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Predict year end ranks.

Grinder
09-14-2005, 11:54 PM
I want to see who you guys think will be the top 20 at the end of the year.

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Roddick
4. Agassi
5. Hewitt
6. Davydenko
7. Coria
8. Puerta
9. Gasquet
10. Nalbandian
11. Gaudio
12. T. Johansson
13. Ferrero
14. Ljubicic
15. Ginepri
16. Blake
17. Ferrer
18. Dent
19. Gonzalez
20. Stepanek

megadeth
09-15-2005, 12:37 AM
where's safin?

JonnyC21
09-15-2005, 12:41 AM
There you go. Can't see why Puerta will climb the rankings at this point.


INDESIT ATP 2005 Race Top 20 As of Monday, 1-Jan-06

1 Federer, Roger (SUI)
2 Nadal, Rafael (ESP)
3 Roddick, Andy (USA)
4 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)
5 Agassi, Andre (USA)
6 Coria, Guillermo (ARG)
7 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)
8 Nalbandian, David (ARG)
9 Safin, Marat (RUS)
10 Gasquet, Richard (FRA)
11 Gaudio, Gaston (ARG)
12 Puerta, Mariano (ARG)
13 Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP)
14 Blake, James (USA)
15 Johansson, Thomas (SWE)
16 Ginepri, Robby (USA)
17 Ferrer, David (ESP)
18 Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
19 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI)
20 Kiefer, Nicolas (GER)

Grinder
09-15-2005, 12:45 AM
There you go. Can't see why Puerta will climb the rankings at this point.


INDESIT ATP 2005 Race Top 20 As of Monday, 1-Jan-06

1 Federer, Roger (SUI)
2 Nadal, Rafael (ESP)
3 Roddick, Andy (USA)
4 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)
5 Agassi, Andre (USA)
6 Coria, Guillermo (ARG)
7 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)
8 Nalbandian, David (ARG)
9 Safin, Marat (RUS)
10 Gasquet, Richard (FRA)
11 Gaudio, Gaston (ARG)
12 Puerta, Mariano (ARG)
13 Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP)
14 Blake, James (USA)
15 Johansson, Thomas (SWE)
16 Ginepri, Robby (USA)
17 Ferrer, David (ESP)
18 Robredo, Tommy (ESP)
19 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI)
20 Kiefer, Nicolas (GER)

Well, Puerta has a couple of clay court tournies coming up with no points to defend. I forgot Safin, I'd probably put him around 9 like you did because he will probably lose his TMS Points and most of his TMC points.

JonnyC21
09-15-2005, 01:03 AM
Yes mate, don't get me wrong I think Puerta is a spectacular player to watch on clay but I think he has to qualify for the Master's Cup in order to have an genuine shot at the top 8. One good think about the Champion's Race is that it is good for making lists like that, cos you don't have to calculate how many points a player earned last year and how many points to take off etc.

I'm expecting Ginepri and Blake to make huge climbs in the next couple of months, and Kiefer has the perfect game for indoor and carpet that have led him to do well in the past, as well as being hugely talented. The Frog seems to be taking a tumble on both of our ranking lists. On mine its simply cos I think a lot of the players who will move up will push him down. But then again if he plays a lot and uses his consistancy to move through open draws then he could even reach the cusp of the top ten. He and Davydenko have moved almost invisibly up the ranking list. I have put Coria ahead of Davydenko as I think he has a better chance of winning on hardcourts, and is a far better class of player than the Russian.

Grinder
09-15-2005, 01:07 AM
I was shoked by Davyenko's rise this year dude, he's got a solid game that translates well to every surface, just deathly boring to watch.

JonnyC21
09-15-2005, 01:33 AM
I saw the whole of Davydenko's 5 set loss to Lee Childs (then ranked in the 300s) in the first round of Wimbledon 2003 after being 2-1 up. Davydenko was a seeded player, I think ranked 33, and while you can't judge a player on one match, there was nothing about this game that suggested top 10 to me.

Noone on this forum really talks about Davydenko. Monfils, Murray, Djokovic and even Don Young get more attention than this man who has been a top 7 fixture since Paris: it probably is that "boredom" factor.

The lad must have obviously played his socks off to beat Canas and Henman in straight sets in Melbourne, and his win over Coria in Paris completely shocked me, especially considering the way Coria humiliated him in the first round of the same tournament last year. And a 44 - 23 record this year with 6 semi finals and a title in St Poelton suggests otherwise.

peteslamz
09-15-2005, 03:36 PM
I was shoked by Davyenko's rise this year dude, he's got a solid game that translates well to every surface, just deathly boring to watch.


I agree. No offense to others but I hope he does not make it to the elite top eight for the tennis master cup because I want someone more exciting to get his spot so it would be more worth watching. He lacks personality. Well that's just my opinion.

revolution
09-15-2005, 04:24 PM
I saw the whole of Davydenko's 5 set loss to Lee Childs (then ranked in the 300s) in the first round of Wimbledon 2003 after being 2-1 up. Davydenko was a seeded player, I think ranked 33, and while you can't judge a player on one match, there was nothing about this game that suggested top 10 to me.

Noone on this forum really talks about Davydenko. Monfils, Murray, Djokovic and even Don Young get more attention than this man who has been a top 7 fixture since Paris: it probably is that "boredom" factor.

The lad must have obviously played his socks off to beat Canas and Henman in straight sets in Melbourne, and his win over Coria in Paris completely shocked me, especially considering the way Coria humiliated him in the first round of the same tournament last year. And a 44 - 23 record this year with 6 semi finals and a title in St Poelton suggests otherwise.


