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Ashes Cricket Thread

bad gambler
06-13-2005, 08:14 AM
Well the England tour officially kicks of with the Twenty20 match today, England v Australia so its high time we have this thread.


My first play is Australia to win the Ashes - $1.45 (20 units)

I just can not see how England can beat the Aussie juggernaut, Australia are simply better in every department with the exception of a quality all rounder. Granted England have had a great past 2 years, they have not faced anyone in the same class of Australia.

This is the best team Australia have sent to England since the invincibles in 1948, big call but thats my opionion. Batting is all class, look for a kid by the name of Michael Clarke to have a big series batting at no5. England would not have seen much of him but this guy can play, he has all the shots in the book, has the quickest footwork I have seen of any batsman for a while and has had experience playing in England conditions after playing county cricket last year. The other batsman dont really need any explanation, Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Martyn, Gilchrist all world class batsman. When you got Gilly coming in at no 7, got to be discouraginf gor the poms, he tore them apart last ashes in england in 2001, more of the same to come.

Bowling department, Australia have the best opening bowling partnership in McGrath and Gillespie. All this talk about McGrath being too old is rubbish, his past year proves that. Gillespie is an underrated bowler, he not only has the pace but is extremely accurate, a potent combination. First change will be Kasprowicz who has had his best 2 years in test cricket past 2 years. Further he has had many years playing county cricket which is an added advantage and his style is well suited in the English conditions. Finally there is Shane Warne. He has lost a lot of his zip these days, but still can be an effective bowler as he now relies on subtle variations as opposed to those ripping leg breaks. He will still pose a threat, albeit in a reduced role this series.

I have also played the series result, being Australia to win 3-1, pays $6.50 (3 units). England always pinch a test match, most likely after the series is decided and I have also accounted for Englands bad weather to wash out a test match as well.

Bring on the misery for the Poms :cool:

Finns4
06-13-2005, 07:30 PM
England will be more than competitive this ashes series, im placin small wage on drawn series.

Yoda
06-14-2005, 09:03 AM
Money on the bloody Aussies....can't see England going toe to toe with 'em for 5 days.

Harmison, Flintoff and Jones maybe a handful....but not on all the test grounds.
3-1 sounds just about right. :cool:

bad gambler
06-19-2005, 08:52 AM
Ok so after the humiliation after the loss against the Bangers, attention turns to teh big match against England. If you believe all the hype, England have already won the One day Series and the Ashes. Granted the Aussies have been pitiful thus far this tour, form is temporary, class is permananet. They will be up for it today, after the slamming they have copped by both the Pommy and Australian media, coupled with the fact that they are offered odds greater tha $1.50, got to take it.

19th June ODI

Australia to beat England - $1.70 (5 units)

Cmon lads, how about we start playing some cricket :rolleyes:

Yoda
06-19-2005, 09:12 AM
Pounded the Aussies @ $1.77. :cool:

Win\win situation :p

adk
06-19-2005, 09:19 AM
Pounded the Aussies @ $1.77. :cool:

Win\win situation :p

Same here dude. They're not going to want to be humiliated again, although losing to England isn't on the same scale.

We're so patriotic! :rolleyes:

bad gambler
06-19-2005, 09:01 PM
That will do me, I got done by a south african

Lalitha
06-21-2005, 05:41 AM
I heard a different story on TV - Aussies lost! :eek: :eek:

For a change why don't we say Poms won!, it doesn't happens so often - isn't it ;)

Doctor Dance
06-21-2005, 05:47 AM
Well as an Indian, I am really happy Australia are playing badly, and even lost to Bangladesh

They can now join the club, India did it as well :haha:

Lalitha
06-21-2005, 06:57 AM
If anyone wants to make any world record - please play India.

I just wonder what would happend to our Indian team if every country starts playing cricket - like tennis. With only a handful of countries playing the game - we always stay at the bottom half most of the time.

Doctor Dance
06-23-2005, 02:56 AM
For me small bet on Australia to beat England today in the one day cricket match.

bad gambler
07-24-2005, 01:52 AM
Only rain and injuries to warne and McGrath are going to save the poms this series :cool:

AceMaan
07-31-2005, 02:49 AM
really dangerous to underestimate England.....they are a pretty good side nowadays with Tresco, Strauss, Flintoff, Vaughen and Pieterson.....they have a good opening and middle order.......bowling they have Harmison, Hoggard to spearhead....so they are not with without fire power......gone were the banker Australia days

bad gambler
08-04-2005, 09:43 AM
With the late news of McGrath's injury during warm up, I feel the draw is the best option at $3.50 with also the weather forecast in mind. Further, Edgbaston is a ground where if you can see of fhte first hour, you can really make some serious runs

Playing Draw @ $3.50 ( 5 units)

good luck

harvey
08-04-2005, 10:00 AM
With the late news of McGrath's injury during warm up, I feel the draw is the best option at $3.50 with also the weather forecast in mind. Further, Edgbaston is a ground where if you can see of fhte first hour, you can really make some serious runs

Playing Draw @ $3.50 ( 5 units)

good luck

this one should be all about the toss.
if england win it and if tres and strauss can get 50-100 op partnership i think they'll do it. think pitch will be in bits by sunday

AceMaan
08-04-2005, 10:38 AM
took England first session under 77.5.....@1.83......very slow pitch and England batting very cautiously

AceMaan
08-04-2005, 10:44 AM
damn just when i put my bet England whacking now 17 for 0.....looks like my wager is all but over

harvey
08-04-2005, 10:44 AM
dont think so...nothing in the pitch..eng already 17 runs up after 3 overs

AceMaan
08-04-2005, 10:44 AM
damn just when i put my bet England whacking now 17 for 0.....looks like my wager is all but over

....sorry correction....it is all over

AceMaan
08-04-2005, 10:49 AM
Australi odds are now at 1.91....very very very tempting!

AceMaan
08-04-2005, 10:54 AM
now up to 2.00 already..............England at 26 for 0

harvey
08-04-2005, 11:31 AM
hold off for a bit i'd say ...vaughan is back in form and next in..
why did ponting bowl on a batting surface that will dry up in the next few days, and when he lost his main/best op bowler?

bad gambler
08-04-2005, 11:32 AM
hold off for a bit i'd say ...vaughan is back in form and next in..
why did ponting bowl on a batting surface that will dry up in the next few days, and when he lost his main/best op bowler?
no complaints from me, the draw is being backed right in now :)

bad gambler
08-04-2005, 11:33 AM
Ponting has most definitely lost his mind

your best fast bowler gets injured, so you would think you bat first, make a big score and let warne rip on a 4th innings pitch :confused:

harvey
08-04-2005, 01:35 PM
not sure BG - weather will have to play a big part or au will need a really good 1st inns, eng are scoring at over 5 an over..ooh.. tres gone

bad gambler
08-04-2005, 01:36 PM
McGrath out for the rest of the series :sad:

Tait better get his boots ready becuase i think he will be making his debut soon...

sports freak
08-05-2005, 03:30 AM
McGrath out for the rest of the series :sad:

Tait better get his boots ready becuase i think he will be making his debut soon...

Damn our chief destroyer is out,ur draw maybe looking ok!!!!The pitch looks like a batsmen paradise!!!!Aussies will look to score 500+ maybe 600 if they can!!!

Lalitha
08-06-2005, 04:02 PM
McGrath out for the rest of the series :sad:

Tait better get his boots ready becuase i think he will be making his debut soon...

I read in papers today that Mcgrath might play the 4th match.

AceMaan
08-11-2005, 02:23 PM
England 162 for 1.....and the odds for England win is 2.50...their run rate also very good at 4.02....................think the bookies i really really underestimating England....jumping on this one and placing the huge wager on an England win

bad gambler
08-11-2005, 02:26 PM
England 162 for 1.....and the odds for England win is 2.50...their run rate also very good at 4.02....................think the bookies i really really underestimating England....jumping on this one and placing the huge wager on an England win


draw would be the best bet - can't see australia collapsing twice in 2 innings

disclaimer: i don't have access to watching this match at the moment, so can't really comment on how good/poorly australia are bowling

AceMaan
08-11-2005, 05:17 PM
draw would be the best bet - can't see australia collapsing twice in 2 innings

disclaimer: i don't have access to watching this match at the moment, so can't really comment on how good/poorly australia are bowling

hi bg how's everything going ....now englend 300 for 3......and odds still at 2.50.........this is pure madness............i mean is the england bowling with Hoggard, Harmison and Flintoff that crappy.............England fans what's your say man???

AceMaan
08-11-2005, 05:25 PM
england are 307 for 3 and they still can be found at 2.70 with bet365........this is really crazy i........i mwan Australia are good but looking at the odds given they are impliying that Austalia are like gods or somethign......i mean at this rate England are looking ar 500+ score and they could probaBLY bowl austalia out for350 ....opinnions anyone?

sports freak
08-11-2005, 05:34 PM
england are 307 for 3 and they still can be found at 2.70 with bet365........this is really crazy i........i mwan Australia are good but looking at the odds given they are impliying that Austalia are like gods or somethign......i mean at this rate England are looking ar 500+ score and they could probaBLY bowl austalia out for350 ....opinnions anyone?

Rain is forcused for Day 4 and 5!!!just letting you know bro!!!

England around 2.80 and the draw around 2.40!!!!!

AceMaan
08-11-2005, 05:51 PM
England 334 for 4...........i can almost guarantee you that if Vaughan was offered this score.........he would have sold his sold his mother into prostitution for this! (nooffence intended...just want to highlight the intensity of the situation!)

sports freak
08-11-2005, 06:07 PM
England 334 for 4...........i can almost guarantee you that if Vaughan was offered this score.........he would have sold his sold his mother into prostitution for this! (nooffence intended...just want to highlight the intensity of the situation!)

Correction, 5 out!!!Brett Lee knock off stump last ball !!!! :rolleyes:

sports freak
08-15-2005, 09:25 AM
1O units on Aussies 1.73 to hold of a draw against England,damn this is good price for a pitch thats not help the bowlers and the batters are getting more comfortable further in the test which usually is opposite!!!

Aussie line up to strong and depth and i have faith they willl hold out the English attack,Giles was the danger man but since Warne wasnt as effective,i believe Giles will be the same,Go Aussies

bad gambler
08-16-2005, 06:32 AM
well at least my intial bet on Australia winning the Ashes is still alive, just...

adee-gee
08-24-2005, 12:04 AM
well at least my intial bet on Australia winning the Ashes is still alive, just...

Not for long bro....Trent Bridge is gonna suit the England bowlers down to the ground. Plus I just heard Mcgrath is struggling with an elbow injury. Props to you for finally making the incredibly tough decision of dropping Jesus, how he lasted 3 tests I'll never know.

sports freak
08-24-2005, 06:36 AM
Not for long bro....Trent Bridge is gonna suit the England bowlers down to the ground. Plus I just heard Mcgrath is struggling with an elbow injury. Props to you for finally making the incredibly tough decision of dropping Jesus, how he lasted 3 tests I'll never know.

Whats the reason for the ground suiting more for the England bowlers?is it the bounce or is it more swing in it??Dont forget Lee can reverse swing!!!Havent heard any news on Glen but hope his right to go,very crucial ingredient!!!Dizzy got dropped,havent heard this news but will look it up more!!!!my thoughts are Kasper to come back in but who knows whats going on!!!Shaun Tait might be too much of a gamble for this moment of the series where everything is on the line!!!Test match cricket doesnt get better then this and only one more day to go b4 the fireworks begin!!!!

bad gambler
08-24-2005, 09:58 AM
Whats the reason for the ground suiting more for the England bowlers?is it the bounce or is it more swing in it??Dont forget Lee can reverse swing!!!Havent heard any news on Glen but hope his right to go,very crucial ingredient!!!Dizzy got dropped,havent heard this news but will look it up more!!!!my thoughts are Kasper to come back in but who knows whats going on!!!Shaun Tait might be too much of a gamble for this moment of the series where everything is on the line!!!Test match cricket doesnt get better then this and only one more day to go b4 the fireworks begin!!!!

Tait is in, Pigeon is pretty much out so bowling line up looking like:

Kaspar
Lee
Tait
Warne

Australia won't lose this test, going to be a draw or a win :p

bad gambler
08-24-2005, 09:58 AM
Not for long bro....Trent Bridge is gonna suit the England bowlers down to the ground.

not if flash ash bowls more overs ;)

Action Jackson
08-24-2005, 10:01 AM
I do miss Alec Stewart saying in his manly voice "Bowlin Crofty".

At least England have a Welshman that can bowl.

bad gambler
08-24-2005, 10:02 AM
I do miss Alec Stewart saying in his manly voice "Bowlin Crofty".

At least England have a Welshman that can bowl.


and a couple of south africans that can bat

Action Jackson
08-24-2005, 10:04 AM
and a couple of south africans that can bat

Well one of them has lived in England for most of his life, but hey at least they are a decent team, though I think Vaughan erred in the last match a bit.

sports freak
08-24-2005, 04:40 PM
Tait is in, Pigeon is pretty much out so bowling line up looking like:

Kaspar
Lee
Tait
Warne

Australia won't lose this test, going to be a draw or a win :p

I like Aussies win more then the draw,abit of sparks fly wit Lee and Tait comin at ya!!!! :rolleyes:

skel1983
08-24-2005, 04:53 PM
England will not win the Ashes the media have got ahead of themselves once again, ala England euro 2004!!!!!

I mean we need to win 2 out of two matches against the Aussies can someone tell me the last time we did that, we missed the boat last test match, still can't believe we didn't win that!!!

There is no chance we will get the ashes back me might well win one of the two remaining tests but i am certain the Aussies will win one of the two, that's all they need to do.

Thank God Andrew Symonds is not in the team are the Aussie selectors BLIND!!!! this guy is amazing he has played best cricket in county cricket this summer in England, if i was the Oz Katich out Symonds in would possibly seal the ashes for you!!!

adee-gee
08-24-2005, 05:45 PM
England need to win 1 and draw 1, its more than possible.

Weather in England has been shocking the last few days, draw looks the standout bet at 2.50. Then England to win the 5th test and bring back the Ashes :p

adee-gee
08-24-2005, 05:48 PM
and a couple of south africans that can bat

Sounds like you Aussies are getting a bit worried :)

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 10:36 AM
Andrew Symonds the Al Jolson lookalike is not a test player.

England have won the toss and are batting.

sports freak
08-25-2005, 10:42 AM
Andrew Symonds the Al Jolson lookalike is not a test player.

England have won the toss and are batting.

Exactly!!!! :worship: :worship:

Lets go Aussies!!!!

bad gambler
08-25-2005, 10:47 AM
Sounds like you Aussies are getting a bit worried :)

What is worrying is that Australia are playing at about 60% and still drawing this series 1-1, they have basically one player in Warne who is doing all the bowling and batting

But credit to the poms, they have played well, I just want to see the Australians play at full capacity, then it will really become interesting

Players like gilly and hayden need to step it up

bad gambler
08-25-2005, 10:51 AM
Thank God Andrew Symonds is not in the team are the Aussie selectors BLIND!!!! this guy is amazing he has played best cricket in county cricket this summer in England, if i was the Oz Katich out Symonds in would possibly seal the ashes for you!!!
There are about 5 players who deserve a spot in the test team before we even consider someone like symonds

He had his token couple of test appearances, should be happy with that

skel1983
08-25-2005, 11:10 AM
Andrew Symonds the Al Jolson lookalike is not a test player.

England have won the toss and are batting.

I beg to differ if Symonds played he would be coming in at 6, which is a sort of a pinch hitters role, and test cricket is moving on in a big way average run rate per over is rising gradually, He is in awesome form since joining Lancs, he has played 3 first class matches and scored 446 runs, he is ideal for the Aussies, if he is not a test player what about Pietersen and Flintoff??? are they not??? the Posistion Symonds would be coming in to bat down the order he would be ideal, most you Aussies obviously haven't seen him play this summer he is the best import to hit these shore's this year.

I would have him in over kATICH(I look like a scared little rabbit when i go out to bat)

skel1983
08-25-2005, 11:11 AM
There are about 5 players who deserve a spot in the test team before we even consider someone like symonds

He had his token couple of test appearances, should be happy with that

Like who tell me who is playing better Cricket than this guy at the moment???

bad gambler
08-25-2005, 11:27 AM
Like who tell me who is playing better Cricket than this guy at the moment???

Fair enough he is playing good cricket, but you are basing form on county cricket which is hardly the most competitve cricket going around.

Mike Hussey, Marcus North, Phil Jacques are names to should be ahead of Symonds, and I'm basing this on domestic Australian form and from what I have seen with my own eyes

Symonds has been around for ages in sheffield shield/pura cup and has done absolutely nothing in the first class arena. He was lucky to get his two tests when the selectors dropped Katich in sri lanka after his last test performances against India in Sydney yielded him a 100 odd and a 70 odd not out.

Of course one dayers is totally different, he would be the first one picked IMO

skel1983
08-25-2005, 11:32 AM
Hussey and North are different sort of players who would be coming in up the order, i feel Katich should be dropped and Symonds would be ideal replacement, i know he has been around along time but for me he has only started playing good cricket in last couple of years, probably since world cup 03!!

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 11:46 AM
The Aussies have the no ball disease.

So what Symonds is a good fieldsman, but he would be struggling against good bowling and one dayers are different, but Flintoff is a much better bowler than Symonds could ever hope to be.

skel1983
08-25-2005, 12:00 PM
The Aussies have the no ball disease.

So what Symonds is a good fieldsman, but he would be struggling against good bowling and one dayers are different, but Flintoff is a much better bowler than Symonds could ever hope to be.


Good fieldsman??? what you talking about??? Bowling what are you talking about???

I am talking about his BATTING, he is a better batsman than Flintoff and even his Lancs captain S Law agree's with that, he is in tremendous form and could easily transform one day form ala Kevin Pietersen.

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 12:03 PM
Good fieldsman??? what you talking about??? Bowling what are you talking about???

I am talking about his BATTING, he is a better batsman than Flintoff and even his Lancs captain S Law agree's with that, he is in tremendous form and could easily transform one day form ala Kevin Pietersen.

He isn't better than any of the guys gambler mentioned earlier he isn't any better than Hussey or North and can't adapt his game. As I said Symonds can't play good bowling consistently and he'd be struggling like the rest of the batting except for Warne.

Obviously you have missed the point, that there needs to be balance and in the test side, but I don't care I don't go for the Aussies, but he is not the level of Pietersen.

skel1983
08-25-2005, 12:24 PM
He isn't better than any of the guys gambler mentioned earlier he isn't any better than Hussey or North and can't adapt his game. As I said Symonds can't play good bowling consistently and he'd be struggling like the rest of the batting except for Warne.

Obviously you have missed the point, that there needs to be balance and in the test side, but I don't care I don't go for the Aussies, but he is not the level of Pietersen.

Please George come back when you know what you are talking about, firstly Pietersen is on another level to Symonds, nearly fell off my chair laughing!!!!!

Obviously Symonds has not got a ranking in test cricket because he hasn't played for so long, but if you check the One day rankings you will see they seem to to not agree with your views.

Symonds ranked 10 in the world- Pietersen ranked 14 (different level some how i don't think so!!!!)

At the moment in county cricket which obviously is not the same standard as test cricket, but saying that your form at this level goes when deciding weather or not you are selected for test cricket, so is quite a strong factor, Symonds heads the batting avaerages ahead of Hussey and North, maybe not a true indicator until end of the season but on current form, which for me is vital he is playing the best cricket in England.

(Still recovering from the Pietersen different level joke ha ha ha ha!!! that was a good one!!)

Alistair
08-25-2005, 02:41 PM
As much as I love giving it to the Poms for having South Africans in their side, it hurts to look at the Wallabies and see how many non-Aussies we have in there. It hurts even more that we suck.

Yoel and co.
08-25-2005, 02:45 PM
Can someone explain to me (an ignorant follower) how come there are non-Aussies in an Australian national team?

skel1983
08-25-2005, 02:46 PM
yes and could you name them for me???

Alistair
08-25-2005, 03:27 PM
yes and could you name them for me???

Certainly.

Number 2 - Jeremy Paul (New Zealand)
Number 4 - Radiki Samo (Fiji)
Number 5 - Dan Vickerman (South Africa)
Scrum half - George Gregan (Zambia)
Winger - Lote Tuquiri (Samoa)
Winger - Clyde Rathbone (South Africa)

skel1983
08-25-2005, 04:27 PM
Certainly.

Number 2 - Jeremy Paul (New Zealand)
Number 4 - Radiki Samo (Fiji)
Number 5 - Dan Vickerman (South Africa)
Scrum half - George Gregan (Zambia)
Winger - Lote Tuquiri (Samoa)
Winger - Clyde Rathbone (South Africa)


I see you swung me big time there one minute the ashes the next Rugby Union to quick for me, Wallabies was probably the clue, but i thought we were talking about cricket??

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 05:21 PM
My wager on the draw is looking good :D

Prabs are you still sticking by your quote that "Pieterson is nothing but a slogger".

Vaughan has been pretty lucky in his innings, some of the strokes he's played have been out of this world, but Hayden's catch was a sitter and he's had a few other let-offs. Tait looked awful the first few hours but his delivery to get Tresco out was a corker. Brett Lee's looked quite dangerous without much reward.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 05:45 PM
Jesus Vaughan, I thought getting out to Katich was bad but getting out to Ponting has to be pretty embarassing :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
08-26-2005, 01:10 PM
Flintoff and Jones have consolidated for England and they need 400 at the very worst, but apart from Bell they have all got starts and not gone with it and Vaughan's dismissal was so soft.

bad gambler
08-26-2005, 01:57 PM
if australia can't bat out a draw on this pitch, they really don't deserve to retain the ashes

well played by flintoff by the way

adee-gee
08-26-2005, 05:45 PM
:bigwave: Aussies

Yoel and co.
08-26-2005, 05:53 PM
I betted on Filntoff before the game to be the Man of the Match @13. What are my chances of winning?

adee-gee
08-26-2005, 06:07 PM
Very good. Unless Hoggard gets a few more wickets.

bad gambler
08-26-2005, 10:30 PM
and all this time I thought Australia can't play any worse, they keep suprising me

rain better not intervene in this match for the remainder as it would be a complete injustice if it stops the poms from winning this test - they have easily been the better team this series and deserve to win.

and if they do go on to win this match, they have regained the ashes IMO and are the new number 1 in test cricket

it is the end of an era

adee-gee
08-26-2005, 10:31 PM
and all this time I thought Australia can't play any worse, they keep suprising me

rain better not intervene in this match for the remainder as it would be a complete injustice if it stops the poms from winning this test - they have easily been the better team this series and deserve to win.

and if they do go on to win this match, they have regained the ashes IMO and are the new number 1 in test cricket

it is the end of an era

Mate are you sure you're an Aussie? :worship:

bad gambler
08-26-2005, 10:34 PM
Mate are you sure you're an Aussie? :worship:


given the aussies are getting pounded at the moment, I have switched to being an Indian :p

Mirza going to win the tournament in Forrst Hills this week :cool:

adee-gee
08-26-2005, 10:37 PM
:lol: mind you the Indians got a bit of a hammering today, 40 odd for 8 they were at one point I think.

By the way, I think the Aussies top batsmen got out on purpose, they were scared at the prospect of facing the King of Spin later in the innings :p

Gilko's gonna hit a century tomorrow, mark my words.

Lalitha
08-27-2005, 02:32 AM
How badly did India lost yesterday?

bad gambler
08-27-2005, 02:37 AM
How badly did India lost yesterday?


very badly - they had no idea against bond :(

Action Jackson
08-27-2005, 09:14 AM
Shane Bond is a gun bowler and it's very sad his career has been wrecked by injuries. He gave the Aussies fits when he last played here and they should have won that series, bowls a mean yorker as well.

I just hope Vaughan can keep the pressure up and the English have been very good in the last 3 matches, but watch Warne show the batsmen how to do it again.

adee-gee
08-27-2005, 11:16 AM
:wavey: Katich, good work Jonesy.

Gilchrists still in, watch him get the century I predicted ;)

adee-gee
08-27-2005, 11:28 AM
Oh my god this is chaos, what a catch from Straussy to get rid of Gilchrist. The Aussies are all over the place :haha:

Aleksa's Laydee
08-27-2005, 11:30 AM
Oh my god this is chaos, what a catch from Straussy to get rid of Gilchrist. The Aussies are all over the place :haha:

Bloody Awesome stuff eh :worship: :worship: :worship:

adee-gee
08-27-2005, 11:47 AM
Bloody Awesome stuff eh :worship: :worship: :worship:

Certainly is, Brett Lee is the only Aussie with any fight today! :eek:

Aleksa's Laydee
08-27-2005, 12:09 PM
:haha:YOUR FOLLOWING ON AUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIES!!! :bounce: :bounce:

*this is amazing stuff* Jones got 5-44 :eek: wow!!!

adee-gee
08-27-2005, 12:14 PM
:lol: get back into bat Aussies.

Lee's little knock at the end there was rather entertaining, I almost wanted it to contiune. Great stuff from Jonesy though, lets hope he can skittle them out again. The main man didn't even get a chance to bowl the Aussies were out so quickly!

bad gambler
08-27-2005, 12:37 PM
australia will score 550 and bowl the poms out for 150 to win the match

Aleksa's Laydee
08-27-2005, 01:28 PM
australia will score 550 and bowl the poms out for 150 to win the match
you wish :haha:

gooner88
08-27-2005, 02:17 PM
England have been awesome from the Lords Test onwards, even more so at Trent Bridge.
The whole team's chipped in throughout the series and Freddie's been the matchwinner of the series so far.
I can't help but wonder why the Aussies have slipped so much; is it missing Mcgrath or are the team past it's peak. BTW Lee's batting this morning was great to watch.
Anyway England are in a very strong position, but I'm not gonna write the Aussies off just yet.

Yoel and co.
08-28-2005, 12:18 AM
Forgive me for boring you with two ignorant questions:

1) What needs to happen tomorrow (and/or Monday?) for England to win this match?

2) I know I brought this up before...but who do you think will take Man of the Match award? (see my previous post for my specific interest in this...)

bad gambler
08-28-2005, 12:24 AM
Forgive me for boring you with two ignorant questions:

1) What needs to happen tomorrow (and/or Monday?) for England to win this match?

2) I know I brought this up before...but who do you think will take Man of the Match award? (see my previous post for my specific interest in this...)


I'm not sure how familiar you are with the game, but I'll try and explain it as best as I can:

1) Currently Australia are 37 runs behind England, with 6 wickets in hand in their second innings. Once they wipe away that deficit, any run the score past 37 runs is one England have to score to win. So basically England have to take another 6 more Australian wickets, and once they do that, score whatever Australia set them.

2) At the moment I think you are sweet - Flintoff is the man of the match currently. However, cricket is a funny game and it only takes a massive Australian partnership, and someone scoring heaps for that to change. But for Flintoff NOT to get the award, the game would have to end in a draw or Australia win, both scenarios looking unlikely

But personally, I think England will win this match tomorrow, and Flintoff will be man of the match

Yoel and co.
08-28-2005, 12:28 AM
All prefectly clear now...thanks a lot :D

I will be trying to follow the action tomorrow (together with some other English folks...).

bad gambler
08-28-2005, 12:33 AM
However if Australia can set the poms around 200-250, then its game on

bad gambler
08-28-2005, 08:34 AM
England to win the 4th Test - $1.43 (10 units)

Time to recover some of the money I'm going to lose on my initial bet: Aus to win the Ashes

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 08:38 AM
Just hope England can get 3 or 4 early wickets and then end it, but something else will go down here, just hope weather isn't a factor.

Aleksa's Laydee
08-28-2005, 12:50 PM
5 more wickets before we can bat...cmon the english!!!

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 03:18 PM
:bigwave: Aussies, your boys are gonna get a hell of a rollicking from the Aussie press

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 03:26 PM
England can't catch and yet they'll still win this match.

bad gambler
08-28-2005, 03:36 PM
:bigwave: Aussies, your boys are gonna get a hell of a rollicking from the Aussie press


it already started yesterday

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 04:52 PM
Oh god this is getting a bit nervy. Why the hell are they being so negative against Warne, they're asking for trouble. 3 down, lets hope KP and Freddie can come and blast this match away :)

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 04:55 PM
:scared: Bell is gone now, if England blow this it'll be unreal

Aleksa's Laydee
08-28-2005, 06:31 PM
WE WIN!!!!!!!!! ENGLAND WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 06:36 PM
Holy crap that was too close for comfort :eek:

Warne and Lee were amazing today. I used to quite dislike Lee, but I've changed my mind he's been extremely sporting throughout the series.

Very nice that the Flash Ash got to hit the winning runs didnt you think BG :p

Bring on the 5th test!

Yoel and co.
08-28-2005, 06:53 PM
Flintoff man of the match :banana: :banana: :banana:

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 06:54 PM
Yeah fully deserved too. Congrats mate :yeah:

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 06:57 PM
England almost threw it away and the Aussies well I think some of the egoes might have to go down a bit by now.

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 07:01 PM
England almost threw it away and the Aussies well I think some of the egoes might have to go down a bit by now.

Unlikely can I suggest :o

gooner88
08-28-2005, 07:01 PM
Cmon England :woohoo:
England just had to make it sooooooooo difficult. Warney and Lee's bowling was top class.

BTW bad gambler, Gilo no longer sucks after scoring the winning runs. ;)
Long live Gilo, the King of Spain. :worship:

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 07:07 PM
Unlikely can I suggest :o

Nothing to brag about losing the Ashes is it?

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 07:40 PM
Nothing to brag about losing the Ashes is it?

No but Glenn McGrath and co are too up their own arses to care about the ashes :p

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 07:42 PM
No but Glenn McGrath and co are too up their own arses to care about the ashes :p

McGrath said before the series they'd win 5-0, he better get used to pie.

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 07:45 PM
McGrath said before the series they'd win 5-0, he better get used to pie.

:haha: I forgot about that!

Didn't one of the Aussies also say that Giles wouldn't take a wicket in the series?

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 07:47 PM
:haha: I forgot about that!

Didn't one of the Aussies also say that Giles wouldn't take a wicket in the series?

I'll be giving them some stick this afternoon, but I know they don't rate the King of Spain who did it with the bat today.

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 07:52 PM
I'll be giving them some stick this afternoon, but I know they don't rate the King of Spain who did it with the bat today.

Giles isn't a patch on Warne (then again, who is), but I must say he does take some big wickets. And he can bat a bit.

The real difference in the Ashes has been the bowling. England have had 5 bowlers who have all chipped in with wickets in Harmy, Hoggard, Freddie, Jones and Giles. Vaughan knows if things aren't going well he has options. Ponting has had virtually nothing to work with. Lee and Warne have both bowled very well I think. McGrath has done his usual solid work but he's clearly not fit. Other than these 3 the Aussies have had nothing, Kasper and Jesus (Gillespie) simply aren't good enough. Haven't seen enough of this Tait to have an opinion but he didn't overly impress me and he was hauled off after about 3 overs today, which suggest Ponters doesn't have too much faith.

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 07:57 PM
Ponting has been too negative and that's good for me.

Well Hayden is a fraud and always has been. When he started Donald owned him and struggled against Ambrose when he was 5 yrs past his best. Now the English have a good bowling side, he has been found out again. He hasn't adjusted to the particular conditions.

Tait has a lot of potential and actually overall he did alright in this test, he has very good pace and can move it both ways, an attacking bowler so he'll go for runs, he's far from the problem.

McGrath is a slightly cheaper version of Ambrose, but stilll one of the best going, but he has got a bit of stick this time around.

adee-gee
08-28-2005, 08:04 PM
I agree Ponting has been a bit negative. Today he had England on the ropes and had 1 slip which I thought was criminal, especially when they were bowling at tailenders.

I must say, Hayden has never really impressed me a huge amount. He seems to get all his big scores against the weaker sides. Mind you, an average of above 50 is bloody good so maybe I'm being a bit harsh.

I've been disappointed with Gilchrist this series. He's always been one of my favourite players but he's had a shocker of a series, with bat and behind the stumps. Every time he comes to the crease I'm expecting something special but he hasn't really produced.

McGrath is still class, I can't criticise him apart from I think he's an arrogant git. Him and Warne still have a mental edge over Englands top order. I think the Ashes swung in Englands favour when he got himself injured.

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 08:11 PM
The problem is that there aren't many good bowlers these days and that's why many batsmen have such inflated averages, that over 50 doesn't mean as much as it should.

The rules were changed to stop the West Indies and it's a batsmen's game, pitches are flatter, less bouncers. I remember when I had the rules of cricket explained to me, by some very intelligent guys and when I saw it for the first time. Even the other teams up to the mid 80s had good bowlers, it's just the WIndies were better than everyone.

As for Gilchrist, well Flintoff owns him and it was Wasim Akram past his best showed a chink in the armour and he has been so good for so long, a lower series was going to happen.

Actually the England batsmen have been aggressive and that has helped them, normally they aren't doing that and that helps, sure Warne has got wickets, but at least they are trying to take the initiative, which wasn't the same thing under Saddam Hussein.

Aleksa's Laydee
08-28-2005, 08:45 PM
Flintoff man of the match :banana: :banana: :banana:

Hes an awesome player!!

Aleksa's Laydee
08-28-2005, 08:46 PM
McGrath said before the series they'd win 5-0, he better get used to pie.

ooh how he was so wrong :woohoo:

bad gambler
08-29-2005, 12:07 AM
only england can nearly bottle such a chase

now the true test for the aussie selectors, lets see if they take their fingers out of their arses and finally pick the best team for the Oval test.

aIrSaMpRaS14
08-29-2005, 12:58 AM
only england can nearly bottle such a chase

hmm what are you on about? I though that was Australia's job, the notorious bad chasers.

Did you forget about Headingley 1981? you chased around 130 then.. and failed.. Oh yes that reminds me, what about 1998 at the MCG chasing 175 you were 103-2 and lost by 12 runs.

We actually completed our task! maybe you should think before you open your mouth and not look pretty silly.

You also say that you have been playing at "60%" and Hayden needs to perform.. in his 3 games against County sides he has scored two 70's and a 130. Our bowlers are just out playing your batsmen.. your not playing as bad as you think you are, the only thing that is making the matches closer than they should be is the class of the Australians and making their bowlers get them out of trouble with the bat.

Onwards to The Oval!

Gunner
08-29-2005, 02:03 AM
Well done to the england guys they desrve their plaudits but i like oz to bounce back by beating us in the next one warne and lee were simply amazing in that final last ditch attempt today to save them!

Doctor Dance
08-29-2005, 05:46 AM
wow i never thought I would be alive to see england winning the ashes :lol:


england are coming here soon to play india, we are going to get thrashed :rolleyes:

Yoel and co.
09-07-2005, 12:08 PM
Any bets for the final test match?

I carry on believing in Flintoff. Player to take the most wickets @ 7.00

skel1983
09-07-2005, 12:56 PM
Shane Warne man of the match!!!!

sports freak
09-08-2005, 09:57 AM
Come on Aussies backs to the wall expect them to come out firing!!!!The toss of the coin could be the most important moment of the series!!!Bat first and your definetely on the right foot!!!

Douggie Style
09-08-2005, 12:26 PM
Warne bowling well, has 3 for 27, off 7 overs

adee-gee
09-08-2005, 05:19 PM
This is getting worrying, 295-6 Strauss is single handedly keeping England alive (with a bit of help from Freddie earlier)

Action Jackson
09-08-2005, 05:20 PM
Bring on the rain.

adee-gee
09-08-2005, 05:24 PM
Bring on the rain.

:yeah:

Action Jackson
09-08-2005, 05:26 PM
:yeah:

Strauss is gone, well they will need to bowl well.

adee-gee
09-08-2005, 06:01 PM
Edging closer to 350, if they can get 350-400 it's still in the balance I'd say.

Action Jackson
09-08-2005, 06:03 PM
318-7 if they make 375 they won't lose this match.

adee-gee
09-08-2005, 06:04 PM
318-7 if they make 375 they won't lose this match.

:eek: I'm glad you're so confident!

bad gambler
09-09-2005, 04:32 AM
yep anything over 400 going to be tough for the aussies to win

sports freak
09-09-2005, 04:47 AM
yep anything over 400 going to be tough for the aussies to win

Wonder what the live score odds will be at the end of Englands 1st innings??could be some value in the Aussies!!look for the OZ bats to turn things around on beautiful batting strip and conditions!!!!No danger man Jones who was causing abit of havoc,although there was some good swing bowling from Hoggard and Freddie pitching it on the spot more often then not!!550 is the ideal target if only dreams come true!!!! ;) :rolleyes:

Finns4
09-09-2005, 05:04 AM
Man im still confused and piss off'd that that the Aussie selectors didnt play Macgill :S sooooooo stupid, he would of been a massive weapon in the 2nd inns

Yoel and co.
09-09-2005, 09:48 AM
Forcast for today is rain in the afternoon...

Yoel and co.
09-09-2005, 11:55 AM
373 all out

adee-gee
09-09-2005, 05:36 PM
Aussies off to a flyer, but rain calls a halt to procedings :D

bad gambler
09-10-2005, 12:23 AM
just heard something interesting on the radio - ponting may actually declare when they reach pommies score or maybe get a 50 odd run lead

looks like a few early showers, but fine for the rest of the test match - heaps of time for a result

bad gambler
09-10-2005, 12:28 AM
btw, hayden is a disgrace - its so obvious he was playing for himself and his career instead of the team's cause of scoring runs quickly

the pitch is a bloody highway, there is no excuse to be scratching around

adee-gee
09-10-2005, 12:38 AM
I couldn't believe they took the light, shocking decision. An extra hour or so could be invaluable

Yoel and co.
09-11-2005, 01:45 PM
Any bets for the final test match?

I carry on believing in Flintoff. Player to take the most wickets @ 7.00

Freddie doing well :)

Australia all out at 367, England lead by 6 runs

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 04:57 PM
ENGLAND ENGLAND!!!!!

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 04:59 PM
KP :bigcry:

adee-gee
09-12-2005, 05:19 PM
What an innings from KP :worship: ably assisted by the likes of the King Of Spain (who apparently sucked but has mysteriously disappeared from BG's avatar :p ) to clinch the Ashes. It was getting seriously worrying at one point.

Does anyone remember Steve Waugh saying to Hershelle Gibbs "How does it feel to drop the World Cup" when he dropped a sitter it in the Semi Final of the WC? England should be saying it to Warne for his drop on KP, the whole series has been played in such good spirits though. Shane running 30 yards to congratulate KP on his innings when he got out was a very nice touch :)

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 05:29 PM
Warne dropped the ashes when he dropped KP


KING OF SPAIN WE LOVE YOU!!!!

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 05:31 PM
What an innings from KP :worship: ably assisted by the likes of the King Of Spain (who apparently sucked but has mysteriously disappeared from BG's avatar :p ) to clinch the Ashes

Im sooooo happy it came back to bite him in the ass ;) :devil:

Peta Pan
09-12-2005, 05:34 PM
I've got tears in my eyes :woohoo:

KEVIN AND GILO I LOVE YOU

Who sucks now Prabu :devil: :p

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 05:36 PM
Pietersen did it when it counted and the King of Spain should be downing the cervezas tonight.

adee-gee
09-12-2005, 05:41 PM
:lol: the King of Spain is on fire!

adee-gee
09-12-2005, 05:47 PM
Shane gets a 5 wicket haul to end his Ashes career

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 05:50 PM
yet they will still bat :haha:

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 05:50 PM
Warne has been the best batsman and bowler for the Aussies.

sparkus8
09-12-2005, 05:53 PM
Too good guys, congratulations.

adee-gee
09-12-2005, 05:56 PM
How come Australians have become sporting all of a sudden :confused: :lol:

Peta Pan
09-12-2005, 05:57 PM
yet they will still bat :haha:
Need 19 runs an over :haha:

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 05:57 PM
318-7 if they make 375 they won't lose this match.

I love being proven right. :p

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 05:58 PM
How come Australians have become sporting all of a sudden :confused: :lol:

:haha: I was thinking that!!!

sparkus8
09-12-2005, 06:04 PM
Geez guys, try and be nice and still get rubbished :P

I guess I'll have to revert back to the normal unsporting Aussie behaviour and remind you about how good your soccer team is going just to bring you guys down a bit ;)

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 06:08 PM
Geez guys, try and be nice and still get rubbished :P

I guess I'll have to revert back to the normal unsporting Aussie behaviour and remind you about how good your soccer team is going just to bring you guys down a bit ;)

I wouldn't know I am not English :p

adee-gee
09-12-2005, 06:08 PM
Geez guys, try and be nice and still get rubbished :P

I guess I'll have to revert back to the normal unsporting Aussie behaviour and remind you about how good your soccer team is going just to bring you guys down a bit ;)

I'll have you know Scotland are doing very well at the moment :p

I took great pleasure out of the match when you guys beat England 3-1 :yeah:

Cricket is the only sport I quite like England in, because its the only one where their team isn't built around arseholes ;)

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 06:14 PM
WE'VE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the ashes are HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :woohoo:

adee-gee
09-12-2005, 06:18 PM
Awesome scenes :D

sports freak
09-12-2005, 06:19 PM
WE'VE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the ashes are HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :woohoo:
:mad: :fiery: :banghead: :bigcry: :sobbing: :sad:

fez
09-12-2005, 06:20 PM
don't be too smug you poms ;) ;)
it's not as if you outplayed the Aussies COMPREHENSIVELY

it was a close series

end of an era for alot of these AUS players though

the wheel turns
it's ENG time for now

sports freak
09-12-2005, 06:21 PM
WE'VE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the ashes are HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :woohoo:
:mad: :fiery: :banghead: :bigcry: :sobbing: :sad: :crying2: :tears:

Sjengster
09-12-2005, 07:00 PM
don't be too smug you poms ;) ;)
it's not as if you outplayed the Aussies COMPREHENSIVELY

it was a close series

end of an era for alot of these AUS players though

the wheel turns
it's ENG time for now

Yeah, but we did a little better than good old Glenn predicted, didn't we? :p And put it this way - you certainly didn't outplay us at all from the moment the first Test was over. ;)

Seriously though, it's been a great series and now that it's all over the crowd thankfully had enough class to applaud both teams heartily at the end.

Action Jackson
09-12-2005, 07:02 PM
Yes, Mr McGrath where was that 5-0 scoreline.

England outplayed the Aussies for 4 out of the 5 matches and clearly at that, lucky Warne was playing it would have been worse.

revolution
09-12-2005, 07:15 PM
Legends, the England cricket team. Our football nancy boys can learn a thing or two from Vaughan and co.

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 07:31 PM
Yes, Mr McGrath where was that 5-0 scoreline.

England outplayed the Aussies for 4 out of the 5 matches and clearly at that, lucky Warne was playing it would have been worse.

:haha: Soooo True!!!

Yoel and co.
09-12-2005, 09:16 PM
Flintoff was awesome all the time :worship:

KP had an unbelievable session this afternoon but I think man of the match should have gone to Warne

By the way, wasn't McGrath out for two matches? I wonder how different it would have been if he was 100% fit

Aleksa's Laydee
09-12-2005, 10:02 PM
Im going to the parade tomorrow :yippee:

Yoel and co.
09-12-2005, 10:37 PM
Im going to the parade tomorrow :yippee:

I'm going to work :mad:

bad gambler
09-13-2005, 11:29 AM
i don't care, i'm not an australian :lol:

but it was a good series and sport goes in cycles, no one or team will dominate forever so maybe now it's the poms turn :unsure:

got my tickets to the super series test match in October, look forward to it :)

Peta Pan
09-13-2005, 01:20 PM
i don't care, i'm not an australian :lol:
:haha: You are "C'mon Aussies", "Go Aussies" all series and suddenly you aren't Australian anymore :eek:

Ah well, does that mean Gilo doesn't suck anymore? and obviously you don't have to support Lleyton anymore either :D :D :D :yeah:

~EMiLiTA~
09-13-2005, 01:29 PM
congrats England...well deserved! special congrats to Freddie too :)

i so wish i could go to that super series in Sydney in October *sigh*

Aleksa's Laydee
09-13-2005, 04:06 PM
I was front row in Traffie Square and took over 100 photos :lol: absolutely awesome experience!!! :rocker2:

adee-gee
09-13-2005, 05:13 PM
I was front row in Traffie Square and took over 100 photos :lol: absolutely awesome experience!!! :rocker2:

It looked bloody good I would've quite liked to have gone but I was working :(

bad gambler
09-15-2005, 04:02 AM
at least freddie flintoff seems like a nice guy, though i find it difficult to understand him at times

PS: Yes i know, since Australia no longer have the ashes I need new means to do some pommy bashing :p

bad gambler
09-15-2005, 04:04 AM
:haha: You are "C'mon Aussies", "Go Aussies" all series and suddenly you aren't Australian anymore :eek:

Ah well, does that mean Gilo doesn't suck anymore? and obviously you don't have to support Lleyton anymore either :D :D :D :yeah:


I'm only an Australian when Australia does well :)

Gilo still sucks (though he did bat well) and I won't even reply to your last comment :nerner: