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Aussie conservative takes a fall

its.like.that
08-29-2005, 09:40 AM
"The New South Wales Premier says he feels no sympathy for the Opposition Leader, who has been forced to resign over a racist slur and the sexual harassment of two women."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1448623.htm


I hope that all the Australian Muppits who returned the Liberals to government at the Federal election may have a change of heart following this event.

bad gambler
08-29-2005, 11:24 AM
I hope that all the Australian Muppits who returned the Liberals to government at the Federal election may have a change of heart following this event.


you can't make such a generalisation based on the stupidity of one person.

i'm hardly suprised with this, Brogden is from a GPS background, enough said.

its.like.that
08-29-2005, 11:31 AM
I never realised you were such a capitalist.

Purple Rainbow
08-29-2005, 11:32 AM
Conservatives taking a fall is a good thing! More conservatives should! But this guy appears to be particularly nuts. :)

btw, do I grasp from the article that in Australia the conservatives are actually the liberals?

bad gambler
08-29-2005, 11:48 AM
I never realised you were such a capitalist.


:retard:

Jim Jones
08-29-2005, 12:52 PM
Conservatives taking a fall is a good thing! More conservatives should! But this guy appears to be particularly nuts. :)

btw, do I grasp from the article that in Australia the conservatives are actually the liberals?
well in France the word liberal actually refers to anglo-saxon (read: U.S: & American) economic policies. The guy who resigned in Australia was a conservative and he deserved to lose his post.

bad gambler
08-29-2005, 12:58 PM
I think you have it wrong, the guy who made a racial slur was a liberal. It does not matter if he was a lib or a con he did a wrong thing and now has to pay the consequences.


here the liberals are the "conservatives"

but you are right, it doesn't matter the party he represents, racial slurs and groping women and he had no choice but to go

Purple Rainbow
08-29-2005, 01:00 PM
well in France the word liberal actually refers to anglo-saxon (read: U.S: & American) economic policies. The guy who resigned in Australia was a conservative and he deserved to lose his post.

Hey, you edited your post.. too bad, I wanted to comment on it.

Anyway, in Holland, the liberals are our right-wing party and the conservatives too. It seems that only in the USA a liberal is a degrading term used to refer to left-leaning people.

Action Jackson
08-29-2005, 01:20 PM
In Australia the party should be a called the Tories, they are not a liberal party per se. Both Liberals and Tories have similiar views on economic policy, but not social policy.

Jim Jones
08-29-2005, 01:26 PM
Hey, you edited your post.. too bad, I wanted to comment on it.

Anyway, in Holland, the liberals are our right-wing party and the conservatives too. It seems that only in the USA a liberal is a degrading term used to refer to left-leaning people.
Yeah, I edited my post one minute after having posted it when I saw that I was wrong. But you guys are faster than speedy gonzalez. :lol:

its.like.that
08-29-2005, 02:33 PM
Conservatives taking a fall is a good thing! More conservatives should! But this guy appears to be particularly nuts. :)

btw, do I grasp from the article that in Australia the conservatives are actually the liberals?

yep, isn't it ironic that the main conservative party in Australia is called the Liberals :lol:.

its.like.that
08-29-2005, 02:37 PM
In Australia the party should be a called the Tories, they are not a liberal party per se. Both Liberals and Tories have similiar views on economic policy, but not social policy.

are you still in the running to become next tory leader in the UK?

it looks like you have some catching up to do, Davis has been impressing many a clown :p.

Action Jackson
08-29-2005, 02:39 PM
are you still in the running to become next tory leader in the UK?

it looks like you have some catching up to do, Davis has been impressing many a clown :p.

It would be hard for me to do so considering I am not a British citizen. :p

gooner88
08-29-2005, 02:39 PM
What was the racial slur that this guy said if you Aussies don't mind me asking?

bad gambler
08-29-2005, 02:41 PM
What was the racial slur that this guy said if you Aussies don't mind me asking?


the former premier's wife was of asian background

this mofo referred to her as a "mail order bride"

bad gambler
08-29-2005, 02:41 PM
are you still in the running to become next tory leader in the UK?

it looks like you have some catching up to do, Davis has been impressing many a clown :p.


:lol:

gooner88
08-29-2005, 02:46 PM
the former premier's wife was of asian background

this mofo referred to her as a "mail order bride"

What a twat. :mad:
How did this guy ever become a leading politician in the first place; although we have alot of bad ones here aswell.

Action Jackson
08-29-2005, 02:54 PM
He is a North Shore yuppie scum that went to a "good" public school.

its.like.that
08-29-2005, 03:12 PM
Most of the Libs are that way however.

