer could upstage Nadal in his Crapi pants in Shanghai by appearing in tights and a cape.

MisterQ
09-16-2005, 02:48 AM
:banana:

MisterQ
09-16-2005, 02:48 AM
Federer could upstage Nadal in his Crapi pants in Shanghai by appearing in tights and a cape.

That is brilliant advice! :worship:

Leo
09-16-2005, 03:04 AM
I think the pants already look ridiculous now.

This is the correct answer.

buddyholly
09-16-2005, 03:42 AM
ESPN just showed Agassi v Edberg in the 1990 Masters' Cup, and yes Agassi looked ridiculous, especially compared to the sartorially perfect Edberg.

buddyholly
09-16-2005, 03:47 AM
What is a taste which is not a personal preference?

Taste is indeed a personal preference, it is whether it is good or bad taste that defines the man. Those of us with good taste, just know instinctively what it is :cool:

MisterQ
09-16-2005, 03:51 AM
ESPN just showed Agassi v Edberg in the 1990 Masters' Cup, and yes Agassi looked ridiculous, especially compared to the sartorially perfect Edberg.

well at least he won that one.

At the French Open he just looked ridiculous. :lol:

PaulieM
09-16-2005, 03:55 AM
the capris are ridiculously ugly now and probably will be in 10 years too.

victory1
09-16-2005, 05:52 AM
the capris are ridiculously ugly now and probably will be in 10 years too.

They looked even more ridiculous at the US Open with that tight shirt! :p My boyfriend came into the room while I was watching Nadal & Blake to ask me a question and when he was leaving, he said "what the heck!" I saw him looking at the the TV screen; I knew he was going to say something about Nadal's outfit (he's also an athelete, he played college basketball for North Carolina and pro for the Pheonix Suns but he was always 2nd string, never one of the best, he'd be angry if he knew I told you guys, so :tape: ). Anyway, that outfit Nadal had on at the US Open may look ok to some of us, but for people who don't know who he is and have never seen him before, the expression on their face when they first see his outfit is priceless! :D :lol:

mallorn
09-16-2005, 07:56 AM
I have a hard time imagining anything more ridiculous than the Agassi outfit + hair :eek: :haha:
I don't see anything ridiculous about Nadal's pants and they're very popular in Europe. He's just the first to wear them in such a context :rolleyes:

PaulieM
09-16-2005, 01:36 PM
They looked even more ridiculous at the US Open with that tight shirt! :p My boyfriend came into the room while I was watching Nadal & Blake to ask me a question and when he was leaving, he said "what the heck!" I saw him looking at the the TV screen; I knew he was going to say something about Nadal's outfit (he's also an athelete, he played college basketball for North Carolina and pro for the Pheonix Suns but he was always 2nd string, never one of the best, he'd be angry if he knew I told you guys, so :tape: ). Anyway, that outfit Nadal had on at the US Open may look ok to some of us, but for people who don't know who he is and have never seen him before, the expression on their face when they first see his outfit is priceless! :D :lol:
:lol: yes the shirt was pretty bad too, any shirt that you have to roll on like condom is a no no.

PaulieM
09-16-2005, 01:44 PM
I have a hard time imagining anything more ridiculous than the Agassi outfit + hair :eek: :haha:
I don't see anything ridiculous about Nadal's pants and they're very popular in Europe. He's just the first to wear them in such a context :rolleyes:
a lot of things that are popular are ridiculous, ugg boots are popular but i'm pretty sure the first person to wear them in a new context ie. sheepskin boots in summer with a short skirt looked ridiculous. ;)

mallorn
09-16-2005, 02:13 PM
:lol: yes the shirt was pretty bad too, any shirt that you have to roll on like condom is a no no.
:rolls: :yeah:
You're right about many popular things being ridiculous but I don't see how wearing slightly longer pants on court compares to wearing sheepskin boots in summer :shrug:

TheBoiledEgg
09-16-2005, 02:52 PM
i had one of those pink/black Agassi shirts :lol:
looking back now :eek:
oh the thought :o

looking back 15 yrs to Andre and those clothes :bolt: :eek: :lol:

I'm sure Hrbaty's shirt will be remembered almost as much as that catsuit worn at Wimbledon ;)

PaulieM
09-16-2005, 03:13 PM
:rolls: :yeah:
You're right about many popular things being ridiculous but I don't see how wearing slightly longer pants on court compares to wearing sheepskin boots in summer :shrug:
they are comparable because they are both items of clothing that were taken out of their original context, and both look ridiculous. you said that capris are popular and it was simply because rafa was the first person to wear them in this new context that people think they are ridiculous. despite the fact that the uggs/skirt trend eventually caught on i still think it looks ridiculous as will rafa's pants in my opinion even if the whole world starts wearing them on court, my opinion has nothing to do with it being a first. that's all i was saying. :)

that and i think all men wearing capris in any context look awful. :p :shrug:

Adman
09-16-2005, 03:42 PM
People will be talking about Agassi in years to come as one of the Greatest Tennis players of all time. I think that it will be kind of a side issue whether he wares short shorts or pink pants or Denim short shorts.

mallorn
09-16-2005, 04:33 PM
@ PaulieM
Well, of course it's a matter of opinion and taste, and neither of us can persuade the other to think otherwise! The bottom line is:
that and i think all men wearing capris in any context look awful. :p :shrug:

I couldn't disagree more, I like them in every summer context :lol: :p

So, I'm definitely not trying to convince you to like them, but I still see a difference between wearing pants that are some 10 cm longer and a bit tighter than the standard ones, and wearing winter boots in summer, which frankly is a scary thought! :lol:

Taking things out of their original context may seem ridiculous at times, but itís a mark of progress and imagination. Fashion changes all the time, on and off tennis court. It would be very boring if we were to see the same outfits on the tennis court for years and years. Sure, itís subjective, sure some (many?) innovations are misses (for me the Agassi outfit and the 1980s fashion, for you the Nadal pants) but some are hits, and change is inevitable. Plus, various outfits suit different people (OMG John McEnroe in the capris, a big no-no!) and I think help express their personality.

PaulieM
09-16-2005, 05:29 PM
@ PaulieM
Well, of course it's a matter of opinion and taste, and neither of us can persuade the other to think otherwise! The bottom line is:

I couldn't disagree more, I like them in every summer context :lol: :p

So, I'm definitely not trying to convince you to like them, but I still see a difference between wearing pants that are some 10 cm longer and a bit tighter than the standard ones, and wearing winter boots in summer, which frankly is a scary thought! :lol:

Taking things out of their original context may seem ridiculous at times, but itís a mark of progress and imagination. Fashion changes all the time, on and off tennis court. It would be very boring if we were to see the same outfits on the tennis court for years and years. Sure, itís subjective, sure some (many?) innovations are misses (for me the Agassi outfit and the 1980s fashion, for you the Nadal pants) but some are hits, and change is inevitable. Plus, various outfits suit different people (OMG John McEnroe in the capris, a big no-no!) and I think help express their personality.

i wasn't saying taking any kind of clothing out of it's original context is bad. of course it isn't, that's how fashion develops. however some developments are good some are just scary, it's a matter of opinion. and my opinion is that the capri pant is a bad development in tennis fashion, regardless of how many people decide to wear it. I hope the capri pant is one trend, like andre's outfits that doesn't catch on :shrug: therefore as far as i'm concerned, in answer to the threads question, Yes they will look just as ridiculous in 10 years.
also i agree JMac in the capris was so beyond scary :eek: now imagine if only rafa had unveiled the condom shirt earlier (another one i hope doesn't catch on, throw hyrbaty's shirt into that category as well), we might have been subjected to seeing jmac in that as well :scared: :bolt:

Rex
09-16-2005, 06:03 PM
i put down both equally, but the way i look at it- nadals cloths are pretty wierd and he would have more to be ashamed about a that age.

AgassiFan
09-16-2005, 06:51 PM
I have a hard time imagining anything more ridiculous than the Agassi outfit + hair ::

I pity your imagination as well as your inability to grasp the term 'ridiculous'.

Andre circa 1991 > Andre circa 2001 when it comes to fashion. At least the 1991 one had some balls; the 2001 one is as bland as he is insincere.

KoOlMaNsEaN
09-16-2005, 09:57 PM
nadal's pants are not even close to tennis style

selesfan
09-17-2005, 03:52 AM
;) I think the pants already look ridiculous now.

:lol: so do I. I think the shirt he wears is worse, it looks like a danskin or scuba outfit. All he needs is the big S and he is Superman.

Fi-Fi
09-17-2005, 03:59 AM
;)

:lol: so do I. I think the shirt he wears is worse, it looks like a danskin or scuba outfit. All he needs is the big S and he is Superman.
oh the shirt is by far the ugliest thing i have ever seen him wear :eek: i cringed when i first saw it :haha:

victory1
09-17-2005, 05:23 AM
;)

:lol: so do I. I think the shirt he wears is worse, it looks like a danskin or scuba outfit. All he needs is the big S and he is Superman.

My boyfriend thinks Nadal has some sugar in his tank! :lol: He feels no completely straight guy would be caught dead in that outfit. ;) He's only seen Nadal play 1 time for about 30 second agaisnt Blake, I told him the tight shirt was making the outfit look worse and that it's not usually that ugly! :D

Chloe le Bopper
09-17-2005, 06:14 AM
I love that people actually get their panties into a twist over Rafa's outfit. A pity I wasn't old enough to see the humour in Andre's back in the day :p

Chloe le Bopper
09-17-2005, 06:16 AM
My boyfriend thinks Nadal has some sugar in his tank! :lol: He feels no completely straight guy would be caught dead in that outfit. ;) He's only seen Nadal play 1 time for about 30 second agaisnt Blake, I told him the tight shirt was making the outfit look worse and that it's not usually that ugly! :D
I think that a lot of the "gay" comments that are shot at Nadal, stem from cultural differences... between Americans and Europeans, that is. For whatever reasons, some American men seem to think it's "unmanly" to wear capris. Apparently it's more regular, thus nobody really bats an eye when somebody does it across the pond. Of course, I've never been there, so I'm only going by word of mouth. The resident Euros are welcome to step in and add a correction.

irma
09-17-2005, 07:03 AM
With all credit to Andre, but I think the outfit he was wearing the second half of 90 was the most ridiculous ever. I still like the pink one but the yellow one is really ugly and I think even found that in 1990 ;)

mallorn
09-17-2005, 08:41 AM
I pity your imagination as well as your inability to grasp the term 'ridiculous'.

Andre circa 1991 > Andre circa 2001 when it comes to fashion. At least the 1991 one had some balls; the 2001 one is as bland as he is insincere.

Wow, you're too serious about it, but ok, let's do it your way.

I pity the fact that you judge my imagination and knowledge of English based on what, three posts? :shrug: I don't think I have any problem 'grasping the term <ridiculous>':

ridiculous - deserving to be laughed at; absurd (Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

As much as I like Agassi, that's precisely what I do when I look at that 1991 outfit - laugh. I am not the only one.

AgassiFan
09-17-2005, 05:19 PM
As much as I like Agassi, that's precisely what I do when I look at that 1991 outfit - laugh. I am not the only one.


Hence my characterization of you and others as "lemming-drones".

Pink, yellow, mullet, hair dye, fades, glow, spandex, etc, etc - believe it or not, those are NOT inherently inferior or ridiculous in any way shape or form. Next time I have a conversation with God or Cosmos, I'll be sure to get the proof of this in written form. ;)

For the record, I was 6 years old, in another part of the world and never cared much that particular look anyway, but I am not about to slag either Nadal or Andre because of some moronic fashion/cultural/groupthink paradigm. Ya dig?



PS I wasn't making fun of your English - just pointing out your simplistic, cliched application of 'ridiculous' when it comes to fashion.

mallorn
09-17-2005, 08:21 PM
Hi AgassiFan, it's me again

Youíre jumping to conclusions calling me a lemming-drone because of one opinion. I think if you knew me in real life youíd say Iím anything but. I know, you only have these posts to base your perception of me on, but it's too little and youíre too fast to judge me. Also, I thought most people here didnít like the capris (looking at the poll results) so I seem to be in a minority on that one, too.
Pink, yellow, mullet, hair dye, fades, glow, spandex, etc, etc - believe it or not, those are NOT inherently inferior or ridiculous in any way shape or form.
No, itís the 1991 combination of the above that is ridiculous. To me, that is. Whyís that simplistic or cliched? :confused: :confused: :confused:
I am not about to slag either Nadal or Andre because of some moronic fashion/cultural/groupthink paradigm. Ya dig?
I do. Poll = a survey of opinions. I don't think I slagged Andre, I just happen to have an opinion about his outfit. I thought I was entitled to have one? :shrug: If youíre going to try to set new fashion trends, you have to expect that some people will be critical. It doesnít mean I respect Andre any less. In fact, I think I like him more for that because it makes him come across as a much more colourful person (pun not intended). Plus, it definitely takes courage to wear something like that :lol:

PS. Lucky you, you have conversations with God! :worship: So, could you ask Him if He liked Agassiís outfit? Just curious Ö ;)