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Thursday - Money in da bank.....

LESAK
08-31-2005, 08:43 PM
Clement tb Murray!!!!!

Easy money at 2.2... :eek: :eek:

Yoel and co.
08-31-2005, 10:05 PM
LOL, that is not a game I would bet on... can easily go to 5 sets and then go either way (this time perhaps Murray will have one of his ears fall off in the fifth set, or something like that)

Yoel and co.
08-31-2005, 10:30 PM
My only bet with regards to this game is that it will reach 5 sets.

1 unit on Clement to win 3-2@ 5.00
1 unit on Murray to win 3-2@ 5.00

adee-gee
08-31-2005, 10:56 PM
You have to be kidding me. Murray is playing extremely well. Plus its gonna be on Friday anyway.

Novak to beat Massu 1.53. Adeegee guarantee. If Novak loses I'll pay for all your losing bets :p

Yoel and co.
08-31-2005, 10:59 PM
Novak to beat Massu 1.53. Adeegee guarantee. If Novak loses I'll pay for all your losing bets :p

Novak retired, Massu got a Walkover...

I think we can consider this as "Novak Loses", no? I will send you the list of my losing bets soon :p

adee-gee
08-31-2005, 11:07 PM
Crap I just read that, I'm sure the scummy bookies will keep my big stake and earn interest on it until tomorrow night when they give it back to me :rolleyes:

Looks like I'll have to find another big play to get on.

And yes, send me the list of your losing bets :lol:

adee-gee
08-31-2005, 11:30 PM
Murray-Clement isn't till Friday, OOP is now out

Ginepri will beat Muller tomorrow. I haven't got a price yet but I imagine it'll be quite decent

adee-gee
08-31-2005, 11:36 PM
Ok.....

Ginepri to beat Muller 1.66 (Bet of the day)
Grosjean to beat Tojo 1.72

Parlay Coria (1.28) x Malisse (1.25) x Ljubo (1.28) x Blake (1.36) = 2.80

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 12:57 AM
You won't get anything spectacularly good for it, but Ancic to beat Djokovic looks almost a lock. Djokovic was suffering against Monfils, and needed two long breaks in the last set to see the physio. He's clearly got problems with his upper arm or shoulder. He was lucky that Gael was just so bad towards the end. Ancic really should annihilate him.

If any dog bets are worth considering, Srichaphan over Davydenko is certainly one of them. Not saying the Thai will win, but Nikolay is a very uncertain player and is among the most likely of the big favorites to mess up.

Kiefer to beat Stepanek is tempting.

As for tomorrow's matches, then Blake's well worth it against Andreev.

Wawrinka might be worth a gamble against Puerta.

Berdych to beat Mello looks sound, though the price won't be anything to drool over.

The Gucci one
09-01-2005, 02:52 AM
After taking day 3 off today looks good for opportunities. Below are my early leanings

10 units on Lopez over Soderling at $1.71

Soderling had a good win over Chela in round 1 but usually struggles to back it up as evidenced by his 1st round wins in Montreal/Cincinatti over Mirnyi/Stepanek then next round losses against Hrbaty/O.Rochus.

2 units on Mello over Berdych at $4.65

Berdych is the favourite but Mellos value here is enormous.

1 unit on Spadea over Coria $3.65

Again another value bet

5 units on Ljubicic/Haas/Youzhny/Robredo over Saulnier/Schuettler/Bjorkman/Kuerten

at $2.69

2 units on Tian Tian Sun over Medina Garrigues at $4.00

value bet Sun took care of Stosur in straight sets and is in with a fair chance here.

5 units on Groenefeld/Mauresmo/Chakvetadze/Blake over Razzano/Karatantcheva/Craybas/Andreev at 2.32

Any advice on how I should structure my units on these plays would be appreciated as I'm only new at this.

betowiec
09-01-2005, 02:57 AM
You won't get anything spectacularly good for it, but Ancic to beat Djokovic looks almost a lock. Djokovic was suffering against Monfils, and needed two long breaks in the last set to see the physio. He's clearly got problems with his upper arm or shoulder. He was lucky that Gael was just so bad towards the end. Ancic really should annihilate him.

If any dog bets are worth considering, Srichaphan over Davydenko is certainly one of them. Not saying the Thai will win, but Nikolay is a very uncertain player and is among the most likely of the big favorites to mess up.

Kiefer to beat Stepanek is tempting.

As for tomorrow's matches, then Blake's well worth it against Andreev.

Wawrinka might be worth a gamble against Puerta.

Berdych to beat Mello looks sound, though the price won't be anything to drool over.

doesn't look like Kiefer is playing on Thursday

sports freak
09-01-2005, 03:14 AM
doesn't look like Kiefer is playing on Thursday

And i get crap for posting shit like that,i thought the bloke was on the ball??only problem is i do agree on the majority of his pics!!! :rolleyes:

Best bet of a day by a million miles has to be on Blake 1.36 over Andreev,they way James took care of Rusedski even i was amazed how comfortable the wins more then expected!!!!still lookin up some winners,back later to post!!!! ;)

sports freak
09-01-2005, 03:16 AM
Clement tb Murray!!!!!

Easy money at 2.2... :eek: :eek:

Like the sounds of that buddy!!!good luck wit it!!!!Arnaud to whoop his ass!!!! ;) but Yoel n Co does have a good point!!! :rolleyes:

Bolar Bolabi
09-01-2005, 03:20 AM
Ancic X Haas X Kiefer gives you $2.51

Ancic's odds with Centrebet is $1.33.

I'm liking Johansson to beat Grosjean aswell.

sports freak
09-01-2005, 03:31 AM
Ancic X Haas X Kiefer gives you $2.51

Ancic's odds with Centrebet is $1.33.

I'm liking Johansson to beat Grosjean aswell.

Solid parlay Bolar good luck wit it!!!looks really good mate!!!!also leaning on Tojo just cos he has more fight in him then Seba!!!!

Bolar Bolabi
09-01-2005, 04:00 AM
Haas and Kiefer will more than likely win in straight sets. Both tight.

Johansson I can see winning in 4 sets.

bad gambler
09-01-2005, 04:13 AM
put the house on muscles bobby ginepri, nailed on

Ginepri to beat Magic Muller - $1.60 (6 units)

good luck

The One
09-01-2005, 05:48 AM
Lopez * Blake * Puerta

My advice is not to follow these as this is wat I am betting on!

Has been a disastrous open so far :sad:

Dice
09-01-2005, 06:28 AM
why the hell is guga @ 3.45 ????? he destroyed goldstein .... had like 35 aces , 100 winners , 3.45 against robredo the choker ???? unreal , monster value , imo .

bad gambler
09-01-2005, 06:54 AM
Johansson to beat Grosjean - $1.88 (5 units)

good luck

Dice
09-01-2005, 07:20 AM
seems like i need a parlay @ 1.7 and dunno what to pick :s

Bolar Bolabi
09-01-2005, 07:27 AM
Johansson to beat Grosjean - $1.88 (5 units)

good luck

Glad someone is with me.

Johansson X Ancic has a very good parlay ring to it of about $2.50.

adk
09-01-2005, 07:28 AM
seems like i need a parlay @ 1.7 and dunno what to pick :s

Blake x Niemenen?

adk
09-01-2005, 07:41 AM
Blake x Ginepri @ 2.00 (3 units)

Niemenen x Youzhny x Haas @ 2.37 (2 units)


Blake x Ginepri x Niemenen x Youzhny x Haas @ 4.44 (1/2 unit)

dbnumberone
09-01-2005, 07:57 AM
Blake x Ginepri @ 2.00 (3 units)


i like that one, may just join ya!

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 08:15 AM
I was just moments away from placing Blake X Ginepri, when it occurred to me: Muller only beat Ginepri on hard court just over a month ago, and when he's on his game he can be dangerous. He's weak against a strong service game (like Roddick's), but on his own service he can be devastating. He managed something like 24 aces against Roddick on Tuesday.

I still like Ginepri for this match, but in light of Muller's performance, his confidence and the danger he poses when he's on his game, I'm just not confident enough that Ginepri will pull through. It'll likely be another three/four tiebreaks match.

If there's anything else I'd say in relation to other posts, it is that taking Mello over Berdych is a huge mistake.