Kristen
08-30-2005, 07:23 AM
I am not making excuses for him, but he was pissed, and is only a male after all. lol, I found it slightly amusing when I first heard it (6.30am, on Nova 96.9 with Merrick and Rosso - they could make almost anything humourous). Good to hear him come back with an apology though, even if it isn't accepted. Also nice to see he knows he was an ass, and that he would feel the same way (as Bob/the public) if similar comments were made about his wife.

Am I the only person to not loathe him? I understand that someone in his position should know better, and not make these comments, but I'm still shocked that he's not the leader now. Who will be? lol... He always seemed to behave at functions at my work, and would be quite charming towards the other guests. One of my coworkers will be absolutely heartbroken by the news. LOL she adored him. Sick of politics in this country. All the guys I get to like make asses of themselves and resign from politics. (And sometimes they come back to lead their party again *cough* Kim Beazley *cough*) Bob Brown is cool though ;)

margaret_gn
08-30-2005, 10:13 AM
Awww Brogden you ruined it for the liberals... how many months is it till state elections? :rolleyes:

bad gambler
08-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Awww Brogden you ruined it for the liberals... how many months is it till state elections? :rolleyes:


still couple more years

its.like.that
08-30-2005, 11:36 AM
Awww Brogden you ruined it for the liberals... how many months is it till state elections? :rolleyes:

I know that Australia is a democracy, but please don't vote.

margaret_gn
08-30-2005, 08:19 PM
@ Bad Gambler: oh thanks, i thought it was a lot sooner.
@ its.like.that: why not?

bad gambler
08-31-2005, 04:43 AM
A sad development to this story, Brogden apparently tried to commit suicide in the wake of more revelations of sexual misconduct to several of his female staff

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/disgraced-brogdens-suicide-bid/2005/08/31/1125302574623.html

Shattered Brogden's suicide bid[B]
By Robert Wainwright and Jonathan

John Brogden was rushed to hospital last night after an apparent suicide attempt, one day after he resigned in disgrace as the NSW Opposition Leader.

He was found at his Pittwater electorate office some time before 11pm with self-inflicted stab wounds. He is believed to have been in a drug-and alcohol-induced stupor, and was taken by ambulance to Royal North Shore Hospital.

News of Mr Brogden's collapse swept quickly around Macquarie Street, where his colleagues had been involved in a late-night numbers battle to decide who will replace the 36-year-old, who resigned on Monday after admitting to propositioning female journalists and referring to Helena Carr, wife of the former premier, as a mail-order bride.

Mr Brogden's deputy, Barry O'Farrell, immediately put off his push for the leadership in a ballot scheduled for today and rushed to the hospital to support Mr Brogden and his wife, Lucy.

The Herald had called Mr O'Farrell about 11pm to ask him about the numbers, but he replied: "Excuse me if I say I don't care about the leadership at the moment, but I am following an ambulance with John Brogden inside. He has attempted self-harm. It sort of puts things in perspective, doesn't it?"

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AdvertisementMr Brogden's injuries were described as not life-threatening. They required no surgery last night. He was said to be lucid when taken to hospital.

The Herald understands Mr Brogden may have been aware that The Daily Telegraph was to publish allegations today that he was involved in another sexual advance to two female reporters. It led early editions of the paper with the headline: "Brogden's sordid past".

Mr Brogden's collapse could mean that this morning's planned leadership ballot will not go ahead.

Mr O'Farrell and his fellow Liberal MPs Peta Seaton and Andrew Tink left the hospital at 12.10am, but did not elaborate on Mr Brogden's condition.

Earlier yesterday Mr Brogden had returned to work as the member for Pittwater, pledging his commitment to local causes and getting warm support from his party and constituents.

He spent the day in the electorate office at Mona Vale, where some locals were disappointed by his behaviour but fully supported his decision to remain their MP.

"I would have liked him to stay on as leader of the party, but realistically he probably can't," said Lyndee Cook, 50, of Mona Vale. "He has been the member for here a long time and I'm glad he is staying on. Most people here quite like him."

Mr Brogden has been the MP in the blue-ribbon Liberal seat since a 1996 byelection and has improved his winning margin in the past two elections. He has fought hard to try to save Mona Vale Hospital and reserved his only interview after resigning for The Manly Daily, promising to devote his "complete commitment to serve and fight the issues".

"Now I have got the chance to come back [as an MP] and recommit myself to the role."

The president of the Pittwater branch, Ross Barlow, said local party members were disappointed by his actions but wanted him to remain their MP.

"Local members were disappointed but they are giving their support back to him," Mr Barlow said. "John is a good operator and a good person in Pittwater. He has done a good job here."

Erin Ricketts, 20, a student from Scotland Island, was glad Mr Brogden remained in Parliament and hoped he would "do good things" for the northern beaches. "If he pinched some girl's arse and said the wrong thing it shouldn't reflect what he does politically," she said.

"This whole thing about social righteousness kind of annoys me. I think everybody is human."