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The GET IT ALL OUT thread ->>u dont even have to make sense! (fedfans only)

lina_seta
06-04-2005, 12:58 AM
was there ever such a thread??? why do ppl always have to hide their sad feelings.... well time to LET IT ALL OUT!! any kind of feelings, irrational, rational?? who knows... its our forum.. we r entitled with liberty of speech!

i must admit im sad and a bit dissapointed that roger lost to nadal.. and dont find a good reason of why he played with so many mistakes... sure nadal is on the other side of the court but its more than that... its mental!
i shouldnt be dissapointed cuz roger had advanced so much, he lost in the SF

im speaking for myself only.. that prob i wont watch the final where it reminds me of this lost and that it will prob be a straight set bashing... if roger's not in i dont even bother... maybe ill switch the channels a couple of times to c the last of the clay court season... bon voyage!

-->well any fedfan is invited to post.. after it, lets burn this thread and mark a new beginning for the GRASS SEASON *CHEERS* :drink:

Nathy
06-04-2005, 01:04 AM
Yeah I don't know how to explain Fed's loss too... He was so unrecognizable yesterday... so many errors on his FH... I was getting mad watching this match but right before it started I said to my mum " He's not gonna win I feel it"... Unfortunately I was right... His mental state worries me... 2 GS SF, 2 losses... Let's hope he'll do weel in wimby and WIN IT!!!

I cried right after the match and now I'm going to sleep but before I'll cry a little I think, just to put out all my frustration: I believed Roger could win this year or never...Let's hope I am wrong!

A :hug: to all Fedfans!

lina_seta
06-04-2005, 01:18 AM
=( i was in school so i couldnt watch the match... i had already consider how the oucome would be for me if roger wins or not... one thing i was sure is that i reeaallly wanted roger to win... and i followed the score in school...
i got sad seeing he lost 6-4 in the first.. but thats only the beginning so i didnt get too nervious... then i saw he won the second and lost the 3rd.. bad sign... then at 2:00 i checked the scores one last time before going home to c the awful score of: 3-6 6-4 3-6 3-5 with nadal serving *30-15... and the AWFUL feeling of being doom STRUCK me and i didnt know how to react.. so i turned it off and went home without wanting to watch anymore =(

holagirl56
06-04-2005, 02:12 AM
I was sad when Roger lost to Nadal too. This was really a match that I was expecting him to win. And when he won that second set, it really seemed like he awoke from the sleep he was in in the first.

There were just too many unforced errors, and bad first serve percentages for Roger to win this match. In the end, the Roger we saw was unrecognizable and his confidence was low.

This was his best showing at RG though, and I know that he'll bounce back soon. He always does.

RogersGirl
06-04-2005, 02:21 AM
thank you for making this thread. it gets tiresome trying to be politically correct and speaking with your head, not your heart. honestly, i was devastated. i went through a whole bunch of phases when at first i thought there was no way he could win this match, to then reading what journalists and basically most people were saying-- that he COULD do it. and i began to believe it and became optimistic... too optimistic. and then when the rain delay came i was almost convinced that he would definitely win.

i HATE this. I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!!! why did he have to play so poorly. why did he have to destroy that almost invincible aura people have built upon him. my expectations for roger are SO unbelievably high, i guess it hurts that much more when he falls like this. he WILL get up, he CAN go on. but people in the press will no doubt, and with good reason, write about how nadal may be his equal, or even put him a few notches above. and then all those "best ever" projections will seem silly and premature. i can't even cry, thats how much this is bothering me. cuz when the tears start coming, they will (pathetically so) take a long time to stop. the safin match in melbourne-- at least you fell he fought. here, he just resigned himself to the worse tennis i've ever seen him play. why? how? i dont understand. ughhh im driving myself crazy for an answer but obviously there is none. he's human. yup, roger federer is human and will not always be on top, as my brother very sadistically reminds me every other moment as he watches the semi again. yes this is all a long long ramble and the true fed-fanantic within me is speaking, without reason, completely selfish. but hey, thats what this is for, right? someone tell me i'm not the only one completely broken by this. its only a tennis match. only ONE match. just one. then why does it feel like i lost it?

lina_seta
06-04-2005, 02:59 AM
rogersgirl.. just speak ur mind.. it IS definitely tiresome always to be diplomatic at loses... like havig to hypocritically say good things about everything when u r feeling down... =( i dont know how roger copes with it.... i think what he said in the interview reflected his true feelings... then ppl starts bashing him about his arrogance... HOW IS HE SUPPOSE TO BE HAPPY!!! after it... its like ur mom is killed and u r expected to be reasonable and not emotional.. its easy to say good things about ur opponent when u win... definitely not when u lose in a match that matters... specially when u know u could have done it but didnt give ur best... and u wish u could just have a second chance... happens to everyone right? when it happens to me i FEEL SOOOO MAD about myself for not doing what i can... is roger going through it in private?? =(!!

Lady Natalia
06-04-2005, 03:32 AM
This is a sad day for Roger. This was the perfect chance for him to win Roland Garros. He lost and it hurts. But people mistake honest truth as bravado and cockiness. It has been said before, a first class claycourter beat the most complete player on his weakest surface. If you poll the players, what is their favourite surface? A high majority will answer either clay or hard court. Not many will say, grass. That's something special.

This loss hurts, but it is not the end-all-be-all. Roger is exquisite on grass; excellent on hard court and very good on clay. He was right, he can beat Nadal anyday on any surface. Even on clay when he plays his best. When Roger plays his best NO ONE is annals of history can beat him.

Roger will have another chance at Roland Garros, but now he must focus on The Championships- Wimbledon. A third championship and 5-0 in GS finals would be perfect. I imagine it would keep him No. 1 for the rest of the year. And a win at The Championships will be great motivation for a repeat at Flushing Meadows.

I love all you Fed Fans! Let's stick together and give Rogi some slack. This is only his third loss of the year, 6 months into the year. That's pretty good. And I DO NOT think he needs to change his (semi) coach or as Bud Collins calls him "The Guest Lecturer". He probably needs more time throughout the year with him.

I think we Fed fans have been a bit spoiled. Roger hardly ever loses, granted two of his three losses were in the semis of a GS. That hurts. So close to THE GS. I think Roger needs a coach on an almost full-time, if not 3/4 time basis. I know he has proved that he can win 3 GS in a year without one. But it is not a sign of weakness to seek full-time assistance.

This loss will only fuel the flame that burns within Roger. This is a Champion of a rare level. Only few are here...Sampras, Borg, Laver, Graf, Evert, Navratilova. Roger is already there at 23. And if anyone one doubts me on that...take it up with the legends of tennis and commentating that say the same.

RogersGirl
06-04-2005, 03:44 AM
i love you lady natalia!!! very very well put. puts my heart and mind a bit at ease knowing that i'm not the only one this effected by it, and that being optimistic is what we owe our champion. thanks :hug:

Whistleway
06-04-2005, 03:44 AM
Thanks for this thread. I feel like a shit.. I am proud that he got this far. But, today, Federer, IMHO, wasn't dialed in. He was just so annoyed at himself, weather everything. I miss the old cool roger.. And this year, he is slowly turning away from himself. But, i trust him to do the right thing. Come on roger. pull up your socks and trust yourself, rather than so much abt Tony roche. he may be great, but, you can figure it all yourself too.. remember that!! and forget about talking about saving energy etc.. just do your ninja magic..

Lady Natalia
06-04-2005, 03:46 AM
i love you lady natalia!!! very very well put. puts my heart and mind a bit at ease knowing that i'm not the only one this effected by it, and that being optimistic is what we owe our champion. thanks :hug:

I agree with you completely. And truly feel what you are feeling. All after the match, I just kept think "why didn't he play better?" This was the perfect time for him to win RG.

Art&Soul
06-04-2005, 04:10 AM
Shit :mad: He not believe in himself, he played with his tactics but not with his tennis instinct, his confidence seems disappeared somewhere, i'm so sad :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: i want to cry out loud...but oh yeah GRASS SEASON IS COMING, thanks GOD

Minnie
06-04-2005, 04:12 AM
Glad I've got somewhere to say what a rotten night's sleep I've had (still v early morning) wondering just what was wrong with Rogi on that court. I've never seen him play so badly - and that's what really hurts. When Safin beat him at the AO, you knew he'd given all he had to give, played really great tennis and with injuries too. The "never say die" attitude is one of the things I admire so much about him and could not believe what I was watching yesterday. I felt he never walked onto that court like he owned it and from the moment he struck the ball during his first service game, the writing was on the wall. Something wasn't there and sadly, he never found it during the match either!

lsy
06-04-2005, 05:34 AM
The different between this loss and the AO loss is that though I felt really sad after AO but I was also very proud and I know he had tried his best but he just couldn't do it anymore at the end. But here, it's not.

He gave me hope for this match. Even when he lost the 1st set, he pushed Nadal playing brilliant tennis, it was nth like at the beginning of Miami final where he was just lost. Of course in the 2nd set, the only times when he's able to string everything together consistenly and played well, he had the match in his hand, there wasn't much Nadal could do there at all no matter how hard he tried. He let me believe that it's his match tol win and yet...nope, false hope.

After he was up 5-1 in the 2nd set, I don't know what happened but he's just so streaky. No consistency, one brilliang shot followed by some really lousy errors. Worse of all in the 4th set being up 3-1 and just uncharacteristicly faded away completely...his first serves % is unbelievably low and losing all games after that lead was simply shocking. That was very disappointing for me because I know he has it in him to win the match and I don't know why of all matches, he couldn't find that extra factor here, a very important occasion with much at stake.

I know I should jsut get it all out and not make sense here, but you have to give it to Nadal. He has to be extremely pressurised as well but ultimately he was the one who kept the form and consistency. He made it, Rogi didn't, simple as that.

I believe two of the key things for Rogi going to this match is to serve well and cut down the errors, and both he failed miserably.

I just hope he's never going to play another match with such performance EVER again. It's pointless having glimpse of brilliant shots here and there, but when the point really matters, you failed to deliver.

End of rant. Moving forward to grass, after all it's still an improvement from last year RG for Rogi...but pls Rogi, just no more giving yourself extra pressures, you have to live with the moment and deal with them and YOU CAN.

soonha
06-04-2005, 05:59 AM
Yeah, I want to speak out what I'm thinking. Thank you for making an opportunity of this, lina. It's not easy work for my English but I'll try. I don't want to try to analyse the match or figure out why he lost. I just want to put down my thoughts and feelings here.
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This morning right after the match, literally I felt sick and almost cried. So devastated. I even didn't want to see the match on TV(as I live in the westcoast of US, they showed the delayed taped match). I didn't want to read any articles and posts in MTF. It seems like my heart was totally broken. I thought it would take a couple of months for me to get over it as it did when Roger lose to Safin at AO.

However, slowly I got to realize that this is only the 3rd loss of this year. Of course, 2 of them are SFs at the grand slam. Those are big. It might be big. Many people must be disappointed with that. But so what? He'll be staying as no.1 in the world even though Nadal wins FO and then the Race points of them are tied. He has still 2 more GSs coming, which will take place on his favorite surfaces. And there are bunch of other tournaments he can dominate. Top of all, nobody doubts his ability and status as a player to beat just by this one defeat. So why should we be so disappointed? It's not the end of the world.

We, Roger fans including me, have been a little(no, very) spoiled. Since 2003 MC, he've done what nobody'd done yet. NOBODY, yes, includes Roger himself. In some respects, it's much easier to reach a certain level for the first time in one's career or life. However, the maintenance of the level is a totally different story. It requires more labor and energy. It's just like, in geometry, the area below the slope of a hyperbolic curve is smaller than that below the plateau of the curve. Besides, we all know it's much more difficult to repeat the same results right after such an incredible 2004.

An irory is all these are attributed to Roger himself. He've raised a bar of tennis 'too much' to the extent that he(yes, even he) has to improve his own level of tennis. I think this must be driving him crazy and wearing him down sometimes, especially in a mental aspect.

Nonetheless, somehow our beloved Roger has come through this year despite of all the pressure. So far better than last year! No GS title? C'mon, give him some slack. He missed just one, AO. This year he reached SF at FO, has better win-loss ratio and won more titles. How about that? Not good enough for you? Seriously, I'm really amazed by how well he has managed physical and mental fatigue which, I guess, must be enormous.

Yes, today's loss made us feeling awful and annoyed at what people unthoughtfully talk. But we have to get used to his losses as well as his wins. We have to admitt and embrace the facts that he is human, sometimes he plays like a crap and he can lose a match in one bad day even though it's a GS. What do we want from him more? He plays tennis like a god but he's not a god.

Today I decided not to get heart-broken any more from his loss as far as he is No. 1 in the world and I can enjoy his beautiful tennis for a long time. I just feel thankful for his presence in my time.

But please, guys, don't jinx him or say something stupid like "somebody's birthday is the day of SF at Wimbledon" :rolleyes: Just cheering him. Wish him to win. Sometimes that's not enough, like today.

Sorry for a long post.

Skyward
06-04-2005, 06:02 AM
Isy, I feel exactly the same. The loss itself I can swallow, but his gutless performance is a hard thing to take.

lina_seta
06-04-2005, 06:13 AM
=) feels much better to know how others see it, no? many of what were pointed out is true, no?... roger isnt losing anything! he didn have to fedend this title so he actually gained more points, no? hehe
2004 was a great year and i do think he spoiled us with his masive wins ^.^... but i became a fan in 2004 (when my sis introduced me to tennis!) so it cant be blame...
no?

MissMoJo
06-04-2005, 06:34 AM
I felt he never walked onto that court like he owned it and from the moment he struck the ball during his first service game, the writing was on the wall. Something wasn't there and sadly, he never found it during the match either!
This is so true. When Nadal hit that return dtl, Rogi hunched his shoulders and got this defeated look on his face....and he looked that way through the whole match. The minute i saw that, i had a feeling of dread. He didn't seem like himself, like you guys said at AO he lost but not without a fight...yesterday it was like he was just going through the motions.

Now and then he would a brilliant shot and i would think "yes, finally" but then would follow it with a df, long fh, a lame dropshot attempt etc., shots that he could make in his sleep. As for Nadal, not to discredit him because he played well, but Rogi practically handed him that match (can't wait for the 'Is Nadal the new #1' threads to start popping up in GM :rolleyes: :o ) There was definitely a combination of pressure, a discomfort with Nadal's style, but moreso a mental block at work in this match.If nothing else, he advanced further than he did last year, and i'd like to think he learned about some of the adjustments he needs to make next year (especially against Rafa). That being said, clay is in the past for now, grass is up next Rogi thrives on it and sure he'll give us more reasons to celebrate the rest of the season.

SUKTUEN
06-04-2005, 07:18 AM
Roger this match don't make sense~!!

Mrs. B
06-04-2005, 07:30 AM
the first point they played with Roger serving, he made the error, and that made me apprehensive already...
in the second set i put on my RG cap and things got better altho he should have won that 6-1 and made his mind at ease.
but he couldn't do anything right, errors galore were coming from his racket which he'd normally hit at ease. clearly his mental state was troubled.
i was applauding madly for his good points, but i screamed like a banshee on those elementary mistakes. my neighbors downstairs are probably thinking i'm nuts! which i am. i'm not Roger's fan for nothing.
i taped the whole match but i'll never watch it.

SUKTUEN
06-04-2005, 07:33 AM
my god I am worry about it

Minnie
06-04-2005, 08:28 AM
I taped the match as well ... for a friend who is coming over next weekend! Whether she'll actually want to see it now, I don't know. Not sure I could sit through it again. By the way, did anyone notice the scowls that were coming across Rogi's face during that match? If looks could kill ...!! Not sure if they were directed at Rafa and his fist-pumping at Fed's errors - perhaps I ought to watch it again to find out!

The only optimistic thing I can say about yesterday's match is that if Rogi could have maintained that "higher gear" he found in the 2nd set when he went 5-1 up, I believe there is no way Nadal could have won as he looked at a loss to know what to do against the "Federer Force". Unfortunately, I think Rog started off in panic mode and it set in again during the 3rd.

Its very important that he does well at Halle - to restore his "equilibrium". But, when all's said and done ... there is just no one to touch him for style, flair and artistry on a tennis court ... when he's not in panic mode of course!!

Puschkin
06-04-2005, 08:51 AM
I was disappointed, too. I had organised tickets for the RG SFs and finals in February with the instinctive feeling that Roger would do all he can to win RG this year.

I was so happy when he made the SF and I could see his match. But it was not to be :sad: . He started nervously, and could never really overcome his own demons, he was tense and a little overeager, and Nadal made use of it and never faltered himself.

At occasions it was painful to watch the poor serving and the forehand mistakes, Yesterday right after the match I was dejected...But you have to look forward in life, and more so in tennis....

SUKTUEN
06-04-2005, 08:58 AM
MY GOD~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sad: :sad: :sad:

Minnie
06-04-2005, 09:26 AM
Wimby is in Rogi's heart Suktuen. I think I can hear that trophy in SW19 calling his name!

babsi
06-04-2005, 09:43 AM
I was disappointed, too. I had organised tickets for the RG SFs and finals in February with the instinctive feeling that Roger would do all he can to win RG this year.

I was so happy when he made the SF and I could see his match. But it was not to be :sad: . He started nervously, and could never really overcome his own demons, he was tense and a little overeager, and Nadal made use of it and never faltered himself.

At occasions it was painful to watch the poor serving and the forehand mistakes, Yesterday right after the match I was dejected...But you have to look forward in life, and more so in tennis....
Yes,regretes are useless - one time you are on top of the world - at other times you have to lose and take it with dignity - keeps you humble!

I really think Roger should just make that year his "learning experiens" - stick with Roche - learn and focus on the basics - forget tennis histroy for a while - make the rest of the season an "I have fun to play" that´s all".

Then next year, I would love for him, to be on his own again - he is more into it without a coach - he might need that "lonly fighter" feel - like all super heroes!

I´m so glad to have you all - it´s nice to share :)

SUKTUEN
06-04-2005, 09:43 AM
Wimby is in Rogi's heart Suktuen. I think I can hear that trophy in SW19 calling his name!

:D :D :D :D :D :D Roger~~!!!!! GOOOOOOO~!!!!!!!!!

babsi
06-04-2005, 09:50 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D Roger~~!!!!! GOOOOOOO~!!!!!!!!!
Hello,SUKTUEN :)

I too,of course wish he would win Wimbledon - but I want him to enjoy himself again!

He is still the player with the best game - that´s nothing anyone can take away from him!

yanchr
06-04-2005, 10:43 AM
I was watching yesterday's match again just now, which I had refused after the AO loss. Don't bring on the birthday coincidence to me, that is shit, totally meaningless. The two matches are by no means of anything similar except for the result sadly. Heartbroken after AO for me followed by some really down days with the loss haunting me from time to time, while I'm quite OK now to face and accept this loss with relative ease. He seems so too in his interview.

When was the last time he was broken 4 times in a set which even didn't get to a tb? I mean, it was ridiculous. But it was not what worried me at the beginning. I was more of waiting to see what would happen and still thinking it was a 50-50 match than getting down and sad right away. And I was right for once. He began playing better and better in the 2nd set, though still fail to serve out once which even didn't surprise me at all. Actually I had a thought he was going to win it maybe in 4. I just could see that his forehand, his ability to set up a point and finish it off and his variety were not Nadal's consistence and defense could afford throughout the whole match. I even recalled what one journalist said when predicting the outcome of the match that he was too good with his mixed up game for Nadal's one-dimensional one. And I was wrong, so unfortunately and sadly.

Actually I think he was playing pretty good in the 3rd set on the whole. Even when he was broken first, I had firm belief he would break back which he did right away. I felt he had chance in each of Nadal's game, only have to blow them all away. And I didn't expect it was just the beginning of his pathetic play afterwards. On 4:5, he was so stupid and pig-headed to lose this service game thus the set after making an all out effort to have saved 2 SPs, considering how tough it was to save BPs on clay for him today. A casual bh long to give Nadal the SP again, then came the most stupid point of the match I think. He was setting the point so well and dictating the play with no losing position, only to hit a so-called overhead smash right back to a wholy-on-defense Nadal with no power or angle, just saw Nadal to make a pass winner flying aside him. WTF with this point! It was so pathetic to see him play well through the set only to lose it in the most crucial moment to hand over his opponent the whole set. But actually from what I watched from him, even at this stage, I still believe he could come back and at least take the match into a 5th set. And I was wrong again, so deadly and disappointedly wrong.

Again when was the last time he let his opponent take 5 games in a row from actually a leading position? After strong play to give himself 3:1, a chance to bring it to the 5th, he was crap all till the end. I turned my tv off from 3:1, when watching it again. It was too pathetic and too disappointed to have witnessed that. And I didn't want to abuse myself again. I didn't know what happened to him, just all of a sudden he lost his fh out of nothing, all finding the net. Really not much to say about this set. After he failed to break Nadal to have to trail again at 3:4, I had bad feeling at once. Then came that shriek after another casual bh long at 3:4 bp to give Nadal the chance to jump into the air. OH MY FUCK GOD ROGER was all my reaction through to the end. Could it be even more pathetic?

I don't get anyone disagree that he was not on his best today. It was too obvious to even point out. His errors surely had sth to do with Nadal's play, but from what I saw, the majority of them were coming from his own hand out of nowhere. He was right about Nadal was not much better than him today, but the problem is Roger, why the hell you didn't bring on your best on such a big stage of the year? I was so disappointed that he played so badly on the crucial moments, not to say he totally lost his serve when he needed it most. It was pathetic again. 3 losses out of 45 matches is such a superb result uptil now, but can it be even worse to have to lose the most important two matches? Even if he goes away with 5 TMS or more and TMC by the end of the year, but no slam, it would be an absolute failure this year for me. All the pressure in Wimbledon now. I just hope he delivers there.

I didn't want to hug him at all right after he lost here while I damn wanted to after the AO loss.

Ok mine over...there are other threads to cheer him up again and look ahead, not this one though :p

Minnie
06-04-2005, 11:01 AM
I haven't re-watched the match yet - won't be doing that until next weekend I think (I'll have to take a deep breath before I do!). But agree that it was so frustrating to watch Rog coming apart at the seams in such an important match which some people said was the de facto final. Something was missing right from the word go .... I think its called "consistency" ... and "mental toughness" which Nadal had in abundence! I was sorry Rog lost in AO, but proud that he left his heart out on that court ... at times yesterday it looked like his heart wasn't even in the game! No matter what brave face he put on yesterday, I bet he's feeling a bit sad and empty today ... there wasn't much to be proud of, by his standards, in that match. It was more that HE lost it than Nadal won it. I had to smile when I read his quote "I had the key to beat Nadal" ... assume he left it in the locker room then??

Anyway, we'll all support him through thick and thin.... we're just not used to the thin times!!

lunahielo
06-04-2005, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by holagirl56
Roger we saw was unrecognizable and his confidence was low.

First of all, thank you for this thread, lina_seta. I know what a help it can be to have a place to get your feelings out and not worry about being politically correct.
I trust you, Federer fans, or I would not pour out my feelings in this way.


I have read all of your posts and agree with the things you said.

I realize I have an obsession with Roger and his beautiful game.

I really don't care who wins RG. now.
No, that is not quite true.
I would like to see Nadal lose. He beat Roger and my *bad side* wants to punish him.
I usually don't feel this way about people.
But I do this time. (It's wrong, I know~~but it's the way I feel)
Irrational? Of course!!

I'm sure he is a nice kid, but I don't like his *in your face* kind of play.
I guess I have a lot of meaness in me. My dark side has taken over...hummmm~
It'll go away~~but right now I actually hurt.

The night before the match I had a weird dream. Roger and Nadal were playing and Roger was winning...barely....and then they came to the third set and Roger had match point..over and over and over and couldn't close it out. He never did and then I woke up and knew in my heart that he would lose.

I taped the match as I watched it...but I may never watch it again...yet, I may~~but I think it will be a long time.
I didn't feel this way after the AO~~ (some of you have said the same thing)~
I didn't feel this way after the Monte Carlo match.

I realize my feelings are irrational...but that's the way it is.

The UEs were unreal...and I, like you, want to see Roger having fun on the court again.
I hope he starts relying on his tennis instincts again. He doesn't seem to be doing that as much as before....but then again, I don't pretend to read his mind.. :)
(Nothing against T.Roche. I think he has helped him improve his S&V~~and probably other things of which I am not aware.)



Originally posted by Minnie
Anyway, we'll all support him through thick and thin.... we're just not used to the thin times!!

Absolutely! I shall always support him....as long as he is playing.

I am looking forward to the grass, too.

There will be more losses~~sure.
I hope I can be a better person and accept them in a more intelligent way.
Thanks again for this thread.

To all of you~~ :hug:
Luna

lina_seta
06-04-2005, 05:14 PM
:sad: lunahielo....
my wicked side wants nadal to lose too :devil: ... as to mantain a karmic balance!!! not so irratoinal if we consider human nature and not what should be right
and i agree after AO the feeling was dif... as someone said "u just wanted to give him a hug!!" after he gave everything and was down the last set and still come back to fight till 8-6... thats admirable... and we all felt proud even though he lost... but yesterday was not the case.. i think thats why its more difficult to accept and heartbreaking....

and i definitely cant stand what some a$$heads say about his bad playing being all an excuse just becuz he lost! then regard nadal as the real deal and roger as old history.. never to dominate again :mad: :mad:

Nathy
06-04-2005, 05:15 PM
I would like to see Nadal lose. He beat Roger and my *bad side* wants to punish him.
I usually don't feel this way about people.
But I do this time. (It's wrong, I know~~but it's the way I feel)
Irrational? Of course!!


Just tell what you feel and nothing else ;) Don't justify yourself or so, feel free to say what you think we're not gonna blame you :hug:


Absolutely! I shall always support him....as long as he is playing.


So do we all here! Rogi will never give up neither us! Always on his side!!


There will be more losses~~sure.
I hope I can be a better person and accept them in a more intelligent way.


You're for sure a good person don't worry. It is a normal reaction after a loss, we, Roger fans, are not used to see our idol losing... It asks sometime... :hug:


To all of you~~ :hug:
Luna

Many :hug: to you too Luna :kiss:

lunahielo
06-04-2005, 07:01 PM
Thank you, Nathy and lina_seta for your kind words. :angel:

I do feel better getting my feelings out!
Therapy is great, isn't it?

I wish for everyone a wonderful rest of the weekend~~ :wavey:
And~~next week is Halle! :)

It looks like Rogi will meet Soderling...first.
I'll be following the scoreboard. :)

Luna

Go Rogi!

soonha
06-04-2005, 07:32 PM
I wish not to. But I can't stop thinking why Roger couldn't make through yesterday's match. Aside from all other facts(e.g. he wasted the 1st set so easily), the most bothering things to me is that he played poorly at the crucial late stage of the match, a half of the 3rd set and the 4th set.

Why? Why Roger, who knows better than anyone how to elevate the game at the critial moment, couldn't do that? At the early 3rd set, he looked capable of it and it seemed to be going to happen. Eh? After then, what the hell happened to him? The thing harder to understand was his play of the last set. The % of the 1st service 33%(2nd set 85%, 3rd set 72%)??? Winning % on 1st service 56%(Nadal 68%, yes, that Nadal with 88-mile 1st serve)??? :rolleyes: (Hey, Roger, you should've won that set if you wanted to go into the 5th set, which would be played on the next day!)

Some people may say it's mental. Others say he's just outplayed by Nadal, don't make excuses, blah, blah, blah.... But here's my opinion.

IMO, the key factor in the yesterday's match was his serve which was his main weapon. In other words, the darkness seemed crucially affected ball tosses when he served.

I'm not sure if I'm right. But this can explain why his level of play suddenly dropped from the latter half of the 3rd set. In the 2nd set he served really well and was good at net: 1st serve% 85%, winning on 1st serve 82%, net approach 87%(12/15)! All of a sudden, in the 4th set, his serve was totally gone. As Nadal was playing very solid ground game, the weak and inconfindent serves making long rallies, I guess, was killing Roger.

I'm not trying to make an excuse for his loss. I just had a thing not to understand so try to figure it out. I thought he could win against Nadal and, even at this moment, I think he could've. Yesterday's was not like the SF match at AO, in which Roger was injured and rather outplayed by Safin. I really really feel missing something at yesterday's match.

However, like I said in the other post in this thread, I have to get use to his loss. This is a life. Sometimes God shows no mercy even to his own son(I mean, Roger) :angel: (If my theory is right, the rain delay of the 1st SF match eventually caused Roger's loss :mad: . Well, I don't know)

Sorry for another long post.

Love, everyone :kiss:

mitalidas
06-04-2005, 07:44 PM
I am no longer dwelling on yesterday.... I am sad, but I am also optimistic about the future, and future Roland Garros titles for Roger
As all of you know, I did not have the courage to watch the match so I taped it. As soon as it was over, I taped over the tape so I don't even accidentally have to watch it.

Also, just want everyone to be prepared that if nadal wins tomorrow (and yes, I say IF) then, he will be tied with Roger at #1 in the race. But not for long I AM VERY SURE.

GO ROGER!

Nathy
06-05-2005, 12:17 AM
@soonha: agree with you that if his serve had been at its usual level Roger could have won the match!!!

@mitalidas: so am I very sure! I don't think Nadal's going to disturb Rogi on grass :devil:

And everyone, don't be sorry for long posts. If you need to, write 3 pages, feel free! In this thread there's no limit or so... Feelings are speaking here, not the head ;)

Love to all of you Rogi Fan's :hug: :hug: :kiss: :kiss:

RonE
06-05-2005, 06:24 AM
You want me to vent? Allright, I will vent:

I HATE ROLAND GARROS!!!!!! I WANT SOMEONE TO NUKE THAT WHOLE PUTRID COMPOUND OUT OF EXISTENCE AND I WANT EVERY CLAY COURT ON THIS PLANET DROWNED IN CEMENT!! THIS FUCKING TOURNAMENT HAS GIVEN ME NOTHING BUT PAIN AND FRUSTRATION THROUGHOUT THE YEARS... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I do feel better now :)

Mrs. B
06-05-2005, 07:10 AM
You want me to vent? Allright, I will vent:

I HATE ROLAND GARROS!!!!!! I WANT SOMEONE TO NUKE THAT WHOLE PUTRID COMPOUND OUT OF EXISTENCE AND I WANT EVERY CLAY COURT ON THIS PLANET DROWNED IN CEMENT!! THIS FUCKING TOURNAMENT HAS GIVEN ME NOTHING BUT PAIN AND FRUSTRATION THROUGHOUT THE YEARS... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I do feel better now :)

erm...Ron, next time you come to Bern, we'll just have to look for a grass court or play indoors, huh? : :scratch:

:lol:

soonha
06-05-2005, 08:16 AM
Ron... That was really you? I'm kinda being scared of you :scared: Just kidding :p

I understand your frustration. It must be like your nightmare has become reality. I myself feel even some guilty and responsible. What if that accident was kind of a bad sign and then I jinxed him? :bigcry:

But now grass season is coming! :banana: Let's cheer up!:woohoo:

SUKTUEN
06-05-2005, 10:37 AM
RonE Clam Down~!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Shabazza
06-05-2005, 10:59 AM
That's really a great thread and after reading your posts i'm feeling much better now!!
I agree with everything written here and it erased my anger and frustration :hug:
I only could watch the end o fthe 4th set and i wished i hadn't :sad: . I asked someone to tape the match, but i'm sure i won't ever watch the whole match.
As allready mentioned, the big difference between this lost and the AO SF is, that I don't have the feeling that Nadal earned this win. For Safin i couldn't feel bad about, cause this was the match of his life, though Roger had MPs in the 4th, there wasn't at any point the feeling he throw the match away. It was just, that day Safin was a tiny bit better then Roger, who was playing his best (with the blisters). And if Roger is playing his best and still losing, how can i get mad about it! :)

This time I was really fucking pissed about his game (in the 4th) and alltough i like Nadal (he reminds me a bit of Muster who i admired for his "never give up a point!"- attitude) he shouldn't have won this match, it was a present from Roger.
Saying that I don't have a grudge against Nadal and I wish he would win this years RG.
However, knowing those 2 will definitely face each other at the Masters, Roger will kick that boys ass. :angel:

SUKTUEN
06-05-2005, 11:09 AM
Shabazza Roger and Nadal~~ Who you love more ?

yanchr
06-05-2005, 11:54 AM
Ron, that is good for you and all of us.

