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its.like.that
07-27-2005, 05:17 PM
any other swimming fans on here?

I've been really impressed by a few of the young american girls, and even one of the aussies so far.

+alonso
07-27-2005, 05:21 PM
i like a chilean swimmer named kristel kobrich :bounce: but isn't very popular :ras: :D

tinuviel_estel
07-27-2005, 05:26 PM
:wavey: i'm a swimming enthusiasts
i like Alexander Popov, Pieter van den Hoogenband, all tha aussies, some of the U.S. swimmers, and Roland Shoeman :)

Purple Rainbow
07-27-2005, 06:28 PM
The absence of Thorpe and Van den Hoogenband devaluated the tournament, imho. Yet, I've seen quite a few spectacular races! That South African Shoeman, boy can he swim FAST! :yeah:

+alonso
07-27-2005, 07:57 PM
thorpe said somethin about 8 medals in the past olympics right :confused:

tinuviel_estel
07-27-2005, 08:13 PM
:wavey: Thorpe has won five Olympic gold medals :) and loads of other medals at swimming events

+alonso
07-27-2005, 08:14 PM
:angel: yeah! i heard he promised something and he couldnt do it

tinuviel_estel
07-27-2005, 08:23 PM
:angel: yeah! i heard he promised something and he couldnt do it
i didn't know he promised something like that :confused: but i know Phelps said he'll get 7 gold medals or something not really sure :confused:

Suzi
07-27-2005, 11:19 PM
I like swimming and also diving

i agree having not have thorpe and hoogenband there i think its kinda a bit dissapointing but still there are loads of other swimmers to look out for

+alonso
07-28-2005, 12:56 AM
oooh phelps ;) thx :yeah:

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:02 AM
:wavey: Thorpe has won five Olympic gold medals :) and loads of other medals at swimming events

Ian Thorpe has only won 3 individual gold medals at 2 Olympics (400 free - 2000, 200 + 400 free - 2004).

to put this into perspective, Yana Klochkova has won 4 individual gold medals in 2 Olympics (the 200 + 400 Individual Medley double at both Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004 Olympics). But because she was born and raised, and trains in a non-Western country, she receives hardly any recognition, when in fact, she is the best IM'er the World has ever seen - mens or womens.

http://www.fina.org/bio_Klochkova.html

Inge de Bruijn has also won 4 individual gold medals at 2 Olympic Games - Sydney 2000: 50 free, 100 free, 100 fly, Athens 2004 - 50 free.

http://www.fina.org/bio_deBruin.html

Yet all anyone ever hears about, is Ian Thorpe this, Ian Thorpe that. He is a good swimmer, a great swimmer, but in terms of achievements, he is not the best around, yet.

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:05 AM
:wavey: i'm a swimming enthusiasts
i like Alexander Popov, Pieter van den Hoogenband, all tha aussies, some of the U.S. swimmers, and Roland Shoeman :)

Popov is a great guy, I was lucky enough to train with him regularlay here in Canberra, before he and his coach made the move to Switzerland.

A true legend. The way he upset Biondi and Spitz in Barcelona in the 50 and 100 free - 2 great swims, if you haven't seen them, go watch them on video.
The 1996 Atlanta swims were pretty good too, although he was already King by then.

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:07 AM
The absence of Thorpe and Van den Hoogenband devaluated the tournament, imho. Yet, I've seen quite a few spectacular races! That South African Shoeman, boy can he swim FAST! :yeah:

it's a shame that many of the elite swimmers only contest the Olympics with any vigour, although it also makes the Olympics that more valuable each time they come around.

HappyAndie
07-28-2005, 02:09 AM
I really really enjoyed watching swimming in the Olympics. But, I can never find it on TV. It depresses me. It was actually exciting, and Phelps was on it ;)

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:13 AM
thorpe said somethin about 8 medals in the past olympics right :confused:

correct, Thorpey has 8 Olympic medals:

2000 - 1st 400m free (3:40.59, WR), 2nd 200m free (1:45.83), 1st 4x100m free relay (3:13.67, WR), 1st 4x200m free relay (7:07.05, WR)

2004 - 1st 200m free (1:44.71), 1st 400m free (3:43.10), 3rd 100m free (48.56), 2nd 4x200m free relay (7:07.46), 6th 4x100m free relay (3:15.77)


lets compare Thorpe to Phelps:

2004 - 1st 100m butterfly (51.25), 1st 200m butterfly (1:54.04), 1st 200m Ind. medley (1:57.14), 1st 400m Ind. medley (4:08.26), 3rd 200m free (1:45.32), 1st 4x200m free relay (7:07.33), 3rd 4x100m free relay (3:14.62)

5 gold (4 individual), 2 bronze (1 individual).


In terms of medals, one would assume that over the course of his career, Phelps will easily out-tally Thorpe. This is due to Phelps versatility, although who knows how long he will be able to maintain his incredible fitness levels across all strokes.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 02:15 AM
Popov is a great guy, I was lucky enough to train with him regularlay here in Canberra, before he and his coach made the move to Switzerland.

A true legend. The way he upset Biondi and Spitz in Barcelona in the 50 and 100 free - 2 great swims, if you haven't seen them, go watch them on video.
The 1996 Atlanta swims were pretty good too, although he was already King by then.
OMG! :eek: you trained with him :) i am so in-love with him :hearts: i even cried when he didn't win in Athens :sad: :sad: i first saw him in Barcelona and been hooked to him ever since :) he is the reason why i love swimming.

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:17 AM
i didn't know he promised something like that :confused: but i know Phelps said he'll get 7 gold medals or something not really sure :confused:
this is correct, he wished to match Mark Spitz's record

he won 5 gold and 2 bronze

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 02:18 AM
Phelps has incredible stamina that's for sure :)

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:19 AM
OMG! :eek: you trained with him :) i am so in-love with him :hearts: i even cried when he didn't win in Athens :sad: :sad: i first saw him in Barcelona and been hooked to him ever since :) he is the reason why i love swimming.
I'm not sure if you have heard of it, the AIS (Australian Institute of Sport). Well, it is based in Canberra, where I live - and although I have never been on scholarship there, the coaches know me and I'm invited to train there from time to time.

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:20 AM
The AIS also has a tennis program, some of its former members include - Jelena Dokic, Chris Guccione, Peter Luczak, Todd Reid...

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:24 AM
OMG! :eek: you trained with him :) i am so in-love with him :hearts: i even cried when he didn't win in Athens :sad: :sad: i first saw him in Barcelona and been hooked to him ever since :) he is the reason why i love swimming.
I wanted him to win the double crown in Sydney 2000 - 50 and 100 free, because he won the double at both Barcelona and Atlanta.

He didn't swim well in Sydney, 1 bronze medal I think is all he won, but then at the Barcelona World Champs a few years ago, Alex did it again, winning the 50 and 100 free from Hoogie.

I thought he could do it, but :sad: - it actually hurt watching him swim in Athens.

He has at least 1 child, maybe 2 by now, and he will take up a coaching role somewhere in swimming, I am sure - so he has plenty to keep him busy in his after life :).

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:26 AM
I like swimming and also diving

i agree having not have thorpe and hoogenband there i think its kinda a bit dissapointing but still there are loads of other swimmers to look out for
its a shame swimming doesnt have a very high profile.

I mean, if Roddick and Agassi pulled out of a tennis tournament, people would still pay attention to it, no? :p

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 02:28 AM
I wanted him to win the double crown in Sydney 2000 - 50 and 100 free, because he won the double at both Barcelona and Atlanta.

He didn't swim well in Sydney, 1 bronze medal I think is all he won, but then at the Barcelona World Champs a few years ago, Alex did it again, winning the 50 and 100 free from Hoogie.

I thought he could do it, but :sad: - it actually hurt watching him swim in Athens.

He has at least 1 child, maybe 2 by now, and he will take up a coaching role somewhere in swimming, I am sure - so he has plenty to keep him busy in his after life :).
i'm glad you liked him too. he has 2 kids now :) you are very lucky to have trained with all that star swimmers :worship: do you swim 50m or 100, 400, etc.?

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:30 AM
OMG! :eek: you trained with him :) i am so in-love with him :hearts: i even cried when he didn't win in Athens :sad: :sad: i first saw him in Barcelona and been hooked to him ever since :) he is the reason why i love swimming.

I love Alex too... I even have a pair of his old racing swimmers :p.

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:31 AM
i'm glad you liked him too. he has 2 kids now :) you are very luck to have trained with all that star swimmers :worship: do you swim 50m or 100, 400, etc.?
my best events are 50 and 100m free, 100m backstroke, and 100m fly.

unfortunately, when I trained with Popov, I was probably a little too young to realise just how great he actually was :sad:.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 02:33 AM
I love Alex too... I even have a pair of his old racing swimmers :p.

:smash: ohh... that is so cool! where exactly do you live? i'll stop by when your not around your house :devil: BTW, he won silver at 100m swim in Sydney

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 02:36 AM
my best events are 50 and 100m free, 100m backstroke, and 100m fly.

unfortunately, when I trained with Popov, I was probably a little too young to realise just how great he actually was :sad:.
i heard he is very disciplined and his coach is really one of the best in the world :) what is your best time at those events?

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:41 AM
:smash: ohh... that is so cool! where exactly do you live? i'll stop by when your not around your house :devil: BTW, he won silver at 100m swim in Sydney

did he? I dont remember. I just remember Hoogie's incredible swim - first man under 48 seconds. When Popov got the world record down to 48.1, I remember swimming experts saying it would be decades before this record could be broken. Popov, with his size and his technique - he was touted as the pinnacle of sprint freestyle... saying that it would take a lot of time, and probably an ever bigger man than Popov to go that fast again.

but it took only a few years, for a shorter man to come along, and throw all their theories out the window :sad:.

but even today, many top coaches around here still regard popov's technique as the best we've ever seen.

I think I remember him getting bronze in the 50m in Sydney, didnt he?


I live in Canberra of course, near the lake, and about 10 mins walk from the city :p... :lol:

planning on coming to australia anytime soon?

there are not ATP tourneys in Canberra, but there is 1 WTA tourney just before the Australian Open... Ana Ivanovic won it this year :eek: :D.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 02:47 AM
did he? I dont remember. I just remember Hoogie's incredible swim - first man under 48 seconds. When Popov got the world record down to 48.1, I remember swimming experts saying it would be decades before this record could be broken. Popov, with his size and his technique - he was touted as the pinnacle of sprint freestyle... saying that it would take a lot of time, and probably an ever bigger man than Popov to go that fast again.

but it took only a few years, for a shorter man to come along, and throw all their theories out the window :sad:.

but even today, many top coaches around here still regard popov's technique as the best we've ever seen.

I think I remember him getting bronze in the 50m in Sydney, didnt he?


I live in Canberra of course, near the lake, and about 10 mins walk from the city.
he placed 6th on the 50m but i'm sure he won silver at 100m yes. they love his swimming tecnique. and about hoogenband i think it was in relay at athens that he swam a 100m in 46 sec. and the dutch i think place 2nd bec. of his outstanding swim :worship: i have it on tape i'll check later:)

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:51 AM
i heard he is very disciplined and his coach is really one of the best in the world :) what is your best time at those events?

Just like Roger, Alex is extremely dedicated to his training. His coach, Gennadi Touretski is an exceptional coach, while being eccentric at the same time. One of the reasons Alex and Gennadi left Australia was because Gennadi was kicked out of the AIS program - Gennadi was not only Alex's coach, Gennadi was under contract to coach Aussie swimmers as well, some of his other swimmers were Sarah Ryan, Matt Dunn, Michael Klim...

anyhow, one time on a flight back from Russia, Gennadi was drunk, and apparently threw a cup of coffee at someone on the plane... then a few months later, his house was robbed, and a safe as stolen from in his wall. Police recovered the safe, and found drugs in it... the AIS didn't want all the negative publicity, so they cut ties with Gennadi :sad:, and because Alex loves Gennadi, Alex had to leave too. They hung around for a while, training on their own, even at my club for a while :D.. but some smart person in Switzerland realised they had a chance to capture a great coach for a relatively cheap price due to his bad publicity.. and so off to Switzerland they went :sad:.


my best long course times: 50m free: 23.39
100m free 51.75
200m free 1:54.19

100m back: 58.21
100m fly: 55.79

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:53 AM
he placed 6th on the 50m but i'm sure he won silver at 100m yes. they love his swimming tecnique. and about hoogenband i think it was in relay at athens that he swam a 100m in 46 sec. and the dutch i think place 2nd bec. of his outstanding swim :worship: i have it on tape i'll check later:)
yer, I think Hoogie may have, but it doesn't count for records or anything, because it was from a flying start.

alelysafina
07-28-2005, 02:56 AM
Pieter van den Hoogenband.. I love his name!! I would marry him just for that reason :D but seriously, I really like Ian thorpe, and Lanny Krazelburg, before he retired...

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 02:58 AM
he placed 6th on the 50m but i'm sure he won silver at 100m yes. they love his swimming tecnique. and about hoogenband i think it was in relay at athens that he swam a 100m in 46 sec. and the dutch i think place 2nd bec. of his outstanding swim :worship: i have it on tape i'll check later:)

oh ok, maybe it was Hoogie who got bronze in the 50m, coz I remember it was a swimmer I liked - dont forget there was no silver in this one, Ervin and Gary Hall dead heating for the Gold :D.

Gary Hall is also a champion, my favourite of the American bunch.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 02:59 AM
Just like Roger, Alex is extremely dedicated to his training. His coach, Gennadi Touretski is an exceptional coach, while being eccentric at the same time. One of the reasons Alex and Gennadi left Australia was because Gennadi was kicked out of the AIS program - Gennadi was not only Alex's coach, Gennadi was under contract to coach Aussie swimmers as well, some of his other swimmers were Sarah Ryan, Matt Dunn, Michael Klim...

anyhow, one time on a flight back from Russia, Gennadi was drunk, and apparently threw a cup of coffee at someone on the plane... then a few months later, his house was robbed, and a safe as stolen from in his wall. Police recovered the safe, and found drugs in it... the AIS didn't want all the negative publicity, so they cut ties with Gennadi :sad:, and because Alex loves Gennadi, Alex had to leave too. They hung around for a while, training on their own, even at my club for a while :D.. but some smart person in Switzerland realised they had a chance to capture a great coach for a relatively cheap price due to his bad publicity.. and so off to Switzerland they went :sad:.


my best long course times: 50m free: 23.39
100m free 51.75
200m free 1:54.19

100m back: 58.21
100m fly: 55.79
i know about that drug thing :( but i don't think popov tried drugs to boost his performance :) you're time is very good!!! i don't know about the 100mback and 100m fly but, it looks fast though :) i only like freestyle and relays :) how old are you? do you ever plan on joining the aussie team?

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:01 AM
Pieter van den Hoogenband.. I love his name!! I would marry him just for that reason :D but seriously, I really like Ian thorpe, and Lanny Krazelburg, before he retired...

Lenny was another one of my favourites. I wished I could have met him. My former swim coach, who is now one of the Canadian team coaches, was manager for the Australian swim team at the Sydney Olympics, and she has known Lenny for a while, and she said that Lenny is one of the nicest guys she knows.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:01 AM
oh ok, maybe it was Hoogie who got bronze in the 50m, coz I remember it was a swimmer I liked - dont forget there was no silver in this one, Ervin and Gary Hall dead heating for the Gold :D.

Gary Hall is also a champion, my favourite of the American bunch.
yeah! i think it was hoogenband who won the bronze :) i personally don't like hall before :mad: bec. his got issues w/ popov but, i'm ok with him now :)

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:02 AM
Lenny was another one of my favourites. I wished I could have met him. My former swim coach, who is now one of the Canadian team coaches, was manager for the Australian swim team at the Sydney Olympics, and she has known Lenny for a while, and she said that Lenny is one of the nicest guys she knows.
yeah! i like him too. he looks so nice and humble :)

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:09 AM
i know about that drug thing :( but i don't think popov tried drugs to boost his performance :) you're time is very good!!! i don't know about the 100mback and 100m fly but, it looks fast though :) i only like freestyle and relays :) how old are you? do you ever plan on joining the aussie team?

thanks :)

i dont think Alex was a drug cheat either, i do remember hearing a reason as to why he had the drugs, but I cant remember :scratch:.

freestyle is my favourite, and it is the 1 stroke that all swimmers use in training, no matter what their favourite stroke, it is the backbone of swimming training.

one day i hope i could make the team, but at the moment im not fast enough :sad:.

although I am thinking about taking up a scholarship offer to go swim in the US. :)

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:14 AM
yeah! i think it was hoogenband who won the bronze :) i personally don't like hall before :mad: bec. his got issues w/ popov but, i'm ok with him now :)

Popov is cool and classy like Federer.

Hall is more brash like Roddick, although I would say he is classier, smarter, and more of a role model than Roddick.

Hoogie is kind of like Andre, just a guy who everyone loves.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:17 AM
thanks :)

i dont think Alex was a drug cheat either, i do remember hearing a reason as to why he had the drugs, but I cant remember :scratch:.

freestyle is my favourite, and it is the 1 stroke that all swimmers use in training, no matter what their favourite stroke, it is the backbone of swimming training.

one day i hope i could make the team, but at the moment im not fast enough :sad:.

although I am thinking about taking up a scholarship offer to go swim in the US. :)
that's great! you should grab the opportunity :) who knows maybe you'll beat popov's 21.64 sec. in 50m :)

alelysafina
07-28-2005, 03:19 AM
thanks :)

i dont think Alex was a drug cheat either, i do remember hearing a reason as to why he had the drugs, but I cant remember :scratch:.

freestyle is my favourite, and it is the 1 stroke that all swimmers use in training, no matter what their favourite stroke, it is the backbone of swimming training.

one day i hope i could make the team, but at the moment im not fast enough :sad:.

although I am thinking about taking up a scholarship offer to go swim in the US. :)
You should do it! there are a lot of great facilities in the US.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:22 AM
You should do it! there are a lot of great facilities in the US.
hiyie! do you have any favourite swimmer? :)

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:23 AM
that's great! you should grab the opportunity :) who knows maybe you'll beat popov's 21.64 sec. in 50m :)

lol.. that would be nice. the funny thing about that swim, is that it was done in a time trial. Gary Hall always refuses to recognise it, because I think he has the fastest time in a proper race :lol:.

Gary is a great campaigner for diabetes sufferers, and sick children in the US.

He is also trying to help promote swimming, in hope that it could one day be a professional sport with the money to support all of its top athletes - like tennis.

I have a lot of respect for Gary.

if you wish to read more about him, go here: http://theraceclub.net/

alelysafina
07-28-2005, 03:26 AM
hiyie! do you have any favourite swimmer? :)
Hey, yeah I do!


Pieter van den Hoogenband.. I love his name!! I would marry him just for that reason but seriously, I really like Ian thorpe, and Lanny Krazelburg, before he retired...

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:27 AM
You should do it! there are a lot of great facilities in the US.
friends of mine in recent years have gone to Syracuse, Connecticut?, and i think Northridge? or something like that...

i dont really know too much about any of these universities :shrug:.

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:30 AM
friends of mine in recent years have gone to Syracuse, Connecticut?, and i think Northridge? or something like that...

i dont really know too much about any of these universities :shrug:.
oh, and 1 lucky girl even got to go to the University of Hawaii :eek::eek:

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:31 AM
lol.. that would be nice. the funny thing about that swim, is that it was done in a time trial. Gary Hall always refuses to recognise it, because I think he has the fastest time in a proper race :lol:.

Gary is a great campaigner for diabetes sufferers, and sick children in the US.

He is also trying to help promote swimming, in hope that it could one day be a professional sport with the money to support all of its top athletes - like tennis.

I have a lot of respect for Gary.

if you wish to read more about him, go here: http://theraceclub.net/
that's why i don'y hate him now :) i know about his cause and i think that is very noble of him :) i have high respect for him now :)

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:32 AM
Hey, yeah I do!
great swimmers! hoogenband is awesome :worship:

alelysafina
07-28-2005, 03:34 AM
friends of mine in recent years have gone to Syracuse, Connecticut?, and i think Northridge? or something like that...

i dont really know too much about any of these universities :shrug:.

I've heard of all of them, but I dont know too much about them, except that Northridge is in California, but its near the San Andreas Fault, so theres a lot of earthquake activity there, but you should really check out their sites...

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:34 AM
that's why i don'y hate him now :) i know about his cause and i think that is very noble of him :) i have high respect for him now :)
as far as I know, from the emails he sends me (on his mailing list, not personal emails :sad: ), I think he is aiming at a 50m three-peat in Beijing. If he pulls that off, he will go down as a true legend.

alelysafina
07-28-2005, 03:35 AM
great swimmers! hoogenband is awesome :worship:

:yeah:

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:37 AM
I've heard of all of them, but I dont know too much about them, except that Northridge is in California, but its near the San Andreas Fault, so theres a lot of earthquake activity there, but you should really check out their sites...
yer, i've been to a couple of their sites, but i always end up checking out their basketball, football teams etc. :lol:

alelysafina
07-28-2005, 03:40 AM
yer, i've been to a couple of their sites, but i always end up checking out their basketball, football teams etc. :lol:

:lol: syracuse is really good...

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:40 AM
as far as I know, from the emails he sends me (on his mailing list, not personal emails :sad:), I think he is aiming at a 50m three-peat in Beijing. If he pulls that off, he will go down as a true legend.
and that will stop the popov/hall rival :) i don't want him to win but if he does win then congrats to him :)

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:42 AM
i think he will one that one! hoogenband and thorpe is not that fast at 50m maybe his only rival will be the one who placed 2nd at athens at 50m and maybe shoeman

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 03:49 AM
and that will stop the popov/hall rival :) i don't want him to win but if he does win then congrats to him :)
that would be the downside of him winning - it would perhaps elevate him above Alex in swimming history :sad:... and I dont think that is deserved. Alex was on top from 1992-1999 I think, whereas Gary Hall has a lot more time off in between Olympics, and doesnt race very often.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:55 AM
that would be the downside of him winning - it would perhaps elevate him above Alex in swimming history :sad:... and I dont think that is deserved. Alex was on top from 1992-1999 I think, whereas Gary Hall has a lot more time off in between Olympics, and doesnt race very often.
i hope he gets a chance to swim in relays though instead of someone else taking his place

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 04:01 AM
i hope he gets a chance to swim in relays though instead of someone else taking his place
yer :)

or better still, Alex will get bored of his afterlife, and make a comeback :D

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 04:04 AM
yer :)

or better still, Alex will get bored of his afterlife, and make a comeback :D
wish so! but he'll have tough competition i mean he's not young anymore :( but he still beats the time of some of the younger competitors in Athens :lol::lol:

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 04:06 AM
wish so! but he'll have tough competition i mean he's not young anymore :( but he still beats the time of some of the younger competitors in Athens :lol::lol:
did you see the swimming just a few hours ago?

Mark Warnecke - 35 year old German, won the 50m breastroke. :cool:

Alex is 5 times the calibre of Mark :p.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 04:08 AM
did you see the swimming just a few hours ago?

Mark Warnecke - 35 year old German, won the 50m breastroke. :cool:

Alex is 5 times the calibre of Mark :p.
ohh... really!!! hmmm.... ;) good for him :worship:
although with popov :) there are alot of fast swimmer in freestyle :(

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 04:12 AM
ohh... really!!! hmmm.... ;) good for him :worship:
although with popov :) there are alot of fast swimmer in freestyle :(

i know, sprint freestyle is probably the toughest area in mens swimming.

my coach is always trying to get me (and other swimmers) to train for tougher events: 200m fly, 1500m free, 400 IM - because these events arent very popular, and its much easier to make the National team in these events.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 04:17 AM
i know, sprint freestyle is probably the toughest area in mens swimming.

my coach is always trying to get me (and other swimmers) to train for tougher events: 200m fly, 1500m free, 400 IM - because these events arent very popular, and its much easier to make the National team in these events.
i have big respect to players who are very good at 50m and 1500m co'z at 50m you have to be really good and fast to finish first and at 1500m you have to have the stamina of a super hero just to finish the race :lol: and Grant Hackett is just unbelievable :worship:

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 04:26 AM
i don't know if you saw the news already but hackett just broke thorpe's world record
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050728/sp_nm/swimming_world_dc_9

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 04:27 AM
i have big respect to players who are very good at 50m and 1500m co'z at 50m you have to be really good and fast to finish first and at 1500m you have to have the stamina of a super hero just to finish the race :lol: and Grant Hackett is just unbelievable :worship:

when i was younger, my 2 biggest heros were probably stefan edberg and kieren perkins. I never thought that Hackett would eclipse Kieren :sad:, but it was made evident that FINA wanted all the old world records beaten and times (in general) to come down when they legalised those stupid swim suits.

