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Grass season is here. Now: Halle

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 06:37 PM
Any thoughts?
This tournament starts on June 6th, and David will be playing here. I guess the draw will be out this week-end, but in the meantime, here's the entry list:
1 Federer, Roger SUI 1
2 Safin, Marat RUS 4
3 Nadal, Rafael ESP 7
4 Nalbandian, David ARG 10
5 Johansson, Joachim SWE 12
6 Canas, Guillermo ARG 13
7 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 16
8 Massu, Nicolas CHI 21
9 Haas, Tommy GER 22
10 Novak, Jiri CZE 23
11 Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 26
12 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 27
13 Kiefer, Nicolas GER 30
14 Rochus, Olivier BEL 33
15 Melzer, Jurgen AUT 35
16 Pavel, Andrei ROM 38
17 Soderling, Robin SWE 39
18 Mayer, Florian GER 48
19 Saulnier, Cyril FRA 49
20 Llodra, Michael FRA 50
OUT Costa, Albert ESP 51
22 Santoro, Fabrice FRA 52
23 Carlsen, Kenneth DEN 56

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 06:59 PM
Jime..I just thought "Oh crap" Roger is playing...never mind we have to remain hopeful. I am sure David will make a late surge this year...just to make up for everything....well I hope!!

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 07:03 PM
Well, but since they're both seeded, they won't meet till the latter rounds ;)

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 07:24 PM
Well, but since they're both seeded, they won't meet till the latter rounds ;)

Well thats true...so now we have to hope that David gets to the later rounds :rolleyes: ...no...no..no...I don't mean that...I have total confidence in our guy... as always....He is about to do something great..I just know it ;)

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 07:30 PM
:) He sounded very excited about the grass season, and it surprised me to hear that in addition to Halle he was thinking about some other tournament to play before Wimbledon. I guess he wants to have a higher raking for Wimbledon :confused: or maybe he expected to go further at RG, and now he's not as tired as he thought and can play some more tournaments...
I wonder if he'll play doubles at Wimbledon though, he had said he wanted to train for the DC...

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 07:34 PM
:) He sounded very excited about the grass season, and it surprised me to hear that in addition to Halle he was thinking about some other tournament to play before Wimbledon. I guess he wants to have a higher raking for Wimbledon :confused: or maybe he expected to go further at RG, and now he's not as tired as he thought and can play some more tournaments...
I wonder if he'll play doubles at Wimbledon though, he had said he wanted to train for the DC...


Doubles...hummm...that sounds interesting...who do you think he would play with?...Willy..I hope...they could do very well...and then we could all cheer together ;)

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 07:40 PM
The rumors that I've been hearing is that David will be playing singles and doubles. The other singlist would be Coria or Cañas, and the doubles between them too, and that the other member of the team would be Gaudio :confused: It's not confirmed at all, but all the journalists were already saying that the idea of having Gaudio in this tie is stupid and that he should call Calleri or a doubles player instead.
Personally, if David plays doubles I really hope he does it with Coria, after all they won Wimbledon Junior playing together.

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 07:49 PM
The rumors that I've been hearing is that David will be playing singles and doubles. The other singlist would be Coria or Cañas, and the doubles between them too, and that the other member of the team would be Gaudio :confused: It's not confirmed at all, but all the journalists were already saying that the idea of having Gaudio in this tie is stupid and that he should call Calleri or a doubles player instead.
Personally, if David plays doubles I really hope he does it with Coria, after all they won Wimbledon Junior playing together.

Well Coria makes sense...but I guess we have to wait and see...

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 07:51 PM
Yep. Grass is not my favourite surface at all, I don't enojoy the matches as much, but I'm kind of looking forward to it just the same :lol: Does it make any sense at all?

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 08:02 PM
Yep. Grass is not my favourite surface at all, I don't enojoy the matches as much, but I'm kind of looking forward to it just the same :lol: Does it make any sense at all?


Its makes sense...personally I like to play on it....and I adore Wimbledon..the atmosphere...the Pims...everything...but I guess this year I won't have my usual seats...but then again....I have to go on a school trip for the second half of the first week so I will miss so much :sad: but the trip is to Berlin :) ...so I guess that makes up for the disappointment....you know a trip to the Reichstag...Checkpoint Charlie etc...etc..etc...I will keep a very close eye on all of the action though and as Rosie will be there she can keep us all informed.. ;) ...yes Rose?!!!
Anyway...I am saving up a storm for my trip to BA...so any extra curricular activities are being downsized!!!...big time :)

gooner88
06-01-2005, 08:03 PM
Yep. Grass is not my favourite surface at all, I don't enojoy the matches as much, but I'm kind of looking forward to it just the same :lol: Does it make any sense at all?

Yes it does make sense.
I personally prefer hardcourts, but it does depend on the type of match on grass. For example if two big servers play against each other it can become very boring. But if there a contrast in playing styles, the matches on grass become much more enjoyable.
I'm looking more forward nalbo's grass court season by the day. He likes faster surfaces, and he'll be rested and ready.
There might be a chance that Fed or Nadal won't play Halle if they make the final or win RG.

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 08:04 PM
:lol: Good for you :yeah: Have fun at Berlin! :)

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 08:06 PM
Yes it does make sense.
I personally prefer hardcourts, but it does depend on the type of match on grass. For example if two big servers play against each other it can become very boring. But if there a contrast in playing styles, the matches on grass become much more enjoyable.
I'm looking more forward nalbo's grass court season by the day. He likes faster surfaces, and he'll be rested and ready.
There might be a chance that Fed or Nadal won't play Halle if they make the final or win RG.
Well, Federer is great on grass, so one less tournament won't affect him much, however, I'm very curious about how Nadal can do on grass! :confused: I somehow don't see him as a threat there at all, eventhough he says he wants to win Wimbledon...

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 08:09 PM
:lol: Good for you :yeah: Have fun at Berlin! :)

Hummmm....me and 3 other teachers and 90 15 year old boys...now fun is not what springs to mind....but I will beat most of them at ten pin bowling....and man I am so competitive...I can't lose... :D ...they will all hate me even more :) thats the main objective...no...seriously...they are all okay...they have been telling me how they are looking forward to going away with their 22 year old Teacher...oh god...worrying :eek:

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 08:13 PM
:lol: I can see why all the 15 year-old guys want to go away with their 22 year-old teacher :lol: Will you be going with a bodyguard? I think you need one!

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 08:15 PM
Well, Federer is great on grass, so one less tournament won't affect him much, however, I'm very curious about how Nadal can do on grass! :confused: I somehow don't see him as a threat there at all, eventhough he says he wants to win Wimbledon...

Jime...I saw Nadal at Wimbledon 2 years ago when I took my sister and he looked like a machine..he was only having a practice session :eek: . and he was 16 years old...omg..the size of his arms...they obviously breed guys with amazing arms on Majorca!!!!..after that I went to Centre Court and watched Roger beat Mardy Fish...but Mardy took a set...that was exciting :) ...I remember the mexican wave...what a great day...we left there at about 10.30....I love that place...to me...nothing is as good...not the US Open...nor the French...now I have to experience the Australian Open...just to see..

*Ljubica*
06-01-2005, 08:18 PM
Sorry to disappoint you girls - I will actually be at Wimbledon very rarely - I'll just walk in about 5 minutes before David's maches and walk out immediately after! I loathe the place so much :devil: In fact I haven't even booked any leave for it yet -I'll just sneak out early when he plays and hope no one notices!

As for playing another tournament between Halle and Wimby........well as of yesterday David was still firmly planing to play the Stoke Park exhibition which runs from the Tuesday to the Saturday of that week. He loves it there and always plays exhibitions the week before GS events. Unless someone offers him HUGE amounts of money to play Nottingham or Rosmalen I really cannot see that changing.

And as for doubles - I don't see him playing doubles at Wimby at all - and definately NOT with Coria :devil: .

gooner88
06-01-2005, 08:19 PM
It's a very tough field in Halle with many tough players. But we know that Nalbo loves the challenge of competing against and beating the best.
I'm a little bit annoyed that Nalbo didin't play Queens :( because I could have watched him live in person there. But on the other side I can totally understand why Nalbo chose Halle because it has a better field.

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 08:20 PM
:lol: I can see why all the 15 year-old guys want to go away with their 22 year-old teacher :lol: Will you be going with a bodyguard? I think you need one!

Actually we have got to the stage where they were being so horrible to me...now they are being nice...and I find all that a bit of a worry :eek: ...but I have helped them a lot...and they know that...its not so long ago that I was in their shoes...with the course work etc...and really I have broken the law and written some of theirs...but what the hell...I want them to get some good results and I won't be teaching in that school in September...so I don't think it matters....

*Ljubica*
06-01-2005, 08:39 PM
Hummmm....me and 3 other teachers and 90 15 year old boys...now fun is not what springs to mind....but I will beat most of them at ten pin bowling....and man I am so competitive...I can't lose... :D ...they will all hate me even more :) thats the main objective...no...seriously...they are all okay...they have been telling me how they are looking forward to going away with their 22 year old Teacher...oh god...worrying :eek:

Just keep them away from the Red Light District :eek: I drove down there by mistake last time I was in Berlin - loads of ladies of the night selling their wares naked but for fur coats and umbrellas - well it was raining at the time!! Your 15 year olds would love them.......... :devil:

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 08:43 PM
Just keep them away from the Red Light District :eek: I drove down there by mistake last time I was in Berlin - loads of ladies of the night selling their wares naked but for fur coats and umbrellas - well it was raining at the time!! Your 15 year olds would love them.......... :devil:

:haha: :haha: :haha: Oh God...I don't think I could hold them back...and I have been warned about that :eek: ...but we have a very strict agenda...and we will stick to that...purely historical....thats it ;)

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 08:57 PM
Sorry to disappoint you girls - I will actually be at Wimbledon very rarely - I'll just walk in about 5 minutes before David's maches and walk out immediately after! I loathe the place so much :devil: In fact I haven't even booked any leave for it yet -I'll just sneak out early when he plays and hope no one notices!

As for playing another tournament between Halle and Wimby........well as of yesterday David was still firmly planing to play the Stoke Park exhibition which runs from the Tuesday to the Saturday of that week. He loves it there and always plays exhibitions the week before GS events. Unless someone offers him HUGE amounts of money to play Nottingham or Rosmalen I really cannot see that changing.

And as for doubles - I don't see him playing doubles at Wimby at all - and definately NOT with Coria :devil: .
I knew about the exhibition, that's why I was so surprised to hear him that he was thinking about playing another tournament :confused:

frula08
06-01-2005, 08:59 PM
Sorry to disappoint you girls - I will actually be at Wimbledon very rarely - I'll just walk in about 5 minutes before David's maches and walk out immediately after! I loathe the place so much :devil: In fact I haven't even booked any leave for it yet -I'll just sneak out early when he plays and hope no one notices!

As for playing another tournament between Halle and Wimby........well as of yesterday David was still firmly planing to play the Stoke Park exhibition which runs from the Tuesday to the Saturday of that week. He loves it there and always plays exhibitions the week before GS events. Unless someone offers him HUGE amounts of money to play Nottingham or Rosmalen I really cannot see that changing.

And as for doubles - I don't see him playing doubles at Wimby at all - and definately NOT with Coria :devil: .


why are you so sure that he is not going to play doubles with coria? i would love to see both of them playing doubles together, also in DC, because i am going to australia to see that match, by the way, do you know if he is already in halle?.

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 08:59 PM
Just keep them away from the Red Light District :eek: I drove down there by mistake last time I was in Berlin - loads of ladies of the night selling their wares naked but for fur coats and umbrellas - well it was raining at the time!! Your 15 year olds would love them.......... :devil:
:haha: :haha:

jazz_girl
06-01-2005, 09:01 PM
why are you so sure that he is not going to play doubles with coria? i would love to see both of them playing doubles together, also in DC, because i am going to australia to see that match, by the way, do you know if he is already in halle?.
You're soooo lucky!!! I'd love to be in Australia by that time! :) And I'd like to see him playing with Coria as well, they'd make a good team, and that's what we need to beat Australia...

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 09:01 PM
Have fun at Stoke Park...Rosie..wish I were there...actually I may even make it ;) I'll keep you informed...

sophia_c
06-01-2005, 09:03 PM
why are you so sure that he is not going to play doubles with coria? i would love to see both of them playing doubles together, also in DC, because i am going to australia to see that match, by the way, do you know if he is already in halle?.


You lucky thing...I haven't been to Australia....but its on my list of things to do....cheer on the guys.... :)

frula08
06-01-2005, 09:16 PM
I will.

sigmagirl91
06-01-2005, 09:24 PM
Good afternoon, all. I'm finally here...more drama in hell, but I'll post that in another thread.

frula08
06-02-2005, 05:55 PM
when is the draw going to be ready?

*Ljubica*
06-02-2005, 06:39 PM
why are you so sure that he is not going to play doubles with coria? i would love to see both of them playing doubles together, also in DC, because i am going to australia to see that match, by the way, do you know if he is already in halle?.

Because I do not think David/Coria will be the doubles' team that Mancini will go for in DC, so I can't see why they would be practicing together. Coria is not a particularly experienced doubles player (he doesn't play that often), so I think Mancini will go for someone who has proved himself more recently in doubles like Willy Canas to partner David, as he did against the Czech Republic in March, and save Coria for the singles. I hope you enjoy Australia anyway.

As for Halle - he should have got there today (Thursday) :)

frula08
06-02-2005, 07:17 PM
i have read in another forum that david, coria and cañas are confirmed to be part of the team (i dont know if is true, is something that i read in another forum)and the fourth player would be puerta or etlis, so i dont know who is going to play doubles, i think that david cant be out of the doubles, but maybe mancini want him to rest to be 100% in the singles.
according to what i think david would be playing hewitt the first day (always if the singles are played by david and canas).

*Ljubica*
06-02-2005, 08:18 PM
i have read in another forum that david, coria and cañas are confirmed to be part of the team (i dont know if is true, is something that i read in another forum)and the fourth player would be puerta or etlis, so i dont know who is going to play doubles, i think that david cant be out of the doubles, but maybe mancini want him to rest to be 100% in the singles.
according to what i think david would be playing hewitt the first day (always if the singles are played by david and canas).

Yes - I have also heard the rumour about Puerta joining the Team, though I can't confirm if it is true or not. I know that Calleri was the original choice, but I guess they cannot consider him now, because even if his injuries are healed, he would not be match fit enough. I don't know about Puerta's abilities or experience on grass - I would have thought Chela might have been a better choice - but I guess Mancini knows what he is doing!! I assume David will be expected to play both singles matches AND doubles with Canas, leaving Coria as the other singles player. I would imagine the 4th player will only play in the last match if the tie has already been decided - just to give them a little DC experience.

justClaudia
06-02-2005, 09:04 PM
Good Luck David for the grass season - I am with you Jime,not my fav at all..but...

And Sophia have a wonderful time in Berlin, sweetie :hug:

bovenbuuf
06-03-2005, 07:43 AM
yeah Hall is now coming nearby. Good to hear he is already there! Hope he can do well there :)

Björki
06-03-2005, 08:30 AM
Sophia when are you coming to Berlin???

Lucas Arg
06-04-2005, 08:38 AM
I don't know but Good luck David!!! :bonce:

sophia_c
06-04-2005, 09:37 AM
Sophia when are you coming to Berlin???

June 23-27....I'm taking a bunch of kids to all the major places there....

Fedex
06-04-2005, 11:02 AM
Is the draw out yet? This should be an interesting event, provided none of the players pull out at the last second.

jazz_girl
06-04-2005, 11:04 AM
I doubt Nadal will be there...although he did say he was not gonna pull out.
Anyway, I have no idea when it'll be out, but I guess today :confused:

Kyla
06-04-2005, 12:35 PM
David's part of the draw:

NALBANDIAN, David (ARG/5) v SCHÜTTLER, Rainer (GER)
ROCHUS, Christophe (FRA) v Qualifer
KIEFER, Nicolas (GER) v Qualifer
VERDASCO, Fernando (ESP) v CANAS, Guillermo (ARG/4)

sigmagirl91
06-04-2005, 12:39 PM
Good luck, David. You can do it.

*Ljubica*
06-04-2005, 01:10 PM
Rainer Schuettler - again :eek: It's incredible the amount of times those two play each other! It won't be easy for David - the crowd will be against him and Rainer will be very motivated playing in front of his own people - and even if he beats him there is Keifer or Canas lying in wait. Not a good draw.

sigmagirl91
06-04-2005, 01:12 PM
Rainer Schuettler - again :eek: It's incredible the amount of times those two play each other! It won't be easy for David - the crowd will be against him and Rainer will be very motivated playing in front of his own people - and even if he beats him there is Keifer or Canas lying in wait. Not a good draw.

I know...what a crap draw in that respect.

gooner88
06-04-2005, 01:40 PM
It's definitely a tough draw for Nalbo.
If he plays like we all know he can, he will survive that quarter.
Vamos Nalbo. :yeah:

sigmagirl91
06-04-2005, 02:38 PM
It's definitely a tough draw for Nalbo.
If he plays like we all know he can, he will survive that quarter.
Vamos Nalbo. :yeah:

I'm sure too. He can do it, and I hope he does.

frula08
06-04-2005, 04:16 PM
Rainer Schuettler - again :eek: It's incredible the amount of times those two play each other! It won't be easy for David - the crowd will be against him and Rainer will be very motivated playing in front of his own people - and even if he beats him there is Keifer or Canas lying in wait. Not a good draw.


i dont think on the crowd bothering him a lot, he played with roddick in the arhur ashe stadium (23000 people against him) and with hewitt this year (16000 people against him), so if he lose will be because schuettler played better than him, not because of the crowd.
and i like this draw, can give him lot of confidence, and he likes hard draws.

Fedex
06-04-2005, 05:45 PM
Rainer Schuettler - again :eek: It's incredible the amount of times those two play each other! It won't be easy for David - the crowd will be against him and Rainer will be very motivated playing in front of his own people - and even if he beats him there is Keifer or Canas lying in wait. Not a good draw.
He will handle them. :)

*Ljubica*
06-04-2005, 08:03 PM
By the way - David will also be playing doubes in this tournament - with Guillermo Canas :)

sigmagirl91
06-04-2005, 08:14 PM
By the way - David will also be playing doubes in this tournament - with Guillermo Canas :)

Cool!!!

gooner88
06-04-2005, 09:18 PM
By the way - David will also be playing doubes in this tournament - with Guillermo Canas :)

Great!
Probably their only chance to get practice playing doubles on grass before the DC Match against the Aussies because Nalbo doesn't play doubles at Grand slams.
Vamos Argentina, crush those Aussies. :)

Björki
06-05-2005, 03:50 PM
best of luck to David. nice to see him playing doubles too.

sophia_c
06-05-2005, 04:05 PM
By the way - David will also be playing doubes in this tournament - with Guillermo Canas :)

I'm so pleased they are playing together...they make a good team :)

*Ljubica*
06-05-2005, 06:36 PM
Their doubles match is scheduled as the last match on Court 2 tomorrow - against Erlich/Ram from Israel. David will then play singles on the main court on Tuesday. I can't get to Halle til Wednesday at the earliest (more likely Thursday :devil: ), so they had better win!!! The weather is very bad there at the moment though I understand, so doubles might not happen tomorrow.

Tricky_Forehand
06-06-2005, 08:07 AM
At first I was only concerned about David's first round because I also like Rainer but then reading here I remember about their previous meetings...

Then I saw Kyla's posting of David's part of the draw...Don't even want to give it one more thought!!! :banghead:

Doubles w/ Willy!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

Think I about covered it all before I head to sleep...

OH...isn't there a website for the Stoke Park exhib? I thought I remembered there being one last year.

*Grass Court Hell Has Officially Arrived :p * (not enough room for this in Sig :) )

Björki
06-06-2005, 09:00 AM
June 23-27....I'm taking a bunch of kids to all the major places there....
so I don't think you have time for a meeting?
I live in Berlin, that's why I ask. :)

*Ljubica*
06-06-2005, 11:37 AM
At first I was only concerned about David's first round because I also like Rainer but then reading here I remember about their previous meetings...

Then I saw Kyla's posting of David's part of the draw...Don't even want to give it one more thought!!! :banghead:

Doubles w/ Willy!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

Think I about covered it all before I head to sleep...

OH...isn't there a website for the Stoke Park exhib? I thought I remembered there being one last year.

*Grass Court Hell Has Officially Arrived :p * (not enough room for this in Sig :) )

Try http://theboodles.com/htm/

alexito
06-06-2005, 02:15 PM
yes, now nalbandian with cañas play in halle but the scoreboard the halle web is bad and slow . the scoreboard web queen is good, point to point.

frula08
06-06-2005, 03:06 PM
nalbandian/canas have just won 6-3 6-3

Björki
06-06-2005, 03:16 PM
well done guys :clap2:

jazz_girl
06-06-2005, 03:24 PM
Those two are doubles specialist, no bad at all! :worship:

jazz_girl
06-06-2005, 03:25 PM
I just realised!!! They could play Federer/Allegro in the next round, that's it if Federer and Allegro win they're first round match.

gooner88
06-06-2005, 04:40 PM
Great Result for Nalbo and Canas :)
Hope Nalbo can beat Schuettler tomorrow :fingers crossed:

Eugenia
06-06-2005, 05:29 PM
Well done David and Willy!!! :woohoo:

Go David!!! You can rock this grass season!!! :bounce:

bovenbuuf
06-06-2005, 05:43 PM
well done, must feel like a good start there in Halle...

sophia_c
06-06-2005, 06:23 PM
Well done David and Willy!!! :woohoo:

Go David!!! You can rock this grass season!!! :bounce:


Lets hope so :)

Ti-Anne
06-06-2005, 07:10 PM
Yeah, I believe too David can be a hit on the green stuff this year ! Go David !:banana:

frula08
06-06-2005, 07:49 PM
tuesday OOP

Center
Matches Start At:11:45 AM
Vladimir VOLTCHKOV (BLR) vs Juan Carlos FERRERO (ESP)
NOT BEFORE 2:00 PM
Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs Robin SODERLING (SWE)
followed by
Philip KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) vs Joachim JOHANSSON (SWE)
followed by
Nicolas KIEFER (GER) vs Nenad ZIMONJIC (SCG)
followed by
David NALBANDIAN (ARG) vs Rainer SCHUETTLER (GER

sigmagirl91
06-06-2005, 09:11 PM
nalbandian/canas have just won 6-3 6-3

:clap2: :clap2: Yea!!!

sigmagirl91
06-06-2005, 09:12 PM
Yeah, I believe too David can be a hit on the green stuff this year ! Go David !:banana:

I believe so, too.

Tricky_Forehand
06-07-2005, 03:06 AM
Try http://theboodles.com/htm/

Danke, Rosie!! :D *Sadly that, and about 4 or 5 more words, is the extent of my German :sad: *

David & Willy :bounce: :bounce:

I may like Rainer too but of the two...VAMOS DAVID!!!!. Depending on how matches go tomorrow he could be playing when I get up in the morning. Hope the live score is halfway decent. Wish the States was getting coverage of Halle but we get Queens from Thursday on :p

bovenbuuf
06-07-2005, 05:26 AM
well hope he plays a good match today :)

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 10:46 AM
Too bad I can't follow online today. I'll settle for the results.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 11:03 AM
The scoreboard is crap! So the results are much better!
If I get to see the match on tv I'll post the scores game by game here ;)

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 11:03 AM
Thanks. I'll view them later.

alexito
06-07-2005, 11:37 AM
I can't see the web halle, very very bad. the scoreboard queen is very good. good work nalbandian and cañas. all thing in davis cup. hewitt and phillippousis play too in double in queen.

lau
06-07-2005, 11:39 AM
OH!!! I didn`t know the boys won their match (I couldn`t find an SB for the doubles matches)!!!! Well done!!! Australia, watch out!! ;)
And good luck to David today!!! Go for it! Now that Marat is injured, you are authorized to win the tournie, :lol: Sorry, I can`t help it :awww:
GOOD LUCK DAVID!!! :)

EDIT: the tournament`s site sucks :ras:

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 11:41 AM
Marat's injured? What's wrong with him? did he withdraw? :confused: I hope it's not so bad!

Betty
06-07-2005, 11:46 AM
Marat's injured? What's wrong with him? did he withdraw? :confused: I hope it's not so bad!
I saw the match yesterday when Marat was folling but I don't know he 's injured :sad: :confused:

lau
06-07-2005, 12:41 PM
He has been sufering tendonitis in his knee for some time, even before RG. Grass is a much more dificult surface to play with this kind if injury. He didn`t withdraw, but he said yesterday that if this continues or gets worst, he may have to consider withdraw from Wimbly. In his official site they said : "Don`t panic". We`ll have to wait and see what happends. :rolleyes: I`m a little worried too..... :awww:
He doesn`t want this because he know he can do it well on Wimbledon ( :rolleyes: ).... Yesterday he said it really hurt :awww: . He withdrew from ¿Rome? I think, but he lost early in singles and withdrew from doubles. I`m waiting to see if he`ll play his doubles match today. That may give me the idea of how serious is it :confused:

But this is David`s thread, so :clap2: GO DAVID!!!! :clap2:

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 03:28 PM
They changed David to court N°1 so I won't get to see it :mad:

gooner88
06-07-2005, 04:31 PM
Nalbo's made a bad start against Schuettler, he's down 4-1.
Nalbo to serve.

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 04:35 PM
Are you on the Halle score board?...

gooner88
06-07-2005, 04:38 PM
Are you on the Halle score board?...

Yes, but it's soooooo slow.
Nalbo's 5-2 down, serving to stay in the set.

gooner88
06-07-2005, 04:45 PM
Schuettler takes the first set 6-3.
Come on Nalbo, raise your game!!!!

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 04:45 PM
Yes, but it's soooooo slow.
Nalbo's 5-2 down, serving to stay in the set.

OMG...I hope he picks himself up soon..I'm watching Henman..have no idea why..but its on...and I know Robbie...so I'm pleased he is doing okay...he has had some good shots so far...but even the commentators are rooting for Tim...its 5-5 though...
but....Vamos David....

lau
06-07-2005, 04:47 PM
:crying2: 63 Schuettler in first set

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 04:49 PM
Thats not good..he can't go out yet...can he?

gooner88
06-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Nalbo's held serve in the first game of the second set.

Björki
06-07-2005, 04:56 PM
BP Nalby - come on

Björki
06-07-2005, 04:57 PM
2-0

gooner88
06-07-2005, 04:59 PM
Thats not good..he can't go out yet...can he?

Don't worry too much Sophia, after all it's Nalbo's first proper singles match on grass in 2 years. It takes a while to get adjusted to the courts for all the top players. Both Fed and Hewitt had tough 3 setters today, so what Nalbo needs is as much time on court as possible to find his game.

gooner88
06-07-2005, 05:01 PM
Nalbo consolidated the break, he's up 3-0

gooner88
06-07-2005, 05:05 PM
Schuettler held serve, 3-1 Nalbo

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 05:10 PM
Is your SB not working as well as mine? :mad:

gooner88
06-07-2005, 05:16 PM
Is your SB not working as well as mine? :mad:

Same here, it's crashed :mad:
I hope Nalbo's still ahead!

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 05:19 PM
Me too! This is terrible! :mad: :mad: :mad:

alexito
06-07-2005, 05:27 PM
davidddddd please, what happened? I don't believe

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 05:27 PM
Don't worry too much Sophia, after all it's Nalbo's first proper singles match on grass in 2 years. It takes a while to get adjusted to the courts for all the top players. Both Fed and Hewitt had tough 3 setters today, so what Nalbo needs is as much time on court as possible to find his game.

I know about grass...and right now he is 3-1 up...so hopefully he can keep it going

gooner88
06-07-2005, 05:28 PM
I've tried 2 other livescore websites and it still has the same score of Nalbo up 3-1 in the second. Perhaps something happened in the match like an injury timeout? Hopefully nothing happened to Nalbo

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 05:29 PM
I've tried 2 other livescore websites and it still has the same score of Nalbo up 3-1 in the second. Perhaps something happened in the match like an injury timeout? Hopefully nothing happened to Nalbo

same here...live score is 3-1 up....

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 05:31 PM
He lost 6-3 6-3...

bovenbuuf
06-07-2005, 05:33 PM
oh that was fast.....well sorry to see that he lossed his match. Really hoped he could make it and get some more practise before Wimbly.

gooner88
06-07-2005, 05:34 PM
Sorry to see that Nalbo lost so quickly.
Hope he gets more grass-court practice in the doubles.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 05:35 PM
It was too fast! I hope there's some kind of error...

gooner88
06-07-2005, 05:37 PM
It was too fast! I hope there's some kind of error...

So do I Jazz, but I checked another livescore site and it does confirm the 6-3 6-3 scoreline.

alexito
06-07-2005, 05:39 PM
bye david, he need help

gooner88
06-07-2005, 05:47 PM
bye david, he need help

I wouldn't go that far.
Nalbo is low on confidence, and that will only grow with more match wins.
I'm still in shock that he lost the last 5 games in a row.

Denaon
06-07-2005, 05:57 PM
Oh David :sad: I think he's having in mind more important things than tennis :hug:

*Ljubica*
06-07-2005, 06:05 PM
It was cold, it was wet, it was slippery, he was moved (once again) to an outside court, the crowd were rowdy and all supporting Rainer he had no points to defend..... maybe he just didn't want to be there enough. And - no - I wasn't there but I know someone that was and that's what I have heard. It's no big deal.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 06:17 PM
Maybe he could ask for a WC in Nottigham and win the tournament like he did in Munich :lol:
Anyway, his next important match will be in Wimbledon, I hope he can play with Willy more matches so he can practice a bit more...

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 06:33 PM
It was always going to be hard against Rainer...its not ideal....the crowd etc...its hostile at the best of times.....good luck to him with his next tournament....wherever it is

bovenbuuf
06-07-2005, 06:33 PM
It was cold, it was wet, it was slippery, he was moved (once again) to an outside court, the crowd were rowdy and all supporting Rainer he had no points to defend..... maybe he just didn't want to be there enough. And - no - I wasn't there but I know someone that was and that's what I have heard. It's no big deal.

thanks Rose for the small report.. guess its nice to know a little bit more. Sorry that your friend couldn't see a better match! And well had to sit in a cold and wet environment!

Hope the weather will be a little bit better during this tournement. Would be nice during David his double match

bovenbuuf
06-07-2005, 06:34 PM
It was always going to be hard against Rainer...its not ideal....the crowd etc...its hostile at the best of times.....good luck to him with his next tournament....wherever it is
not to fast :p.. he still has to do his double match.. well I hope...

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 06:40 PM
not to fast :p.. he still has to do his double match.. well I hope...


Well I didn't forget about his doubles with Willy...believe me.... :D

Björki
06-07-2005, 07:06 PM
it's a pity he lost :( anway good luck for the doubles.

Tricky_Forehand
06-07-2005, 07:10 PM
:sad: I'm surprised that Rainer got him in straights :sad:

Vamos to David & Willy to keep going in Doubles :yeah:

*Ljubica*
06-07-2005, 07:23 PM
Maybe he could ask for a WC in Nottigham and win the tournament like he did in Munich :lol:
Anyway, his next important match will be in Wimbledon, I hope he can play with Willy more matches so he can practice a bit more...

Awww - no - Nottingham is a vile tournament :devil: David will play Stoke Park and allow me to have the one time of year when I can just walk to a tennis tournament and not have to bother with Hotels and suitcases and stuff!!

And - yes - Sophie - you are right - people seem shocked by this result, - but Rainer was at home with the crowd behind him, he likes grass, and it isn't so long ago he that was playing in the TMC himself - so he's no pushever despite his poor results lately.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 07:32 PM
To tell you the truth, it doesn't surprise me at all that david is losing in a tournament in the first round... :sad:

gooner88
06-07-2005, 07:35 PM
I think we all have to put this Nalbo defeat into perspective.
It was his first singles match on the green stuff for 2 years, and he was playing a tough opponent with good grass-court credentials. As Rosie said, putting Nalbo onto an outside court at such short notice couldn't have helped much either.
I hope he goes deep into the doubles draw with Willy to get more match practice ahead of Wimby.
I still believe he can go deep into Wimby if he gets a good draw and avoids the big servers in the early rounds.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 07:40 PM
He always does well in GS, even if he's not going through a good time. He made it to the fourth round in RG, why not do it also in Wimby?
I'm really really mad they changed his match to another court!!!! :mad: I wanted to see him playing in grass...But I guess I'll have to wait till Wimbledon, if they show him there :mad:

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 07:41 PM
The draw is realesed earlier in Wimbledon, right? Maybe next week?

gooner88
06-07-2005, 07:45 PM
The draw is realesed earlier in Wimbledon, right? Maybe next week?

Yes, I remember last year the draw was released on Tuesday.

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 07:49 PM
The draw is realesed earlier in Wimbledon, right? Maybe next week?

Yes Jime the draw will be released early next week....hope he has a good draw...he will be at Stoke park....a very nice relaxed civilised place....(not saying Halle is not)...but its different and then on to Wimbledon....the place I love....I know Rose hates it...hahhaha...but I think nothing beats it....after been to all others except Australia....I still love Wimbledon and the players lounge...its just very English I guess and I like that...despite its rules etc....

gooner88
06-07-2005, 07:50 PM
I've just read the match report from the Halle website. I can't believe what I've just read!!!!!!!!

http://www.gerryweber-open.de/1597.php

Nalbandian outburst has Schuettler going through
07 June 2005


„I have never seen something like this before,“ a puzzled Rainer Schuettler said after his dubious win over David Nalbandian. A solid performance saw Schuettler winning the first set, and the two exchanged breaks before the crowd witnessed a memorable out-burst.
Up 3-2, Nalbandian repeatedly smashed his racket and received back-to-back game penalties that gave Schuettler a 4-3 lead. Nalbandian, who also asked for the supervisor, finished the match without any effort.

“That was a strange match,” admitted Schuettler, not at all a grass court specialist. “But after all, it was good to hear the game, set and match phrase again.” Hot-blooded Nalbandian, a former Wimbledon finalist, stormed off the court in anger paired with thunderous catcalls.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 07:52 PM
:eek:
Now I understand why it finished so quickly!!!
What the hell is wrong with him???? :eek:

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 07:52 PM
I've just read the match report from the Halle website. I can't believe what I've just read!!!!!!!!

http://www.gerryweber-open.de/1597.php

Nalbandian outburst has Schuettler going through
07 June 2005


„I have never seen something like this before,“ a puzzled Rainer Schuettler said after his dubious win over David Nalbandian. A solid performance saw Schuettler winning the first set, and the two exchanged breaks before the crowd witnessed a memorable out-burst.
Up 3-2, Nalbandian repeatedly smashed his racket and received back-to-back game penalties that gave Schuettler a 4-3 lead. Nalbandian, who also asked for the supervisor, finished the match without any effort.

“That was a strange match,” admitted Schuettler, not at all a grass court specialist. “But after all, it was good to hear the game, set and match phrase again.” Hot-blooded Nalbandian, a former Wimbledon finalist, stormed off the court in anger paired with thunderous catcalls.

Thats not good...but I guess he had his reasons....

*Ljubica*
06-07-2005, 07:53 PM
I think we all have to put this Nalbo defeat into perspective.
It was his first singles match on the green stuff for 2 years, and he was playing a tough opponent with good grass-court credentials. As Rosie said, putting Nalbo onto an outside court at such short notice couldn't have helped much either.
I hope he goes deep into the doubles draw with Willy to get more match practice ahead of Wimby.
I still believe he can go deep into Wimby if he gets a good draw and avoids the big servers in the early rounds.


I agree with you gooner88 - it is really nothing to get stressed about, - and having been at RG last week when they changed the Ancic match to a different court at short notice - believe me I KNOW how much it would have upset him :devil: As usual some fans on other Forums (not MTF) are attacking David and Team (as usual), and over-reacting to this loss so much - and it makes me mad - at least we can keep some perspective here.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 07:55 PM
I've just read the match report from the Halle website. I can't believe what I've just read!!!!!!!!

http://www.gerryweber-open.de/1597.php

Nalbandian outburst has Schuettler going through
07 June 2005


„I have never seen something like this before,“ a puzzled Rainer Schuettler said after his dubious win over David Nalbandian. A solid performance saw Schuettler winning the first set, and the two exchanged breaks before the crowd witnessed a memorable out-burst.
Up 3-2, Nalbandian repeatedly smashed his racket and received back-to-back game penalties that gave Schuettler a 4-3 lead. Nalbandian, who also asked for the supervisor, finished the match without any effort.

“That was a strange match,” admitted Schuettler, not at all a grass court specialist. “But after all, it was good to hear the game, set and match phrase again.” Hot-blooded Nalbandian, a former Wimbledon finalist, stormed off the court in anger paired with thunderous catcalls.
I'll use this article to explain what happened today in another forum...It wasn't his crappy playing, it was his mind :rolleyes:

Björki
06-07-2005, 08:00 PM
David :eek:

gooner88
06-07-2005, 08:03 PM
I doubt Nalbo will play in Halle next year after that match and being booed by the crowd.
I don't like hearing about all this racket smashing; Nalbo's rapidly becoming the next Safin!!!!
I really want to know why he got so pissed off, after all he was still 3-2 ahead in the second set at the time. :rolleyes:

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 08:09 PM
I honestly don't get it!!! Why was he so mad??? He must be going through some personal problems I guess, and his crappy results lately must have his confidence pretty low. But this behaviour is unacceptable. I hope he can change this soon, it's a shame.

sophia_c
06-07-2005, 08:22 PM
As his fans we have to stand behind him...and try to understand his behaviour...whatever the reasons are.....we might not like it...but we take the rough with the smooth...right?

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 08:24 PM
Sure, but still...

gooner88
06-07-2005, 08:27 PM
I'll always be a Nalbo fan throughout the good and bad times.
But I have to agree with Jazz, what Nalbo did was unacceptable and indefensible.

*Ljubica*
06-07-2005, 08:42 PM
I agree with gooner and Jazz. Yes I am a fan and will always be a fan - but that kind of behaviour it unacceptable - it's an insult to his opponent, to his fans, to the tournament that are paying him, to the sponsors, to the spectators - to everyone in fact. He will not win himself any new friends this way - he is far too old to behave like a 2 year old having a tantrum :devil:

Earlier today I was sad that this was the first European match of his that I had missed in over a year - now I am just happy that I wasn't there to witness it, and I quite expect some kind of ban like Xavier Malisse had recently.

Grow up David - please!

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 08:49 PM
I don't know if they'll ban him if he wasn't disquialified...I'm sure he'll be fined though...

gooner88
06-07-2005, 08:54 PM
I hope he isn't banned from the tour!
A big fine and a warning over his future conduct on a tennis court would be enough in my opinion.
I hope what happened today will change his attitude for the better. I've seen Nalbo smash rackets before like in the basel final last year, but what happened today is totally out of character.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 08:58 PM
Absolutly!
Although, do you really think he could be banned even though he was not disqualified??? I hope not, especially with Wimbledon around the corner...

*Ljubica*
06-07-2005, 08:58 PM
To be honest I don't know what they will do - I was just going on what happend to Malisse, who was banned after holding up a match for a similar amount of time. Yes, - a fine would probably be sufficient - though I can already hear our "friends" in GM having a field day with this one.

gooner88
06-07-2005, 09:03 PM
To be honest I don't know what they will do - I was just going on what happend to Malisse, who was banned after holding up a match for a similar amount of time. Yes, - a fine would probably be sufficient - though I can already hear our "friends" in GM having a field day with this one.

I think this is totaly different to the Malisse case.
Malisse was primarily banned because he was abusive to the line judges.
In my opinion the majority of Nalbo's prize money from this event should not be given to him, and he donate that fined amount to charity.

*Ljubica*
06-07-2005, 09:19 PM
I think this is totaly different to the Malisse case.
Malisse was primarily banned because he was abusive to the line judges.
In my opinion the majority of Nalbo's prize money from this event should not be given to him, and he donate that fined amount to charity.

Sounds more than fair to me!

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 09:52 PM
I just read what happened, and I must say I'm shocked and appalled at his behavior!!! What the hell got into him?

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 09:54 PM
I think this is totaly different to the Malisse case.
Malisse was primarily banned because he was abusive to the line judges.
In my opinion the majority of Nalbo's prize money from this event should not be given to him, and he donate that fined amount to charity.

He should, and next time he needs to really think before he acts. I don't know what caused the outburst, but I'm sure he'll look back at this and ponder it a little more.

frula08
06-07-2005, 10:15 PM
what about this attitude and his participation in the doubles with canas?.

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 10:17 PM
Nothing yet, frula. I guess you all will hear something soon enough tomorrow when doubles play resumes. And if they have to default the dubs because of today, I'd kick David's ass if I were Willy.

frula08
06-07-2005, 10:27 PM
i dont think that they will have to retire, if he was not disqualified, i dont see a bigger problem, if he didnt get a warning for "leaving" (mentally, i mean not trying to win) the match as the one massu get some years ago, i dont think that they have to retire.

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 10:29 PM
i dont think that they will have to retire, if he was not disqualified, i dont see a bigger problem, if he didnt get a warning for "leaving" (mentally, i mean not trying to win) the match as the one massu get some yearsago, i dont think that they have to retire.

Oh, you mean "tanking". No...not that I know of. If he's still "eligible", which I think he is, then I guess the doubles match goes on as planned.

gooner88
06-07-2005, 10:41 PM
Oh, you mean "tanking". No...not that I know of. If he's still "eligible", which I think he is, then I guess the doubles match goes on as planned.

I think the doubles with Willy will go along as planned. It wouldn't be fair on Willy if they were disqualified from the doubles because of Nalbo's actions in the singles tournament.

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 11:11 PM
I think the doubles with Willy will go along as planned. It wouldn't be fair on Willy if they were disqualified from the doubles because of Nalbo's actions in the singles tournament.

No, it wouldn't. Which is why I hope David's actions didn't DQ him from the tournament.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 11:23 PM
They should play it on thursday, I hope he's more quiet by then :rolleyes:

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 11:45 PM
:rolleyes: Hope so. If not, then I'm giving him the stuff I use to ward off PMS. :o

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 11:47 PM
:lol: If he was a woman, I would be sure that would be the problem...That or menopause....

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 11:54 PM
:lol: If he was a woman, I would be sure that would be the problem...That or menopause....

Or pre-menopause. I tell ya, he's worse than a woman. Maybe that's why I have "The Rag" thread.

jazz_girl
06-07-2005, 11:57 PM
I just read an article in La Nación about this, and it said that after breaking a couple of rackets he stayed in his chair for 10 minutes!!! After that the umpire took two games from him.
I still can't find why all of this started...Was it raining and he complained? He didn't like a line call? Because, something must have caused this!

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 11:58 PM
I just read an article in La Nación about this, and it said that after breaking a couple of rackets he stayed in his chair for 10 minutes!!! After that the umpire took two games from him.
I still can't find why all of this started...Was it raining and he complained? He didn't like a line call? Because, something must have caused this!

PMS, I tell ya. P...M...S.... :o

RogiFan88
06-08-2005, 01:39 AM
Sorry to hear about David's racquet smashes and penalties... what's w Halle this year anyway? Weird... first Rogi's behaviour [due to pressure... playing like crap, getting upset by calls or lack thereof and arguing w umpires... sheesh... commenting on Soderling's behaviour... ], now this!

Hope they both do better in their dbles matches [haven't even checked the draw to see if they play each other].

RogiFan88
06-08-2005, 01:40 AM
PMS? it must be going around! ;)

sigmagirl91
06-08-2005, 01:46 AM
PMS? it must be going around! ;)

It must be. What's up with men getting PMS?

jazz_girl
06-08-2005, 01:47 AM
If Roger wins his doubles match tomorrow the he will meet David on thursday.
So was Roger mad as well? Wow, what a day!!!

sigmagirl91
06-08-2005, 01:57 AM
If Roger wins his doubles match tomorrow the he will meet David on thursday.
So was Roger mad as well? Wow, what a day!!!

They both had PMS today. Maybe I should give them some chocolate, tea, and a heating pad, and let them get some rest.

RogiFan88
06-08-2005, 02:07 AM
Now I just read that Juanqui was given a foot-fault call and he "discussed" that w the linesman saying sth like "first time for me"!

So just a PMS day all round!!! ;)

Call it "Men's Liberation"...

Rogi? He seemed very Marat-like out there today... he better shape up by R2 or he's out...

sigmagirl91
06-08-2005, 02:10 AM
Now I just read that Juanqui was given a foot-fault call and he "discussed" that w the linesman saying sth like "first time for me"!

So just a PMS day all round!!! ;)

Call it "Men's Liberation"...

Rogi? He seemed very Marat-like out there today... he better shape up by R2 or he's out...

Men's lib, huh? I wonder when they will start having babies?

*Ljubica*
06-08-2005, 07:34 AM
Here is a link to an article in La Nacion this morning - doesn't tell us any more than we already know:-

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/Nota.asp?nota_id=711025

sigmagirl91
06-08-2005, 10:43 AM
Alright, thanks Rosie.

jazz_girl
06-08-2005, 02:54 PM
Next round: Cañas/Nalbandian vs Allegro/Federer. I guess they'll play tomorrow :)

novanora
06-08-2005, 03:39 PM
Next round: Cañas/Nalbandian vs Allegro/Federer. I guess they'll play tomorrow :)
i am looking forward it ;) i like both pairs. Yves & Roger :hug: :D i remember since last year Swiss DC match, they never play doubles together until Halle this year. As both David and Roger are not at their good status, just hope they can enjoy their grass doubles match, it will be funny though. For willy and David, it will be a good pratice chance for the DC doubles.

RogiFan88
06-08-2005, 08:48 PM
s be an interesting dbles battle!

jazz_girl
06-08-2005, 10:18 PM
Well, the organizers decided that they should play on friday and not tomorrow...

sigmagirl91
06-08-2005, 11:56 PM
Oh...ok....I guess we'll have a dubs match Friday.

RogiFan88
06-09-2005, 01:09 AM
why is that I wonder...

sigmagirl91
06-09-2005, 01:42 AM
I have no idea.

*Ljubica*
06-09-2005, 05:12 AM
why is that I wonder...

Because Roger and Willy both have singles matches tomorrow - so it depends on how long they take, how tired they are, and what the light is like by evening - nothing more sinister than that!

bovenbuuf
06-09-2005, 07:50 AM
thanks Rosie.. well then we just have to wait another day.

Ti-Anne
06-09-2005, 09:10 AM
I've just read on the tounament site that Federer / Allegro are qualified for next round (w.o) , :confused: does that mean David has been prevented from playing doubles due to his misbehaviour in singles... :eek: or have Willy and David chosen to withdraw ???
If anyone knows, please tell us :sad:

sigmagirl91
06-09-2005, 10:30 AM
I've just read on the tounament site that Federer / Allegro are qualified for next round (w.o) , :confused: does that mean David has been prevented from playing doubles due to his misbehaviour in singles... :eek: or have Willy and David chosen to withdraw ???
If anyone knows, please tell us :sad:

That's something new!!! I don't know.

jazz_girl
06-09-2005, 12:16 PM
:eek: I don't know what happened, but I hope it's not because he's still mad :rolleyes:

Soda
06-09-2005, 12:45 PM
i really never thought he had any issues..but now i'm starting to think there is something wrong with his head...he seems like fed up of tennis, anyway i am just thinking about the dc..and i'm worried..

*Ljubica*
06-09-2005, 12:52 PM
Would you want to hang around in a place where you felt so unhappy and hadn't been treated fairly (in his opinion)?, Willy is still in the singles and probably won't want to tire himself out by playing doubles as well - so why not wipe the slate clean and move onto somewhere that you feel happier and start again?

frula08
06-09-2005, 01:22 PM
i agree, if he is not happy there, he doesnt have to stay there. I think that he must have talked about that with cañas, if he did and canas understood david is OK that he is not playing there, but if willy wanted to play i am sure that david would have played.

gooner88
06-09-2005, 01:36 PM
Sad to hear about the nalbo/willy withdrawal from the doubles. It's not much of a surprise after what happened on Tuesday.

Does anyone know why or what caused Nalbo to flip like that????

RogiFan88
06-09-2005, 03:11 PM
that's too bad... [actually not good for Rogi either as he needs matchplay before Wimby]

I tell ya, strange things happening in Halle this year...

alexito
06-09-2005, 04:53 PM
always is bored, always play federer only.

jazz_girl
06-09-2005, 05:32 PM
I hope you guys are right, and that both of them agreed on this...But it's still weird.
According to La Nación, David got mad about a line call, and then got madder when the supervisor didn't appear and he stayed there for 10 minutes without playing and he was taken a few games off.

*Ljubica*
06-09-2005, 05:56 PM
Sad to hear about the nalbo/willy withdrawal from the doubles. It's not much of a surprise after what happened on Tuesday.

Does anyone know why or what caused Nalbo to flip like that????

Like Jazz said - he got mad about a line call that gave Rainer the game that took him to 2-3 in the second set. More importantly though, he was stressed about the weather - it was raining a little (more drizzle I believe), and David wanted to stop the match because he thought it was getting slippery and dangerous, but the Umpire didn't think it was bad enough. I guess it probably wasn't because none of the other courts stopped play. I believe he was also pissed off with the crowd's support of Rainer (pretty stupid considering he is their "local hero"), and thought he was "using" the crowd to his advantage a bit. So all in all, - it just got on top of him and he flipped.

sophia_c
06-09-2005, 06:38 PM
That happens with a lot of players...I guess its just that this came on the back of other early round losses...maybe thats why some people are also "flipping out"....hopefully he will be nice and calm for Wimbledon....he should be after spending time at Stoke Park.

khyber
06-09-2005, 06:54 PM
I believe he was also pissed off with the crowd's support of Rainer (pretty stupid considering he is their "local hero"), and thought he was "using" the crowd to his advantage a bit.How can he be effective in Davis Cup if he can't handle partisan support? :confused:

Björki
06-09-2005, 07:02 PM
I believe he was pissed off because Rosie wasn't there :lol:

*Ljubica*
06-09-2005, 07:14 PM
I believe he was pissed off because Rosie wasn't there :lol:


I didn't like to say that Peggy - but it was the first match of his in Europe I have missed for a year or so!!!! ;)

gooner88
06-09-2005, 07:17 PM
Thanks for the explanations Rosie & Jazz.
I'm probably the one in this forum who thinks this, but Nalbo should play Queens next year. That way he wouldn't have to travel and get used the English atmosphere and grass courts here. It would also mean I could get more of a chance to watch him live!

sophia_c
06-09-2005, 07:40 PM
Well I don't understand why he doesn't play Queens anyway...it makes more sense...he gets used to the surface, weather and he is settled for 2 weeks before Wimbledon even starts....the fact that we would see him has nothing to do with it... ;)

*Ljubica*
06-09-2005, 08:23 PM
I actually think you'll get your wish next year gooner - even though it pains me to say it because I hate Queens even more than Wimbledon :devil: I certainly don't think he can return to Halle after this week, and as he needs at least one grass tournament before Wimbledon and he never plays the week just before a Grand Slam, that doesn't leave any other options. It will probably take me a year to pluck up courage to go to the ghastly place :devil:

I personally think that this year he should play the European clay tourneys like Kitzbuehel and Stuttgart................it will give him matcn practice, most of the other Argentine players that he knows and gets on with will be playing there, he has no points to defend - and - like you - it means I can get to see him more!!!! It's not going to happen though :sad:

Btw - according to nitsansh on the Halle tournament thread, the reason for David's withdrawal from the doubles is listed as "personal - guess it's better than "I hate this f****** tournament!" :rolleyes:

Tricky_Forehand
06-09-2005, 09:03 PM
Btw - according to nitsansh on the Halle tournament thread, the reason for David's withdrawal from the doubles is listed as "personal - guess it's better than "I hate this f****** tournament!" :rolleyes:

After reading everything that you guys had to say about his first round...I would agree. I guess he wanted to leave Halle ASAP.

sigmagirl91
06-09-2005, 09:17 PM
Btw - according to nitsansh on the Halle tournament thread, the reason for David's withdrawal from the doubles is listed as "personal - guess it's better than "I hate this f****** tournament!" :rolleyes:

"Personal" covers a whole gamut of things. Can you hear the rumor mill churning again?

jazz_girl
06-09-2005, 09:43 PM
I guess he said "I won't come back to this f*cking tournament" and the Halle organizers decided to translate it as a "personal" situation :lol:

sigmagirl91
06-09-2005, 09:53 PM
I guess he said "I won't come back to this f*cking tournament" and the Halle organizers decided to translate it as a "personal" situation :lol:

That's a possibility, and it's so nice of him not to say it to their faces.

frula08
06-10-2005, 03:05 PM
I actually think you'll get your wish next year gooner - even though it pains me to say it because I hate Queens even more than Wimbledon :devil: I certainly don't think he can return to Halle after this week, and as he needs at least one grass tournament before Wimbledon and he never plays the week just before a Grand Slam, that doesn't leave any other options. It will probably take me a year to pluck up courage to go to the ghastly place :devil:

I personally think that this year he should play the European clay tourneys like Kitzbuehel and Stuttgart................it will give him matcn practice, most of the other Argentine players that he knows and gets on with will be playing there, he has no points to defend - and - like you - it means I can get to see him more!!!! It's not going to happen though :sad:

Btw - according to nitsansh on the Halle tournament thread, the reason for David's withdrawal from the doubles is listed as "personal - guess it's better than "I hate this f****** tournament!" :rolleyes:


the only problem about playing in stuttgart is that begins right after DC finish, and i dont see him playing on kitzbuhel, i think that is most probably watch him playing on the United states hard court season that watch him playing on kitzbuhel.

*Ljubica*
06-10-2005, 03:14 PM
the only problem about playing in stuttgart is that begins right after DC finish, and i dont see him playing on kitzbuhel, i think that is most probably watch him playing on the United states hard court season that watch him playing on kitzbuhel.

I agree, which is why I said I knew that it wasn't going to happen :sad: I just think he plays better on clay than he gives himself credit for (remember his results last year plus his winning at Munich this year?), and it could give him some confidence in a more relaxed environment than some of the US tourneys. And yes I KNOW I am being selfish and contradictory, because when it comes to February I'll want him to play on the hard courts of Rotterdam instead of the South Amercian clay courts!!! At least I admit it though!

frula08
06-10-2005, 03:20 PM
maybe he has more confidence on clay, but i think that he wants to take revenge in the masters series and us open, becuase of what he couldnt do last year, and the best way to do that is playing in the US OPEN series tournaments.

*Ljubica*
06-10-2005, 03:27 PM
maybe he has more confidence on clay, but i think that he wants to take revenge in the masters series and us open, becuase of what he couldnt do last year, and the best way to do that is playing in the US OPEN series tournaments.

Yes - you're probably right, - though I know David isn't too happy or comfortable in the States (no offence to any American people here - he just prefers Europe as a place to spend time if he can't be at home) - but when you're working you have to do what is best for your career - so I'm sure he'll be in the US in July and not Kitzbuehel.

frula08
06-10-2005, 03:38 PM
I remember in 2003 after he got injured in wimbledon he returned in sopot, and then he went to play the masters series and reach final and QF, and then semifinals in US open, so i dont know what he is going to do this year, i think that it will also depends if argentina passes australia and plays next davis cup mathc on hard court.
but we will have to wait a lot for that, so lets waut, and see how he playin in wimbledon and DC.

*Ljubica*
06-10-2005, 03:43 PM
Yes - I remember that - and I have relatives in Gdansk (very close to Sopot), so that would be great for me - I really love the Sopot tournament :) - but as you say - let's wait.

Tricky_Forehand
06-11-2005, 07:45 PM
Yes - you're probably right, - though I know David isn't too happy or comfortable in the States (no offence to any American people here - he just prefers Europe as a place to spend time if he can't be at home) - but when you're working you have to do what is best for your career - so I'm sure he'll be in the US in July and not Kitzbuehel.

No offense taken here :)

A part of me does hope that David will play LA this year (although I am really beginning to dislike this tournament) only because I would like to see him play in person. Or play at all for that matter...with the lack of TV coverage that he's been getting.