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Winner's Wednesday

Horatio Caine
09-06-2005, 07:00 PM
Hey guys.

I'm liking both the underdogs to win these matches (Coria @ 2.25 and Agassi @ 1.90).

Coria has experience at the latter stage of slams unlike Ginepri...thinking Ginepri might choke a little. Coria won't make it easy for him either and Ginepri will have to play very well to win. He was also let off the hook by Gasquet who struggled with injury, otherwise he might not have progressed.

Agassi is one of the most, if not THE most, experienced players out there. Blake, like Ginepri, has never seen this far of a slam....he will have to repeat his Nadal performance to progress and, judging by his match yesterday, he seems to have slowed down somewhat and was a little lucky. Agassi seems to think his body will hold up so I expect pretty much the usual from him...which should be just about enough. Also, Blake has had such a whirlwind couple of weeks...it will eventually blow itself out.

Any thoughts? ;) :p

adee-gee
09-06-2005, 09:35 PM
I haven't seen the odds yet, are you seriously telling me Agassi is the dog against Blake? Thats utter madness. I agree with you about Coria as well too. I think my eyes are deceiving me with those odds, let me go check it out :eek:

adee-gee
09-06-2005, 10:27 PM
Loving the 2.50 on Coria I found. And the 1.90 on Agassi. 2 big singles, plus throwing them into a parlay at close to 5.00 :eek:

A fantastic betting opportunity, simply not to be missed. Tomorrow will be wonderful Wednesday

gravity
09-06-2005, 10:31 PM
Agassi was odds against earlier :p I definitely like the look of Coria's price.

gravity
09-06-2005, 10:31 PM
*cough* Agassi is still 2.04 on betfair.

adee-gee
09-06-2005, 10:36 PM
*cough* Agassi is still 2.04 on betfair.

Once you include the commision it brings down the odds to closer to what the bookies are offering. I stopped using betfair, the commision began to frustrate me :)

gravity
09-06-2005, 10:42 PM
Yeah the commission can be a killer you need to keep a check on oddschecker. But it's useful to trade a position especially with the tempremental women capable of winning the first set 6-1 then losing the next two 0-6, 0-6.

adee-gee
09-06-2005, 10:51 PM
Yeah the commission can be a killer you need to keep a check on oddschecker. But its useful to trade a position especially with the tempremental women capable of winning the first set 6-1 then losing the next two 0-6, 0-6.

I try and stay away from WTA if the match isnt on tv, it kills me watching break after break on a scoreboard. In fact, I try to stay away from the WTA full stop, unless I see a particularly good price, like Dementieva the other night or Venus tonight. If the match is on tv, I would usually follow the live betting prices, you can usually get good odds if someone is down a break.

MalmöKrampan
09-06-2005, 10:59 PM
LOL at backing Coria.

The man plays claytennis on HC.. :rolleyes:

On the other hand Ginepri is a mediocre player so this match is 50-50, value on king Coria

MalmöKrampan
09-06-2005, 11:05 PM
A. Agassi Statistics 2005
Surface Hard
30-6

J. Blake Statistics 2005
Surface Hard
19-13

VAMOS AGASSI :worship:

adee-gee
09-06-2005, 11:13 PM
Don't tell me I'm agreeing with people on this board. This is bad news :(

George_Hanson
09-07-2005, 12:26 AM
Coria @ 2,50 is a good bet

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 12:33 AM
I'm surprised people are so quick to go for Coria and Agassi. Did many of you watch their matches yesterday?

Ginepri/Coria: If anybody's bound to make loads of mistakes, it's the Argentine. He double-faulted more than 20 times against Massu alone. It's telling enough, in fact, that he had to work so hard against the Chilean just to come out on top. Quite arguably, Coria was lucky that Massu lost his nerve. A better, more consistent, less tempermental and more determined Ginepri will be extremely tough for THIS Coria to beat. And, as you'll all have noted over the course of the hard court season, Coria is another fickle player. These days you can rarely rely upon him to win with much conviction, especially a few matches into a tournament.

Agassi/Blake: So what if Agassi has that fantastic hard court record? Most of that was earned yesterday. He's 35 now! More importantly, he IS very vulnerable, and indeed very beatable, if only the opponent can keep on top of things. For example, yesterday he folded a two set lead to Malisse, who hasn't been playing even close to how Blake has. The best example of Agassi being exposed was when he faced Nadal at the Roger's Cup in Montreal. Simply, he couldn't keep up. Blake similarly will just outrun him and outhit him, consistently, until it's over.

That neither Blake nor Ginepri have been to the semis of a Grandslam before is, too, irrelevant. In all likelihood this'll just make them even more determined. They're not the sort to be affected by nerves in the same way that, say, a Verdasco would. It'd be very naive to just assume that they'd face similar problems just due to such superficial reasoning.

Of course, anything could (and probably will) happen, though I feel very confident that Wednesday will be Ginepri & Blake day.

bad gambler
09-07-2005, 12:36 AM
you could easily be mistaken thinking ginepri is the new federer with the type of odds this guy has been getting over the past couple of week :rolleyes:

George_Hanson
09-07-2005, 12:38 AM
you could easily be mistaken thinking ginepri is the new federer with the type of odds this guy has been getting over the past couple of week :rolleyes:

exactly,

Ginepri 1,6 - Coria 2,5

you dont see that quite often, do you? I was stunned. Maybe Guille looses, but odds are generous enough

Ale10
09-07-2005, 12:39 AM
I think the J-Block will celebrate tomorrow.

George_Hanson
09-07-2005, 12:43 AM
I think the J-Block will celebrate tomorrow.

I think they will be celebrating going back to Connecticut, but it should be a close one

its.like.that
09-07-2005, 01:14 AM
If Blake doesn't beat Agassi he should retire.

Malisse had Agassi, but Malisse is just... well, Malisse.

Mistaflava
09-07-2005, 02:18 AM
Here is one of my largest wagers of the year


Andre Agassi over James Blake -105 for $2300



Good Luck to all!

its.like.that
09-07-2005, 02:20 AM
Here is one of my largest wagers of the year


Andre Agassi over James Blake -105 for $2300



Good Luck to all!


GSM BLAKE

nice to see James making it through to the final.

CYA Andre, nob.

Ale10
09-07-2005, 02:21 AM
GSM BLAKE

nice to see James making it through to the final.

CYA Andre, nob.

The Swiss Master is the only one who could beat James right now.

Mistaflava
09-07-2005, 02:24 AM
not really...you guys and the entire world are going to be on James and it will all come crashing down. Andre can handle just about anything thrown his way, including the red-hot James Blake. Enjoy the cash burning boys...I am dropping the A-Bomb on Andre. Should be fun collecting my cash.

Ale10
09-07-2005, 02:25 AM
not really...you guys and the entire world are going to be on James and it will all come crashing down. Andre can handle just about anything thrown his way, including the red-hot James Blake. Enjoy the cash burning boys...I am dropping the A-Bomb on Andre. Should be fun collecting my cash.

Money on Andre so far.

On Andre: Ł53 368
On James: Ł15 023

(@ BF)

sports freak
09-07-2005, 02:25 AM
The Swiss Master is the only one who could beat James right now.

Another words James is the only one that can take a set off the Swiss Master in a GS Final!!! ;)

James Blake will play Fed Express in the U.S. Open Final!!!no doubt,and dont forget the reciept to prove it!!! ;)

sports freak
09-07-2005, 02:27 AM
Agassi doesnt want another hiding in the final therefor he will leave it up to Blake to face the mighty ONE!!!

Mistaflava
09-07-2005, 02:29 AM
well good luck gentlemen...I am in full College Football and NFL mode right now but since there are no games tomorrow night, I am dropping one last big bomb on tennis and Andre will show me the money.

its.like.that
09-07-2005, 02:41 AM
well good luck gentlemen...I am in full College Football and NFL mode right now but since there are no games tomorrow night, I am dropping one last big bomb on tennis and Andre will show me the money.

:wavey:

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:05 AM
I'm surprised people are so quick to go for Coria and Agassi. Did many of you watch their matches yesterday?

Ginepri/Coria: If anybody's bound to make loads of mistakes, it's the Argentine. He double-faulted more than 20 times against Massu alone. It's telling enough, in fact, that he had to work so hard against the Chilean just to come out on top. Quite arguably, Coria was lucky that Massu lost his nerve. A better, more consistent, less tempermental and more determined Ginepri will be extremely tough for THIS Coria to beat. And, as you'll all have noted over the course of the hard court season, Coria is another fickle player. These days you can rarely rely upon him to win with much conviction, especially a few matches into a tournament.

Agassi/Blake: So what if Agassi has that fantastic hard court record? Most of that was earned yesterday. He's 35 now! More importantly, he IS very vulnerable, and indeed very beatable, if only the opponent can keep on top of things. For example, yesterday he folded a two set lead to Malisse, who hasn't been playing even close to how Blake has. The best example of Agassi being exposed was when he faced Nadal at the Roger's Cup in Montreal. Simply, he couldn't keep up. Blake similarly will just outrun him and outhit him, consistently, until it's over.

That neither Blake nor Ginepri have been to the semis of a Grandslam before is, too, irrelevant. In all likelihood this'll just make them even more determined. They're not the sort to be affected by nerves in the same way that, say, a Verdasco would. It'd be very naive to just assume that they'd face similar problems just due to such superficial reasoning.

Of course, anything could (and probably will) happen, though I feel very confident that Wednesday will be Ginepri & Blake day.

Im starting to get shit scared now,2nd time i actually full on agree wit you!!!good luck mate!!! :rolleyes: ;)

sports freak
09-07-2005, 04:00 AM
Another good option for Blake vs Agassi is layin either player not to in straight sets,another words minimum of a 4 setter is most likely!!!Cant see either player sweeping each other up!!!This could also apply wit the Ginepri vs Coria game aswell!!in sayin all that i feel Blake wins in 4 tight ones and the same goes wit Ginepri in another tight 4 set encounter!!!

Bolar Bolabi
09-07-2005, 04:50 AM
If I have a bet, it's with Agassi.

sports freak
09-07-2005, 04:58 AM
GSM BLAKE

nice to see James making it through to the final.

CYA Andre, nob.

Jim its good to see Dre on your Power point system,just wondering if Coria is on it aswell cos i really do like Ginepri!!!waiting for the stars aligned then BOOM ready to pounce!!!! ;)

The One
09-07-2005, 04:58 AM
Tonights winners will be:

Ginepri in mostlikely straight sets, I know he is Robby Ginepri but ATM he is at least 3 times better on HC than Coria.

Pierce is on fire, although beating henin is nothing special on HC, the ease with which she did it shows she is in top form and Mauresmo will choke as usual!!

As for the night match, its 50/50 but Agassi is a champion, Blake is playing like a champion..staying away until close to the start of the match

For the moment playing Ginepri*Pierce @ $3.42!!

tony52
09-07-2005, 05:39 AM
Agassi in 4
Ginepri in 3

sports freak
09-07-2005, 06:25 AM
Best bet 20 units on Robby Ginepri 1.63 over Guille Coria!!!!!Here are the reasons

1.Hardcourter vs Claycourter although Guille isnt too bad on HC but obvisiouly prefers Red Clay 24/7!!
2.Ginepri serves are harder to break!!!
3.Better current form for Robby!!
4.Playin infront on big home crowd!!!
5.This games sounds fimiliar to Blake vs Robredo for some strange reason!!!