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 04:31 AM
that said, Hackett is amazing. He took Kierens record, but it was his swim in Athens last year, with the punctured lung that made me start to respect him a lot more.

This morning he probably pulled out another one of his best swims ever, beating Thorpes record. He knew he wouldnt be able to match thorpes time for the back half of the race, so he went out hard, and just held on :).

amazing swim

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 04:32 AM
when i was younger, my 2 biggest heros were probably stefan edberg and kieren perkins. I never thought that Hackett would eclipse Kieren :sad:, but it was made evident that FINA wanted all the old world records beaten and times (in general) to come down when they legalised those stupid swim suits.
awww... the swim suit :( i honestly don't like them :confused: for me they are too scientifically engineered that i kinda felt like they are cheating already :sad: and some players don't wear them and some do so i don't know :confused:

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 04:34 AM
i don't know if you saw the news already but hackett just broke thorpe's world record
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050728/sp_nm/swimming_world_dc_9
yep, great swim :worship:

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 04:38 AM
awww... the swim suit :( i honestly don't like them :confused: for me they are too scientifically engineered that i kinda felt like they are cheating already :sad: and some players don't wear them and some do so i don't know :confused:
well, its all a comfort thing.

some breastrokers dont wear them, because they are too tight around the thighs, so you cant kick properly.

some freestylers and butterflyers dont like them on their chest either, and just wear the legs.

backstrokers - most just wear legs.

but its all a matter of preference

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 04:42 AM
well, its all a comfort thing.

some breastrokers dont wear them, because they are too tight around the thighs, so you cant kick properly.

some freestylers and butterflyers dont like them on their chest either, and just wear the legs.

backstrokers - most just wear legs.

but its all a matter of preference
but they do help the swimmer a bit right?

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 05:06 AM
but they do help the swimmer a bit right?
yer, they do provide a considerable streamline advantage through the water.

there were some figures reported when they first came out about how much they would lower swimmers times over each racing distance.

which in a sport where every hundredth counts, they make a considerable difference.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 05:14 AM
do you wear them?

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 05:25 AM
do you wear them?
i only wear them in my most important races...

and not a full suit, either full legs or shorts.

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 05:28 AM
i only wear them in my most important races...

and not a full suit, either full legs or shorts.
that is fine :) but the full suit is too much for me :o
i have to go now! it's nice chatting w/ you! :hug::hug: great thread for the swimming fans! good night! :wavey:

its.like.that
07-28-2005, 05:37 AM
that is fine :) but the full suit is too much for me :o
i have to go now! it's nice chatting w/ you! :hug::hug: great thread for the swimming fans! good night! :wavey:
nice to meet you :)

bye :wavey:

bad gambler
07-28-2005, 09:54 AM
fact remains though hackett will always be in Thorpedo's shadow - that 800m swim was definitely great, but imagine what time thorpey could have swum it in if he focused on it as well?

:eek:

SuperFurryAnimal
07-28-2005, 10:12 AM
I miss Pieter van den Hoogenband and Inge de Bruijn, though I doubt if the latter would have won anything if she had competed. She more occupied with modelling, presenting and more of that stuff. :rolleyes:

Peta Pan
07-28-2005, 10:15 AM
I love watching swimming too. My favourite ever is also Alex Popov :yeah: I also was a big fan of Matthew Dunn especially during the 1994 Commonwealth Games (because I thought he was hot :o )

Now my favourite swimmer is Michael Phelps... although during the Olympics I still had to cheer for Thorpe and Hackett against him because I wanted Aussie Gold! I love the Australian girls like Brooke Hanson, Libby Lenton, Jodie Henry and our new hero Jess Schipper (well done Jessicah!!).

I loved watching Susie O'Neill and Petria Thomas and was sad when they both retired!

Ohh and I also love Matt Welsh and although I loved Lenny Krayzelburg, it always frustrated me that he had Matt's measure!

ozfan44
07-28-2005, 01:45 PM
I hate Phelps :mad:

Go Hackett and the rest of the aussies!

I miss Alex Popov he used to train in oz and was so cool!

Suzi
07-28-2005, 02:11 PM
My tv wouldnt work yesterday so i missed out what happened :bigcry:

p.s. i dont really like Phelps either but hes a bloddy good swimmer though :)

bad gambler
07-28-2005, 02:36 PM
Gary H jnr is going to be considered a tainted swimmer, but i respect him for being able to cope with his diabetes.

He is also one of the very few swimmers who is a real showman which is refreshing from the morbidity us australians are exposed to such as thorpe

jcman
07-28-2005, 03:04 PM
My fav swimmer is Popov, Phelps, Klochkova, coughlin, van Almsick.

And my fav diver is Alex Despatie....he's too hot and cute~

SuperFurryAnimal
07-28-2005, 03:10 PM
Good luck to Kosuke Kitajima! :worship:

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2004/08/18/inside-kitajima.jpg

tinuviel_estel
07-28-2005, 03:24 PM
Good luck to Kosuke Kitajima! :worship:

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2004/08/18/inside-kitajima.jpg
i don't know if Kitajima is the guy but there is the rumor that a japanese guy cheated in athens. he used the dolphin kick in one of his swim :confused: but i still like him :) he is a very good swimmer although i don't see him much since my fave is freestyle.

Peta Pan
07-28-2005, 04:10 PM
And my fav diver is Alex Despatie....he's too hot and cute~
:hearts: He is indeed a very nice looking young man

Purple Rainbow
07-28-2005, 05:02 PM
Gary H jnr is going to be considered a tainted swimmer, but i respect him for being able to cope with his diabetes.

He is also one of the very few swimmers who is a real showman which is refreshing from the morbidity us australians are exposed to such as thorpe

Watching Gary Hall jr always made me feel very nauseous. Just look at the dude, this is what I call overdoing it... :rolleyes:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040821/images/2004-08-21garyhall.jpg

Aleksa's Laydee
07-28-2005, 05:24 PM
:hearts: He is indeed a very nice looking young man

Alexander is gorgeous...my fav diver by far :hearts:

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 07:29 AM
fact remains though hackett will always be in Thorpedo's shadow - that 800m swim was definitely great, but imagine what time thorpey could have swum it in if he focused on it as well?

:eek:

I have no doubt that when fully fit, if Hackett can put up a good race, Thorpey will sit off him, then just gun him down in the last 200m, the same way he did when he set the world record.

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 08:25 AM
I love watching swimming too. My favourite ever is also Alex Popov :yeah: I also was a big fan of Matthew Dunn especially during the 1994 Commonwealth Games (because I thought he was hot :o )

Now my favourite swimmer is Michael Phelps... although during the Olympics I still had to cheer for Thorpe and Hackett against him because I wanted Aussie Gold! I love the Australian girls like Brooke Hanson, Libby Lenton, Jodie Henry and our new hero Jess Schipper (well done Jessicah!!).

I loved watching Susie O'Neill and Petria Thomas and was sad when they both retired!

Ohh and I also love Matt Welsh and although I loved Lenny Krayzelburg, it always frustrated me that he had Matt's measure!

Matt Dunn is without a doubt the nicest bloke to have competed for Australia in recent eras. He was never the most outspoken bloke on the team, he was never as high a profile swimmer as Perkins or O'Neill, but everyone on the team had so much respect for him, and he was probably the most popular swimmer with fellow team members.

I hope he is enjoying the swimming after-life with his lovely Icelandic partner - provided they haven't broken up :).

Not that Perkins, Fydler and co. weren't good blokes in their own right, but Matt Dunn just warmed that extra bit to fans, coaches and fellow swimmers alike. Of course, in every group of people, you will always have your instigators, sleaze bags and try hards.

Scott Miller was also a very popular guy - definitely the Safin of swimming for a period of time there. Friendly bloke, well respected, but never seemed to quite fulfill his potential. He also had a short temper at times, and on several occasions was disciplined for being out at night breaking team curfew. He spent a brief period of time down at the AIS in Canberra, but after several warnings, was kicked out for constantly failing to follow team protocol :lol:. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't quite good enough to be able to write his own rules, the way Thorpe or Hackett would be able to.

Phelps is a phenominal swimmer, but seems like a real tool from what I've heard...

Scott Goodman - another great bloke, who was also short tempered at times - although he blamed this on some sort of illness... never found out the truth about that one.

Petria Thomas - very quiet, but also very pleasant. She was actually at the same swimming club as me for 4 years. Not that she ever came to club functions, but my old coach who managed the Australian team convinved her to join - so that the club would pick up all the points she earns from National Championships. Her boyfriend Gus was a real tool though, dont know what she saw in him.. but good luck to the 2 of them :).

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 08:35 AM
Gary H jnr is going to be considered a tainted swimmer, but i respect him for being able to cope with his diabetes.

He is also one of the very few swimmers who is a real showman which is refreshing from the morbidity us australians are exposed to such as thorpe

Gary Hall is trying to increase the popularity of the sport, so that it can generate the sponsorship required to keep its top level performers in the sport. Anthony Ervin - gold medal winner in the 50m free in Sydney - quit swimming soon after the Olympics because he simply didn't want to go on, dedicating all his time to swimming, and winding up at the age of 30 with no money.

Petria Thomas's situation was very similar to this, although she decided it was worth sticking with the sport - possibly due to its high profile in Australia.

Thorpe is a tool, good swimmer, but a tool.

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 08:50 AM
i don't know if Kitajima is the guy but there is the rumor that a japanese guy cheated in athens. he used the dolphin kick in one of his swim :confused: but i still like him :) he is a very good swimmer although i don't see him much since my fave is freestyle.

I'll let you all in on a little secret, most breastrokers use a dolphin kick in their underwater pullout from a dive or turn.

The rule is, that you are not allowed to kick in a downwards motion with both feet together. But when you dive in/push off the wall, your body is travelling down already, so it is very hard to ajudicate on this rule at the start/turn.

Some breastrokers have a little dolphin kick at the end of their breastroke kick (ie. after their feet come around and meet together) - but as long as this dolphin kick travels upwards, then that is ok.

Jim Piper - an Ausrtalia breastroker, has been DQ'd several times for having a dolphin kick in his breastroke. He has a very suspect kicking motion - although in recent times, they seem to be more leniant on this rule.

Refereeing in swimming is very subjective, especially compared to tennis. But in response to the comment about Kitajima cheating - I shall use a tennis analogy. If a player serves the ball, and it clips the top of the tape by a nanometer, and neither the players nor the umpire notices it, is that still a let? :scratch:

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 08:56 AM
Watching Gary Hall jr always made me feel very nauseous. Just look at the dude, this is what I call overdoing it... :rolleyes:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040821/images/2004-08-21garyhall.jpg


Gary Hall brings so much to swimming... and by making this post, you have proven it yourself.

Is there 1 particular incident you remember about what Thorpe or Phelps did in Athens besides winning?

My 2 most memorable moments were Gary Hall's prizefighter act, and Hackett - barely able to move, standing atop the blocks after winning the 1500m freestyle.

Hall didn't care about the fines he knew he would receive, but he decided to go against the grain, in order to make the event more interesting. Had he not won, he would have looked like a fool, but he stood up - and is a champion for doing so.

I believe people would have been saying similar things about Muhammad Ali back in the 60's - and now look at how revered an athlete that bloke has become.

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 08:57 AM
Alexander is gorgeous...my fav diver by far :hearts:
No one will ever be able to match the great Dimitry Sautin.

SuperFurryAnimal
07-29-2005, 09:05 AM
Good luck to Marleen Veldhuis in the 100 meters freestyle final! :yeah:

http://www.persmuseum.nl/bastiaanheus/images/10.jpg

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 09:10 AM
My fav swimmer is Popov, Phelps, Klochkova, coughlin, van Almsick.

And my fav diver is Alex Despatie....he's too hot and cute~

my favourite swimmers of the modern era: (in no particular order)

mens: Popov, Hoogie, Perkins, Pankratov, Salnikov, Sloudnov, Scotty Miller, Lenny Krayzelburg, Matt Dunn, Franck Esposito...

womens: Yana Klochkova, Kristina Egerszegi, Joanne Malar, Sam Reilly, Susie O'Neill, Haley Lewis, Franciska van Almsick...

bad gambler
07-29-2005, 09:20 AM
womens: Yana Klochkova, ...
I like your taste mate, she is a true superstar and a hottie to boot :hearts:

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 09:26 AM
shit, I only just realised that Magnini went a 48.12 in the 100m free.

I BELIEVE THAT IS THE 2nd FASTEST TIME IN HISTORY.

Only Hoogie's world record of 47.84 has been faster - if I am not mistaken.

also take note of Schoeman's first 50m of 22.42 - don't forget that is with a tumbleturn, instead of a touch - which would of course have made the time quicker.

bad gambler
07-29-2005, 11:28 AM
shit, I only just realised that Magnini went a 48.12 in the 100m free.

I BELIEVE THAT IS THE 2nd FASTEST TIME IN HISTORY.

Only Hoogie's world record of 47.84 has been faster - if I am not mistaken.

also take note of Schoeman's first 50m of 22.42 - don't forget that is with a tumbleturn, instead of a touch - which would of course have made the time quicker.

Klim swan faster I believe in his lead off swim in Australia's gold medal winning 4x100 freestyle relay in Sydney 2000 Olympics. He was credited for the world record as a result.

roisin
07-29-2005, 02:34 PM
is grant hackett in the australian 4x200m relay tonight??

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 02:36 PM
Klim swan faster I believe in his lead off swim in Australia's gold medal winning 4x100 freestyle relay in Sydney 2000 Olympics. He was credited for the world record as a result.
but wasnt that a 48.18?

I remember he had the record for 2-3 days, before the final of the 100m, when Hoogie took it off him.

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 02:37 PM
is grant hackett in the australian 4x200m relay tonight??
no idea sorry... they can change the team up until the beginning of the session... thats still several hours away... but I presume he should be in it :scratch:

~EMiLiTA~
07-29-2005, 02:44 PM
hope Grant is in it...and hope the Aussies win it!!!!! c'mon boys!!

roisin
07-29-2005, 02:49 PM
no idea sorry... they can change the team up until the beginning of the session... thats still several hours away... but I presume he should be in it :scratch:
Wicked, thats great thanks :D

I've just got into the whole swimming thing recently and Grant rocks :rocker2:

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 03:02 PM
Wicked, thats great thanks :D

I've just got into the whole swimming thing recently and Grant rocks :rocker2:
if you havent already seen it, watch his 1500m race from Athens last year, one of the best swims ever.

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 03:04 PM
I like your taste mate, she is a true superstar and a hottie to boot :hearts:
if you're after hot birds - this girl is one of the best

http://www.hanna-maria.com/

she won the womens 100m freestyle at the last world champs in barca.

bad gambler
07-29-2005, 03:15 PM
It will be tough for the Aussies to win 4x200m relay tonight, US firm favourites.

Sad since this was an event Australia owned since 1997 World Championships up to last Olympics

italy_tennis
07-29-2005, 03:19 PM
Thank you Filippo!!!!!

http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/3175/magno2sv.jpg

bad gambler
07-29-2005, 11:10 PM
Jodie wins 100m in 54.18 :cool:

roisin
07-29-2005, 11:22 PM
has Peirsol broken the 200m backstroke??

Suzi
07-29-2005, 11:35 PM
dunno yet! my tv is playing up :(, but im rooting for him :yeah:

bad gambler
07-29-2005, 11:35 PM
yep he broke the WR

its.like.that
07-29-2005, 11:47 PM
Schoeman = banker

its.like.that
07-30-2005, 12:26 AM
hi everyone, please vote for me here

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=47432

thanks :)

bad gambler
07-30-2005, 12:28 AM
what a swim by lethal liesel :worship:

Peta Pan
07-30-2005, 03:22 PM
I slept in yesterday and missed the swimming :bigcry: At last it was weekend and I would have been able to see it live and I slept through it :rolleyes:

Very happy that Jodie won :D Now I'm gonna have to go search the other results as I haven't even seen any news today!!

roisin
07-30-2005, 09:30 PM
Damn America won the mens 4x200 relay. Boo hiss. I was totally rooting for Australia, Hackett nearly caught the Canadians too!

Suzi
07-30-2005, 11:14 PM
:yeah: for Piersol, and for liesel jones to win and break a record thats cool comfortably from what i saw!

Sandra
07-30-2005, 11:26 PM
I miss Ian ,the worldss uck without him...i want ian ian ian....

Sandra
07-30-2005, 11:29 PM
Yaaaaaaaaay :banana:Phelps lost :woohoo:

Suzi
07-30-2005, 11:30 PM
Hiya Sandra, welcome back hun :hug:

well another day another record broken ha denying Phelps a gold medal :devil:

Iheartandy&roger
07-31-2005, 06:28 AM
I am proud of my canadian swimmers they have done quite well! :woohoo: Now now people can't go and have party over someone else's misery and defeat (Phelps) :devil:

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 12:36 PM
Which competitions will take place today? Does someone know? :confused:

roisin
07-31-2005, 01:19 PM
Sunday 31 July:
Heats 0930 (1430 BST)
400m IM M
400m IM W
4x100m Medley M
Finals 1800 (2300 BST)
50m Back M
50m Breast W
400m IM M
50m Free W
1500m Free M (GO GRANT!! :banana: )
400m IM W
4x100m Medley M

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 01:28 PM
4x100m Medley M

So there is a hope I can see Stefan Herbst again... :lick:

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 03:35 PM
should be an interesting day to wrap up this competition...

I wonder just how fast Grant can go.

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 08:43 PM
50m Freestyle final:

Congrats to Roland Mark Schoeman, swimming a 21.69, the 2nd fastest swim of all time, only 0.05 outside the great Popov's record.

**Schoeman now becomes the swimmer with the fastest time in a race in history.

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 08:59 PM
So there is a hope I can see Stefan Herbst again... :lick:

He was part of the team this morning, hopefully they don`t change the team... :D

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 09:11 PM
go brit!! liam something in the breaststroke ;)

roisin
07-31-2005, 09:13 PM
He was part of the team this morning, hopefully they don`t change the team... :D
I saw him swimming the last leg earlier and thought of u!

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 09:20 PM
is it just me or does anyone else find aaron piersol very VERY cute!!! :lol:

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 09:40 PM
I saw him swimming the last leg earlier and thought of u!

:angel: He is the hottest of our German swimmers, the second hottest is Steffen Driesen who swam the first 100 m this morning... :)

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 09:41 PM
is it just me or does anyone else find aaron piersol very VERY cute!!! :lol:

He is, the Americans and the Germans are hot! ;) :angel:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 09:59 PM
He is, the Americans and the Germans are hot! ;) :angel:

Phew glad its not just me...look at him :drool: pwoar!!! ;)

http://tinypic.com/9r36fm.jpg

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 10:07 PM
:angel: He is the hottest of our German swimmers, the second hottest is Steffen Driesen who swam the first 100 m this morning... :)
what about thomas rupprath?

Suzi
07-31-2005, 10:12 PM
is it just me or does anyone else find aaron piersol very VERY cute!!! :lol:

He indeed is cute!

p.s. the british dude Liam Tancock is in the 50m Backstroke - and so is Aaron :yeah:

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 10:17 PM
Finals 1800 (2300 BST)
50m Back M
50m Breast W
400m IM M
50m Free W
1500m Free M (GO GRANT!! :banana: )
400m IM W
4x100m Medley M

here are the PREDICTED winners:

50m Back M - Thomas Rupprath/Aaron Peirsol
50m Breast W - JADE EDMISTONE :D
400m IM M - Laszlo Cseh
50m Free W - Veldhuis/Lenton
1500m Free M - Grant
400m IM W - Katie Hoff
4x100m Medley M - USA :sad:

roisin
07-31-2005, 10:17 PM
Aaron is tres cute. Hackett is my man though :hearts: :yeah: That wee British dude in the 1500m is cute too, Davies I think is his name... :shrug:

roisin
07-31-2005, 10:18 PM
1500m Free M - Grant
:banana:

That'll make my night :D

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 10:20 PM
He indeed is cute!

p.s. the british dude Liam Tancock is in the 50m Backstroke - and so is Aaron :yeah:

*thinks back to last night at 12pm/am when i watched the semis*...Liam finished 2nd maybe behind Aaron? LOL...oh well at least i get my Aaron fix tonight :D:D :drool:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 10:20 PM
Aaron is tres cute. Hackett is my man though :hearts: :yeah: That wee British dude in the 1500m is cute too, Davies I think is his name... :shrug:

ooh il look out for him :)

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 10:21 PM
what about thomas rupprath?

He is okay! :)

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 10:30 PM
http://www.steffen-driesen.de/grafiken/fotos/sport/bild3g.jpg


From left to right: Stefan Herbst, Stefan Kunzelmann and Steffen Driesen (the one with the two dolphin tattoos)

Herbst is the hottest and Driesen the second hottest... :lick:

roisin
07-31-2005, 10:36 PM
Oooh they are hot Alex! :inlove:

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/03/15/grant_hackett_narrowweb__200x300.jpg
Mwhahahahaha Grant will be number 1 again tonight! :yeah: :D

Suzi
07-31-2005, 10:45 PM
a great swimmer but not hot, shame he is kinda in Thorpies shadow, but to break his 800m record is a feat and lets hope he retains his 1,500m title he thoroughly deserves it :)

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 10:52 PM
Grant may put in one of his best 1500's tonight, be prepared ;)

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 10:52 PM
Phelps is so annoying with his stupid head phones 'i think im the best' look :rolleyes: (he may well be but still he doesnt have to act like it! :lol: )

Suzi
07-31-2005, 10:53 PM
i find the head phone things a bit annoying but oh my god does he look like a dork :lol:

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 10:55 PM
50m Back up first... I dont think this greek boy will win

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 10:58 PM
i find the head phone things a bit annoying but oh my god does he look like a dork :lol:
yer, just like Andrew Murray :lol:

Suzi
07-31-2005, 11:00 PM
dont get me started on andy 'i look like henman' murray! :rolleyes: :p ooo its starting

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:03 PM
lane 8: marco di carli - thats a very german name :haha::haha::haha:

Suzi
07-31-2005, 11:04 PM
i thought that yesterday!

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:04 PM
dont get me started on andy 'i look like henman' murray! :rolleyes: :p ooo its starting

he doesnt :awww: :confused:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:04 PM
CMON BRIT and AARON!!!

Suzi
07-31-2005, 11:05 PM
the greek guy did win

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:05 PM
YES BRONZE for Tancock :D

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:05 PM
well I'm impressed, didnt think he would do it

Suzi
07-31-2005, 11:06 PM
nor did i, but i must say quite hot :)

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:07 PM
nor did i, but i must say quite hot :)

:haha: u read my thoughts!!

bad gambler
07-31-2005, 11:08 PM
Hackett won't break the WR

I'm tipping a time of 14.42.33

;)

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:09 PM
Lets go Haywood!!!

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:09 PM
jade up next :D

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:10 PM
jade could give this WR a shake here :D

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:12 PM
Lets go Haywood!!!

or not :tape:

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:12 PM
jade could give this WR a shake here :D
I AM THE KING :cool:

:lol:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:12 PM
I AM THE KING :cool:

:lol:

:haha:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:13 PM
Did that jade just kiss a gal :confused:

bad gambler
07-31-2005, 11:13 PM
awesome swim edminston :D

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:14 PM
Jade's coach, is my old coach - John Fowlie

funny guy he is

bad gambler
07-31-2005, 11:14 PM
Aussie girls have won all the 50m disciplines except the freestyle, which is coming on your screen soon...


go libby :D :D

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:15 PM
awesome swim edminston :D
yep

she works real hard, only cant put it together in the 100s, so she doesnt make olympic teams :sad:

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:15 PM
next up:

400m IM M
50m Free W
1500m Free M
400m IM W
4x100m Medley M

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:18 PM
CSEH WILL KILL THIS 400 IM :cool:

bad gambler
07-31-2005, 11:22 PM
CSEH WILL KILL THIS 400 IM :cool:


Why isn;t Phelps swimming the 400IM?

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:23 PM
nice work laszlo

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:24 PM
Why isn;t Phelps swimming the 400IM?
i dont think hes in great shape.

he had a shocking 400 free the first day, so perhaps he thought he better give it a miss.

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:24 PM
womens 50m free next

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:28 PM
LENTON v VELDHUIS

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:29 PM
:drool: Liam Tancock

GermanBoy
07-31-2005, 11:32 PM
lane 8: marco di carli - thats a very german name :haha::haha::haha:

He is ugly and it seems he will replace Stefan Herbst in the team later... :mad:

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:38 PM
NICE ONE LIBBY

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:39 PM
***LADIES AND GENTS... IT IS TIME FOR THE HACKETT SHOW***

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

its.like.that
07-31-2005, 11:46 PM
GRANT GRANT GRANT

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:49 PM
CMON DAVID DAVIES!!!! fastest qualifier :D:D CMON BRIT BOY :D

Aleksa's Laydee
07-31-2005, 11:54 PM
move ya ass david :mad:

Aleksa's Laydee
08-01-2005, 12:05 AM
bugger u jensen :fiery:

david :sad:

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 12:07 AM
GREAT SWIM GRANT :D

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 12:08 AM
up next, YOUNG KATIE HOFF... GONNA TAKE THESE GIRLS TO SCHOOL :cool:

all 8 laps of it ;)

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 12:15 AM
hurry up ladies...

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 12:18 AM
here we go :D

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 12:28 AM
Katie Hoff - amazing... killed the opposition

GermanBoy
08-01-2005, 01:03 AM
The American girl who won the bronze medal was much better looking... :p

GermanBoy
08-01-2005, 01:03 AM
It`s over now and that makes me sad... :sad:

bad gambler
08-01-2005, 03:55 AM
Hackett won't break the WR

I'm tipping a time of 14.42.33

;)

Shit, how close was I :eek:

JMG
08-01-2005, 10:49 AM
Rupprath you idiot! :o

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 10:55 AM
lol... yer, i wanted tommy to swim well too

Black Adam
08-01-2005, 12:15 PM
this is correct, he wished to match Mark Spitz's record

he won 5 gold and 2 bronze
No, he won 6 Gold & 2Bronze out of the 8 Gold he wanted.
The guy is just awesome and I bet he is gonna do big hings in Beijin 2008 ;)

Black Adam
08-01-2005, 12:24 PM
Btw why do people dislike Phelps? :confused: Is it because of the walkman? Wit kinda helps concetrate............. you may ask Andy Murray;)

roisin
08-01-2005, 01:30 PM
Phelps is alright. Amazing swimmer, so versatile. :yeah: He didn't do 400 IM cos he dropped that and some other event that I can't think of at the mo, which are 2 of his best events to do 100 and 400 free (me thinks) for a challenge. Brave lad. :)

GRANT GRANT GRANT!!! :worship: My guy totally rocked. He is a legend! Thats 4 world championship 1500m golds in a row! :eek: :worship: He's gotta be the greatest distance swimmer ever. Fantastic! Pity he didn't get near the WR but whatever, he still won by a country mile. :D :D :D :D :D

:yeah: for David Davies too!

What happened to the American 4x100 medley relay team? I know they won but not but much! Didn't come near the WR either!!

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 02:07 PM
:lol:

Suzi
08-01-2005, 04:12 PM
I fell asleep, so missed the grant hackett show, but thank god for highlights :p

roisin
08-01-2005, 04:30 PM
Tut tut Suzzer how could you!

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 05:22 PM
those italian boys were good in the IM, watch out for them in Beijing ;)

Suzi
08-01-2005, 05:32 PM
indeed they were, the one in the 5th lane i thought ok hes way behind after a wee while he wont win a medal but then kapow he got a silver medal :p, p.s. is it just me or if you shove some hair on Cseh (have no clue how you spell it) he looks like phelps kinda, plus the other one boggiato was only just pipped to bronze :eek:

GermanBoy
08-01-2005, 05:48 PM
They really dared substituting di Carli for Stefan Herbst and that only because this Mickey Mouse with freckles swam one race faster on this distance somewhere... :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: How could they? :mad:

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 05:58 PM
indeed they were, the one in the 5th lane i thought ok hes way behind after a wee while he wont win a medal but then kapow he got a silver medal :p, p.s. is it just me or if you shove some hair on Cseh (have no clue how you spell it) he looks like phelps kinda, plus the other one boggiato was only just pipped to bronze :eek:
lol... i have never noticed that about cseh

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 06:00 PM
They really dared substituting di Carli for Stefan Herbst and that only because this Mickey Mouse with freckles swam one race faster on this distance somewhere... :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: How could they? :mad:


lol... i saw di carli, and he isnt very good, and he is also kinda funny looking

:lol::lol:

what an insult to stefan :sad:

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 06:03 PM
Filipo Magnini, he is my new hero :)

roisin
08-01-2005, 06:35 PM
Grant Hackett is my new hero :)

alfonsojose
08-01-2005, 06:39 PM
i'm a fan of guys in swimsuits. Can i join :angel: ?

Sandra
08-01-2005, 07:21 PM
Can someone tell me how many medals did Phelps win?Thank you:wavey:

roisin
08-01-2005, 07:31 PM
he won 5 gold anyways

Sandra
08-01-2005, 07:35 PM
5??????:bigcry:

roisin
08-01-2005, 07:36 PM
Yep, and he still didn't get swimmer of the meet :nerner: :devil: :D

Grant Hackett & Kristy Coventry won that :yeah:

Sandra
08-01-2005, 07:37 PM
:banana:

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 08:43 PM
:D

but I think Katie Hoff or Liesel Jones should have been swimmer of the meet for girls

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 08:44 PM
i'm a fan of guys in swimsuits. Can i join :angel: ?
sure, we love guys who love guys in swimsuits :)

oneandonlyhsn
08-01-2005, 08:46 PM
Yep, and he still didn't get swimmer of the meet :nerner: :devil: :D

Grant Hackett & Kristy Coventry won that :yeah:

Its about time that Hackett :worship: was recognized for his acievements and such a nice guy too.

Hackett and Coventry I really like, but what about Dani Mitake that girl is somthing 1st time Gold medal :eek: awesome in 50m thats unbelievable

its.like.that
08-01-2005, 09:19 PM
Its about time that Hackett :worship: was recognized for his acievements and such a nice guy too.

Hackett and Coventry I really like, but what about Dani Mitake that girl is somthing 1st time Gold medal :eek: awesome in 50m thats unbelievable
she's not a very nice person to most people, you probably wouldnt like her.

shes very pushy and bitchy, and likes to sleep around :lol:

Suzi
08-01-2005, 10:55 PM
:lol:

its.like.that
08-02-2005, 01:48 AM
I'm not kidding either, I know most of the younger girls and guys on the Aussie team.

roisin
08-02-2005, 12:19 PM
Oooh insider links!!!

its.like.that
08-02-2005, 03:03 PM
Oooh insider links!!!
lol... yep

its the older lot who get up to no good though

roisin
08-02-2005, 03:25 PM
*senses gossip....wants to hear it* ;)

Don't tell me my Grant is a messer! :eek: ;)

its.like.that
08-02-2005, 05:09 PM
*senses gossip....wants to hear it* ;)

Don't tell me my Grant is a messer! :eek: ;)

ok, well a friend of mine, one of the girls who swims distance freestyle for australia was dating a good mate of mine, she dumped him a week before the Olympic trials last year, because she was fooling around with 2 of the Canadian boys who were over here for a training camp...

rumour has it, that the girls coach (who is a native canuck, who has also recently returned to canada) encouraged the canadian boys to fool around with her, in order to break up her relationship with her boyfriend - because the coach said it was getting in the way of her swimming.


another friend of mine, dated a very high profile bald swimmer :p a few years ago... until she realised he was 'sweet talker' :lol: who was only after 1 thing... :sad: (if you know who im talking about, and have heard his voice, try imagining him sweet talking someone :lol:).

there is more if you want, but I have nothing on Grant or Ian. :)

roisin
08-02-2005, 05:12 PM
ok, well a friend of mine, one of the girls who swims distance freestyle for australia was dating a good mate of mine, she dumped him a week before the Olympic trials last year, because she was fooling around with 2 of the Canadian boys who were over here for a training camp...

rumour has it, that the girls coach (who is a native canuck, who has also recently returned to canada) encouraged the canadian boys to fool around with her, in order to break up her relationship with her boyfriend - because the coach said it was getting in the way of her swimming.


another friend of mine, dated a very high profile bald swimmer :p a few years ago... until she realised he was 'sweet talker' :lol: who was only after 1 thing... :sad: (if you know who im talking about, and have heard his voice, try imagining him sweet talking someone :lol:).

there is more if you want, but I have nothing on Grant or Ian. :)
no way!! well that is gossip! how do u have the links in there? ;)

very high profile bald swimmer....hmmm.....didn't grant have no hair in athens last year? :p

Suzi
08-02-2005, 11:36 PM
:eek:

tinuviel_estel
08-03-2005, 03:19 AM
i like that bald sweet talker :sad: that is if i'm guessing right?!

its.like.that
08-03-2005, 06:13 AM
i like that bald sweet talker :sad: that is if i'm guessing right?!
well, there used to be Phil Rogers... but its not him... its the bigger one :p

oneandonlyhsn
08-03-2005, 12:33 PM
she's not a very nice person to most people, you probably wouldnt like her.

shes very pushy and bitchy, and likes to sleep around :lol:

:eek: Wow I'm shocked, any scoop on Liesel Jones

SuperRevelation
08-03-2005, 03:20 PM
Is there a message board for swimming and diving fans?

tinuviel_estel
08-03-2005, 04:56 PM
well, there used to be Phil Rogers... but its not him... its the bigger one :p
the one who has the same coach as popov, when popov was still in australia?

tinuviel_estel
08-03-2005, 06:17 PM
hi! for those who like Alexander Popov :hearts: i have some pics of him :) here is the link: http://photobucket.com/albums/y286/amarie_tinuviel/
the password is shadowfax

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 01:54 AM
:eek: Wow I'm shocked, any scoop on Liesel Jones

Liesel is one of those girls who you went to school with, and you knew who she was, but she kept to her friends and never did anything outrageous or controversial, and you never had much to do with her.

Very friendly and easy to get along with, and she used to be much shyer - but her swimming has given her a lot more confidence. Although apparently she is a bit of a sook and can be moody - as you may have noticed with her post race reactions :p. I remember during Athens they showed Liesel after she won silver and she looked like her mother had just died, and they showed some other girl who won a bronze and was jumping around as happy as can be.

Jess Schipper is somewhat the same as Liesel - not outspoken or offensive, but also far less moody.

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 01:58 AM
no way!! well that is gossip! how do u have the links in there? ;)

I am a swimmer myself. I know some of the Aussie team members and hear all the stories about what goes on when the team goes away. Three of them I know very well, and two of the girls are from my swimming club, and I have raced against all the top non-breastroke guys.

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:02 AM
the one who has the same coach as popov, when popov was still in australia?
that's the one ;)

born in Poland, then came to Australia and decided to go bald :lol:. He is similar to Peter Luczak in many ways, except that Klimmy has more of an Aussie accent.

tinuviel_estel
08-04-2005, 02:03 AM
Jimmy?? :p who is the nicest of all the australian swimmer?

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:04 AM
oh, lol, and if you want to know the names of any of the swimmers i've mentioned, just ask, i dont care, i just thought i would try make things a little mysterious :eek:

tinuviel_estel
08-04-2005, 02:05 AM
that's the one ;)

born in Poland, then came to Australia and decided to go bald :lol:. He is similar to Peter Luczak in many ways, except that Klimmy has more of an Aussie accent.
and you said his name :eek: i'm dissapointed to know that he is a player :sad: but i still like him :)

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:15 AM
Jimmy?? :p who is the nicest of all the australian swimmer?

Matt Dunn used to be...

his name sake Matt Welsh is a total nob. I remember at an small invitational meet last year, 2 young local swimmers who were 10 and 12 (I know them, they're from my club) went over and asked him for an autograph on their t-shirt. I think he was on his phone at the time, and when they asked he snorted something like "go away, can't you see I'm busy" - I lost all respect for him after that.

Luckily the kids didn't cry, they didn't really seem to care that much. Instead I went took them over to meet some of the canadian swimmers - I knew the main coach, he coached me at times, his wife was coached me when i was only 6, and his son was my coach for a long time - but his son left my squad for a better one :sad: - he now coaches that girl who won gold in the 50m breast - Jade Edmistone, his name is John Fowlie, his dad is Jim, and wife Lynn. Lovely family.

Mike Mintenko was very friendly. His family hails from the Ukraine, and mine from a similar area, so we spoke about that for a while. It was sad to see him swim so well at that particular invitational, then swim so poorly in Athens :sad:.


In summer 2002 we even had a beach volleyball match against some of the Canadians when they were down here :lol:. A few fellow swimmers and I played against Morgan Knabe - the guy with the pierced nipples :lol: (think he might be retired now), Riley Janes (a tall backstroker and the guy involved in one of the above stories :lol: ), Mike, and I cant remember the others.

Unfortunately for them, I am also a volleyballer - I made the Australian u/18 team a few years ago, so they lost every match :lol:.

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:17 AM
Is there a message board for swimming and diving fans?

there are no good ones as of yet. if i come across one, i shall be sure to post it.

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:21 AM
Is there a message board for swimming and diving fans?

is the great Claudia Poll famous in south america?

or what about Gustavo Borges?

tinuviel_estel
08-04-2005, 02:26 AM
Jimmy, you are on talented guy :worship:

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:26 AM
and you said his name :eek: i'm dissapointed to know that he is a player :sad: but i still like him :)

I believe Klim recently got married, to a princess from somewhere :lol:.

I'll see if i can find the story.

tinuviel_estel
08-04-2005, 02:28 AM
I believe Klim recently got married, to a princess from somewhere :lol:.

I'll see if i can find the story.
no. way! to a Princess???!!!! you're kidding me :eek:

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:32 AM
Jimmy, you are on talented guy :worship:

:lol: thanks. sadly my heart just wasnt there for volleyball... it was hard enough keeping up with school and 2 sports (swimming and tennis) to try and play volleyball at a competitive level as well :sad:.

I also had a brief waterpolo stint :p, but my swim coach shut that one down quickly :sad:.

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:33 AM
no. way! to a Princess???!!!! you're kidding me :eek:
he was either married or became engaged to a princess from Bali or Fiji or somewhere like that...

:scratch:

tinuviel_estel
08-04-2005, 02:35 AM
:lol: thanks. sadly my heart just wasnt there for volleyball... it was hard enough keeping up with school and 2 sports (swimming and tennis) to try and play volleyball at a competitive level as well :sad:.

I also had a brief waterpolo stint :p, but my swim coach shut that one down quickly :sad:.
how many hours and days do you swim?

tinuviel_estel
08-04-2005, 02:36 AM
btw, have you watched the 4x200 m freestyle in athens? that was a thriller!!!

its.like.that
08-04-2005, 02:40 AM
how many hours and days do you swim?
Mon AM and PM
Tues AM and PM
Wed PM
Thurs AM and PM
Fri AM and PM
Sat Am

although I occasionally throw in the odd extra session, if I'm feeling lazy :p...

some of that includes gym and other strength work which we swimmers call "dryland training".

:p