Finns4
09-01-2005, 08:18 AM
Tojo 1.85 2units

Muller 2.60 1unit

Ancic x Niemenen tbc

WTA has been very nice to me last 2 days with 100% but in terms of value not much today.

Golovin over Smashnova @1.60 Smashnova hasnt had much much play on hard courts this year, one match which she lost. She had an easy first round win over Kloesel who is really a CLAY player only. Golovin leads h2d 2-0 that since 2004, they met in The OZ open 2004 anf Golovin won 6-2 6-2. Golovin has also had more hard court matches this year, though her form hasnt been unreal. Ill do some more research b4 i decide


Gotta take her with the $1.60

Back from work aint lookin to fab

Only took Muller 1 unit , Golovin 1unit and Medina Garrigues X Likhovtseva x Andre 1unit $2.01

Finns4
09-01-2005, 08:28 AM
I was just moments away from placing Blake X Ginepri, when it occurred to me: Muller only beat Ginepri on hard court just over a month ago, and when he's on his game he can be dangerous. He's weak against a strong service game (like Roddick's), but on his own service he can be devastating. He managed something like 24 aces against Roddick on Tuesday.

I still like Ginepri for this match, but in light of Muller's performance, his confidence and the danger he poses when he's on his game, I'm just not confident enough that Ginepri will pull through. It'll likely be another three/four tiebreaks match.

If there's anything else I'd say in relation to other posts, it is that taking Mello over Berdych is a huge mistake.


With you on Muller, the tennis he played was unreal, though roddick isnt in the best of form, say some people, to beat Roddick on hard and show that amazing tennis i think its worth a shot on him beating a in form Ginepri, I mean all the Pressure is on Ginepri not Muller

1 unit Muller 2.6

coup3z
09-01-2005, 09:07 AM
My bets for the day are:

Guga @ 4.00 :eek: worht a shot against unpredicatable Robredo, who lost to Hanescu in New Heaven, although Hanescu prefers clay, and look what the romanian did in the first round here :sad:

ToJo @ 1.90 is a better player on hard then Seba, and more of a fighter. He has a good serve, nice play from the back of the court and he already beat Grosjean this year on clay in straight sets :eek: , and let`s face it ToJo is kinda mediocre on clay !

Ivo Karlovic +7 @ 1.83 seems enough! Don't think that Agassi will win easy against tallest player in ATP Race, a player who serves like a god! At leat 1 or 2 tb!

Spadea @ 4.00 is also woth a shot! Coria on hard isn't convincing and the american will have the support from the public! He can produce an upset here!

sports freak
09-01-2005, 09:44 AM
My bets for the day are:

Guga @ 4.00 :eek: worht a shot against unpredicatable Robredo, who lost to Hanescu in New Heaven, although Hanescu prefers clay, and look what the romanian did in the first round here :sad:

ToJo @ 1.90 is a better player on hard then Seba, and more of a fighter. He has a good serve, nice play from the back of the court and he already beat Grosjean this year on clay in straight sets :eek: , and let`s face it ToJo is kinda mediocre on clay !

Ivo Karlovic +7 @ 1.83 seems enough! Don't think that Agassi will win easy against tallest player in ATP Race, a player who serves like a god! At leat 1 or 2 tb!

Spadea @ 4.00 is also woth a shot! Coria on hard isn't convincing and the american will have the support from the public! He can produce an upset here!

Good luck mate,nice plays you got there!!!Guga is definetely worth a shot aswell as Spadea who should have an advantage in the serving department!!Also like Tojo 2nite and Karlovic +7 seems ok value!!!

sports freak
09-01-2005, 09:46 AM
Blake x Niemenen?

Couldnt agree more!! ;)

bad gambler
09-01-2005, 09:49 AM
Johansson to beat Grosjean - $1.88 (5 units)

good luck

I'm upping the stake on this play, now that I have seen ToJo's price drift more

5 more units at $1.95

JMG
09-01-2005, 09:51 AM
2.70 Ashley/Kirkland
2.50 Rieschick over van Scheppingen
2.35 Fujiwara/Li
2.29 Grosjean x Arthurs/Hanley
2.20 Ginepri x Grönefeld
1.96 Coria x Malisse x Ljubicic

sports freak
09-01-2005, 10:02 AM
I'm upping the stake on this play, now that I have seen ToJo's price drift more

5 more units at $1.95

Hey BG can i send you a private message concerning public money flow,actually also need to send Jim a message aswell,which i have already forgot but will do!!!
Whoops good luck on Tojo 2nite aswell!!! ;)

sports freak
09-01-2005, 10:09 AM
Anybody like pretty boy Lopez 1.75 2nite?????actually got a strong lean on him,reason is that his better lookin then the Toad,just kidding man!!!Feli has done well lately and should take care of Soderling IMO!!!I'll take Lopez serve as a very slight advantage,returns of serve im not too sure but i do know Feli likes to get it back!!!Pretty boy is alot better mover and that is another reason i do like him over Robin!!!I did saw Lopez on telly at the Aust open against Joachim Johansson and what a cracker of a game that was!!!!thats why i have abit of respect for this talented young Spainard and think he can do the job 2nite over Soderling!!!!!!!any opinions are welcomed!!!!!

Yoel and co.
09-01-2005, 10:39 AM
Guga X Youzhny X Ljubo @ 5.6

Medina Garrigues X Chakvetadze X Dulko @ 1.86

Muller X Lopez X (Chi)Wawa X Smashnova @ Doubles

I also put very small money on two dogs which were just too tempting:

Sanchez Lorenzo to beat Henin @ 11

Karlovic to beat AA @ 6.5

Of these, perhaps Ivo has a chance, depending on how good is Baldy's return nowdays.

Games I won't touch - Tojo:Grosjean, Coria:Spadea and Haas:Rain man

GL all

sy_iceman
09-01-2005, 10:53 AM
i think i'm going to have a look at WTA today mens seem to hard to pick today.. waiting for KIEFFER tomorrow... can't wait.

SadrieL
09-01-2005, 10:57 AM
I'm upping the stake on this play, now that I have seen ToJo's price drift more

5 more units at $1.95

I have no idea about this match, but I will blindly follow you anyway :) Then I have someone to blame when I lose

bad gambler
09-01-2005, 11:16 AM
I have no idea about this match, but I will blindly follow you anyway :) Then I have someone to blame when I lose


I'm under the pump now eh?

Hey BG can i send you a private message concerning public money flow,actually also need to send Jim a message aswell,which i have already forgot but will do!!!
Whoops good luck on Tojo 2nite aswell!!! ;)

no worries mate, send away

Bolar Bolabi
09-01-2005, 11:18 AM
Tojo should win tonight. He's the bet of the night in my eyes and at those odds he's worth it.

its.like.that
09-01-2005, 11:19 AM
LOL... SEBBY IS THE WORD

bad gambler
09-01-2005, 11:20 AM
Tojo should win tonight. He's the bet of the night in my eyes and at those odds he's worth it.


now i am officially worried

Bolar Bolabi
09-01-2005, 11:29 AM
now i am officially worried

Hey, I chose Tojo earlier on so you can't blame me if he loses because in retrospect, you made your selection well after me.

Anyway, I won Monday and Tuesday nights. Had a downer last night and will rebound tonight with Tojo and another player yet to be decided, more than likely Ancic.

Ale10
09-01-2005, 11:49 AM
I will only play doubles in the first matches (start at 17:00PM CET)

Ashley/Kirkland @2.70

Douchevina/Peer @1.80

Ale10
09-01-2005, 12:08 PM
Fujiwara/Li @2.35

sy_iceman
09-01-2005, 12:12 PM
does anyone know how an aussie can bet inplay on betfair.

SadrieL
09-01-2005, 12:16 PM
I'm under the pump now eh?


I'm kidding! Maybe.

skel1983
09-01-2005, 12:41 PM
Clement tb Murray!!!!!

Easy money at 2.2... :eek: :eek:


I would love to know you i would have a big wager against that, Clement for me will have to be top of his game he hasn't got a big serve to start with, if he serves the way he did against JCF, I think around 44% 1st serves Murray will have a field day have you seen this boy return, his serve is dodgy at times, but if Clement serves anywhere like that i can see Murray having break points on every service game. I mean pavel was up at 62% and Murray had 18 break points, that works out at on average about 0.82 per game nearly 1 break oppurtunity per service game, i some how don't think it will be easy money, i can't see anything but a Murray victory, i feel he is still young so he might throw in a dodgy set, but for me he will have far to many oppurtumites to win this match.

I go for Murray in 4.

Good luck with Clement in my opinion you will need it.

$@M
09-01-2005, 12:43 PM
Anybody like pretty boy Lopez 1.75 2nite?????actually got a strong lean on him,reason is that his better lookin then the Toad,just kidding man!!!Feli has done well lately and should take care of Soderling IMO!!!I'll take Lopez serve as a very slight advantage,returns of serve im not too sure but i do know Feli likes to get it back!!!Pretty boy is alot better mover and that is another reason i do like him over Robin!!!I did saw Lopez on telly at the Aust open against Joachim Johansson and what a cracker of a game that was!!!!thats why i have abit of respect for this talented young Spainard and think he can do the job 2nite over Soderling!!!!!!!any opinions are welcomed!!!!!

Feli is a real risk to me! He has proven that he can lose to ANYONE on any given day, for example YOUNES ELAYNAOUI, who hasn't won a single match in the last 2 years until 3 weeks ago. Robin is no walk-over either, but if Feli can produce the same form he did at New Haven, then i think Feli can do it for you. Gd luck... btw, i'm not touching this one...

$@M
09-01-2005, 12:48 PM
Tojo is fading... i wouldn't bet on him... fancy Seb to come out winner in this match... should be an interesting match... so many people have been putting their faith in Tojo lately (inc. me), but he's proven me wrong more than twice in the recent weeks where i expected to him to perform better or go further into the tourney, eg. first round loss to Hrbaty at Cincy where he's seeded 13 and lost 6-1, 7-5 ~~~

Anyway, no bet for me on this one as well, only my PAW, which lean on Seb! Gd luck to those who prefers the risk, you shall be rewarded quite handsomely i'm sure, if he wins, that is... ;)

SadrieL
09-01-2005, 01:15 PM
but he's proven me wrong more than twice in the recent weeks where i expected to him to perform better or go further into the tourney, eg. first round loss to Hrbaty at Cincy where he's seeded 13 and lost 6-1, 7-5 ~~~


Hrbaty has 7-2 H2H against ToJo, you expected ToJo to win?

Bolar Bolabi
09-01-2005, 01:43 PM
Johansson X Youzhny

Nimrodg
09-01-2005, 01:44 PM
Berdych X Haas X Blake @ 2.13
Smashnova+3 X Guga X Chakvetadze@ 7.45

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 01:54 PM
Hrbaty has 7-2 H2H against ToJo, you expected ToJo to win?
This isn't really as important as the fact that Hrbaty had been playing far better for weeks on end. But yeah, relying on the SEEDINGS to form expectations of who's going to win, isn't really the way to go in tennis.

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 01:55 PM
A lot of people are saying Johansson. This one looks dangerous to me. Grosjean, after all, has the game to beat him. It might be worth it in a single, but as part of a parlay, I'm doubtful.

Mistaflava
09-01-2005, 02:04 PM
MistaFlava's US Open Thursday Selection

2005 US Open Record: 8-4 (+3.11 Units)



Feliciano Lopez -124 over Robin Soderling



Good Luck today guys, going big on this one.

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 03:18 PM
MistaFlava's US Open Thursday Selection

2005 US Open Record: 8-4 (+3.11 Units)



Feliciano Lopez -124 over Robin Soderling



Good Luck today guys, going big on this one.
Good luck with that. Personally, I think Soderling's going to win it. Not betting either way though. Hope for your sake that I'm wrong!

dbnumberone
09-01-2005, 04:06 PM
Bet to win 3 units on Ginepri

its.like.that
09-01-2005, 04:09 PM
does anyone know how an aussie can bet inplay on betfair.

that would be illegal my friend ;).

tennis_spider
09-01-2005, 04:24 PM
I like Soderling too but will bet live

tennis_spider
09-01-2005, 05:25 PM
why robby Fav today ??

adee-gee
09-01-2005, 05:43 PM
:lol: at all you lot on Tojo. You need your heads checked. Seb is going to rip him to bits

Ale10
09-01-2005, 06:25 PM
Groenefeld x Blake @1.85

its.like.that
09-01-2005, 06:25 PM
LOL... SEBBY IS THE WORD

and thank your mother for the rabbits.

$$$

:D

JMG
09-01-2005, 06:35 PM
come on Grosjean. :)

Bolar Bolabi
09-01-2005, 06:49 PM
Coria X Haas X Berdych

dbnumberone
09-01-2005, 06:52 PM
robby looking great
bet to win 1.5 units on blake, night match w/ the crowd, feeling pretty confident about that one
gl all

Ale10
09-01-2005, 06:52 PM
Navratilova/Paes @1.57

adk
09-01-2005, 07:31 PM
Blake x Ginepri @ 2.00 (3 units)

Niemenen x Youzhny x Haas @ 2.37 (2 units)


Blake x Ginepri x Niemenen x Youzhny x Haas @ 4.44 (1/2 unit)

For the record, my final plays were:

Blake x Ginepri @ 2.00 (3 units)

Niemenen x Youzhny x Davydenko @ 2.20 (2 units)

adee-gee
09-01-2005, 07:49 PM
Ok.....

Ginepri to beat Muller 1.66 (Bet of the day)
Grosjean to beat Tojo 1.72

Parlay Coria (1.28) x Malisse (1.25) x Ljubo (1.28) x Blake (1.36) = 2.80

Lads I'm really going to have to start charging for these tips.

If only someone would listen to me, you might start making a few bucks :rolleyes:

Cervantes
09-01-2005, 08:26 PM
Lads I'm really going to have to start charging for these tips.

If only someone would listen to me, you might start making a few bucks :rolleyes:

that sounds good, tomorrow I'll listen to you.

tennis_spider
09-01-2005, 08:27 PM
Lol.........iam against Ljubo

betowiec
09-01-2005, 09:01 PM
Vamos Feliciano, make me feliz

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 09:16 PM
Hold up... I just realized... somebody bet on Santoro to beat Federer!

To whoever that was, "good luck" won't cut it. You're gonna need a damn miracle!

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 09:18 PM
Lads I'm really going to have to start charging for these tips.

If only someone would listen to me, you might start making a few bucks :rolleyes:
I'm almost beginning to believe in you, oh adee. Though saying that, I too picked Grosjean ;). I doubted Ginepri though. And how wrong I was to do so.

bad gambler
09-01-2005, 09:48 PM
oh well, ToJo goes down, robby gets up

congrats to all the winners today

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 09:55 PM
And Waw about to beat Puerta, unless the Argentine can produce a miracle. Stranger things have happened... I think.

adee-gee
09-01-2005, 10:35 PM
I'm almost beginning to believe in you, oh adee. Though saying that, I too picked Grosjean ;). I doubted Ginepri though. And how wrong I was to do so.

:D

JMG
09-01-2005, 10:41 PM
Grosjean x Arthurs/Hanley

Ginepri x Grönefeld

Fujiwara/Li

Coria x Malisse x Ljubicic

Rieschick

Ashley/Kirkland

:D GROSJEAN! ;)

Yoel and co.
09-01-2005, 11:26 PM
LOL, damn what a bad day

none of my bets brought any money. The only win I had was (chi)wawa and he was part of a parlay that lost big time

oh, well

NewTennisFan
09-01-2005, 11:37 PM
LOL, damn what a bad day

none of my bets brought any money. The only win I had was (chi)wawa and he was part of a parlay that lost big time

oh, well
Hey, still got time to make it back (coughBETONBLAKE!cough)

Yoel and co.
09-01-2005, 11:42 PM
There is a bug with Willhill website - maximum bet on the Blake match - $0.00 :cool:

maksymdyzio
09-01-2005, 11:44 PM
NewTennisFan, I'm following Your picks and You rock! Thanks buddy :)

JMG is doing an amazing job as well...

NewTennisFan
09-02-2005, 12:48 AM
Gasquet irritates me immensely. I mean, come on. Galimberti isn't even a serious singles player. The way I've got it (if I'm correct), in all his 10 years as a pro he hasn't even played as many as thirty games in an ATP singles tournament. Why does Gasquet go through these stages of playing phenomenally well, and then suddenly looking like he'd struggle to get a game against Donald Young? He's an enigma.

NewTennisFan
09-02-2005, 01:29 AM
So Gasquet wins, Galimberti calls it a day...and it's voided as part of my parlay, because I did it with BLOODY WILLIAM HILL!

I'm sorry, but that rule is pathetic. If somebody retires right at the end of a match simply because they KNOW they have no chance of coming back and can't be bothered to keep fighting, then why the HELL should the bet be voided? If you forfeit, you forfeit! It's not like you've been forced out by injury while you're still in with a chance. This rule is total scummery, and William Hill should really change it.

At the same time, Ladbrokes go to the other extreme of giving wins to the player who progresses, even if the other player retired after as little as one point into the game.

Where do the two poles meet?

Ale10
09-02-2005, 01:38 AM
Galimberti was already injured at the start of the 4th set...

NewTennisFan
09-02-2005, 02:56 AM
Galimberti was already injured at the start of the 4th set...
As if he wouldn't have kept playing had the scoreline been different.

He was even injured against Donald Young. Had Young been clearly winning, you bet your ass Galimberti would've quit like... <insert appropriate word here>.

Regardless... the rule is ridiculous. If you're getting battered, and you then retire for whatever reason, you rightfully lost the match and the one who handicapped the other player to win should get his money. Ladbrokes and most other sportsbooks are better in that respect.

Though, saying that, it is extremely annoying when you have a parlay involving Lleyton Hewitt, he retires against Serra after a few games, and you lose the whole stake.

bad gambler
09-02-2005, 03:01 AM
So Gasquet wins, Galimberti calls it a day...and it's voided as part of my parlay, because I did it with BLOODY WILLIAM HILL!

I'm sorry, but that rule is pathetic. If somebody retires right at the end of a match simply because they KNOW they have no chance of coming back and can't be bothered to keep fighting, then why the HELL should the bet be voided? If you forfeit, you forfeit! It's not like you've been forced out by injury while you're still in with a chance. This rule is total scummery, and William Hill should really change it.

At the same time, Ladbrokes go to the other extreme of giving wins to the player who progresses, even if the other player retired after as little as one point into the game.

Where do the two poles meet?

it would be interesting to know whether you would feel the same way if your player that you backed pulled this stunt, with you getting your money back, i think not.

The rules are clear and have been for a long time with Willhill, and it works both ways, so no point kicking a fuss about it

Finns4
09-02-2005, 03:28 AM
Tojo 1.85 2units

Muller 2.60 1unit

Ancic x Niemenen tbc

WTA has been very nice to me last 2 days with 100% but in terms of value not much today.

Golovin over Smashnova @1.60 Smashnova hasnt had much much play on hard courts this year, one match which she lost. She had an easy first round win over Kloesel who is really a CLAY player only. Golovin leads h2d 2-0 that since 2004, they met in The OZ open 2004 anf Golovin won 6-2 6-2. Golovin has also had more hard court matches this year, though her form hasnt been unreal. Ill do some more research b4 i decide


Gotta take her with the $1.60

Back from work aint lookin to fab

Only took Muller 1 unit , Golovin 1unit and Medina Garrigues X Likhovtseva x Andre 1unit $2.01

Not a bad Day for me!! 100% OR 6-0 ON WTA THIS WEEK :eek: Now thats crazy

Ale10
09-02-2005, 03:34 AM
Ashley/Kirkland 4-6, 3-6
Douchevina/Peer 7-5, 5-7, 6-4
Fujiwara/Li 7-6(5), 6-3
Groenefeld 3-6, 6-3, 6-4
Blake 6-2, 6-2, 6-4
Navratilova/Paes 6-3, 6-2



Ashley/Kirkland @2.70

Douchevina/Peer @1.80

Fujiwara/Li @2.35

Groenefeld x Blake @1.85

Navratilova/Paes @1.57


Great day. :)

bad gambler
09-02-2005, 03:38 AM
nice one dp :)

Ale10
09-02-2005, 03:42 AM
nice one dp :)

Thanks mate. :)

dbnumberone
09-02-2005, 03:59 AM
congrats on the good day ale
good day here too, Robby & Blake put me up 4.5 units

its.like.that
09-02-2005, 08:39 AM
LOL... SEBBY IS THE WORD

told y'all so

:p