He didn't play his socks off against Henman, as he didn't really need to.

TomTheNewb
09-15-2005, 04:34 PM
1 Federer, Roger (SUI)
2 Nadal, Rafael (ESP)
3 Agaasi, Andre (USA)
4 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS)
5 Roddick, Andy (USA)
6 Coria, Guillermo (ARG)
7 Gasquet, Richard (FRA)
8 Nalbandian, David (ARG)
9 Davydenko,Nikolay (RUS)
10 Puerta, Mariano (ARG)
11 Gaudio, Gaston (ARG)
12 Safin, Marat (RUS)
13 Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP)
14 Ancic, Mario (CRO)
15 Ginepri, Robby (USA)
16 Jarko Nieminin (FIN)
17 Ferrer, David (ESP)
18 Ljubijic, Ivan (CRO)
19 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI)
20 Rusedski, Greg(GBR)

willie
09-16-2005, 06:48 PM
2005 Race Ranking Year End.
1.ROGER FEDERER
2.RAFAEL NADAL
3.LLEYTON HEWITT
4.ANDY RODDICK
5.ANDRE AGASSI
6.GUILLERMO CORIA
7.NIKOLAY DAVYDENKO
8.RICHARD GASQUET
9.GASTON GAUDIO
10.MARIANO PUERTA
11.MARAT SAFIN
12.DAVID NALBANDIAN
13.FERNANDO GONZALEZ
14.DAVID FERRER
15.JUAN CARLOS FERRERO
16.IVAN LJUBICIC
17.RADEK STEPANEK
18.THOMAS JOHANSSON
19.JAMES BLAKE
20.ROBBY GINEPRI

delsa
09-16-2005, 06:55 PM
I agree. No offense to others but I hope he does not make it to the elite top eight for the tennis master cup because I want someone more exciting to get his spot so it would be more worth watching. He lacks personality. Well that's just my opinion.
It is not a problem of personnality. it's a problem of percentage tennis...

shotgun
09-16-2005, 07:39 PM
1. Roger Federer
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Lleyton Hewitt
4. Andy Roddick
5. Marat Safin
6. Guillermo Coria
7. Andre Agassi
8. Richard Gasquet
9. Nikolay Davydenko
10. David Nalbandian
11. Mariano Puerta
12. Gaston Gaudio
13. Fernando Gonzalez
14. Thomas Johansson
15. Juan Carlos Ferrero
16. Mario Ancic
17. Radek Stepanek
18. Ivan Ljubicic
19. David Ferrer
20. James Blake

Jimnik
09-16-2005, 07:46 PM
I don't see how people here can think Safin will drop out of the top 10. Puerta would have to have an unusually good indoor season and so would Gasquet or Nalbandian, who are about 100pts behind him in the 2005 race. Marat isn't going to be injured for the whole of the rest of the year, he only needs some semi-decent performances in Madrid and Paris to stay in the top 10.

As for Davydenko, I've seen him play many times this year on all surfaces and the guy has every shot. I've seen him hit forehand winners, backhand winners and service winners. His movement and defensive play is top notch too. He totally deserves to be in the top 8 and, had it not been for injury and fitness problems, he'd probably be ranked even higher than 7. The only surprise is why he's been ranked so low before this year. It's very unusual for a player to make his big rise up the rankings at the age of 24.

richie21
09-17-2005, 10:28 PM
i would love to see richie qualify for the masters! :hearts:
and the best is that he really can,especially considering he has nearly not any points to defend comparing to the players who are just ahead of him

silverwhite
09-18-2005, 06:09 AM
i would love to see richie qualify for the masters! :hearts:
and the best is that he really can,especially considering he has nearly not any points to defend comparing to the players who are just ahead of him

His injury has been diagnosed as a fissure and I would be glad if he even manages to play the indoor season in good health.

delsa
09-18-2005, 08:20 AM
i would love to see richie qualify for the masters! :hearts:
and the best is that he really can,especially considering he has nearly not any points to defend comparing to the players who are just ahead of him
Even if he would be able forcing himself to play, it's not wise. Next year maybe.

mr_burns
09-20-2005, 03:46 PM
I'm quite sure Kiefer will rise in the rankings, good indoor player, good form...He'll be ariund 16. Player like Gaudio and Puerta won't make many points, watch out for blake

AgassiFan
09-21-2005, 01:20 AM
1. Federer
2. Federer
3. Nadal
4. Federer

mishar
09-21-2005, 05:33 AM
If Lleyton doesn't play until Shanghai, he'll have trouble staying ahead of an active Roddick and potentially active Agassi.

I'd love to see if Gasquet or Nalbandian could finish in the top 10. I don't see Gaudio, Puerta or Ferrer getting too many more points this year.

I'd love to see James B. end up in the top 20. That would be a best-ever finish for him. He'll need to play well indoors, which he's never done in the fall before. But I remember an interview years ago where he said it was the "surface" he felt most comfortable as he spent much time playing indoors growing up. Hopefully his improved serve and backhand will stick around.

NYCtennisfan
09-21-2005, 08:56 AM
It's too bad about GAsquet. He played pretty well at the OPen considering his condition. It might be best if he rests up for the rest of the year and comes back strong for next year.

Shabazza
09-21-2005, 11:17 AM
It's too bad about GAsquet. He played pretty well at the OPen considering his condition. It might be best if he rests up for the rest of the year and comes back strong for next year.
Though as much as I want to watch him play, :sad: I agree with you, he should rest his elbow and aim for a big 2006 season!