7 units on James Blake over Docter Dre- Even wit all his experience the Doc looks to be abit fatigued and not going as smoothly as first thought on the other hand the his opponent on the other side of the net is being possessed by a Tennis God and playing like a freak out of this world!!!Sorry Dre its time to move over and let the new GENERATION come through,i salute you for being an absolute CHAMPION!!!!

Breaker
09-07-2005, 06:47 AM
ATP Selections for tonight: http://forums.ozmium.com.au/showthread.php?p=85466#post85466

Good luck lads

LESAK
09-07-2005, 06:54 AM
Blake, Pierce and Ginepri....

flmmkrz
09-07-2005, 07:15 AM
I'm staying away from the Ginepri match, while I think Corias got the goods to take him down here he hasn't impressed me enough to make the play

I'm on Agassi but its a small play only because I think his health is an issue and Richie cost me enough with his injury I dont need to lose more on Agassi should his injury bug him enough to play poorly but not enough to quit. If he's good to go, hot or not Blake won't get past him imo.

The pick thats surprising me is everyone on Pierce. She's another one who has been hot but this is a step up in class to what Justine was playing (sadly) She can continue to bang away but Mauresmo will be game and for all you counting on the reliable Mauresmo choke, that's against better players later in the tourny. Routine win for Amelie.

bad gambler
09-07-2005, 07:16 AM
LOL at backing Coria.

The man plays claytennis on HC.. :rolleyes:

On the other hand Ginepri is a mediocre player so this match is 50-50, value on king Coria


:confused:

MalmöKrampan
09-07-2005, 07:59 AM
One play so far:

Davenport v Dementieva, over 18.5 games, 1.80

more to come.

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 08:02 AM
Mauresmo to beat the living hell out of Pierce has to be one of today's better options.

Hmmm, I've been watching Dementieva games over the course of the open. She's been really horrid, and her serve is unbelievably useless, especially the second! Lindsay should take it in straight sets, if not in straight games for at least one of those sets.

Finns4
09-07-2005, 08:03 AM
Another words James is the only one that can take a set off the Swiss Master in a GS Final!!! ;)

James Blake will play Fed Express in the U.S. Open Final!!!no doubt,and dont forget the reciept to prove it!!! ;)

Kiefer Bro ;)

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 08:04 AM
Kiefer Bro ;)
And Robby ;)

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 08:09 AM
It's funny, actually. Because of the lack of television coverage of tennis these days (in many countries, I suspect), few people will have a concrete memory of how extraordinarily close Ginepri came to beating Federer in the Cincinnati Masters two and a half weeks back. Most of y'all would've just seen the scoreline, noted that Ginepri lost, and never thought about it again. But where I live, for example, the match was televised. And, believe me, it was VERY close. Ginepri was only finally defeated when he choked on his final service game right at the end. Other than that, Fed only went a break up on him once in the whole game, that being the second set. Ginepri won the first set convicingly. He's very consistent!

skel1983
09-07-2005, 08:31 AM
It's funny, actually. Because of the lack of television coverage of tennis these days (in many countries, I suspect), few people will have a concrete memory of how extraordinarily close Ginepri came to beating Federer in the Cincinnati Masters two and a half weeks back. Most of y'all would've just seen the scoreline, noted that Ginepri lost, and never thought about it again. But where I live, for example, the match was televised. And, believe me, it was VERY close. Ginepri was only finally defeated when he choked on his final service game right at the end. Other than that, Fed only went a break up on him once in the whole game, that being the second set. Ginepri won the first set convicingly. He's very consistent!


What you saying Ginepri will beat Federer because of Cincinnati, I doubt it, i wouldn't call Ginepri consistant for one minute, if anything he is very inconsistant!! He is on a hot streak at the moment like he has been a couple of times in his career, but the end of this hard court swing i feel we will have the same Robby back on tour.

If he meets Federer in the final it hasn't got a hope.

Agassi is the bet tonight.

Tommy Robredo should of took out Blake, Andre in straight sets!!!!

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 09:03 AM
What you saying Ginepri will beat Federer because of Cincinnati
No. What I am saying is that Ginepri is another player who definitely and demonstrably has a chance against Fed.

I doubt it, i wouldn't call Ginepri consistant for one minute, if anything he is very inconsistant!!
My point not taken. I'm saying he's consistent RIGHT NOW. It doesn't matter what he's been throughout his career. Right now he is a consistent player, more so than whom you'd regard as being generally consistent players, and as long as that lasts, that's all that matters.

He is on a hot streak at the moment like he has been a couple of times in his career, but the end of this hard court swing i feel we will have the same Robby back on tour.Fact is, you're probably right. But once again, it doesn't matter. What matters, for betting purposes, is the present. Actually, you're point about Ginepri probably fading back to how he's always been, could probably be carried over onto James Blake too! But once again, it just doesn't matter. We have to focus on what's likely to happen right here and right now.

Tommy Robredo should of took out Blake, Andre in straight sets!!!!
Agassi and Robredo are totally different types of players. You can't make analogies like that. Fact is, if Agassi can drop two sets to Malisse, he can lose three to a hotter, more confident, more consistent player, and Blake is just that.

Blake took out Nadal in this tournament, and convincingly so. Nadal is a player who, after all, convincingly beat the aging Agassi just under a month ago. The only real question that remains, is how will the players match up this time?