I HATE CLAY AND HATE ROLAND GARROS :fiery: But I feel one day Roger will have it.

SUKTUEN
06-05-2005, 12:04 PM
Yess~~~!!!

Roger will take this Cup in 2006~!!

lunahielo
06-05-2005, 12:34 PM
Way to go, Ron!

Seeing your post actually made me feel better!
Thanks.
I hope it made you feel better, too!


Now it's on to Halle.

Goooooooooooooooooooooo Roger!!!

Shabazza
06-05-2005, 01:09 PM
Shabazza Roger and Nadal~~ Who you love more ?
What a question! :rolleyes: Roger of course!!!!! :)
nice Ava Skutuen :cool:

ste
06-05-2005, 01:16 PM
:sad::sad: :sad::sad: :sad::sad:Whyyyyyy???????????????????????????????? ????????????????? :sad::sad: :sad::sad: :sad:

Shabazza
06-05-2005, 01:26 PM
:sad::sad: :sad::sad: :sad::sad:Whyyyyyy???????????????????????????????? ????????????????? :sad::sad: :sad::sad: :sad:
That was exactly my first thought after he lost......
I think u need to change your ava ste - he will but not this year :sad:

ste
06-05-2005, 01:34 PM
That was exactly my first thought after he lost......
I think u need to change your ava ste - he will but not this year :sad:

thx Stefan :hug: - that was also my first thought... I would have gone to Paris if he would have won..:sad: but now I am here sitting in front of my PC .. :sad:

I did change it already...

Nathy
06-05-2005, 01:59 PM
You want me to vent? Allright, I will vent:

I HATE ROLAND GARROS!!!!!! I WANT SOMEONE TO NUKE THAT WHOLE PUTRID COMPOUND OUT OF EXISTENCE AND I WANT EVERY CLAY COURT ON THIS PLANET DROWNED IN CEMENT!! THIS FUCKING TOURNAMENT HAS GIVEN ME NOTHING BUT PAIN AND FRUSTRATION THROUGHOUT THE YEARS... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I do feel better now :)

Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhh RonE!!! :haha: :haha: :haha: Thaaaaaaat riiiiiight! The main point is that you may feel better then :hug:

Nathy
06-05-2005, 02:08 PM
However, knowing those 2 will definitely face each other at the Masters, Roger will kick that boys ass. :angel:

Oooooooohhhhh Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah he will (otherwise I will kick Rogi's ass :p :devil: :tape: )

Nathy
06-05-2005, 02:10 PM
I did change it already...

Awww :sad:

:hug: ste :hug:

Nocko
06-05-2005, 02:55 PM
Rogi destroyed his game :sad:
Rogi lost to himself :crying2:
Rogi beated himself :bigcry: ( of course Nadal did well and push Rogi...but...)
Rogi Rogi Rogi, You have no reason to loose your confidence :confused: :crying2:
I don't want to see a maniac stroker who stack far behind baseline will grab the title. :mad: I hate it. :fiery: I hate it.( I don't hate Nadal. he is a great athrete physically and mentally. and he is fair. but still I don't like to see him to win.)
I hate it. :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
I believe someday most completed player will win this title. :woohoo: Maybe
NEXT!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


:worship: Thanks Lina. :worship:

SUKTUEN
06-05-2005, 02:58 PM
What a question! :rolleyes: Roger of course!!!!! :)
nice Ava Skutuen :cool:

YES~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

lina_seta
06-05-2005, 04:56 PM
even though i knew rafa will win RG i still wished for some kind fo upset...
but mariano puerta did such a great job!!! he had soooo many set poitns that could have taken it to a five setter.... but waisted them (the point in wich he gave the set away was soooo dumb he volley it right into nadal with little force T_T)

that being said i only wanted a 5 setter to do justice to himself that played so well... not so much becuz i thoguht he could win everything :)


but my irrational thoguhts are coming... i hate to c that rafa won and no action of his can change my current... HATRED!!!!! that is i said it :devil: :fiery: :smash: :lol: :banghead: :retard: :silly: :cuckoo:
yes quite crazy right now... but he is blacklisted muahahaha and i wont even say "congratulations" becuz i would lie to myself and stab my heart, so i wont!! sue me if u want!

lunahielo
06-05-2005, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by lina_seta
yes quite crazy right now... but he is blacklisted muahahaha and i wont even say "congratulations" becuz i would lie to myself and stab my heart, so i wont!! sue me if u want!
It is good that you are getting your feelings out, Lila.......

I kinda still feel the same way about Nadal...Kinda nothing..I do! :eek:
But all feelings are fine. Especially in a place where you feel safe.
I will probably think this way about that match,too~~~~'till Roger wins his next match...which I am sure will be Tuesday at Halle~~~~~~so

To you~~~> lots of :hug: :hug:
To Roger~~~>Go out and kick some major ass in Germany! :)

Whistleway
06-05-2005, 05:19 PM
I, like you, want to see Roger having fun on the court again.

Thanks luna, that was a gem !!

lina_seta
06-05-2005, 05:31 PM
It is good that you are getting your feelings out, Lila.......

I kinda still feel the same way about Nadal...Kinda nothing..I do! :eek:
But all feelings are fine. Especially in a place where you feel safe.
I will probably think this way about that match,too~~~~'till Roger wins his next match...which I am sure will be Tuesday at Halle~~~~~~so

To you~~~> lots of :hug: :hug:
To Roger~~~>Go out and kick some major ass in Germany! :)

thank you luna =)
and many :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: to u too!

soonha
06-05-2005, 07:35 PM
Still I think Roger could've have won that match. He just blew away his chance by the unexplainable pathetic performance.

In other words, when he plays at his best, he can win any time any year. :devil:

He is only 23. He will be able to win FO at least once(or twice, hopefully :angel: ) in his career.

We need to be patient. He can do this!!!! :bowdown:

Mane
06-05-2005, 07:52 PM
hey! I'm new here!

ania_flor
06-05-2005, 07:56 PM
What????????????? :mad: :mad: :mad:
That's what I said when I found out that Roger had lost. :sad: :sad:
I was in my house for the first and second set, but I had an important exam at school and had to leave in the beggining of the third.
I was taking the test which took me an hour and a half, so when I leave the class I turn on my cell to tell my mom that I had passed the test, but I found a message from my dad. He said that he had a really bad news. "Nadal won"
What?????????????????????????? :mad: :mad:
My friends didn't understand anything until I explained them that my favourite tennis player had lost in the semis of Roland Garros.
I had to stay in school for another 3 hours and that entire time I couldn't focuse in anything I did. I felt like crying and everyone could tell something was wrong with me. I was in a crappy mood for the rest of the day. I got home, turned on the TV, and told myself that I was going to watch the match, but in the end when Nadal threw himself to the ground it was too much, I turned it of and went to sleep. It was a horrible feeling. Pretty similar to the one I have today after Mariano Puerta lost.
It makes me sad to think that one of Roger's worst matches was this one. Against Nadal, one of the tennis players that I less like.
I'm just happy now that clay season ended.
I'll wait for Wimby and watch Roger defend his title. ;) ;) ;) ;)
Ania :) :) :) :)

ste
06-05-2005, 08:18 PM
Awww :sad:

:hug: ste :hug:


thx Nathy :hug::hug::hug:

Daniel
06-05-2005, 09:05 PM
I dislike Nadal so much . I dont hate him but this loss make sme feels so sad and deppressed :( :bigcry:

Nathy
06-05-2005, 09:49 PM
I dislike Nadal so much . I dont hate him but this loss make sme feels so sad and deppressed :( :bigcry:

Awwww nooo dry your tears Dan' :hug: :kiss: :hug:

Nathy
06-05-2005, 09:51 PM
:hug: Ania :hug:

Yeah I understand what you felt like and you were at school :(


I'm just happy now that clay season ended.
I'll wait for Wimby and watch Roger defend his title. ;) ;) ;) ;)
Ania :) :) :) :)

That's what we all have to have in mind right now! Think of nothing but GRASS, green stuff for a month!! Go Roger :worship:

lunahielo
06-05-2005, 09:55 PM
Daniel~~~ :sad:
One good thing..he still hasn't lost a final.......... :)

To you~~~~~> :hug:

Daniel
06-05-2005, 10:00 PM
Thanks Lunahielo and Nathy :)

Rommella
06-06-2005, 05:06 AM
What's this I read that Joachim Johansson's birthday falls on July 1, which may fall within the Wimbledon semifinals week?

Aaargh!!! Please, let not Joachim fall in Roger's side of the draw! That would just be too much for coincidence, and I am freaking out.

RonE
06-06-2005, 05:15 AM
What's this I read that Joachim Johansson's birthday falls on July 1, which may fall within the Wimbledon semifinals week?

Aaargh!!! Please, let not Joachim fall in Roger's side of the draw! That would just be too much for coincidence, and I am freaking out.

No, let him be on his side of the draw just so that Roger faces and beats him and puts an end to all this superstitious gobbledygook.

Puschkin
06-06-2005, 05:45 AM
No, let him be on his side of the draw just so that Roger faces and beats him and puts an end to all this superstitious gobbledygook.

The voice of reason :worship:

RonE
06-06-2005, 05:46 AM
The voice of reason :worship:

Will you be going to Wimbledon live too by any chance?

Dirk
06-06-2005, 06:47 AM
Good job RonE. I think Roger will come out roaring during the grass season and use his entire weaponary that made him the tennis Ninja. I am glad he is content with his RG showing but next year he will get more fired up about winning it.

sierra91
06-06-2005, 08:02 AM
You want me to vent? Allright, I will vent:

I HATE ROLAND GARROS!!!!!! I WANT SOMEONE TO NUKE THAT WHOLE PUTRID COMPOUND OUT OF EXISTENCE AND I WANT EVERY CLAY COURT ON THIS PLANET DROWNED IN CEMENT!! THIS FUCKING TOURNAMENT HAS GIVEN ME NOTHING BUT PAIN AND FRUSTRATION THROUGHOUT THE YEARS... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I do feel better now :)

So do I. That was exhausting but just what the doctor ordered!!! :smoke:

Puschkin
06-06-2005, 09:02 AM
Will you be going to Wimbledon live too by any chance?

Nope! I won't. On a superstitous note: as being me present obviously brings no luck to Roger ;) , I'll follow Wimbledom on the TV only :p .

yanchr
06-06-2005, 11:36 AM
No, let him be on his side of the draw just so that Roger faces and beats him and puts an end to all this superstitious gobbledygook.
Right on there :worship:

But you still won't be forgiven for sth you know what :banghead::fiery:

Nocko
06-06-2005, 12:30 PM
I'm still depressed so much. :sad: I know I should escape from this negative mood.
Too dificult, isn't it? Rogi , Please win Wimby. Until then, I can't come up. :worship: :worship: :worship:

Now, another tournament starts.( uhhh, what a crazy schedule!! it kill many top players!!)Maybe we should change our mood to very positive!!

You are the king. You are the champion. You are the most completed player in the history. Now you should improve mentally and physicaliy .

BE COOL!!

ytben
06-06-2005, 12:34 PM
Is that really you Ron??? What happened to our superstitious Ron??? :eek: I actually don't believe all the birthday hogwash too, but certainly will prefer to see Pim2 on the otherside of the draw.

Yeah before this year I am only indifferent toward clay, but now safe to say that I HATE CLAY!!!! And this considering I don't have RG coverage at all....
Guess what I just saw as the main headline of the most prestigious newspaper in my country...... "Don't call Nadal a teenager, call him king" :rolleyes:

yanchr
06-06-2005, 12:45 PM
Guess what I just saw as the main headline of the most prestigious newspaper in my country...... "Don't call Nadal a teenager, call him king" :rolleyes:
Guess what my local sports channel said about Nadal in a short TV serie: king of clay is ONLY king of 'clay' and he is not good enough to do a damage to the Federer Empire :lol::worship:

ytben
06-06-2005, 12:51 PM
Guess what my local sports channel said about Nadal in a short TV serie: king of clay is ONLY king of 'clay' and he is not good enough to do a damage to the Federer Empire :lol::worship:

So looks like the media in your country has much higher quality than mine :o :p

babsi
06-06-2005, 02:05 PM
Wasn´t so long they called Safin "King"
- it´s all just bullogs (for our american friends)
bullshit for the rest ( who are actueally aloud to see a word like that in writting or hear it on TV)!

WyveN
06-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Yeah before this year I am only indifferent toward clay, but now safe to say that I HATE CLAY!!!!

:lol: Glad more people see the light ;)

TimoRinrin
06-06-2005, 02:22 PM
Wasn´t so long they called Safin "King"
- it´s all just bullogs (for our american friends)
bullshit for the rest ( who are actueally aloud to see a word like that in writting or hear it on TV)!


Yes . Time will turn out that Roger is the REAL KING :angel:

TimoRinrin
06-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Guess what my local sports channel said about Nadal in a short TV serie: king of clay is ONLY king of 'clay' and he is not good enough to do a damage to the Federer Empire :lol::worship:


Very good comment :D :D

SUKTUEN
06-06-2005, 03:03 PM
Roger is Always the King~!!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

Forever~!!! :clap2: :bigclap: :bigclap:

lsy
06-06-2005, 03:05 PM
:haha: :haha:

Ron had finally let his DARK side taken over here...:scared:

This thread should be viewed only by Fed fans, it's not like we haven't been called "freaks" enough :haha: :tape:

Nice to see all of you here venting :hug:

SUKTUEN
06-06-2005, 03:07 PM
but I am worry about Roger in Wimby~`

Nathy
06-06-2005, 04:42 PM
Guess what my local sports channel said about Nadal in a short TV serie: king of clay is ONLY king of 'clay' and he is not good enough to do a damage to the Federer Empire :lol::worship:

OMG :eek: That is so TRUE :worship:

Hey you other "journalists" read this and put it into your mind ;) (en français: prenez-en de la graine ;) ) :p

soonha
06-06-2005, 05:26 PM
Many people are saying of a rivalry between Rofi and Nadal...

Rivalry? What rivalry? Rivalry ON CLAY? What A rivalry! :o

babsi
06-06-2005, 05:31 PM
:haha: :haha:

Ron had finally let his DARK side taken over here...:scared:

This thread should be viewed only by Fed fans, it's not like we haven't been called "freaks" enough :haha: :tape:

Nice to see all of you here venting :hug:
Freaks RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nathy
06-06-2005, 06:10 PM
Many people are saying of a rivalry between Rogi and Nadal... :o

Rivalry? What rivalry? Rivalry ON CLAY? What a rivalry! :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Minnie
06-06-2005, 10:15 PM
I was still feeling a bit down everytime I thought of Friday at RG - until I thought that maybe if Rog had played his BEST EVER clay court game and still lost, I'd have been not just sad, but worried! Perhaps that's why he said today that he didn't feel too depressed about it. It was just "one of those bad days at the office" as Andre says!

Then later on this afternoon, as I was watching the Stella Artois on TV (our Greg got past the 1st round thankfully!), the commentators, John Lloyd, Peter Fleming and Sue Barker (she who makes Rog cry at Wimby!) started discussing Rog and they all came to the unanimous agreement that without doubt Roger IS the best player in the world, despite the hype about Nadal. They all hoped that Roger would win the French at some time - John Lloyd said he thought it was inevitable and no one deserved the "career slam" more because he is such a great player - and "he's such a nice bloke". They also showed a kind of 10-15 minute biog of him from when he was 3 (so cute!) to him beating Sampras at Wimby in 2001. That brought a lump to my throat because the crowd were giving him a tremendous ovation at the end, and he was clapping them with his racquet, then burst into tears! I think that's when us Brits really took him to our hearts! They showed other bits + pieces of his charity work, and clips from an interview (not sure when this was done but probably last year) when he said he'd like to meet Madonna (huh? Ah well!) and Sean Connery - because he played James Bond! Now the latter I definitely go along with! Pity I didn't know it was coming on as I would have recorded it. Anyway, it cheered me up because it made me remember just how good he is on grass and how at home he looks on it. And as he said at the end of his interview today - his rivals will have a hard job taking the No 1 spot away from him - too right they will!!

Nathy
06-06-2005, 10:23 PM
I was still feeling a bit down everytime I thought of Friday at RG - until I thought that maybe if Rog had played his BEST EVER clay court game and still lost, I'd have been not just sad, but worried! Perhaps that's why he said today that he didn't feel too depressed about it. It was just "one of those bad days at the office" as Andre says!

Then later on this afternoon, as I was watching the Stella Artois on TV (our Greg got past the 1st round thankfully!), the commentators, John Lloyd, Peter Fleming and Sue Barker (she who makes Rog cry at Wimby!) started discussing Rog and they all came to the unanimous agreement that without doubt Roger IS the best player in the world, despite the hype about Nadal. They all hoped that Roger would win the French at some time - John Lloyd said he thought it was inevitable and no one deserved the "career slam" more because he is such a great player - and "he's such a nice bloke". They also showed a kind of 10-15 minute biog of him from when he was 3 (so cute!) to him beating Sampras at Wimby in 2001. That brought a lump to my throat because the crowd were giving him a tremendous ovation at the end, and he was clapping them with his racquet, then burst into tears! I think that's when us Brits really took him to our hearts! They showed other bits + pieces of his charity work, and clips from an interview (not sure when this was done but probably last year) when he said he'd like to meet Madonna (huh? Ah well!) and Sean Connery - because he played James Bond! Now the latter I definitely go along with! Pity I didn't know it was coming on as I would have recorded it. Anyway, it cheered me up because it made me remember just how good he is on grass and how at home he looks on it. And as he said at the end of his interview today - his rivals will have a hard job taking the No 1 spot away from him - too right they will!!

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

So beautiful :sad: :sad: I wish I could have seen this... I'm sure I would have cried seeing him crying at Wimby... Roger IS the King and others are far away from his wonderful tennis!

Shabazza
06-06-2005, 10:56 PM
So true, Minnie, so true! :worship:
man, this reminds me of that match 2001 - i should have taped it -really want to see it again :sad: - damn it :(

Stevens Point
06-06-2005, 11:23 PM
So true, Minnie, so true! :worship:
man, this reminds me of that match 2001 - i should have taped it -really want to see it again :sad: - damn it :(
Look what I found!! Check back in Wimbledon thread in 5 minutes from now!!

lunahielo
06-07-2005, 12:09 AM
Awwwwww~~Minnie, that made my heart smile.
Thanks so much. :smooch:

Luna

lina_seta
06-07-2005, 01:51 AM
awww so touching.. i would have wanted to watch that program!!!! as ive only "read" federer's life not seen it.... only in small clips of tourneys...

FEDERER IS THE BEST!!! nadal is the ursurper hehe... more hype than accomplishment :( and now with it many want to turn roger into the big, bad federer against the sweet, nice, cute nadal :rolleyes: incredible...

as i say always... sacriledge! (my everyday word for outrageous hehe)

im soo very glad that roger is in the brittish's heart... they will support roger until the end in wimbly!!! :D :D

RogiFan88
06-07-2005, 03:27 AM
That is lovely, Minnie! Not just the Brits who took Rogi to their hearts either -- look at all the fans fr all over the world! ;) I loved watching Rogi cry 3 times on Centre Court: when he upset Sampras in 2001, when he first won Wimby and last year when he defended Wimby... I also remember him crying when he won his first TMS in Hamburg in 2002... just so touching and genuine! That's why we love him so much.

Nocko
06-07-2005, 03:44 AM
Yeah, exactlly, RogiFan88!
and I want to see anoter happy cry of Rogi after F this years Wimby. :hug:

yanchr
06-07-2005, 05:59 AM
And as he said at the end of his interview today - his rivals will have a hard job taking the No 1 spot away from him - too right they will!!
Thanks Minnie for sending us this info from him and all the other stuff by your commentator :hug: It gives me much comfort hearing him claim that again.

And not only Brits took him to heart, but all his fans in every corner of the world did!!!

Minnie, let's forget RG :wavey: It's time for the ruling GRASS :bounce:

RonE
06-07-2005, 06:34 AM
Right on there :worship:

But you still won't be forgiven for sth you know what :banghead::fiery:

Hey- I stayed as far away as possible from MTF during most of RG, didn't even watch it on tv. I did my part :p

RonE
06-07-2005, 06:41 AM
Yeah before this year I am only indifferent toward clay, but now safe to say that I HATE CLAY!!!!

You have finally seen the light.

federer_roar
06-07-2005, 07:24 AM
okay I admit. I was depressed by the friday's match and away from FO and this website since then. This thread is great. It makes me feel at home again :p .

SUKTUEN
06-07-2005, 03:58 PM
I think Grass one thread is enough

Minnie
06-07-2005, 09:54 PM
I don't have a lot of time to post here, so glad what I wrote cheered you all up. II really would have liked to record it - but it came on unexpectedly and didn't realise it would last as long as it did - and I was in the middle of ironing! I've heard that he's playing in a doubles exhibition match of Real Tennis (the old English game from Henry VIII's time) down at Hampton Court Palace on June 15, partnering a BBC commentator. They are playing the British World Real tennis champions - must admit, didn't know we had any! Hope he can understand the rules, as I couldn't! (But then, I can't speak 3 languages!).

PaulieM
06-08-2005, 02:45 PM
okay I admit. I was depressed by the friday's match and away from FO and this website since then. This thread is great. It makes me feel at home again :p .
this is my first day back here since the match, i really took that one hard. eventually i'll get over it though, i hope. :sad:

Nathy
06-08-2005, 02:46 PM
this is my first day back here since the match, i really took that one hard. eventually i'll get over it though, i hope. :sad:

Awww :hug:

PaulieM
06-08-2005, 02:53 PM
i can't stop thinking about the match. i just hate the fact that roger played like shit, i mean he really did, he looked nothing like himself and it was just bad. i'm really thankful for this thread because of course if you said this in GM then you're just a bitter fan. i just hope roger really thinks about this match, i felt like he came out there with the wrong gameplan and then everything just fell apart. i won't go on about it but i'm definitely still mad at him and tennis in general right now. :( whoever thinks it's not hard to be a fed fan is dumb, because it's just as hard as being a fan of anybody else sometimes worsei think.

mitalidas
06-08-2005, 02:59 PM
I am gradually getting over it, but Gawd its taking time :sad:
I fully believe in Roger however and I am very sure he will come back strong. I was very disappointed about RG, not just the result but that it was like a gift to thuggy, not bringing his best stuff out.

Puschkin
06-08-2005, 03:04 PM
whoever thinks it's not hard to be a fed fan is dumb, because it's just as hard as being a fan of anybody else sometimes worsei think.

Nope, it is not hard to be a Roger-fan ;) :wavey: . I am a fan of Marat, too and believe me, this is so much harder.

Skyward
06-08-2005, 03:33 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Roger should give up that ridicilous camaraderie stuff. I mean could you imagine Sampras doing a photosession with Agassi/Becker/Ivanisevic before the highly anticipated match in a GS? I don't want him to become Rios who wouldn't say hello on an elevator, but in my opinion he should keep a distance between himself and other guys and stop being so accessible to the media. It could help him to save some energy and nerves.

Puschkin
06-08-2005, 03:37 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Roger should give up that ridicilous camaraderie stuff. I mean could you imagine Sampras doing a photosession with Agassi/Becker/Ivanisevic before the highly anticipated match in a GS?

I think both guys would have preferred to avoid this, but Nike must have been stronger, maybe it was also a contract thing!

Nathy
06-08-2005, 03:37 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Roger should give up that ridicilous camaraderie stuff. I mean could you imagine Sampras doing a photosession with Agassi/Becker/Ivanisevic before the highly anticipated match in a GS? I don't want him to become Rios who wouldn't say hello on an elevator, but in my opinion he should keep a distance between himself and other guys and stop being so accessible to the media. It could help him to save some energy and nerves.

It one point that makes him remarquable: the world number one so acessible...

But anyhow I agree that maybe stopping this would make him save some energy.. But I don't want him to stop

Lady Natalia
06-08-2005, 03:41 PM
Nope, it is not hard to be a Roger-fan ;) :wavey: . I am a fan of Marat, too and believe me, this is so much harder.

I think what it is...is that Fed fans are not use to Roger losing. Now, I have been a Roger fan since Wimbledon 2001. And the following two years left him losing a bit. But while watching him grow in greatest and the fruition of it in 2003-2004. Roger is showing us that he is at the level of the top-upper echelon of players in history. Roger has had a really good year so far. Only three losses, 6 months into the year. Not many players, in history, can boast that. Our Roger made it to the semis of Roland Garros. Yes, it was the perfect opportunity for him to win it, but C'est la vie.

We FEDERERS have nothing to worry about. Roger is going to end the year with around 6 losses. Hopefully, none in GS. So we are going to have to brace ourselves and take these very few and far between losses gracefully (like our Roger does). I think fans represent their players and like Roger, I believe, we should take this loss but do not let it begin to question him. This man, in the modern era of entourages, won 3 GS flying solo. I think he has proved that he knows what to do.

We FEDERERS just need to sit back on the Federer Express and enjoy the ride. Go to the new Dining Wagon and have a drink. Unlike Marat, Roddick, Hewitt, Henman, Coria, Ferrero, Moya, Agassi… fans our ride is like floating on clouds. While they are walking on glass with bare feet. I say all that to say…We got it good.
http://www.crystal-cure.com/pics/diamond2.jpg

SUKTUEN
06-08-2005, 03:48 PM
Roger keep relax~!!! :wavey:

You can do it~!! You can play very well~!!! :devil:
Forget the pressure please!! :D :D

lsy
06-08-2005, 03:58 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that Roger should give up that ridicilous camaraderie stuff. I mean could you imagine Sampras doing a photosession with Agassi/Becker/Ivanisevic before the highly anticipated match in a GS? I don't want him to become Rios who wouldn't say hello on an elevator, but in my opinion he should keep a distance between himself and other guys and stop being so accessible to the media. It could help him to save some energy and nerves.

Anyway, I read this from SI :

Quick story: last Thursday, the ATP communications staff shrewdly arranged a pre-match photo-op with Nadal and Federer. In the middle of the day, they posed side-by-side on a gangplank at Roland Garros. The result looked like a boxing poster, and the whole thing was very cool. A lot of players in Federer's shoes never would have consented to this -- Sampras and Agassi come immediately to mind.

I've won four Majors and you want me to pose with this upstart teenager like he's my equal?

Yet there Federer was, smiling and even placing his arm around Nadal. "See you tomorrow," he said cheerfully. Part of me admired Federer for being such a sport and "taking one for the team." Another part of me felt like telling him, "Dude, you're the king. Start acting like it!"

=========================================

For me, having that photo session is no big deal, but after reading so many articles of taking Rogi's quote out of context creating stories of their own, I do actually hope he will stop being so co-operative with the media :rolleyes: but isn't that why everybody likes him? Though more likely than not the more he sees himself being misquoted, the less I'm sure he will be talking with the media...

I'll post the whole piece from SI in other thread

SUKTUEN
06-08-2005, 04:00 PM
thanks~~

Action Jackson
06-08-2005, 04:03 PM
Nothing to depressed about Federer is still the best player in the world by a big margin. He loses a match there is no need to freak out, and yes I have seen enough of this already.

Lady Nathalia is very right in saying that fans do represent the player, well there are always extremists, but they are minority and at the same time it can help put off people of a player if the fans are over the top.

SUKTUEN
06-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Roger Of course is World No. 1~~~!!!

lsy
06-08-2005, 04:09 PM
Lady Nathalia is very right in saying that fans do represent the player, well there are always extremists, but they are minority and at the same time it can help put off people of a player if the fans are over the top.

No doubt.

Fed freaks though or some reasons only live in GM, not in this forum and GM is garbage mostly.

SUKTUEN
06-08-2005, 04:14 PM
is Roger day off today?

soonha
06-08-2005, 04:16 PM
i can't stop thinking about the match. i just hate the fact that roger played like shit, i mean he really did, he looked nothing like himself and it was just bad. .
Welcome back, PaulieM. I missed you :hug:.

We all were disappointed with his SF match at RG and now suffering from some sort of hang-over. However, just look on the bright side. Yes, he really did play badly, which didn't look like him. Nonetheless it was a close match which he could have won. He seemed to blow his chances away by his own hand. But, at the same time, it also showed us he's totally capable of winning at RG- many people have doubted this for a long time- as well as defeating any clay specialist including Nadal, whenever he is on. So we rather should be pleased to and celebrating his first SF.

We fans are just not used to his off-form and painful losses, which is natural since it's too rare, only 6 times a year or 3 times in 6 mo? We just have to learn how to deal with them. Sooner the better(for your mental heath).

SUKTUEN
06-08-2005, 04:34 PM
Roger ~~ More careful next match~!!!

GOOD LUCK~!!!

PaulieM
06-08-2005, 04:38 PM
I think what it is...is that Fed fans are not use to Roger losing. Now, I have been a Roger fan since Wimbledon 2001. And the following two years left him losing a bit. But while watching him grow in greatest and the fruition of it in 2003-2004. Roger is showing us that he is at the level of the top-upper echelon of players in history. Roger has had a really good year so far. Only three losses, 6 months into the year. Not many players, in history, can boast that. Our Roger made it to the semis of Roland Garros. Yes, it was the perfect opportunity for him to win it, but C'est la vie.

We FEDERERS have nothing to worry about. Roger is going to end the year with around 6 losses. Hopefully, none in GS. So we are going to have to brace ourselves and take these very few and far between losses gracefully (like our Roger does). I think fans represent their players and like Roger, I believe, we should take this loss but do not let it begin to question him. This man, in the modern era of entourages, won 3 GS flying solo. I think he has proved that he knows what to do.

We FEDERERS just need to sit back on the Federer Express and enjoy the ride. Go to the new Dining Wagon and have a drink. Unlike Marat, Roddick, Hewitt, Henman, Coria, Ferrero, Moya, Agassi… fans our ride is like floating on clouds. While they are walking on glass with bare feet. I say all that to say…We got it good.
http://www.crystal-cure.com/pics/diamond2.jpg
what i meant by it being hard to be a fed fan at times is at least with this match he really could have won it and it made me sad to see him play the way he did. compared to a lot of other fans we might have it pretty easy but it's hard in a different way. i can't explain it very well but i know that since i've started following him really closely over the past few years it's become a lot more emotional for me than it used to be, sometimes you'd think i'd was playing out there from how upset i get seeing him look like he's really pissed with the way he's playing etc. for me that's hard to watch and this match was one of those where i wasn't so much sad about him losing as i was about the way the match felt. i don't know if that made any sense.

RogiFan88
06-08-2005, 04:39 PM
I don't have a lot of time to post here, so glad what I wrote cheered you all up. II really would have liked to record it - but it came on unexpectedly and didn't realise it would last as long as it did - and I was in the middle of ironing! I've heard that he's playing in a doubles exhibition match of Real Tennis (the old English game from Henry VIII's time) down at Hampton Court Palace on June 15, partnering a BBC commentator. They are playing the British World Real tennis champions - must admit, didn't know we had any! Hope he can understand the rules, as I couldn't! (But then, I can't speak 3 languages!).

I was wondering when Rogi was going to Hampton Court! I hope he wears traditional outfit too!

Can you post this on the Wimby thread too? That w be great!! Thanks! ;)

Oh, and if this is in any UK papers or on TV, let us know!

Action Jackson
06-08-2005, 04:39 PM
No doubt.

Fed freaks though or some reasons only live in GM, not in this forum and GM is garbage mostly.

Come on lsy, I have enough credit to know what is not garbage and I do remember the Fed fans in here when he was just potential and wasn't winning as much.

I mean it's irritating when people question and call me a Federer hater, when I like the guy, but I am not going to bow to him. He loses a match it happens, there is a fine line between discussing the match and making poor excuses.

SUKTUEN
06-08-2005, 04:39 PM
Roger may be tired after RG

Minnie
06-08-2005, 07:38 PM
I was wondering when Rogi was going to Hampton Court! I hope he wears traditional outfit too!

Can you post this on the Wimby thread too? That w be great!! Thanks! ;)

Oh, and if this is in any UK papers or on TV, let us know!

I certainly will let you all know any news. It doesn't seem to be very well publicised here - or perhaps I read the wrong newspapers! I will post it on the Wimby thread probably at the weekend when I have more time.

soonha
06-08-2005, 08:07 PM
I certainly will let you all know any news. It doesn't seem to be very well publicised here - or perhaps I read the wrong newspapers! I will post it on the Wimby thread probably at the weekend when I have more time.
I've been there, the Hampton Court. It was a lovely and quiet country-house-like place. I loved it esp. the rose garden! :angel: I think that place suits really well with Roger's classy tennis.

RogiFan88
06-08-2005, 09:12 PM
GWH do I remember those good ol' days when Rogi was not quite mature yet... how I suffered thru the losses... esp to guys like Haas et al. It did take a little while for Rogi to finally fulfil his promise, unlike Rafa, Pandy, Marat and Lleyton but all in good time... Rogi can't be hurried... his kind of genius has to bloom in its own time... ;)

*M*
06-09-2005, 02:23 AM
what i meant by it being hard to be a fed fan at times is at least with this match he really could have won it and it made me sad to see him play the way he did. compared to a lot of other fans we might have it pretty easy but it's hard in a different way. i can't explain it very well but i know that since i've started following him really closely over the past few years it's become a lot more emotional for me than it used to be, sometimes you'd think i'd was playing out there from how upset i get seeing him look like he's really pissed with the way he's playing etc. for me that's hard to watch and this match was one of those where i wasn't so much sad about him losing as i was about the way the match felt. i don't know if that made any sense.Yes, it's difficult when you see him playing that way, seeing the frustration and knowing how he's capable of playing. We've been spoiled the last couple years in seeing him able to step it up at the crucial times.

I think he wanted it just a little too badly. I felt that way when he lost at the Olympics also. At the beginning of the tournament I think he just hoped to go further than last year. Once he made it through to the semis, though, I think the realization that he could win the whole thing really began to hit him. Having to wait two days (what's up with that?) plus the rain delay and the first match probably didn't help much. I hope we see a different, more confident Roger at Wimbledon. We know how much he wants that, too!

Before the match I thought it'd be similar to Miami. I figured Rafa would come out slugging and win the first set. Then I thought Roger would steadily improve and win it in four. Unfortunately, the only portion I got to see live was the beginning of the second set, when I went home for lunch. At that point it seemed like Roger was turning the match around. After returning to work I was too busy to track the live scores -- was so disappointed seeing the result after the whole thing was over.

A couple hours later, my aunt called me. She'd taken my other aunt (her older sister) to the hospital the day before because of dizziness. Now she was calling to tell me that the aunt in the hospital was in critical condition, on life support, and they were trying to stabilize her vital signs. Well, that makes you put things into perspective real quick! I suddenly stopped caring about the match, and I still don't really care about it. Always gotta remember, in the end it's just a game (for us, at least. For Roger it's his livelihood). My aunt, BTW, is doing a little better. She had an operation but is still in critical care -- we shall see what happens.

On the other hand, tennis can be an outlet too. Ironically I received another phone call the other day reminding me of that, but I'll spare you that long story (for now at least :)).

Nighty-night, all! :zzz:

lunahielo
06-09-2005, 11:36 AM
To *M*~~~~~~~:hug: :hug:

Nathy
06-09-2005, 01:43 PM
Awww *M* :hug: Hope you aunt will get better soon :hug:

SUKTUEN
06-09-2005, 04:33 PM
Takecare M~~~ :hug: :hug:

Daniel
06-09-2005, 10:06 PM
*M* :wavey:

*M*
06-10-2005, 01:02 AM
Thanks to everyone who has expressed their concern -- I really appreciate it! :hug:

Nathy
06-10-2005, 01:10 AM
Thanks to everyone who has expressed their concern -- I really appreciate it! :hug:

That's just normal we want you to be happy :hug:

SUKTUEN
06-10-2005, 02:28 PM
為什麼啦? :play more and motr !!!!

Minnie
06-10-2005, 11:51 PM
I was wondering when Rogi was going to Hampton Court! I hope he wears traditional outfit too!

Can you post this on the Wimby thread too? That w be great!! Thanks! ;)

Oh, and if this is in any UK papers or on TV, let us know!

Have given update on this in the Wimby thread. :wavey:

RogiFan88
06-11-2005, 02:34 AM
thanks, minnie!

Daniel
06-12-2005, 12:55 AM
I am having a stomache again :fiery:

SUKTUEN
06-12-2005, 09:53 AM
To Daneil :hug: :hug:

Daniel
06-16-2005, 03:44 AM
Dementieva :sad:

RogiNie
06-16-2005, 01:23 PM
:sobbing: :crying2:

SUKTUEN
06-16-2005, 04:18 PM
What 's wrong in Dementieva?

Nathy
06-16-2005, 06:34 PM
What 's wrong in Dementieva?

I think she got injured and cannot attend to Wimbledon :unsure:

Daniel
06-18-2005, 10:02 PM
Douchy :sad:

SUKTUEN
06-19-2005, 10:07 AM
i CANNOT SLEEP

ste
06-20-2005, 06:33 AM
do that TRIPLE Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana::banana::banana:

SUKTUEN
06-20-2005, 10:32 AM
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :devil: :devil:

ROGER~~~!!!!!! Fight~!!!!!!!!

Daniel
06-23-2005, 01:09 AM
Roger :D

RogiFan88
09-01-2005, 01:09 PM
Continue your ranting HERE, guys! ;)

Puschkin
09-01-2005, 01:14 PM
no need to rant: I am locking forward to six exquisite evenings:)

lunahielo
09-01-2005, 02:56 PM
:)

PaulieM
09-01-2005, 04:17 PM
I LOVE ROGER, i felt the need to get that out. :D

RogiFan88
09-01-2005, 10:11 PM
Good one, Paulie!!

PamV
09-01-2005, 11:04 PM
I will feel relieved if/when Roger gets through his second round match. It just feels like it's taking so long the week is almost over and Roger still only had one match. I hope they don't schedule him at midnight on Friday.

oneandonlyhsn
09-01-2005, 11:23 PM
I will feel relieved if/when Roger gets through his second round match. It just feels like it's taking so long the week is almost over and Roger still only had one match. I hope they don't schedule him at midnight on Friday.

Me too, I am so nervous about him playing Santoro after such a long layoff. I hate the US Open mainy for the 1st round scheduling over 3 days its just too damn long. Roger played beautifully on Tuesday but he had 3 days off :( I hope he regains hi srythm. Allez Rogi unleash the ninja :armed:


Oh and I am :inlove: with Rogi

PamV
09-01-2005, 11:36 PM
Me too, I am so nervous about him playing Santoro after such a long layoff. I hate the US Open mainy for the 1st round scheduling over 3 days its just too damn long. Roger played beautifully on Tuesday but he had 3 days off :( I hope he regains hi srythm. Allez Rogi unleash the ninja :armed:


Oh and I am :inlove: with Rogi

That's what worries me too. Why do they spread out these early rounds like this? Don't they have enough courts?

oneandonlyhsn
09-02-2005, 01:46 AM
That's what worries me too. Why do they spread out these early rounds like this? Don't they have enough courts?

They have enough courts, its just a matter of being different. 5th set TB, 1st round matches over 3 periods, its just stupid if you ask me

lunahielo
09-02-2005, 02:03 AM
I've got the J. Blake match on and a little while ago JMac said it was considered bad luck to a tennis player to bagel someone in the first set.
I have never heard of this superstition.
Was he kidding?
Is this true?
Am I just a dummy???? (Oops, probably shouldn't have asked that)

PamV
09-02-2005, 02:12 AM
They have enough courts, its just a matter of being different. 5th set TB, 1st round matches over 3 periods, its just stupid if you ask me

So are courts standing idle half the day? What's going on? Oh never mind.

PamV
09-02-2005, 02:20 AM
I've got the J. Blake match on and a little while ago JMac said it was considered bad luck to a tennis player to bagel someone in the first set.
I have never heard of this superstition.
Was he kidding?
Is this true?
Am I just a dummy???? (Oops, probably shouldn't have asked that)

I've never heard that. Roger got the bagel award for giving out the greatest number of bagels last year. LOL!

This match is really good. I hope Blake will play even better in his 3rd round, whomever he faces there......I am not sure. It'd be great to see Blake continue like this. He just as nice as Roger with the same class.

Shy
09-02-2005, 03:18 AM
As of a woman, I am disgusted by all the talk about Mirka weight or looks. There are more to a women than looks.

Playing the first round on three days and the super saturday is very stupid and it doesn't help the player to play well. CBS and Espn have to much control on the USO schedule.

PamV
09-02-2005, 03:34 AM
What is going with Super Saturday? Is that a day when all players play ? Roger has to be really good to put up with this crazy schedule. I hope Santoro is kind to him and loses on purpose to thank Roger for letting him devote Thursday to his two doubles matches.

oneandonlyhsn
09-02-2005, 04:37 AM
As of a woman, I am disgusted by all the talk about Mirka weight or looks. There are more to a women than looks.


Me too, but we live in a cynical world with lots of idiots and we wonder why so many women are anorexic. Nobody in the Fed forum disrespects Mirka, just avoid the trolls over at GM. I have put a few on ignore.

nobama
09-02-2005, 11:14 AM
What is going with Super Saturday? Is that a day when all players play ? Roger has to be really good to put up with this crazy schedule. I hope Santoro is kind to him and loses on purpose to thank Roger for letting him devote Thursday to his two doubles matches.Yeah, I'm sure Santoro will do that. :lol: Is Roger playing on Saturday as well? How do we know? Has the schedule come out yet?

RogiFan88
09-02-2005, 12:58 PM
Sunday

RogiFan88
09-02-2005, 12:59 PM
you have to wait until evening before the next day's schedule comes out -- check the USO site late in the day every day ;)

RogiFan88
09-02-2005, 01:02 PM
USO sched is all for TV ratings

that's why they have this dumb SUPER SATURDAY

so if Rogi makes it all the way thru, he'll play today, sun, mon [all R16], wed qf, sat sf [all men sf] and sun [after the even dumber football]

1sun
09-02-2005, 01:03 PM
shite

PamV
09-02-2005, 01:09 PM
USO sched is all for TV ratings

that's why they have this dumb SUPER SATURDAY

so if Rogi makes it all the way thru, he'll play today, sun, mon [all R16], wed qf, sat sf [all men sf] and sun [after the even dumber football]

So this situation will be making him play back to back Sun/Mon, possibly against Rochus then Kiefer. I hope this won't be a late Sun/ early Mon match thing. I know Roger could manage but I like it as good as possible for him and fair.

The bottom half of the draw will play Sat/Mon.

avocadoe
09-02-2005, 01:27 PM
I think it will be okay...

soonha
09-02-2005, 05:42 PM
USO sched is all for TV ratings

that's why they have this dumb SUPER SATURDAY

so if Rogi makes it all the way thru, he'll play today, sun, mon [all R16], wed qf, sat sf [all men sf] and sun [after the even dumber football]
No, there're schedules for Men's R16 on Tuesday and QF on Thusday according to USO website. So, he will play today, Sun, Tue, Thus, and Sat for SF.

nobama
09-02-2005, 05:44 PM
I'm not concerned. And it's not like Roger's the only one being treated this way. Finally tonight he'll be playing on AA in prime time. :) Go Roger! :woohoo:

nobama
09-02-2005, 06:19 PM
Someone on the Tennis Warehouse Talk Tennis message boards said Roger didn't play R1 on AA at night because people want to see an entertaining match and his wouldn't be. Now of course it wasn't, but how can you predict how a match will turn out? I mean did anyone think Roddick would lose R1? Or that Jenkins would give Rafa a good fight? Plus Minar played Roger hard earlier in the year so there was no way of knowing that Roger would walk all over him. I watched Mauresmo last night and that was such a yawner and over fast. I still think the scheduling is just blatant favoratism for the American players. Didn't that happen in 2003 with the rain delays where they made sure the American players got their matches in and guys like Fererro had to play several days in a row?

SUKTUEN
09-02-2005, 09:46 PM
Roger will stronger

soraya
09-03-2005, 06:21 AM
Someone on the Tennis Warehouse Talk Tennis message boards said Roger didn't play R1 on AA at night because people want to see an entertaining match and his wouldn't be. Now of course it wasn't, but how can you predict how a match will turn out? I mean did anyone think Roddick would lose R1? Or that Jenkins would give Rafa a good fight? Plus Minar played Roger hard earlier in the year so there was no way of knowing that Roger would walk all over him. I watched Mauresmo last night and that was such a yawner and over fast. I still think the scheduling is just blatant favoratism for the American players. Didn't that happen in 2003 with the rain delays where they made sure the American players got their matches in and guys like Fererro had to play several days in a row?

I agree Mirkaland. How can anyone find roddick's game entertaining? bum, bum end of the set...no finesse

PaulieM
11-20-2005, 05:24 PM
*BUMP*

:bigcry: :fiery: :sobbing: :mad:
i don't have the words to express it yet, but i remembered this thread from a few months back and all i know is whatever it is i'm feeling, it belongs in here. :sad:

LCeh
11-20-2005, 06:05 PM
All I can say is, I certainly hope David will be in his quarter at AO 06, that should get him fired up. :lol:

soonha
06-16-2006, 06:17 PM
*BUMP*

This is an old thread, but I need to post in this thread and "get it all out".

It's been a torture to see Roger suffering these days. I was nearly crying today since I really really felt for him.

Having read all the articles and posts in this forum, I was, still am, so upset about how come so many people including even some of his fans were jumping all over him and so harsh on him. Yes, we all wanted him to win the FO. But think about who wanted to win it the most? And who was the most disappointed with the loss? I want to tell them to put on his shoes just for a minute. It's easy to say 'he should've done this and that' from the sideline. He tried but just fell short. So what?

Now he is in Halle. In struggle, which is completely understandable and somewhat expected. I think it's already a superhuman effort that he decided to pick up his racket and came up there right after the heartbreaking loss. If I were him, I would have been sick and tired of just seeing a racket or hearing about tennis for a while. And if he were like anybody else, he would've withdrawn or tanked already in the middle of the tournament. I'm just wondering how he can have pulled through despite of all the struggles and mental exhaustion.

Then again there are people saying he's playing like crap even on grass, why doesn't he withdraw? he's killing himself, blah, blah, blah. OK, eveybody can have own opinion. But hey, do you really expect him to play perfect grass tennis after months of preperation for clay? How couldn't he struggle after the painful and disappointing loss?

I suppose that he decided to play this tourny because firstly he needed matches before entering Wimbledon and secondly and more importantly he wanted to win. I believe that still he wants to win. Whatever the reasons are, now he denies himself as a loser. Then we fans have to support his decision, whatever the consequence will be and how much it will cost him.

I believe nobody knows better than him about what is the best for him. He has made lots of decisions and most of them were right. Let's just have some faith in him and hope he will pull through in the end.

rofe
06-16-2006, 06:43 PM
I understand what you are trying to say and I am not worried about him playing badly at Halle. I expected it after an intense couple of months on clay. What I am more concerned about is that he seems to be very tired out there in Halle and is still giving his everything to win there. I just hope he gets enough rest for Wimbly. Maybe he knows all that and will get plenty of rest but it is hard not to be skeptical about his Wimbly preparation when he is struggling through tiredness in Halle.

*BUMP*

This is an old thread, but I need to post in this thread and "get it all out".

It's been a torture to see Roger suffering these days. I was nearly crying today since I really really felt for him.

Having read all the articles and posts in this forum, I was, still am, so upset about how come so many people including even some of his fans were jumping all over him and so harsh on him. Yes, we all wanted him to win the FO. But think about who wanted to win it the most? And who was the most disappointed with the loss? I want to tell them to put on his shoes just for a minute. It's easy to say 'he should've done this and that' from the sideline. He tried but just fell short. So what?

Now he is in Halle. In struggle, which is completely understandable and somewhat expected. I think it's already a superhuman effort that he decided to pick up his racket and came up there right after the heartbreaking loss. If I were him, I would have been sick and tired of just seeing a racket or hearing about tennis for a while. And if he were like anybody else, he would've withdrawn or tanked already in the middle of the tournament. I'm just wondering how he can have pulled through despite of all the struggles and mental exhaustion.

Then again there are people saying he's playing like crap even on grass, why doesn't he withdraw? he's killing himself, blah, blah, blah. OK, eveybody can have own opinion. But hey, do you really expect him to play perfect grass tennis after months of preperation for clay? How couldn't he struggle after the painful and disappointing loss?

I suppose that he decided to play this tourny because firstly he needed matches before entering Wimbledon and secondly and more importantly he wanted to win. I believe that still he wants to win. Whatever the reasons are, now he denies himself as a loser. Then we fans have to support his decision, whatever the consequence will be and how much it will cost him.

I believe nobody knows better than him about what is the best for him. He has made lots of decisions and most of them were right. Let's just have some faith in him and hope he will pull through in the end.

Skyward
06-16-2006, 06:45 PM
I understand what you are trying to say and I am not worried about him playing badly at Halle. I expected it after an intense couple of months on clay. What I am more concerned about is that he seems to be very tired out there in Halle and is still giving his everything to win there. I just hope he gets enough rest for Wimbly. Maybe he knows all that and will get plenty of rest but it is hard not to be skeptical about his Wimbly preparation when he is struggling through tiredness in Halle.

Yes, I agree 100%.

RogiFan88
06-16-2006, 06:58 PM
Rogi always plays Halle to prepare for Wimby, then he has a week off [a well-deserved one at that and much needed one]. That has been his schedule for at least the last 3 successful years. It has worked for him and he doesn't want to change it.

The fact that he made the RG05 SF and went to Halle and won it, then won Wimby, is remarkable. In 2004, Rogi won Halle, Wimby, then went straight to Gstaad and won that also! He even went to Toronto and won our tournament!

This year he has tried to focus on clay, making the F of MC, Roma and RG. So he didn't win any clay titles. And now he's back in Halle.

Yes, he is struggling. What does one expect? He is not a robot or a machine; he is a human being, w limits and emotions.

I am exhausted just following his scores online. Imagine being Rogi out there, w all the pressure and expectations playing guys who have nothing to lose. Of course they're going to try and beat him and they're getting close. Rogi must be absolutely out of gas, mentally, emotionally, and now, physically after a gruelling clay season and a huge letdown for all his efforts, his concentration, his focus, and to come up at the short end -- well, could it be any more of a disillusion for him?

If I could magically give Rogi just enough strength to lift him thru the SF and F of Halle, I would. If Haas does the deed tomorrow, I would never blame Rogi.

I can't stand Rogi going thru so much of a battle... he's so brave and so professional. He doesn't want to let himself down, nor Rochey, nor his public. It is too heartbreaking...

All the more reason to cheer him on.

People think it's just because of this clay season that Rogi is exhausted and spent. Don't forget that he has been doing this for over 3 yrs now... focusing, training, scheduling, playing, winning, expectations, pressure... Rogi is someone to be proud of.

;)

soonha
06-16-2006, 07:11 PM
What I am more concerned about is that he seems to be very tired out there in Halle and is still giving his everything to win there. I just hope he gets enough rest for Wimbly. Maybe he knows all that and will get plenty of rest but it is hard not to be skeptical about his Wimbly preparation when he is struggling through tiredness in Halle.
Yes, we all are worried about his preparation for Wimbledon. It looks so obvious that he is exhausted at the moment. So it'd be a more reasonable choice to withdraw and get some rest.

But think more about the mental aspect. I think he is holding up now with anything but self-confidence and pride on his game. If he lost this tourny, he would lose his confidence, which would eventually affect more on Wimbledon. I believe this is why he is giving everything to win there depite of the risk of burnout.

Skyward
06-16-2006, 07:16 PM
People think it's just because of this clay season that Rogi is exhausted and spent. Don't forget that he has been doing this for over 3 yrs now... focusing, training, scheduling, playing, winning, expectations, pressure... Rogi is someone to be proud of.

;)

Rogi should read this. :yeah:

nobama
06-16-2006, 07:25 PM
Yes, we all are worried about his preparation for Wimbledon. It looks so obvious that he is exhausted at the moment. So it'd be a more reasonable choice to withdraw and get some rest.

But think more about the mental aspect. I think he is holding up now with anything but self-confidence and pride on his game. If he lost this tourny, he would lose his confidence, which would eventually affect more on Wimbledon. I believe this is why he is giving everything to win there depite of the risk of burnout.And he's someone who doesn't want to let down the fans and the tournament. I get the impression he's really well liked in Germany and probably doesn't want to disappoint the fans there. Of course that shouldn't be his primary concern. Hopefully he can up his game enough to get this title and that would do a world of good for his mental state.

soonha
06-16-2006, 07:31 PM
And he's someone who doesn't want to let down the fans and the tournament.
You're so right about that.

SUKTUEN
06-17-2006, 09:37 AM
GOD please Help Roger to have a clam heart~! :worship:

GO Roger~! :bounce: :bounce:

Federerhingis
06-17-2006, 08:58 PM
And he's someone who doesn't want to let down the fans and the tournament. I get the impression he's really well liked in Germany and probably doesn't want to disappoint the fans there. Of course that shouldn't be his primary concern. Hopefully he can up his game enough to get this title and that would do a world of good for his mental state.

He does seem very well liked in Germany and he's had so much success on german soil as a tennis player. His chilhood Idol too hailed from Germany so theres just a good chemistry between the two. Germany is also just a short flight away from Switzerland so whether he does well or not he's not far from home.

SUKTUEN
06-18-2006, 10:21 AM
the German looks very like Roger~~