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Who should Pat Mac pick for second singles?

AndyMurray
09-07-2005, 10:00 PM
It's simple... Ginepri or Blake? Who's it to be?

croat123
09-08-2005, 03:19 AM
probably blake, but ginepri would be better on clay i think (although they both have sucked on clay and i doubt they will have a chance against belgium)

AndyMurray
09-08-2005, 11:24 AM
Personally, I think Blake has the better game for clay... Ginepri's backhand would be too exposed.

AsianSensation
09-11-2005, 06:11 AM
Do we know who's gonna play singles for Belgium? O. Rochus and Malisse?

Björki
09-11-2005, 10:32 AM
Do we know who's gonna play singles for Belgium? O. Rochus and Malisse?
Malisse isn't in the team.

nitsansh
09-13-2005, 02:42 AM
Is Agassi available??
He is surely the best American on clay!

Björki
09-13-2005, 06:50 AM
Agassi isn't available.

nitsansh
09-13-2005, 10:11 PM
I don't fancy either Blake or Ginepri's chances vs Olivier and Cristophe. Andy and the Twins will have to be at their best to pull out victory.

nitsansh
09-13-2005, 10:14 PM
Blake was nominated for US team, but that could be changed until an hour before the draw.
The Rochus brothers are joined by Vliegen and Darcis on Belgium team.

Deboogle!.
09-13-2005, 11:20 PM
Blake's clay record is comparatively WAY better than Ginepri's. At least James has won ONE best-of-5 match on clay before :lol:

keqtqiadv
09-15-2005, 12:18 AM
Gah, they could do a match to decide, or use a coin (head or tales). Anyway, if I were the capitain, Blake is my choice
(I am still waiting for a day when a singles player gets injured and a Bryan needs to play singles)

Fergie
09-15-2005, 12:21 AM
James, I guess ...

AndyMurray
09-16-2005, 06:42 PM
McEnroe said he's not going to say for sure until the day before... I guess he wants to watch them practise on the dirt first :)

Deboogle!.
09-16-2005, 10:49 PM
Well, that's certainly understandable :)

Margy
09-19-2005, 07:41 AM
(I am still waiting for a day when a singles player gets injured and a Bryan needs to play singles)

Bob won the NCAA Singles Title when he was at Stanford in addition to winning the NCAA doubles title with his brother the same year.

fedpras
09-19-2005, 06:58 PM
The way Roddick has been playing recently, maybe PMac's better off just picking Blake and Ginepri for both singles positions.

Leo
09-20-2005, 04:55 AM
Blake's clay record is comparatively WAY better than Ginepri's. At least James has won ONE best-of-5 match on clay before :lol:

Although that was only against Dent, not exactly a clay court genius. ;) Having said that, I think Ginepri actually did lose to Dent on clay one year. :lol:

I agree that Blake would be the wiser choice based on his past clay record. I think that's who PMac picked...

Lee
09-20-2005, 06:16 AM
I believe Ginepri's game is better on clay than Blake but the most important thing is, does he believe that?

fedpras
09-20-2005, 01:44 PM
Wow, lookit all these helpful suggestions from the Roddick haters who want to see the US DC team lose. :lol:

Are you referring to what I said?
I wasn't completely joking. I mean, none of these guys (Roddick, Blake, and Ginepri) are very good on clay. They all lost in the first two rounds of the French Open this year. The difference is that Blake and Ginepri have a lot of confidence going into this week, while Roddick doesn't. I don't think it's totally ridiculous to suggest that maybe Roddick shouldn't play this week and that the other two should.

avocadoe
09-20-2005, 02:09 PM
Are you referring to what I said?
I wasn't completely joking. I mean, none of these guys (Roddick, Blake, and Ginepri) are very good on clay. They all lost in the first two rounds of the French Open this year. The difference is that Blake and Ginepri have a lot of confidence going into this week, while Roddick doesn't. I don't think it's totally ridiculous to suggest that maybe Roddick shouldn't play this week and that the other two should.
It's not ridiculous but won't happen, PMac wouldn't even entertain the thought. Your avatar is :cool: How did they get all those shadows in one picture :confused:

Deboogle!.
09-20-2005, 03:51 PM
I think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that someone who has won TWO clay matches - against Mardy Fish and Jon van Lottum - should play instead of someone who, while maybe not the best clay record, but someone who HAS won five titles and at least a few best-of-5 matches on clay. It's not even close IMO. Especially considering what Andy has done for Davis Cup in the past few years and how he's time and time again made himself available to play wherever and whenever and whoever the US is playing. No matter what else is ever going on with him and his form, he always puts his best effort forward in Davis Cup - surely even people who don't like him can recognize and respect that.

Leo, James's win at RG this year was over Tenconi in straight sets (he beat Dent in 2003). James's clay record (at the ATP level, not including the 2 challengers he won this year) is 18-20 I believe, Robby's is 2-11. Plus James has made it to the second round every time he's played RG, actually. He's never lost 1st round there lol. And he's played Davis Cup matches on clay before, too, and has made the QF at a clay Masters event. So James clearly has the edge in clay, and davis cup, experience, but I'm sure if Robby has a fantastic practice week that he will play instead.

Socket
09-20-2005, 04:49 PM
All three of the US singles players are lousy on clay. The only difference is the degree of lousiness, from "pretty lousy" to "really, really lousy." If everybody is healthy, then P-Mac should just go with how they're currently ranked, which has the virtue of being an objective standard.

It's too late for P-Mac to nominate Michael Chang, isn't it?

Angle Queen
09-20-2005, 05:11 PM
(I am still waiting for a day when a singles player gets injured and a Bryan needs to play singles)
Bob won the NCAA Singles Title when he was at Stanford in addition to winning the NCAA doubles title with his brother the same year.It's already happened...well not the injury part. BOB Bryan actually won one of the rubbers in the USA's 2-3 loss to Croatia. Granted, it was a dead one and to no one of real consequence...but he still played admirably.

Bob BRYAN (USA) d. Roko KARANUSIC (CRO) 6-2, 3-6, 6-1

WOOT WOOT to Bob!

Deboogle!.
09-20-2005, 09:30 PM
Bob has been asked several times about playing singles. Once someone even asked if he realized he could probably be a top 50 singles player with his serve, return, and volleying alone, forgetting a ground game (of which his isn't too great really).. he said he consciously chose to play with his brother because he likes it, not because he's not good enough. So yeah, Bob is definitely capable of playing singles :)

NyGeL
09-21-2005, 04:17 PM
Bob won the NCAA Singles Title when he was at Stanford in addition to winning the NCAA doubles title with his brother the same year.

lol, even I can win that college tournament :p

anyway, I have no doubt that Bryan can be good on singles playing serve and volley... but on clay? hah

I think that Blake should play instead of Ginepri, he is far better and have a better tennis style that helps him to play on clay.

in the other hand... ginepri might play in roddicks place hahaha

GO BELGIUM!!! GO ROCHUS!!!!

Deboogle!.
09-21-2005, 05:55 PM
Well it's a moot point, Robby didn't even go to Belgium.
-----------------------------------
U.S. Davis Cup Lineup To Be Roddick, Blake

By Andre Christopher
09/22/2005

James Blake will be the U.S. Davis Cup team No. 2 when the draw is made Thursday for the Davis Cup World Group Playoff tie between the United States and Belgium. It’s not that Blake outperformed Robby Ginepri during the week of practice in Leuven. Quite simply, Blake made the trip.

In an unexpected — if not unusual — set of events, Ginepri took himself out of consideration for the No. 2 singles slot on the U.S. team in order to further prepare for the remainder of the season and recover from a breakthrough U.S. Open in which he reached his first Grand Slam tournament semifinal. During the Open, U.S. Captain Patrick McEnroe announced a squad of U.S. No. 1 Andy Roddick, Blake, Ginepri and Bryan twins Bob and Mike, the U.S. Open men’s doubles champions.

Blake and Ginepri earned their places on the squad with outstanding play during the summer, followed by remarkable performances at the U.S. Open. But in naming his squad for this Sept. 23-25 tie, which will determine whether the United States remains in the prestigious Davis Cup World Group or drops into zonal play, McEnroe said that he would not have Blake and Ginepri play a challenge match for the position. So with both players having played deep into the second week of the U.S. Open (Blake was a quarterfinalist), they questioned between themselves the merit of going from the summer-long North American hard courts to slow, indoor red clay for a week (which is what the Belgians have chosen for Davis Cup) and back to to hard courts — eventually, even, fast indoor carpet.

The players called McEnroe last weekend and asked who he would pick for the team if he had to make a decision right then. Based on their clay court records this year — Blake is 21-2, including exhibition tournaments and challengers; Ginepri is 4-5 including exhibition tournaments and qualifying — McEnroe said he would have to go with Blake. Ginepri said he would stay home, though remain willing to fly to Belgium in a pinch if injury demanded it.

“I understood,” McEnroe said at the end of practice in Leuven on Wednesday. “Look, they both had great summers. It would have been tough to come here, practice all week and then not play.”

So all that remains is to see whether Blake will open this weekend’s tie against Belgian No. 1 Olivier Rochus or if Roddick against Christophe Rochus will be the first match. The draw will be held at Leuven City Hall at 12:30 local time on Thursday.

sergiodc
09-21-2005, 07:12 PM
Pat should pick Andre always specially on clay! but if he can't play James Blake should be the one.


It's simple... Ginepri or Blake? Who's it to be?

shotgun
09-21-2005, 09:14 PM
I hope USA wins this tie. I just can't cope with the idea of them crossing with Brazil in the Americas Group next year.