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Ivan in Us Open

Fergie
08-23-2005, 03:01 PM
Good luck Ivan and please play better than the last tournaments ;)

El Legenda
08-23-2005, 10:32 PM
When does the draw come out?

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-24-2005, 04:49 AM
I heard today,no?
Honestly I don't have any confidence in him now. :o His GS result is not that successful,now he has no form and back injury as well.If he passes R1 I would be happy too. :)

El Legenda
08-24-2005, 05:48 AM
Ivan is 18th seed. Ill be happy too...if he passes 1st round....but then again i have a feeling about this one 4th ROUND :lol: i hope.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-24-2005, 06:24 AM
If he can be in the 3rd round,he will play against one of Seeds 9 to 16,honestly it will be perfect to play against Gaston even though I like that player. :aplot: Against Tim is pretty good for him either. :lol:

9. Gaston Gaudio, Argentina
10. Mariano Puerta, Argentina
11. David Nalbandian, Argentina
12. Tim Henman, Great Britain
13. Richard Gasquet, France
14. Thomas Johansson, Sweden
15. Dominik Hrbaty, Slovakia
16. Radek Stepanek, Czech Republic

bavaria100
08-24-2005, 04:12 PM
If he can be in the 3rd round,he will play against one of Seeds 9 to 16,honestly it will be perfect to play against Gaston even though I like that player. :aplot: Against Tim is pretty good for him either. :lol:

9. Gaston Gaudio, Argentina
10. Mariano Puerta, Argentina
11. David Nalbandian, Argentina
12. Tim Henman, Great Britain
13. Richard Gasquet, France
14. Thomas Johansson, Sweden
15. Dominik Hrbaty, Slovakia
16. Radek Stepanek, Czech Republic

Well, Tim and Gaston would be good opponents for Ivan, but honestly, the chance that Tim reaches the third round is very, very, very slim (Gaston has a slightly better chance). Let´s hope that Ivan gets beyond the first round, because we all know that he has many problems in big tournaments. He really needs a good result, because he hasn´t played that well anymore since Miami. A good result here would boost his confidence for the indoor season.

Good luck Ivan!

El Legenda
08-24-2005, 05:18 PM
IVAN MIGHT GET OUT OF 1ST ROUND...He plays a Q in 1st...Tipsarevic or Saulnier in 2nd 3rd round Richard Gasquet 4th round Roddick :mad:

good draw...

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-24-2005, 07:00 PM
Well, Tim and Gaston would be good opponents for Ivan, but honestly, the chance that Tim reaches the third round is very, very, very slim (Gaston has a slightly better chance). Let´s hope that Ivan gets beyond the first round, because we all know that he has many problems in big tournaments. He really needs a good result, because he hasn´t played that well anymore since Miami. A good result here would boost his confidence for the indoor season.

Good luck Ivan!

Hey give me some tips on betting gal. ;)
The draw was out,Tim could be like someone that gets ass kicked by Verdasco in R1. :bigcry:
IMO Ivan can at least roll on R3 unless the qualifier is too good.But in R4,he is almost Game over.The duck just lost to in form Ivan in 5 sets in DC,now we know what his status is.I suppose that match will play at night and they guys don't get along really well,the crowd could be madder against Ivan. :o
He needs luck so much,come on Ivan don't lose in R1 again! :armed::rocker2:

linus
08-24-2005, 07:14 PM
AJMO ljubo, god bless him over 1st round first;

then everything would be tough for him, omg :(

bavaria100
08-24-2005, 09:33 PM
Hey give me some tips on betting gal. ;)
The draw was out,Tim could be like someone that gets ass kicked by Verdasco in R1. :bigcry:
IMO Ivan can at least roll on R3 unless the qualifier is too good.But in R4,he is almost Game over.The duck just lost to in form Ivan in 5 sets in DC,now we know what his status is.I suppose that match will play at night and they guys don't get along really well,the crowd could be madder against Ivan. :o
He needs luck so much,come on Ivan don't lose in R1 again! :armed::rocker2:


Yes, I´m not happy about this draw either. :mad: Normally, Ivan should be able to reach at least the third round, but we´ll have to see who´ll be his first round opponent. The third round could be tough if he´ll have to play Haas and the fourth could be the end of the tourney for him. :o He can beat Andy, but he has to play like at the begining of the season and that´s not too likely to happen.

It´s better if I don´t give any betting advice, because I always lose. I wouldn´t be happy if you would lose your cash because of me. :sad:

El Legenda
08-24-2005, 10:36 PM
Maybe Hass can beat Roddick :lol: ill be happy if Ivan loses in 4th round...really really happy.

Fergie
08-25-2005, 01:27 AM
The Draw

Federer, Roger (1) v Minar, Ivo
Santoro, Fabrice v Melzer, Jurgen
Montanes, Albert v Hanescu, Victor
qualifier v Rochus, Olivier (27)

Ferrero, Juan Carlos (20) v qualifier
Pavel, Andrei v qualifier
Kiefer, Nicolas v Vanek, Jiri
Lapentti, Nicolas v Stepanek, Radek (16)

Nalbandian, David (11) v qualifier
Wessels, Peter v Rochus, Christophe
Tursunov, Dmitry v Baghdatis, Marcos
qualifier v Gonzalez, Fernando (21)

Moya, Carlos (31) v Llodra, Michael
Sanguinetti, Davide v Arthurs, Wayne
Srichaphan, Paradorn v El Aynaoui, Younes
Zib, Tomas v Davydenko, Nikolay (6)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hewitt, Lleyton (3) v Costa, Albert
Acasuso, Jose v Horna, Luis
Carlsen, Kenneth v Almagro, Nicolas
Burgsmuller, Lars v Dent, Taylor (25)

Ferrer, David (17) v Calleri, Agustin
Philippoussis, Mark (wc) v Kucera, Karol
qualifier v Kim, Kevin
Seppi, Andreas v Hrbaty, Dominik (15)

Henman, Tim (12) v Verdasco, Fernando
Mathieu, Paul-Henri v qualifier
Monfils, Gael v Djokovic, Novak
Lee, Hyung-Taik v Ancic, Mario (22)

Mirnyi, Max (30) v Gimelstob, Justin
Serra, Florent v Koubek, Stefan
Nieminen, Jarkko v Beck, Karol
Popp, Alexander v Safin, Marat (5)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coria, Guillermo (8) v Mantilla, Felix
qualifier v Spadea, Vincent
Soderling, Robin v Chela, Juan Ignacio
Volandri, Filippo v Lopez, Feliciano (26)

Novak, Jiri (23) v Norman, Dick
Gambill, Jan-Michael (wc) v Massu, Nicolas
Wawrinka, Stanislas v Ram, Rajeev (wc)
qualifier v Puerta, Mariano (10)

Gasquet, Richard (13) v Martin, Alberto
qualifier v Young, Donald (wc)
Saulnier, Cyril v Tipsarevic, Janko
qualifier v Ljubicic, Ivan (18)

Haas, Tommy (29) v qualifier
Starace, Potito v Schuettler, Rainer
Ginepri, Robby v Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo
Muller, Giles v Roddick, Andy (4)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Agassi, Andre (7) v Sabau, Razvan
Fish, Mardy v Karlovic, Ivo
Monaco, Juan v Mello, Ricardo
Kohlschreiber, Philipp v Berdych, Tomas (32)

Youzhny, Mikhail (24) v Mayer, Florian
Behrend, Tomas v qualifier
Hernych, Jan v Malisse, Xavier
Baker, Brian (wc) v Gaudio, Gaston (9)

Johansson, Thomas (14) v Zabaleta, Mariano
Hernandez, Oscar v Grosjean, Sebastien
Goldstein, Paul v Kuerten, Gustavo
qualifier v Robredo, Tommy (19)

Rusedski, Greg (28) v Blake, James (wc)
qualifier v Andreev, Igor
qualifier v Jenkins, Scoville (wc)
Reynolds, Bobby (wc) v Nadal, Rafael (2)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-25-2005, 08:43 AM
Yes, I´m not happy about this draw either. :mad: Normally, Ivan should be able to reach at least the third round, but we´ll have to see who´ll be his first round opponent. The third round could be tough if he´ll have to play Haas and the fourth could be the end of the tourney for him. :o He can beat Andy, but he has to play like at the begining of the season and that´s not too likely to happen.

It´s better if I don´t give any betting advice, because I always lose. I wouldn´t be happy if you would lose your cash because of me. :sad:

That's not your style to put :sad: smilies girl. :ras: I even betted against two Tommy as well,I almost have won thousands of v cash, :hearts: OMG! :rolleyes:
I do hope "Tommy" (H of course) even Robby will beat the duck, :crazy: but Ivan win his first match first. :)

Fergie
08-25-2005, 12:20 PM
but Ivan win his first match first. :)
This is the most important, Ivan needs to win a match again ;)

I want to see a match between Ivan and Andy :devil:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-25-2005, 12:26 PM
This is the most important, Ivan needs to win a match again ;)

I want to see a match between Ivan and Andy :devil:

I even want the duck will be kicked ass by Robby. :angel: Last year this is a bullshit, :armed: but this year Robby improves a lot. :clap2: He even took a set off against Roger. :eek: I like this player a lot. :aplot:

Fergie
08-25-2005, 12:53 PM
I even want the duck will be kicked ass by Robby. :angel: Last year this is a bullshit, :armed: but this year Robby improves a lot. :clap2: He even took a set off against Roger. :eek: I like this player a lot. :aplot:
Of course I prefer to see Robby beating Andy again ... But I want that Ivan shut up some mouths around here and beats Andy :devil:

linus
08-25-2005, 01:33 PM
who knows how about his back injury?

Fergie
08-25-2005, 02:25 PM
who knows how about his back injury?
I don't have a idea :confused: ... But I just hope that Ivan feels better and can play his best tennis here ;)

El Legenda
08-25-2005, 04:55 PM
He has good chance here..to win 3 matchs,

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-25-2005, 05:20 PM
Of course I prefer to see Robby beating Andy again ... But I want that Ivan shut up some mouths around here and beats Andy :devil:

You are so optimistic girl. :eek:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-25-2005, 05:21 PM
who knows how about his back injury?
His official site hasn't updated this news? :confused:

El Legenda
08-25-2005, 05:40 PM
His official site hasn't updated this news? :confused:
ill try to find out soon. :yeah:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-25-2005, 07:19 PM
ill try to find out soon. :yeah:
I've found it already.His most updated news was in 21.07.2005. :zzz: You always mention you're his cousin,I doubt it. ;)
What the fuck is going on today? :shout: Feña lost and I lost so many bets in many matches! :armed:

El Legenda
08-25-2005, 11:37 PM
I would be pissed if Ljubo gets the best Q out there :)

RickDaStick
08-26-2005, 01:51 AM
I've found it already.His most updated news was in 21.07.2005. :zzz: You always mention you're his cousin,I doubt it. ;)
What the fuck is going on today? :shout: Feña lost and I lost so many bets in many matches! :armed:

You can doubt it all you want, but Rducky is Ivans cousin whether you belive him or not.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-26-2005, 07:39 AM
You can doubt it all you want, but Rducky is Ivans cousin whether you belive him or not.

I have perfect trust in him if he has the proof.( Now 99% :rolls: )I find so weird coz he didn't like to talk about his relationship when I asked that before. :shrug: Alright I won't talk the word COUSIN in the future. :)

Fergie
08-26-2005, 12:32 PM
You are so optimistic girl. :eek:
I am always optimistic when I support my fav players ;)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-26-2005, 12:51 PM
I am always optimistic when I support my fav players ;)

I am a bit different from you,it depends on which player. :p You know some faves are too inconsistent. ;)

Fergie
08-26-2005, 01:15 PM
I am a bit different from you,it depends on which player. :p You know some faves are too inconsistent. ;)
But when they lose I get angry, specially in the matchs that should have won :p

Any news about Ivan's back injury? :confused:

linus
08-26-2005, 07:19 PM
ill try to find out soon. :yeah:
plz dear guy :worship: you have seen so many us care for it ;)

anyway, if you pity us, give us something about his shape and mind if possible, i got so few about him since wimby :eek:

linus
08-26-2005, 07:23 PM
:shout: Feña lost and I lost so many bets in many matches! :armed:
:kiss: dear, me too though my vcash much less than you :haha:

i am wanna be an optimistic girl like dear Fergie :lol: so i just look at my lost vcash as some gift to my favs, no one can tell me why always them who made me lost :lol: esp when i earned some from non-favs but lost on them so easily :haha:

linus
08-26-2005, 07:25 PM
I am always optimistic when I support my fav players ;)
how nice if i was you :eek: dear Fergie, i am too nervous every time, i think maybe the biggest reason is that my fav is not roger, do you think so :lol: :lol:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-26-2005, 07:29 PM
But when they lose I get angry, specially in the matchs that should have won :p

Any news about Ivan's back injury? :confused:

I was so angry in the past all the time,but as my sig said,thought defeats heart now.Then I feel negative towards those players. :o

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-26-2005, 07:31 PM
plz dear guy :worship: you have seen so many us care for it ;)

anyway, if you pity us, give us something about his shape and mind if possible, i got so few about him since wimby :eek:

Ya I'm quite worry about his injury.It has bothered him for a long time. :sad:
Bring some news man. :)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-26-2005, 07:35 PM
:kiss: dear, me too though my vcash much less than you :haha:

i am wanna be an optimistic girl like dear Fergie :lol: so i just look at my lost vcash as some gift to my favs, no one can tell me why always them who made me lost :lol: esp when i earned some from non-favs but lost on them so easily :haha:
:hug:
Sometimes you have to bet against some faves to earn more money. :sobbing: The most unacceptable time is I betted against Juan $2550.The duck won but I was so sad even though I got bets. :crying2:

linus
08-26-2005, 07:47 PM
:haha: 鳄鱼的眼泪 :haha:

he would shouted with tears"why you put him so much, even not any sweet to me?"

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-26-2005, 08:09 PM
:haha: 鳄鱼的眼泪 :haha:

he would shouted with tears"why you put him so much, even not any sweet to me?"

"Him" refers to the duck?

linus
08-26-2005, 08:32 PM
you know, if i put so much vcash against someone i love, even though all of it is lost, i still be so happy, right? dear :kiss:

sometimes 迷信 :eek:

right, him is andy R

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-26-2005, 08:37 PM
you know, if i put so much vcash against someone i love, even though all of it is lost, i still be so happy, right? dear :kiss:

sometimes 迷信 :eek:

right, him is andy R

I have already addicted to this game. :eek: When you lose money esp lots of $$$$ you won't be happy. :p
I don't know why but I regret so much. :)

El Legenda
08-26-2005, 08:42 PM
i use to have 15,000 vCash..then all lost in 1 match :sad:

linus
08-26-2005, 08:46 PM
I have already addicted to this game. :eek: When you lose money esp lots of $$$$ you won't be happy. :p
I don't know why but I regret so much. :)
omg, my dear, you are in danger :lol:

if vcash can take back my fav to win the match, i would like my vcash in return :lol:

El Legenda
08-26-2005, 10:03 PM
that Eowyn person is so easy to mess with..takes things way to seriously. :)

linus
08-26-2005, 10:31 PM
i use to have 15,000 vCash..then all lost in 1 match :sad:
:lol: you are a risky guy :lol:

so now you need to make out the difference between guy and gal, right? ;)

take it easy, everything could pass over with the name of L O V E :hug:

Fergie
08-27-2005, 12:52 AM
i use to have 15,000 vCash..then all lost in 1 match :sad:
I remember this ... Was in Miami, right?

I'm trying to back to 500 and I will stop to bet, but who knows :lol:

RickDaStick
08-27-2005, 12:54 AM
Ivan will play Tobias Summerer in the first round. Summerer has never won an ATP Match. Good Draw for Ivan, I was expecting Murray or Bracialli but now that it is Summerer i think Ivan will win in straights.

El Legenda
08-27-2005, 01:16 AM
:woohoo: looks like 3rd or 4th round is his to lose.

Fergie
08-27-2005, 01:51 AM
Ivan will play Tobias Summerer in the first round. Summerer has never won an ATP Match. Good Draw for Ivan, I was expecting Murray or Bracialli but now that it is Summerer i think Ivan will win in straights.
And Summerer will not win his first match in the Us Open either :devil:

Good luck Ivan!!! :D

El Legenda
08-27-2005, 02:16 AM
Ivan needs to come of USO with few wins...going into the DC match with Russia.

El Legenda
08-28-2005, 04:08 AM
Summerer is 0-3 so far. Ivan should win this in 3..maybe 6-3 6-4 6-2 I hope! :yeah:

2nd round should be another winnable 3 set match

3rd round- might get harder but Ivan should win

4th round- RODDICK CANT WAIT. :woohoo:

Fergie
08-28-2005, 01:25 PM
Summerer is 0-3 so far. Ivan should win this in 3..maybe 6-3 6-4 6-2 I hope! :yeah:

2nd round should be another winnable 3 set match

3rd round- might get harder but Ivan should win

4th round- RODDICK CANT WAIT. :woohoo:
These predictions sounds good ;) ... Go Ivan!

El Legenda
08-28-2005, 07:39 PM
Does Ivan play 2moro? I hope so!..Go Ivan. :woohoo:

El Legenda
08-28-2005, 07:50 PM
Court 6 11.00 AM Start

1. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Tobias Summerer (GER) vs. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO)[18]
followed by
2. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Dinara Safina (RUS)[21] vs. Maria Elena Camerin (ITA)
3. Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Tiffany Dabek (USA) vs. Vera Douchevina (RUS)[33]
4. Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Daniele Bracciali (ITA) vs. Tommy Robredo (ESP)[19]

Fergie
08-28-2005, 08:16 PM
Go Ivan, win in straight sets! ;)

linus
08-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Good luck, Ljubo :lol:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-29-2005, 04:59 AM
Win in straight set with a bagel. :lol:

Fergie
08-29-2005, 04:38 PM
Not an easy match for now but at least Ivan leads 6-3 7-6

El Legenda
08-29-2005, 04:52 PM
Ivan gets a early break in 3rd set....1st set way easy, but 2nd was a big struggle with serve...

El Legenda
08-29-2005, 04:57 PM
ivan gets broken back on serve in 3rd :mad:

El Legenda
08-29-2005, 05:22 PM
6-3 7-6(5) 6-3 :woohoo: looks likes Tipsy in 2nd round.

linus
08-29-2005, 05:24 PM
anyway, he won over though waste some mps :lol:

good guy, go on right :yeah:

linus
08-29-2005, 05:26 PM
god bless he is all right well now :angel:

linus
08-29-2005, 05:29 PM
:hug: good luck

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-29-2005, 06:22 PM
He won in R1 finally. :o;):crazy::clap2::bigclap::woohoo:

El Legenda
08-29-2005, 10:47 PM
Ivan will play Cyril Saulnier in 2nd round....Cyril is 11-21 this year. Gasquet looks like going into 5th set.

Fergie
08-30-2005, 12:41 AM
Well done Ivan and good luck in 2nd round :D

El Legenda
08-30-2005, 08:50 PM
when does 2nd round start? Thrusday?

if Ivan plays Gasquet in 3rd...he has a good chance..there is no way he will lose in straights and if it goes to 5..Gasquet is terrible condition. and Ivan has worked with new condition coach for past year and can play those long matchs.

Fergie
08-30-2005, 08:55 PM
Ivan should win against Gasquet without a doubt

And yes, looks like Ivan will play against on Thursday ;)

El Legenda
08-30-2005, 08:58 PM
If Ivan and Roddick play in 4th round..and all the Andy fans will make a big deal about it. even thought andy is the favor and should win in 3 or 4, but watch..they will make huge deal about it and says its revenage from DC. hope Ivan does play him and WIN :lol:

El Legenda
08-31-2005, 02:40 AM
ummm Ivan if he makes it to 4th might not play Roddick.....Andy's down 6-7 6-7 2-2 right now.

El Legenda
08-31-2005, 03:18 AM
Roddick Lost 7-6(6) 7-6(8) 7-6(1)

well Ivan has been given the QF. NOW TAKE IT

Fergie
08-31-2005, 03:25 AM
Now I want to see a match between Ivan and Robby :D

El Legenda
08-31-2005, 03:38 AM
PLZ ivan dont choke another great GS draw

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-31-2005, 03:59 AM
PLZ ivan dont choke another great GS draw

Ya I've been waiting for this chance so long! :fiery::boxing::bounce:

El Legenda
08-31-2005, 04:06 AM
Ya I've been waiting for this chance so long! :fiery::boxing::bounce:

lol i been waiting since he turned pro :) i think if he wins 2nd..he should win that match 99 out of 100 times but u know Ivan...he should not have trouible vs Gasquet(if he makes it to 3rd himself)....

4th round- Robby? Muller? all in Ivan favor

QF :tape: Coria

ill stop there :lol:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-31-2005, 01:00 PM
lol i been waiting since he turned pro :) i think if he wins 2nd..he should win that match 99 out of 100 times but u know Ivan...he should not have trouible vs Gasquet(if he makes it to 3rd himself)....

4th round- Robby? Muller? all in Ivan favor

QF :tape: Coria

ill stop there :lol:

I am not sure about if he will against left-handed Muller. :p IMO his form is better than Ivan :tape: but ya I cheer for him surely. ;)

croat123
08-31-2005, 01:58 PM
this draw is just begging for ivan to make it deep. ajmo!!

Fergie
08-31-2005, 02:00 PM
Now Ivan has a big chance here, I hope that he can take advantage of this ;)

linus
08-31-2005, 02:45 PM
ljubo, ljubo, so hungry to wait for you into straight rounds :eek:

let's recover back from this US OPEN, a wonderful journey :angel:

good luck with my UNCLE Mario :hug:

El Legenda
08-31-2005, 08:07 PM
Ivan and Mario won doubles 6-2 7-6(0)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
08-31-2005, 08:28 PM
Nice job! :D Now win the 2nd single match! :rocker2:

linus
08-31-2005, 10:43 PM
yessss, ljubo, to be your hero from now on :hug:

good luck to your singles today :angel:

Fergie
09-01-2005, 12:50 AM
Well done boys! :bounce:

Ivan will play the last match in Court 8 ... Go! :bounce:

linus
09-01-2005, 02:28 AM
AJMO LJUBO :tennis:

El Legenda
09-01-2005, 03:43 PM
:tennis: go Ivan..make a easy match. :woohoo:

El Legenda
09-01-2005, 04:33 PM
78 Ale10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 08 . . . 05 . . . 03 . . . 61
.. Fergie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 07 . . . 05 . . . 02 . . . 61
.. RDucky . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . 09 . . . 04 . . . 61

we are tied :rolls: PAW

linus
09-01-2005, 05:01 PM
what is it???

El Legenda
09-01-2005, 05:03 PM
what is it???

PAW- Pick-A-Winner :yeah:

linus
09-01-2005, 05:55 PM
your order?

El Legenda
09-01-2005, 06:26 PM
yes :)

linus
09-01-2005, 07:06 PM
but whats its clear explanation?

linus
09-01-2005, 07:06 PM
:confused:

El Legenda
09-01-2005, 07:26 PM
of PAW?

linus
09-01-2005, 08:29 PM
yes

linus
09-01-2005, 08:30 PM
whats the right meaning of the nos?

El Legenda
09-01-2005, 08:45 PM
The Official PAW (Pick-A-Winner) Rules and FAQ’s





1. I’m new and I have never played PAW, so how does it work?

PAW is an abbreviation for Pick-A-Winner. It is a game when you predict the winners of matches of your choice during a WTA Tournament. As a PAW player, you are indeed like a WTA player, you will be travelling the PAW circuit each week predicting matches in each tournament. PAW is game in which there is no pre-determined luck or fantasy, your performance is based on your own conscience relative to your fellow PAW competitors.

2. Ok, so I hear something about predicting matches, is there a limit to the number of matches I predict per tournament?

Yes there is a limit.

For:
Grand Slams, you are permitted to 26 picks
Other 128-draw tournaments, you are permitted to 19 picks
One-week 64-draw tournaments, you are permitted to 16 picks
One-week 32-draw tournaments, you are permitted to 13 picks
16-draw tournaments/round-robins, you are permitted to 7 picks.

The number of matches you pick can be from ANY rounds in the main draw. For example for a one-week 32 draw tournament you are allowed 13 picks.
(For instance, you might choose 4 First Round Matches, 4 Second Round matches, 2 Quarter Finals, both Semis and the Final. Or you could choose 12 First Round matches and the Final.)

>> The only stipulation is that you may not make all of your picks in the same round.

3. So how is my performance measured relative to everyone else’s, is it to do with who picks the most correct matches?

NO, your predicting performance at the end of the tournament will be determined and determined only by the Scoring Points that you have compiled throughout the week.

4. So what are these Scoring Points?

For every singles main draw match, there will be scoring points posted in the first post. Here is an example taken from Filderstadt round two in 2003.

The Fixtures and Scoring Points:

K.Clijsters (1) vs D.Hantuchova..........(6-16)
P.Schnyder vs A.Mauresmo (5).............(12-8)
J.Capriati (4) vs M.Pierce...............(5-19)
M.Maleeva vs C.Rubin (7).................(12-9)
A.Myskina (8) vs E.Bovina................(7-14)
A.Sugiyama vs L.Davenport (3)............(13-8)

The numbers after the fixtures are the Scoring Points. These are the respective points you score for picking each player. So if you pick CLIJSTERS to beat HANTUCHOVA and CLIJSTERS wins then you score 6 points.

But if you pick HANTUCHOVA to win and she wins then you score 16 points. Of course, if you pick HANTUCHOVA and she loses you score nothing at all.

As you have noticed, you get more points for picking low-ranked players than for picking high-ranked players. So for each of your selected matches you can choose to go for a “longshot” or to play it safe.

Let’s say you picked these matches:

PAW4: CLIJSTERS over HANTUCHOVA
PAW5: SCHNYDER over MAURESMO
PAW6: CAPRIATI over Pierce
PAW7: MALEEVA over Rubin
PAW8: BOVINA over Myskina
PAW9: SUGIYAMA over Davenport

nB: Since you are limited to a certain amount of “picks” in a tournament (13 in this particular tournament), in an actual game you may choose to 'pass' on some of these matches.

The Results:

K.Clijsters (1) bt D.Hantuchova 6-1, 6-1
You picked CLIJSTERS so you score 6 points

P.Schnyder bt A.Mauresmo (5) 6-2, 6-2
You picked SCHNYDER so you score 12 points

M.Pierce bt J.Capriati (4) 6-4, 6-2
You picked CAPRIATI so you score 0 points

M.Maleeva bt C.Rubin (7) 6-3, 6-4
You picked MALEEVA so you score 12 points

E.Bovina bt A.Myskina (8) 6-2, 6-3
You picked BOVINA so you score 14 points

L.Davenport (3) bt A.Sugiyama 6-2, 6-4
You picked SUGIYAMA so you score 0 points

So from those six matches, you would have accumulated a total of 6 + 12 + 0 + 12 + 14 + 0 = 44 points. The player with the most points at the end of the tournament is the winner. A 'league table' is maintained and will posted in the first post of the PAW thread throughout that tournament.

5. How and where do I post my PAW’s (Predictions)?

Once the tournament that you have committed begins (keep reading for instructions of how to commit), go to the PAW thread located in that particular tournament forum (ie if it is Dubai, go to the Dubai tournament forum and then click the PAW Dubai thread). You may also send your picks by PM to the current PAW manager of that tournament.

Study the Fixtures and Scoring Points in the first post and then name your picks. The Fixtures and Scoring Points will appear when the First Round draw is made. You are allowed to post your picks before the Fixtures and Scoring Points have been posted on the thread.

This is how to post your prediction:

PAWn: Your Pick over Your Pick's Opponent

E.g. PAW6: MALEEVA over RUBIN

"n" should indicate which of your 13 chosen fixtures it is. (ie your last chosen fixture should be labelled PAW13.)

Numbering PAWS not only is important to help the current PAW manager, but also helps you keep track of all your own Picks.

nB: You must posted your prediction in the format “MALEEVA over RUBIN” or “MALEEVA def RUBIN,” it must be clearly specified who you have predicted to win. If you posted “MALEEVA vs RUBIN,” this pick would be deemed invalid. You are also required to specify the full surname of the players - no abbreviations or nicknames please.



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6. What happens when wtaworld.com is slow or down?

In this extreme situation, you may e-mail your PAWS to the my (SpikeyAidanm’s) e-mail address: arma87@hotmail.com ; do remember to include your WTAworld.com handle.

It is not permitted that player allow other PAW players to post PAW's for them, all PAW's submitted must be that player's account.

7. Is it correct that I have to post my PAW’s before that match has started, would my PAW still be valid if I posted my PAW during the first few games?

NO, All picks must be made before the match begins. If there is a chance the match had started when the Pick was posted then that Pick cannot be accepted. This rule is applied very strictly.

Post your picks before the session of play begins to ensure your picks are accepted. This is so everyone knows your pick was made before the match started. (Match start times are not recorded, so picks made five minutes before a match starts cannot normally be accepted)

> In the circumstance of a tournament which provides live scores. Your PAW must be posted no later than five minutes within the last five minutes of the previous match on that court. If the match is the first on that court, you must post your PAW no later that the five minute barrier five minutes before the match time, for your pick to be valid.

> If the tournament does not provide live scores (ie not live internet scoreboard), the Closing Time for each match will determined by a formula, which is based on the total number of games played in earlier matches in the same session. Basically, three minutes are allowed for each game plus 10 minutes for each break between matches.

Picks posted after the Closing Time are accepted only in exceptional circumstances.
(e.g. in the case of rain delays, or if I happen to have watched the match live and noted the start time).

8. Would a PAW become invalid if a player withdrew from their match?

This depends:
> If the player withdrew before the match and not one single point was completed, the PAW would be invalid and players are allowed to make a replacement PAW.

> If the player withdrew from the match after at least one single points had been completed, the PAW would be valid.

9. What if a player withdraws from the final (before the match), would that make the last pick invalid and mean I would go throughout the tournament only picking 12 matches, rather than the maximum 13?

Yes, this is an unfortunate circumstance. If it is impossible to make a replacement PAW it is unfortunate and no Scoring Points are awarded. This rule applies to all matches not played (e.g. matches cancelled due to rain).

10. What if I change my mind after I make my PAW, can I change it?

It is strongly encouraged that you make up your mind before you pick. However you are allowed to make replacement PAWS as long as it is posted before the match and it most be specified in a new post. You MUST NOT edit your original post, since this is not efficient for the PAW manager in compiling your picks.

11. What if a draw change occurred, that affected my pick, would that make it invalid?

Yes, however you are again permitted to post a replacement PAW that must be specified in a new post rather than editing the original one.

nB: Once a Pick is posted in the PAW thread, it may not be changed or deleted.

Players that decide to delete their PAWS will suffer a penalty of being defaulted from that particular tournament and will serve a one month ban from playing PAW (the only exception is for players playing their first tournament). Players that commit this act twice are subject for a permanent banning from PAW.

The PAW manager frequently takes copies of the thread text at regular intervals and the Picks are entered into a database.

12. Am I permitted to play under two or more accounts in PAW?

In order to retain the integrity and spirit of PAW, this is not allowed. Players that appear to be suspicious of having accounts transmitting from the same IP, will have their IP’s checked from the WTAworld.com webmasters and could risk being suspended in PAW.

n.B: It has come to my attention recently that there appears to be an increase in PAW players using multiple user accounts.



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Re: The League Table


Each player's points are tallied and the player with the most points at the end of the tournament is declared the winner. In the event of a tie there is no 'tiebreaker'. The 'League Table' is maintained daily throughout the tournament.

Here's an example from end of the Sparkassen Cup in Leipzig, tournament:

. . Player..................... .. .P .. W .. L ..Pts

1 . speedster_................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 ..133
2 . saab95..................... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 ..128
3 . sandg (2).................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 ..126
4 . YoungProfessor............. .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 ..124
5 . ntohir..................... .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 ..122
6 . Wojtek (1)................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 ..117
7 . Je_ne_sais_quoi............ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 ..105
8 . mypapa_je.................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 ..102
9 . SpikeyAidanm (4)........... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 96
10 . j_dementieva27............ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 94
11 . twight6................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 93
12 . WTA Handicapper (6)....... .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 .. 92
13 . danielrosario (5)......... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 91
14 . Buitenzorg................ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 89
.. . firefly_ac................ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 89
16 . Duleml (WC)............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 88
.. . K&J fan................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 88
18 . iloveSharapova............ .. .9 .. 6 .. 3 .. 87
19 . paellapan................. .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 86
20 . Jeff...................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 81
21 . croat123.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 80
.. . Pintaled.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 80
23 . obatafan.................. .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 77
24 . Rtael..................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 76
25 . Hardiansf................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 75
26 . wateva.................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 74
27 . silent140................. .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 73
.. . Nir....................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 73
29 . azza...................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 67
.. . bbypk (7)................. .. 12 .. 7 .. 5 .. 67
.. . switz..................... .. 11 .. 6 .. 5 .. 67
32 . Mashy..................... .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 66
33 . Hantuchov................. .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 65
.. . jindrich77................ .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 65
35 . zorgzamesnip.............. .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 63
.. . MonicaSelesFan2........... .. 10 .. 6 .. 4 .. 63
37 . aussiefan83............... .. 13 ..10 .. 3 .. 61
38 . broncosven................ .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 60
39 . Edman..................... .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 59
40 . Lee-Waters' Boy........... .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 58
.. . aussie_stars.............. .. 10 .. 6 .. 4 .. 58
.. . raquel.................... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 58
43 . ZAK....................... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 56
44 . ghosts.................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 55
45 . lukehingis................ .. .9 .. 6 .. 3 .. 54
46 . Catriel................... .. 12 .. 4 .. 8 .. 51
47 . bionic71.................. .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 50
48 . korben.................... .. 10 .. 5 .. 5 .. 49
49 . Grice (8)................. .. 11 .. 6 .. 5 .. 47
50 . polishprodigy............. .. 11 .. 3 .. 8 .. 44
.. . Jakub (3)................. .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 44
.. . RyanGiggs................. .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 44
53 . Elisse.................... .. 10 .. 3 .. 7 .. 43
54 . caramel................... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 40
55 . oren987................... .. 10 .. 4 .. 6 .. 38
56 . bartektrz................. .. 11 .. 4 .. 7 .. 36
57 . Jarrett................... .. .8 .. 2 .. 6 .. 28
58 . !.Steven.!................ .. .9 .. 3 .. 6 .. 25
59 . chill1533 (WC)............ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 24
60 . marcobarella.............. .. 10 .. 2 .. 8 .. 15
.. . butch..................... .. 11 .. 2 .. 9 .. 15
62 . yucky..................... .. .8 .. 1 .. 7 .. 12
63 . petosp.................... .. .9 .. 1 .. 8 .. .3
64 . casanovalover (WC)........ .. .5 .. 0 .. 5 .. .0

> Under the far left column represents the league table position of that player, which usually changes on daily basis.

> Under the “P” column are the total number of picks made of that player at a certain time (ie – after the QF or after the whole tournament). This column is important for players to check out how many picks they have left.

> Under the “W” column are the number of picks that player has made correctly. This has no bearing on their final league table position, remember only the total amount of points are considered.

> Similarly, under the “L” column are the number of picks the player has made incorrectly.

> Under the “Pts” column is the total number of points the player has gained through the scoring points of the matches. Again this is continually changing until the final day.

nB:
> (n) denotes the seed of that player, which like the WTA Ranking system is determined through the player’s PAW ranking as of the previous week. Seeded players are not advantaged in any way.

> (WC) represents that that particular player has requested a wildcard to enter the tournament, see the section of commitments for more details about Wildcards.



Re: Rankings


The PAW Ranking System closely mirrors the WTA Ranking System. Ranking Points are awarded according to positions in the Final League Table of each tournament.

12. How do I find out my PAW Ranking?

The PAW Ranking will be updated on a weekly basis (unless there are no tournaments completed that week). The Rankings can be viewed in the PAW Ranking Thread, which will be located in the PAW forum.

Here is an example of the PAW Ranking (top 20 listed) taken from the end of 2003.

-------------------------------Title-------P-O-I-N-T-S-------Next--#--
-#--Lst#--PLAYER-----------CON-Ttl (1y)-Total--Added-17th-18th-Off-TRN

001.(002).SpikeyAidanm.....AUS.__1.__1...2112...34 0.._35.._35..___._33
002.(001).Wojtek...........POL.__6.__4...2010...10 4.._33.._29.._59._36
003.(003).sandg............INA.__2.__2...1711..._3 7.._26.._24..120._36
004.(004).ajayares.........AUS.__5.__3...1594...__ _.._10..__2.._18._20
005.(008).petosp...........VEN.__6.__3...1577...25 2.._16.._16..__8._36
006.(006).speedster_.......INA.__3.__3...1529..._3 7.._31.._27..___._27
007.(015).butch............RSA.__3.__3...1512...48 5.._11..__7..___._29
008.(010).bbypk............ESP.__0.__0...1378...17 8.._20.._20.._20._36
009.(007).Jakub............POL.__3.__1...1330...10 4.._18.._13.._39._34
010.(009).danielrosario....IND.__3.__1...1317..._3 7.._31.._30.._15._36
011.(016).Buitenzorg.......AUS.__1.__0...1171...17 8.._32.._30.._25._37
012.(011).Grice............SIN.__2.__2...1137...10 4.._14.._14..__9._32
013.(005).WTA Handicapper..GBR.__3.__1...1078..._37.._30.._29.._ 95._36
014.(013).Pintaled.........AUS.__1.__1...1070..._3 7.._21..__8..___._24
015.(014).Rtael............CRO.__0.__0...1060..._3 7.._12.._12..___._29
016.(017).K&J fan..........BEL.__0.__0...1050..._37..__9..__8.._ __._24
017.(012).bionic71.........AUS.__2.__0...1035..._3 7.._26.._24..___._36
018.(018).VeNuS FoReVeR....USA.__2.__2..._998...___..__0..__0.._85 ._20
019.(019).aussie_stars.....AUS.__1.__1..._941...__ 0..__0..__0..___._19
020.(020).Elisse...........GBR.__0.__0..._894...__ 0.._17.._17.._12._35

> The column under “#” denotes the rank of that respective player.

> The column under “Lst#” denotes the previous rank of that respective player a week ago.

> The column under “CON” represents the country of that respective player.

nB: It is not compulsory for players to let the PAW Managers know which country they are representing but it is strongly encouraged for country recognition in relation to the “PAW annual Awards.”

> The column under “Ttl” denotes the number of titles (ie – the player finished 1st at a particular tournament) won by the player during that particular year (ie 2003 in the above table).

> The column under the “1 y” denotes the total number of titles won by the player since they started PAW (which started in February 2002)

> The column under “Total” denotes the total number of ranking points, that player holds.

> The column under “Added” indicates the number of ranking points that that player has gained from the past week (all ranking points received each week will be entered in a database for each player)

> The column under “17th” denotes the 17th best tournament total of that player. Since the PAW Ranking is accumulated to the player’s best 17 tournaments throughout a 52 week cycle, this is the “lowest” point total of the top 17, which is added to that player’s rank.

> The column under “18th” denotes the 18th best tournament total of that player. This point total is not added to the PAW Ranking total, however it will be for example when the player loses ranking points (let’s say their 10th best tournament points) from a year ago, and then the 11th best tournament would turn into their 10th best, and their 18th best would become their 17th best etc…

> The column under “Off” represents the number points that player will lose the next week (also known as points to defend) as a result for their tournament performances from exactly a year ago.

> The final column under “TRN” represents the total number of tournaments that player has participated in a 52 week cycle.

13. How are ranking points distributed?

For example from the above Leipzig tournament, ranking points are offered to the following places as follows:

1st --- 195 ...... 8th ---- 41 ...... 15th --- 18 ...... 22nd ---- 7
2nd --- 137 ...... 9th ---- 35 ...... 16th --- 15 ...... 23rd ---- 6
3rd --- 101 ...... 10th --- 32 ...... 17th --- 12 ...... 24th ---- 5
4th ---- 80 ...... 11th --- 29 ...... 18th --- 11 ...... 25th ---- 4
5th ---- 65 ...... 12th --- 26 ...... 19th --- 10 ...... 26th ---- 3
6th ---- 57 ...... 13th --- 24 ...... 20th ---- 9 ...... 27th ---- 2
7th ---- 49 ...... 14th --- 21 ...... 21st ---- 8 ...... 28th ---- 1

14. What happens if I finish equal 3rd with two other players, does that mean the 3rd, 4th and 5th position are determined through who has the best win-loss ratio?

No, remember the number of matches you pick correctly or incorrectly has no bearing whatsoever on your final position, it is your total scoring points that counts. So you would finish co-equal 3rd with three other competitors in the situation.

15. What happens if I finish equal 10th with another player, does that mean we both earn 32 points that week?

No, players that finish with the same number of points of a certain number of other players, are awarded “average points.”

For example if two players finish equal 10th, each would earn ( 32+ 29 ) / 2 = 30.5 points (see the above table). If three players finished equal 10th, each would earn ( 32 + 29 + 26) / 3 = 29 points.



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16. Are the games PAW(s) Doubles, PAW ITF and PAW Qualifying related to this game?

No, and they never will be. These game are run by different people and have different rules.

17. OK, I’ve read everything and understood it and I would like to play, so what do I do now?

Just go to the current PAW commitment thread which is located in the PAW forum and post, “I commit to….,” the tournaments available, that can be seen on the first post of that thread. You must have posted a commitment before the deadline (which is two days before the start of main draw play or else you will have to apply for a wildcard). Remember you can play just one PAW game at a time. Even when more than one tournament is run simultaneously, and there are PAW games for each of them, you must commit to one tournament.



Final Re: Commitments


If there is one tournament a week:

All players that committed to that tournament before the deadline may enter, those that can't may apply for a wildcards (however only 5 wildcards limited per tourney and 2 per player)

If there is two/three tournaments a week:

If each of the tournaments has a minimum of 12 commitments before the deadline, two/three tournaments will go ahead.

If one of the tournament fails to reach 12 commitments, those players who committed to that tourney are automatically forwarded to the highest tiered tourney of that week (in the case of 2 tournaments per week), or the players that committed to that tournament will be forwarded to the second highest tiered tournament (in the case of 3 tournaments per week).

If you are finding all of that complicated to absorb, don't worry it was the same for me too, it takes time to adapt but it is a game of fun and is worthwhile to play


Current PAW Management Committee:

Head Manager: SpikeyAidanm
Rankings Consulting Manager: sandg
Sub League Table Managers (subject to change): andrew_uk, crazillo, geegables, ghosts, jrm, nave 2, Nir, nitsansh, Ranadalara, sandg, SpikeyAidanm, zorgzamesnip

Please feel free to post or PM the PAW staff with any questions.


Cheers, Good Luck and Happy picking!
SpikeyAidanm

linus
09-01-2005, 08:57 PM
:lol:

omg, shaking me in shaking :eek: :eek: :eek:

i gave up it, sorry :eek: :eek:

linus
09-02-2005, 12:00 AM
good ljubo won over in 4 sets :yeah:

to be a better student right :lol:

Fergie
09-02-2005, 12:25 AM
78 Ale10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 08 . . . 05 . . . 03 . . . 61
.. Fergie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 07 . . . 05 . . . 02 . . . 61
.. RDucky . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . 09 . . . 04 . . . 61

we are tied :rolls: PAW
:lol:

Well done Ivan, now is time to kill Gasquet! :devil:

El Legenda
09-02-2005, 01:40 AM
:woohoo: i just came home and saw the score...i was driving back from school.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-02-2005, 05:05 AM
Ha he did won the second match! :eek::clap2::crazy: But there is no statistics about this match! :o

El Legenda
09-02-2005, 05:25 AM
Ha he did won the second match! :eek::clap2::crazy: But there is no statistics about this match! :o

i cant find the stats....but i really wanna see...im not sure whats going on with Ivan 1st serve

at one point of match from 4-4 i think in 1st..to 3-3 in 2nd..IVAN WON 27 STRAIGHT PTS on serve...then next 3 games he goes down 00-40 twices saved it..then 3rd time got broken... so i dont know what to think about the serve...maybe we will see him vs Gasquet on TV a litte on Saturday. :yeah:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-02-2005, 05:56 AM
i cant find the stats....but i really wanna see...im not sure whats going on with Ivan 1st serve

at one point of match from 4-4 i think in 1st..to 3-3 in 2nd..IVAN WON 27 STRAIGHT PTS on serve...then next 3 games he goes down 00-40 twices saved it..then 3rd time got broken... so i dont know what to think about the serve...maybe we will see him vs Gasquet on TV a litte on Saturday. :yeah:

From what I've heard in your post,he played :yeah: !His serve :bigclap: !Maybe his back injury is alright. :D But Guga suffers from it now and lost to Tommy! :sobbing: I hate this injury. :armed: HATE!

El Legenda
09-02-2005, 06:08 AM
I think Ivan can win this in 3 or 4

6-4 6-7 6-4 6-3

the word is Gasquet elbow is forcing him to serve bad

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-02-2005, 08:03 AM
If Ivan play the level like he did in last match,he can win. ;)

El Legenda
09-02-2005, 11:09 PM
Ivan vs Gasquet On Armstrong 1st match of the day.

El Legenda
09-02-2005, 11:53 PM
well now that Ancic. lost. Ivan is only one left to carry Crotian tennis, just like in DC. :lol:

linus
09-03-2005, 12:01 AM
you guy, dont say it in that way, you know, it has nothing to Mario himself :(

in your eyes, you wouldnt hate mario at all, so dont compare or make any competition between them otherwise you would not own the right to blame the others who compare ljubo with them, right?

i knew you would do something for ljubo coz you love him, we all like him, and i like mario too but never think of mario should beyond ljubo or else, they would be friends and mario not a bad guy;

as for who is the #1, not for us to say out, it is so ... :lol: they would show off themselves according to the tennis' rules,

guy, you would make some ones who would like to be kind to ljubo run away coz no one could in this circle no peace :sad:

linus
09-03-2005, 12:11 AM
ivan just a man, mario just a guy, they not in fight, it is you made them looked like ... it is your fault, you need to face it; though you didnt push to me, but i was hurt a lil bit you know i like ivan so much, for it, you could get the truth from the RIDI...TR, but now i was tired of that, you know, it made me so unhappy and tired, i wouldnt dare to ask you for any info of ivan, i didnt know why

you are a good guy too, and it is not good for ivan in my eyes, it is the key. ivan needs more supports and deserve them too, i 101% agree, i did it really, so please, please you guy, just kidding is all right, not made others frustrated, all of us enjoy the tennis first then tennis guys, they did this also

anyway, i still give my good luck to ljubo, not for yours, just for my love to ljubo now :angel:

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 12:33 AM
ivan just a man, mario just a guy, they not in fight, it is you made them looked like ... it is your fault, you need to face it; though you didnt push to me, but i was hurt a lil bit you know i like ivan so much, for it, you could get the truth from the RIDI...TR, but now i was tired of that, you know, it made me so unhappy and tired, i wouldnt dare to ask you for any info of ivan, i didnt know why

you are a good guy too, and it is not good for ivan in my eyes, it is the key. ivan needs more supports and deserve them too, i 101% agree, i did it really, so please, please you guy, just kidding is all right, not made others frustrated, all of us enjoy the tennis first then tennis guys, they did this also

anyway, i still give my good luck to ljubo, not for yours, just for my love to ljubo now :angel:
okay that was hard to read but i got what your saying and my respond is you dont know whats been going on in Croatia Tennis Federation.

linus
09-03-2005, 12:38 AM
if i was happy, i would like to listen to you

but then why god let mario and others to be punished instead of C.T. F?

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 12:46 AM
if i was happy, i would like to listen to you

but then why god let mario and others to be punished instead of C.T. F?

dont worry about it, everything is okay :hug: :yeah:

Fergie
09-03-2005, 01:22 AM
Go Ivan, win in 3 sets please :angel:

I will bet all my vcash in Ivan, so better you win the match :lol:

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 03:49 AM
The Match starts in less the about 11hours and 10min :woohoo: Win means, Ivan is playing in 2nd week of GS :)

Fergie
09-03-2005, 03:55 AM
The Match starts in less the about 11hours and 10min :woohoo: Win means, Ivan is playing in 2nd week of GS :)
For the first time? :confused:

Go Ivan, do it in 3 sets!!!

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 01:09 PM
For the first time? :confused:

well if you dont court doubles...him and mario made in to QF in 2003 at USO

Fergie
09-03-2005, 01:11 PM
well if you dont court doubles...him and mario made in to QF in 2003 at USO
Yeah, I knew that ;)

Less than 2 hours for the match ... Go Ivan!!! :bounce:

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 01:13 PM
Yeah, I knew that ;)

Less than 2 hours for the match ... Go Ivan!!! :bounce:

:yeah: maybe ill see little bit of the match in US...just need Henin over at Ashe to get early break, then they will which to this match :) :angel:

Fergie
09-03-2005, 01:17 PM
No chance for me to see the match :( ... But at least I will have the updates :lol:

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 01:22 PM
No chance for me to see the match :( ... But at least I will have the updates :lol:

check in here, if they show the match on TV..ill post on how both are playing :) :wavey:

Fergie
09-03-2005, 01:46 PM
check in here, if they show the match on TV..ill post on how both are playing :) :wavey:
Thanks, I will try to be here ;)

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 02:03 PM
what time is it over there ?

Fergie
09-03-2005, 02:10 PM
The same as NY ... 10:10 am now ;)

Mane
09-03-2005, 02:44 PM
Ajmo jarane!

croat123
09-03-2005, 07:17 PM
pathetic, simply pathetic

mentally the weakest player out there. actually returned better than gasquet in the fourth set but 4 of the 6 points he lost on serve came in one game. so typical :fiery:

El Legenda
09-03-2005, 07:28 PM
pathetic, simply pathetic

mentally the weakest player out there. actually returned better than gasquet in the fourth set but 4 of the 6 points he lost on serve came in one game. so typical :fiery:

in few weeks ur jumping back on the bandwagen as Ivan & Mario take croatia to DC final..

Fergie
09-03-2005, 08:22 PM
Ivan :smash:

Sorry but I'm a bit disappointed with the result :p

croat123
09-04-2005, 01:11 AM
in few weeks ur jumping back on the bandwagen as Ivan & Mario take croatia to DC final..
i never jumped off. i've been a fan since he played challengers. i'm just so pissed cause whenever he gets a chance to accomplish something in a big tournament, he ALWAYS fucks up. btw, ivan and mario lost 7-6(6) in the third set in doubles :fiery:

El Legenda
09-04-2005, 01:37 AM
i never jumped off. i've been a fan since he played challengers. i'm just so pissed cause whenever he gets a chance to accomplish something in a big tournament, he ALWAYS fucks up. btw, ivan and mario lost 7-6(6) in the third set in doubles :fiery:

its not like he's not trying out there. he even played hurt today. thats why he bearly served over 120..his avg serve normaly is 128-133 and today avg was 120 with most going 110-118

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-04-2005, 09:25 AM
Again...couldn't take fucking SPs in the 2nd set and finally lost again! :fiery::armed::banghead:
I'm pessimistic. :zzz: I doubt they can make it in the DC (SF) final!Now take rests to heal the back injury. :)

linus
09-04-2005, 11:38 AM
ljubo was not strong inside enough though just a lil necessary :sad:

at least on the court

if back injury worked there, omg, :hug: ljubo, take care of yourself and get well asap

waiting back :angel:

bavaria100
09-04-2005, 11:49 AM
What happened to Ivan? I can´t believe this. He´s a pro for 8 years and hasn´t reached the 4th round in a GS till today. This was such a big chance for him. I know that he wasn´t fully fit, but Gasquet was injured too. Now we have to hope for the DC. This might be Ivan´s last chance to win a title this year (I´m not too optimistic for the indoor season either because his record is 9-10 since Monte Carlo).

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-04-2005, 10:03 PM
Oh,even Tommy is better than him a lot in GS! :o

El Legenda
09-05-2005, 04:50 AM
Ivan will be fine for the indoor season, after he wins few match indoor for DC, he is gonna be flying high...im expecting 2 indoor finals...no joke :)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-05-2005, 05:01 AM
I'd rather him winning only 1 title than entering in 2 finals. ;) He hasn't won a tourney for 4 years. :sad:

El Legenda
09-05-2005, 06:37 AM
I'd rather him winning only 1 title than entering in 2 finals. ;) He hasn't won a tourney for 4 years. :sad:

I think he has a good chance on the Indoor's...does have quite few pts to defend since he finished strong last year.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-05-2005, 07:03 AM
I think he has a good chance on the Indoor's...does have quite few pts to defend since he finished strong last year.
I hope so. :) Since he is not a high seed now his draw maybe is tougher. :shrug: Anyway I hope his injury will recover first. :)