Neither have got anything to lose. Agassi's been there and done that, and as for Blake, I'm sure he'd be pleased enough to go home having lost a quater final of a Grand Slam to the legend Andre Agassi. Nerves won't be a factor. Energy and stamina will.

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 09:05 AM
I don't think any of today's matches are sure bets, so will be sticking with Football

If anything, I would put some money on Davenport beating Elena 2-0, as no way she will let Elena off the hook with that serve

skel1983
09-07-2005, 09:11 AM
No. What I am saying is that Ginepri is another player who definitely and demonstrably has a chance against Fed.


My point not taken. I'm saying he's consistent RIGHT NOW. It doesn't matter what he's been throughout his career. Right now he is a consistent player, more so than whom you'd regard as being generally consistent players, and as long as that lasts, that's all that matters.

Fact is, you're probably right. But once again, it doesn't matter. What matters, for betting purposes, is the present. Actually, you're point about Ginepri probably fading back to how he's always been, could probably be carried over onto James Blake too! But once again, it just doesn't matter. We have to focus on what's likely to happen right here and right now.


Agassi and Robredo are totally different types of players. You can't make analogies like that. Fact is, if Agassi can drop two sets to Malisse, he can lose three to a hotter, more confident, more consistent player, and Blake is just that.

Blake took out Nadal in this tournament, and convincingly so. Nadal is a player who, after all, convincingly beat the aging Agassi just under a month ago. The only real question that remains, is how will the players match up this time?

Neither have got anything to lose. Agassi's been there and done that, and as for Blake, I'm sure he'd be pleased enough to go home having lost a quater final of a Grand Slam to the legend Andre Agassi. Nerves won't be a factor. Energy and stamina will.

Blake has been playing well, but it's going to be about how Blake plays, he played awesome against Nadal, but like you say this is a different game totally, Agassi is a good bet in my eyes

jayrhum
09-07-2005, 09:47 AM
I don't think any of today's matches are sure bets, so will be sticking with Football

If anything, I would put some money on Davenport beating Elena 2-0, as no way she will let Elena off the hook with that serve

Can't agree more. Can't make my mind with the guys but the technical opposition between Davenport and Dementieva is so one-sided on Hard that I have to bet.
A simple look at the head to head confirms that Dementieva is a toy for a fit Davenport (and that's the case during this USO) on hard court.

Lindsay to slap Elena 2-0 @ 1.48

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 09:52 AM
Can't agree more. Can't make my mind with the guys but the technical opposition between Davenport and Dementieva is so one-sided on Hard that I have to bet.
A simple look at the head to head confirms that Dementieva is a toy for a fit Davenport (and that's the case during this USO) on hard court.

Lindsay to slap Elena 2-0 @ 1.48

Yes, one look at their last match in the Masters last year says it all

Davenport b. Dementieva 6-1 6-0

bad gambler
09-07-2005, 10:00 AM
Can't agree more. Can't make my mind with the guys but the technical opposition between Davenport and Dementieva is so one-sided on Hard that I have to bet.
A simple look at the head to head confirms that Dementieva is a toy for a fit Davenport (and that's the case during this USO) on hard court.

Lindsay to slap Elena 2-0 @ 1.48


you sold me, i'm on it at $1.40

jayrhum
09-07-2005, 10:00 AM
Yes, one look at their last match in the Masters last year says it all

Davenport b. Dementieva 6-1 6-0

Dementieva was really exhausted entering the Masters last year (and it was indoors, even worse for her) so I don't expect this kind of trashing :)
Let's agree on a little 6-3 6-4 :cool:

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 10:07 AM
Dementieva was really exhausted entering the Masters last year (and it was indoors, even worse for her) so I don't expect this kind of trashing :)
Let's agree on a little 6-3 6-4 :cool:

6-3 6-3 and that is my last offer

jayrhum
09-07-2005, 10:09 AM
6-3 6-3 and that is my last offerDeal :cool:

MalmöKrampan
09-07-2005, 10:09 AM
Let's agree on a little 6-3 6-4 :cool:


Fair enough for my OVER 18.5 games :D :wavey:

MalmöKrampan
09-07-2005, 10:09 AM
6-3 6-3 and that is my last offer

:mad: :p

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 10:19 AM
Fair enough for my OVER 18.5 games :D :wavey:

I don't know about this one...I thought her game with Dechy will be at least 18 games and then she just destroyed Natalie...

garylanders
09-07-2005, 10:20 AM
Ginepri v Coria@2.50 4%

Even though I think Blake will win over Agassi 1.90 isnt what I expected so Ill pass on that one. Thought that I would get at least 2.15 on Blake.

/GL

MalmöKrampan
09-07-2005, 11:03 AM
I don't know about this one...I thought her game with Dechy will be at least 18 games and then she just destroyed Natalie...

On a good day, Dementieva is capable of winning 7 games against Davenport. One of the reasons is that Dementieva got better fitness than Daven, altho Daven got her beat on everything else. 6-4, 6-3 VAMOSSSSS

MalmöKrampan
09-07-2005, 11:05 AM
I don't know about this one...I thought her game with Dechy will be at least 18 games and then she just destroyed Natalie...


