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I need help with points.

CandiceSj
07-17-2003, 05:18 PM
I asked someone to inform me on how the points work, and what I got out of it was that the # of points they have gotten during the past 52 weeks is what they have at the beginning of the year, and that after that, the points they're getting this year replace the points they got during the same week the year before. So if they got 15 points less this year, that's off the total, if it's more, it's added.
Obviously, there's something missing if it's even right at all. There's the whole Entry Ranking and the other thing... :S I DON'T KNOW! Ah!

Can someone explain by using simple terms or explain clearly please? Thank you so much.

Margui
10-02-2003, 07:27 PM
I don't understand either,how those systems work. Let's ask somebody to help us!!

Yashirobai
10-10-2003, 06:34 PM
Look how simple it is:

Entry ranking: tells you the # of points in the last 52 weeks.

Champions race: tells you the # of points of the year (right now, of 2003).

COMA
11-26-2003, 05:03 PM
You should see "Entry points" and "Race points" on www.stevegtennis.com

tripthemighty
12-02-2003, 12:16 AM
I pretty much understand both the Champions Race points and the Entry Ranking points, if anyone wants for me to explain it. Just let me know. :)

holagirl56
07-12-2004, 07:27 PM
Entry Race:ranking or scoring is based on the tournaments played (Round points) and the opponents which are played (Quality points).

The scoring system runs for a whole year but only the 17 highest ranked tournaments are important. It also determines whether players are seeded for a particular tournament.
Players, who only play 12 or 13 tournaments a year, are only judged for the tournaments played.
The number of points is also stipulated by the category of that specific tournament. There are Grand slams, Tier I , II, III, Tier IV and Tier V tournaments.
Each Monday the ranking scores are readjusted by the ATP (Association of Tennis Professionals). When a player starts a tournament, the points she scored at the same tournament the previous year, are subtracted from the current total. This way the player can only score extra points by at least getting through to the same round or do even better than the year before.
When you beat a higher-ranked player you gain quality points.
The points by category (round) and the quality points are shown below.
On this site you’ll notice that we change the ranking only after a tournament is played. Thus pointing out the exact number of points scored at that particular tournament.

Champions Race - Everything from the beginning of this year, in which the players recieve points for the quality of all the ATP tournament events played

jtipson
07-18-2004, 01:13 PM
Entry Race:ranking or scoring is based on the tournaments played (Round points) and the opponents which are played (Quality points).

The scoring system runs for a whole year but only the 17 highest ranked tournaments are important. It also determines whether players are seeded for a particular tournament.
Players, who only play 12 or 13 tournaments a year, are only judged for the tournaments played.
The number of points is also stipulated by the category of that specific tournament. There are Grand slams, Tier I , II, III, Tier IV and Tier V tournaments.
Each Monday the ranking scores are readjusted by the ATP (Association of Tennis Professionals). When a player starts a tournament, the points she scored at the same tournament the previous year, are subtracted from the current total. This way the player can only score extra points by at least getting through to the same round or do even better than the year before.
When you beat a higher-ranked player you gain quality points.
The points by category (round) and the quality points are shown below.
On this site you’ll notice that we change the ranking only after a tournament is played. Thus pointing out the exact number of points scored at that particular tournament.

Champions Race - Everything from the beginning of this year, in which the players recieve points for the quality of all the ATP tournament events played

No, I think these are the rules for the WTA not the ATP. They are different tours and have different rules.

The ATP does not have quality points, or tiers as such, and works on a best 18 (13 mandatory + 5 optional) system.

Entry System (the *real* rankings): points obtained over the past 52 weeks. Players at ATP level count points from the four Grand Slams, nine Masters Series, the Tennis Masters' Cup if played, and the best five results from other tournaments. If a player is eligible for the mandatory (GS + TMS) tournaments but doesn't play them, they score 0 for that tournament. Entry points are Race points multiplied by five. Entry points are also earned for tournaments below ATP level (challengers, futures, etc).

Race: points obtained from the start of the year to date. Rules same as above. Race points are 20% of Entry system points. Race points are not earned for tournaments below ATP level (challengers, futures, etc).

At the end of the year, for players who have played all year in ATP level (i.e. not challengers), Entry = Race * 5.

Frooty_Bazooty
08-30-2004, 11:36 AM
yup jtip is right, no qulaity points in the ATP

alfonsojose
08-31-2004, 06:55 PM
It's too late :crying2: CandiceSj hasn't post anything since last september. We lost a tennis fan 'coz we couldn't help her. It's all my fault :suicide: :explode: