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jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 11:31 AM
Since it's his first tournament since Wimbledon, and the first official match after the DC, I don't expect him to get really far here...
The draw is not out yet, but with some luck and if he mantains his confidence level he can have a good tournament.
Thoughts?

Björki
08-05-2005, 11:32 AM
Vamos David :bounce:
Best of luck

*Ljubica*
08-05-2005, 11:44 AM
I don't expect him to go far here either - I think his motivation is purely for the Dc now - and he sees the US season almost as a "necessary evil" where he'll be desparate not to injure himself or get too tired before what he considers the pinnacle of his year - the Davis Cup. I would like to see him go far of course and maybe, if he isn't putting pressure on himself for these tourneys, - then he may do - let's just wait and see. Good Luck to him anyway.

Action Jackson
08-05-2005, 11:46 AM
He can do quite well, but the big prize is at the end of the year.

bibi_s
08-05-2005, 12:02 PM
Since I’ll be able to watch the tournament on TV, I desperately want David to do very well and go as far as he can, why not to the final. Then they’ll show him for sure. It’s been quite long since I last watched him at Wimbledon, and it was the match he lost. So I would say VAMOS!!! :)

frula08
08-05-2005, 12:17 PM
i think that he will do it OK, obviously it will depend a lot of the draw, you know, you can face players like moya, ferrero, and dent in the first rounds, and they can give you a lot of troubles, but i think that he will do an interesting tournament.

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 12:33 PM
Do you know if the draw will be out tomorrow or today?

frula08
08-05-2005, 12:36 PM
unfortunately i dont know.
do you know what are he top seed players that are not goinf to participate?

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 12:41 PM
Federer, Safin, Cañas (I think)

frula08
08-05-2005, 12:44 PM
do you know if david is already in canada?.
i think the draw will be out tomorrow.

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 12:46 PM
I read somewhere that he was leaving yesterday, but I can't confirm it.

RogiFan88
08-05-2005, 01:12 PM
I'm off to Montreal in a few minutes. Draw this afternoon at the tennis site. David better win his first match! Hope to get to him somehow. Wish me luck!

Hasta luego! ;)

*Ljubica*
08-05-2005, 01:47 PM
I'm off to Montreal in a few minutes. Draw this afternoon at the tennis site. David better win his first match! Hope to get to him somehow. Wish me luck!

Hasta luego! ;)

Have a wonderful time in Montreal :hug: - and thanks for the Rep - I can't return it yet because it says I have to spread the love around first :) Enjoy yourself!

gooner88
08-05-2005, 02:08 PM
I'm looking forward to see how Nalbo will do here. I believe he can do well here, he's got good memories from Montreal.
He's definitely going to be fresh, so that's an advantage for him. But most players in the draw are match tight, whether on clay or hard.
I think he just wants to play as much as possible to be match tight for the U.S Open and the DC.

crigazzio
08-05-2005, 05:47 PM
Just one thing , anybody here believe in him before the DC in Australia....i mean somebody told before the matches David will be the King??? No, so i think he can do anything!!!Maybe in this tournament he surprises us again....

Big hug

Kiank
08-05-2005, 05:53 PM
Despite his DC priorities, I expect David to do well there - after all, he must be full of confidence after a beautiful DC performance. And who knows? - I always thought he would claim his first big titles on the hard courts...

gooner88
08-05-2005, 07:44 PM
The draw is out.
Nalbo plays Chela in R1 and is in the same quarter as A-Rod.
Jazz will probably display the complete draw later.

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 07:47 PM
chela??? That's bad luck!!! juan's been playing really well lately. I saw his match against Agassi and Roddick, and even though he lost, he played some very good tennis. I hope David gets there with a LOT of confidence...

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 07:49 PM
Here's the whole draw:
1) NADAL, Rafael ESP v MOYA, Carlos ESP
MELLO, Ricardo BRA v (WC) BESTER, Philip CAN
SRICHAPHAN, Paradorn THA v GROSJEAN, Sebastien FRA
YOUZHNY, Mikhail RUS v (15) GASQUET, Richard FRA

(12) JOHANSSON, Thomas SWE v KARLOVIC, Ivo CRO
MALISSE, Xavier BEL v (WC) DANCEVIC, Frank CAN
ROCHUS, Christophe BEL v PAVEL, Andrei ROM
HORNA, Luis PER v (8) PUERTA, Mariano ARG

(3) RODDICK, Andy USA v MATHIEU, Paul-Henri FRA
Qualifier v ACASUSO, Jose ARG
ROCHUS, Olivier BEL v Qualifier
SODERLING, Robin SWE v (14) STEPANEK, Radek CZE

(9) NALBANDIAN, David ARG v CHELA, Juan Ignacio ARG
Qualifier v BECK, Karol SVK
MELZER, Jurgen AUT v BERDYCH, Tomas CZE
(WC) NIEMEYER, Frederic CAN v (5) DAVYDENKO, Nikolay RUS
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(6) GAUDIO, Gaston ARG v Qualifier
(WC) STECKLEY, Rob CAN v CARLSEN, Kenneth DEN
LOPEZ, Feliciano ESP v EL AYNAOUI, Younes MAR
Qualifier v (11) ROBREDO, Tommy ESP

(13) LJUBICIC, Ivan CRO v DENT, Taylor USA
KIEFER, Nicolas GER v MASSU, Nicolas CHI
Qualifier v SPADEA, Vincent USA
MARTIN, Alberto ESP v (4) AGASSI, Andre USA

(7) CORIA, Guillermo ARG v FERRERO, Juan Carlos ESP
FERRER, David ESP v SANTORO, Fabrice FRA
NOVAK, Jiri CZE v ANDREEV, Igor RUS
HRBATY, Dominik SVK v (10) HENMAN, Tim GBR

(16) GONZALEZ, Fernando CHI v MIRNYI, Max BLR
Qualifier v RUSEDSKI, Greg GBR
SAULNIER, Cyril FRA v ANCIC, Mario CRO
Qualifier v (2) HEWITT, Lleyton AUS

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 07:51 PM
I don't like this draw at all...

gooner88
08-05-2005, 07:51 PM
I agree it's a rough R1 match for Nalbo. All matches are tough in TMS.
Chela's been playing well in America recently, making semis in L.A and narrowly losing to A-Rod.
I hope he plays well with confidence.

gooner88
08-05-2005, 07:58 PM
Nalbo has a losing 4-1 H2H record against Chela. :eek:
Although the first 3 times they played were in 2001 and before when Nalbo was beginning to make it as a pro.
1-1 on hardcourts.

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 08:20 PM
Luckily David won the last match in Cincinnatti 2003

*Ljubica*
08-05-2005, 08:30 PM
This draw just makes me even more mad that he didn't play at least one tournament in the last 4 weeks - even a clay court one would have been better than coming into a Masters' Series event "cold" with no match practice. It's a good thing he said that he didn't care if he lost in the 1st round of these tournaments - because he probably will :rolleyes: I know lots of people here won't agree with me - but his obsession with DC to the detriment of ATP tour matches, ranking and seeding expectations for next year is really annoying me. OK - rant over!

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 08:36 PM
I really like his DC obsession, but I think that he needs to go far in the tournaments to do well at the DC. Even if he loses in the first round he'll have Cincinnatti to get ready for the US Open. Which I think is much more important than the TMS events, and it's much closer to the DC.

gooner88
08-05-2005, 08:38 PM
Many players involved with DC who have a chance of winning it usually make it their top priority for the 2nd half of the season because it's a unique event, especially if you've never won it. But that doesn't mean that Nalbo is going to take the tour any less seriously. I remember Safin having a good season in 2002 when the DC was his top goal.
Hopefully the confidence Nalbo has gained from beating the Aussies can rub off onto his singles play.

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 08:44 PM
I also remember Hewitt putting the tour aside and dropping places in the ranking just to win the DC, and he got it. Even if I dislike Hewitt, I can respect that, and I don't think that's exactly what David's doing, but it's something similar. His top priority right now is the DC, some might like it, some might not, but it's his decision and we must respect that.

*Ljubica*
08-05-2005, 08:50 PM
Many players involved with DC who have a chance of winning it usually make it their top priority for the 2nd half of the season because it's a unique event, especially if you've never won it. But that doesn't mean that Nalbo is going to take the tour any less seriously. I remember Safin having a good season in 2002 when the DC was his top goal.
Hopefully the confidence Nalbo has gained from beating the Aussies can rub off onto his singles play.

Sadly I don't agree with you - I am 99.9% sure that he is taking the Tour less seriously and I personally find this quite offensive. I try to avoid DC discussions here because most people know I'm completely indifferent to it :rolleyes: but I get mad when David makes it such a high priority that his many fans outside of Argentina are being somewhat short-changed by his refusal to play smaller tournaments where they could see him, and his less than committed attitude to some of their tournaments. It's not very fair on Eduardo, Luis and Mariano either - as they will earn money etc from the ATP tournaments - not the DC. And I do respect his right to make a decision and stick to it - but I sure as hell don't like it. Sorry if I have offended anyone :sad:

gooner88
08-05-2005, 08:53 PM
If Argentina had no DC tie in July Nalbo probably would have played a couple of tourneys before Montreal.
It's a difficult balance to achieve in terms of how much Nalbo should play. The fear is overplaying and getting injuries like Davydenko at the moment with his wrist, even though he's playing Montreal.
Nalbo practices and plays to peak for the big events, and I respect and admire that.

*Ljubica*
08-05-2005, 08:54 PM
If Argentina had no DC tie in July Nalbo probably would have played a couple of tourneys before Montreal.
It's a difficult balance to achieve in terms of how much Nalbo should play. The fear is overplaying and getting injuries like Davydenko at the moment.
Nalbo practices and plays to peak for the big events, and I respect and admire that.


He has played 3 days in 6 weeks :rolleyes:

gooner88
08-05-2005, 09:00 PM
He has played 3 days in 6 weeks :rolleyes:

I understand your frustration Rosie.
I so want to see Nalbo play Shanghai, but all the players above him like Gaudio, Agassi e.t.c have been increasing their leads over him.
I think these 3 weeks have been Nalbo's 'summer break' from the tour. From now till November he's playing in lots of tournaments, so I think he took the time off to rest and recharge the batteries.

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 09:00 PM
If Argentina had no DC tie in July Nalbo probably would have played a couple of tourneys before Montreal.
It's a difficult balance to achieve in terms of how much Nalbo should play. The fear is overplaying and getting injuries like Davydenko at the moment with his wrist, even though he's playing Montreal.
Nalbo practices and plays to peak for the big events, and I respect and admire that.
Has David ever played a micky mouse tournament at the USA? I honestly don't remember. I don't think this is any different from prior years...

jazz_girl
08-05-2005, 09:04 PM
Besides, he hasn't even played yet and we're already saying he's gonna lose in the first round. Remember that he was out of the circuit for more than a month before playing and winning in Munich. And he was out because of illness and with no confidence. The situation here is different, he's got a LOT of confidence and he's 100% healthy. I think we should wait and see what happens before throwing him under a truck.

*Ljubica*
08-05-2005, 09:06 PM
I understand your frustration Rosie.
I so want to see Nalbo play Shanghai, but all the players above him like Gaudio, Agassi e.t.c have been increasing their leads over him.
I think these 3 weeks have been Nalbo's 'summer break' from the tour. From now till November he's playing in lots of tournaments, so I think he took the time off to rest and recharge the batteries.


I gave up on the idea of Shanghai a long time ago - but Top 10-15 would have been nice and given him a good start to 2006 as far as seeding for the Aussie Open etc was concerned. As for the tournaments later in the year - well - watch this space - if Argentina win their DC semi I see David pulling out of at least 2 of the 4 European tourneys he is scheduled to play :rolleyes: As to July tourneys - well he was supposed to be playing LA last year but pulled out with injury, and in 2003 he played Sopot and was scheduled for Stuttgart until yet another injury stopped him.

gooner88
08-05-2005, 09:10 PM
I'm not being negative about Nalbo, well at least I'm trying not to be. ;)
For the record I think he can do very well here; his draw isn't the best but it's not the worst.

*Ljubica*
08-05-2005, 09:14 PM
Besides, he hasn't even played yet and we're already saying he's gonna lose in the first round. Remember that he was out of the circuit for more than a month before playing and winning in Munich. And he was out because of illness and with no confidence. The situation here is different, he's got a LOT of confidence and he's 100% healthy. I think we should wait and see what happens before throwing him under a truck.

Can I drive the truck :devil: No seriously - you know my views - this isn't a new thing with me - I've always felt this way about his DC obsession and I'm really upset about the whole thing for many reasons. Yes - he may do well in Montreal - I hope he does - but the principle remains the same - he has not seemed to prepare for the hardcourt saeason as well as he should, and I do feel it's disrespectful to his many fans in the States and Canada. As for his winning Munich - well you know how much I loved everything about Munich - I had a fantastic time there - but it WAS a Mickeymouse tournamrnt - lets' be honest..............he isn't going to get easy rides like he did there against the guys in Montreal!

gooner88
08-05-2005, 09:19 PM
I gave up on the idea of Shanghai a long time ago - but Top 10-15 would have been nice and given him a good start to 2006 as far as seeding for the Aussie Open etc was concerned. As for the tournaments later in the year - well - watch this space - if Argentina win their DC semi I see David pulling out of at least 2 of the 4 European tourneys he is scheduled to play :rolleyes: As to July tourneys - well he was supposed to be playing LA last year but pulled out with injury, and in 2003 he played Sopot and was scheduled for Stuttgart until yet another injury stopped him.

There's still a chance he can make Shanghai, but he has to make the move now over the summer with good results in the 2 TMS's and the U.S Open to give him the platform for the indoor season. If not, getting as high up in the rankings as possible would be great.

frula08
08-06-2005, 01:38 PM
i have been talking about his prioritys for the smallest tournaments since last year, and rose got very angry with me for that, and now, she recognises that he is not care at all about smallest tournaments.
about montreal, i think that he has a hard draw, but he can go throw it, chela is a good player, is playing in hard courts, but i dont think he is better than david, even when david was out of the tour for such a long time, and the argentinian players respect a lot to david (especially in hard courts), and we know that not having match practice is not a problem for david, his problem is his body.
about the draw, he has the advantage that he knows chela a lot, and played against him many times, i prefer chela than a player with a huge serve, like dent of fish or ginepri.
about shanghai, i think that he can still do it, he has to play montreal, cincinatti, us open, beijing, tokyo, viena, madrid, basel, and paris, i think that he will retire from some of those tournaments, but even losing one of those, he have lot of chances to get big points.

*Ljubica*
08-06-2005, 01:55 PM
i have been talking about his prioritys for the smallest tournaments since last year, and rose got very angry with me for that, and now, she recognises that he is not care at all about smallest tournaments.
about montreal, i think that he has a hard draw, but he can go throw it, chela is a good player, is playing in hard courts, but i dont think he is better than david, even when david was out of the tour for such a long time, and the argentinian players respect a lot to david (especially in hard courts), and we know that not having match practice is not a problem for david, his problem is his body.
about the draw, he has the advantage that he knows chela a lot, and played against him many times, i prefer chela than a player with a huge serve, like dent of fish or ginepri.
about shanghai, i think that he can still do it, he has to play montreal, cincinatti, us open, beijing, tokyo, viena, madrid, basel, and paris, i think that he will retire from some of those tournaments, but even losing one of those, he have lot of chances to get big points.

I didn't get angry with you for the comments about the smaller tournaments frula :hug: What always makes me mad - not with you specifically but with many other people - is the comments that intimate that David's coach and Team are wrong in their guidance and advice about where and when he plays etc. It seems like when David does well he is congratulated and his Team are never mentioned as being responsible for his success, but when he does badly they're blamed for making him play in the wrong places or whatever and I hate that, which is partly the reason I don't post here so much or on .net any more because it makes me so mad :devil: I do think it's bad for David to play too many small, Mickeymouse tournaments (there's always a danger of overplaying and getting injured before the big events), and I would never advocate that, but in my opinion, this particualr gap is too long and he should have played at least one smaller tourney like Tim Henman, Andre Agassi and most of the other top players did.

About Shanghai - I agree he has a minimal chance if he plays all the tourneys mentioned,- but the fact is - we all know that he won't :rolleyes: Because of his priorities for the DC - everything else will go out of the window this year and I think that is way wrong. Yes it's true that Lleyton Hewitt cut his schedule down a lot in his DC winning year (and also Marat), but both these players had already reached Number 1 in the World and won at least one Grand Slam before making that decision - David hasn't achieved any of that yet so I don't think his decisions can be compared to theirs. For Hewitt, I think DC was almost the "icing on the cake" after he had achieved so much personally already - it was not the be all and end all of his existance as it seems to be for David.

frula08
08-06-2005, 02:02 PM
i think that he should have played one tournament before canada, not this week, but the tournament that agassi won, it was a good choice, but knowing his attitude to smallest tournaments, that he is not care at all about those, maybe is a risk to play there before some of the important tournaments, and they (nalbandian and his whole team) decided that was better train hard than playing in those tournaments, i am sure that they know much better than us what they have to do, they are with david everyday, and i am sure that they have talked about that.
about nalbandian´s team, i agree, they are always the one that have the problems, not david, but them, but relax, is something very common in argentina, we criticise always the coachs and not the players, which i think is not good at all, that is why i made a mention of infantino and the whole group right after david won his matches in DC.

*Ljubica*
08-06-2005, 02:10 PM
i think that he should have played one tournament before canada, not this week, but the tournament that agassi won, it was a good choice, but knowing his attitude to smallest tournaments, that he is not care at all about those, maybe is a risk to play there before some of the important tournaments, and they (nalbandian and his whole team) decided that was better train hard than playing in those tournaments, i am sure that they know much better than us what they have to do, they are with david everyday, and i am sure that they have talked about that.
about nalbandian´s team, i agree, they are always the one that have the problems, not david, but them, but relax, is something very common in argentina, we criticise always the coachs and not the players, which i think is not good at all, that is why i made a mention of infantino and the whole group right after david won his matches in DC.

To be fair, I believe David does care about the smaller tournaments when he plays them - he doesn't "tank" like some othes do which is something I despise and would NEVER accuse him of doing - he just chooses not to play them. As for him talking about things with his Team - well they may talk to him about his plans,- but trust me - if they say something he doesn't like - he WILL NOT listen to them :devil:

And don't worry frula - I am not accusing you personally- I know the situation about how others are often blamed in Argentina - you've explained it to me before. The situation is somewhat the same here in football (the Manager always gets blamed when the Team lose and I hate that too!), - but in individual sports like tennis it's not the same at all - if Henman or Rusedski lose no one would dream of blaming their coaches - the blame would fall on their shoulders fair and square!

gooner88
08-06-2005, 02:37 PM
Even though I would have preferred Nalbo to play a warm-up tourney before Montreal, taking this time off could be very beneficial to him. He's rested, healthy and ready to go.
Players like Gaudio and Coria have been playing more recently because they know that the clay tourneys are their best chance of getting substantial points, whereas Nalbo can get high points from most tourneys on any surface if on form.

jazz_girl
08-06-2005, 03:04 PM
Next week we'll find out where he's standing right now.

frula08
08-06-2005, 04:17 PM
i think that we should wait to see what happens in the tournament, chela is not going to be an easy opponent, so it will be a good test for david.

Kiank
08-06-2005, 05:48 PM
I'm very much with Rosie in almost each of her latest posts, especially in what concerned David's DC priorities and his HC preparation. And I can't agree more, David didn't yet achieve what Hewitt and Marat did, and his DC decision can't be compared to theirs. I think he had a very good momentum there after beating Hewitt, and could accumulate his confidence with a solid HC season. And I don't think his performance in DC would be threatened at all in case he would commit himself to this HC season more - it's 2 or 3 more best of 5 matches after all.
But again - who knows what will happen? Maybe his confidence is still high and he's got a chance there. Chela is good at the moment, but that's TMS, and it was expected to be tough. I believe David is capable to take him out, and then roll to Roddick. Loosing again in the first round would be disappointing, to say the least, but I hope it won't happen. I am still expecting a lot from this summer.

sophia_c
08-06-2005, 06:23 PM
I think the best thing to do is wait and see...he is obviously rested and had a good couple of weeks...sometimes that can do as much for some players as a good couple of wins....with David he needs to be in the right frame of mind...which he seems to be in now......he is relaxed in his attitude......we don't have long to wait and see how it all goes....

Gigan
08-06-2005, 07:58 PM
Look what they say:

Men's Preview: Week of August 8 (Exclusive)
Men's Look Forward: Canadian Open
At last, a little sanity comes back to the rankings. This is the week get back up to eight Masters events. It's still one short of normal, but it's something we've seen before.

And speaking of "one short," that's what we're missing: The world's #1. Roger Federer, as previously announced, is not playing so he can rest his feet. It's an interesting decision; it gives him an extra week to rest and recover, but it also means that he has to come back in heat of Cincinnati rather than the (at least slightly) more mild conditions in Montreal.

Only three other members of last week's Top Twenty are missing, two of them definitely injured: 2000 champion Marat Safin is still resting his knee, and Joachim Johansson is out for the year after shoulder surgery. The other missing player is 2002 champion Guillermo Canas, who is still in drug testing limbo. (There seems to be a jinx on players who won this event in even years: 2004 champion Federer, 2002 champion Canas, and 2000 winner Safin are not playing, 1998 winner Rafter and 1996 winner Ferreira are retired; leaving 1994 titleist Andre Agassi as the only even-year champion in the draw, and he's gimpy. Whereas 2003 winner Andy Roddick, 2001 victor Andrei Pavel, and 1999 winner Thomas Johansson are all in the field).

Federer's absence lets Rafael Nadal take the top seed -- the first time he's had that seeding at a required event. Rather ironic that it comes away from clay -- hut of course it gives him the chance to show that he can win on something other than dirt. Lleyton Hewitt, who doesn't have anything to prove on hardcourts but who hasn't won a required event in years, is #2. Andy Roddick, seeded #3, is the most recent champion in the draw. Andre Agassi, after skipping last week, is scheduled to play as the #4 seed. Nikolay Davydenko, who has had all sorts of ailments this summer, is #5. Gaston Gaudio, who stayed on clay until this week and then claimed to be unfit to play, is #6 seed and obviously comes in with little hardcourt preparation. #7 seed Guillermo Coria has had event less, been in Sopot all week. #8 seed Mariano Puerta is also just in from Sopot, and his hardcourt results aren't likely to strike fear into many opponents. #9 seed David Nalbandian, on the other hand, is a fine all-surface player. #10 Tim Henman is a good hardcourt performer, but he's having a very disappointing year and lost much too soon in Washington. #11 Tommy Robredo is slowly improving his results on all surfaces, but he has yet to post a really spectacular hardcourt result. #12 Thomas Johansson is of course a former champion. #13 Ivan Ljubicic started the year well and faded. So has #14 Radek Stepanek. #15 Richard Gasquet has done nothing but improve from month to month -- but, like Nadal, he still has to show that he can do it on hardcourt. Fernando Gonzalez, whose approach to the game seems to spell hardcourts but whose results spell clay, is the #16 seed.

Which leaves quite a few big names unseeded: Carlos Moya, Paradorn Srichaphan, Sebastien Grosjean, Mikhail Youzhny, Andrei Pavel, Robin Soderling, Juan Ignacio Chela, Feliciano Lopez, Taylor Dent, Nicolas Kiefer, Nicolas Massu, Juan Carlos Ferrero, David Ferrer, Jiri Novak, Dominic Hrbaty, Greg Rusedski, Mario Ancic -- well, what can we say? It's a Masters Series. With only the most minor exceptions, everyone who can be here is here. Even Younes El Aynaoui is back, after not playing at the ATP level for some months.

Noteworthy First Round Matches

Obviously a very long list. Starting at the top of the draw:

(1) Nadal vs. Moya. Historically Carlos Moya has had the better hardcourt results (though he's had a lot longer to compile them). But he hasn't been playing very well since his shoulder injury. And Nadal did reach the final of his last hardcourt event, at Miami. Psychologically, this is very interesting, since Moya has been rather a mentor for Nadal.

Srichaphan vs. Grosjean. Two players whose rankings have fallen a lot lately. Srichaphan has been showing signs of life; Grosjean hasn't, really. But the Frenchman is probably a better player when he's at his best. On the other hand, Srichaphan probably likes hardcourts better.

Youzhny vs. (15) Gasquet. Youzhny has not been having a very good year, but he's much more accustomed to hardcourts.

(12) T. Johansson vs. Karlovic. If what happened at Washington is any indication, the outcome of this may depend on just how hot it is; Karlovic, by virtue of his size, seems to be very easily affected by heat.

C. Rochus vs. Pavel. Pavel is a former champion, but he has been struggling, and Rochus is having a career year.

Horna vs. (8) Puerta. Horna, strangely for a South American, seems to be at his best on hardcourts, and Puerta definitely isn't. History implies a high chance of an upset, especially since Puerta has been struggling even on clay since Roland Garros.

Soderling vs. (14) Stepanek. Stepanek is in a funk, and the surface may be better for Soderling anyway.

(9) Nalbandian vs. Chela. Two countrymen, with Nalbandian the better but more fragile.

Melzer vs. Berdych. Berdych seems at last to have come back to life. Melzer -- who knows?

(13) Ljubicic vs. Dent. Talk about a serving contest! Ljubicic has a bit more off the ground, so court speed could be important.

Kiefer vs. Massu. Two guys who have been slipping this year. The surface is better for Kiefer, and he has less to defend in the next month. Can Massu get his game together before his Olympics points come off next week?

(7) Coria vs. Ferrero. Juan Carlos Ferrero has definitely been getting his game back, but Coria continues to beat him like a drum. On the other hand, Ferrero gave himself time to practice on hardcourts, and Coria didn't.

Ferrer vs. Santoro. Can the Spaniard's speed offset Santoro's kitchen sink of shots? This is Santoro's best Masters: He has a career record of 17-8 in Canada, with a semifinal and four quarterfinals.

Novak vs. Andreev. Two guys who are happier on other surfaces. Novak has the edge in experience, Andreev probably in enthusiasm.

Hrbaty vs. (10) Henman. The surface favors Henman. But he really has to start playing better!

(16) Gonzalez vs. Mirnyi. If Gonzalez keeps the ball in the court, his passing shots will win this. Will he keep the ball in the court?

The Rankings

We already mentioned the peculiar nature of this week: Players will take off an optional event and add a required. And, almost without exception, it will be their seventh (or however-manyeth) optional event coming off. The only guys in the Montreal draw who are defending anything of significance are Rafael Nadal (who won his first title at Sopot a year ago) and Jose Acasuso (the Sopot finalist). A few others -- Marat Safin and Nikolay Davydenko among them -- played Sopot, but without doing anything.

Which means that, for all practical purposes, players will simply be adding points this week.

It's not going to matter much at the top. Roger Federer's #1 ranking of course is in no danger. Rafael Nadal should stay #2, and Hewitt #3. The one significant move in the Top Five is that Andy Roddick has a chance to blow past Marat Safin and take a firm grip on the #4 ranking.

Andre Agassi of course has the chance to regain the ground he lost when his Cincinnati title came off. It's pretty much a contest between him and Nikolay Davydenko for the #6 spot.

We will of course have quite a few players with Top Ten chances. David Nalbandian seems the most likely to move up, but we'll be in a better position to predict that around Wednesday, after we've presumably shaken out the clay-courters.

Key Matches

Given those rankings numbers, there aren't all that many of those. The biggest questions really resolve around how will various players perform. Can Nadal finally win a non-clay title? His path certainly isn't helpful: After facing Moya in the first, he has a fairly easy second round, but then Gasquet, then probably Thomas Johansson, then Roddick. Roddick himself should have an easy route to the quarterfinal, but there, he has to face either Nalbandian or Davydenko -- guys who can extend a rally much longer than Roddick wants it to last.

#2 seed Hewitt really came to life around this time last year, with the Cincinnati final (already off), the Long Island title, and the U. S. Open final. Even though he isn't defending at this time, he definitely wants to take advantage of his (really quite nice) draw: A qualifier, then probably Mario Ancic, then Gonzalez, then Henman or Coria, then Agassi or somebody.

Agassi himself wants to show that his title at Los Angeles was no fluke, and that he's still able to play long enough to win a big event. His opening match, against speedy Alberto Martin, may test his stamina, as may Vincent Spadea in the second. Still, his quarter is among the easiest in the draw -- the first seed he would face is the slumping Ljubicic, then Robredo or Gaudio. The really interesting question may be, If he does well, will he play Cincinnati also?

The other match we'd keep our eyes on is the Round of Sixteen meeting between Nalbandian and Davydenko. A win there would give Nalbandian real Top Ten chances.

A fuller version of this story is found in Pro Tour News, one of the sections of Bob Larson’s Daily Tennis. Details on how to subscribe are found elsewhere on this web site.
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Kiank
08-06-2005, 08:36 PM
...
The other match we'd keep our eyes on is the Round of Sixteen meeting between Nalbandian and Davydenko. A win there would give Nalbandian real Top Ten chances.

Apparently, the author of this article has great hidden expectations from David!
Davydenko was recently suffering from injuries, so David would have good chances against him, assuming he took out Chela.
Back to David's preparation, I really hope he feels confident, understands the importance of the moment and working hard. His Shanghai chances look obscure, but couple of successful TMS and US Open can fix that. Vamos, David, mature and gather yourself together, forget about your cars for couple of months, and become what so many people want you to become: a great champion.

justClaudia
08-06-2005, 09:36 PM
Vamos, David, mature and gather yourself together, forget about your cars for couple of months, and become what so many people want you to become: a great champion.


:yeah:

The best of luck to him.

Eugenia
08-06-2005, 10:38 PM
David vs Juani... I hate that draw so much!!! :mad: Why my two favourites players has to face in the 1st round?!?!? :crying2:

Christina
08-06-2005, 11:21 PM
He's playing doubles too. Interesting first round match up:
NALBANDIAN, David (ARG)/PUERTA, Mariano (ARG) v GAUDIO, Gaston (ARG)/LOPEZ, Feliciano (ESP)

Good luck in Montreal David! :yeah:

*Ljubica*
08-07-2005, 10:13 AM
He's playing doubles too. Interesting first round match up:
NALBANDIAN, David (ARG)/PUERTA, Mariano (ARG) v GAUDIO, Gaston (ARG)/LOPEZ, Feliciano (ESP)

Good luck in Montreal David! :yeah:

Welcome to our Forum Christina :wavey:

jazz_girl
08-07-2005, 11:23 AM
Doubles too???? That's so great!!! But the bad part is that they won't be showing it in Argentina for sure :mad: And against Gastón!!! Shit!
According to Olé, David arrived to Montreal yesterday.

Björki
08-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Vamos David in singles and doubles :bounce:

gooner88
08-07-2005, 10:55 PM
Order of Play for Monday 8th August (My Birthday)

Central start 11:00 AM
M Youzhny (RUS) vs (15)R Gasquet (FRA)
Not before 1:00 PM
D Hrbaty (SVK) vs (10)T Henman (GBR)
(9)D Nalbandian (ARG) vs J Chela (ARG)
Not before 7:30 PM
A Martin (ESP) vs (4)A Agassi (USA)
(WC)F Niemeyer (CAN) vs (5)N Davydenko (RUS)

jazz_girl
08-07-2005, 11:10 PM
Happy birthday gooner! :)
I think I'll be able to see this match since it's in Central Court and ESPN starts the broadcast at 2pm here in Argentina

gooner88
08-07-2005, 11:24 PM
Thanks Jazz. :wavey:

I think I will be able to see the Nalbo match here too in the U.K, unless the other matches on central go on for too long.

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 12:04 AM
Let's hope they can hurry :)

*Ljubica*
08-08-2005, 05:15 AM
Happy Birthday gooner :hug: I forget how much I hate this part of the season til I remember that the matches don't start til I'm about to go to bed :devil: I hope the other two matches hurry up too, because I can't stay up past about 10.00pm when I get up at 5.00am :devil:

Choupi
08-08-2005, 07:37 AM
I guess I'm gonna be able to see David's match...good luck to him. :) And oh, Happy Birthday Gooner! :p

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 10:10 AM
Happy birthday Gooner....hope David can give you a nice gift of winning....

Björki
08-08-2005, 10:12 AM
Happy Birthday Gooner :)

gooner88
08-08-2005, 10:19 AM
Happy birthday Gooner....hope David can give you a nice gift of winning....

That would be very nice. :D
Thanks for the warm birthday messages from everyone. :hug:

sigmagirl91
08-08-2005, 10:32 AM
Happy Birthday, Gooner. Have a good one.

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 11:25 AM
This is what David said about his goals for the rest of the year before taking the plane:
http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pagina.jsp?pagId=1029620
"The goals for the second part of the year are to get to the Shanghai Masters and winning the Davis Cup. I feel very confortable in the US tournaments and in the end of season, I know I can make it to China"

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 11:26 AM
Tiff, do you know what's the time difference between Canada and Argentina?

sigmagirl91
08-08-2005, 11:34 AM
Tiff, do you know what's the time difference between Canada and Argentina?

Montreal is on the same time as we are, so an hour, I think?

gooner88
08-08-2005, 11:39 AM
It's great to read that Nalbo has set making Shanghai as one of his goals along with the DC. :)
He needs to get good results more consistently, but he can do it. :yeah:

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 12:06 PM
Thanks Tiff!

frula08
08-08-2005, 01:26 PM
how do you think that the match will be?.
and what time is the match starting (in argentina).

Kyla
08-08-2005, 01:43 PM
All the best to David for this tournament!!!!

And all the best to you gooner for your birthday! :)

gooner88
08-08-2005, 02:14 PM
how do you think that the match will be?.
and what time is the match starting (in argentina).

The simple answer is who knows when the match will start with 2 matches on before the Nalbo match.
A rough estimate would be a start at around 8pm here in Britain, which is 4pm in Argentina I think.

Kiank
08-08-2005, 03:02 PM
Happy Birhtday Gooner! I hope David's first TMS shield will be a gift to remember for you.
And thanks Jazz for posting about David's goals for the rest of the year! That's encouraging.
You guys are lucky to be able to see some of the David's matches in the first rounds.

Julio1974
08-08-2005, 05:00 PM
Happy birthday Gooner ! I hope that David wiill give you a nice present today (but I'm bit scared)

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 05:43 PM
Well Henman is 5-3 up in the first set...if he keeps on like this we should see David at about 8pm...maybe 8.30pm...hopefully...

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 05:45 PM
I guess David will be playing in an hour or so. But I just saw that the temperature there is over 40°C :eek: :eek: :eek:

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 06:14 PM
Yeah..it is hot Jime...its 32 degrees and almost 40 on the court...wow...

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 06:26 PM
Hi Sophia! Did gravity send you a pm?
It seems like Henman took a break while I was taing a shower and now is struggling to stay in the set...

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 06:59 PM
No pm's...sorry Jime...

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 07:00 PM
Henman is annoying me now....this is so typical of him

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:05 PM
Sophia, he's fine. Apprently he was away in a business trip. Stop worrying now ;)

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 07:08 PM
Well that is good news...I had some bad visions...given the date of his disappearance...glad he is well....

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:11 PM
All of us had bad visions...

Well, Hrbaty's won and now David will be on. Do you want me to give point by point scores?

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 07:16 PM
well for once Jime...we are able to see a match with David in it...woohoo!!...it doesn't happen often here...so I am settling down now to watch it....have a diet coke and all I need...so Vamos David!!...but thanks anyway...we can keep in touch about the scores anyway...right?

Kyla
08-08-2005, 07:22 PM
:woohoo: It's about to start!

I'll upload some pix while watching the live score :)

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:24 PM
Great! All of us are watching it :)
David is wearing new clothing. Black and white

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 07:29 PM
Our commentators are saying David is a class act...but he over complicates everything!!!!

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:29 PM
I'll opst the scores in case someone's not following
David to serve
fault
15-0
30-0 UE
fault
40-0 UE
good service
1-0*

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 07:30 PM
Yeah..the black and white is good on him..not like the blue..but a girl can't have everything....

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:31 PM
15-0 long return
30-0 forehand winner
fault
40-0 UE
FE
*1-1

Björki
08-08-2005, 07:33 PM
Vamos David :bounce:

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:34 PM
15-0 UE
fault
30-0 UE
40-0 UE
fault
forehand winner. Chela says it was out, and he's right.
I really like Chela. so I feel weird cheering against him :lol:
2-1*

Kiank
08-08-2005, 07:35 PM
Great! All of us are watching it :)
David is wearing new clothing. Black and white
I think he was wearing black and white before, against Agassi in Huston I believe? It's not critical, of course. Vamos, beat Chela!

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:39 PM
fault
0-15 UE
fault
0-30 UE
0-40 UE
fault
15-40 awful return
30-40 UE
deuce forehand winner

Kyla
08-08-2005, 07:40 PM
Damn, he just had 3 bps and couldn't convert...

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:41 PM
ad Chela good service
deuce great forehand winner
fault
LET
ad Chela FE
good service
*2-2

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:46 PM
fault
15-0 FE
fault
15-15 UE
fault
30-15 UE
fault
30-30 FE
40-30 UE
fault
long return
3-2*

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:47 PM
Let's hope he can break now. 3 bp wasted already :rolleyes:

Björki
08-08-2005, 07:48 PM
vamos David break now

Kiank
08-08-2005, 07:50 PM
How is his service so far Jazz?

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:51 PM
fault
15-0 UE
15-15 backhand winner
30-15 ace
40-15 netted service
fault
40-30 FE
FE
*3-3

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:54 PM
His service is not good, he doesn't have many first serves in.
0-15 UE
fault
15-15 UE
fault
30-15 long return
fault
30-30 return winner
30-40 return winner
UE :mad:
3-4*

Björki
08-08-2005, 07:55 PM
No!!!

Kiank
08-08-2005, 07:56 PM
Oh no...

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 07:57 PM
Okay...David needs to stop floating the ball around and get more aggressive.....okay...like this...0-30 to David

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 07:58 PM
0-15 forehand winner
LET
0-30 volley winner
0-40 drop winner (it was a drop thanks to a lucky net cord)
fault
fault
*4-4 back on serve

Björki
08-08-2005, 08:00 PM
now hold here David.

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:02 PM
fault
15-0 UE
fault
30-0 UE
fault
40-0 netted return
40-15 FE
LET
fault
40-30 FE with a good return from Chela
deuce UE

Cañas has been suspended for two year!!! :eek: :eek: :sad:

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:03 PM
ad david backhand winner
fault
UE
5-4*

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:04 PM
so sorry for Canas... did our man hold?

Björki
08-08-2005, 08:04 PM
Cañas has been suspended for two year!!! :eek: :eek: :sad:
so it's official? :eek:

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:07 PM
Cañas can still appeal, is not the last word, but still :sad: Our commentators said that means a goodbye. This doesn't seem right at all...
fault
0-15 amazing point with an amazing lob winner
0-30 UE

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:07 PM
now he's better break and take the first set. Can he finally learn to win something without twisting his ass upside down?

Björki
08-08-2005, 08:07 PM
how long were Chela and Coria suspended?? I can't remember but IMHO not 2 years?

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:08 PM
15-30 good service
fault
15-40 nice forehand winner on the line
UE
6-4 :yeah:

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:10 PM
Great!

Björki
08-08-2005, 08:10 PM
:yeah: vamos David :bounce:

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 08:11 PM
What...Canas got 2 years???...omg...no....I can't believe it...glad David got the first set....okay...its just been confirmed...Canas got 2 years...has to repay $250,000 in prize money and will lose over 500 atp points....

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:12 PM
how long were Chela and Coria suspended?? I can't remember but IMHO not 2 years?
They were suspende by much less than that. The ATP said it was a diuretic and he'll have to return 500 points and a bit less than 300.000 dollars
David serving:
15-0 backhand winner
15-15 backhand winner
30-15 UE

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:13 PM
fault
40-15 UE
fault
UE
6-4 1-0*

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:15 PM
15-0 UE
fault
30-0 netted return
40-0 backhand winner
UE
*1-1

Björki
08-08-2005, 08:15 PM
thanks Jazz.

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:16 PM
very good David won first set while I was around posting pix

Canas: WOT???!!!!! That's awful :( :bigcry:

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:17 PM
fault
15-0 volley winner
30-0 forehand winner
fault
40-0 UE
volley winner
2-1*

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:18 PM
Terrible for Canas. It's hard to tell who is to blame here, I am sorry, but probably himself.

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:20 PM
Some nice volleys there?

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:21 PM
:woohoo: another 2 bps - now convert!

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:22 PM
Our commentators are saying that all the jury agreed in the penalty and that he'll appeal it.
15-0 UE
fault
15-15 nice backhand winner
15-30 FE
15-40 DF
30-40 FE
forehand winner
*3-1

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:22 PM
YES! 3-1

Björki
08-08-2005, 08:23 PM
:woohoo: hold now.
I have to go bed :( :wavey:

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:24 PM
nitey Björki :wavey:

Hope you'll wake up to good news!

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:25 PM
fault
15-0 UE
15-15 FE
fault
30-15 UE
40-15
fault
volley winner
4-1*

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 08:25 PM
Yes!!!!!

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:25 PM
:woohoo: 4-1 that was quick :)

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 08:26 PM
I think you are safe to go to bed now Bjorki...fingers crossed ;) ..Goodnight... :wavey:

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:26 PM
Now bring on A- Rod!

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:29 PM
0-15 volley winner (David's playing some really nice points now, using his head)
15-15 netted return
fault
30-15 UE
30-30 nice backhand winner
30-40 UE
fault
deuce netted return

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:29 PM
Another bp!

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 08:29 PM
David is hitting some excellent shots now...so accurate and precise....and of course technically brilliant...

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:29 PM
hrmph - ad Chela

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:31 PM
David is hitting some excellent shots now...so accurate and precise....and of course technically brilliant...
Good to hear! Hope he can keep that up for the rest of the week - and the rest of the year ;)

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:31 PM
ad Chela UE
LET
fault
deuce FE (making chela run all over the court)
fault
ad david awful UE
volley winner with a great return first
*5-1

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:32 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo:

Now serve it out!

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:34 PM
wow, looks like a pretty clean match there. if he keeps this level up, he is capable to frustrate anybody, including the Duck.

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:34 PM
fault
15-0 long return
15-15 DF
30-15 ace :eek:
40-15 long return
backhand winner
6-4 6-1 I guess this is what confidence makes :) :banana:

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:34 PM
YEEEHAAA!

jazz_girl
08-08-2005, 08:35 PM
he'll be playing Beck now

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:35 PM
And just 66 minutes :)! Hope he can keep that up!

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:36 PM
Good job, Jazz. Congrats everybody! I hope this will boost his confidence tremendously, and he thrashes the rest of the field this week.

sophia_c
08-08-2005, 08:36 PM
He did so well...it wasn't the greatest match...David did enough to win...and at some points he played very well...so glad he won...and yeah it helps with the confidence....next up Beck....

Kyla
08-08-2005, 08:36 PM
I think Beck's perfectly doable ;). Ohmegod - I've just seen Gaudio's score :eek: he's lost the first set 1-6! :eek:

revolution
08-08-2005, 08:37 PM
Well done David, mixed feelings I guess as I picked Chela for PAW :sad:

Kiank
08-08-2005, 08:41 PM
He has never played him before, but I think he will take him out in straights.

frula08
08-08-2005, 09:01 PM
he played really good, if we think that chela lost 6-4 in the third set against roddick last week.
he plays doubles tomorrow at 2.00 pm in an outside court (i dont remember which one).

frula08
08-08-2005, 09:03 PM
his service was not OK, but i think he will improve it, is his first match in a long time, and we know his service is not his best weapon.

sigmagirl91
08-08-2005, 09:09 PM
I think Beck's perfectly doable ;). Ohmegod - I've just seen Gaudio's score :eek: he's lost the first set 1-6! :eek:

Yeah...after being up 30-0 on Sanguinetti's serve in the first game.

sigmagirl91
08-08-2005, 09:11 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised at this result. Good going, David.

justClaudia
08-08-2005, 09:53 PM
Good job, David :banana:

Thanks for the scores Jazz, great as always! ;)

gooner88
08-08-2005, 10:03 PM
A good solid performance from Nalbo. :)
His play got better as the match went on and played some really nice points in the second set.
The match against Beck will be interesting, especially as they will probably play each other in the DC next month.

Clara Bow
08-08-2005, 10:24 PM
Happy to hear that it was a good solid win.

Wishing the best of luck to David for the rest of the tourney. :)

Eugenia
08-08-2005, 11:03 PM
Well done David, mixed feelings I guess as I picked Chela for PAW :sad:

I have mixed feelings too, because David and Juan are my favourites players!!! And I really don't want that one of them be out of the tournaments in the first day... Anyways, good effort Juan and congratulations David!!! :D

Eugenia
08-08-2005, 11:05 PM
I think Beck's perfectly doable ;). Ohmegod - I've just seen Gaudio's score :eek: he's lost the first set 1-6! :eek:

Gaston finally won his match 1-6 7-6(5) 7-5 :worship:

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 01:12 AM
Gastón! What a way to suffer!!! :lol: I think he's been too close to David lately :lol:

Gigan
08-09-2005, 01:16 AM
Gastón! What a way to suffer!!! :lol: I think he's been too close to David lately :lol:
did you post this pic? lot of pix..
Andre won too, not so much time...
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050808/capt.xpch11408082104.canada_rogers_cup_xpch114.jpg
________________________________________
:wavey: Andre Agassi forever :wavey:

Björki
08-09-2005, 06:10 AM
Well done David! :)

bad gambler
08-09-2005, 06:43 AM
Hey guys :wavey:

Just wanted to let you know before I go to bed that I watched Nalby destroy Chela - he was simply awesome. Some of his shots in the second set were amazing and at one point Chela looked to the crowd and shrugged, it was hilarious :lol:

If he doesn't bottle, he can definitely win this tournament given federer is not around

:wavey:

Jill
08-09-2005, 06:48 AM
Good to see that David won. Well done. The score line looks like the match was kind of easy - was it? I'm away on holidays at the moment so getting on the internet to see scores is far and few between. I know that the matches are being shown on TV but it is the middle of the night where I am so shopping all day I need my beauty sleep !!!

Nice to see David wearing black. I love him in this colour. :hearts:

Keep up the good work and hopefully I can follow from everyones post match comments.

Good luck David.

Björki
08-09-2005, 07:25 AM
Court 10 - Matches Start At: 2:00 PM

David NALBANDIAN (ARG)/Mariano PUERTA (ARG)
vs
Gaston GAUDIO (ARG)/Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP)

Choupi
08-09-2005, 07:29 AM
I've watched part of the match, mostly the 1st set, and David was :yeah: I wish him good luck for the next match, but for the doubles, I'm shared and everybody can understand why!

Lottie09
08-09-2005, 07:36 AM
Thanks for the report guys! :wavey: I made a mistake on my TV recorder, so I missed it :sad: . Hope they show the doubles - VAMOS DAVID y MARIANO!!! :worship:

sigmagirl91
08-09-2005, 08:53 AM
Court 10 - Matches Start At: 2:00 PM

David NALBANDIAN (ARG)/Mariano PUERTA (ARG)
vs
Gaston GAUDIO (ARG)/Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP)

Oh, yes...the Pantene match.

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 10:52 AM
:lol:

bibi_s
08-09-2005, 12:08 PM
I had the chance to watch David’s match and I think that for one who hadn’t played for so long he played very well. He moved very quickly and looked really fresh and played smart and with hunger to win. Did anyone of you notice that they showed two men who I don’t know (Gonzalez brothers) and they introduced them as his coach and fitness trainer? I couldn’t see Eduardo Infantino. Does anyone know something about all this?

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 12:25 PM
Eduardo might have been there and they didn't show him. I have no idea, but it's pretty possible since they introduced his brother as "Javier Rodriguez/coach" :lol:

bibi_s
08-09-2005, 12:31 PM
So it was his brother Javier? I couldn’t recognize him at all. But why Rodriguez? Is it one of their many names? Thank you Jazz!

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 12:36 PM
Yes, it was Javier Nalbandian, but I guess they liked it Rodriguez better on him :lol: Our commentators were mentioning it while watching that mistake as well. Then they turned the camera to his PT, and it said Diego Rodriguez, so I guess they confused the last name...

bibi_s
08-09-2005, 12:42 PM
Now it’s clear. By the way they were making a lot of mistakes with the score points. Must have been because of the high temperatures there.

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 12:46 PM
Yeah, they also put Chela as the 9th seed...

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 06:52 PM
Anyone here? David's about to start playing doubles with Mariano.
Gastón and Feliciano will start serving.

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 06:54 PM
15-30
15-40
foot fault (Gastón must be serving ;) )
30-40
*1-0 they guys broke :)

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:00 PM
15-0
30-0
40-0
2-0*
Holding at love, my guess is that Mariano was serving :lol:

15-0
30-0
30-15
30-30
30-40
40-40
ad Lopez
*2-1

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:06 PM
15-0 ace (I guess David was serving before and this is Mariano :lol: )
15-15
30-15 ace No doubt, it's Mariano...
40-15
*3-1

0-15 DF
15-15
30-15
40-15
*3-2

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:12 PM
15-0
15-15
30-15
40-15
4-2*
15-0
15-15
30-15
40-15
*4-3

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:18 PM
15-0
30-0
40-0
40-15
ace
5-3*

0-15
0-30
0-40

David and Mariano took the first set by 6-3 :woohoo:

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:27 PM
15-0
30-0
40-0
40-15
1-0*

15-0
30-0
40-0
*1-1

0-15
15-15
15-30
15-40

1-2*

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:36 PM
15-0
30-0
30-15
30-30
30-40
*2-2

0-15
15-15
15-30
15-40
30-40
2-3*

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:39 PM
0-15
15-15
30-15
40-15
*2-4

0-15
15-15
30-15
40-15
3-4*

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:50 PM
0-15
15-15
15-30
30-30
40-30
40-40
ad Lopez
*3-5

0-15
15-15
30-15
40-15
4-5*

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 07:53 PM
15-0
30-0
30-15
40-15
40-30
6-3 4-6

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 08:10 PM
*0-0
15-0
15-15
15-30
15-40
30-40
40-40
ad Nalbandian/Puerta
40-40
ad Nalbandian/Puerta
1-0*

15-0
15-15
30-15
30-30
40-30
40-40
ad Gaudio/Lopez
40-40
ad Nalbandian/Puerta
40-40
ad Gaudio/Lopez
deuce
ad Nalbandian/Puerta
deuce
ad Gaudio/Lopez
*1-1

15-0
30-0
30-15
40-15
2-1*

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 08:22 PM
0-15
15-15
15-30
30-30
40-30
40-40
ad Gaudio/Lopez
40-40
ad Gaudio/Lopez
deuce
ad Nalbandian/Puerta
*3-1

0-15
15-15
30-15
30-30
40-30
4-1*

jazz_girl
08-09-2005, 08:27 PM
0-15
0-30
15-30
15-40
*5-1

15-0
30-0
30-15
40-15
David and Mariano have won by 6-3 4-6 6-1 :woohoo:

sigmagirl91
08-09-2005, 09:18 PM
0-15
0-30
15-30
15-40
*5-1

15-0
30-0
30-15
40-15
David and Mariano have won by 6-3 4-6 6-1 :woohoo:

:D

gooner88
08-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Nice to see that Nalbo and Puerta won. :)
Good luck tomorrow against Beck.

gooner88
08-09-2005, 10:51 PM
Order of Play for Wednesday 10th August.

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2005/421/op.pdf

Nalbo is 4th match on Court 5.
He is also playing on the last match of the day on Court Central in the doubles.
If he wins tomorrow against Beck, I hope he isn't burnt out for Thursday.

sigmagirl91
08-09-2005, 11:04 PM
My goodness!! David has a full day tomorrow.

gooner88
08-09-2005, 11:09 PM
I know Sigma, but Nalbo knows what he's getting himself into.
It would've made more sense for the tournament schedulers to place the Nalbo-Beck match earlier in the day, considering he is also playing doubles.
Anyway, what do I know.

sigmagirl91
08-10-2005, 12:06 AM
I feel the same way...what do I know? Other players are in the same boat, playing singles and doubles, so....I guess it's OK. :shrug:

Eugenia
08-10-2005, 01:15 AM
Well done David and Mariano! :woohoo:

GonzoFan
08-10-2005, 03:47 AM
GOOD LUCK DAVID AGAINST BECK TOMORROW !!! :yeah:

Kiank
08-10-2005, 04:17 AM
It's nice David and Mariano won, but that's where the problems begin... This is a real opportunity for David in the singles, with Federer, Roddick and Hewitt now out. He has great chances to go all the way, and this doubles thing is absolutely pointless in his situation. I just hope he really concentrates on the singles, and doesn't kill himself trying to win the doubles matches. And I really hope this is the last time he plays both singles and doubles in the important tournaments.

Björki
08-10-2005, 06:25 AM
Well done David & Mariano :clap2:

jazz_girl
08-10-2005, 02:09 PM
Order of Play for Wednesday 10th August.

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2005/421/op.pdf

Nalbo is 4th match on Court 5.
He is also playing on the last match of the day on Court Central in the doubles.
If he wins tomorrow against Beck, I hope he isn't burnt out for Thursday.
Knowing how well they organize it, I'm sure that if David wins today he'll play in the first turn tomorrow :rolleyes:

jazz_girl
08-10-2005, 02:22 PM
According to Olé, David and Mariano will be also playing doubles in Cincinnatti and in the US Open.

gooner88
08-10-2005, 03:19 PM
According to Olé, David and Mariano will be also playing doubles in Cincinnatti and in the US Open.

Am I the only fan worried by this?
It's good for Nalbo to be playing doubles as part of his DC preparation, but too much doubles might get in the way of his singles play.

frula08
08-10-2005, 03:29 PM
there is tv coveragein court5?, unfortunately i think there is not.

*Ljubica*
08-10-2005, 04:39 PM
Am I the only fan worried by this?
It's good for Nalbo to be playing doubles as part of his DC preparation,
but too much doubles might get in the way of his singles play.

No you're not gooner - and it all goes back to my favourite subject that everyone here must be bored with by now - his damned ridiculous obsession with DC :devil: I admit that I think playing doubles is a good idea in some tournaments and I've posted that here often myself - it gives you match practice, match fitness and sharpness, and can be a fun and relaxing way to "practice" It also sharpens up your volleys and net play and I know I said here quite recently that he practiced every day with his coach or other players anyway - so why not play doubles in some tournaments? However - the operative word here is "some" - not all - playing in Canada and maybe Beijing would have been fine - playing in Cinci and the US Open as well seems totally irresponsible and means he's thinklng about DC to the detriment of everything else. And you all know how wrong I think this is, which is why I haven't been here much lately because I feel I stand alone in my views (aside from probably Kiank) and I'm bored witbh arguing the point.

Kiank
08-10-2005, 06:28 PM
Am I the only fan worried by this?
It's good for Nalbo to be playing doubles as part of his DC preparation, but too much doubles might get in the way of his singles play.
Gooner, do you read my posts sometimes?

Kiank
08-10-2005, 06:38 PM
No you're not gooner - and it all goes back to my favourite subject that everyone here must be bored with by now - his damned ridiculous obsession with DC :devil: I admit that I think playing doubles is a good idea in some tournaments and I've posted that here often myself - it gives you match practice, match fitness and sharpness, and can be a fun and relaxing way to "practice" It also sharpens up your volleys and net play and I know I said here quite recently that he practiced every day with his coach or other players anyway - so why not play doubles in some tournaments? However - the operative word here is "some" - not all - playing in Canada and maybe Beijing would have been fine - playing in Cinci and the US Open as well seems totally irresponsible and means he's thinklng about DC to the detriment of everything else. And you all know how wrong I think this is, which is why I haven't been here much lately because I feel I stand alone in my views (aside from probably Kiank) and I'm bored witbh arguing the point.
Yes, Rosie, I definetely agree with every single word of your post. As a player myself I personally hate doubles so much, but I agree it can be fun and relaxing way of sharpening some skills - but again - playing both in singles and doubles in TMS and especially in the US Open would be a ridiculous decision.

gooner88
08-10-2005, 07:33 PM
I might not agree with Nalbo decision to play more doubles at important tourneys, but it's his career and I'll support him either way.
I just hope it doesn't adversely affect his singles play, which is way more important than his doubles.

P.S: Kiank I do read your posts. ;)

gooner88
08-10-2005, 08:29 PM
The doubles match just finished on Court 5. Man that was a long match, going to 7-6 in the third.
Before Nalbo it's Hrbaty vs Novak. That match has 3 long sets written all over it.

Kiank
08-10-2005, 08:31 PM
I might not agree with Nalbo decision to play more doubles at important tourneys, but it's his career and I'll support him either way.
I just hope it doesn't adversely affect his singles play, which is way more important than his doubles.

P.S: Kiank I do read your posts. ;)

It's nice to feel an anti-doubles coalition shaping up in this forum. :) As for supporting Nalbo, I hope everyone here will support him no matter what he plays, singles or doubles.

jazz_girl
08-10-2005, 08:50 PM
Just a favour I want to ask you:
If it's possible, can we leave the negativity aside for just a while? I stopped reading this forum and the GM as well because it was bringing me down. And I'm feeling like crap now, especially after reading Willy's threads in the GM. So, can we at least cheer David and be optimistic for a while? He hasn't lost yet, and he seems in good shape, so let's be cool about his decisions. After all, it's his career and he should know better.

frula08
08-10-2005, 09:03 PM
i like the idea of david playing doubles, i think he wont have any problems on his singles schedule, playing doubles doesnt take a lot of your body, i think that he wont be tired for playing doubles.

sigmagirl91
08-10-2005, 09:07 PM
The doubles match just finished on Court 5. Man that was a long match, going to 7-6 in the third.
Before Nalbo it's Hrbaty vs Novak. That match has 3 long sets written all over it.

And right now, we're in a rain delay.

frula08
08-10-2005, 09:18 PM
all i want is him to play his match today, i hope he could do that, it wouldnt be good to play 2 singles matches on the same day.

Kyla
08-10-2005, 09:25 PM
Hrmpf, just came online to check on Nalby and it's raining :( Think I'll be back in two or three hours if I'm still awake...

gooner88
08-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Bloody rain delay. :mad:
Davydenko will face the winner of Nalbo-Beck.

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 12:27 AM
David's about to start playing against Beck in court 10. Finally!

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 12:31 AM
raining again :mad: :mad: :mad:

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 12:38 AM
rain has stopped, so I guess David will start playing any moment now. The bad news is that it won't be on tv so I'll have to follow him through the LS :mad:

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 12:52 AM
Beck's gonna start serving

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 12:59 AM
0-0*
15-0
15-15
fault
30-15
40-15
*0-1

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 01:03 AM
0-15
15-15
30-15
40-15
1-1*

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:05 AM
It's 1-all on serve, and David has a slight opening, 15-30 Beck serving.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:06 AM
30-all. Come on, David.
Beck can't get a first serve in.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:06 AM
Beck has game point. Come on, David, get it to deuce.

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 01:07 AM
15-0
15-15
15-30
30-30
40-30
*1-2

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:07 AM
Beck is crap serving so far. Beck holds
*1-2

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:08 AM
Come on, David...hold serve.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:08 AM
David to serve.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:10 AM
15-0
30-0
40-0 :eek:
I don't see where David has made any faults yet. Oh..so now he does it.
2-2*
Come on, David...break.

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 01:10 AM
15-0
30-0
40-0
2-2*
Looks like he's serving well...

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:11 AM
Beck serving
15-0

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:13 AM
15-15...come on, David.
30-15...draw even, David.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:13 AM
30-all. Come on, David, you can do it. Get to bp. Beck's having trouble on serve.
BP David. Convert, David.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:14 AM
Deuce...damn. Get the AD.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:14 AM
AD David. Come on, convert here.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:16 AM
Deuce...
AD Beck. Take it back to deuce.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:17 AM
David, pounce on this second serve!!!
Deuce...get the AD again.
AD Beck-again. Take him back to deuce.
Beck holds. Come on, David.
*2-3

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 01:17 AM
fault
15-0
fault
15-15
fault
30-15
fault
30-30
fault
30-40
deuce
fault
ad David
deuce
fault
ad Beck
fault
deuce
ad Beck
*2-3

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:18 AM
David to serve.

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 01:21 AM
fault
0-15
15-15
30-15
40-15
fault
3-3*

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:21 AM
David serving
fault
0-15...damn it....please don't start this.
15-15...more like it.
Come on, David....serve like you mean it.
30-15 :D
40-15 :D :D
3-3*

Try for the break, David.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:22 AM
And no df's...I think I'll die.

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:25 AM
Beck serving....
15-0
30-0
30-15....knew Beck would give one away. Come on, David.
fault
30-all...get a bp, David...pleeeeeeeeeease....
Is Beck serving worse than David?
OK...just telling from the number of faults Beck's had, David will win this next point.
Oh, well....40-30 game point
OK, David...get it to deuce
Beck holds
*3-4

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 01:25 AM
15-0
30-0 ace
fault
30-15
fault
30-30
fault
40-30
fault
*3-4

jazz_girl
08-11-2005, 01:31 AM
0-15
fault
0-30 DF
15-30
fault
15-40 :rolleyes:
30-40
40-40
fault
ad David
fault
4-4*
Thank God!!!

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:31 AM
David serving
0-15...grrr...damn it.
Come on, David...get back in it.
fault...
0-30 WTF? Come on, David....a df....
15-30....draw even, buddy.
fault
Awww...15-40 double bp for Beck...come on, David....pleeeease.....
Come ooooonnnnn.....
30-40...get to deuce....
GET YOUR SERVE IN!!!
Yesss...deuce.....good saves.
Now, get the AD
fault
:D AD David.
Please hold.
fault
David holds
4-4*
Please break!!! You almost gave me a damn heart attack....

sigmagirl91
08-11-2005, 01:35 AM
Beck serving
0-15...c'mon David.
0-30 :D Keep going, David.
Get to gp....pleeeease.....
15-30...get to bp....pleeeeease.....
30-30...come on, David....get to bp!!!
Show 'em whatcha made of!!!
Beck is actually getting a first serve in....
40-30...damn it, David...now take it to deuce....