BTW, Dementiva is a class above Dechy ;)

SwiSha
09-07-2005, 12:00 PM
Coria over Ginepri ...i wouldn t even say it s a 50/50 match ..i like Coria in this one his style of playin will not be good for ginepri who was struggling the earlier 2 rounds vs Haas who was the better player overall and richy who was just really unfit and unexperienced in the fourth set @ 3-1...the odds are too good to say no too...lets face it Ginepri is still a overrated player and i definetely can see an upset right here

Blake and Agassi...i favor Blake but i will stay away from this one ..Tommy had a excellent gameplan and it was him giving the match to James and changing momentum @ 6-4 5*-3 with 2 Df and 2 UE to give the break back ...not James taking over...so this is something what makes me a lil bit uncertain bout Blake who was lookin very frustrated the 1 1/2 sets..so i ll stay away

olix
09-07-2005, 12:58 PM
I'm sorry I didn't see the Agassi - Nadal match, I guess that one would have helped me decide between the two baldy-men :)

Bolar Bolabi
09-07-2005, 01:15 PM
Agassi V Blake over 41 games?

Ginepri V Coria over 41 games?

jayrhum
09-07-2005, 01:43 PM
Ok I've decided to back Amélie mélo Mauresmo.

She's fast and has a great variety of shots to counter the only heavy-hitting Pierce. I'm not scared of the usual choke from Amélie in Slams as she owns her compatriot. The head to head shows that Mauresmo leads 4-2, winning very easily the last 4 in straight sets each time.
Therefore, she'll come on the court with a psychological edge, great confidence... and that's when she's the best.

GOGOGOGOGO Mauresmo @ 1.70

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 01:49 PM
Ok I've decided to back Amélie mélo Mauresmo.

She's fast and has a great variety of shots to counter the only heavy-hitting Pierce. I'm not scared of the usual choke from Amélie in Slams as she owns her compatriot. The head to head shows that Mauresmo leads 4-2, winning very easily the last 4 in straight sets each time.
Therefore, she'll come on the court with a psychological edge, great confidence... and that's when she's the best.

GOGOGOGOGO Mauresmo @ 1.70

As long as Amelie doesn't remember that she is playing QF of a Grand Slam, you have a good chance

The One
09-07-2005, 01:49 PM
Ok I've decided to back Amélie mélo Mauresmo.

She's fast and has a great variety of shots to counter the only heavy-hitting Pierce. I'm not scared of the usual choke from Amélie in Slams as she owns her compatriot. The head to head shows that Mauresmo leads 4-2, winning very easily the last 4 in straight sets each time.
Therefore, she'll come on the court with a psychological edge, great confidence... and that's when she's the best.

GOGOGOGOGO Mauresmo @ 1.70

Good luck mate coz u will need it..trust me save your money or better still bet on Pierce and make some!! Pierce is smoking right now..she can beat anyone :angel:

Ale10
09-07-2005, 01:54 PM
Kuznetsova/Molik @1.55

jayrhum
09-07-2005, 01:55 PM
Good luck mate coz u will need it..trust me save your money or better still bet on Pierce and make some!! Pierce is smoking right now..she can beat anyone :angel:Don't worry mate :angel:

dbnumberone
09-07-2005, 02:08 PM
bet to win 5 units on ginepri - dude has been an absolute money train of late & I'm staying on board against Weasel "I got broke 4 times in the second v. Massu" coria
gl all!

sports freak
09-07-2005, 02:58 PM
Agassi V Blake over 41 games?

Ginepri V Coria over 41 games?

Bolar Agassi vs Blake over 41 games is absolute GOLD mate,take it and meet ya at the nearest teller for a recipt asap!!!! ;) Ginepri vs Coria overs is solid aswell
champ :yeah: :yeah:

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:00 PM
bet to win 5 units on ginepri - dude has been an absolute money train of late & I'm staying on board against Weasel "I got broke 4 times in the second v. Massu" coria
gl all!

Wit ya all the way champ,lets ride the money train all the way ;)

Bolar Bolabi
09-07-2005, 03:04 PM
Bolar Agassi vs Blake over 41 games is absolute GOLD mate,take it and meet ya at the nearest teller for a recipt asap!!!! ;) Ginepri vs Coria overs is solid aswell
champ :yeah: :yeah:

Yeah, I took it before. It's at $1.95

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:09 PM
Yeah, I took it before. It's at $1.95

Good stuff mate!!!! ;)

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 03:20 PM
Coria over Ginepri ...i wouldn t even say it s a 50/50 match ..i like Coria in this one his style of playin will not be good for ginepri who was struggling the earlier 2 rounds vs Haas who was the better player overall and richy who was just really unfit and unexperienced in the fourth set @ 3-1...the odds are too good to say no too...lets face it Ginepri is still a overrated player and i definetely can see an upset right here
Ginepri's overrated? Nah. People are just jumping on him while he's still hot. He's given them good reason to, also. Otherwise, most people aren't really thinking about Ginepri over the long haul.

Coria's overrated, if anything. People look at his ranking in the ATP singles race, and think he's a sure-fire bet in many matches. His ranking though, for the most part, was gathered on the dirt. What's helped him the most, in being so high up, were his finals in Monte Carlo and Rome. His recent hard court season though has been a catastrophe. Lost in straight sets to JC Ferrero, and then again in straight sets to Horna. Auckland, lost to Olivier Rochus. Marseilles, to Sebastien De Chaunac! Rotterdam, to Srichaphan! This guy is NOT a reliable hard courter! Don't be fooled. He struggled even against that other mediocre hard courter, Massu, who also had a shocking hard court run prior to the Open. I mean, the truth is, he was lucky just to have been in the fourth round. An easy first rounder against Gambill, a bye in the second after Novak folds, and a sitter against Wawrinka in the third. And then, he comes within inches of beating and totally humiliating Coria.

Look at Robby on the other hand. He's had a wonderful hard court season. He's been reliable and consistent throughout.

Don't bet on Coria today. Chances of him going through are PROBABLY slim. But who knows what might happen in the end?

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 03:25 PM
Bolar Agassi vs Blake over 41 games is absolute GOLD mate,take it and meet ya at the nearest teller for a recipt asap!!!! ;) Ginepri vs Coria overs is solid aswell
champ :yeah: :yeah:

If you think about it a minute, in order for either match to be over 41 games, this match has to be at least 4 sets and it has to be 4 long sets... 6-4 6-3 7-5 6-4, for example, is no good

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:27 PM
Ginepri's overrated? Nah. People are just jumping on him while he's still hot. He's given them good reason to, also. Otherwise, most people aren't really thinking about Ginepri over the long haul.

Coria's overrated, if anything. People look at his ranking in the ATP singles race, and think he's a sure-fire bet in many matches. His ranking though, for the most part, was gathered on the dirt. What's helped him the most, in being so high up, were his finals in Monte Carlo and Rome. His recent hard court season though has been a catastrophe. Lost in straight sets to JC Ferrero, and then again in straight sets to Horna. Auckland, lost to Olivier Rochus. Marseilles, to Sebastien De Chaunac! Rotterdam, to Srichaphan! This guy is NOT a reliable hard courter! Don't be fooled. He struggled even against that other mediocre hard courter, Massu, who also had a shocking hard court run prior to the Open. I mean, the truth is, he was lucky just to have been in the fourth round. An easy first rounder against Gambill, a bye in the second after Novak folds, and a sitter against Wawrinka in the third. And then, he comes within inches of beating and totally humiliating Coria.

Look at Robby on the other hand. He's had a wonderful hard court season. He's been reliable and consistent throughout.

Don't bet on Coria today. Chances of him going through are PROBABLY slim. But who knows what might happen in the end?


Tell me somebody hasnt drugged me,im beginning to agree wit you more and more,dont know if thats good?? :rolleyes:

its.like.that
09-07-2005, 03:27 PM
Jim its good to see Dre on your Power point system,just wondering if Coria is on it aswell cos i really do like Ginepri!!!waiting for the stars aligned then BOOM ready to pounce!!!! ;)

I'm not sure if they're fully aligned tonight... But Ginepri's horoscope foresees big successes for him.

:p

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 03:27 PM
Is there anywhere that offers a bet that Coria will thump someone at the end of the match or during it?

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:28 PM
Agassi V Blake over 41 games?

Ginepri V Coria over 41 games?

Here it is,BANK it!!!!

15 units on Blake vs Agassi over 41 games!!
10 units on Ginepri vs Coria over 41 games!! :yeah: :yeah:

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:32 PM
I'm not sure if they're fully aligned tonight... But Ginepri's horoscope foresees big successes for him.

:p

Loving it more Jim,cheers champ :yeah: !!!!Go Robby and a personal good luck to James!!! ;)

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:35 PM
If you think about it a minute, in order for either match to be over 41 games, this match has to be at least 4 sets and it has to be 4 long sets... 6-4 6-3 7-5 6-4, for example, is no good

I see a definete 4 setter wit a couple of tie breakers!!!!! ;)

its.like.that
09-07-2005, 03:40 PM
Ginepri @ 1.65 for me

its.like.that
09-07-2005, 03:42 PM
I see a definete 4 setter wit a couple of tie breakers!!!!! ;)

I hope you guys get your 41 games worth :).

sports freak
09-07-2005, 03:50 PM
I hope you guys get your 41 games worth :).

Cheers champ to be honest cant see either of the 4 players playin 2nite winning in straight sets,if there was one it most likely would be Ginepri!!!! ;)

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 04:03 PM
Is there anywhere that offers a bet that Coria will thump someone at the end of the match or during it?
LOL

Coria's pretty cool, actually. At least that's the impression I get. I mean, he is tempermental, but that's only with his racquet ;). Massu wanted to go at it with him the other day, and Coria responded verbally, never looking interested in getting in a fist fight or anything.

Hopefully there WILL be a bet on something like "Massu to thump Coria the next time they play". A solid futures bet. Add it to a parlay ;).


Oh, and good luck for all those who went for the > 41 games in both of today's quaters. I'm not too sure either of them will get that much, but at least one of them is probably bound to - most likely the Agassi/Blake-er.

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 04:17 PM
About value, I think Clijsters is excellent against Sharapova, at anything about 1.50

She really should win this match.

jetsetdrive
09-07-2005, 04:25 PM
Taking Mauresmo at 1.57 X Davenport at 1.33 to win 2-0.

I'm confident on Ginepri, although value is with Coria and I don't how this match will go. I think Blake will win too, but that for me is 50/50.

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 04:44 PM
Taking Mauresmo at 1.57 X Davenport at 1.33 to win 2-0.

I'm confident on Ginepri, although value is with Coria and I don't how this match will go. I think Blake will win too, but that for me is 50/50.
Mauresmo and Davenport are great bets. Davenport in straights? Have to agree with you. Indecisive as to whether or not it's for me to bet on, though.

Admittedly I'm a little doubtful about the Pierce/Mauresmo match. I think it'll end up being a lot closer than what some might imagine. Pierce ain't no walkover.


Speaking of value, Clijsters to take Sharapova in straight sets is going at 2.50 on William Hill. That looks good, if anything ever did. Venus took at set off Kimmy because of her massive hitting. Sharapova couldn't outhit Clijsters even if she took roids ;).

Ale10
09-07-2005, 05:11 PM
Fucking unbelievable.

Kuznetsove/Molik wasted a 0-40 at the end of the 2nd, then got broken. Now they wasted a 15-40. :mad:

Ale10
09-07-2005, 05:25 PM
They wasted 2 BP again, now 7 in a row...

Bitches.

adk
09-07-2005, 05:32 PM
Ginepri (4 units)

Blake (3 units)

dbnumberone
09-07-2005, 06:17 PM
Taking BGs tip & throwing down 4 units on Kim to Win
Edit - the tourney

its.like.that
09-07-2005, 06:30 PM
pierce looking good 5-2* first set

Ale10
09-07-2005, 06:57 PM
Mary is teaching Momo.

jayrhum
09-07-2005, 07:20 PM
Good luck mate coz u will need it..trust me save your money or better still bet on Pierce and make some!! Pierce is smoking right now..she can beat anyone :angel:Well you warned me. :)

Ok so no problemo Amélie. Heal your pain.

I'm going on under 21.5 games in Davenport match.

Under 21.5 games @ 1.80 Betfair

This odd is just crazy.

dbnumberone
09-07-2005, 07:21 PM
lotta late money on Coria
(sorry for format) Ginepri from -180 to -160 at wsex, -169 to -149 at pinnacle

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 10:40 PM
Unlucky Coria backers. I hope you watched that match, though. Not for any reason other than that it was, quite simply, the most amazing match of this tournament so far, bar none!

Congrats to all us (VERY VERY lucky and fortunate) Ginepri backers. Had Coria been just a LITTLE more on his game, it would have been lights out Robby. Then again, it was because of the reason that Coria's been making so many errors that we backed him in the first place, right? ;)

olix
09-07-2005, 10:40 PM
I only saw the last set, but Coria was really impressive. Best set in the tournament so far. Too bad for his unreliable serve.

SwiSha
09-07-2005, 10:46 PM
Ginepri's overrated? Nah. People are just jumping on him while he's still hot. He's given them good reason to, also. Otherwise, most people aren't really thinking about Ginepri over the long haul.

Coria's overrated, if anything. People look at his ranking in the ATP singles race, and think he's a sure-fire bet in many matches. His ranking though, for the most part, was gathered on the dirt. What's helped him the most, in being so high up, were his finals in Monte Carlo and Rome. His recent hard court season though has been a catastrophe. Lost in straight sets to JC Ferrero, and then again in straight sets to Horna. Auckland, lost to Olivier Rochus. Marseilles, to Sebastien De Chaunac! Rotterdam, to Srichaphan! This guy is NOT a reliable hard courter! Don't be fooled. He struggled even against that other mediocre hard courter, Massu, who also had a shocking hard court run prior to the Open. I mean, the truth is, he was lucky just to have been in the fourth round. An easy first rounder against Gambill, a bye in the second after Novak folds, and a sitter against Wawrinka in the third. And then, he comes within inches of beating and totally humiliating Coria.

Look at Robby on the other hand. He's had a wonderful hard court season. He's been reliable and consistent throughout.

Don't bet on Coria today. Chances of him going through are PROBABLY slim. But who knows what might happen in the end?

no offence newtennisfan but i do really not care about a user who opens a thread with the title time to make some serious bucks and says henman to win the us open

and yes robby is overrated although he won this match it was once again coria who gave him this match with big time chokes in the 3rd and 5 th set..coria has one weakness and that is his serve ..to say that coria is more overrrated than ginepri .. i just take your name as an answer ..new to tennis ..

anyways congrats all ginepri backers and it was a fun match to watch :yeah:

The One
09-07-2005, 10:46 PM
Tonights winners will be:

Ginepri in mostlikely straight sets, I know he is Robby Ginepri but ATM he is at least 3 times better on HC than Coria.

Pierce is on fire, although beating henin is nothing special on HC, the ease with which she did it shows she is in top form and Mauresmo will choke as usual!!

As for the night match, its 50/50 but Agassi is a champion, Blake is playing like a champion..staying away until close to the start of the match

For the moment playing Ginepri*Pierce @ $3.42!!
YEEEESSSSSSSSSS!! Pierce was a gimmee!! Coria showed wat a competitior he is but the better player on HC eventually won!!!

As for tonite staying away from it but tipping Blake and goin for Agassi! Greed will kill us all!!

:haha:

SwiSha
09-07-2005, 10:47 PM
Then again, it was because of the reason that Coria's been making so many errors that we backed him in the first place, right? ;)

It was just his serve nothing more..he is the better player ..period

SwiSha
09-07-2005, 10:48 PM
YEEEESSSSSSSSSS!! Pierce was a gimmee!! Coria showed wat a competitior he is but the better player on HC eventually won!!!

As for tonite staying away from it but tipping Blake and goin for Agassi! Greed will kill us all!!

:haha:

great job on Pierce i really liked her too but i hadn t the guts to play her :yeah:

adk
09-07-2005, 10:54 PM
Ginepri (4 units) :banana:

Blake (3 units)

Haha way to go Coria... 2 double faults to lose the match after all that fighting. I feel for Coria backers, but happy to see the back of the little weasel.

Now just need Blake to overturn Dr. Dre :p

dbnumberone
09-07-2005, 11:09 PM
*phew* I posted, along w/ others, backing Ginepri b/c of Coria's suspect serve & damned if that wasn't what did him in - crazy finish.
I'll take my plus 5 units, go back in the Robby G. money train lounge car & just enjoy tonights match - no bet.
gl all

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 11:10 PM
no offence newtennisfan but i do really not care about a user who opens a thread with the title time to make some serious bucks and says henman to win the us open
No offense, but I really don't care for the criticisms of somebody so utterly lacking in mental aptitude and adeptness that he failed to realize that the Henman thread was a joke.

and yes robby is overrated
Perhaps you don't understand what overrated means. Overrated, is when the majority of spectators attribute merits to an individual that he doesn't deserve. Overrated, is when a player is rated too highly. Tell me, how the hell is this true in the case of Robby? He's one of the most disregarded, underrated players in the world today! Andy Murray, for heaven's sake, is generally rated better than Ginepri! Ginepri is in most people's minds a nobody. Almost none of us think that he's going to continue this amazing run. On the contrary, most of us see or suspect that his 15 minutes of fame will come to an end probably sometime around the end of this season. To put it simply... HE IS NOT OVERRATED! Hardly anybody thinks anything of him. He's rated just about right: as a player who is usually mediocre, but on temporarily hot form right now.

although he won this match it was once again coria who gave him this match with big time chokes in the 3rd and 5 th set..
It's because I'd seen him choke and screw up before, not only in this tournament but in the last two hard court tournaments he played, that I bet against him to begin with. If it weren't for him having DISPLAYED obvious vulnerabilities against Massu and others, I wouldn't have even considered betting against him.

coria has one weakness and that is his serve ..to say that coria is more overrrated than ginepri .. i just take your name as an answer ..new to tennis ..
Well, as has been established, Robby is well and truly NOT generally rated above what he deserves. Coria, on the other hand, is a player from whom the general crowd of spectators expect more than what he has accomplished this hard court season. Maybe calling him overrated per se is harsh, but if either of them are overrated by the general betting public, it would be Guillermo.

Seriously, I had no beef with you, but then you go ahead and get all rowdy. If you're upset about losing on Coria, that is, if you backed Coria, then please do yourself a favor, spare yourself any further embarrassment, and don't take it out on me. Thank you very much, sir.

adk
09-07-2005, 11:17 PM
Perhaps you don't understand what overrated means. Overrated, is when the majority of spectators attribute merits to an individual that he doesn't deserve. Overrated, is when a player is rated too highly. Tell me, how the hell is this true in the case of Robby? He's one of the most disregarded, underrated players in the world today! Andy Murray, for heaven's sake, is generally rated better than Ginepri! Ginepri is in most people's minds a nobody. Almost none of us think that he's going to continue this amazing run. On the contrary, most of us see or suspect that his 15 minutes of fame will come to an end probably sometime around the end of this season. To put it simply... HE IS NOT OVERRATED! Hardly anybody thinks anything of him. He's rated just about right: as a player who is usually mediocre, but on temporarily hot form right now.



Absolutely right mate

SwiSha
09-07-2005, 11:21 PM
Seriously, I had no beef with you, but then you go ahead and get all rowdy. If you're upset about losing on Coria, that is, if you backed Coria, then please do yourself a favor, spare yourself any further embarrassment, and don't take it out on me. Thank you very much, sir.

lol i did get all rowdy ? where ? :rolleyes:
all i m sayin that i do not care what u say thats it ..i m not mad about losing ..it happens and as a capper u have to deal with it

NewTennisFan
09-07-2005, 11:36 PM
lol i did get all rowdy ? where ? :rolleyes:
all i m sayin that i do not care what u say thats it ..i m not mad about losing ..it happens and as a capper u have to deal with it
I never asked you, or anybody else, to care about what I say. I simply expressed, in kind words, that my opinion about Ginepri and whether or not he's overrated, is different to yours. That's all.

sports freak
09-08-2005, 01:51 AM
Best bet 20 units on Robby Ginepri 1.63 over Guille Coria!!!!!Here are the reasons

1.Hardcourter vs Claycourter although Guille isnt too bad on HC but obvisiouly prefers Red Clay 24/7!!
2.Ginepri serves are harder to break!!!
3.Better current form for Robby!!
4.Playin infront on big home crowd!!!
5.This games sounds fimiliar to Blake vs Robredo for some strange reason!!!

7 units on James Blake over Docter Dre- Even wit all his experience the Doc looks to be abit fatigued and not going as smoothly as first thought on the other hand the his opponent on the other side of the net is being possessed by a Tennis God and playing like a freak out of this world!!!Sorry Dre its time to move over and let the new GENERATION come through,i salute you for being an absolute CHAMPION!!!!

Robby u absolute Ripper,thanks champ for fighting!!!!respect ;) :wavey:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: p.s go James :D

Ale10
09-08-2005, 02:45 AM
Master James is teaching Andre...uhm...how to play tennis. :lol:

its.like.that
09-08-2005, 02:48 AM
nice work Freak, still on fire as usual.

:D

sports freak
09-08-2005, 04:40 AM
Here it is,BANK it!!!!

15 units on Blake vs Agassi over 41 games!!
10 units on Ginepri vs Coria over 41 games!! :yeah: :yeah:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: Dont forget that reciept!!! ;)
7 units on Blake still pending!!!! :D come on James for that extra icing on the cake

dbnumberone
09-08-2005, 05:24 AM
just figured out robby today marked a full week of every day on the plus side on my posted tennis picks.
plus 17.5 units from last Thursday to today
Just felt like jinxing my streak ;)
Not bad for an amateur, lol

Yoel and co.
09-08-2005, 06:49 AM
Dementieva is baaaad for my business :mad:

No more tennis for me until Nalby wins the finals on Sunday :p

jayrhum
09-08-2005, 09:32 AM
Thought of the day: Blondes cost me money :lol:

jayrhum
09-08-2005, 09:32 AM
Now I laugh, yesterday I was far from laughing....

Mistaflava
09-08-2005, 12:30 PM
Here is one of my largest wagers of the year


Andre Agassi over James Blake -105 for $2300



Good Luck to all!



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