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Roger's coach - Tony Roche

Mane
06-07-2005, 05:16 PM
What do you think about him? Does Roger need a coach?

a girl 13
06-07-2005, 05:30 PM
What do you think about him? Does Roger need a coach?
Nooooo!!! Roger has could win AO And RG WITHOUT him. Trust me . Last year he only have Mirka and a few friends and he wins without a coach 3 grand slams! :yeah: :yeah: SO ROGER PLAYS BETTER WITHOUT TONY ROCHE!!! ;) ;) ;)

Mane
06-07-2005, 05:39 PM
Nooooo!!! Roger has could win AO And RG WITHOUT him. Trust me . Last year he only have Mirka and a few friends and he wins without a coach 3 grand slams! :yeah: :yeah: SO ROGER PLAYS BETTER WITHOUT TONY ROCHE!!! ;) ;) ;)

Roche is not guilty that Roger didn't win a GS yet!

a girl 13
06-07-2005, 05:45 PM
Roche is not guilty that Roger didn't win a GS yet!
No , maybe roger have more pressure with a coach

Mane
06-07-2005, 05:49 PM
No , maybe roger have more pressure with a coach

no! He has the pressure in every match because He is the best and everone wants to defeat him!

SUKTUEN
06-07-2005, 05:50 PM
I don't think he is very useful~~

Mane
06-07-2005, 05:51 PM
I don't think he is very useful~~

How much does he pay him?

SUKTUEN
06-07-2005, 05:53 PM
How much does he pay him?


I think the old man have a big prize :o

Mane
06-07-2005, 05:56 PM
I think the old man have a big prize :o

Why did he dump Peter Lundgren?

soonha
06-07-2005, 07:44 PM
Roger needs a coach esp. in a longterm perspective.

Roche is a temporary part-time coach for improving Roger's S/V and giving him advices in terms of strategy. No GS is definitely not Roche's fault. Only the whole field has become stronger than last year, which was predicted and is the reason why Roger hired Roche.

IMO, Roger'll have to hire a full-time coach sooner or later. Going without a coach is possible but has a limit. I think Darren Cahill is a good candidate. It'd be perfect to hire him as a full-time coach next year if Agassi retires after this season.

Mane
06-07-2005, 07:54 PM
Roger needs a coach esp. in a longterm perspective.

Roche is a temporary part-time coach for improving Roger's S/V and giving him advices in terms of strategy. No GS is definitely not Roche's fault. Only the whole field has become stronger than last year, which was predicted and is the reason why Roger hired Roche.

IMO, Roger'll have to hire a full-time coach sooner or later. Going without a coach is possible but has a limit. I think Darren Cahill is a good candidate. It'd be perfect to hire him as a full-time coach next year if Agassi retires after this season.

Nikola Pilic should be a good coach! He trained Stich and Goran! he won the Davis Cup 3 times with Germany!

Yoda
06-07-2005, 08:07 PM
Roger needs a mentor and wise head in his camp.....Roche is the perfect matchup.
PLease don't dismiss Roche for only a couple of weeks of training\chatting.

Remember Roche helped Lendl become a dominant force in Roland Garos

Mane
06-07-2005, 08:13 PM
Roger needs a mentor and wise head in his camp.....Roche is the perfect matchup.
PLease don't dismiss Roche for only a couple of weeks of training\chatting.

Remember Roche helped Lendl become a dominant force in Roland Garos

and Roche trained Rafter too.

soonha
06-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Roger needs a mentor and wise head in his camp.....Roche is the perfect matchup.
PLease don't dismiss Roche for only a couple of weeks of training\chatting.

Remember Roche helped Lendl become a dominant force in Roland Garos
Yes, he not only is wise and experienced as a coach but suits Roger well in term of humility. It's a pity he can't be a full-time coach.

Dirk
06-07-2005, 08:52 PM
Roche is fine. Roche is doing a great job and he didn't lose Oz and RG because of him. Roger in my mind didn't listen his advice enough at RG with Nadal and Roger lost it because he didn't use S/V and chip and charge tactics enough. Roger didn't make Nadal feel that grass court tennis pressure.

Lady Natalia
06-07-2005, 09:31 PM
Dirk, I tend to agree with you one the first part. Roche is doing fine. Roger is benefitting from the time with him. Maybe the only problem is that Roche can not be there more often...

Mane
06-07-2005, 09:34 PM
Dirk, I tend to agree with you one the first part. Roche is doing fine. Roger is benefitting from the time with him. Maybe the only problem is that Roche can not be there more often...

Why doesn't Roche his full-time coach!

Lady Natalia
06-07-2005, 09:36 PM
Why doesn't Roche his full-time coach!

Roche does not want to coach full time anymore. He said he wants to spend more time with family, instead of traveling.

Mane
06-07-2005, 09:39 PM
Roche does not want to coach full time anymore. He said he wants to spend more time with family, instead of traveling.

He should work with John Newcombe!

Minnie
06-07-2005, 11:55 PM
Roger needs a coach esp. in a longterm perspective.

Roche is a temporary part-time coach for improving Roger's S/V and giving him advices in terms of strategy. No GS is definitely not Roche's fault. Only the whole field has become stronger than last year, which was predicted and is the reason why Roger hired Roche.

IMO, Roger'll have to hire a full-time coach sooner or later. Going without a coach is possible but has a limit. I think Darren Cahill is a good candidate. It'd be perfect to hire him as a full-time coach next year if Agassi retires after this season.

I heard, must be earlier last year, that he originally wanted Darren Cahill, thinking that Andre might be retiring at the end of 2003. Though Rogi + Tony seem to really like one another - Tony has said how fortunate he has been to work with some really nice guys like Lendl and Rafter "and now Roger". He said recently that he was more like a good friend to Rafter than a coach and feels he has the same relationship with Roger - which must be a good basis from which to work.

soonha
06-08-2005, 12:11 AM
Why doesn't Roche his full-time coach!
As far as I heard, he's been suffering from sciatic pain so he can't take a long-time flight.

WyveN
06-08-2005, 06:05 AM
While Roche is probably good for the long term it is strange that Rogers best results this season have occured while Roche wasnt with him.
This is probably a coincidence but still I think Roche will be almost under as much pressure as Roger during Wimbledon.

Personally I have always felt the "10 weeks per year" is a bit silly as a coach & a player usually need quite some time to get used to each others methods and with them spending so little time together who knows how long before they are truly comfortable with tactics, gameplans, training etc

SUKTUEN
06-08-2005, 05:29 PM
Why did he dump Peter Lundgren?

I think is Lun want a very very big money and Roger don't like it :o