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Davis Cup 2005 SF - Slovak Republic vs. Argentina

Hendu
07-18-2005, 02:58 PM
Semifinal

Slovak Republic - Argentina

23 Sep - 25 Sep 2005

Hrbaty - "Of course Argentina will be favourites, but I think that we have more togetherness. That is the main thing about our team. Also we will be playing at home so we can choose the surface. But Argentina has many players from the top 10 but I have played them before and managed to win so I think we can win if we play our usual Davis Cup match."

Hrbaty's record against Nalbandian (0-1)

L - 2004 Monte Carlo AMS, Clay, R64 Monaco - 3 6 0 6

Hrbaty's record against Coria (2-2)

W - 2003 Barcelona, Clay, R32 Spain - 4 3
L - 2002 Costa Do Sauipe, Hard, Q Brasil - 2 6 4 6
L - 2002 Prostejov, CH, Clay, Q Czech Republic - 5 7 2 6
W - 2002 Mallorca, Clay, R32 Spain - 6 0 1 0

Miroslav Mecir (Slovak captain) - "For sure it is a big surprise that Argentina beat Australia because they were playing at home on a good surface that gave them a big advantage. "We wouldn’t like to play Argentina on clay so probably we will choose a faster surface like this one."

Slovak Republic won the only meeting between them in 1998 (in Buenos Aires) with an amazing performance of Dominik Hrbaty against Hernan Gumy, giving them the 5th and decisive point.

Link to info of that tie (http://www.daviscup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=10000487)

This tie is probably going to be played in Bratislava, on the same surface they used against the Spanish an the Dutch.

Is not going to be easy for the Argentines since Hrbaty is a great Davis Cup player...

*Ljubica*
07-19-2005, 07:14 PM
I am worried that after the euphoria of beating the Aussies on grass in Sydney last weekend, the Argentine Team may subconsciously relax and think this tie is easy. Everyone thought the Australia tie would be the biggest hurdle and now they have overcome it, they may feel almost overconfident and Slovakia away on a very fast surface will not be easy.

I was at the Monte Carlo match last year when David destroyed Hrbaty 6-3, 6-0 - but I don't think that scoreline is indicative of what a talented player Hrbaty is, and he definately does raise his game when playing for his country. I hope to be there to cheer Team Argentina on, - I hope they can win but think it will be a hard tie for them.

Hendu
07-19-2005, 10:07 PM
Rosie, what do you think about the surface?

Against the Spanish and the Dutch this year, and last year against the Germans, they played in Bratislava on Hard (Premier), Indoors.

But in 2002 against Romania and in 2001 against Chile, they played in Presov, on Carpet (Taraflex), Indoors.

What surface do you think they are going to choose?

To the Slovaks in the forum, are there any possibilities you are going back to play in Presov... or install a carpet court in the Stadium in Bratislava?

Thanks in advance...

Action Jackson
07-20-2005, 04:11 AM
They will probably play in Bratislava on the fastest surface possible known to man, to stop the Argentines. Basically the simple equation is that if David Nalbandian doesn't play, then Argentina will not win.

Hrbaty is a Davis Cup warrior and plays so much better for Slovakia. As for Mancini, he won't let them get too overconfident and tie will be very difficult.

*Ljubica*
07-20-2005, 05:31 AM
Rosie, what do you think about the surface?

Against the Spanish and the Dutch this year, and last year against the Germans, they played in Bratislava on Hard (Premier), Indoors.

But in 2002 against Romania and in 2001 against Chile, they played in Presov, on Carpet (Taraflex), Indoors.

What surface do you think they are going to choose?

To the Slovaks in the forum, are there any possibilities you are going back to play in Presov... or install a carpet court in the Stadium in Bratislava?

Thanks in advance...

I agree with GWH - I think they will play on the fastest surface they can find - like Belarus did last year! I think they'll play in Bratislava because Presov may not be big or "high profile" enough a venue for a semi final against a big team like Argentina, - though whether they could lay a carpet court in the Bratislava stadium is something I can't answer as I've never been to the venue. As you say, I'm sure some of our Slovak posters would be able to answer that one.

Action Jackson
07-20-2005, 05:33 AM
It isn't that difficult to lay down a carpet court and they will do everything they can to benefit them, use a lighter ball and if they could get away with an ice rink they will do it.

ys
07-20-2005, 01:41 PM
It isn't that difficult to lay down a carpet court and they will do everything they can to benefit them, use a lighter ball and if they could get away with an ice rink they will do it.

That is stupid. Slovaks are ever worse on fastcourts than Argentinians. Look at W results. They should play on hardcourts of American type. That's their only chance as it is good surface for them, not the best surface of Argentinians, and plus crowd support, etc. At least they have a shot on hardcourts. On carpet Nalbandian and Coria will tear them apart.

jole
07-20-2005, 10:26 PM
It will be very interesting to see what they choose. My gut says it will end up being some variance of a hard court, but you certainly cannot rule out the carpet.

Many win-loss records do not count the defeat Hrbaty gave to Coria earlier this year at the Hopman Cup. Perth is obviously an indoor hard court, but I'm not sure exactly what it is like. Though my guess would be it is similar speed to what is used in Melbourne. Another reason it is a relevant result is because it is similar to Davis Cup in that Hrbaty was "playing for Slovakia".

Scotso
07-21-2005, 02:47 AM
Goooo Slovakia! :D

Action Jackson
07-21-2005, 07:10 AM
That is stupid. Slovaks are ever worse on fastcourts than Argentinians. Look at W results. They should play on hardcourts of American type. That's their only chance as it is good surface for them, not the best surface of Argentinians, and plus crowd support, etc. At least they have a shot on hardcourts. On carpet Nalbandian and Coria will tear them apart.

What is stupid is to for one assume that it will be the same team that played in Australia, there are things that can happen and two, the fact that Hrbaty plays 5 times above his normal self when he is playing Davis Cup, especially at home.

Well the Slovaks aren't going to play on a slow surface are they? Hence the faster it is, the better for them and if the teams remain unchanged then the doubles will be even more important.

*Ljubica*
07-21-2005, 12:02 PM
What is stupid is to for one assume that it will be the same team that played in Australia, there are things that can happen and two, the fact that Hrbaty plays 5 times above his normal self when he is playing Davis Cup, especially at home.

Well the Slovaks aren't going to play on a slow surface are they? Hence the faster it is, the better for them and if the teams remain unchanged then the doubles will be even more important.

Well I think it will be pretty much the same team barring injuries. David and Mariano Puerta are playing doubles at the US Open as they have already been approached to be the doubles' team in Slovakia, and I can't imagine Mancini leaving out Coria as the other singles player - so seems it will be the same team.

jazz_girl
07-21-2005, 12:25 PM
Maybe if Cañas is not senteced by the ATP he'll be part of the team, but I still don't know how it will be. Though if nothing happens I guess the match will be pretty much the same.

jazz_girl
07-21-2005, 12:28 PM
Besides, even if some names have changed, the team has been quite the same if you think about it. Against Czech Republic, Coria and Nalbandian were the singlists, and David played doubles with Puerta. In Australia, Guillermo and David were singlists and David also played doubles, this time with Puerta. I don't think it will vary that much.

Hendu
07-21-2005, 03:56 PM
Besides, even if some names have changed, the team has been quite the same if you think about it. Against Czech Republic, Coria and Nalbandian were the singlists, and David played doubles with Puerta. In Australia, Guillermo and David were singlists and David also played doubles, this time with Puerta. I don't think it will vary that much.

:scratch: Well thats pretty much the same team.... :lol:

against Czech Republic Coria and Nalbandian played the singles, and David and Willy Cañas played the doubles.

I think against the Slovak Republic the team won't change... unless Cañas doesn't receive a suspension. In that case, Cañas will replace Etlis.

ys
07-21-2005, 05:03 PM
:scratch: Well thats pretty much the same team.... :lol:

against Czech Republic Coria and Nalbandian played the singles, and David and Willy Cañas played the doubles.

I think against the Slovak Republic the team won't change... unless Cañas doesn't receive a suspension. In that case, Cañas will replace Etlis.

Even if he does not get suspended, forget about Canas for this year. He will be out of sorts, hardly of capable of serious training until the whole story is over. This kind of situation is always very detrimental to player's ability, regardless of whether it materialises into suspension or not. Look at Kuznetsova. She has never been under serious threat of being suspended. Yet, it took her long, long time to get over it.

Action Jackson
07-22-2005, 12:31 AM
Even if he does not get suspended, forget about Canas for this year. He will be out of sorts, hardly of capable of serious training until the whole story is over. This kind of situation is always very detrimental to player's ability, regardless of whether it materialises into suspension or not. Look at Kuznetsova. She has never been under serious threat of being suspended. Yet, it took her long, long time to get over it.

Too true.

Action Jackson
07-22-2005, 12:32 AM
Well I think it will be pretty much the same team barring injuries. David and Mariano Puerta are playing doubles at the US Open as they have already been approached to be the doubles' team in Slovakia, and I can't imagine Mancini leaving out Coria as the other singles player - so seems it will be the same team.

Mainly I was refering to the fact assuming there are no injuries, but if there are then it will be very difficult.

revolution
07-22-2005, 01:03 AM
Same squad I'd say, although if Canas is cleared of the drugs charges then I think he would be in the squad too.

jole
07-22-2005, 02:24 AM
Yes, barring injuries, I'd bet both nations will have the same teams with the obvious possible, yet uncertain, addition of Canas.

Hendu
07-23-2005, 05:02 PM
Its Official, the tie will be played in the Sibamac Arena (National Tennis Centre) in Bratislava.

The surface will be the same they used against Netherlands and Spain.

Its supposed to be hard, but the Spanish Team complained.... they said it was not a hardcourt like the ITF announced, but a fast carpet. We will see...

Avendaño (one of Spain's Captains) said - “No es una pista dura indoor, como la ITF había anunciado, sino una pista de material sintético de aspecto gomoso pintado”. “Se puede apreciar en el agujero de los postes de la red de dobles, metes la mano y levantas la moqueta”. (translation: You can appreciate it in the holes of the posts (of the doubles net), you put the hand in and raise the carpet) :confused:

So to our Slovak pals... whats that surface? a carpet?

:scratch: or is it a hardcourt and the Spanish were just whining?

*Ljubica*
07-23-2005, 08:13 PM
Here is the link to the media article Willy is talking about:-

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pagina.jsp?pagId=1019552

El equipo de Dominik Hrbaty, Karol Beck y Karol Kucera, que recibirá a Argentina del 23 al 25 de septiembre en una semifinal, confirmó que jugará en el Sibamac Arena National Tennis Centre de Bratislava. El estadio es cubierto y, según los eslovacos, el court tiene una superficie dura ("hard court"). Los españoles, derrotados allí, habían dicho que la pista no es de cemento, sino de una carpeta rápida.

Don't know whether the Spanish were "whining" or not - but at least the Argentine Team have the advantage of foresight in this - they will know what to expect there.

NyGeL
08-07-2005, 02:10 AM
This is a note from TyC Sports, about a letter sent by the AAT (Argentina Federation) about the Slovakian surface.
As art. 36 from Davis Cup rules says, the chosen surface must be used in any GS or in 3 ATP tournaments. In case of Carpet, the host nation must said wich kind of carpet and over what kind of base, so the ITF and the away nation can aprove it.
The problems that AAT accused is that the surface chosen, isn't used in any ATP Tournament, wich is faster than any other. They don't want to suffer again the same problem that happened in Minsk against Beralus. Also Spain complained about the slovakian surface.
Other complains were:

- the training court have a different surface than the central court and it's one hour (in car) away.
- the stadium is 45 minutes away from the Hotel.

La Nota:

La Asociación Argentina de Tenis (AAT) envió una nota a la Federación Internacional de Tenis mostrando su preocupación sobre la superficie que se utilizará en la semifinal de la Copa Davis. Además, también se quejaron por lo sucedido en Australia.

La Asociación Argentina de Tenis, a través de una carta enviada a la Federación Internacional (FIT), expresó su preocupación por la superficie que pondrá Eslovaquia, en una de las semifinales de la Copa Davis.

“Conociendo que España ha hecho saber a la FIT su desacuerdo sobre la superficie en que se jugó en Eslovaquia, nos preocupa encontrarnos con la misma situación cuando juguemos la semifinal en Bratislava”, dice el párrafo inicial.

El escrito hace referencia al artículo 36, inciso a, en el cual se menciona que la superficie debe ser utilizada en un torneo de Grand Slam o, en su defecto, en un mínimo de tres torneos del circuito profesional masculino.

Asimismo, en la nota 4 se aclara que, cuando una eliminatoria se juegue sobre “moqueta, la Nación anfitriona deberá comunicar el tipo de moqueta y el tipo de base sobre la que se colocará”. Esto sería así, intuye la institución argentina, “para su aceptación y aprobación por la FIT y la Nación visitante”.

“No queremos encontrarnos con una situación similar a la presentada el año anterior en Belarús, en donde la superficie era excesivamente rápida por la moqueta empleada y por la base sobre la cual estaba colocada”, continúa la nota.

Es por esto que la AAT solicita que se le informe sobre la cuestión, “en defensa de nuestras posibilidades, del buen desarrollo del deporte y del normal desempeño de nuestro equipo”, para no encontrarse, luego, “con hechos consumados e irreversibles imposibles de subsanar al momento del encuentro”.

Además, la AAT envío otra nota quejándose de lo ocurrido en los cuartos de final en Australia. Sobre la cancha de césped, el presidente Enrique Morea expresó que “es la peor que he conocido”, por no ser la adecuada para el invierno y por su excesiva humedad en ciertos sectores, con el riesgo de lesión que ello implicó para los jugadores.

Asimismo, se reclamó la ubicación del estadio central, muy lejos del hotel de las delegaciones, “a 45 minutos de automóvil”. Y finalmente se hizo mención a las canchas de entrenamiento, no sólo por tener una superficie “diferente” a la utilizada en el estadio de la serie, sino también por estar ubicadas a una hora de viaje de la cancha de la serie.

Fuente: TyC Sports

crazyrobert
08-08-2005, 02:38 AM
come on argintina i think nakbandian is a top player and rather underated and i like coria aggression towards umpires on line calls in so amusing come on argy

me_luv_Dommy
08-14-2005, 06:57 AM
Anywayz, Good luck to the Slovak team! :banana:

MonikaVa
09-01-2005, 01:18 PM
I just read through your posts and can confirm that from the tickets I have bought the Semis will be played in Bratislava at Sibamac Arena (the tickets are completely sold out here). What it takes the surface, it was mentioned several times here in the media by the Slovak DC Captain, that it will be pretty much the same as against Holland, maybe a bit faster. (almost forgot to mention that I am Slovak).
GO SLOVAKIA! :)

Scotso
09-13-2005, 05:15 AM
Have the teams been officially chosen?

Denaon
09-13-2005, 03:35 PM
Have the teams been officially chosen?
I'm not quite sure this is official yet, but they said that Argentina's team will be David Nalbandian, Guillermo Coria (both likely to play singles), Mariano Puerta (David's doubles partner) and Gastón Gaudio who will be doing some sightseeing :lol:

smucav
09-13-2005, 05:08 PM
The ITF has announced the team nominations for the Semifinals and Play-offs of the 2005 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas World Group and eight Zonal ties to be played on 23-25 September. Some team nominations are still to be confirmed and will appear on www.daviscup.com as soon as they are available.

Live scoring for all World Group ties will be available on the Davis Cup website throughout the weekend.

WORLD GROUP SEMIFINALS

SLOVAK REPUBLIC v ARGENTINA
Venue: Bratislava, Slovak Republic (hard - indoors)

Slovak Republic
Dominik Hrbaty
Karol Beck
Karol Kucera
Michal Mertinak
Captain: Miloslav Mecir

Argentina
Guillermo Coria
David Nalbandian
Mariano Puerta
Gaston Gaudio
Captain: Alberto Mancini

CROATIA v RUSSIA
Venue: Split, Croatia (carpet - indoors)

Croatia
Ivan Ljubicic
Mario Ancic
Ivo Karlovic
Sasa Tuksar
Captain: Niki Pilic

Russia
Nikolay Davydenko
Mikhail Youzhny
Igor Andreev
Dmitry Tursunov
Captain: Shamil Tarpischev

Lenka
09-13-2005, 06:38 PM
I just read through your posts and can confirm that from the tickets I have bought the Semis will be played in Bratislava at Sibamac Arena (the tickets are completely sold out here). What it takes the surface, it was mentioned several times here in the media by the Slovak DC Captain, that it will be pretty much the same as against Holland, maybe a bit faster. (almost forgot to mention that I am Slovak).
GO SLOVAKIA! :)

sorry...off topic :rolleyes:
have you been to the matches of the first round against Spain?

Scotso
09-14-2005, 05:03 AM
Slovak Republic
Dominik Hrbaty
Karol Beck
Karol Kucera
Michal Mertinak
Captain: Miloslav Mecir

:banana:

keqtqiadv
09-14-2005, 11:06 PM
As a normal Brazilian, I will support Slovak Republic. Hope Hrbaty and Beck take this tie.

sergiodc
09-15-2005, 12:32 PM
as a normal Brazilian? :confused: :confused: what does is mean buddy? Tennis isn't soccer go to a soccer fancier forum! I always support latin americans and of course enjoy watching my favorite top worldwide players.
Beck and Hrbaty are both good players, but they definitely are not favorites to win this tie.


As a normal Brazilian, I will support Slovak Republic. Hope Hrbaty and Beck take this tie.

Hendu
09-15-2005, 06:27 PM
Beck and Hrbaty are both good players, but they definitely are not favorites to win this tie.

Beck defeated Nalbandian some weeks ago in Montreal AMS (hard), and Hrbaty is a VERY dangerous Davis Cup player.

They have a nice team and they will play at home, on a very fast surface.

None of both teams are big favourites.

Action Jackson
09-15-2005, 06:29 PM
This will be like an ice rink it will be that fast and if they are 1-1 at the end of Day 1 it's a good base for the Argentines.

matt25
09-16-2005, 08:40 PM
http://danielahantuchova.sk/images/dominik.jpg

No chance Argentina :-)

keqtqiadv
09-16-2005, 08:45 PM
as a normal Brazilian? :confused: :confused: what does is mean buddy? Tennis isn't soccer go to a soccer fancier forum! I always support latin americans and of course enjoy watching my favorite top worldwide players.
Hahahaha, it's not a soccer feeling. I used this expression because it is common. Here in Brazil there is a wrong bad impression of argentines, starting on soccer and going to all other sides of sport and social life. I don't have this feeling. Actually I am natural to go against the favorites. I wanted Argentina to beat Australia, but Slovakia is another discussion (Hrbaty and Beck are players that I enjoy more than Coria, Nalbandian and Gaudio). And seeing that only one of a group of thousands of brazilians enjoy tennis, feww people think as me. It's rare to find one that admire at least one argentine. Only Corinthians supporters (as me), but if Tevez and Mascherano leave, they will change their minds again. It's sad, but it's Brazil reality.
(I didn't like 2004 and 2002 Brazil Open finals. Guga won but brazilians weren't nice with Coria and Calleri. And Canas and Calleri are still two of my favorite players)

keqtqiadv
09-16-2005, 08:50 PM
I don't have nationality preferences (of course, it doesn't count to Brazil, asian - I have japanese blood - or strange countries). I support players that give me a good first impression. It's a unexplainable(does it exists?) feeling. Coria, Gaudio and Nalbandian aren't my favorites (it seems that sometimes they aren't interested in the match) but ToJo and Corretja are.

Scotso
09-17-2005, 01:33 AM
http://danielahantuchova.sk/images/dominik.jpg

No chance Argentina :-)

:bounce:

Lenka
09-17-2005, 01:31 PM
http://danielahantuchova.sk/images/dominik.jpg

No chance Argentina :-)


hey, when I was at the Davis Cup in Slovakia in February I met Dominik in the hall or players lounge or I don't know what, he rushed to the press conference and he had the national flag on his face and dyed hair with the national colors (like in your pic) and as he rushed out of the locker room I totally got scared of him :lol: I and my mum bursted out laughing

NyGeL
09-18-2005, 03:10 PM
i also hate brazil at sports, so no problem bud!!! gj with uruguay at america zone "B" hahahah :p (i would love to go to montevideo and see the matches xD)

This will be a good tie!!!

jazz_girl
09-18-2005, 04:29 PM
According to the Argentine team, the surface is not as fast as the Belarus one at all. They even said that it's slower than the one at Paris Bercy. Gaudio, Nalbandian and Puerta will start training today and Coria will join them tomorrow night.

MonikaVa
09-19-2005, 07:19 AM
sorry...off topic :rolleyes:
have you been to the matches of the first round against Spain?

Sorry.... late reply.
Unfortunately not, was abroad at the time, have been to the match with Holland and looking forward to this weekend. (by the way have seen Domino driving to practise in NTC).
GO SLOVAKIA!

Lenka
09-19-2005, 08:07 PM
Sorry.... late reply.
Unfortunately not, was abroad at the time, have been to the match with Holland and looking forward to this weekend. (by the way have seen Domino driving to practise in NTC).
GO SLOVAKIA!

thanks for answer, and good luck!!! :)

me_luv_Dommy
09-20-2005, 04:05 PM
Yup yup, Gooooo Slovakia!!!!

Lenka
09-20-2005, 05:45 PM
I read that if Slovaks will win and reach the final they would cut their hair close, do you know about it?

lorenz
09-20-2005, 06:11 PM
Hey Slovaks!!
Get ready to lose this tie !!!!!!:devil:

Denaon
09-20-2005, 06:19 PM
Hey Slovaks!!
Get ready to lose this tie !!!!!!:devil:
:lol: :bounce: :banana: :lol:

I like your avie ;)

lorenz
09-20-2005, 06:34 PM
:lol: :bounce: :banana: :lol:

I like your avie ;)

Está barbaro!!
Is great, awesome !!! I enjoyed this moment too much .

Scotso
09-20-2005, 09:29 PM
I read that if Slovaks will win and reach the final they would cut their hair close, do you know about it?

Don't they all already have hair like that?

jole
09-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Don't they all already have hair like that?

It might be that they will shave their heads, but I'm not totally sure, will have to have Lenka confirm. I'd like to see the stoic Kucera with a shaved head. :p

Scotso
09-21-2005, 03:03 AM
I don't care what Kucera does, but if Michal, Dominik, and Karol B shave their heads... :help:

MonikaVa
09-21-2005, 07:00 AM
from what Domino said in his last interviews, they agreed on shaving their heads if they will win this tie, and he is looking forward to see Mecirs bold head. So yes it seems to be true (at least if you believe what is written in Slovak newspapers...)

Experimentee
09-21-2005, 01:44 PM
Go Slovaks! :bounce:

As I see it, Hrbaty must win both his matches, as I dont think Karol can beat Nalby. The Arg doubles team is pretty good too. It is winnable if Hrbaty wins both and Karol beats Coria.

Lenka
09-21-2005, 03:17 PM
It might be that they will shave their heads, but I'm not totally sure, will have to have Lenka confirm. I'd like to see the stoic Kucera with a shaved head. :p


Yes, they wrote in the Czech media that if they win they will shave their heads, I'm sorry If I made you confused

jole
09-21-2005, 06:34 PM
Yes, they wrote in the Czech media that if they win they will shave their heads, I'm sorry If I made you confused

No problem at all Lenka. :)

gooner88
09-21-2005, 08:36 PM
Go Slovaks! :bounce:

As I see it, Hrbaty must win both his matches, as I dont think Karol can beat Nalby. The Arg doubles team is pretty good too. It is winnable if Hrbaty wins both and Karol beats Coria.

Beck beat Nalbo just last month in Montreal so anything's possible.
With the Davis Cup expect the unexpected!

Scotso
09-21-2005, 11:02 PM
Beck beat Nalbo just last month in Montreal so anything's possible.
With the Davis Cup expect the unexpected!

Exactly, and that was on David's favorite surface :p

Go Karol :devil:

But now I'm torn. If they lose, at least I'll be happy that they won't shave their heads.

sports freak
09-22-2005, 05:27 AM
Sorry Slovak supporters,but Argentina gonna mow the grass clean 3-0!!!!Another reason for them to keep their hair so they can hide it over the face when the defeat becomes reality!!!!!

Argentina vs Spain Final!!!Wonder who has the HOME COURT ADVANTAGE???Argentina on Grass or Spain on Clay???

jole
09-22-2005, 05:29 AM
Sorry Slovak supporters,but Argentina gonna mow the grass clean 3-0!!!!Another reason for them to keep their hair so they can hide it over the face when the defeat becomes reality!!!!!

Argentina vs Spain Final!!!Wonder who has the HOME COURT ADVANTAGE???Argentina on Grass or Spain on Clay???

The Dom is good. (tm)

Scotso
09-22-2005, 05:46 AM
Sorry Slovak supporters,but Argentina gonna mow the grass clean 3-0!!!!Another reason for them to keep their hair so they can hide it over the face when the defeat becomes reality!!!!!

Argentina vs Spain Final!!!Wonder who has the HOME COURT ADVANTAGE???Argentina on Grass or Spain on Clay???

Forgive me if I don't go to the bookies with your predictions, especially considering that Spain was eliminated in the first round by the team you're writing off.

sports freak
09-22-2005, 05:51 AM
The Dom is good. (tm)

;) :wavey: Some how i thought this was played in Argentina??? :rolleyes: anyway still think Argentinan players are up at the moment while the Slovak players are little bit down on form that is!!!That could be the deciding factor!!!Played in Slovak,i gotta give credit to the Dom who is capable of winning
at home!!!!But overall Argentina come out on top!!!Argentina's got a strong doubles pairing,so you could say their 1 up already,no getting ahead of myself but that is the case!!! :eek:

P.S The DOM is GOOD!!!!!! :)

MonikaVa
09-22-2005, 07:14 AM
Sorry Slovak supporters,but Argentina gonna mow the grass clean 3-0!!!!Another reason for them to keep their hair so they can hide it over the face when the defeat becomes reality!!!!!

Argentina vs Spain Final!!!Wonder who has the HOME COURT ADVANTAGE???Argentina on Grass or Spain on Clay???


I believe you haven´t seen Domino play in his hometown in his casa, because if you had you would be 100% sure he can beat anyone. That leaves only one point to win the tie and with Coria being not a happy camper when screamed at by fans of the other side, might help too. So pretty much expecting to see only bold heads of our DC Team by Monday.....

Action Jackson
09-22-2005, 07:22 AM
Sorry Slovak supporters,but Argentina gonna mow the grass clean 3-0!!!!Another reason for them to keep their hair so they can hide it over the face when the defeat becomes reality!!!!!

Argentina vs Spain Final!!!Wonder who has the HOME COURT ADVANTAGE???Argentina on Grass or Spain on Clay???

Your knowledge of the subject is up there with Einstein and the theory of relativity.

Truc
09-22-2005, 09:48 AM
The draw has been made:
Karol Beck (SVK) v Guillermo Coria (ARG)
Dominik Hrbaty (SVK) v David Nalbandian (ARG)
Karol Beck/Michal Mertinak (SVK) v David Nalbandian/Mariano Puerta (ARG)
Dominik Hrbaty (SVK) v Guillermo Coria (ARG)
Karol Beck (SVK) v David Nalbandian (ARG)

sports freak
09-22-2005, 10:05 AM
Your knowledge of the subject is up there with Einstein and the theory of relativity.

Shows how much ive been keepin track after the Shattering Davis Cup lost!!! :tape: I beta leave while its SAFE!!! :rolleyes:

sports freak
09-22-2005, 10:07 AM
I believe you haven´t seen Domino play in his hometown in his casa, because if you had you would be 100% sure he can beat anyone. That leaves only one point to win the tie and with Coria being not a happy camper when screamed at by fans of the other side, might help too. So pretty much expecting to see only bold heads of our DC Team by Monday.....

Wit all due respect i do like the Dom,and agree wit your all your points fired between my eyes!!! :rolleyes: Good luck on your Dom ;) peace

Action Jackson
09-22-2005, 10:20 AM
Shows how much ive been keepin track after the Shattering Davis Cup lost!!! :tape: I beta leave while its SAFE!!! :rolleyes:

The Aussies are in the World Group for 2006 and nothing to worry about in that regard.

Action Jackson
09-22-2005, 10:21 AM
Beck and Coria first that match is going to be huge and just hope Coria can do the job here and if he can it will give them a huge platform.

MonikaVa
09-22-2005, 10:57 AM
Beck and Coria first that match is going to be huge and just hope Coria can do the job here and if he can it will give them a huge platform.

You´re absoluty right. That is exactly where I hope the home crowd will help and maybe make Coria to loose his concentration a bit.

Action Jackson
09-22-2005, 11:02 AM
You´re absoluty right. That is exactly where I hope the home crowd will help and maybe make Coria to loose his concentration a bit.

I have my views on this, the thing is I hope for my sake that it doesn't go to the 5th match as a live rubber, though I just don't see Hrbaty losing to Coria, so the doubles will be even more important than usual.

sergiodc
09-22-2005, 01:36 PM
In fact Domino is an excelent DC player, but you must know Hrbaty isn't Llyeton Hewitt and Bratislava surface isn't Aussie Grass, Martinak-Beck are not even close to Hewitt-Arthurs as doubles couple (specially on fast surfaces). I think the key of our DC probabilities this year was in Australia, the worst and more difficut match to play with. Right now I objectively think Argentina will be front runner to win this tie.



I believe you haven´t seen Domino play in his hometown in his casa, because if you had you would be 100% sure he can beat anyone. That leaves only one point to win the tie and with Coria being not a happy camper when screamed at by fans of the other side, might help too. So pretty much expecting to see only bold heads of our DC Team by Monday.....

sergiodc
09-22-2005, 01:44 PM
You must know Hrbaty has never won a complete match over Guillermo Coria:

2003 Barcelona, Clay, R32 Spain Clay R32 Hrbaty 3 4(ret)
2002 Costa Do Sauipe, Hard, Q Brasil Hard Q Coria 6 2 6 4
2002 Prostejov, CH, Clay, Q Czech Republic Clay Q Coria 7 5 6 2
2002 Mallorca, Clay, R32 Spain Clay R32 Hrbaty 0 6 0 1 (ret)


Just head 2 head stats, but Hrabaty was a complete formed player in 2002, while Coria still growing.


I have my views on this, the thing is I hope for my sake that it doesn't go to the 5th match as a live rubber, though I just don't see Hrbaty losing to Coria, so the doubles will be even more important than usual.

MonikaVa
09-22-2005, 02:03 PM
In fact Domino is an excelent DC player, but you must know Hrbaty isn't Llyeton Hewitt and Bratislava surface isn't Aussie Grass, Martinak-Beck are not even close of Hewitt-Arthurs as doubles couple (specially on fast surfaces). I think the key of our DC probabilities this year was in Australia, the worst and more difficut match to play with. Right now I objectively think Argentina will be front runner to win this tie.

He is for not Lleyton Hewitt, but again, when playing at home he is giving the impression there is no way he can loose. And as for the doubles, I wasn´t convinced myself watching them play that they would win against Holland, but did. I think they gained some confidence this year that was missing before.

Still Argentina is probably the toughest team in DC right now, but we all heard here the same statements before the tie with Spain, so we will see tommorow....

Scotso
09-22-2005, 02:20 PM
Goooooo Karol! :bounce:

Hendu
09-22-2005, 03:34 PM
You must know Hrbaty has never won a complete match over Guillermo Coria:

2003 Barcelona, Clay, R32 Spain Clay R32 Hrbaty 3 4(ret)
2002 Costa Do Sauipe, Hard, Q Brasil Hard Q Coria 6 2 6 4
2002 Prostejov, CH, Clay, Q Czech Republic Clay Q Coria 7 5 6 2
2002 Mallorca, Clay, R32 Spain Clay R32 Hrbaty 0 6 0 1 (ret)


Just head 2 head stats, but Hrabaty was a complete formed player in 2002, while Coria still growing.

They played against each other in January 2005 (in the Hopman Cup), Hrbaty won 6-4 6-1.
In that match Hrbaty dominated Coria at will.

User id 7816
09-22-2005, 03:43 PM
hide those scissors away, eslovacos, you shall not need them ;)

sergiodc
09-22-2005, 03:45 PM
I'm aware of that, but u'd know Hopman Cup is an exibition tournament, just a practice. Even Coria was coming from his shoulder surgery (after 5 months with no tennis at all). So Guillermo "dominated Safin at will" or "Hrbaty over Guillermo" this year at Hopman... doesn't mean so much to me.
Hopman=Hard Practice. Nobody takes injury risks there.

They played against each other in January 2005 (in the Hopman Cup), Hrbaty won 6-4 6-1.
In that match Hrbaty dominated Coria at will.

sergiodc
09-22-2005, 04:05 PM
...Nalbandian-Coria performance on fast surfaces are far from Verdasco-Lopez. IMO Argentina has better allaround players than Spain.
Slovak-Spain match was on the early seasson, but now we are afterwards Flushing Meadows and fast surfaces seasson. Surface acclimatizing isn't the same. Argentina defeated Aussies cuz of grass tournaments well performed by Guille and Nalba just before DC match in Sydney. A hard training on each surface is always needed to fight on the road.

He is for not Lleyton Hewitt, but again, when playing at home he is giving the impression there is no way he can loose. And as for the doubles, I wasn´t convinced myself watching them play that they would win against Holland, but did. I think they gained some confidence this year that was missing before.

Still Argentina is probably the toughest team in DC right now, but we all heard here the same statements before the tie with Spain, so we will see tommorow....

Hendu
09-22-2005, 05:57 PM
Hopman=Hard Practice. Nobody takes injury risks there.

Thats true.

But if you remember that match, then you know Hrbaty's level of play when playing for his country.

Not only the one in the Hopman Cup, but all those previous matches you posted have little relevance for the Davis Cup, specially when talking about a player like Hrbaty.

sergiodc
09-22-2005, 06:51 PM
Agree with that, mine was just a reference about history...
But head 2 head and past "ghosts" mean in tennis quite more than other sports, mental factor, how to handle under pressure, is a must and can easily become a hard stigma to fight against. The mind war somethimes is harder than the tennis one. Not just skills.
Anyway, Hrbaty is a great, tough and proven DC player.



all those previous matches you posted have little relevance for the Davis Cup, specially when talking about a player like Hrbaty.

Action Jackson
09-23-2005, 06:14 PM
You´re absoluty right. That is exactly where I hope the home crowd will help and maybe make Coria to loose his concentration a bit.

Well Beck made Coria into halusky in this match.

revolution
09-23-2005, 08:21 PM
Argentina look like the most well balanced DC team around atm, they have more than just clay courters, and when Canas returns (if he does) that will be strengthened.

keqtqiadv
09-24-2005, 11:52 AM
Beck and Mertinak need a win to make things easier on Sunday. Argentina has a great advantage with Nalbandian playing well.

MonikaVa
09-24-2005, 05:29 PM
Beck and Mertinak need a win to make things easier on Sunday. Argentina has a great advantage with Nalbandian playing well.

Just returned home from the doubles and we have WON in straigh sets. (7:6, 7:5, 7:5). Michal and Beckis played great, though the first set was really hard won. Some of Nalbandians returnes were just plain terrific. But still it is now 2:1 for Slovakia. So if Domino can crack Coria our DC team will be hairless by Monday.

User id 7816
09-24-2005, 06:27 PM
WOW.
ok, the dramas are complete now.

MonikaVa
09-25-2005, 04:05 PM
SLOVAKIA WON AGAINST ARGENTINA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Domino finished what Beckys and Michal started yeasterday and won against Coria in straight sets. DC finals will be in NTC in Bratislava against Crotia!
GO SLOVAKIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!§

jole
09-25-2005, 06:04 PM
SLOVAKIA WON AGAINST ARGENTINA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Domino finished what Beckys and Michal started yeasterday and won against Coria in straight sets. DC finals will be in NTC in Bratislava against Crotia!
GO SLOVAKIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!§

Go Slovakia!!

Filipo
09-25-2005, 07:08 PM
Coria had sucked :(

keqtqiadv
09-25-2005, 07:56 PM
Haha, Great win for Slovakia.

keqtqiadv
09-25-2005, 08:20 PM
And final surface? What will be Slovakian choice?

MonikaVa
09-28-2005, 09:56 AM
And final surface? What will be Slovakian choice?

What is being said here in media by the players themselves and the head of the Slovak tennis federation that they want the venue for the DC finals to be again the Sibamac Arena in the National Tennis Centre in Bratislava (NTC). Eventhough that the Arena has place for only 4.500 people, they want to stay there since all of them know every corner of it, feel at home there (I heard that Karol Beck lives just round corner from NTC).
They mentioned the surface in media interviews few times and it seems to be the same as against Holland in quarters.