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Freaky Friday

Bolar Bolabi
08-12-2005, 06:16 AM
Nadal over Puerta
Hrbaty over Rusedski
Agassi over Gaudio

Parlay them all.

Pawn
08-12-2005, 09:23 AM
I look forward for other possible solid parlays, meanwhile, this is the most solid parlay i could find:

Nadal x Bjork/Mirnyi x Knowles/Nestor x Myskina @ 2.06

Regards,

skel1983
08-12-2005, 09:58 AM
After an absolute stinker yesterday all my selections went down, i can't recall the last time i picked four players to win and all four bit the dust, unbelievable!!!
Never mind today is another day, the matches are becoming less and less and the odds are getting worst!!!!
Today i see one punt that is worth a shout and that has to be
Rusedski to beat Hrbaty, i didn't see the Hrbaty game against Ferrero (unbelievable scoreline) but i did see the Rusedski game( all agreed Ancic was awful for 80% of the match) But all being said Rusedski groundstrokes were impressive, and if he deals with his serve which he should, i feel he will have plenty of oppurtunites on Hrbaty's serve it's just a matter of taking those chances, but with his new found form and his improving BACKHAND!!(very suprising) he is my pick of the day, and in the back of his mind i think he is after Henmans No.1 in Britain accolade, which can spur him on even more.

What do you think.

NewTennisFan
08-12-2005, 12:47 PM
I'm still thinking over what you said Skel, and I'll get back to you on that.

But there is something on my mind:

Call me crazy, call me absolutely OFF MY FREAKIN' MIND, but I think Puerta can take Nadal today!!!

Why?

Well, here's why. Before this tournament had even begun, people were writing off Puerta. "He can't play on hard courts", was the general tone. Though, the fact of the matter is that...hey...he hadn't even PLAYED in an ATP tournament on hard court since 2003! Yeah, sure, we have previous years to go on, but what we must remember is that in more recent times, Puerta only really started getting good results on ANY court this season! Do his poor hard court results from back in 2003 really stand as a proof that he can't play well on hard? Well, if they were supposed to, then he's disproved it this very week. He's played very well, beating three men whom everybody thought would prove too much for him on the surface.

Statistically, over the course of this tournament Puerta can match Nadal percentage-wise in points won on first serve; he's won a higher percentage of points on second serve; he's managed 20 service aces (compared with Nadal's 3!), and has a far superior record on break point conversions.

Now, you'll probably all point out: "but Nadal's opponents have been far more challenging!" I think this is definitely a very important consideration. Had just about anybody else in the quater-finals swapped places with Puerta in the last three rounds, you'd imagine that they all would've been obvious favorites (compared to Mariano, who's been underdog each time). But I dunno.

Does anybody think that there's a good enough chance to make it worth placing a bet on Puerta's long odds?

skel1983
08-12-2005, 01:19 PM
Defintly, Newtennis fan i will be having a little punt on that, as i said a few days ago i always have a small flutter nothing major, when a player is way overpriced in my opinion!!! I think the last time i looked Nadal was 1/12 to beat Puerta, no way that much of a fav in my opinion, the FO final was obviously on a different surface, but Puerta was in there with big chances throughout that match, so mentally he knows he can stick with Nadal, which i feel is a big part of this match, if he believes he can beat him it will be a close match, obviously It won't be a suprise if Nadal wins say 6-3 6-4, but i think it will come down to three or four points, Nadal's serve on this surface for me will find him out when he meets the big boys(i think he will work on that in the off season) I think most game's will go to Deeuce/30 points, which for me doesn't justify his 1/12 billing!!!

Defo worth a small intrest.

Out of intrest NewTennisfan, i presume you live in the uk so you would'nt have seen the Ferrero match, i haven't look up the stats yet but i guess There was alot of unforced errors from Ferrero's raquet for that scoreline very suprising, have you got any feedback on the match because i know you were quite keen on Ferrero.

fisherking
08-12-2005, 01:55 PM
PUERTA to bt Nadal @7.20
HRBATY to bt Rusesdki @2.00
HANTUCHOVA to bt Sharapova @5.00

odds from betfair

NewTennisFan
08-12-2005, 01:56 PM
Defintly, Newtennis fan i will be having a little punt on that, as i said a few days ago i always have a small flutter nothing major, when a player is way overpriced in my opinion!!! I think the last time i looked Nadal was 1/12 to beat Puerta, no way that much of a fav in my opinion, the FO final was obviously on a different surface, but Puerta was in there with big chances throughout that match, so mentally he knows he can stick with Nadal, which i feel is a big part of this match, if he believes he can beat him it will be a close match, obviously It won't be a suprise if Nadal wins say 6-3 6-4, but i think it will come down to three or four points, Nadal's serve on this surface for me will find him out when he meets the big boys(i think he will work on that in the off season) I think most game's will go to Deeuce/30 points, which for me doesn't justify his 1/12 billing!!!

Defo worth a small intrest.

Out of intrest NewTennisfan, i presume you live in the uk so you would'nt have seen the Ferrero match, i haven't look up the stats yet but i guess There was alot of unforced errors from Ferrero's raquet for that scoreline very suprising, have you got any feedback on the match because i know you were quite keen on Ferrero.

Sadly :( , by the looks of things Hrbaty just played a much better game on the day. It couldn't have been foreseen, in my honest opinion. What I can gather from the match itself is that Ferrero was struggling to win receiving points, and struggling to come even close to matching Hrbaty in points won on first and second serve. Basically, Ferrero just didn't play well, and it's just my luck! Yep, I'm stuck in the middle of a losing streak. Let's hope my (pending) picks today will lift me out of it!

Now, to get back to you on your proposition. I agree with you that Rusedski is looking a very good bet indeed. I feel that the opposition he's had to plough through to get this far have matched Hrbaty's opponents in quality and strength. Statistically, Hrbaty seems to have been playing better as receiver overall - though this may be partly owed to Ferrero's terrible performance last night. As the server, however, Rusedski has a definite edge: he's managed almost 20 service aces over the tournament's duration, and has won over 80% of his points. I think this could prove too much for Hrbaty's receiving game, that is of course PROVIDED that Rusedski can keep it up. Rusedski may also have the subjective advantage of being in his home town, along with the advantage of low expectations - not that the world is expected of Hrbaty.

The other match that looks good to me, for sure, is Mathieu against Beck. Quite honestly, I think that Mathieu is going to DESTROY Beck this afternoon. He's had arguably the hardest route to the quater finals. Sure, Beck may have beat Davydenko and Nalbadian, but they're tricky players who can both be so unreliable at times! Furthermore, over the course of the tournament, Mathieu has out-done Beck in most departments of play. I see no reason why he can't continue that today.

The best bet in my eyes seems to be a parlay on Mathieu and Rusedski. Though saying that, they'll probably both lose! :mad:

Go Puerta, go Mathieu, go Greg.

jetsetdrive
08-12-2005, 03:11 PM
I'm thinking on a Hrbaty and Mattieu double. I was a little surprised to see Ferrero lost yesterday and didn't watch the match but it did seem Ferrero had problems returning. Rusedski has looked quite good so far however.

sports freak
08-12-2005, 04:19 PM
After an absolute stinker yesterday all my selections went down, i can't recall the last time i picked four players to win and all four bit the dust, unbelievable!!!
Never mind today is another day, the matches are becoming less and less and the odds are getting worst!!!!
Today i see one punt that is worth a shout and that has to be
Rusedski to beat Hrbaty, i didn't see the Hrbaty game against Ferrero (unbelievable scoreline) but i did see the Rusedski game( all agreed Ancic was awful for 80% of the match) But all being said Rusedski groundstrokes were impressive, and if he deals with his serve which he should, i feel he will have plenty of oppurtunites on Hrbaty's serve it's just a matter of taking those chances, but with his new found form and his improving BACKHAND!!(very suprising) he is my pick of the day, and in the back of his mind i think he is after Henmans No.1 in Britain accolade, which can spur him on even more.

What do you think.

Wit ya on Rusedski,think he will win too,his got a 3-0 record over Hrbaty and they were comfortable wins therefor his big left hand serve may cos uncomfort,better matchup!!

sports freak
08-12-2005, 04:21 PM
I'm still thinking over what you said Skel, and I'll get back to you on that.

But there is something on my mind:

Call me crazy, call me absolutely OFF MY FREAKIN' MIND, but I think Puerta can take Nadal today!!!

Why?

Well, here's why. Before this tournament had even begun, people were writing off Puerta. "He can't play on hard courts", was the general tone. Though, the fact of the matter is that...hey...he hadn't even PLAYED in an ATP tournament on hard court since 2003! Yeah, sure, we have previous years to go on, but what we must remember is that in more recent times, Puerta only really started getting good results on ANY court this season! Do his poor hard court results from back in 2003 really stand as a proof that he can't play well on hard? Well, if they were supposed to, then he's disproved it this very week. He's played very well, beating three men whom everybody thought would prove too much for him on the surface.

Statistically, over the course of this tournament Puerta can match Nadal percentage-wise in points won on first serve; he's won a higher percentage of points on second serve; he's managed 20 service aces (compared with Nadal's 3!), and has a far superior record on break point conversions.

Now, you'll probably all point out: "but Nadal's opponents have been far more challenging!" I think this is definitely a very important consideration. Had just about anybody else in the quater-finals swapped places with Puerta in the last three rounds, you'd imagine that they all would've been obvious favorites (compared to Mariano, who's been underdog each time). But I dunno.

Does anybody think that there's a good enough chance to make it worth placing a bet on Puerta's long odds?

I think Nadal will win in a tough encounter therefor i would go for the hcp +games on Peurta!!!!

bad gambler
08-12-2005, 04:36 PM
can someone tell me what the odds on mathieu was? cheers

Ays25
08-12-2005, 04:44 PM
can someone tell me what the odds on mathieu was? cheers

i took it at 1.69

NewTennisFan
08-12-2005, 04:45 PM
i took it at 1.69
Then you took it at better than me: 1.61

Doesn't matter.

Mathieu is playing amazingly!

sports freak
08-12-2005, 05:14 PM
Then you took it at better than me: 1.61

Doesn't matter.

Mathieu is playing amazingly!

PHM playing like a man possessed!!!!!!

5 units on Rusedski over Hrbaty 1.95!!!!! :rolleyes:

Nimrodg
08-12-2005, 05:24 PM
I look forward for other possible solid parlays, meanwhile, this is the most solid parlay i could find:

Nadal x Bjork/Mirnyi x Knowles/Nestor x Myskina @ 2.06

Regards,

hopefully Ram/Erlich will defeat Knowels/Nestor :angel: :angel: :angel: Great odds, 3.20.

sports freak
08-12-2005, 05:41 PM
hopefully Ram/Erlich will defeat Knowels/Nestor :angel: :angel: :angel: Great odds, 3.20.

:yeah: :yeah:

Pawn
08-12-2005, 10:28 PM
The match is not starting... :|

Nimrodg
08-13-2005, 09:02 AM
The match is not starting... :|

odds on Ram/erlich dropped to 2.50 and on knowels/nestor raised to 1.4 :yeah:

Eustache
08-13-2005, 12:59 PM
odds on Ram/erlich dropped to 2.50 and on knowels/nestor raised to 1.4 :yeah:

I took it today @3,25 on winamax :D

sports freak
08-13-2005, 06:14 PM
PHM playing like a man possessed!!!!!!

5 units on Rusedski over Hrbaty 1.95!!!!! :rolleyes:

Winner!!!!! :yeah:

Nimrodg
08-13-2005, 10:26 PM
Ram/Erlich !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PHM X AZ ALKMAAR X Rusedski X BJORK/MIRNYI X Ram/Erlich @ 16.81 to the bank hehehe :cool: