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Sweden VS Brasil scores

Springy
02-07-2003, 12:54 PM
when it starts?


:D go flavio!

bluepastures
02-07-2003, 02:38 PM
First set: Kuerten V Vinciguerra 6-1

Swedish crowd not really getting behind their man.

Layla
02-07-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by bluepastures
First set: Kuerten V Vinciguerra 6-1

Swedish crowd not really getting behind their man.

LOL! Poor Vinciguerra.

GO GUGA!!! :bounce:

Lee
02-07-2003, 03:16 PM
GO GUGA :bounce:

bluepastures
02-07-2003, 03:25 PM
Kuerten - Vinciguerra 6-1, 6-4

Guga's not been in any trouble on his serve at all.

renatoal
02-07-2003, 03:25 PM
Guga won the second set too ... 6-4

Now Brazil leads 6-1 6-4

Goooo Gugaaa !!!

Gooo Brazilll =))

bluepastures
02-07-2003, 03:28 PM
Good to see Guga wearing the national team kit too. Sweden are just wearing white shirts with Sverige (Swedish for Sweden) written on the back

renatoal
02-07-2003, 03:42 PM
Guga break Vinciguerra ... leads 3rd set *3-2 and serve

bluepastures
02-07-2003, 03:49 PM
4-3 to Kuerten. Certainly can't see Vinciguerra turning this around.

Lee
02-07-2003, 03:55 PM
Guga will be serving for the match. GO GUGA :bounce: Finish your job!

bluepastures
02-07-2003, 04:00 PM
Kuerten BEAT Vinciguerra 6-1, 6-4, 6-4

Guga didn't play well in the final game, missing a relatively straightforward smash. Excellent serving saved him

Lee
02-07-2003, 04:01 PM
:bounce: CONGRAT GUGA :bounce:

Layla
02-07-2003, 04:02 PM
Well done Guga! :bounce:

Lee
02-07-2003, 04:05 PM
Just check the stat. Guga fired 14 aces in 3 set and has won 93% of his first serve and 61% on second serve. He's on fire!

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 04:27 PM
It's all good Andreas, you'll do better against Sa :D

lin
02-07-2003, 04:41 PM
Guga :D :bounce:

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 04:49 PM
Are there no Sweeden fans around here?

tsk tsk...

Come on Bjorkman :D

Nimi
02-07-2003, 04:52 PM
Go Jonas :D
I'm not so updated on this tie.... Thomas & Thomas withdrew?

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 04:54 PM
The Thomases were injured :sad:

So they have Andreas as their second singles player which might have been a little more exciting a couple years ago befure his super slump.

Regardless, if it goes to a fifth rubber I like his chances against Sa.

Nimi
02-07-2003, 04:56 PM
So Jonas/Andreas vs. Andre/Guga?......

Go Sweden! But Go Guga....... Erm..... :D

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 04:59 PM
We'll allow Guga to win both his ties, as long as Sweeden wins the doubles and beats Sa ;)

That means none of that doubles heroics crap, Guga :fiery:

Nimi
02-07-2003, 05:08 PM
Totally agreeing.

Go Guga & Sweden!

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 05:11 PM
To be honest though, I think that Sweeden might be in some deep doodoo if Guga's in great form.

Who's playing doubles for Sweeden?

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 05:12 PM
I would look for myself, but the Davis Cup site is absolute shit at the moment.

Lee
02-07-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
I would look for myself, but the Davis Cup site is absolute shit at the moment.

In case you not yet find it out, Becca, it will be Bjorkman/Larrson vs Guga/Sa

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 06:06 PM
Thankyou Lee :)

I'm wondering if Enqvist is healthy enough to substitude for Bjorkman against guga on sunday.

If he is it would be highly advisable, imo.

What's Bjorkmans record against Guga?

renatoal
02-07-2003, 06:13 PM
Sa won the second set ...

Sa tied Bjorkman 4-6 7-5

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 06:15 PM
Come on Jonas - grar!

Here is my thought, if Thomas is healthy enough to play a match:

If Sweeden is up 2-1 after the doubles, they substitute Thomas for Andreas.

If Sweeden is down 1-2, they put him in for Jonas against Guga.

Makes sense, no?

That said, if they are down 0-3, then this all becomes irrelevant ;)

Lee
02-07-2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
What's Bjorkmans record against Guga?

Sweden and Brazil never play before in DC.

h2h

97 FO Guga 6-4 6-2 4-6 7-5 Clay
97 USO Bjorkman 6-3 6-1 7-5 Hard

It's so long ago that it's hard to say who has the edge this time.

and Enqvist is 1-0 over Guga
99 Stuttgart Indoor Hard 6-4 5-7 6-4

Lee
02-07-2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by renatoal
Sa won the second set ...

Sa tied Bjorkman 4-6 7-5

Thanks Renato! Would you be able to update the score here. That stupid live scoreboard in DC site is down again. :fiery:

Lee
02-07-2003, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Come on Jonas - grar!

Here is my thought, if Thomas is healthy enough to play a match:

If Sweeden is up 2-1 after the doubles, they substitute Thomas for Andreas.

If Sweeden is down 1-2, they put him in for Jonas against Guga.

Makes sense, no?

That said, if they are down 0-3, then this all becomes irrelevant ;)

lol, it's a bit complicate for me now. But I don't think there is much difference in who is playing Guga and/or Sa. Basically, with Guga's performance today, non of the Swede can defeat him and base on pass record, Sa is not likely to win a match (although it's very interesting now that he tie up the match 1-1 right now).

So, the double rubber is very important in this tie IMO

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 07:09 PM
Well you also have to consider that Thomas E is a far better indoors player than Vinciguerra, and all we know about Guga's form is based on how he played against Vinciguerra, who isn't exactly in top 30 form these days

Lee
02-07-2003, 07:17 PM
I have faith in Guga :D :D

renatoal
02-07-2003, 07:48 PM
Sa tied Bjorkman ... 4-6 7-5 2-6 6-4

renatoal
02-07-2003, 08:09 PM
Bjorkman leads the 5 set .. 4-1*

PS: Sa broke back ...

renatoal
02-07-2003, 08:15 PM
Bjorkman won ...

Bjorkman d. Sa 6-4 5-7 6-2 4-6 6-1

Lindsayfan
02-07-2003, 08:26 PM
well done Jonas! :)

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2003, 08:45 PM
Now come on and win the doubles tomorrow :D (and then guga can win his tie, and it can come down to a live fifth rubber, which Sweeden can win;))

renatoal
02-07-2003, 10:15 PM
Noo =))) Go Brazil !!!
Win tomorrow and Guga finish it Sunday =))

Lee
02-07-2003, 10:26 PM
Don't worry, Renato! Guga can do it all :D :D

Billabong
02-08-2003, 02:13 AM
GO GUGAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

Jackie
02-08-2003, 03:02 AM
Just thought I should let everyone know that it's confirmed that the winner of this tie will go on to play Australia. We are currently 3-0 ahead (reverse singles to be played tomorrow)

Chloe le Bopper
02-08-2003, 03:44 AM
As if there was ever any doubt....

renatoal
02-08-2003, 12:53 PM
Brazil leads Sweden 6-4 =))

Springy
02-08-2003, 02:50 PM
news please!

Sjengster
02-08-2003, 04:41 PM
Kuerten/Sa def. Bjorkman/Larsson 6-4, 2-6, 5-7, 6-2, 6-2

I just finished seeing the Brazil-Sweden doubles rubber and to say the least, Sweden now have something of a curse on them in doubles, especially with Bjorkman playing - he's lost his last three doubles matches in Davis Cup all from two sets to one up, two with Johansson last year against Britain and Russia and now here with Larsson.

No doubt about it, Larsson was the weakest player out there and it was definitely his lack of match practice at this level that let the Swedes down; he dropped his serve at the start of the fourth set with two double faults, and dropped it again at the start of the fifth. In fact, the Brazilians won the first 14 points of the final set, Kuerten was really fired-up all the way through and Sa in particular played brilliantly at the net during the last two sets, both of which he served out.

By contrast the Swedes' energy levels fell away and Larsson was vulnerable at the net, missing a lot of easy volleys; he had something like 10 double faults at the end of the match.

This puts the Swedes in a real corner for tomorrow, they've surely got to put in Enqvist to have any hope of beating Guga since I doubt Bjorkman can play a third day after two straight five-setters. Wilander then has to make a choice between a match-unfit and sloppy Larsson and an out-of-sorts Vinciguerra for the fifth rubber against Sa, who to me has been the best player so far of the whole tie.

That Australia-Brazil rematch may not be too far off...

Wojtek
02-08-2003, 05:00 PM
Brazil :D :D

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Lee
02-08-2003, 05:22 PM
Great Job Guga/Sa :bounce:

renatoal
02-08-2003, 05:25 PM
Yesss !!! Now I hope to see Guga finish this tie =)))

Chloe le Bopper
02-08-2003, 08:11 PM
*sigh*

I can console myself with the fact that I'll actually be legitimately rooting for Australia next tie now :mad:

For what it's worth, Bjorkman and Guga are 1-1, but haven't played since 1997. That, and as Sjengster said, I can't imagine them playing Bjorkman again.

Dissident
02-09-2003, 02:50 AM
Hmmm, Im pretty sure they will put Enqvist to play Guga, since they NEED that win.
I still dont think he can beat a highly-energized Guga. But we'll see.
I have a feeling Saretta will play the last match, even if Guga loses. Just a thought, based on nothing concrete though.

I agree with Sjengster that Sa's role was crucial. He was very good when he took Jonas to five sets in the singles, just falling short of winning due to nerves in the last set.
The doubles of Guga-Sa are developing an even better solution than the one of Guga-Jaime. Its amazing how well those two work together. :eek:
The doubles match was very good imo. Larsson was the weakest link in the end, but even like this, he had some really good moments.

Dissident
02-09-2003, 02:51 AM
And of course, it's a no-brainer that if we manage to win this one, the Australia tie would be on grass again. :p That would be interesting. lol

Billabong
02-09-2003, 12:09 PM
oh nooo... Guga is trailing 4-6, 1-2, serving.. GO GUGAAA!!!

Billabong
02-09-2003, 12:20 PM
go gugaaa!!! 4-3 Bjorkman.. now Guga you have to hold and break!!! please!! GO GUGAA!!

Springy
02-09-2003, 12:25 PM
guga!!

Nimi
02-09-2003, 12:25 PM
Go both Guga & Jonas :sad:

Springy
02-09-2003, 12:27 PM
NIMI are you here????

Billabong
02-09-2003, 12:31 PM
5-4, Guga serving.. come on Guga, you can do it!! please win this set!

Billabong
02-09-2003, 12:36 PM
Guga lost 6-4, 6-4.. now all the hopes are on Sa!!!! oh why did he lose???????? what happened???

tennischick
02-09-2003, 12:36 PM
Sa can beat Vinciguerra...:p :p

Billabong
02-09-2003, 01:02 PM
oh I didn't know it was a 3 of 5.. well, Bjorkman leads 4-3, no breaks of serve.. GO GUGAAA!!!

KFS
02-09-2003, 01:10 PM
Jonas :eek:

Billabong
02-09-2003, 01:12 PM
yay!! Guga broke and he serves for the third set.. go GUGAAA!!! yessss!!! he wins the third set 6-4... go Guga, continue like that!!

vaiva
02-09-2003, 01:13 PM
Take the 3rd set Guga!!!!

KFS
02-09-2003, 01:38 PM
Jonas definitely lost the plot.................... Guga leads 4:3 with a break in the 4th set

King Aaron
02-09-2003, 01:53 PM
Come one Jonas!

marra horra
02-09-2003, 02:11 PM
update.... not that i care too much. 4-1 Jonas in the fifth. Had two breaks, gave one back. guga down 0-15 on his serve

Springy
02-09-2003, 02:27 PM
any other news???
please!"

marra horra
02-09-2003, 02:29 PM
guga lost 1-6 after an attempted comeback... so now to a tense decider between vinci and sa

Layla
02-09-2003, 02:30 PM
Guga :sad:

renatoal
02-09-2003, 02:41 PM
It's Saretta vs. Vinciguerra now !!!!


Gooooo SAretta you can win this =)))

Wojtek
02-09-2003, 03:23 PM
Guga :sad: :sad: :sad:

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 03:23 PM
Why isn't Sa playing?

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 03:32 PM
If anybody cares, Vinciguerra just took the first set 6-1...

Layla
02-09-2003, 03:35 PM
I care, so thank you. :) Even though it's bad news. :(

GO BRAZIL! Come on Saretta!

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 03:36 PM
Do you know why Sa isn't playing, Layla?

Fatigue? :confused:

Layla
02-09-2003, 03:40 PM
No idea, I was trying to pay attention to the other ties while having dinner with my brother who has a birthday. ;)

I think Sa would've been a better choice, but let's hope Saretta can do the job. It is probably fatigue.

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 03:44 PM
Well - I'm rather hoping that Vinciguerra can do the job ;)

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 03:45 PM
He's been in such a slump - maybe winning this would help him out a bit with his confidence

Lee
02-09-2003, 03:54 PM
Guga :sad: :sad: :sad:

GO SARETTA! :bounce:

Don't have time to chat but according to Diss, Saretta and Sa are more or less at the same calibre, just Sa has more experience at DC. But Sa probably tired. He played 5 sets on Friday and Saturday. Just look at Guga at the 5th set today.

Layla
02-09-2003, 04:13 PM
Come on Saretta, you gotta hold now!

He leads 4*-3 in the second set with a break. :)

Layla
02-09-2003, 04:18 PM
Nooo, Vinciguerra broke back. :( Break him again Flavio!

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 04:19 PM
Come on Andreas :bounce: WIn this set so that I can go back to bed...

Springy
02-09-2003, 04:22 PM
dai flavio!!!!
you're my life!!!!!!

Layla
02-09-2003, 04:22 PM
Vinciguerra leads 5-4*

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 04:28 PM
Vinciguerra down 30-40 on serve :rolleyes:

Lee
02-09-2003, 04:30 PM
Thanks Layla! I really need to go now!

GO Saretta GO

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 04:33 PM
eep - Saretta went from bp on Andreas' serve to not winning another point.

6-1 7-5 Sweeden

I'm going back to bed now.

:wavey:

Layla
02-09-2003, 04:33 PM
Aaaaaah! Vinciguerra won the second set 7-5 after breaking Saretta to love. :rolleyes:

Come on Flavio! Fight your heart out! The match is not over yet!

Layla
02-09-2003, 04:37 PM
Night Becca! :wavey:

lin
02-09-2003, 04:38 PM
Guga :sad: :sad:

come on Flavio !!!!!

Layla
02-09-2003, 04:46 PM
Vinciguerra leads 2-1 in the third set, going with serve

Layla
02-09-2003, 04:53 PM
Argh, Vinciguerra gets the break. :( He leads 3-1.

Fight for goodness' sake

Chloe le Bopper
02-09-2003, 04:54 PM
I can't help but notice that Vinciguerra isn't getting much love in here today ;)

Layla
02-09-2003, 05:05 PM
You mean you love is not enough? ;)

Brazil is a much loved country in tennis. :D

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be doing them much good.

Vinciguerra leads 5-2. :(

Layla
02-09-2003, 05:10 PM
5*-3

Saretta saved a match point. :) 40-40 now

Layla
02-09-2003, 05:11 PM
Sadly, the match is now over.

Vinciguerra wins 6-1 7-5 6-3.

Brazil :sad:

Congrats Sweden!

Scotso
02-09-2003, 05:42 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Sjengster
02-09-2003, 08:37 PM
What a day! I saw both these matches, and I can only conclude that Bjorkman is taking something pretty special... 15 sets in 3 days? He had the tactics perfect right from the start against Guga, playing short-angled volleys to bring him up the court, attacking his second serves and keeping the points short. He could have won it in straights but he started to get tired, and Kuerten was really fired-up during the third and fourth sets - he hit a second-serve ace to take the third set and was pumping up his supporters when he levelled the match.

And then at the crunch moment, when Bjorkman was looking mentally and physically drained, Kuerten completely fell away in the final set; he didn't hold serve once, but the moment he got broken to go 2-0 down he had 0-40 on Bjorkman's next game, and Bjorkman responded by winning the next 9 points to go 4-0 up with a double break. He then got broken to love himself, but he managed to break Guga once more and served it out.

As for Vinciguerra v Saretta... well, methinks old Andreas was very lucky that Sa was feeling it physically and couldn't play, because Saretta's game was much more to his liking. The commentators observed that Saretta can actually drag opponents down to a poor level simply by the way he grinds every single point out, but personally I think that it's his grunting that does it - the guy has obviously studied Kuerten and made a poor, nasal impersonation of it that certainly must grate the nerves of an opponent in a rally.

That second set was crucial - down a break, almost down a double break, Vinciguerra broke back in a huge long game at 4-4 where he finally hit a short-angled forehand to draw Saretta out of court and force him into an error. Even then Saretta had 0-40 at 5-5 on Vinciguerra's serve, and just like Bjorkman, Vinciguerra won the next 9 points to go two sets to love up.

If Vinciguerra's game wasn't so one-dimensional and based solely around his forehand, he could have taken care of Saretta far more easily; instead he had to stay patient in these marathon rallies where he kept having to scurry across the baseline, run round his backhand and rip a forehand, often hitting them long or into the net. But one break was enough to seal it, and it was noted that by the end "Vinci" was just enjoying the experience of Davis Cup while Saretta was not... the poor guy kept getting foot-faulted just like Kuerten had in his match, for no apparent reason.

Kuerten looked crestfallen at the end, but credit to Sweden and their powers of recovery, although it would have been better if one of them hadn't been against Britain last year. They now host Australia, and with the amount of injuries in the Swedish side at the moment, I should think they'll have to keep it on an indoor court rather than put it on clay, which they'd obviously prefer.

Dissident
02-10-2003, 12:55 PM
Well, what can I say?

Both Guga and the captain are taking the piss out of people here right now. I cant understand.
Sa is not exactly a grand calibre player. Saretta is as good as him. Sa had the edge on rhythm, but would be obviously handicapped in the physical part. As the last match would be against Enqvist OR Vinciguerra, BOTH fresh, Pardal chose to give Saretta a chance. We already knew Sa couldnt handle pressure moments. He crumbled against Bjorkman, when the swede played a lot less than against Guga. And also, last year when Guga was injured, Saretta was the only one who could win a match on carpet against the Czechs.
The choice was kind of obvious, as I said it would be two days ago.
Guga doesnt deserve to be crapped on because he has to play alone for us to have any chance. If we dont develop some depth in our tennis, we wont EVER reach the Davis Cup finals, even less win a cup as some people here seem to blindly believe.

We have to give kudos to Bjorkman (especially, since he was brilliant against Guga for most of the match, and after playing 15 sets in three days being 30 years old...) and Vinciguerra, that thoroughly outplayed Saretta.
To Rebecca, a fan of Andreas, I would say this was the best match I've seen the swede play in about two years.

Now we will have to wait and see who we will have to face to stay in the World Group next year. :(
And Ill consider the option of visiting Buenos Aires if Marat will be ready to come. :p

Ma. Estefania
02-10-2003, 03:31 PM
Congrats to Sweden.

Anyway, it was a great tie. Pretty exciting.

Lee
02-10-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Well, what can I say?

Both Guga and the captain are taking the piss out of people here right now. I cant understand.

I can't understand either! :mad:

Chloe le Bopper
02-10-2003, 10:29 PM
To Rebecca, a fan of Andreas, I would say this was the best match I've seen the swede play in about two years.

Thanks, I'm glad to hear that :) I'm sorry it had to be at your teams expense, but I really wanted him to win. Hopefully this can be a turn around for him.


Now we will have to wait and see who we will have to face to stay in the World Group next year.

Maybe if you are lucky you'll play Team Canada again ;)