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fightclubber
08-21-2005, 06:10 PM
TO OUR CHAMP...
GO FOR THE US OPEN AGAIN.
YOU ARE THE BEST!
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/index.html

Stevens Point
08-21-2005, 06:12 PM
Congratulations for Cincy Masters title!! :banana:

Good luck in the Open, champ!!!!!!!

SUKTUEN
08-21-2005, 06:17 PM
Thanks Silvy~! GO Roger~!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nocko
08-21-2005, 06:44 PM
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
This summer season is for you! :kiss: :kiss:

:angel: Good Luck Roger, grab the USO title! :drive:

Thanks Silvy,for starting this. :worship:

SUKTUEN
08-21-2005, 06:49 PM
very cute Nocko~

Nocko
08-21-2005, 06:55 PM
very cute Nocko~
Thanks! :kiss:

SUKTUEN
08-21-2005, 06:59 PM
Thanks! :kiss:
very CUTE ROGER too~~~:devil:

oneandonlyhsn
08-21-2005, 07:00 PM
Congrats Roger for a great start to the US Open preparation :bigclap: :bigclap:

Good luck in the defence of your US Open title

SUKTUEN
08-21-2005, 07:04 PM
GOOD LUCK Roger!!!!!!!!

yanchr
08-21-2005, 07:05 PM
:hug: Silvy, so in time for the USO thread :bigclap:

SUKTUEN
08-21-2005, 07:13 PM
good night~!

ytben
08-21-2005, 07:14 PM
Silvy, thank you for the thread :kiss: I am feeling better for USO now with your thread here ;)

GOOD LUCK DEFENDING YOUR USO ROGI :bounce: You can do it!

1sun
08-21-2005, 07:15 PM
the big one, show all whos the boss roger

Tennis_Mad
08-21-2005, 07:15 PM
Go for it Rogi!

:worship: :clap2: :bigclap:

SUKTUEN
08-21-2005, 07:17 PM
Silvy may be very busy

Stevens Point
08-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Interview with ESPN after the final in Cincy.

He says he will fly tonight or tomorrow to New York to prepare for the Open, "the most important is preparation".

Q. If you were you, how would you play you? :lol:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/index

You need to register for ESPN Motion to view the interview.

mitalidas
08-21-2005, 10:19 PM
Good luck Roger Federer!!!!

1sun
08-21-2005, 10:27 PM
Interview with ESPN after the final in Cincy.

He says he will fly tonight or tomorrow to New York to prepare for the Open, "the most important is preparation".

Q. If wou were you, how would you play you? :lol:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/index

You need to register for ESPN Motion to view the interview.
is it the video interview?

Stevens Point
08-21-2005, 10:30 PM
is it the video interview?
Yes it is the video interview with ESPN. Not the official tournament interview, though.

1sun
08-21-2005, 10:34 PM
Yes it is the video interview with ESPN. Not the official tournament interview, though.
yeh i saw it, i didnt register, i just kept clicking it and eventualy it came up :lol:

Stevens Point
08-21-2005, 10:35 PM
yeh i saw it, i didnt register, i just kept clicking it and eventualy it came up :lol:
Good for you! :lol:

1sun
08-21-2005, 10:36 PM
it was a good interivew as well, he seemed very relaxed and happy

lunahielo
08-21-2005, 11:33 PM
Silvy~
Thanks for this thread!
Stevens Point~
Thanks for the info!

Fergie
08-22-2005, 01:04 PM
Go Rogi!!! :bounce:

mitalidas
08-22-2005, 01:08 PM
How good does this look?

1stFederer, R. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Federer,+R)1010
2ndNadal, R. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Nadal,+R)838
3rdRoddick, A. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Roddick,+A)547
4thHewitt, L. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Hewitt,+L)400
5thDavydenko, N. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Davydenko,+N)371
6thCoria, G. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Coria,+G)353
7thSafin, M. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Safin,+M)346
8thGaudio, G. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Gaudio,+G)343
9thAgassi, A. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Agassi,+A)315
10thPuerta, M. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Puerta,+M)294

fightclubber
08-22-2005, 02:58 PM
Silvy may be very busyNo Im not too busy! Do you need something??Let me know!!!!!!!
I have to send my pc to the service and I have to save all the files... So was a big work.. But need to have it ready for ... next project...!!
Silvy

1sun
08-22-2005, 03:06 PM
How good does this look?

1stFederer, R. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Federer,+R)1010
2ndNadal, R. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Nadal,+R)838
3rdRoddick, A. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Roddick,+A)547
4thHewitt, L. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Hewitt,+L)400
5thDavydenko, N. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Davydenko,+N)371
6thCoria, G. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Coria,+G)353
7thSafin, M. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Safin,+M)346
8thGaudio, G. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Gaudio,+G)343
9thAgassi, A. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Agassi,+A)315
10thPuerta, M. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Puerta,+M)294
the other players are still kids. there not even on 4 digits

bavaria100
08-22-2005, 04:07 PM
:rocker: Good luck for the US Open Roger! :rocker:

SUKTUEN
08-22-2005, 05:02 PM
Silvy~!!

I also make the DVD Rom of my Roger Federer all file and photos~! :D
Over 17,000 photos~!!! :worship: :worship:

PaulieM
08-22-2005, 05:21 PM
i'm still smiling over yesterday, i hope rogi does well at the uso and i wish him lots of luck, i know he can do it!! :bounce:

1sun
08-22-2005, 07:41 PM
the sraw comes out on wednesday doesnt it? i bet you anything roger will draw safin in the quarters.

MissMoJo
08-22-2005, 10:38 PM
Hopp Rogi! The Federer Expresss heads for the big apple :banana:

SUKTUEN
08-23-2005, 03:17 PM
Roger ~!! Show your Best tennis ~!!

Fergie
08-23-2005, 03:26 PM
i bet you anything roger will draw safin in the quarters.
I don't know why but I have the same feeling ... Would be great if Roge can take revenge from Australia ;)

Skyward
08-23-2005, 03:36 PM
The same feeling is here. If the seeds live up to their ranking, Roger will have to beat Safin, Hewitt and whoever comes from the bottom part.

SUKTUEN
08-23-2005, 03:40 PM
I want Roger meet Andy in Final~!

Fergie
08-23-2005, 03:55 PM
I want Roger meet Andy in Final~!
I don't like this final ... Is too boring see Andy losing over and over again! :lol:

The same with Lleyton ;)

SUKTUEN
08-23-2005, 04:06 PM
I don't like this final ... Is too boring see Andy losing over and over again! :lol:

The same with Lleyton ;)
But I do not like Roger vs Hewitt~! It is the most borning!! :devil:

Fergie
08-23-2005, 04:16 PM
But I do not like Roger vs Hewitt~! It is the most borning!! :devil:
Yeah, at least Andy is a funny guy ;)

SUKTUEN
08-23-2005, 04:35 PM
Yeah, at least Andy is a funny guy ;)
yes~!!!! I LOVE HIM TOO~!! :devil:

ExpectedWinner
08-23-2005, 05:10 PM
Weren't Federer and Safin in the same qt at Wimbledon?

Edit: Never mind. Safin was in Hewitt's qtr

SUKTUEN
08-23-2005, 05:12 PM
Safin play grass is not very well~!

ExpectedWinner
08-23-2005, 05:13 PM
Safin play grass is not very well~!

His game suits the grass. It's up to Peter to put this idea into Safin's head.

PamV
08-23-2005, 06:02 PM
the sraw comes out on wednesday doesnt it? i bet you anything roger will draw safin in the quarters.

The only thing is they might view Safin as a lame player who will go out in the 3rd round. If that's the case they might put him somewhere else.
If they did view Safin as a threat they might also put him in Nadal's Qtr to help out Roddick.

PamV
08-23-2005, 06:03 PM
I don't like this final ... Is too boring see Andy losing over and over again! :lol:

The same with Lleyton ;)

That's some boredom I'd be willing to put up with for the sake of Roger getting his 6th Major !

SUKTUEN
08-23-2005, 06:14 PM
Hope Roger can see Andy in US Openn Final~~! :D

oneandonlyhsn
08-23-2005, 07:29 PM
I want a Safin Fed final :bigclap:

Whistleway
08-23-2005, 07:37 PM
I want a AA vs Fed final. ;)

Stevens Point
08-23-2005, 07:39 PM
I want Roger to win US Open, against who doesn't matter to me... :)

Brianna
08-23-2005, 07:47 PM
Good luck Roger. I will be watching and cheering for you. :)

PaulieM
08-23-2005, 08:19 PM
That's some boredom I'd be willing to put up with for the sake of Roger getting his 6th Major !
:yeah:

lunahielo
08-23-2005, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Stevens Point
I want Roger to win US Open, against who doesn't matter to me...
Hear Hear!!!!! :yeah:

MissMoJo
08-23-2005, 10:09 PM
Yep, just get the title :) doesn't matter who's on the other side of the net

Daniel
08-23-2005, 11:39 PM
US Open Seedings:

Men:
1. Roger Federer, Switzerland :worship:
2. Rafael Nadal, Spain
3. Lleyton Hewitt, Australia
4. Andy Roddick, United States
5. Marat Safin, Russia
6. Nikolay Davydenko, Russia
7. Andre Agassi, United States
8. Guillermo Coria, Argentina
9. Gaston Gaudio, Argentina
10. Mariano Puerta, Argentina
11. David Nalbandian, Argentina
12. Tim Henman, Great Britain
13. Richard Gasquet, France
14. Thomas Johansson, Sweden
15. Dominik Hrbaty, Slovakia
16. Radek Stepanek, Czech Republic
17. David Ferrer, Spain
18. Ivan Ljubicic, Croatia
19. Tommy Robredo, Spain
20. Juan Carlos Ferrero, Spain
21. Fernando Gonzalez, Chile
22. Mario Ancic, Croatia
23. Jiri Novak, Czech Republic
24. Mikhail Youzhny, Russia
25. Taylor Dent, United States
26. Feliciano Lopez, Spain
27. Olivier Rochus, Belgium
28. Greg Rusedski, Great Britain
29. Tommy Haas, Germany
30. Max Mirnyi, Belarus
31. Carlos Moya, Spain
32. Tomas Berdych, Czech Republic

TenHound
08-24-2005, 01:35 AM
Safin will get well deserved taste of his own medicine, no matter who he plays - he deserves having to play Roger hurt, just as Roger had to play him hurt @Sydney. Have fun Marat. Let's see if you get a match point off him, Sweetie!! :)))

I just hope he doesn't have a hard semi & final - that's the big worry w/no day off between!

nobama
08-24-2005, 01:41 AM
Roger Sighting!!

http://www.rogerfederer.com/en/fanzone/forum/topicview.cfm?uNC=61972480&uPage=4&uTopicID=10048

Poste by Jeri | 01:08

Oh my goodness...I have to share. I just got back from the US Open grounds and watched Roger and Mirka warm up in the Louis Armstrong stadium! He went on at 2:30 this afternoon. First I caught the tail end of Lleyton Hewitt and stayed around to watch Maria Sharapova. When she was finished, I asked the attendent who was coming on next. He said that the stadium wasn't booked until 4 pm, but that Tomas Johanson would be next door in the Grandstand. I thought it odd but I left to walk around the grounds to see if Roger was lurking anywhere. As soon as I exited the stadium, guess who was coming right past me to work out? That's right, Roger, Mirka and his fitness trainer (?). So of course, I turned around and followed them back into Armstrong. At one point, he put his arm around her waist and gave her a kiss...very sweet.

Roger worked out with Mirka for 1/2 hour. She really hits nicely, has beautiful form on both the forehand and the backhand. I wonder if her tennis is getting better because she hits with him all the time. When they were finished, Tomas came over from the Grandstand and he and Roger practiced together for an hour. They did the usual warm-up and then played points against each other. Afterwards, he took the time to sign quite a few autographs. Roger seemed very loose and relaxed. He and Mirka were talking in Swiss German so unfortunately I couldn't understand what they were saying. He was joking with Tomas and his coach on the change overs. Mirka seemed to be working while Roger practiced. She was on her cell phone, reading papers, etc. the entire time...she never looked up at him.

I have tickets for the Open for a few days, but who cares now...this was better! I sat right in the first row. I took a ton of pictures and hope I'll be able to post them here. I never did that before.

lunahielo
08-24-2005, 02:46 AM
Awesome!
Thanks for posting, mirkaland.

I have heard~~from several places~~ that she hits with him at every tournament.
He says it brings him luck. :)

luna

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 02:53 AM
I want a Safin Fed final :bigclap:

That's if Marat is on the opposite side AND if so, he has to beat Rafa... ;)

PamV
08-24-2005, 03:02 AM
Thanks for posting that Mirkaland. I hope we can see some of the pictures too. I wonder who else Roger will practice with?

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 03:14 AM
So Rogi, are you also practising throwing pitches for the Yankees??

Mrs. B
08-24-2005, 08:20 AM
Thanks for posting that Mirkaland. I hope we can see some of the pictures too. I wonder who else Roger will practice with?

Roger practices with other players randomly, sometimes with juniors.

thanks, mirkaland. so, Mirka does train! she's been reading all these nonsense threads about her weight and decided to show 'em! :devil:

nobama
08-24-2005, 11:26 AM
That's if Marat is on the opposite side AND if so, he has to beat Rafa... ;)How do you know Rafa won't get taken out early? ;)

nobama
08-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Roger practices with other players randomly, sometimes with juniors.

thanks, mirkaland. so, Mirka does train! she's been reading all these nonsense threads about her weight and decided to show 'em! :devil:Here's a couple pictures of her. They were posted on Rogi's site. I think the nonsense was about her being preggers (and Roger having a gut :rolleyes: ), not gaining weight. Obviously if you compare her now to several years ago she's gained some weight. But most women do as they get older - it's hard not to. Also I think she's just a bigger-boned person has a bigger upper body so she'd never look "skinny" anyway. But she looks nice and tan, and looks like she has really nice skin.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/JFarago/Mirka2.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/JFarago/Mirka4.jpg

And one of Rogi signing autographs.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/JFarago/RFsigning.jpg

jtipson
08-24-2005, 12:03 PM
Wow. Mirka *does* look fat in these pics, I have to admit. (Not a judgement, just an observation, btw.)

She did used to be slim - you only have to look at the pics of her from the Hopman Cup a few years back when they played together (2002), to see how much weight she has put on. It can't be due to getting older - she's only 27; the normal reason is eating too much and/or not getting enough exercise. She used to be a pro player of course, and seems to have been gaining since stopped playing. She certainly does appear to be bigger than I've ever seen her before. I just hope it's not because she's unhappy.

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 12:41 PM
How do you know Rafa won't get taken out early? ;)

one can only hope... ;)

Puschkin
08-24-2005, 12:50 PM
The US Open draw takes place on Wednesday, 24 August 11.00 a.m. local time

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/index.html

yanchr
08-24-2005, 12:54 PM
The only suspense will be who of the top 4 will have the luck to get Safin in his quarter....Hopefully Nadal the piggy ;)

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 12:59 PM
Just a reminder for those interested:

Roger Rings Bell
Photo By Michael Cole By Tennis Week
08/18/2005

Roger Federer is ready to make some noise in Times Square next week. The world No. 1 isn't planning on commandeering a cab or joining local tourist attraction the Naked Cowboy in a karaoke contest. Instead, the Nasdaq-100 Open champion will ring the opening bell for the Nasdaq Stock Market on Thursday, August 25th at the Nasdaq Market Site located at 4 Times Square on 43rd Street and Broadway.

Federer, who visited Times Square the day after he captured the 2004 U.S. Open to pose for photographers with his U.S. Open title trophy, is scheduled to appear at about 9:20 a.m. Tickets to the 2006 Nasdaq-100 Open go on sale Monday, August 29th by phone. Please call (305) 442-3367 to purchase tickets for the tournament, which will be staged March 22nd-April 2nd at Key Biscayne's Crandon Park.

http://www.sportsmediainc.net/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=13642&bannerregion=

nobama
08-24-2005, 01:02 PM
Wow. Mirka *does* look fat in these pics, I have to admit. (Not a judgement, just an observation, btw.)

She did used to be slim - you only have to look at the pics of her from the Hopman Cup a few years back when they played together (2002), to see how much weight she has put on. It can't be due to getting older - she's only 27; the normal reason is eating too much and/or not getting enough exercise. She used to be a pro player of course, and seems to have been gaining since stopped playing. She certainly does appear to be bigger than I've ever seen her before. I just hope it's not because she's unhappy.You mean unhappy because she can't play professionally anymore? Because I don't get the impression she and Roger are unhappy. The fan who posted these pics on Roger's website said at one point he he put his arm around her waist and gve her a kiss....which I though was sweet. And she also said Mirka was hitting the ball nicely.

I think picking the right clothes would help and tight spandex type tops/leggings is not the thing to wear when you have extra weight around the middle.

nobama
08-24-2005, 01:04 PM
So is Roger going to be at the Yankees game too? Any other media that we know about?

nobama
08-24-2005, 01:10 PM
one can only hope... ;)I'm not concerned about Nadal. He's got six matches (including possibly Hewitt, Roddick or Safin - and I think two of them could end up on his side of the draw) to go before he'd ever meet Roger (assuming Roger goes all the way). If Rafa makes it that far then he deserves to be there. And if he and Roger are in the finals I still put my money on Roger because we all know how he raises his game on Sundays! It'll be tougher for Rafa because he's never played Safin or Roddick on hardcourt, and has never beaten Hewitt on hardcourt. With only one hardcourt win there's a lot of people he hasn't played/beaten on the surface. Roger, on the other hand, has proven he can beat just about anyone on the surface. I still think his greatest win of his career was the tough 5 setter against Agassi in the quarters last year.

Puschkin
08-24-2005, 01:16 PM
I still think his greatest win of his career was the tough 5 setter against Agassi in the quarters last year.
The wind-lottery, OMG, yes. Maybe not the greatest win, but definitely a match which required more than pure tennis skills. It was a triumph of determination and a little bit of luck.

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 01:22 PM
Thanks for those Mirka pictures, mirkaland. She indeed has put on quite a bit of weight over the year, but it seems even quite a bit since Wimbledon. Roger obviously does not care (as best as we know), and why should he--this woman simplifies his life,schedule, and is his best support on the tour.
Still, I do prefer her as she was last year (unless she is currently pregnant, which would be awesome too!)

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 01:25 PM
You mean unhappy because she can't play professionally anymore? Because I don't get the impression she and Roger are unhappy.
I think jtipson means that some people (men and women) gorge when they are depressed, and thus put on weight. And jtipson is saying that hopefully mirka's putting on weight is not due to that

jtipson
08-24-2005, 01:36 PM
You mean unhappy because she can't play professionally anymore? Because I don't get the impression she and Roger are unhappy. The fan who posted these pics on Roger's website said at one point he he put his arm around her waist and gve her a kiss....which I though was sweet. And she also said Mirka was hitting the ball nicely..

No, I meant unhappy full stop. Good to hear that everything seems ok though, but I guess we don't (and don't really want to!) know more.


I think picking the right clothes would help and tight spandex type tops/leggings is not the thing to wear when you have extra weight around the middle.

Yes, you're right about that. The top she wore on Sunday wasn't the best thing either - I'm similar build on the upper half and it would look dreadful on me ;)

Anyway, sorry to digress....back to the US Open!

jtipson
08-24-2005, 01:38 PM
I think jtipson means that some people (men and women) gorge when they are depressed, and thus put on weight. And jtipson is saying that hopefully mirka's putting on weight is not due to that

Exactly.

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 02:07 PM
Okay Guys ---- one hour countdown to the Draw. A lot of good luck starts right here for Roger's defense of his USO crown. Send good vibes out!!!!

ytben
08-24-2005, 02:36 PM
The only suspense will be who of the top 4 will have the luck to get Safin in his quarter....Hopefully Nadal the piggy ;)

Hear hear :devil: At least with that kind of draw, if Rogi makes final, he will only need to play one of these guys. But knowing Rogi's luck with draw.....:tape:

GOOD LUCK ROGI WITH YOUR DRAW!!!!

Regarding Mirka's weight, she has indeed gained quite some weight since the first time I saw her. Understandably though, I think it is very easy for a professional athlete, when they stop their profession, to gain considerable weight. She still has killer legs though :cool:

oneandonlyhsn
08-24-2005, 03:31 PM
Hoping for a good draw for Rogi at the Open :bounce:

lunahielo
08-24-2005, 03:43 PM
when does the draw come out??

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 03:44 PM
Isn't the draw taking place now??

oneandonlyhsn
08-24-2005, 03:45 PM
when does the draw come out??

Sometime today apparently :shrug:

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 03:47 PM
draw at 11am

lunahielo
08-24-2005, 03:53 PM
thanks

wcr
08-24-2005, 03:54 PM
It must be very hard for Mirka to maintain her formerly trim figure now that she travels so much and doesn't train and compete. She's been gaining weight steadily since she quit the tour. I saw her up close in Gstaad last summer and noted how large she was getting and now, after this 6 week layoff, she's even bigger. She's a beautiful woman and should lay off the rich food and get back her athletic, gorgeous figure. Let Roger eat all the pasta he needs for his matches. Mirka should stick with protein and greens for awhile until she's got her svelt figure back under control.

Skyward
08-24-2005, 04:00 PM
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jtipson
08-24-2005, 04:42 PM
Where's that draw got to? <taps fingers on desk impatiently>

Last year I see it took 3 hours for them to publish though, so I guess I shouldn't hold my breath. Time to go home.

yanchr
08-24-2005, 04:51 PM
Where's that draw got to? <taps fingers on desk impatiently>

Last year I see it took 3 hours for them to publish though, so I guess I shouldn't hold my breath. Time to go home.
Yeah, waiting impatiently for the draw at the moment...

3 hours?? WTF...How can I stay up for another hour just for the damn draw...

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 04:54 PM
Go to bed everyone. :lol: Expect the worst, hope for the best. I have a feeling that his draw will be tricky.

Stevens Point
08-24-2005, 05:00 PM
first round Ivo Minar, according to Eurosport.

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 05:02 PM
first round Ivo Minar, according to Eurosport.

Here we go. Tricky enough. But he hasn't played on hard since March.

SUKTUEN
08-24-2005, 05:06 PM
Is U Open seed will player in this format?
Seed No. 1 vs No. 4
No. 2 vs No. 3 ?

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 05:08 PM
Is U Open seed will player in this format?
Seed No. 1 vs No. 4
No. 2 vs No. 3 ?

No, it's random.

Stevens Point
08-24-2005, 05:18 PM
1st round Ivo Minar
2nd Round Santoro/Melzer
3rd round Montanes/Hanescu/Oli Rochus
4th round Stepanek/Kiefer/Pavel/Lapentti/Ferrero
QF Nalbandian/Moya/Gonzalez/Davydenko
SF Safin/Hewitt

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/msdraw.pdf

yanchr
08-24-2005, 05:26 PM
1st round Ivo Minar
2nd Round Santoro/Melzer
3rd round Montanes/Hanescu/Oli Rochus
4th round Stepanek/Kiefer/Pavel/Lapentti/Ferrero
QF Nalbandian/Moya/Gonzalez/Davydenko
SF Safin/Hewitt

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/msdraw.pdf
Mine (shortened one;) ):

Minar
Melzer/Santoro
Rochus
Ferrero/Kiefer
Nalbandian/Gonzo/Davydenko
Hewitt/Safin
………………

Not a good draw...But anyway Roger will deal with whatever draw he gets

Shy
08-24-2005, 05:31 PM
Marat must be attached to Roger or something. There are in the same half of the draw again.

nobama
08-24-2005, 05:40 PM
I think jtipson means that some people (men and women) gorge when they are depressed, and thus put on weight. And jtipson is saying that hopefully mirka's putting on weight is not due to thatI understand what jtipson meant. I was just thinking out loud what she could be unhappy about (probably isn't unhappy at all anyway). I don't get the sense she and Rog are in a bad place, and I've often wondered if it does bother her that she doesn't play anymore, is just basically relegated to the sidelines.

SUKTUEN
08-24-2005, 06:07 PM
What is the draw? :eek: :eek:

ytben
08-24-2005, 06:12 PM
Well borrowing ExpectedWinner's advise style, the draw is not as bad as I expect, but not as good as I hope :p

Yeah his first round is certainly a bit tricky, I hate teenagers for Rogi's 1st rd :( Although this one thankfully he has played before in Dubai first round I think, and the score was super tight I remember. So Rogi should know what to expect and won't underestimate him I am sure.

I still can't believe StarSports won't cover USO :fiery: So this is two slams they have decided to ignore :mad: It will be a torture to follow a slam from a SB only.....:sad:

SUKTUEN
08-24-2005, 06:21 PM
Is Roger and Andy in the same area?

Skyward
08-24-2005, 06:22 PM
Is Roger and Andy in the same area?

No.

nobama
08-24-2005, 06:36 PM
US Open odds:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050824/mxw004.html?.v=6
Current Odds: (All Odds Subject to Change)

Odds to Win 2005 Men's U.S. Open (favorites)
Roger Federer 5/7
Rafael Nadal 9/2
Andy Roddick 15/2
Marat Safin 15/1
Leyton Hewitt 15/1
Andre Agassi 27/1
David Nalbandian 55/1
Nikolay Davydenko 69/1
Robby Ginepri 79/1
Richard Gasquet 84/1

OK so how can Nadal, who's won exactly one hard court title (and at a tournament where Roger and Marat weren't playing and Andy and Lleyton went out early), be the second fav over past winners like Andy, Lleyton, Marat and Andre? :scratch: I know he's the "hot thing" right now, but has he really proven yet that he can contend at a GS on a fast hard court? I don't get it.

SUKTUEN
08-24-2005, 06:37 PM
No.
So they meet as soon as possible also in final? :eek:

Skyward
08-24-2005, 07:12 PM
So they meet as soon as possible also in final? :eek:

SUKTUEN, they can meet only in the final.

Dirk
08-24-2005, 07:19 PM
Roger has a good draw. He will be fine with whatever comes his way.

SUKTUEN
08-24-2005, 07:20 PM
:D SUKTUEN, they can meet only in the final.
Yes~! :devil:

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 08:21 PM
Federer has to be careful not to get into the long 5 setters with JCF/Kiefer/ Nalbandian, assuming they'll get there. Also, Safin is not a desirable customer in the semis. When Marat reaches semis/final , his head usually starts functioning properly, and that can lead to a looooooooong match with the unknown outcome. At the bottom the projected semis -Roddick- Nadal/Agassi. Even a 5-setter semi between them won't be too long, considering how Roddick plays. All of them would like to see dead tired Federer/Safin in the final.

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 08:24 PM
He has a swwwwwweeet draw, does Roger! The Tennis Gods blessed him!
He would have to face someone tough in the quarters, and of the choices I'm glad its not agassi or roddick. safin is still suspect with his bum knee, and I definitely give Roger the edge here if he we were to meet safin. He will take revenge for the AO!

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 08:27 PM
OK so how can Nadal, who's won exactly one hard court title (and at a tournament where Roger and Marat weren't playing and Andy and Lleyton went out early), be the second fav over past winners like Andy, Lleyton, Marat and Andre? :scratch: I know he's the "hot thing" right now, but has he really proven yet that he can contend at a GS on a fast hard court? I don't get it.

Because odds give much less weight to your history, than to your current performance. Based on how lleyton and safin have done in the last few months, it is definitely not obvious that they are better contenders for the title than nadal. Nadal's record on hard this year can compare to them --obviously, they have the AO, but he lost in a fifth set to hewitt at the AO, then he was within striking range at Miami and then he beat Agassi in Montreal.

I am not sympathetic to his cause at all (the contrary), but I don't think the odds are a surprise after Montreal

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 08:36 PM
He has a swwwwwweeet draw, does Roger! The Tennis Gods blessed him!
He would have to face someone tough in the quarters, and of the choices I'm glad its not agassi or roddick. safin is still suspect with his bum knee, and I definitely give Roger the edge here if he we were to meet safin. He will take revenge for the AO!


Federer and Roddick couldn't meet in the QF.
With Safin you never know, he can beat anybody. If his knee was really terrible, he'd have pulled out. I guess it's managable with medications.
JCF is dangerous too. He can beat Federer on hard on a good day.

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 08:44 PM
Federer and Roddick couldn't meet in the QF.
With Safin you never know, he can beat anybody. If his knee was really terrible, he'd have pulled out. I guess it's managable with medications.
JCF is dangerous too. He can beat Federer on hard on a good day.

yeah, but then Ivo Minar is potentially dangerous too. There are so few very easy matches left, that these comparisons are relative. It was possible that safin ended in his quarter, which would have made his draw difficult, but he didn't. Given that he was going to face one of hewitt/safin/agassi in the semis, and potentially one of them in the quarters, this draw has turned out nice.

Of the top 5, I feel Roger's is the best draw. nadal lleyton safin roddick and agassi each have a much tougher quarter and semi and final possibility, but Roger's is really two tough rounds. I don't think JCF is back on form to be of serious trouble any longer --it will be competitive though

TenHound
08-24-2005, 08:45 PM
I'm relieved that Pandy's in Thug's 1/2. Safin's knee should be about shot by the semis, if his performance & demeanor in Cincy are any indication - now he's talking about surgery again. If things stay on course, the Title Should Be Roger's.

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 08:50 PM
now he's talking about surgery again.

Really? I never trust 100% to what he's saying. He's a bit of a drama queen and loves the attention.

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 08:57 PM
Really? I never trust 100% to what he's saying. He's a bit of a drama queen and loves the attention.

He's saying that so that the competition underestimates his running ability while he runs around retrieving like a Golden Retriever :o

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 09:05 PM
Of the top 5, I feel Roger's is the best draw. nadal lleyton safin roddick and agassi each have a much tougher quarter and semi and final possibility, but Roger's is really two tough rounds. I don't think JCF is back on form to be of serious trouble any longer --it will be competitive though

I think Roddick has the easiest path up until semis. All seeds in his quarter are either injured, or have been invisible on american hc.

Nadal's draw up until qf is a cakewalk.

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 09:12 PM
"Nadal's draw up until qf is a cakewalk."

AA might not even make the qf...

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 09:15 PM
I think Roddick has the easiest patth up until semis. All seeds in his quarter are either injured, or have been invisible on american hc.

Nadal's draw up until qf is a cakewalk.

well, he does have Ljubicic and Ginepri who could give him problems, just like Roger has JCF and possibly old foe Nalbandian in his. roddick does have a decent draw to get deep barring being surprised

But, by seeding, Nadal would to beat 3 recent Champions (agassi, roddick, Roger) to get the hardware here--that's a tall order, coming from a 2nd round best showing. Lets see how this plays out

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 09:30 PM
well, he does have Ljubicic and Ginepri who could give him problems, just like Roger has JCF and possibly old foe Nalbandian in his. roddick does have a decent draw to get deep barring being surprised

But, by seeding, Nadal would to beat 3 recent Champions (agassi, roddick, Roger) to get the hardware here--that's a tall order, coming from a 2nd round best showing. Lets see how this plays out

Ljubicic has a bad back and zero confidence at the moment. Forget about Ginepri, he's already had his time under the sun. If Roddick comes out in a :retard: mood, Ginepri can extend the match to 4 sets.

Federer's draw is not awful, but it does include a few people he's not comfortable with and who are not intimidated by him.

ExpectedWinner
08-24-2005, 09:35 PM
"Nadal's draw up until qf is a cakewalk."

AA might not even make the qf...

It's a possibility. Berdych can take him out. Damn it, the USTA doesn't care about the old man anymore. ;)

mitalidas
08-24-2005, 09:42 PM
Ljubicic has a bad back and zero confidence at the moment. Forget about Ginepri, he's already had his time under the sun. If Roddick comes out in a :retard: mood, Ginepri can extend the match to 4 sets.

Federer's draw is not awful, but it does include a few people he's not comfortable with and who are not intimidated by him.

I would only put nalbandian in that category, especially because he is the only one against whom Roger's record used to be so bad that there could be mentality issues. Maybe its more transparent to say --roddick has a better chance than Roger to go deep, but Roger definitely has a better chance than roddick to win the tournament

PamV
08-24-2005, 10:42 PM
Really? I never trust 100% to what he's saying. He's a bit of a drama queen and loves the attention.

I know what you mean....BUT when Safin lost to Ginepri in Cincy it really looked totally due to his knee problem. It wasn't like he started the match sprinting around and then started complaining about the knee midway because Ginepri out played him. Safin wasn't running from the start of the match. SO....the only way I could see that Safin would be lying about the knee was if he thought it gave him some kind of mental edge going into the USOpen to have people believing his knee was worse than it was. In other words, would he have thrown away his chances in Cincy just to make himself feel like an underdog going into the USOpen? Could it be he performs better when he sees himself as an underdog?

PamV
08-24-2005, 10:47 PM
He's saying that so that the competition underestimates his running ability while he runs around retrieving like a Golden Retriever :o
Do you think he purposely lost to Ginepri in Cincy so that the competition would underestimate him in the USOpen? How far will that carry him with his opponents? Maybe the one he likes to fool is himself?

PamV
08-24-2005, 10:52 PM
"Nadal's draw up until qf is a cakewalk."

AA might not even make the qf...

Wow! Finally I find someone else who agrees with me! Nadal can blow Reynolds, and Jenkins out of the water without hardly trying in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Later he might face Blake in the 3rd round. I can't see Blake winning that but I hope I am surprised.

With Agassi we never know how he will be physically. Even if he gets to the QF he might be too worn out to play well.

mitalidas
08-25-2005, 01:20 AM
Do you think he purposely lost to Ginepri in Cincy so that the competition would underestimate him in the USOpen? How far will that carry him with his opponents? Maybe the one he likes to fool is himself? No, Ginepri outplayed Marat. Maybe you recall Ginepri took Roger to three sets, including 7-5 in one. Ginepri played exceedingly well in Cincy and I would nt have been surprised if he had beaten Roger that day, it was that class

As for Safin pretending to have a bum knee, come on surely you can tell its a joke

PamV
08-25-2005, 02:18 AM
No, Ginepri outplayed Marat. Maybe you recall Ginepri took Roger to three sets, including 7-5 in one. Ginepri played exceedingly well in Cincy and I would nt have been surprised if he had beaten Roger that day, it was that class

As for Safin pretending to have a bum knee, come on surely you can tell its a joke

To me it looked like Safin wasn't able to run, plain and simple. He arrived to the match with his knee taped and he was hardly moving. The knee even looked a little swollen.

Skyward
08-25-2005, 02:38 AM
Safin lost in the first round last year. He has nothing to defend. If he's not fit to play, it'd be smart to withdraw and prepare for the indoor season.

Skyward
08-25-2005, 02:53 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/tennis/wires/08/24/3000.ap.ten.us.open.draw.bjt.1st.ld.writethru.0674/index.html

NEW YORK (AP) - The draw for the U.S. Open held as much drama for Roger Federer as most of his matches.

He didn't much care how it turned it out, who he played in the first round next Monday or who he might play in the rounds that follow. He was off in his own world Wednesday, sleeping late, then practicing at the National Tennis Center while the draw went on with a bit of pretentious ceremony across the East River at the United Nations.




Federer's confidence couldn't be much higher than it is now after winning his 22nd consecutive tournament final by beating Andy Roddick in straight sets on the hard courts at Cincinnati last Sunday and remaining comfortably No. 1 in the ATP rankings for the 82nd week in a row.

Federer, the defending U.S. Open champion and winner of his third straight Wimbledon title last month, knows he could always fall victim to injury, illness or the odd circumstance but there doesn't seem to be anyone with a realistic chance of beating the Swiss star through the quarters. He is seeded to meet No. 5 Marat Safin in the semis, and Safin has been compromised recently by a balky knee.

"Any draw for him is a good one,'' Patrick McEnroe, the U.S. Davis Cup captain and CBS commentator, said of Federer :retard:. "For the men, it's Federer and everyone else.''

No. 2 Rafael Nadal, the French Open champion from Spain, could meet No. 7 Andre Agassi in the quarters. Nadal beat Agassi in Montreal recently for his ninth ATP title this year - tying him with Federer.

"Andre would be happy with another shot against Nadal,'' McEnroe said.

Agassi, 35, might be happy to get that far after struggling with his sore back and sciatic pain down his leg the past few months. He lost in the first round of the French Open when his back injury flared up, skipped Wimbledon and won his first title in almost a year at Los Angeles last month before his back started hurting again.

The No. 4 Roddick, the winner of the men's U.S. Open Series who is playing for double the $1.1 million top prize, appeared to have an easy draw through to the semis, where he could meet Nadal or Agassi.

TenHound
08-25-2005, 04:55 AM
Anybody but me want to barf that they had the gall, given this Admin's history w/the UN, to have the draw there........Speaking of Drama Queens!!

Sure, Marat is emotional, he's the inheritor of Goran's Mad Bomber legacy, except that PL is threatening to screw it up by teaching him more sophisticated means of handling his feelings, but he is neither stable, strong, nor healthy now. He tried some new experimental treatment that would bypass surgery which would put him out 6-12 mos., but then didn't listen to the doctors when they told him he needed to rest it longer afterwards. So, he seems to be a genuine mess at the moment.

Speaking of draws the aging weary Henman will be lucky to earn enough to pay for his private chartered jet!!

Thanks for the update on Lubj's disappearance since that dazzling winter showing.

Puschkin
08-25-2005, 08:27 AM
Federer's draw is not awful, but it does include a few people he's not comfortable with and who are not intimidated by him.

True, but he has played them before and knows what it takes to beat them. By the same token, Kiefer, JCF, Nalbandian did not too well themselves, recently. JCF might be the most dangerous one.

:topic: My dream match Marat/Nadal is very likely not going to take place at the US Open, keep waiting.

Fergie
08-25-2005, 12:34 PM
:topic: My dream match Marat/Nadal is very likely not going to take place at the US Open, keep waiting.
I'm waiting for this match too ;)

Hopp Rogi, take the title again! :bounce:

Purple Rainbow
08-25-2005, 01:10 PM
Good draw for Roger! Not likely to be troubled in the first week. It will be interesting if he faces Safin, though I think Marat's injury will prevent him from being a big threat at the USO this year!
Good luck, Roger!

RogiFan88
08-25-2005, 01:11 PM
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nobama
08-25-2005, 01:18 PM
Anyone know if Roger's throwing out the first pitch at the Yankee's game today? Someone on Roger's site posted a photo of him throwing a tennis ball like a baseball at practice the other day and said when he was practicing with TOJO he threw the ball back to him like that several times. Makes me think maybe he will and he was warming up for this? Roger's never played baseball or thrown a pitch before has he?

Blaze
08-25-2005, 01:21 PM
Anyone know if Roger's throwing out the first pitch at the Yankee's game today? Someone on Roger's site posted a photo of him throwing a tennis ball like a baseball at practice the other day and said when he was practicing with TOJO he threw the ball back to him like that several times. Makes me think maybe he will and he was warming up for this? Roger's never played baseball or thrown a pitch before has he?


:) I'm not sure but let me check the yankees site and see. Also I will ask my cousin to see if he throws the pitch cuz she will be watching the game.

Lleytonluver
08-25-2005, 02:58 PM
hey i just wanted to say good luck to roger even though he doesn't need it but didn't it seem like he was a little sluggish at cincy?

ExpectedWinner
08-25-2005, 03:01 PM
As for Safin pretending to have a bum knee, come on surely you can tell its a joke

He's not pretending. But nobody on this level can compete with a bum knee. He could have had a cortisone shot, or some other crap to take care of the pain temporary. The bottom line- if Safin somehow gets into the second week, forget about his physical handicap.

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08-25-2005, 03:56 PM
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1sun
08-25-2005, 04:34 PM
ferrero in 16s. i aint loven that. ferrero is really hitting the ball hard and sweetly. he played great against roger in wimbledon, roger really has to play well to beat him. if roger aint on his game then ferrero can definately beat him. other than that, its not bad, not too worried about nabs. i was hoping safin wold be in nadals quarter but o well. nadal has a piss easy draw. should breeze into the quarters. but i expect him to be troubled by agassi and then beaten by roddick.

Sjengster
08-25-2005, 05:28 PM
Anyone know if Roger's throwing out the first pitch at the Yankee's game today? Someone on Roger's site posted a photo of him throwing a tennis ball like a baseball at practice the other day and said when he was practicing with TOJO he threw the ball back to him like that several times. Makes me think maybe he will and he was warming up for this? Roger's never played baseball or thrown a pitch before has he?

Fortunately he has a good grounding in cricketing technique which shows itself whenever he bowls his wristband into the crowd following a victory. Throwing a pitch in baseball (I nearly put the p and b the wrong way round there :o ) shouldn't be too different.

Skyward
08-25-2005, 06:05 PM
Wertheim's report

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jon_wertheim/08/24/usopen.men/index.html

He predicts Federer-Monfils semi :rolleyes:

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:30 PM
Wertheim's report

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jon_wertheim/08/24/usopen.men/index.html

He predicts Federer-Monfils semi :rolleyes:
is he serious? that must be a mistake

RogiNie
08-25-2005, 06:43 PM
Wertheim's report

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jon_wertheim/08/24/usopen.men/index.html

He predicts Federer-Monfils semi :rolleyes:

Monfils?? gosj.. he really has much confidence in that guy! maybe once he'll reach the semifinal in a GS, but not already..

Blaze
08-25-2005, 07:31 PM
Just watch Roder do a 7 minute interview on ESPNews.

It was basically the routine questions and nothing really "wow".

Except that the guy was trying to get him to pinpoint a specific player that he fears and he said basically all the guys right below him could beat him on any given day.

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08-25-2005, 07:38 PM
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MissMoJo
08-25-2005, 07:52 PM
Except that the guy was trying to get him to pinpoint a specific player that he fears and he said basically all the guys right below him could beat him on any given day.
This question seems to come up alot :confused: Were other #1's asked this repeatedly too?

SUKTUEN
08-25-2005, 07:57 PM
thanks for the link

RogiFan88
08-25-2005, 09:04 PM
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08-25-2005, 09:38 PM
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nobama
08-26-2005, 01:12 AM
Just watch Roder do a 7 minute interview on ESPNews.

It was basically the routine questions and nothing really "wow".

Except that the guy was trying to get him to pinpoint a specific player that he fears and he said basically all the guys right below him could beat him on any given day.Well what was interesting is Roger said he's glad he won the US Open once. There was no talk like at Wimbledon where he said only winning the tournament would be satisfactory. I think he's trying to lower expectations a bit....since everyone has basically already put his name on the trophy.

PamV
08-26-2005, 01:35 AM
Well what was interesting is Roger said he's glad he won the US Open once. There was no talk like at Wimbledon where he said only winning the tournament would be satisfactory. I think he's trying to lower expectations a bit....since everyone has basically already put his name on the trophy.

I don't blame him for trying to lower expectations. The US Open isn't like home to him the way Wimbledon is. He had to fight hard last year with the wind match and the rain delay etc. You never know what's going to happen at the US Open. Plus I don't think the tournament is going to be neutral about fairness in scheduling matches and delays etc. They will favor Roddick and Agassi.

nobama
08-26-2005, 02:24 AM
Roger is very well liked (well, except for the new anti-fed troll in GM :lol: ) so I can't see them messing with his matches or anything. I was really surprised with the crowd reaction in Cincy. I thought for sure it would be more muted because they were pulling for Andy. But I think people really like Roger - not just because he's so good, but because he's just an all-around nice guy who's good for the sport. I have a feeling he'll get a good reception at the US Open.

TenHound
08-26-2005, 02:51 AM
Mirkaland, he may get a good reception, but come rain, they'll do everything possible to rig things in Pandy's favor. Recall the rain year - when, surprise, Pandy was the only player to get his matches in so he could be rested enough to win. All the players were furious at the naked favoritism. Then last yr. w/what AA said was the worst wind he'd ever played through, was luck... Probably it's memories like that that lead Roger to be prudent...then throw in memories of AO where he went in yapping about defending. I was surprised that he went as far as he did in discussing his desire to defend @Wimby. By keeping his mouth shut he reduces the external pressure, in an environment in which everything gets ridiculously amplified anyway. NY press would love nothing more than to twist it into Federer the Arrogant headline to fire up the contenders...


Then if the Gods & Goddess are smiling, we can sit back & delight in a final as beautifully played as last year!!

RogiFan88
08-26-2005, 03:01 AM
...and AA being a wind player...

Skyward
08-26-2005, 03:07 AM
I'm watching Haas-Blake match. Cliff's just said that the USO courts are a lot slower this year...

nobama
08-26-2005, 03:25 AM
There were people who thought Roger got a break at Wimbledon because he had a day off before the finals and Andy didn't - and they didn't have Andy/Tojo play on a different court just to get the match in. I think all this favoritism crap is as silly as "the draw is rigged" crap. The only thing I will agree with is Andy and Andre will probably get a lot of night matches. But if one or both crash out early we'll see more of Roger at night I think.

Skyward
08-26-2005, 03:29 AM
. The only thing I will agree with is Andy and Andre will probably get a lot of night matches. But if one or both crash out early we'll see more of Roger at night I think.

Roger and Andy/Andre will be playing on different days.

Fergie
08-26-2005, 03:50 AM
Roger and Andy/Andre will be playing on different days.
That's for sure ;)

TenHound
08-26-2005, 04:51 AM
Mirkaland, then you don't remember that USO yr. The anger of the players toward the extreme favoritism shown Americans was openly discussed on espn. It annoys me that too much weight is given to tv ratings over making things as even as possible for the players. They can always show matches pushed to outer courts on tape. I feel very strongly that at the Majors which are supposed to showcase the best tennis of the year, that Everything should be done to enhance the tennis & make the competition as fair as possible.

Speaking of things like that, I really wish they don't move men's semis to Fri. late afternoon-evening...say 4-midnight range, so the guys can rest before the finals. I heard they were considering it. Anybody know anything about that? Supposing the first semi was a marathon; and the 2nd a quickie. It would make for a crappy final...not to mention seriously advantage the younger player, or one whose game is less energy intensive - see Pete v. AA. AA was much more tired than Pete in their last final. If Roger has easy semi, and AR-Thugs play a marathon, I'd feel cheated in the final. Every other major works it out. And I would think Fri. evening ratings would be outstanding.

Oriental_Rain
08-26-2005, 05:26 AM
I am getting tired of Fed and Safin being drawn together. why not Fed- ARod in semis for a change, as if Roddick will be the one who will challenge Fed anyway.

nobama
08-26-2005, 11:20 AM
Hey I'm just glad there are no good Americans on Roger's side of the draw. I know some will probably say that the draw was rigged so an American could make it to the finals more easily. But I watched James Blake/Tommy Hass last night at Pilot Pen and I though the crowd played a part in the match. They were quite loud and of course openly supporting Blake. At least Roger won't have to deal with a hostile crowd.

nobama
08-26-2005, 11:22 AM
I am getting tired of Fed and Safin being drawn together. why not Fed- ARod in semis for a change, as if Roddick will be the one who will challenge Fed anyway.What about Hewitt? I'm sure he wishes he'd be on the other side of Roger for a change.

nobama
08-26-2005, 11:28 AM
Mirkaland, then you don't remember that USO yr. The anger of the players toward the extreme favoritism shown Americans was openly discussed on espn. It annoys me that too much weight is given to tv ratings over making things as even as possible for the players. They can always show matches pushed to outer courts on tape. I feel very strongly that at the Majors which are supposed to showcase the best tennis of the year, that Everything should be done to enhance the tennis & make the competition as fair as possible.I guess what I don't understand is it seems to me the majority of people who watch this stuff are real tennis fans and they'll want to see the best matches. Of course the networks are trying to widen the audience. But I can tell you I have friends and family that aren't tennis fans, but if they did watch they'd be just as interested in seeing Roger than Andy or Andre. I think the idea that non-tennis fans will just want to see American players isn't true. Maybe that was true a few years back when Pete and Andre and the Williams sisters were dominant. But I don't think that's the case any more.

PamV
08-26-2005, 12:14 PM
I'm watching Haas-Blake match. Cliff's just said that the USO courts are a lot slower this year...

He also said that the tennis balls for the men are slower and the tennis balls for the women are faster. I wonder why they want to slow everything down? The faster the better for Roddick. Slowing everything down helps Nadal and the clay courters.

PamV
08-26-2005, 12:20 PM
Mirkaland, he may get a good reception, but come rain, they'll do everything possible to rig things in Pandy's favor. Recall the rain year - when, surprise, Pandy was the only player to get his matches in so he could be rested enough to win. All the players were furious at the naked favoritism. Then last yr. w/what AA said was the worst wind he'd ever played through, was luck... Probably it's memories like that that lead Roger to be prudent...then throw in memories of AO where he went in yapping about defending. I was surprised that he went as far as he did in discussing his desire to defend @Wimby. By keeping his mouth shut he reduces the external pressure, in an environment in which everything gets ridiculously amplified anyway. NY press would love nothing more than to twist it into Federer the Arrogant headline to fire up the contenders...


Then if the Gods & Goddess are smiling, we can sit back & delight in a final as beautifully played as last year!!

Those are some good points. Also despite the fact that fans love Roger, the organizers will be influenced by the Sports Agencies and Sponsors to favor Roddick. Roger doesn't have a Sports Agency behind him....caring about his winning.

You are right that yapping about defending only creates more pressure. I think half of Safin's knee problems could be psychological to reduce the pressure of winning in a major. Any way the haters already call Roger arrogant for any positive thing he says about his chances.

PamV
08-26-2005, 12:26 PM
There were people who thought Roger got a break at Wimbledon because he had a day off before the finals and Andy didn't - and they didn't have Andy/Tojo play on a different court just to get the match in. I think all this favoritism crap is as silly as "the draw is rigged" crap. The only thing I will agree with is Andy and Andre will probably get a lot of night matches. But if one or both crash out early we'll see more of Roger at night I think.

That was pure luck in that case. They gave Roddick the prime later match time so it would be good for television. However it happened to start rainning and Roddick's match got delayed. Their wanting to showcase Roddick in a late time slot is what did it to them.

I don't think the favoritism is crap at all. I think there is some rigging of the draw also. We always see Americans in easier slots. We see Roger with the same quarter as in Wimbledon. We never see a tougher seed in with Roddick they always give him Coria or Henman aor Gaudio etc.

nobama
08-26-2005, 01:05 PM
That was pure luck in that case. They gave Roddick the prime later match time so it would be good for television. However it happened to start rainning and Roddick's match got delayed. Their wanting to showcase Roddick in a late time slot is what did it to them.

I don't think the favoritism is crap at all. I think there is some rigging of the draw also. We always see Americans in easier slots. We see Roger with the same quarter as in Wimbledon. We never see a tougher seed in with Roddick they always give him Coria or Henman aor Gaudio etc.I understand about the TV and all, but some would argue the should've moved the Andy/Tojo match to Court 1 to get it in on that Friday. But I don't think they would've played both semis at the same time it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway.

As far as the draw....if it really was rigged don't you think they'd want to create the possibility for an all American final? And put Agassi in Roger's half as he came close to beating Roger last year? So then there would be the possibility of a Agassi/Roddick final? All the good American players are on the same side of the draw. I know Henman's been out of form this year, but he did make the semis last year so I wouldn't agree that Henman is an easy opponent. And James Blake drew Rusedski R1. That certainly won't be an easy match. I think this draw rigging nonsense is as silly as those who claim the top players are doping too but the ATP just choses to cover it up and instead picks on Spaniards and Argentines to show they're tough on drugs.

Skyward
08-26-2005, 02:54 PM
He also said that the tennis balls for the men are slower and the tennis balls for the women are faster. I wonder why they want to slow everything down? The faster the better for Roddick. Slowing everything down helps Nadal and the clay courters.

I don't know. Gilbert has been mumbling about Roddick liking slower courts for a few weeks now. :confused:

ExpectedWinner
08-26-2005, 03:09 PM
I think this draw rigging nonsense is as silly as those who claim the top players are doping too but the ATP just choses to cover it up and instead picks on Spaniards and Argentines to show they're tough on drugs.

They don't pick on Spaniards. Their federation is not poor and quite powerful now.
When Safin missed the whole season with the wrist injury, some russian newspapers suggested that it was a "silent" drug bun on him. Of course, you can't trust 100% the media because there's always a "yellow" element.
Now I truly expect to be bunned from the MTF. :p

PamV
08-26-2005, 03:18 PM
I don't know. Gilbert has been mumbling about Roddick liking slower courts for a few weeks now. :confused:

Wouldn't a faster court help his serves be more unreturnable?

Skyward
08-26-2005, 03:41 PM
Wouldn't a faster court help his serves be more unreturnable?

Gilbert says that a slower court helps him on the return and his serve is still effective.

RogiFan88
08-26-2005, 03:48 PM
What about Hewitt? I'm sure he wishes he'd be on the other side of Roger for a change.

...I think all players wish they were on the opposite side to ROGI!

Yeah, getting tired of seeing the same matchups over and over again... boring! :p

SUKTUEN
08-26-2005, 07:54 PM
Beat nadal Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skyward
08-26-2005, 11:05 PM
http://www.tennis-x.com/story/2005-08-26/c.php

US Open Preview: Federer Cakewalk, Roddick Struggle

By Richard Vach, Tennis-X.com Senior Writer

Betting against Roger Federer to win this year's US Open is about as smart as, say, putting $100 on Guillermo Canas to win.


Or to carry the Argentine flag at the next Olympics. Or to be seen having a friendly beer this week in Flushing Meadows with World Anti-Doping Agency head Dick Pound.

Speculation that Federer would be vulnerable after a six-week layoff following Wimbledon were dispelled last week in Cincinnati when he fought through a few rusty encounters to emerge at his shot-making best against Andy Roddick in the final.

The victory over Roddick was his 22nd consecutive win in a tournament final, a record that when it ends (apparently with the Swiss needing to twist an ankle or get hit by a meteor during a final) could very well hold for the rest of eternity.

Federer, whose confidence has borderer on arrogance over the last year, with his penchant for stating the obvious -- that no one is beating him on a regular basis -- looks on track to become the first man to repeat at the US Open since Patrick Rafter in 1998.

"I'm not over-confident, just very confident," Federer said. "I just know what I have to do. I know my game's in place now. Once I win a certain number of matches, I know what I can do, what I can't do...I play the percentages I think extremely well in finals, and on big points usually I'm, well, I've been unbeatable."

Always the perfectionist, the Swiss even agonizes on his three losses this year in his 64-3 overall record.

"The one against Safin (Australian Open semifinal) sort of hurt, having match point," Federer said. "I think he got a little lucky winning that point. The Nadal match at the French Open (semifinal), I was just disappointed in my performance because I think I had a big chance to beat him and I wasn't playing my best. But I'm happy with the way things went at the French. The Australian Open, I always know that I can win that tournament no matter what year I'm playing in."

Good to know.

You don't hear many other players saying 'Yeah, I lost but I'm not too miffed because I know I can win this event any time I want.'

"That's why I'm No. 1, you know," Federer says. "There's no secret."

If the two players in a slam final are representative of the two hottest at the moment, then last September Federer gave a preview of the gap between himself and "the rest," feeding Lleyton Hewitt two (2) bagels during the best-of-five set US Open final. And Hewitt wasn't playing badly -- it was simply a clinic.

If the Tennis Gods were handing out praise with this year's US Open draw, then they lavished it on the Swiss, who could likely avoid facing a worthy opponent until the final. Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Agassi ("the rest") to the contrary all have testers lurking in the early rounds, some compounded by injuries.

Injuries have decimated the top ranks of the women's tour this year, and while the top men have done a better job of taking time off and pacing themselves, injuries still lurk.

CNN World Sport writes, "Russian Marat Safin may also press his claims as he eyes a second grand slam of the year, his Australian Open crown coming after beating Federer in an epic semifinal."

In reality the Russian is playing on a knee injury he admits his doctor said needs more time to heal, and that he is potentially risking his career by playing the Open.

For Agassi it could be his last Open, with a sciatic nerve injury causing his back to seize up. The American has been surviving thus far this season with the help of cortisone shots, but grinding out consecutive best-of-five matches on the joint-abusing hardcourts is not a recipe for health.

Federer has been described as the "overwhelming favorite" at this year's Open, but those odds would go way down were he to meet Rafael Nadal in the final. Aside from winning the Masters Series-Canada a couple weeks back, defeating Agassi in the final, the muscle-bound Spaniard led Federer two sets to love in their last hardcourt meeting in best-of-five Miami championship.

Federer looms over the top half of the draw, while Nadal, Roddick, Agassi and Guillermo Coria reside in the bottom section. The temperatures are mild here at the National Tennis Center during qualifying weekend, but are likely to heat up on the courts as players elbow each other to see who can challenge King Rog.

Here is the breakdown of the four quarters of the draw for the 2005 US Open:

Top Quarter
Seeds: (1) Roger Federer, (6) Nikolay Davydeno, (11) David Nalbandian, (16) Radek Stepanek, (20) Juan Carlos Ferrero, (21) Fernando "Gonzo" Gonzalez, (27) Olivier "Coch" Rochus, (31) Carlos Moya
Floaters: Nicolas Kiefer, Peter "Nuclear" Wessels, Christophe "The Roach" Rochus, Marcos "Bombs Over" Baghdatis, Wayne "The Serving Machine" Arthurs, Paradorn "The Thai Fighter" Srichaphan

Did Roger phone this one in?

'Yeah, put in my section -- um, put any seeds that have struggled this summer, and you can toss in a few floaters as long as I don't have to face them. Thanks, see you at the draw ceremony.'

Club Fed opens against blank Czech Ivo Minar who he has beaten twice this year (though both matches were well-contested), and the crystal ball reveals Santoro in the second round, a Rochus brother in the third, then it could actually get watchable with a fourth-round encounter with either the former No. 1 Ferrero or the resurgent German Kiefer. Fed's opponent in the quarterfinals could also be a walk, with Gonzo or the resilient Davydenko likely emerging.

Coming off a six-week vacation after Wimbledon, the Swiss now gets a Week One vacation in New York.

Second Quarter
Seeds: (3) Lleyton Hewitt, (5) Marat Safin, (12) Tim Henman, (15) Dominik "The Dominator" Hrbaty, (17) Dave Ferrer, (22) Mario "Baby Goran" Ancic, (26) Taylor Dent, (30) Max "The Beast" Mirnyi
Floaters: Mark "The Dud" Philippoussis, Fernando "Hot Sauce" Verdasco, Gael "Force" Monfils, Hyung-Taik Lee, Alexander "My Serve Has" Popp, Paul-Henri Mathieu

Were it this time in 2004, this would be the toughest section of the draw. Alas 2005 has not been kind injury-wise to Hewitt, Safin, or Henman.

Hewitt's early road is an opener against fellow slam winner Al Costa, then gets tricky with either in-form underdogs Jose Acasuso or Luis Horna, then things get magician-level tricky, Penn & Teller-tricky, with Dent in the third round, then the backboard-like Dominik "The Dominator" Hrbaty.

Henman is a "punter alert" with his horrendous form and flagging confidence of late, likely to go out by the third round against either Hot Sauce in his opener, or in the next two rounds against the hot-handed Frenchman Mathieu, or in the fourth round against Gael Force or Baby Mario. That is not a good draw for anyone, not to mention the serve-and-volleying Brit whose strengths this season have not been the serve or the volley -- but rather playing too few tournaments and lacking match-play confidence.

Safin, as mentioned earlier, should consider it a victory if he exits New York with two working knees.

If the German giant Popp doesn't serve Safin off the court in his opener, the underrated Jarkko Nieminen in the second round or The Beast in the third will surly finish the job. Safin's exit will open things up for Monfils, Ancic or The Beast to face Hewitt in the quarterfinals.

Other openers of note in the second quarter are (22) Baby Goran vs. Korean net-rusher Hyung-Taik Lee, and (30) The Beast vs. the entertainingly-flailing Gimelstob.

Third Quarter
Seeds: (4) Andy Roddick, (8) Guillermo "El Mago" Coria, (10) Mariano Puerta, (13) Richard Gasquet, (18) Ivan Ljubicic, (23) Jiri Novak, (26) Feliciano "F-Lo" Lopez, (29) Tommy Haas
Floaters: "Rappin'" Vince Spadea, Nicolas Massu, Stanislas Wawrinka, Rainer Schuettler, Gilles Muller

When A-Rod (or "Pay-Rod" after he receives his check for winning the US Open Series) saw his third-quarter draw, he must have thought 'Wait a minute, I thought this thing was run by the USTA -- I need to make some calls...'

If Andy has any mojo coming into the Open it was immediately dampered by his draw, which reads like a Super Villain Hall of Fame.

Roddick opens against Luxembourg's Gilles Muller, who reached the L.A. final before falling to Agassi. A second-round meeting looms with countryman Robby Ginepri who Babolatted him out of Cincinnati over a week ago, and in the third round awaits Tommy Haas, who the American has lost four of his seven meetings with. Fourth round? Croat Ivan Ljubicic who won their last meeting in Davis Cup play, or Richard Gasquet who Roddick has never faced.

Haas says he is fully recovered from his freak accident back at Wimbledon where he stepped on a ball, badly twisting his ankle.

Likely facing Roddick or Gasquet in the quarters will be (8) Coria or, get this, Switzerland's Stanislas Wawrinka who has a perfect-storm-type opportunity to emerge for a mini-section of hardcourt lightweights including Jiri Novak (slumping), Nicolas Massu (recovering from injury), and Mariano Puerta (just happy to be here).

Andy will be getting a lot of TV time, and rightly so since he will be practically hosting an almost nightly talk show (smack talk, that is) with some of the hottest players in the game in the early goings.

Bottom Quarter
Seeds: (2) Rafael Nadal, (7) Andre Agassi, (9) Gaston Gaudio, (14) Thomas Johansson, (19) Tommy Robredo, (24) Mikhail Youzhny, (28) "Grinning" Greg Rusedski, (32) Tomas Berdych
Floaters: "Dr." Ivo Karlovic, Florian "Oscar" Mayer, Xavier "X-Man" Malisse, (WC) Brian Baker, Gustavo Kuerten, (WC) James Blake

The bottom half of the draw, safely away from Federer, is nonetheless filled with landmines of talent, especially in the bottom quarter with the hungry Nadal, the ever-threatening Agassi, and a host of big-serving floaters and comeback kids.

Nadal opens against wildcard Bobby Reynolds, then will likely face (if he doesn't choke it against a qualifier at the thought of facing the Spaniard) the emerging ace-dropping American Scoville Jenkins, who could provide some upset-level entertainment with nothing to lose. While Nadal is nails on clay, many agree that he is vulnerable on hardcourts to giant servers who can consistently deliver the unreturnables (see last year's Open pounding at the hands of Roddick).

While Andre opens in relative ease against Romanian Razvan Sabau, his road immediately gets bumpy with Croat "Dr." Ivo Karlovic delivering aces from on high in the second round, then the upset-minded Tomas Berdych in the third. Czech Berdych off as the answer to 'Who beat Roger Federer in the 2004 Olympics?'

The bottom quarter really heats up in the third round with potential match-ups (7) Agassi vs. (32) Berdych, (9) Gaudio vs. (24) Youzhny (OK, that might not have you setting your Tivo), former Aussie Open winner (14) T.Johansson vs. (19) Robredo or sentimental favorite Kuerten, and the must-see (2) Nadal vs. (WC) Blake.

If the back-addled Agassi gets by Berdych, he will have a grinder next with either Gaudio or Youzhny, who had Roddick on the ropes last week in Cincinnati. Nadal likewise surviving Blake would potentially face the backboard Johansson in the fourth round.

Chances are equally good you'll see Nadal vs. Agassi in the quarterfinals as seeing neither of them with their bumpy roads.

'I've beaten all you biz-otches'

Federer meanwhile has been busy this week in his duties as the ATP's promotional dream machine, answering the numerous print and broadcast requests and even on Wednesday morning ringing the bell to open the New York Stock Exchange.

While the slam fields are not as intense as this summer's Masters Series events (Federer's opening-round opponent Minar didn't make any of the Masters Series cuts), the Swiss says he views every match like it is a threat to his 22-finals streak, and says there will be no surprises.

"This is how it will be in every match at the Open. I'm ready for the pressure," Federer said. "It's a good feeling that I have. The players, I know them all, I've beaten them all."

nobama
08-27-2005, 12:19 AM
So what does everyone think about the yellow headband. I kind of like it with the outfit he's wearing in this photo. Somehow I have a feeling he won't be wearing this when the tournament starts though.
http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_qual0826001.jpg

gertie
08-27-2005, 12:26 AM
I luv yellow, but i agree wit you, i don't he's gonna wear that when the tournament starts.

nobama
08-27-2005, 01:33 AM
This is what Roger said today in an interview. He's so sweet, and I love how honest and open he is. I don't know how people could not like him, even if he's not their favorite player. He's such a nice guy...he comes across as the kind of guy you could bring home to mom. I remember once someone said John Lennon is the guy you want to have sex with and Paul McCartney is the guy you want to marry. I think the same of Roger - he's the guy you'd like to marry whereas someone like Marat you'd just wanna have sex with. :p


http://www.canada.com/sports/story.html?id=4f269e63-04b8-4396-8dab-7bec7183244b
Federer spoke at a dinner in the days leading up to the U.S. Open, which begins Monday, about how his life and tennis had come together in the past two years - how it all became less of a struggle than it had been when he was younger and still throwing rackets and tantrums.

"I know what I'm sacrificing for," he said. "It makes sense to me now. I really have my life in control. Everything is pink, no, I mean, how you say, rosy."

That was a rare language mistake for Federer, who speaks English almost as fluently as he does Swiss-German, German and French.

Federer, already popular throughout Europe, is hoping to follow in the footsteps of the relatively few other European players who became equally popular in the United States - such as Bjorn Borg, Stefan Edberg and Boris Becker.

"I would like to be loved, to have fans around the world," he said. "I had a moment last year when I felt people always wanted me to lose because I was winning too much. Now I think differently about that. Maybe losing in the Australian (to Russian Marat Safin), but fighting and fighting, showed I was human. In Paris when I lost I felt the fans were for me. Those losses were so important to me. They made a difference in how fans see me and how I see the game."

PamV
08-27-2005, 02:16 AM
I think the same of Roger - he's the guy you'd like to marry whereas someone like Marat you'd just wanna have sex with. :p

I don't agree with that at all but to each their own. To me Marat is like a goofy brother you like to joke with. Roger is the total package that you marry and have the pasionate love life with. OH gosh....don't get me started.

Any way ....that's a nice article. I like how Roger sees the good in everything. Even a loss has positives. It's nice to know that he appreciates having fans love him.

nobama
08-27-2005, 02:32 AM
I don't agree with that at all but to each their own. To me Marat is like a goofy brother you like to joke with. Roger is the total package that you marry and have the pasionate love life with. OH gosh....don't get me started.

Any way ....that's a nice article. I like how Roger sees the good in everything. Even a loss has positives. It's nice to know that he appreciates having fans love him.Ok maybe Marat was a bad example. My point was Roger's the guy you'd want to spend the rest of your life with not just have some hot fling with. It just amazes me how grown-up, intelligent and thoughtful he is for only being 24 years old. And people that think we don't know much about him....I think people could know a lot if they sought it out. Roger's very open in interviews, doesn't really shy away from anything. These are the types of interviews I like - we get to see the sensitive Roger, get to see him being more introspective.

Fergie
08-27-2005, 03:32 AM
So what does everyone think about the yellow headband. I kind of like it with the outfit he's wearing in this photo. Somehow I have a feeling he won't be wearing this when the tournament starts though.
http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_qual0826001.jpg
The yellow bandana is ugly! :p ... I prefer a white or black bandana for Rogi ;)

nobama
08-27-2005, 03:52 AM
This is what Tracy Austin recently had to say about our Rog.... :yeah:
"Federer is the most enjoyable tennis player I've ever seen. He hits shots that even John McEnroe couldn't touch," said analyst Tracy Austin. "He just has every facet of the game, and he is an absolute joy to watch.

PamV
08-27-2005, 04:11 AM
It just amazes me how grown-up, intelligent and thoughtful he is for only being 24 years old.

That's one of the reason's I find him so attractive. Just like the statement he made about one day stopping and thinking that he didn't want to be discussed for how many rackets he broke in every match, that that was not what tennis should be about. He's the kind of role model I wish we had more of in the US.

PamV
08-27-2005, 04:12 AM
The yellow bandana is ugly! :p ... I prefer a white or black bandana for Rogi ;)

It's cute for practice but I hope he doesn't wear that for the tourney. The yellow bandana is better than Hewitt's checkerboard bandana.

nobama
08-27-2005, 04:15 AM
Someone posted this on Roger's website. A bit more info about his busy week. I'll try and scan photos of the USA Today spread - if they're worthwhile. What made me laugh is at the beginning of the Cincy tournament when Roger was looking really rusty PMac said on ESPN that maybe Roger should think about playing the Pilot Pen tournament (I don't think he was really serious). I thought at the time, yeah like Roger's not gonna have anything to do the week before the US Open. :rolleyes: :lol:

Federer Opens NASDAQ and NY Media Campaign

As always, the week before the US Open is a busy one for the ATP's stars, juggling a number of media and sponsor activities throughout Manhattan, the world's most media-centric city.

INDESIT ATP Race leader and defending US Open champion Roger Federer was the busiest of the ATP's top players, managing to cram the most into one day. He began Thursday by ringing the bell to open trading on the NASDAQ exchange.

While there, he was interviewed by CNBC's Squawk Box,Bloomberg, Business Week and NBC 4.

He then went high above Times Square to 1515 Broadway for an interview with CBS' Mary Carillo that will air during that network's US Open coverage.

USA Network also covers the US Open domestically, and Federer spent time with John McEnroe and Pure Food & Wine for that network's coverage.

Next up was a stop at the ESPNZone for interviews for ESPNews Hotlist?and the SportsCenter segment, the Budweiser Hot Seat. He then lunched with New York Times Sports Editor Tom Jolly and columnist Selena Roberts.

Federer's day ended in the evening when he hosted a party with Vogue Editor Anna Wintour at Pastis to launch Men's Vogue . Other tennis players were also invited to attend the launch. Federer was shadowed in his hectic day by photographers from USA Today and the newspaper will feature a photo spread of his day on Monday.

The World No. 1 is coming off an equally busy week in Cincinatti where he won his fourth ATP Master Series shield this season, a new ATP record. Federer's schedule is unlikely to let up next week when he will finally get to begin defense of his US Open crown against Ivo Minar in the first round.

nobama
08-27-2005, 04:25 AM
Federer's day ended in the evening when he hosted a party with Vogue Editor Anna Wintour at Pastis to launch Men's Vogue . Other tennis players were also invited to attend the launch. When I was reading this I thought the name of the restaurant sounded familiar. Rachel Ray from the Food Network cable channel just featured this restaurant on her new show tonight. I wonder what other tennis players showed up (if any)? I'm surprised there aren't pictures from the event. I know Andy and Andre participated in a couple of events and I saw photos of that online.

ExpectedWinner
08-27-2005, 04:39 AM
I think the same of Roger - he's the guy you'd like to marry whereas someone like Marat you'd just wanna have sex with. :p

:haha: :haha: :haha:

What it has to do with the upcoming USO? :silly:

TenHound
08-27-2005, 04:41 AM
I'm fascinated & amazed that the kickoff edition of Am. male vogue, that's so crucial to whether it sinks or swims, would feature him...supposedly he's personally the reincarnation of Sampras! Sure.......Pete in Vogue?????? Get real!! Anyone else have anything to add on RF kicking off Male Vogue in Am??

I love the Blue, Yellow & White. Not a bad blue either. (The sooner the red & black go in the trashcan, the happier I am.) And I do very much like him in blue & white.

nobama
08-27-2005, 05:01 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

What it has to do with the upcoming USO? :silly:

Nothing. It was just an observation, that's all. :p

nobama
08-27-2005, 05:04 AM
I'm fascinated & amazed that the kickoff edition of Am. male vogue, that's so crucial to whether it sinks or swims, would feature him...supposedly he's personally the reincarnation of Sampras! Sure.......Pete in Vogue?????? Get real!! Anyone else have anything to add on RF kicking off Male Vogue in Am??

I love the Blue, Yellow & White. Not a bad blue either. (The sooner the red & black go in the trashcan, the happier I am.) And I do very much like him in blue & white.Well George Clooney is on the cover but Roger is the guest of honor at the launch party....that's cool. No wonder Mirka's on her mobile all the time. Roger's got one heck of a schedule this week. And Rafa's just flying under the radar screen....although the British newspaper the Guardian picked him to win the tournament. :lol:

TenHound
08-27-2005, 05:07 AM
Yikes, the Guardian did!! I trust that Roger has figured out how to be continually feted w/out losing his center.

nobama
08-27-2005, 05:12 AM
It's weird they talked about Rafa beating Roger at RG....ok, what does that have to do with the US Open. Playing on clay is nothing like playing on a fast hardcourt. Plus who's to say that Roddick or Agassi or someone else might not take him out early? I mean last year Andre almost beat Roger and he'll for sure have the crowd behind him. So will Andy.

1sun
08-27-2005, 12:02 PM
I think the same of Roger - he's the guy you'd like to marry whereas someone like Marat you'd just wanna have sex with. :p
first time ive herd mirkaland talk kinky :p

PamV
08-27-2005, 01:05 PM
I'm fascinated & amazed that the kickoff edition of Am. male vogue, that's so crucial to whether it sinks or swims, would feature him...supposedly he's personally the reincarnation of Sampras! Sure.......Pete in Vogue?????? Get real!! Anyone else have anything to add on RF kicking off Male Vogue in Am??
The way he is on the court is somewhat remeniscent of Sampras.....but Roger has Sex Appeal. It's hard to explain that to men but there's a big difference between Sampras and Federer. Federer has smoldering eyes and a cute accent plus he has a European taste for how he wears his clothes. Couple that with the fact that his hands look like those of a concert pianist and you get an irresistable combination. :hearts:

As for Male Vogue...... Just who is the audience supposed to be for that Magazine? Is that supposed to be a Magazine for Women to see hot men? No straight man would want to look at Male Vogue. I am not sure what the deal is....but I don't care. More Roger is always better.

PamV
08-27-2005, 01:09 PM
It's weird they talked about Rafa beating Roger at RG....ok, what does that have to do with the US Open. Playing on clay is nothing like playing on a fast hardcourt. Plus who's to say that Roddick or Agassi or someone else might not take him out early? I mean last year Andre almost beat Roger and he'll for sure have the crowd behind him. So will Andy.

That means that they judge Nadal to be able to beat Agassi and Roddick. Well, that's interesting. I can understand them believing Agassi would likely lose because Nadal did beat him in Montreal. Furthermore Agassi has the tougher end of that quarter with Karlovic and Berdych. What about Roddick though? Do they think he's playing lousy?

I wish Nadal were facing Ginepri 2nd round. That would be a nice wake up to reality call.

PamV
08-27-2005, 01:16 PM
I understand about the TV and all, but some would argue the should've moved the Andy/Tojo match to Court 1 to get it in on that Friday. But I don't think they would've played both semis at the same time it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway.

As far as the draw....if it really was rigged don't you think they'd want to create the possibility for an all American final? And put Agassi in Roger's half as he came close to beating Roger last year? So then there would be the possibility of a Agassi/Roddick final? All the good American players are on the same side of the draw. I know Henman's been out of form this year, but he did make the semis last year so I wouldn't agree that Henman is an easy opponent. And James Blake drew Rusedski R1. That certainly won't be an easy match. I think this draw rigging nonsense is as silly as those who claim the top players are doping too but the ATP just choses to cover it up and instead picks on Spaniards and Argentines to show they're tough on drugs.

Well I think the reason for having all the Americans on one side is to try to increase the chances that an American actually makes it to the final. They might hope that Agassi will take Nadal to 5 sets and tire him out and then let Roddick finish him off in a SF. That's one possibility. I wonder why they wouldn't give Nadal tougher opponents in that quarter than they do for Agassi though? I would have expected them to give Nadal Ginepri 2nd round and then Berdych 3rd round. That would have been very nice. I can only think that they believe there's a higher marketting value in getting Nadal through to face Agassi in a QF.

They no longer think there's much chance that Agassi would take out Federer, so there's no point in putting him in Roger's quarter. Last year Agassi played quite well in that wind match, but he's slowed down since then. Federer v. Agassi in AO was one sided. Agassi has lost some of his spark.

Dirk
08-27-2005, 02:10 PM
Pam calm down. Let's just enjoy the final slam and not get paranoid over such dumb things.

nobama
08-27-2005, 02:43 PM
I agree. I think all this talk of the draw being rigged is nonsense. Same with this 'Roger gets screwed while Nadal et. al. gets all the breaks'. It just makes Fed fans look paranoid when we go on about Roger v Rafa all the time. As if we're so worried that Rafa might be getting more attention/love than Roger.

Far as I can tell Roger is getting plenty of attention and when he's out there playing he will be a huge attraction, and I think a fan favorite. I mean should Rafa fans be pissed because Mens Vogue didn't throw a launch party with him as the guest of honor? Or should Andy Roddick fans be pissed because he wasn't hanging out with Ivan Lendl and John McEnroe, having lunch with the NY Times sports editor and having USA Today follow him around with a camera for a photo spread? Sheesh. :rolleyes:

PamV
08-27-2005, 03:50 PM
I agree. I think all this talk of the draw being rigged is nonsense. Same with this 'Roger gets screwed while Nadal et. al. gets all the breaks'. It just makes Fed fans look paranoid when we go on about Roger v Rafa all the time. As if we're so worried that Rafa might be getting more attention/love than Roger.



Getting attention and getting an equal shake in the draw are not the same things. I don't think my complaining means that I am worried Roger can't beat anyone. My complaining just about overall fairness issue. I don't expect that things can be completely equal but if one player gets a much much easier draw then it makes him looke like a big man on hardcourt. It also saves him from getting tired out during the tournament. I think we've said before that Nadal is being judged as a top hardcourt contender already when he's only won one HC title and the top 5 guys were not even competing at the time. That will keep on happening if he gets walk throughs in draws. Luckily this time at least he will have to face Agassi in the QF and Roddick in the SF.

PamV
08-27-2005, 03:51 PM
Pam calm down. Let's just enjoy the final slam and not get paranoid over such dumb things.

It's going to be hard to calm down. Usually that only happens after Roger has won the tournament.

Nocko
08-27-2005, 03:58 PM
Hey, just enjoy this slam and cheer Rogi !! ;)

:woohoo:

uuuuuuuhhhhhh, Can't wait ! :dance:


:banana: Good Luck Roger! Enjoy this big slam and grab the title again! :banana:

1sun
08-27-2005, 06:20 PM
It's going to be hard to calm down. Usually that only happens after Roger has won the tournament.
or serious depression

soonha
08-27-2005, 07:00 PM
These days I don't enjoy coming to this forum that much because somehow I got the feeling that there is some negative and non-constructive atmosphere among members here. It seems that I don't get the warm and nice feeling I felt before any more.

For instance, when Roger was experiencing some difficulties to adapt from a six-week off in Cinci, some members were panicking and even swearing at him instead of encourging him and trusting his ability. I hated it. Even if it came from concerning, I think it's just so wrong. He's human and can't win every match. Top of all, he can't win pretty at every time when he wins. How come even "so-called" fans don't give him a break?

Now what are these all the talks about Roger and Nadal? If you're an undeniable and unflappable No.1, why bother? Let the lesser ones tumble, bumble and mumble. Let the media or GM haters keep talking rubbish. Reacting to rubbish makes us look insecure and desperate to something. And which is exactly what they want.

Just think one thing. Let's get real and think reasonable: Does Nadal really have a decent chance to win against Roger on the fast hard court at USO? I don't think so. Of course, anything can happen at anytime, anywhere. But can't it happen to anybody?

Nervous and anxious, anyone? Me, too. Then why don't we convert them all to huge positive psychic energy and send it to Roger? But please, never doubt him nor jinx him.

GO, ROGER! :rocker2:
WIN USO & MAKE US PROUD-AGAIN!

RogiNie
08-27-2005, 07:21 PM
yeah soonha! :yeah:

1sun
08-27-2005, 07:55 PM
These days I don't enjoy coming to this forum that much because somehow I got the feeling that there are some negative and unconstructive atmosphere among members here. It seems that I don't get a warm and nice feeling I felt before any more.

For instance, when Roger was experiencing some difficulties to adapt from a six-week off in Cinci, some members were panicking and even swearing him instead of encourging him and trusting his ability. I hated it. Even if it came from concerning, I think it's just wrong. He's human and can't win every match. Top of all, he can't win pretty at every time. How come even "so-called" fans don't give him a break?

Now what are these all the talks about Roger and Nadal? If you're a undeniable and unflappable No.1, why bother? Let the lesser ones tumble, bumble and mumble. Let media or GM haters keep talking rubbish. Reacting to those rubbish makes us insecure and desperate to something. And which is exactly what they want.

Just think one thing. Let's get real and think reasonable: Does Nadal really have a decent chance to win against Roger on the fast hard court at USO? I don't think so. Of course, anything can happen at anytime, anywhere. But can't it happen to anybody?

Nervous and anxious, anyone? Me, too. Then why don't we convert them all to huge positive psychic energy and send it to Roger? But please, never doubt him nor jinx him.

GO, ROGER! :rocker2:
WIN USO & MAKE US PROUD-AGAIN!
we were only getting mad at him because we want him to win as much as he does and we care about him.it was all in the heat of the moment of the matchs. if he had lost, we would have been cool afterwars and supporting. we are tennis fans, of course we are going to get frustrated from time to time, if we didnt then we wouldnt be true supporters. we get annoyed because we are true fans and will always be no matter what happens in the future.

RogiFan88
08-27-2005, 08:30 PM
Men's Vogue is FOR men, just like the regular Vogue is for women now that men are into fashion, etc.

Rogi often wears different-coloured bandanas for practice, lt blue, red, etc.

Does anyone here get those programs that he's on this week??

RogiFan88
08-27-2005, 08:32 PM
How do you know that Spanish Vogue, etc. aren't following Rafa around NYC? I bet he's being touted all over the Big Apple. ;)

nobama
08-27-2005, 10:46 PM
ESPN's front page this afternoon:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jsnash/rf_andy1.jpg

Skyward
08-27-2005, 10:55 PM
The author of this article predicts Federer-Nadal final

http://www.tennisserver.com/lines/lines.html

Minnie
08-27-2005, 11:19 PM
[QUOTE=soonha]These days I don't enjoy coming to this forum that much because somehow I got the feeling that there are some negative and unconstructive atmosphere among members here. It seems that I don't get a warm and nice feeling I felt before any more.


:yeah: Soonha - I'm glad you said this because its something I've felt for some while now and the reason why I don't post much now. I was told I wasn't a true Rogi fan because I said I would be supporting the Brit Davis Cup team (perfectly reasonable to me seeing how I'm British) without being given the understanding that I wouldn't be upset when Roger won! And I didn't like what I saw as slagging Roger off for playing badly (for him) when he came back after a long lay-off. I didn't expect him to be anything else other than rusty and that it would be his absolute refusal to be beaten that would see him through. As a fan I know he will do everything possible to defend his USO title - and that is enough for me.

soonha
08-28-2005, 01:20 AM
we were only getting mad at him because we want him to win as much as he does and we care about him.it was all in the heat of the moment of the matchs. if he had lost, we would have been cool afterwars and supporting. we are tennis fans, of course we are going to get frustrated from time to time, if we didnt then we wouldnt be true supporters. we get annoyed because we are true fans and will always be no matter what happens in the future.
1sun, I don't understand your point at all--you're mad at him because you care about him and if he had lost you'd have been cool?

If you're a true supporter, then support him at anytime, anywhere, anyhow.

Why were you mad at him? Didn't you expect he would be rusty after a six-week off?(I wouldn't have been surprised even if he lost anywhere in the middle of the tournament) Even in the heat of the match as you said, why weren't you just patient and waiting for him to regain the rhythm and get through instead of being mad at him? Somehow he won the tournament. Wasn't it amazing? That's all cout. That's what I appreciate-how incredible he is!

However, once again, remember he's human and can't win each and every match. What do you want from him more than 64-3 win-loss, 22 straight final win, 3 Wimbldon?

I think we are blessed and fortunate to be fans of an extraordinary genius and champion. We have been witnessing something special that can happen once in a lifetime. Don't waste your time and energy for being mad at him or get annoyed or being frustrated. I even don't have enough time to follow his elegant movement.

PS. I apologize if you feel offended. I've been so sick and tired of sarcatism, irrationality, jealousy, hatred without reason, etc in MTF nowadays. I just got a sad feeling that even this forum is getting infected from the atmosphere of GM. Maybe I as well get a little sensitive. That's all.

nobama
08-28-2005, 02:43 AM
I think everyone here knew that Roger would be rusty after a six week time out. But remember the last time we had seen him was the Wimbledon final. And I know I had that match etched in my mind. So when I saw him playing just average I did get frustrated. Of course he's not going to play like he did in Wimbledon all the time. Of course it's going to take him time to get back in the groove after not playing for a while. But I watched every match in Cincy except for the semis and I could tell that Roger was frustrated with himself that he couldn't find his rhythm that his return game and groundstrokes weren't 100%.

As far as the US Open goes, I know there's so much pressure on him - they've basically already put his name on the trophy. As long as he plays well I don't care if he wins or not. Of course I want him to win and it would be fantastic, but he's already had such a great season that I won't be dissappointed if he can't get it done in NYC.

soonha
08-28-2005, 03:12 AM
I think everyone here knew that Roger would be rusty after a six week time out. But remember the last time we had seen him was the Wimbledon final. And I know I had that match etched in my mind. So when I saw him playing just average I did get frustrated. Of course he's not going to play like he did in Wimbledon all the time. Of course it's going to take him time to get back in the groove after not playing for a while. But I watched every match in Cincy except for the semis and I could tell that Roger was frustrated with himself that he couldn't find his rhythm that his return game and groundstrokes weren't 100%.

As far as the US Open goes, I know there's so much pressure on him - they've basically already put his name on the trophy. As long as he plays well I don't care if he wins or not. Of course I want him to win and it would be fantastic, but he's already had such a great season that I won't be dissappointed if he can't get it done in NYC.
I'm not with you. As long as he wins, I don't care how he wins, play well or not. Besides his tennis is beautiful enough for me to watch even when he plays NOT well.

The Wimbledon final was a once(or twice)-a-year performance even for a Roger's standard. It was unreal, out of this world just like dreaming. I don't expect that level of the play at USO, I hope though.

oneandonlyhsn
08-28-2005, 04:42 AM
These days I don't enjoy coming to this forum that much because somehow I got the feeling that there is some negative and non-constructive atmosphere among members here. It seems that I don't get a warm and nice feeling I felt before any more.

For instance, when Roger was experiencing some difficulties to adapt from a six-week off in Cinci, some members were panicking and even swearing him instead of encourging him and trusting his ability. I hated it. Even if it came from concerning, I think it's just wrong. He's human and can't win every match. Top of all, he can't win pretty at every time. How come even "so-called" fans don't give him a break?

Now what are these all the talks about Roger and Nadal? If you're an undeniable and unflappable No.1, why bother? Let the lesser ones tumble, bumble and mumble. Let media or GM haters keep talking rubbish. Reacting to those rubbish makes us look insecure and desperate to something. And which is exactly what they want.

Just think one thing. Let's get real and think reasonable: Does Nadal really have a decent chance to win against Roger on the fast hard court at USO? I don't think so. Of course, anything can happen at anytime, anywhere. But can't it happen to anybody?

Nervous and anxious, anyone? Me, too. Then why don't we convert them all to huge positive psychic energy and send it to Roger? But please, never doubt him nor jinx him.

GO, ROGER! :rocker2:
WIN USO & MAKE US PROUD-AGAIN!

:worship: I'm guilty of getting too nervous during his matches but I can never get mad at Rogi or swear at him. He has my heart, Mirka plz let me have him http://www.sosnovska-symposium.com/smilies/praying.gif

TenHound
08-28-2005, 07:00 AM
Well Soonha, if you don't get the feeling you want here, you're right not to come around. Surely you'll find someplace that contains things to your narrow requirements. Best of luck in the future.

oneandonlyhsn
08-28-2005, 07:05 AM
Well Soonha, if you don't get the feeling you want here, you're right not to come around. Surely you'll find someplace that contains things to your narrow requirements. Best of luck in the future.

:eek: Wow I actually agree with Soonha that the forum has become somewhat negative, we worry too much about other players when we should be cheering more for Rogi :hearts:

I think most of Rogis fans are concerned about a certain player taking over his #1 ranking which is a warranted concern. Part of the prob is that there are too many people who cant wait for Roger to be overtaken and that creates concern for most of his fans. Somehow I feel that we are worrying a tad bit too much though. I'm sure Roger will do his best that is all we can hope from Rogi.

Hopp Swiss cheese, hopp :bounce:

TenHound
08-28-2005, 07:49 AM
Ok, then do a sis boom bah rah rah rah thread - only positive thoughts allowed as price of admittance. Then others are free to discuss their concerns, or show their pictures, or discuss stats on other threads. But don't say that the whole section is just for "positive stuff". If you don't like what poster X has to say, you don't have to read them, or look at their avatar, as the case may be. But you don't dump everyone in a girdle to avoid painful thoughts or feelings. Personally, I just avoid that "nadal" threads/posts, as I prefer tennis. He's the perfect poster boy for the game, when the Am. Constitution has been completely shredded, just as he would have been Franco's tennis player - for the same reason - Just brute force baby. As we have a few shreds left, Roger is the most perfect expression of the sunset of both. But others who want to obsess over it, and I agree it's worth discussing & agonizing over, as just a few mos. after Roger was being discussed as perhaps the greatest ever, this nose-picking punk shows up. That plus Roger's feet. Some people want to dwell on the beauty; others are more anxious & see this year as devastating or at least bittersweet. The notion that only certain types of feelings can be expressed I find utterly loathsome, repellent, vapid & idiotic. But if everyone wants to go the route of Pretty Only Here, I'll happily disappear for more complex pastures.

TenHound
08-28-2005, 07:54 AM
P.S. Personally, I can't imagine as bittersweet a year as we've had, so it would sadden me if people only want to discuss the Great - that's so ripping everything out of context, as I've experienced it.

And now, if you've checked things out, it looks like the Goddamn USO is going down the storm drain. Rain expected throughout the first week.

oneandonlyhsn
08-28-2005, 07:59 AM
Ok, then do a sis boom bah rah rah rah thread - only positive thoughts allowed as price of admittance. Then others are free to discuss their concerns, or show their pictures, or discuss stats on other threads. But don't say that the whole section is just for "positive stuff". If you don't like what poster X has to say, you don't have to read them, or look at their avatar, as the case may be. But you don't dump everyone in a girdle to avoid painful thoughts or feelings. Personally, I just avoid that "nadal" threads/posts, as I prefer tennis. He's the perfect poster boy for the game, when the Am. Constitution has been completely shredded, just as he would have been Franco's tennis player - for the same reason - Just brute force baby. As we have a few shreds left, Roger is the most perfect expression of the sunset of both. But others who want to obsess over it, and I agree it's worth discussing & agonizing over, as just a few mos. after Roger was being discussed as perhaps the greatest ever, this nose-picking punk shows up. That plus Roger's feet. Some people want to dwell on the beauty; others are more anxious & see this year as devastating or at least bittersweet. The notion that only certain types of feelings can be expressed I find utterly loathsome, repellent, vapid & idiotic. But if everyone wants to go the route of Pretty Only Here, I'll happily disappear for more complex pastures.

Oh I didnt mean it like that, all I'm saying is that I understand where Soonha is coming from, I just dont want anyone to leave :sad: .
Having said that I think part of being a true fan is celebrating your favs victories, grieving over their defeats and admitting their faults. I admittedly go berzek when he plays, so I am not one to just share positive energy. I get concerned and I worry when he isnt playing well, but I always support him :D

P.S. Personally, I can't imagine as bittersweet a year as we've had, so it would sadden me if people only want to discuss the Great - that's so ripping everything out of context, as I've experienced it.

And now, if you've checked things out, it looks like the Goddamn USO is going down the storm drain. Rain expected throughout the first week.

True :yeah: and goddamn rain go away :( or atleast let Rogi play his matches on time

nobama
08-28-2005, 08:17 AM
This is in today's New York Post:

MEN

ROGER FEDERER: Ton of pressure on Swiss maestro to repeat. Unless he gets caught up in one of those windswept September days in Flushing, he will. Tracy Austin sounded like teenaged groupie in recent conference call, saying "He's the most enjoyable player I've ever watched." Odds: 1-1

RAFAEL NADAL: Interesting to see Open crowd's reception to tennis' 19-year-old Spanish sensation who's all the rage everywhere but America. The tenacious French Open-champion southpaw could change that in two weeks, proving he's more than just a Latin dirtballer. Odds: 4-1

ANDY RODDICK: At last Open, A-Rod wore hideous shirt which he claimed depicted a subway map. But his tourney was a train wreck. The sport would be so much better if he was better. Federer owns him. Odds: 6-1

LLEYTON HEWITT: Let's hope not. One of least-liked men on tour, Aussie's baseline hustle game is a bore. Last September, Hewitt played Federer's sacrificial lamb in Finals. Odds: 9-1

ANDRE AGASSI: Disregard hot summer hardcourt performance. After first-round flop in French and Wimbledon withdrawal, has better chance of reuniting with Brooke Shields. But it's something to root for and Flushing will. Passionately. Odds: 23-1

MARAT SAFIN: Australian Open champion has more talent than Roddick but throws more tantrums than a hungry preschooler. Odds: 25-1

yanchr
08-28-2005, 08:20 AM
1sun, I don't understand your point at all--you're mad at him because you care about him and if he had lost you'd have been cool?

If you're a true supporter, then support him at anytime, anywhere, anyhow.

Why were you mad at him? Didn't you expect he would be rusty after a six-week off?(I wouldn't have been surprised even if he lost anywhere in the middle of the tournament) Even in the heat of the match as you said, why weren't you just patient and waiting for him to regain the rhythm and get through instead of being mad at him? Somehow he won the tournament. Wasn't it amazing? That's all cout. That's what I appreciate-how incredible he is!

However, once again, remember he's human and can't win each and every match. What do you want from him more than 64-3 win-loss, 22 straight final win, 3 Wimbldon?

I think we are blessed and fortunate to be fans of an extraordinary genius and champion. We have been witnessing something special that can happen once in a lifetime. Don't waste your time and energy for being mad at him or get annoyed or being frustrated. I even don't have enough time to follow his elegant movement.

PS. I apologize if you feel offended. I've been so sick and tired of sarcatism, irrationality, jealousy, hatred without reason, etc in MTF nowadays. I just got a sad feeling that even this forum is getting infected from the atmosphere of GM. Maybe I as well get a little sensitive. That's all.
I think first of all, never throw doubt on the true support for Roger of anybody here (well, maybe very few exceptions). Each fan has his/her own way of supporting players. For example, I would swear at him too during matches if he was playing shit, cuz we all know how good he can be and it's kind of natural that I want to enjoy the best of him like all the time (I know that it's impossible though). But that doesn't undermines the fact that I can't understand/tolerate/accept that. That even more doesn't undermines the fact that I still give full support and cheers to him and have absolute faith in him.

As for the negative atmosphere here, yeah, I agree, we've taken too much time discussing and worrying about too many other things. So luckily USO is coming just around. Our focus will be back on Roger and his tennis again :yeah:

Pls come here and cheer for Roger again :wavey:

soonha
08-28-2005, 10:23 AM
Well Soonha, if you don't get the feeling you want here, you're right not to come around. Surely you'll find someplace that contains things to your narrow requirements. Best of luck in the future.

Ok, then do a sis boom bah rah rah rah thread - only positive thoughts allowed as price of admittance. Then others are free to discuss their concerns, or show their pictures, or discuss stats on other threads. But don't say that the whole section is just for "positive stuff". If you don't like what poster X has to say, you don't have to read them, or look at their avatar, as the case may be. But you don't dump everyone in a girdle to avoid painful thoughts or feelings. Personally, I just avoid that "nadal" threads/posts, as I prefer tennis. He's the perfect poster boy for the game, when the Am. Constitution has been completely shredded, just as he would have been Franco's tennis player - for the same reason - Just brute force baby. As we have a few shreds left, Roger is the most perfect expression of the sunset of both. But others who want to obsess over it, and I agree it's worth discussing & agonizing over, as just a few mos. after Roger was being discussed as perhaps the greatest ever, this nose-picking punk shows up. That plus Roger's feet. Some people want to dwell on the beauty; others are more anxious & see this year as devastating or at least bittersweet. The notion that only certain types of feelings can be expressed I find utterly loathsome, repellent, vapid & idiotic. But if everyone wants to go the route of Pretty Only Here, I'll happily disappear for more complex pastures.
First, if you want to discuss about something here, do it freely with whoever like to do, but don't tell me not to come around or something like that. It's absolutely up to me and my mind. Mind your business.

Second, I just wrote my thoughts and feelings like you and anyone else here do. I have to say that you seemed to take my post quite seriously and personally according to your aggressive expressions. Again, why bother so much? If you really want more complex pastures like you said, why don't you tolerate my post? Also, I wonder why you see things as a black or a white. Me saying "send positive energy to Roger" or "what are these all the talks about Rogi and Nadal" means "don't say that the whole section is just for positive stuff" and "you don't dump everyone in a girdle to avoid painful thoughts or feelings" to you? Don't you think this forum is wide and generous enough to accommodate more than one opinion? So, like you said, if you want to obsess over some player and think it's worth discussing & agonizing over, do it. However, don't ignore the fact that there are actually many others here who find it not worth doing and want to save their time and energy for cheering Roger rather than for panicking or obsessing over other players. In fact, I've got replies from many members who agree with my previous post.

Last thing. I don't have any reason to hear the words such as loathsome, repellent, vapid, or idiotic from you(even though you're not directly pointing at me, I know you included me). Like I wrote above, post on anywhere you want and discuss about whatever you want, but don't offend me and my post like that unless I do the same thing against you. You may say I'm overreacting now but all the expressions you used in your post were enough to intimidate me. You may be so young and honest(or naive?) as to show all your thoughts in a flashy mode. But I'm too old to swallow that kind of expressions. Remember that if you treat someone like that, you'll be treated back in the same way from the others.

SUKTUEN
08-28-2005, 10:50 AM
I love Roge and Andy most~!! :drool: :kiss:

I hope they will meet in the Final!~! :bounce: :bounce:

ExpectedWinner
08-28-2005, 02:49 PM
Just think one thing. Let's get real and think reasonable: Does Nadal really have a decent chance to win against Roger on the fast hard court at USO? I don't think so.
GO, ROGER! :rocker2:
WIN USO & MAKE US PROUD-AGAIN!

Why not? He won on fast court in Montreal and lost his serve only twice in the process. If anything, his form was more convincing then Federer's form in Cincy. Of course, the story can be different in NY.
Please don't start whining about Nadal escaping the " big boys" ( I don't mean soonha). Who are they right now? Safin is injured, Hewitt is far away from the best form, Roddick has his own troubles with top players. Isn't it astonishing that he has only one win over the top 10 players in GS ( Ferrero in 2003)?! And sadly, Roger's game doesn't match up well with Nadal's. At least it looks like that at he moment.
The bottom line is peope have to get used to the idea that Nadal has a decent chance beating Federer on hc, slow or fast.

1sun
08-28-2005, 04:25 PM
first of all sooona, i do think your a little too sensetive.
i am not going to hide my frustrating in rogers matchs, if hes playing like shit then im gonna say it. you cant exepect everyone to be rosey when he plays like shit, we are gonna get frustrated, its natural. roger is not perfect, so when he plays badly we are gonna point it out, and when he does i do get annoyed because i want him to win. you cant expect every post to be positive because then it wont be much of a board. this is a tennis form where thoughts are expressed, people are going to agree and dis agree and thats why we have discussions.
we not exaclty hating on him are we now? this is not gm and to compare it to it is just silly because everyone in here has resepct for each other and we get on. we have great chats and have a laugh, everytime i come in here i can sense the respect and the, how do you put it? happiness? sounds gay but i dont know how else to describe it.
i personaly really enjoy rogers form, everyone in here has at least one thing in comon, we love roger and that is a huge factor which stops hating before it even starts. to be honest i think your making a big deal out of nothing. but i repsect your opinion and how you feel and i am honestly glad you expressed it so we can try and make you feel more welcomed. and i think i speak for most people here, when i say we will try to do just that because the last thing we want is to lose a roger fan and a great one at that. please dont leave leave and i hope to see you around more often.

nobama
08-28-2005, 06:30 PM
:yawn: more Roger v Rafa debates. Can we at least wait until (or IF) they meet each other in the US Open finals to debate this? I think we have to wait until after the Open to know how much of a threat Rafa will be on hc. We know how much of a threat Roger is based on the number of hc titles he has. Rafa has one.

nobama
08-28-2005, 06:40 PM
More info that Roger's feet are just fine... :)

Roger Federer starts US Open in good shape (http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=106&sid=6041618&cKey=1125247676000)

As Swiss tennis star Roger Federer prepares to defend his title at the US Open on Monday, his personal trainer tells swissinfo how the player has been shaping up.

Pierre Paganini followed Federer's progress during his recent six-week break. Last week Federer returned to the court to win in Cincinnati and starts the US Open as favourite.

In July, shortly after winning his third consecutive Wimbledon title, Federer announced he would be taking time out due to a foot injury.

But six weeks later the world number one was back in top form, with a straight-sets win over Andy Roddick at the Cincinnati Masters - his 22nd tournament victory in a row.

This stands him in good stead for the US Open in New York, which is the final tournament of the tennis season. He has been drawn to meet Czech Ivo Minar in his first-round match.

Paganini says that Federer's break has allowed the player to face the rest of the season calmly and that he is well-prepared for the challenges which lie ahead.

swissinfo: What is Roger Federer's frame of mind ahead of the US Open?

Pierre Paganini: It's difficult for me to reply to that question because only Roger really knows the answer to that. But what I can say is that he not only has the necessary modesty to take his first matches seriously but also an enormous self-confidence to achieve the big things.

swissinfo: Does this mean that he has not yet recovered from his foot injury?

P.P.: His foot is fine. It was an inflammation but it was under control. Roger hadn't yet reached the critical stage with the injury but it was necessary to stop for prevention reasons. It's much better to take a break a bit earlier than when it is too late.

swissinfo: What did Federer do in the six-week break?

P.P.: "Rog" mostly took a holiday. Afterwards we planned together different fitness programmes according to how his injury progresses.

The final part of the work was mostly about his tennis training and trainer Tony Roche joined Roger for that. This mid-season break really allowed us to work on Roger's all-round fitness and on getting everything up to scratch.

Recuperation is really an active part of training, which Roger has understood. He knows his capabilities really well and he knows what's good or bad for him.

swissinfo: Is Federer now stronger physically than he has been in the past?

P.P.: There has definitely been a progression, especially between the ages of 20 and 24 when he progressed enormously. But that didn't happen on its own and you really have to salute Roger's self-sacrifice when it comes to fitness training and the efforts he makes to achieve a good all-round level of fitness.

It's impossible for a player to always be in peak condition. During the most difficult times a player's strength also resides in the quality of their tennis and in their mental toughness.

swissinfo-interview: Raphaël Donzel and Mathias Froidevaux

Stevens Point
08-28-2005, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the article Mirkaland, it is good to hear some positive words from Herr Paganini. :) I hope he does well in the Open!!

RogiFan88
08-28-2005, 07:23 PM
still waiting for that silly OOP... so is ROGI playing tomorrow or what???

I have to say the USO is my least fave slam since we are inundated w Amer POV but what can one do -- try to block out the bias and one ends up watching 2 seconds out of 2 weeks of tennis!!! ;)

Anyway, enough bickering, guys -- everyone's views and comments and concerns are valid exc those that are clearly biased and don't hold much value [since they are based more on emotion than logic or reality].

Oh and nobody has the right to kick anyone out of this forum unless you are an administrator.

This is a huge slam for ROGI and I'm sure he'd appreciate our support. ;)

Skyward
08-28-2005, 08:01 PM
I have to say the USO is my least fave slam since we are inundated w Amer POV but what can one do -- try to block out the bias and one ends up watching 2 seconds out of 2 weeks of tennis!!! ;)



It's the same for all GS here. The only difference is that we're getting 11 hrs of daily bias instead of 2hrs. ;)

PamV
08-28-2005, 08:05 PM
I think there is room here for all types of thoughts.....but perhaps it works better if there are different threads for different themes. Right now all current thoughts are getting lumped into the US Open thread.

For example, there can be a separate thread to discuss how Roger and Nadal's games match up. Some people think that gets talked about too much, so then they wouldn't have to go to that thread. I like to read a mixture of thougths but I am sure that we all just get tired if one or two people keep harping on the same thing. Now I admit I am a big worry wort and my pet peeve is the way Nadal seems to get lucky in his draws. That talk annoys some....but I am just saying what crosses my mind. So if that were in a separate thread it could be better.

Regardless, I think we have to realize that we are all here looking for someone to talk with about Roger. When there are no on going matches then we tend to talk about any thing else we can think of. So let's cut each other some slack.

PamV
08-28-2005, 08:10 PM
still waiting for that silly OOP... so is ROGI playing tomorrow or what???



It does not look like it. Nadal v. Reynolds is scheduled for tomorrow at 11:30 am on the Grandstand. Agassi plays at night.

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/index.html

Stevens Point
08-28-2005, 08:11 PM
I read in a German article (Swiss) that Roger's first match will take place as early as on Tuesday.

nobama
08-28-2005, 08:38 PM
OK they must be playing the bottom half of the mens draw first. I don't think Andy plays tomorrow either. So then I'm guessing Roger's first match will be Tuesday during the day. I'm sure Andy's first match will be at night since he's such a crowd favorite.

Fergie
08-28-2005, 08:39 PM
I can't wait for Tuesday ... Hopp Rogi!!! :bounce:

oneandonlyhsn
08-28-2005, 08:52 PM
I can't wait for Tuesday ... Hopp Rogi!!! :bounce:

Me either, what will I watch tomorrow :sad:

Doris Loeffel
08-28-2005, 09:18 PM
Ahhhmmm isn't the first round of the US Open spread over 3 days?? (You know US just have to have silly and even more unfaire rules) So don't be surprised if Roger won't play before Wednesday!!!

Good luck Roger!!

Stevens Point
08-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Just a small news. It seems Marat withdrew from the Open due to his knee injury...

TenHound
08-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Maybe we need a "Miscellaneous" thread, and a "Rooting" thread. On the latter, Soonya can start it & post that she wants only happy rooting stuff. That's great for people who want that. But it must be separate from the regular tournament thread that Silvy starts, or the match report threads.

Speaking of Miscellaneous, Blake's playing Lopez in Yale Final now. I thought they were playing something else. Lopez is dressed Exactly like Thuggy, complete w/headband matching his white ugly pants & grey sleeveless hairy armpit top. As he's alanky brunette as well, from a distance you can't tell who's who!! God, the style disease is spreading.

The other interesting thing is they are seriously enforcing the NO Coaching rule. Blake complained. ATP official is standing by Lopez's coach. Lopez completely caved after that. Bizarre. Looks like a love 3rd set - Lopez has just tanked it. From what I just saw, they should consider assessing a fine for tanking.

TenHound
08-28-2005, 09:55 PM
Hurricane update: It's updated to Category 5. Only 3 in that Category have ever hit the country. Just saw a map from Nat'l Weather Service of it's projected path. By Wed. the detritus is expected to make it's way to NY State. I just remembered that it was the detritus of a hurricane that caused such havoc last time. Time to light incense & pray to the Weather Gods.

ExpectedWinner
08-28-2005, 09:56 PM
The title of the thread "USO Grand Slam". I think it's Ok to post thoughts about Nadal, Safin, Roddick, or any other rival here. If(when) theyt lose in the tournament, the talk will be over. I don't believe in jinxing, our :bs: here doesn't play any role in the outcome of the matches.

bavaria100
08-28-2005, 09:58 PM
Me either, what will I watch tomorrow :sad:


:wavey: Me too, I can´t wait to see Roger play again. I´m soo excited. I didn´t see the OOP for tomorrow, but I´m sure there will also be lots of exciting matches. :bigclap: Let´s hope for a great tourney and another Grand Slam for Roger! :bigclap:

PamV
08-28-2005, 10:27 PM
The name of the thread "USO Slam". I think it's Ok to post thoughts about Nadal, Safin, Roddick, or any other rival here. If(when) theyt lose in the tournament, the talk will be over. I don't believe in jinxing, our :bs: here doesn't play any role in the outcome of the matches.
It doesn't matter to me. I thought some complained that you were talking too early about their match up.

For me, I am not sure when you say that Roger's game doesn't match up well against Nadal in what way you mean. If you are saying that Roger can't easily beat Nadal right now, I agree. If you are saying that Nadal has the advantage and would likely dominate Roger if they played right now, I disagree because they haven't played enough on various surfaces for me to reach that conclusion.

Each of the 3 times they've played the circumstances/conditions have been quite different so I don't feel like I know how their games will match up. Of course Nadal will have an advantage on clay and Roger and advantage on grass. On hardcourt, there are many variables that could play a factor. I think Roger is the more skilled player so he will eventually figure out what he has to do.

PamV
08-28-2005, 10:30 PM
Ahhhmmm isn't the first round of the US Open spread over 3 days?? (You know US just have to have silly and even more unfaire rules) So don't be surprised if Roger won't play before Wednesday!!!

Good luck Roger!!

That would be sick. If we have rain delays Roger could eventually end up days behind and have to play two matches on the same day.

By the way during the Fan Day today it looked very windy. :eek:

PamV
08-28-2005, 10:34 PM
The name of the thread "USO Slam". I think it's Ok to post thoughts about Nadal, Safin, Roddick, or any other rival here. If(when) theyt lose in the tournament, the talk will be over. I don't believe in jinxing, our :bs: here doesn't play any role in the outcome of the matches.
By the way, what I meant was if there were going to be general debates about the players that it would be good to have those in a separate threads because that type of thing is not limited to just the USOpen. Besides posts get lost in such a huge rambling thread as this. The debate about how Roger and Rafa's games match up could be an on going discussion even after the USOpen.

However, I am new here if and you all are used to just keeping one huge rambling thread for three weeks......go ahead. It doesn't matter to me.

1sun
08-28-2005, 10:40 PM
yeah, marat has pulled out, good news in a way, but im still worried about jc

ExpectedWinner
08-28-2005, 10:58 PM
It doesn't matter to me. I thought some complained that you were talking too early about their match up.



Gosh, I should put you back on ignore. I wasn't the one who brought Nadal here. Soonha said that Nadal doesn't have a decent chance of beating Federer on fast hc and I disagreed with her.
Check this thread and your numerous high school essays in GM. You are the one who's talking non stop about Nadal (his lucky draws, lack of results on hc, stupid bookies .., his pants :lol:, and so on).

Stevens Point
08-28-2005, 11:06 PM
a short feedback of Roger at US Open and the preview for this year's Open, done by Swiss TV SFDRS (German)

http://real.xobix.ch/ramgen/sfdrs/sp/2005/sp_08282005-450k.rm?start=1:07:37.864&end=1:10:49.238 (high)
http://real.xobix.ch/ramgen/sfdrs/sp/2005/sp_08282005.rm?start=1:07:37.864&end=1:10:49.238 (low)

PamV
08-28-2005, 11:43 PM
Gosh, I should put you back on ignore. I wasn't the one who brought Nadal here. Soonha said that Nadal doesn't have a decent chance of beating Federer on fast hc and I disagreed with her.
Check this thread and your numerous high school essays in GM. You are the one who's talking non stop about Nadal (his lucky draws, lack of results on hc, stupid bookies .., his pants :lol:, and so on).


It doesn't matter who started that point. With threads as long as these people don't necessarily go back and read every new post. That's why I like the idea of separating the topics more so. By the way....I was not complaining about discussing the match up of Roger and Rafa's games. I was merely making a suggestion and trying to be a mediator because when I checked in on this thread it looked like people were fighting here.

Mirkaland is the one who complained about you bringing up another Roger v. Rafa debate. I tried to take both sides and say that if this is annoying to some then let's have a separate thread for those who want to talk about it. OK...if you think it's on-topic then merge it all together, I don't care. I was trying to be diplomatic and helpful and I even joined in your debate about how their games match up.

You just don't seem to understand what I say....so go ahead and put me on ignore. You just take offense at EVERYTHING.