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*******FRENCH OPEN -R GARROS 2005(Good luck champion)********

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fightclubber
05-16-2005, 04:36 AM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: Ok Cos you asked, this is the good luck thread of R Garros. RogiFan started the thread a long ago but some of you asked and here we go. So do not leave Rogi Fan thread, ok? I just started this to see if we give Roger pur energy, I cannot promise this will work cos its not the same. BUT Im giving Roger all the energy here. He is in good shape and he is our CHAMPION , right.
I added the starts as Rone wanted ( they have a meaning... now have 6 at the beginning.. and 7 at the end.. guess why???? For the 7ths victory of the year and the fisrt slam of 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO ROGER GO:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
French open site:
http://www.rolandgarros.com

and english version:
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/index.html

ytben
05-16-2005, 05:19 AM
Silvy, thanks for the thread. Let's hope your thread will bring him luck again :bigclap:

Daniel
05-16-2005, 05:47 AM
Thanks Silvy :)

Good luck Roger, win your 1st RG Title , but first i pray for you to get an easy draw, adn to keep Nadal, Coria and Ferrero in other side of the draw :D :D

:bounce: :worship: :bigclap:

Mrs. B
05-16-2005, 07:42 AM
it's those asterisks that are his talisman! ;)

ALLEZ, Roja! :bounce:

Daniel
05-16-2005, 07:44 AM
Eva , i thought we (his fans) were his talisman??? :)

Stevens Point
05-16-2005, 09:04 AM
Good luck, Roger in Paris!!! You are just great!! We are all behind you!!!!

PaulieM
05-16-2005, 02:20 PM
GOOD LUCK ROGER, YOU'RE A CHAMP!! :bounce:

fightclubber
05-16-2005, 02:27 PM
YES YES, we are Rogi´s energy, talisman, etc. The asterisks ( stars) are just a wish...
Hope theyllbring him good luck. Lets go for the 7th trophy and first SLAM of the year.
VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ROJA:worship:

yanchr
05-16-2005, 02:34 PM
Thanks silvy :hug: Roger needs your thread for his RG run :banana: Yes, hope we can bring all the luck to him. He needs it in RG.

I'm not looking too ahead, just pls give him an easy draw on Friday first :bounce::bounce:

RogiFan88
05-16-2005, 02:47 PM
silvy, I can delete my thread -- we don't need two

SUKTUEN
05-16-2005, 05:03 PM
May Be Roger can Win G and Wimby in a year~!!!

Stevens Point
05-16-2005, 11:07 PM
Also good luck to all the Swiss in qualfiers!!
Stanislas Wawrinka, Ivo Heuberger, Geroge Bastl, Marco Chiudinelli!! :D :D

Mmmm, Bastle and Chiudi are in the same section... :(

lunahielo
05-17-2005, 02:27 AM
Allez, Rogi!
Take no prisoners! :)

RogiFan88
05-17-2005, 02:29 AM
Federer smooths way to Paris
By Barry Wood in Hamburg
(Filed: 16/05/2005)

Roger Federer warmed up for the French Open by stretching his record in ATP finals to 19 successive victories when he beat Richard Gasquet to win the Hamburg Masters.

Federer's surprise defeat by Gasquet in April led to him taking three weeks off. But he returned in style here, beating Gasquet 6-3, 7-5, 7-6 yesterday.

Gasquet, 18, who had to qualify for the tournament, was clearly tired after seven matches in nine days and he failed to show the form that took him to victory over Federer in the Monte Carlo quarter-finals.

Federer caught Gasquet cold and broke him in the second game with an overhead shot that clipped the net cord but fell in his favour.

Federer then struggled to maintain his advantage, fighting off three break points at 4-2 and then two more early in the second set.

Gasquet played just one poor service game, but crucially it came at 5-5 in the second set when he was broken to love, and Federer claimed the set by winning 12 of the last 13 points.

After no break points in the third set, Federer took the tie-break 7-4.

"To come through the week without losing a set is very nice, and it gives me great belief that I can also do better at the French Open," said Federer, who has gone no further in that tournament than the third round in the last three years.

"I have a good feeling, but feelings don't matter much once it starts. It's the real deal over five sets for two weeks. I cannot think about aiming for the title. The last few years have been too disappointing for me, and I really have to focus on the early rounds."

Despite his defeat, Gasquet will approach the French Open, which starts next Monday, in good spirits. "I have a lot of confidence now for Roland Garros, because I played some great matches here and today was a good experience for me," he said. "I was nervous at the beginning of the match but then it was OK. But I didn't return good in all the match. That was the key, I think."

Amelie Mauresmo retained her Italian Open title yesterday, beating Patty Schnyder 2-6, 6-3, 6-4, and, she hopes, putting herself in prime position for a decent run at the French Open.

Mauresmo arrived in Rome unsure of her form and fitness. A strained abdominal muscle had limited her clay-court season and a lack of direction had scuppered her results.

But back at her favourite city and her favourite event, she gradually began to find her rhythm.

From a miserably poor start against Schnyder, she began to apply the pressure in the second set. A furious argument with Romano Grillotti, the umpire, over a missed line call seemed to clear her head and from that moment on, Mauresmo was able to take control.

"I just took it as a relaxed tournament," she said. "And then finally, I'm here with the trophy on the last day. Maybe I should do that at every tournament I go to, especially the grand slams and the French Open."

The French Open, though, is where Mauresmo struggles most. Overwhelmed by the pressure of performing well in front of her home crowd, she has never got beyond the quarter-finals.

Winning two Italian titles from five finals over the last six years proves she can beat anyone on clay - now she just has to learn how not to beat herself when she gets to Roland Garros.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;sessionid=CA5JYUTDS4QFTQFIQMFCM54AVCBQY JVC?xml=/sport/2005/05/16/stfede16.xml&sSheet=/sport/2005/05/17/ixtenn.html


Federer determined to make amends
World number one Roger Federer has set his sights on winning the season's three remaining Grand Slam events.
The Swiss player, who has won six titles already this year, lost in the semi-finals of the season's first major, the Australian Open, in January.

But Federer said he intended to make amends for that defeat to Marat Safin.

"Wimbledon and Roland Garros are important goals but it would be great to win the final three Slams of the season," said the 23-year-old.

The first of those challenges will come at the French Open, which begins next Monday.

Federer has struggled at Roland Garros in previous years but will be top seed and has just won the Hamburg Masters.

I'm just very sentimental about Wimbledon more than any of the other tournaments
Roger Federer

"If I win in Paris it means I have won every Slam, which is something only a few players can claim," he said.

After the French Open comes Wimbledon, and Federer admitted the London event was his favourite.

"I guess Wimbledon will always remain number one in my heart," said the Swiss star, who picked up his second title at SW19 last summer.

"It was where I won my first Grand Slam, and all my heroes have played there.

"I've cried there more than any other tournament. I'm just very sentimental about that tournament more than any of the others."

Federer, who has won 41 of his last 43 matches, is to be honoured at the World Laureus Sports Awards, which take place in Portugal on Monday.

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/tennis/4553133.stm
Published: 2005/05/16 17:24:10 GMT
© BBC MMV

TenHound
05-17-2005, 05:03 AM
I'm surprised Roger would publicly say something as gauche as wanting to make amends by winning the next 3. It also puts a target on his back, I think. Roger darling, go take care of your feet, rest up, talk to Tony & enjoy Mirka - but just shhhhhh...thank you!

WyveN
05-17-2005, 08:03 AM
It also puts a target on his back, I think.

Got a feeling the target is already there ;)

Nice to see his targeting all 3, but start with 1 and work from there.

babsi
05-17-2005, 09:48 AM
Thank you,Silvy for starting the thread,you are Roger´s lucky charm :)

Hope for the best - prepare for the worst.

Without being ambious you will go nowhere,just avoid being over confident :)



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Theere´s nothing wrong with being a loser - it just depands how good you are at it
(Billie Joe Armstrong)

Puschkin
05-17-2005, 11:10 AM
I'm surprised Roger would publicly say something as gauche as wanting to make amends by winning the next 3.

He did not say he "wants" to win them, but "it would be great to win them".
But for me, it would not have mattered if he had said it: ambition, clear goals and determination is needed for a player of his calibre.

Nocko
05-17-2005, 12:24 PM
Thanks Silvy!! Finally you started your very lucky threadfor Rogi!! :hug:


silvy, I can delete my thread -- we don't need two
Oh, RogiFan, I'm also glad that you started RG thread and started cheering him very very early. :hug: You don't have to delete your thread at all!!! Just we need a huge luck from Silvy's thread with asterisk!! ;) :worship: :worship:

RogiFan88
05-17-2005, 01:50 PM
Rogi gauche? never!

Nocko
05-17-2005, 02:07 PM
Rogi gauche? never!
Uh?? Who did say that???

SUKTUEN
05-17-2005, 04:15 PM
I think Roger very want to Win RG~~
Just only win once is good~~ So Roger find Ron to be his coach~~

yanchr
05-17-2005, 04:24 PM
So Roger find Ron to be his coach~~
I believe it's a slip of pen from you, but Ron ? :eek: :bolt:

Had Ron been his coach, Roger would've been tortured by 'clay sucks pfff clay sucks' Ron and forced to withdraw from RG :lol: :haha:

SUKTUEN :hug: Seriously ya, I believe Roger got Tony Roche mostly for RG...

SUKTUEN
05-17-2005, 04:27 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Am I do something wrong ? :sad: :bigcry:

yanchr
05-17-2005, 04:33 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Am I do something wrong ? :sad: :bigcry:
:hug::wavey: Nothing big, you just got his coach's name wrong, which reminded me of sth otherwise funny ;) :hug:

SUKTUEN
05-17-2005, 04:35 PM
Are there someone call "Ron " ?

Nocko
05-17-2005, 04:36 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Am I do something wrong ? :sad: :bigcry:
SUK!! :smooch:
You wrote;
So Roger find Ron to be his coach~~
( of course you mean Tony don't you?? ;) )

Ron...! Ron E???? :lol: mmm, Ron is a good analyst...pfff

:hug: :hug:

SUKTUEN
05-17-2005, 04:37 PM
Nocko HOW CUTE YOUR AVARAT ARE!!!!!

yanchr
05-17-2005, 04:37 PM
Ya, sure ;)

SUKTUEN
05-17-2005, 04:38 PM
Nocko ?

Nocko
05-17-2005, 04:40 PM
Thanks!! :worship: I hope it Will give Rogi a bit good luck.--- Flying Ninja beside the tower... looks good for RG.. :devil:

yanchr
05-17-2005, 04:43 PM
But for me, it would not have mattered if he had said it: ambition, clear goals and determination is needed for a player of his calibre.
Right on there. But he'd better not be made to eat his words...:p

Ya, it would be great...Roger ;)

SUKTUEN
05-17-2005, 04:45 PM
Ninja GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Nocko
05-17-2005, 04:50 PM
It's first time Rogi officially said that he really want to win RG, isn't it? I like it. Finally Rogi said!! I was waiting this word from Rogi because He need some guts to win RG and this word show his guts!!! :woohoo: Hopp Rogi!!! :bounce:

SUKTUEN
05-17-2005, 04:52 PM
Roger has a strong power to win RG now

marchen
05-17-2005, 06:48 PM
Roger arrived Paris and has started training in Philippe-Chatrier court. What a busy schedule he has...

GOOD LUCK ROGER!!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :banana: :banana: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

RonE
05-17-2005, 10:10 PM
Silvy you're the greatest! :hug:

Come on Roger, please win this damn thing already :fiery:

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!! :bounce:

RonE
05-17-2005, 10:16 PM
I believe it's a slip of pen from you, but Ron ? :eek: :bolt:

Had Ron been his coach, Roger would've been tortured by 'clay sucks pfff clay sucks' Ron and forced to withdraw from RG :lol: :haha:

SUKTUEN :hug: Seriously ya, I believe Roger got Tony Roche mostly for RG...

Yes, and he would have been so sick of me he would have done everything in his power to win the bloody thing just to get me to shut up, which as you know is not an easy thing to do :p ;)

Raquel
05-17-2005, 10:25 PM
Good Luck Roger! :bounce:

lunahielo
05-17-2005, 11:10 PM
Cute pic, marchen.
Hope you are still having fun, Ron!

RogiFan88
05-18-2005, 01:57 AM
Rogi downplayed RG at the beginning of the year and said he wanted to defend Wimby and remain No 1... now he's changing his goals... well, might as well go for RG -- if he wins it, the rest is gravy... nothing w give me more pleasure than to see Rogi win RG... if only to see him speak French at the ceremony...

ALLEZ, MON BRAVE!!!!!

RogiFan88
05-18-2005, 01:59 AM
yes, i agree w suktuen about nocko's avatar... what does it say in Japanese [nihongo]?

lsy
05-18-2005, 05:30 AM
Roger arrived Paris and has started training in Philippe-Chatrier court. What a busy schedule he has...

GOOD LUCK ROGER!!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :banana: :banana: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

Surprised to see that he's already there and started training :yeah:

He mentioned about the court last year, and this year he'd make sure he's there early to practice on it and determined to have a better results there. Whether he can or not, we'll see but it's clear how much he wants it and he will train hard for it. Good on you Rogi! Now just try your best, keep cool and take it step by step :bounce:

lsy
05-18-2005, 05:36 AM
Had Ron been his coach, Roger would've been tortured by 'clay sucks pfff clay sucks' Ron and forced to withdraw from RG :lol: :haha:


:haha: yeah and he will put a wig on Rogi just so that he can play with a pony tail on court :haha:

Puschkin
05-18-2005, 06:14 AM
nothing w give me more pleasure than to see Rogi win RG... if only to see him speak French at the ceremony...


It is not the only reason, but I can imagine the wave of sympathy ANY player would get addressing the crowd in decent French! ( I am not French myself :p ).

The main reason is, that I will be there for the final :worship:

gertie
05-18-2005, 06:35 AM
:worship: GOOD LUCK ROGER YOUR OUR NUMBER 1 :worship:

Nocko
05-18-2005, 06:44 AM
yes, i agree w suktuen about nocko's avatar... what does it say in Japanese [nihongo]?
Thanks!
that is his name 'Hattori- kun' (his name is Kanzo Hattori)but I trimed the pic, so 'kun' was gone! :p

Yasmine
05-18-2005, 11:02 AM
I should open my eyes a bit more lately :smash: ;) :p I opened another thread while this thread is already open for a while :rolleyes:

fightclubber
05-18-2005, 11:06 AM
Silvy you're the greatest! :hug:

Come on Roger, please win this damn thing already :fiery:

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!! :bounce:
Hi RonE, Glad to see you here! This year will be soooooooooo much better,
Love to all!
Silvy:worship: :worship:

Doris Loeffel
05-18-2005, 11:26 AM
Well just good luck Roger!!
Viu Glück, bonne chance!!

fightclubber
05-18-2005, 12:30 PM
Well just good luck Roger!!
Viu Glück, bonne chance!!Im sooooooo confident. This will be a great year!

ste
05-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Like our Roger said after the Laureus Award - if he will have a year like the last one he should now win the GS who are coming.... FO and Wimby is difficult because of the Energy but if someone could do it then surely our dear Roger - so: GO FOR IT!!!!! :banana::banana::banana:

RogiFan88
05-18-2005, 02:15 PM
It is not the only reason, but I can imagine the wave of sympathy ANY player would get addressing the crowd in decent French! ( I am not French myself :p ).

The main reason is, that I will be there for the final :worship:

Yes, Puschkin, any player who tries to speak French is appreciated, such as Alex Corretja [I remember when he lost to Moya, Carlos said in his speech that his French is so bad and the crowd booed him!!], Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario...

In fact, Rogi still needs to win MCarlo, Montreal and Paris-Bercy also... :p

Doris Loeffel
05-18-2005, 02:15 PM
Yes go for it Roger!!
you can do it!!

SUKTUEN
05-18-2005, 02:49 PM
Thanks for Roger 's sexy feet photo~!!

TenHound
05-18-2005, 07:17 PM
Paris news - Hewitt has not officially withdrawn. Surprising as I've already it's not certain that he can play Wimby. Pray!!

If anyone else is interested in how the seeds are placed on the ladder, the details are conveyed most succinctly in the rulebook. Go to itftennis.com/mens. Go to circuit info menu - 4th choice is Rules & Regs. Just takes a moment to download the pdf file. I think it's page 30 - it's 2f.

In short, only #1 & #2 are fixed. After that it's drawn but for specified rungs. So they draw for slots for #3 & #4. Then they draw in groups of 4, thru the 16th seed. For seeds #17-32, they draw from groups of 8 each.

So much this time hinges on the draw w/arguably 3 of the top 4 so under-seeded. (Gasquet didn't make it to #32 til Mon. so he may not even be seeded!! Yikes!!

Whistleway
05-18-2005, 08:57 PM
Roger Federer, has been fine-tuning his serve-volley combination on the Philippe-Chatrier court

Woohoo.. Looks like his request has been granted..

from http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2005-05-18/200505181116415488793.html

Stevens Point
05-18-2005, 09:08 PM
Thanks for the news, Whistleway! :D
Oh, I always wanted to tell you that Roger in your avatar makes me laugh!! He looks so funny in this shot, while wearing a shirt!! :lol:

Stevens Point
05-18-2005, 09:09 PM
Does anyone know the latest condition of Nadal?? How is his hand now??

TenHound
05-19-2005, 07:26 AM
This just in from tomorrow's Independent(.co.uk)!! I'm putting it here 'cuz it's not about Roger per se. Hope that's okay w/everyone.

Wearing red gives lovers and athletes winning edge


By Steve Connor, Science Editor


19 May 2005

All things being equal, Arsenal should be the winner of this year's FA Cup Final against Manchester United if scientists are right about the colour red.


A study has found that wearing red gives male athletes an edge against equal opponents, and Arsenal has won the right to wear the red strip at the Millennium Stadium this Saturday. Liverpool will also wear red against a white-clad AC Milan in next week's Champions' League final.


Red is the colour of sexual dominance in many animals and testosterone-fuelled human athletes are no exception, according to evolutionary anthropologists Russell Hill and Robert Barton of Durham University.


In a study at the 2004 Olympics they found wearing red gave male athletes an advantage against opponents of similar ability who wore blue.


Dr Hill said: "There is a deep-seated or innate response to attribute bright red coloration to dominance."

Stevens Point
05-19-2005, 08:48 AM
Is this "red" thing reall!!? :eek: A similar article was posted yesterday in Laureus thread.

Thanks for the article. :)

SUKTUEN
05-19-2005, 09:57 AM
Thanks for the link~~ :D

Nocko
05-19-2005, 12:29 PM
I love Rogi wears red shirts!!!!! :woohoo:


:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Go Roger Go!!
:bigclap: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bigclap:

mitalidas
05-19-2005, 01:28 PM
Federer in France - the champions' verdict
By Piers Newbery

Roger Federer will try to complete the set of Grand Slam titles at this year's French Open.

BBC Sport asked former champions Thomas Muster (1995) and Sergi Bruguera (1993, 1994) how they think the world number one will fare at Roland Garros.

Thomas Muster: There was always the question about why Ivan Lendl couldn't win Wimbledon, why couldn't Pete Sampras win in Paris?
Here we are again talking about Roger Federer - one of the outstanding number ones in the last however many years.

And the French will definitely be the toughest for him because of the way he plays.

Does he have a better chance than Pete Sampras had?

Sergi Bruguera: He is like Pete but better suited to clay. He has better shots, he moves better on clay than Pete and he believes in himself more.

So far he hasn't found the right way to play on clay, and to play five sets all the time when you are used to winning easily on the other courts, it's tough. That's what happened to Sampras.

He was winning easily without suffering, and then on clay you can't. You have to suffer. It's difficult to change your mentality to adapt.

TM: He's similar to Pete, but I think Roger has better endurance than Pete ever had.

How would you have played him on clay?

SB: On clay I would go to the court sure that I was going to win, but on the other surfaces I would go to the court sure that I was going to lose. I would just play my game.

On clay, I used to think I was going to win for sure. Roger is only going to have trouble with the guys that play well on clay.
Against the ones that are not so good on clay he will win easily. He may have trouble against Ferrero, Moya, Nadal, Coria, Nalbandian because they play so much on clay with a lot of top-spin.

TM: Well, you're not going to play a serve and volley against him or look for short points.

You're trying to get the ball in the air, make him play as many balls as possible, play angled balls, try to tire him out.

That's tough against one player, but over the two-week period you will probably have that kind of game against you three or four times.

If it's raining and there are heavy conditions, and the balls are not flying that much, then it's going to be difficult because he'll have to hit an awful lot of balls which keep coming back.

At some stage he's going to overhit balls and that's when the unforced errors come into play.

So, can Federer win this year's French Open?

SB: Of course he can win, he's on another level to everyone. To only lose two matches since last August is, for me, unbelievable.

It's a question of how many mistakes and unforced errors he makes
Muster on Federer

Everything you do has to be 10 times better than the other players to do that - your mentality, your game, and everything has to be much better to achieve this.
If he is so much better than everyone else, I think for sure he can win the French Open, but whether he will do it is a very different thing!

TM: Roger can win it, but he's not my pick for the French Open for a few reasons. But he can win if everything comes together and if the weather suits him.

The Argentine and Spanish players will make him run a lot and it's just a question of how many mistakes and unforced errors he makes.

He's capable - a player of his quality with the strokes and serves he has - but it's the toughest one for him to win.


Thomas Muster and Sergi Bruguera now play on the Delta Tour of Champions, which culminates in the Masters Tennis at the Royal Albert Hall in London (29 November - 4 December).

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/tennis/4554229.stm

Nocko
05-19-2005, 01:44 PM
Thanks mitalidas for the article. Uhhh, sounds tough for Rogi, but he can do it!!! He looks more patient than last year, use his time to ajust to RG much more than before, but still needs a bit more good luck than other GS. ;)

GOOD LUCK ROGI!!!
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Puschkin
05-19-2005, 01:47 PM
Federer in France - the champions' verdict
By Piers Newbery
How would you have played him on clay?

SB: On clay I would go to the court sure that I was going to win, but on the other surfaces I would go to the court sure that I was going to lose. I would just play my game.

On clay, I used to think I was going to win for sure. Roger is only going to have trouble with the guys that play well on clay.
Against the ones that are not so good on clay he will win easily. He may have trouble against Ferrero, Moya, Nadal, Coria, Nalbandian because they play so much on clay with a lot of top-spin.



Bruguera, the only player who ever made me turn off the TV during a tennis match, sorry Sergi ;)

Yasmine
05-19-2005, 01:58 PM
Last news is Lleyton is out of RG! :sad: but that less for Roger ;)

yanchr
05-19-2005, 02:27 PM
Thanks mitalidas for the article :)

The two dirters have almost everything right about Roger's chance to actually win RG. For Roger to finally win RG, there must be a combined mixture of favourable conditions going all smoothly for him, plus the luck blessed by God. This year, Roger seems very determined and ready to finally do sth there, but determination and readiness is not enough for winning the title. I sincerely hope all things will go in favor of him this year just to honor him a chance to complete the Grand Slam, which will surely relieve him of all the pressure of never being able to win RG out of all the greatnesses he has achieveness, and which also will enable him to stay more determined and focused in Wimbledon, the most natural and beautiful surface for Roger's game and the most lovely GS for many Roger fans, where he has a decent shot at rewriting the history I believe.

The draw is to be made tomorrow. May his draw cherished with a golden touch by God's hand :worship:

Skyward
05-19-2005, 03:05 PM
Just to think about it, last year McEnroe brothers predicted that Roger would win FO before USO. According to them the USO open courts are too fast for him, the weather is too humid and hot, the city is too noisy, the underdog loving crowd is hostile.

Puschkin
05-19-2005, 03:20 PM
Just to think about it, last year McEnroe brothers predicted that Roger would win FO before USO. According to them the USO open courts are too fast for him, the weather is too humid and hot, the city is too noisy, the underdog loving crowd is hostile.

LOL, we are all human after all ;)

lsy
05-19-2005, 04:37 PM
all the blah blah blah yeah sure he can win, but most likely not blah...I'm :yawn: reading it, just bring it on...I can't wait to see how will he do this year, win or not!!! This year, twice he lost, he put up a good fight, if he has to lose in RG, I hope it will be the same, no more straight sets loss pls.

One thing I kept thinking was the Rome fina, I'm really impressed with how Coria slides on court (few runs then slides in perfect timing), he used that in the most effective way to chase down shots and that just saves lots of his energy I think.

Though that probably have to do with one's comfortability on the surface, it's hard to improve or be great on it all of sudden.

Dirk
05-19-2005, 04:47 PM
Roger slides very well on clay not as well as Coria but good enough to win RG. Roger can win this baby. Stop reading so much into the Guga loss. Guga likely would have beaten anyone that day. Roger can do it. I just hope he does it this year so his mind can be at ease. :)

RogiFan88
05-19-2005, 06:20 PM
Isy, Coria IS a claycourter after all and SHOULD be able to slide on clay -- he's not even playing quite as well as he was last yr or in 2003 when he won so many clay titles.

Lots of guys move v well on clay and it does look nice: Ferrero, Gaudio, Moya, Corretja, Costa, Robredo... so many! These are the guys brought up on clay mostly.

Rogi's certainly better than Lleyton any way... as for Pandy, he's getting better but it's not natural and he looks awkward [he was taught by Tarik].

babsi
05-19-2005, 07:09 PM
With just a few tiny things going in his favore,he most defenetly CAN win it - who would question that?

That does not mean - he ever will,but this year is as good as any other - so just let´s!
Dirk is right,the faster he can win this one,the better - that would lift a drementous burden from his shoulders and help him to truly be the best he can be!

I havend seen any tennis since the AO,no kidding - this event better be televised somewhere or else :(- I have to think that trough


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RogiFan88
05-19-2005, 08:48 PM
Trabert, Federer, Myskina To Receive ITF Honors In Paris
Tony Trabert By Tennis Week
05/19/2005

International Tennis Hall of Fame president and Grand Slam champion Tony Trabert will return to the city where he captured consecutive Roland Garros championships in 1954-55 to receive a prestigious honor.

Trabert will be be presented with the Philippe Chatrier Award, the International Tennis Federation’s highest honor, recognizing individuals for their contribution to tennis in a ceremony in Paris on Tuesday, May 31st at the ITF's World Champions Dinner.

Yannick Noah, who won the 1983 Roland Garros title and led both the French Davis Cup and Fed Cup teams to championships, was the Philippe Chatrier Award winner last year. Billie Jean King received the award in 2003.

The ITF World Champions Dinner will honor top-ranked Roger Federer and reigning Roland Garros champion Anastasia Myskina as the 2004 ITF World Champions.

Federer was the ITF Junior Boys World Champion in 1998 and is the fifth player since the award was established in 1978 to have earned both honors, joining Ivan Lendl, Stefan Edberg, Martina Hingis and last year's ITF World Champion, Andy Roddick.

Bob Bryan and Mike Bryan and Spain's Virginia Ruano Pascual and Paola Suarez of Argentina will be honored as the ITF Doubles World Champions for 2004.

The Bryans, the 2003 ITF World Doubles Champions, beat out Mark Knowles and Daniel Nestor based on their consistent performance in 2004 that featured seven tournament titles, including the successful defense of the Tennis Masters Cup crown, and three finals, including the Australian Open. The twins were undefeated in Davis Cup play as the United States advanced to the Davis Cup final, falling to Spain.

Ruano Pascual and Suarez earned World Champion honors for the third consecutive year.

Related story: The Tennis Week Interview: Tony Traberthe Tennis Week Interview:

http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=12982&bannerregion=

Skyward
05-19-2005, 10:07 PM
Federer may be looking past French Open to Wimbledon

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpb3M3YzRkBF9TAzk1ODYyNTg0BHNlYwN0 bQ--?slug=federerfrench&prov=st&type=lgns

Ok, the title has cought my eye, but the article says nothing new.http://sk8ting.fastbb.ru/gif/sm/sm158.gif

TenHound
05-20-2005, 02:11 AM
So much depends on the draw - out tomorrow - and the weather - no 2nd week rainouts, forcing him into tough matches on consecutive days. If he doesn't have to play Thuggy, there's no one he can't beat - and he's mentally stronger than Coria.

But after reading that excellent assessment from BBC article someone so nicely posted, RG sounds like the Consolation Prize for players without the imagination to win the others! "He'll have to suffer....." Why bother - just don't endanger Wimby. Rest up, take tender loving care of your dear feet, space your tournaments well for the rest of the year and Make RG your last loss of the year. That would be Awesome!! Anyway, since he lost in 3rd round last yr. he should pick up points.

ste
05-20-2005, 06:59 AM
thx for the articles and news guys :hug:

Puschkin
05-20-2005, 07:29 AM
thx for the articles and news guys :hug:

I don't want to sound like a policeman ;) , but if we put the news and articles in the "news and articles" thread and leave the RG discussion for this one, it might be easier to follow, just a proposal :p

TenHound
05-20-2005, 07:54 AM
Puschkin, my article from the Independent wasn't about Roger (& it was short) - should I still have put it on that thread? I thght. that thread was for articles about him?

Stevens Point
05-20-2005, 10:45 AM
The latest info.

World Number one Roger Federer will face Sweden's 2005 ATP Milan winner Robin Soderling an current No58 in the first round of French Open.

Yasmine
05-20-2005, 10:46 AM
I'm looking for the full draw but obviously not out on the site yet;) :shrug:

fightclubber
05-20-2005, 10:56 AM
I want the draw NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW


GOOD LUCK RO !!!!!!!!!!:worship:

Purple Rainbow
05-20-2005, 10:56 AM
Not officialy confirmed, this Federer-Soderling matchup. It'd be a good first round draw, though! :yeah:

fightclubber
05-20-2005, 11:15 AM
Nadal ssed number 4--- please tell me he willbe on the other side of roger draw?????
Silvy

Hewitt and Dent pull out
Australian Lleyton Hewitt, whose rib injury has made insufficient progress, and the American Taylor Dent, suffering from an ankle problem, have withdrawn from the 2005 French Open. They will be replaced by two "lucky losers". A further consequence of their withdrawal is that world no. 5 Rafael Nadal will now be seeded 4th, while Juan Carlos Ferrero, ranked 34th in the world, will now be the 32nd seed.

Shabazza
05-20-2005, 11:38 AM
Nadal ssed number 4--- please tell me he willbe on the other side of roger draw?????
Silvy

it's likely that Federer and Nadal face each other in SF :( - but lets hope for the final :angel:

Stevens Point
05-20-2005, 11:46 AM
It looks like 1st round vs Soderling,,, 2nd round Kohlschreiber/Almagro,,,3rd round Ch. Rochus/Llodra/Fernando Gonzales,,,, 4th round Hrbaty/Shalken/Moya,, then Henman/Nalbandian/Ancic,,,. He could meet Nadal in SF

Stevens Point
05-20-2005, 11:53 AM
Gaudio and Gasquet are in Nadal's quarter (possible Nadal - Gasquet 3rd round)

Coria is in the other half.

yanchr
05-20-2005, 11:55 AM
Soderling/Almagro/Gonzalez/Moya/Nalbandian/Nadal/……it seems

Be careful of Almagro...

Moya and Nalbandian are doubtful...

Nadal in the semi :rolleyes: But Nadal may draw Gasquet in the 3rd...Go Richard!!!
When I for once want Safin in the semi, he appears not... :o

An OK draw I think. Now time for Roger to make the best of it...

Stevens Point
05-20-2005, 11:57 AM
If Roger wants the title here, he has to beat everyone anyway, so possible Nadal showdown in SF is right for me. I am personally happy with the draw. :)

Good luck Champ!!!

Shabazza
05-20-2005, 12:17 PM
No Federer vs Nadal in final :sad: but a SF between them is the next best thing. Go for it Roger :cool:

lsy
05-20-2005, 12:52 PM
Soderling/Almagro/Gonzalez/Moya/Nalbandian/Nadal/……it seems

Be careful of Almagro...

Moya and Nalbandian are doubtful...

Nadal in the semi :rolleyes: But Nadal may draw Gasquet in the 3rd...Go Richard!!!
When I for once want Safin in the semi, he appears not... :o

An OK draw I think. Now time for Roger to make the best of it...

He should have no problem with Soderling though the latter recently beat Nalby...but really he should get past this. Almagro indeed can be tricky, I seen him before and he's an aggressive player. I check and rogi never play him before, but surprised to see that Almargo 1st rd opponent Kohls actually beat Almagro before the only time they meet on clay last year. Moya certainly hasn't be in good form due to injuries, so...then of course we also might have Gonzo, which is dangerous any day but Rogi had played and beaten him many times before.

From QF onwards, it's expected to be tough anyway, at least his potential opponents maybe nalby/henman, dangerous but probably better than coria or so...

Well after that, it's just too far to look ahead!

I think it's an ok draw for Rogi, I hope he can get past the 1st week this year then we'll talk about the later rounds. But then it's all talk now...most importanly it's Rogi to be focus and take every match seriously which I know he will for sure.

COME ON ROGI!!!

Shabazza
05-20-2005, 12:58 PM
fully agree with you isy

lsy
05-20-2005, 01:06 PM
fully agree with you isy

:wavey: Shabazza! Welcome, I never seen you here before I think?

Better hurry to get a ticket on the Fedex train before it starts it's journey next Monday. I hope it won't be too bumpy for you on your first ride :tape:

mitalidas
05-20-2005, 01:06 PM
You need a little bit of luck in a Slam run, and I am very disappointed that it has not come in the form of a good draw for Roger :sad:

This half has maybe 7 people who are contenders or darkhorses. Yes, Roger can come through, but you just feel his chances were reduced today. An optimistic possibility is that he comes through the SF, but tired as hell

lsy
05-20-2005, 01:11 PM
You need a little bit of luck in a Slam run, and I am very disappointed that it has not come in the form of a good draw for Roger :sad:

This half has maybe 7 people who are contenders or darkhorses. Yes, Roger can come through, but you just feel his chances were reduced today. An optimistic possibility is that he comes through the SF, but tired as hell

Well if you look at it the other perspective, at least he didn't get Ferrero, Richard etc in earlier round...however it is, I think there really is nth much to complain about this draw, of course unless we want to compare it with Coria or Andre :lol: But then Coria might have to play Ferrero or Safin in QF, so....

Doesn't matter, as long as Rogi can get past the 1st week, I'm positive :bounce:

mitalidas
05-20-2005, 01:13 PM
You're great, Isy, to take such a nice positive attitude. I'm gonna do the same :hug:

In fact, others agree with you:

By Dave James
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=30&art_id=qw1116588965970S163

Paris - Roger Federer's campaign to become just the sixth man to win all four Grand Slams was boosted on Friday when he was presented with a gentle passage through the opening skirmishes at Roland Garros.

But the 23-year-old top seed could clash with Spanish teenage sensation Rafael Nadal, the fourth seed, in the semifinals.

In what could be a tricky third round clash, Nadal may face fellow 18-year-old Richard Gasquet of France, one of just two men to beat Federer this year.

World No 1 Federer, who has never got beyond the quarterfinals of the French Open in six attempts, will face Sweden's Robin Soderling in the first round.

His first serious test shouldn't arrive until the fourth round where he could face Spain's 1998 champion Carlos Moya over whom he holds a 5-0 career record.

Argentina's David Nalbandian, a semifinalist here in 2004, lies in wait in the quarterfinals and that could prove difficult as Nalbandian holds a 5-2 record over Federer.

The Swiss ace, however, has won their last two meetings and warmed up for Roland Garros by defending his Hamburg Masters title to stretch his record to 19 successive winning finals.

"To come through Hamburg without losing a set was very nice, and it gives me great belief that I can also do better at the French Open," said Federer.

"I have a good feeling, but feelings don't matter much once it starts. It's the real deal over five sets for two weeks. I cannot think about aiming for the title. The last few years have been too disappointing for me, and I really have to focus on the early rounds."

Last year Federer's dream of adding the French Open to his collection of Wimbledon, US Open and Australian Open titles, was crushed by triple champion Gustavo Kuerten in the third round.

Skyward
05-20-2005, 01:18 PM
I don't find this draw to be so horrible.
I' ve never seen Almagro, but apart from beating Safin his results are nothing to write about. If Roger's feet hold up, he should be ok. At the moment I don't want to think who he can meet in the QF, SF, Soderling is the one to care about.

lsy
05-20-2005, 01:24 PM
You're great, Isy, to take such a nice positive attitude. I'm gonna do the same :hug:


Perharps coz I expected worse :o

But I'm not taking it for granted, I'm worried about Almagro in the 2nd rd for sure, let's just hope that this guy doesn't suddenly find his form and come out firing winners everywhere :tape: But seriously, I will be extremerly surprised if Rogi crash out early this year. Not when he's all focus and had put his words into practice, he had been practising a lot in the centre court so far. He's determined no doubt, let's just hope he doesn't give himself too much pressure though.

GOOOOOOO ROGI!!!

:bounce: :bounce:

Nocko
05-20-2005, 01:38 PM
Wow!! How tough the draw of top harf is!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Yeah, Rogi's block is very dangerous, but Nadal's block!!!! :speakles: :speakles: :speakles: There are Gasquet(oh, he is seeded now!!), Gaudio, Ferrer and some other tricky players.I'm not sure Nadal can survive or not... :rolleyes:
ummm, How about the bottom half?...Ha, Safin meet JCF on 3rd( again!) Coria looks easier until QF :mad: and.. Rodick...kind of lucky draw again(AO,too :mad: )but wait... Volandri is very dangerous, and Ljubo or Puerta.. , then Agassi!! Good luck Pandy!
Well, on red clay, there are too many dangerous players. :scratch: I think every block has tough draw!! :p
:banana: Good Luck Rogi!! Just Step by Step!!! :banana:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Daniel
05-20-2005, 01:50 PM
The draw loos fair compared to Nadal;s draw :o

Go Roger, good luck vs Soderling :worship: :hug: :kiss:

Daniel
05-20-2005, 01:53 PM
ROLAND-GARROS, MESSIEURS, 1er tour

1-Roger Federer (Sui) -Robin Soderling (Suè)

Nicolas Almagro (Esp)-Philipp Kohlschreiber (All)

Christophe Rochus (Bel)-Qualifié

Michaël Llodra (Fra)-25-Fernando Gonzalez (Chili)

17-Dominik Hrbaty (Slq)-Janko Tipsarevic (Scg)

Sjeng Schalken (P-B)-Qualifié

Qualifié-Kevin Kim (E-U)

Alberto Martin (Esp)-14-Carlos Moya (Esp)

10-David Nalbandian (Arg)-Marcos Baghdatis (Chy)

Tomas Berdych (Tch)-Jeff Morrison (E-U)

Oscar Hernandez (Esp)-Qualifié

Qualifié-18-Mario Ancic (Cro)

31-Juan ignacio Chela (Arg)-Rainer Schüttler (All)

Victor Hanescu (Rou)-Michal Tabara (Tch)

Luis Horna (Pér)-Jérôme Haehnel (Fra)

Potito Starace (Ita)-7-Tim Henman (G-B)

4-Rafael Nadal (Esp)-Lars Burgsmuller (All)

Mardy Fish (E-U)-Xavier Malisse (Bel)

Peter Wessels (P-B)-Ricardo Mello (Bré)

Qualifié-30-Richard Gasquet (Fra)

23-Sébastien Grosjean (Fra)-Juan Monaco (Arg)

Thierry Ascione (Fra)-Davide Sanguinetti (Ita)

Andreï Pavel (Rou)-Florent Serra (Fra)

Paradorn Srichaphan (Tha)-16-Radek Stepanek (Tch)

11-Joachim Johansson (Suè)-Fernando Verdasco (Esp)

Hyung-Taik Lee (Cor-S)-Alex Calatrava (Esp)

Gilles Simon (Fra)-Olivier Patience (Fra)

Jiri Vanek (Tch)-20-David Ferrer (Esp)

26-Jiri Novak (Tch)-Bjorn Phau (All)

Felix Mantilla (Esp)-Tomas Zib (Tch)

Dmitry Tursunov (Rus)-Stefan Koubek (Aut)

Julien Benneteau (Fra)-5-Gaston Gaudio (Arg)

8-Guillermo Coria (Arg)-Kenneth Carlsen (Dan)

Qualifié-Robby Ginepri (E-U)

Jürgen Melzer (Aut)-Wayne Arthurs (Aus)

Gilles Müller (Lux)-29-Mikhail Youzhny (Rus)

21-Tommy Haas (All)-Florian Mayer (All)

Vincent Spadea (E-U)-Albert Costa (Esp)

Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (Esp)-Olivier Rochus (Bel)

Qualifié-12-Nikolay Davydenko (Rus)

15-Tommy Robredo (Esp)-Peter Luczak (Aus)

Qualifié-Jean-René Lisnard (Fra)

Gustavo Kuerten (Bré)-David Sanchez (Esp)

Scott Draper (Aus)-19-Thomas Johansson (Suè)

32-Juan Carlos Ferrero (Esp)-Karol Beck (Slq)

Fabrice Santoro (Fra)-Jan Hernych (Tch)

Thomas Enqvist (Suè)-Qualifié

Raemon Sluiter (P-B)-3-Marat Safin (Rus)

6-Andre Agassi (E-U)-Qualifié

Jonas Bjorkman (Suè)-Igor Andreev (Rus)

Arnaud Clément (Fra)-Alexander Popp (All)

Ivo Karlovic (Cro)-28-Nicolas Kiefer (All)

24-Feliciano Lopez (Esp)-Paul-Henri Mathieu (Fra)

Qualifié-Santiago Ventura (Esp)

Albert Montanes (Esp)-Sargis Sargsian (Arm)

Gaël Monfils (Fra)-9-Guillermo Canas (Arg)

13-Ivan Ljubicic (Cro)-Mariano Puerta (Arg)

Qualifié-Qualifié

Qualifié-Qualifié

Qualifié-22-Nicolas Massu (Chili)

27-Filippo Volandri (Ita)-Cyril Saulnier (Fra)

Greg Rusedski (G-B)-Qualifié

Jose Acasuso (Arg)-Max Mirnyi (Bié)

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (Fra)-2-Andy Roddick

Shabazza
05-20-2005, 02:11 PM
:wavey: Shabazza! Welcome, I never seen you here before I think?

Better hurry to get a ticket on the Fedex train before it starts it's journey next Monday. I hope it won't be too bumpy for you on your first ride :tape:

:wavey: yep i'm new here, about the Federer Express think i will join soon

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 02:21 PM
I don't know in what reality Almagro and Gonzalez on clay are considered a "gentle passage" through a draw, but perhaps Mr James has some information I don't. Those are exactly the kind of big-hitting players who will test Federer's defence and his footing on Chatrier to their limits in the early rounds; apart from the win over Safin in Rome, don't forget how close Almagro came to upsetting both Coria and Kuerten on clay last year. And as for Gonzalez, enough said; sure, it'll be hard for him to stay red-hot for three out of five sets, but he's due another good showing at RG after that QF two years ago. And with Moya, Nalbandian, Nadal lined up for the next three rounds... it just gets better.

I'm so sick of the players I like being clustered together in one tough half and the players I loathe getting an easy ride in the other half. Heck, three of my favourite players are in the top quarter. Coria's and Agassi's draws are an absolute joke, I wonder if Agassi gets some draw privileges as a former RG champion. Federer has had the tougher draws of the top players in other events and ended up winning them, but they were on fast surfaces, that's a crucial difference.

Stevens Point
05-20-2005, 02:22 PM
Welcome/Wilkommen Shabazza!!! :D :wavey:

SUKTUEN
05-20-2005, 02:26 PM
GO ROGER THE KING~!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Skyward
05-20-2005, 02:30 PM
http://bestsmileys.com/scared/3.gif Sjengster, now I'm really scared. I completely forgot about Guga-Almagro 5 setter last year. But F. Lopez beat him this year, so there's some hope. ;)

SUKTUEN
05-20-2005, 02:30 PM
Roger do not afraid for them~!!!!!!!

WyveN
05-20-2005, 02:38 PM
But F. Lopez beat him this syear, so there's some hope. ;)

Not to mention his 6-11 win loss record for the year.

SUKTUEN
05-20-2005, 02:48 PM
Not too good

Dirk
05-20-2005, 02:50 PM
Roger's draw looks good. Almago will be a nice test for Roger but really I don't see him hurting Roger unless Roger is a mess. The gonzo match will also be a nice test. When he makes it past the first week, then he will get very dangerous.

SUKTUEN
05-20-2005, 02:51 PM
Hi Dirk~~~

Roger will be careful~~ :(

ytben
05-20-2005, 02:52 PM
I think the draw is not so bad. It certainly can be much much worse, eg. Ferrero, Gasquet, Guga in his quarter. Almagro is certainly a big obstacle, I have watched him against Moya last year. He plays a bit like Gonzo imo, so on a good day Rogi'd better watch out. But Rogi certainly can do it.

Good luck in RG Rogi :bounce: You can do it!

SUKTUEN
05-20-2005, 02:54 PM
Of course I trust him can do it!! :bounce: :bounce:

fightclubber
05-20-2005, 02:56 PM
I don't know in what reality Almagro and Gonzalez on clay are considered a "gentle passage" through a draw, but perhaps Mr James has some information I don't. Those are exactly the kind of big-hitting players who will test Federer's defence and his footing on Chatrier to their limits in the early rounds; apart from the win over Safin in Rome, don't forget how close Almagro came to upsetting both Coria and Kuerten on clay last year. And as for Gonzalez, enough said; sure, it'll be hard for him to stay red-hot for three out of five sets, but he's due another good showing at RG after that QF two years ago. And with Moya, Nalbandian, Nadal lined up for the next three rounds... it just gets better.

I'm so sick of the players I like being clustered together in one tough half and the players I loathe getting an easy ride in the other half. Heck, three of my favourite players are in the top quarter. Coria's and Agassi's draws are an absolute joke, I wonder if Agassi gets some draw privileges as a former RG champion. Federer has had the tougher draws of the top players in other events and ended up winning them, but they were on fast surfaces, that's a crucial difference.
Oh !!! Poor Roger.
The only good thing here, is that IF he survives, He will be "THE CHAMPION"
I can imagine a Federer Nalbandian (or henman) a Gasquet and or Nadal- Gaudio... and a dream: QF Federer / Gasquet and a final, Federer Coria.
Guille had an easy draw I think, all is Lleytons fault.
So step by step. I have faith in Roger. I hope a revenge of Richard against Rafa.... and will be also cool, if not, A gaudio Nadal.....
Lets hope they eleiminate each other and be tired for Roger.
Im confident Roger will reach in good conditions to Nadal and or Henman.
just my opinion.. base more on my heart but... as a capricorn.. a bit mental... too
Kisses
Lets cheer for a GREAT roger victory. He will be the camp of the champs if he survive this tought draw
VAMOS ROGER:worship: :worship: :worship:

RogiNie
05-20-2005, 02:57 PM
Good luck Roger!! :bounce:

SUKTUEN
05-20-2005, 03:02 PM
the old man will teach Roger's movement? :devil:

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 03:27 PM
Oh Rone, Poor Roger.

What the heck's that supposed to mean? :p

ste
05-20-2005, 04:09 PM
Good luck then in the 1st round Roger!!!

yanchr
05-20-2005, 04:12 PM
I don't know in what reality Almagro and Gonzalez on clay are considered a "gentle passage" through a draw, but perhaps Mr James has some information I don't. Those are exactly the kind of big-hitting players who will test Federer's defence and his footing on Chatrier to their limits in the early rounds; apart from the win over Safin in Rome, don't forget how close Almagro came to upsetting both Coria and Kuerten on clay last year. And as for Gonzalez, enough said; sure, it'll be hard for him to stay red-hot for three out of five sets, but he's due another good showing at RG after that QF two years ago. And with Moya, Nalbandian, Nadal lined up for the next three rounds... it just gets better.
You simply can't get yourself out of a hell of a habit of being negative all the time, can you :p

Let's admit the fact that he could've drawn much worse than this factual one, which I already am thankful to. Almagro is kind of a player anyone is gonna meet, probably the Almagros, if he wants to go all through in RG and there is definitely a worse counterpart than him. Gonzo ya, we all know about him. He can play crazy sometimes but the fact that Roger won all their three meetings with two of them on clay is surely not a coincidence I believe. As for Moya and Nalbandian, I'm not sure about their chance to go deep. Should be depending on their health and form on a given day. Much likely there will appear some dark horses in place of them. Nadal, well, I'm not thinking that far, see what a draw he gets...If they do meet in the semi, just bring it on and Roger will give his all and be extra motivated.

I still remember clearly that I actually was very positive after seeing Roger's draw last year while the result turned out to be quite the opposite. So having said the above, one match a time. I'm just sending positive vibes to whoever are negative here. If you don't have faith in yourself even before the tourney sets out, you are already in a losing position. So let us have some faith because I sincerely believe Roger does. :)

And I REALLY don't think it's a bad draw ;) Oh well, let's forget somebody who keeps getting good-ass draws in big stages :o

lsy
05-20-2005, 04:14 PM
What the heck's that supposed to mean? :p

:lol: I suppose RonE is like the God of Rogi's forum, so it's sth like :

"oh God...poor roger"... ;) :p

or maybe Silvy just mix you up with Ron, considering you both like to write a lot ;)

or Silvy just really miss Ron :hug:

fightclubber
05-20-2005, 04:23 PM
What the heck's that supposed to mean? :pSorry A bad type. I was going to write something to Ron, hAD 2 OPEN WINDOWS AND TYPE HIS NAME HERE... SORRY
I will change it, and sorry
silvy

fightclubber
05-20-2005, 04:33 PM
:lol: I suppose RonE is like the God of Rogi's forum, so it's sth like :

"oh God...poor roger"... ;) :p

or maybe Silvy just mix you up with Ron, considering you both like to write a lot ;)

or Silvy just really miss Ron :hug:
heee
eeee
yES i MISS Ron and I was going to write soemhting for him cos he is on vacations while we are here suffering.. and considering he does not like clay... was a good chance, but... I mixed windows and then I posted the one I wanted to Ron but was my answer to Sjengster.
This things happen when you are suppose to be working... and you ARE THINKING IN YOUR fave tENNIS PLAYER EVER
RIGHT?
haaaaaaaaaaaa

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 05:08 PM
You simply can't get yourself out of a hell of a habit of being negative all the time, can you :p

Yep, you know me so well, I'm always the negative one. Maybe it's just called being cautious. Anyway, I don't think one can say something like "the Almagros of this world", I saw the match against Safin and not only does he have a very heavy forehand but a first serve that was regularly clocked at over 200 km/h. Yes, he could certainly have got worse draws, but he could have got better ones too, that's all I'm saying.

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 05:09 PM
:lol: I suppose RonE is like the God of Rogi's forum, so it's sth like :

"oh God...poor roger"... ;) :p

or maybe Silvy just mix you up with Ron, considering you both like to write a lot ;)

or Silvy just really miss Ron :hug:

Actually, I did think for a while it was the second reason. :p

No worries, Silvy. ;)

yanchr
05-20-2005, 05:28 PM
Yes, he could certainly have got worse draws, but he could have got better ones too, that's all I'm saying.
No you were actually saying much more than that if you didn't notice... :rolleyes: :p

If he has a thought of winning RG at least once in RG which he surely has, then the Almagros are for him to overcome inevitably.

lsy
05-20-2005, 05:30 PM
Guess what? It's not going to be Soderling 1st round...I don't know if it's good or bad news really...*runs to see who'd won qualifying*

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http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2005-05-20/200505201116576163730.html


Should he overcome Gasquet, and then potentially Gaston Gaudio (5) in the quarters, Nadal will cross swords with Roger Federer in the semis. That is another fantastic encounter in the making, and the world number one looks well capable of reaching the last four this year. Federer's first-round opponent will be a qualifier or lucky-loser. Initially Federer had been drawn against Robin Soderling, but the Swede was seeded 33 after compatriot Joachim Johansson withdrew.

Spain's Nicolas Almagro should put up more resistance in the second round and Fernando Gonzalez (25), David Nalbandian (10) and Carlos Moya (14) are other potential obstacles on Federer's path to the semis.

Shy
05-20-2005, 07:25 PM
Well, I can see Roger being in trouble from the second round on. It is a though draw.However, if he can't beat them that's mean he is not god ernough to win RG this year.

Dirk
05-20-2005, 08:12 PM
Roger has beaten far better clay courters than Almago. He can handle him. If he doesn't then Roger really would have to have a bad day. I actually relish Roger getting a few challenges the first week because he will be stronger once surviving them. Sjengster is never at ease about anything. It doesn't take any guts to take such a route when following tennis. Roger has better clay skills and a better record than Almago therefore he should and will win. Just try that approach once Sjengster. HAVE SOME FUCKING FAITH IN ROGER. :fiery:

Puschkin
05-20-2005, 08:21 PM
Just skipped through the draw ( may have overlooked something), but OMG: Roger, this is it: TAKE IT!

mitalidas
05-20-2005, 09:30 PM
Roland Garros — a graveyard of heroes

Rohit Brijnath

Federer is seen as the player of the greatest tennis but not yet its greatest player, writes Rohit Brijnath




Two hundred years hence when archaeologists search for clues to the broken dreams of old tennis heroes they will commence by sifting the dust at the ancient arena of Roland Garros.

Deep in the Paris clay washed by tears, amidst the small shards of shattered rackets, the earth will tell poignant stories. Of John McEnroe, succumbing when just a volley away from beating Ivan Lendl in the 1984 final; of Pete Sampras' five-set gallantry in 1996 over Sergie Bruguera and Jim Courier, both French champions, but finding his body could go no further.

Of how Stefan Edberg's sinewy splendour, and Jimmy Connors's grimacing desire, and Boris Becker's pounding ferocity, would all come to die here. Most of these men would win the other three slams, but clay would claim them and alter history. If McEnroe had conquered France he would be one of the five greatest ever; if Sampras had, Rod Laver would concede his throne.

Greatest player?


So then, 200 years from now, what will these archaeologists find about Roger Federer? The bones of Swiss defeat or the faint footprints of famous victory?

Federer is already seen as the player of the greatest tennis we have seen, but not yet its greatest player. That designation appears imminent, too, but it will be undisputed if he wins the French to become the sixth player after Don Budge, Fred Perry, Laver, Roy Emerson, and Andre Agassi to succeed at all four Slams.

Both Sampras, the defeated, and Thomas Muster, the (1995) victor, dubbed the French the `toughest' Slam to win, but then Federer is tennis' toughest player. He is also its most beautiful and when he performs you half expect critics from a paper's art, not sports, section to be in attendance. We know, too, he can paint on any canvas for last summer he produced consecutive victories at Wimbledon (grass), Gstaad (clay) and Toronto (hard court).

But if on most surfaces his game is so astonishingly dominant that allowing him one serve seems the only fair handicap, there remains the suspicion that clay faintly erodes his menace. His career winning percentage is 77.6 on hard court, 78.4 on grass but 68.8 on clay. Everywhere else he is favourite, at the French it is Rafael Nadal; everywhere else men look anxiously to see if they are his chosen lunch, at the French even he might secretly wish for a friendly draw.

No theory sits easily with Federer and clay. One might say that at 80 per cent efficiency, he can withstand most challenges on grass, but on his off days, like against Gustavo Kuerten at the French last year, may have more fatal implications. That said, he appeared less fluent in Hamburg on clay last week, but still won without dropping a set. This man does not merely own tennis' finest `A' game, but also its most capable `B' game.

The leveller


Perhaps the leveller is not merely surface, but opponent. Unlike grass, clay is rife with specialists; unlike hard court where the Swiss has no immediate peer, on clay the distance between him and the pack of Coria, Nadal, Gasquet closes minutely.

His outrageous talent suggests Federer must win the French one day, but sport routinely makes a mockery of such assumptions. Nevertheless, it makes this Open even more enchanting, for there is something pleasing to the fact that even tennis' grand riddler is confronted by a puzzle he is yet to solve. It is almost an affront to his genius and it could spur him. So, too, could his belief that he is too finely gifted to become just another headstone in this graveyard of heroes.

Dirk
05-20-2005, 10:24 PM
No, Roger must not be buried hear. He must bury ALL WHO OPPOSE HIM HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO FORTH NINJA AND KILL!!!!!!!!!

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 10:56 PM
Roger has beaten far better clay courters than Almago. He can handle him. If he doesn't then Roger really would have to have a bad day. I actually relish Roger getting a few challenges the first week because he will be stronger once surviving them. Sjengster is never at ease about anything. It doesn't take any guts to take such a route when following tennis. Roger has better clay skills and a better record than Almago therefore he should and will win. Just try that approach once Sjengster. HAVE SOME FUCKING FAITH IN ROGER. :fiery:

I'd rather adopt my approach than have the "guts" of makro, for example. I'm not at ease about this tournament specifically, if it were any other Slam I wouldn't be having these doubts about Federer. And yes, when you're also a Henman and Gaudio fan like me, you learn not to take anything for granted.

Thanks for the advice, I've never had faith in him before and I needed to be given a talking-to about that.

PaulieM
05-20-2005, 11:07 PM
I'm so sick of the players I like being clustered together in one tough half and the players I loathe getting an easy ride in the other half. Heck, three of my favourite players are in the top quarter. Coria's and Agassi's draws are an absolute joke, I wonder if Agassi gets some draw privileges as a former RG champion. Federer has had the tougher draws of the top players in other events and ended up winning them, but they were on fast surfaces, that's a crucial difference.
ugh tell me about it, it always seems the harder i wish for someone i hate to get an awful draw the better their draw is :mad:

Dirk
05-20-2005, 11:27 PM
I'd rather adopt my approach than have the "guts" of makro, for example. I'm not at ease about this tournament specifically, if it were any other Slam I wouldn't be having these doubts about Federer. And yes, when you're also a Henman and Gaudio fan like me, you learn not to take anything for granted.

Thanks for the advice, I've never had faith in him before and I needed to be given a talking-to about that.

Your bitching after his hamburg win was unneccesary and now you continue to grip. Not every Federer fan around here enjoys nor agrees with your pessimism. It's not warranted at this time. Wait until he plays a bad match then come back...ok? :rolleyes:

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 11:35 PM
I wasn't bitching, I was merely trying to keep things in perspective. Like I said at the time, I have never actually declared that he will not win RG this year, nor have I said he is not one of the favourites. And I'm not asking every Federer fan to enjoy or agree with my "pessimism", the last I heard this was a public forum and I'm entitled to my opinion. I like to think that it's only because I've been cautious and haven't been presumptuous about any victory that Federer has had the kind of success he's enjoyed over the past 18 months. Of course that's not logical, but being a fan of any sport or player tends to lead to logic being thrown out of the window at some stage.

It's not like I'm going to be in here dancing with glee and sneering that I proved you wrong if Federer does play a bad match - conversely, when undomiele predicted that Federer wouldn't defend in Hamburg and I said I hoped she would be proved wrong, I assured her I wouldn't be rubbing it in her face if he got through the draw and I didn't. We both want the same result from this event, I just don't quite have your messianic conviction about every one of Roger's matches, is that fair enough?

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 11:41 PM
As an aside, I was just looking at the OOP thread for tomorrow and the players remaining in the final round of qualifying... wouldn't it be great if Roger could draw Vliegen for the second year in a row in the opening round? Or failing that, the winner of Guccione v (Dick) Norman - how on earth did these two manage to get through two rounds of claycourt qualifying in the first place?

Dirk
05-20-2005, 11:43 PM
First off you should have rubbed it in Undomiele's face because she is a Federer hater who thinks RG is just simply "above" him. You can say what you want but you had to expect some Federer fans to grill you after pouring cold water on his victory in Hamburg. He has some tough matches likely this first week but to act like he is the underdog which you seem to do with Almago and Gonzo is ridiculous. Federer is a better clay player than them and you need to stop acting paranoid the moment he has to face a spanish player or a south american. Stop being such a sourpuss about Federer on clay and at RG. He can't post bad results here for the rest of his career. I don't see any evidence that I shouldn't be full of hope because he has been training every day on Chariter so the possiblity of him being a mess like he was against Kiefer and Guga last year is getting slimmer in my mind.

Dirk
05-20-2005, 11:44 PM
How about blake? He still in it?

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 11:46 PM
How about blake? He still in it?

Yes, he's still in it - probably not that bad a draw considering he doesn't really have the patience needed for clay, but he's still got firepower on any surface and I'd prefer a serve and no groundstroker in the first round. But then I suppose Blake would be ideal preparation for Almagro and Gonzalez, considering how they all play...

Dirk
05-20-2005, 11:50 PM
I want Blake because they ESPN will likely show Roger's match.

PaulieM
05-20-2005, 11:56 PM
no please not james, i love him. of course if need be roger can feel free to kick his ass :sad:
i'll admit that as much as i love roger and believe that he can do anything, i can't help but be nervous about the upcoming weeks. for now i'll be happy to see him do better than he did last year, after that then we can talk about the rest of it. :hug:

Sjengster
05-20-2005, 11:56 PM
First off you should have rubbed it in Undomiele's face because she is a Federer hater who thinks RG is just simply "above" him. You can say what you want but you had to expect some Federer fans to grill you after pouring cold water on his victory in Hamburg. He has some tough matches likely this first week but to act like he is the underdog which you seem to do with Almago and Gonzo is ridiculous. Federer is a better clay player than them and you need to stop acting paranoid the moment he has to face a spanish player or a south american. Stop being such a sourpuss about Federer on clay and at RG. He can't post bad results here for the rest of his career. I don't see any evidence that I shouldn't be full of hope because he has been training every day on Chariter so the possiblity of him being a mess like he was against Kiefer and Guga last year is getting slimmer in my mind.

She's certainly a massive sceptic, I think she still believes Federer is the impatient player of 02/03 who can't hit more than five or six shots in a rally without going for way too much. I read her long rants in the "Will Federer win the French Open?" thread, it's obvious that she desperately wants to preserve RG as a last outpost of safety against Federer domination, but there was some validity to a few of her claims.

Yes, the grilling was understandable considering he had just defended his title without the loss of a set. I did try and make it clear that I was talking about the match in the context of his chances at RG, hence I was doubtful how useful it would be in terms of preparation, but I did also agree that it's better to go into a Slam having won a big warm-up event and he did just enough to win against Gasquet. My only worry is that "just enough" won't get him through the early rounds in Paris, but again that's a worry, not an absolute conviction on my part.

I don't think he's the underdog, I never said that either, but surely you must admit that Almagro and Gonzalez are not "an easy passage" through to the second week; Ginepri and Arthurs, Bjorkman and Clement, now they are easy passages. Really, my concerns with Federer aren't about clay in general as he proved himself in TMS events outside Hamburg when he made the Rome final two years ago; my specific concern is with RG itself. Looking at his results there, I saw his route through to the 01 QF and THAT was an easy passage. OK, so he needed to come back from two sets down to beat Sargsian, that shows he wasn't the kind of player he is now, but it didn't hurt to draw Arthurs twice in a row at RG, in both 00 and 01, before having the misfortune to meet Corretja in the second week both times.

I hope you're right about Chatrier, I don't doubt that he's practised hard on it this week and got more used to the conditions than he has done in the past, and Roche has probably given him a few useful tips as well. But as we all know there's no substitute for matchplay itself, and there we will really see whether he has improved. I think he can have plenty of good results at RG, but the breakthrough needs to come soon, these next couple of years are basically the prime of his career.

Dirk
05-21-2005, 12:13 AM
If Roger has a normal length career then he will play into his early 30s. I could see him contending for this slam late in his career vs Oz which beats him up too much. I would rather him have Almago and Gonzo because the confidence he will gain upon beating them will set the stage for the 2nd week.

Yes, you are right about undomelie. Why she and Alexito and Deivid among others can't get into Roger is beyond me. Perhaps it's because they developed other faves before closely following Roger therefore don't want him to ruin their careers by taking titles only they should be allowed to win such as RG and other things. I think another thing that turns Roger off to a lot of the clay lovers and Roger haters is that he only plays the big clay court events. He just comes in and wins lots of matches in the big events leading up to RG and makes the transition for the most part look very easy. They don't like that since clay is all about hard work and having a tough time adjusting for the typical hard court players. :rolleyes:

Oh well I just hope Roger makes their RG experience this year miserable.

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 12:28 AM
I hadn't thought about the injury problems the AO seems to be giving him... as for RG, well, I sincerely hope he doesn't end up throwing in Sampras-like performances during his last few years there (not that it's too likely, I mean on clay he really doesn't play anything like Sampras, but obviously the similarities in style and temperament are there to see on faster surfaces). I would say the next three years, including this one, are the best opportunities he will have to win it.

Just not their cup of tea, that's all - and Deivid is not a Federer hater at all, he's said plenty of times he admires him and his game, but he prefers other players. I do think undomiele wants RG to be the exclusive preserve of the claycourt warrior, and Federer doesn't fit into that category, but I think her complaints about him aren't rooted in his game as much as in his domination. I mean, we saw what she posted in the "Is it me?" thread, and I have to agree with you that being a socialist when it comes to sport is rather silly. Mind you, watch me adopt the same attitude when someone else after Federer who I don't like starts ruling the roost, LOL...

I'd rather Roger made our RG experiences happy this year, than made theirs miserable - there is a slight difference. Like I said to undomiele about Federer defending in Hamburg, proving her wrong would be a small but welcome side-effect, nothing more. I mean honestly, who among any of us would care about which set of posters on MTF would be eating humble pie if Roger was holding up the trophy in two weeks' time?

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 12:32 AM
What I said above about understanding posters' dislike of players doesn't apply to alexito BTW, he is clearly a troll. He was at it again in the French Open draw thread in GM, whining about Federer's "easy" draw while completely ignoring the high quality claycourt opponents that Coria and Agassi have been drawn to face. Rogiman gave the best response to him in a thread last week about the Federer-Robredo match.

Dirk
05-21-2005, 12:36 AM
It would shut them up at least for a while. I wouldn't care too much what they would think; I would be too busy being happy for Roger if he won the trophy. Winning RG would make Roger in my mind a better player and put him at ease and cause him to be less irritable which would equal more wins. I actually think it would help his Wimbledon odds to win RG. He would be on such a high that he would be playing more freely. The sooner he wins this even the better for his game.

RogiFan88
05-21-2005, 12:36 AM
She's certainly a massive sceptic, I think she still believes Federer is the impatient player of 02/03 who can't hit more than five or six shots in a rally without going for way too much. I read her long rants in the "Will Federer win the French Open?" thread, it's obvious that she desperately wants to preserve RG as a last outpost of safety against Federer domination, but there was some validity to a few of her claims.

I prefer to ignore such a hindrance as THAT person... I don't think impatience is the real prob for Rogi... it's more a solid, tried-and-true clay strategy [a la Ferrero, Gaudio, Costa, Corretja, Mantilla, Coria, yes, even Nalby].

Yes, the grilling was understandable considering he had just defended his title without the loss of a set. I did try and make it clear that I was talking about the match in the context of his chances at RG, hence I was doubtful how useful it would be in terms of preparation, but I did also agree that it's better to go into a Slam having won a big warm-up event and he did just enough to win against Gasquet. My only worry is that "just enough" won't get him through the early rounds in Paris, but again that's a worry, not an absolute conviction on my part.

Yes, certainly having won Hamburg will help Rogi's prep for RG as what he really needs [and I've mentioned this somewhere] is MATCHPLAY on CLAY. Not enough is indeed not enough to win RG. I believe that in order to win RG, a player needs a lot of matchplay vs. the tough clay players [see most of the above-mentioned players]. That means playing more than just the 3 clay TMSes. I mean, how many RG champs [of recent years, say going back to Guga in 97] have managed to win it without playing one or two of: Valencia [Mallorca in those days], Barcelona, Estoril, Munich?

Rogi absolutely must get used to playing these guys on the clay to get the measure of them and judge HIS level on clay. Barcelona is an excellent tourney to get your feet dirty, w a strong field -- a great test for him vs. the best claycourters because they are the players he has to beat on the way to the RG title. If he wants to win RG, he has to be able to beat such players and there are a lot of them.

I don't think he's the underdog, I never said that either, but surely you must admit that Almagro and Gonzalez are not "an easy passage" through to the second week; Ginepri and Arthurs, Bjorkman and Clement, now they are easy passages. Really, my concerns with Federer aren't about clay in general as he proved himself in TMS events outside Hamburg when he made the Rome final two years ago; my specific concern is with RG itself. Looking at his results there, I saw his route through to the 01 QF and THAT was an easy passage. OK, so he needed to come back from two sets down to beat Sargsian, that shows he wasn't the kind of player he is now, but it didn't hurt to draw Arthurs twice in a row at RG, in both 00 and 01, before having the misfortune to meet Corretja in the second week both times.

I didn't even bother to read that entire article but the "easy passage" was enough to put me off! :p Meeting Almagro for the first time is not ideal for Rogi; I w not underestimate the guy. And Fena is due a win vs. Rogi -- he DID push him at MC and looked pretty impressive to me, so watch out, Rog. It was precisely that QF match vs. Alex in 01 where I first saw Rogi play! He was young and carefree and definitely NOT serious. Too bad he didn't learn more fr the master. He prob figured he was doing well enough to make the QF then!

I maintain that RG is THE toughest slam to win -- it's the most physically demanding [lots of running and getting into long, drawnout rallies] and you can't win by simply mowing your way thru the draw; lots of tough competition [unlike Wimby]; it's more a war of attrition; you have to be serious and committed fully to try and win it; I don't believe that there are too many "fluke" winners of RG [and I hate when people call Costa a "fluke" winner -- just look at his pedigree and titles won... all on clay, btw; same w Gaudio] and these guys had to beat someone favoured or big to win it. I agree w Bruguera who said that you have to suffer to win RG -- remember Guga almost being knocked out by M Russell in 2001? He had to overcome that hurdle and in the end it actually helped him win it [infortunately for Alex].

The question is: is Rogi prepared to go the distance and suffer and get down and dirty to win this prize?? We'll see!

I hope you're right about Chatrier, I don't doubt that he's practised hard on it this week and got more used to the conditions than he has done in the past, and Roche has probably given him a few useful tips as well. But as we all know there's no substitute for matchplay itself, and there we will really see whether he has improved. I think he can have plenty of good results at RG, but the breakthrough needs to come soon, these next couple of years are basically the prime of his career.

I completely agree -- I don't want to hear Rogi say that he still has a few years to win it -- each yr that goes by, gets harder and the odds are vs. you [Costa and AA being the exceptions, winning it later].

I just dream that Rogi can just win RG and get it over w and take the pressure off... I'm getting just a little impatient w him now. Enough talking, Rogi, now is the time to act!

ALLEZ, ROGI!!!

Dirk
05-21-2005, 12:40 AM
I am glad we are talking this out. I don't appreciate you calling me a Federer Troll. I would like to think that I tend to state my views too intelligently to be considered a troll. My faith in Federer is based on his results and his ability.

RogiFan88
05-21-2005, 12:40 AM
Nothing w give me [and Sjengst and Dirk, I dare say] more pleasure than to see Rogi hold up that Coupe des Mousquetaires in 2 wks' time -- Rogi won't be the only one crying. ;)

Dirk
05-21-2005, 12:43 AM
Alex is a master claycourter?????? He has what one clay master? Alex is a great claycourter but please he is no JC or Guga. Roger will only get better on clay as time goes.

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 12:46 AM
I am glad we are talking this out. I don't appreciate you calling me a Federer Troll. I would like to think that I tend to state my views too intelligently to be considered a troll. My faith in Federer is based on his results and his ability.

I didn't actually call you a troll at any time, did I? No, you have too much of value to say to be called a troll, in fact I can't think of many committed Federer fans who are trolls - it's usually the ones who root for him because they dislike other players, such as Roddick/Hewitt etc., who do the most trolling. I might have put makro in that category considering some of his ludicrous predictions about Federer, but the reassuring (or worrying) thing about him is that he's actually being serious, from what I can tell.

Nothing wrong with faith - but too much faith can lead to disappointment at times, is all. ;)

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 12:49 AM
Alex is a master claycourter?????? He has what one clay master? Alex is a great claycourter but please he is no JC or Guga. Roger will only get better on clay as time goes.

One clay TMS, Rome, and finals in Monte Carlo and Hamburg, plus titles in Gstaad and Kitzbuhel, plus a couple of finals at a little event called RG. He certainly was a master claycourter, not a champion claycourter but one of the most tenacious competitors on this surface and a tough assignment for any player, on clay but also on hardcourts. Sadly all of that has to be said in the past tense.

RogiFan88
05-21-2005, 12:52 AM
I don't know in what reality Almagro and Gonzalez on clay are considered a "gentle passage" through a draw, but perhaps Mr James has some information I don't. Those are exactly the kind of big-hitting players who will test Federer's defence and his footing on Chatrier to their limits in the early rounds; apart from the win over Safin in Rome, don't forget how close Almagro came to upsetting both Coria and Kuerten on clay last year. And as for Gonzalez, enough said; sure, it'll be hard for him to stay red-hot for three out of five sets, but he's due another good showing at RG after that QF two years ago. And with Moya, Nalbandian, Nadal lined up for the next three rounds... it just gets better.

I'm so sick of the players I like being clustered together in one tough half and the players I loathe getting an easy ride in the other half. Heck, three of my favourite players are in the top quarter. Coria's and Agassi's draws are an absolute joke, I wonder if Agassi gets some draw privileges as a former RG champion. Federer has had the tougher draws of the top players in other events and ended up winning them, but they were on fast surfaces, that's a crucial difference.

Yep, my thoughts EXACTLY! When I saw the draw, I thought, great, Rogi and all these hot guys [well, on the clay anyway ;) ] all together nice and cosy -- so many potential 3rd rd or R16 matches that could be FINALS! Ridiculous -- poor Rafa, he must feel awful! Meanwhile, over on the other half, in the bottom, Guille s have absolutely NO prob making the final -- he has no excuse whatsoever! If he doesn't make it, he'll have me to answer to! :p But it's unfortunate that Ferrero, Safin, Robredo are in the Coria quarter... what are their chances??

As for AA... well, we'll see, it's not as easy as Coria's -- who knows which qualifier he'll get and Andreev s beat him on clay but I never trust these young guys vs. AA w that annoying intimidation factor. :rolleyes: The earlier one can get to AA the better.

Pandy -- Acasuso could beat him w his fairly good form as of late and then there's Volandri. But tons of qualies in that section. This is a v open quarter...

Dirk
05-21-2005, 12:55 AM
Ok so I forgot a lot about what he accomplished but Alex was doomed to not winning the biggest clay title. 02 was it for him. You did call me a troll once in the GM but I won't hold it against you. ;) Roger will win RG sometime in his career. I don't see him being in that grave with Mac, Pete and the other legends who never won it. He is just too good to not win it.

RogiFan88
05-21-2005, 12:57 AM
One clay TMS, Rome, and finals in Monte Carlo and Hamburg, plus titles in Gstaad and Kitzbuhel, plus a couple of finals at a little event called RG. He certainly was a master claycourter, not a champion claycourter but one of the most tenacious competitors on this surface and a tough assignment for any player, on clay but also on hardcourts. Sadly all of that has to be said in the past tense.

You beat me to it! Don't ever call Alex a "journeyman" shudder... Alex had the misfortune to be playing in the Rios/Guga/Sampras/AA/Moya era. He won Gstaad 3 times and the tourney values him highly [he was a huge draw for them -- even moreso than Rogi a few yrs ago]. Alex is also one of the most intelligent players out there... I was just watching his win over Ferrer in Madrid04 in R1 -- what a smart match he played, constantly frustrating David into losing, basically! It was a joy to watch him construct his points [and this on a hardcourt]. George w enjoy that match. ;)

Dirk
05-21-2005, 12:57 AM
i would love to Andre to make the final vs. Roger. :devil: I won't lose any sleep about that match-up. :rolls:

RogiFan88
05-21-2005, 01:01 AM
Another bit of trivia: Alex is one of the few Spanish players to have a 2-0 h2h over Nadal [and on clay AND hardcourt]! So there! ;) And before anyone says it, Alex beat Nadal at the same time Nadal was beating Costa and Moya.

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 01:03 AM
He isn't as much of an out-and-out serve-volleyer as McEnroe, Edberg and Sampras were, his game is more complete than that, but then I suppose that creates added pressure - ie, if you have every shot in the book, shouldn't you be able to win on any surface? I certainly think it's possible, I'm not sure he'll ever be the outright favourite going into RG unless he racks up the sort of numbers that other players like Coria and Nadal have managed to. That isn't too likely considering his game is still ultimately better suited to fast courts and in a way it's good that for once the focus of attention isn't entirely on him going into a Slam, but then I suppose he's never going to be overlooked by the media, since this is the one he hasn't won.

Speaking of Bruguera and suffering, that may explain Federer's reluctance to play Barcelona - last time he did in 2000 he got handed a double breadstick by the double RG champion. Ha ha, Deivid nominated that match in the "Bad losses that had you LOL."

TenHound
05-21-2005, 05:04 AM
As far as the draw, if Gaudio wins it this year, he's Really Earned it. For a Defending Champ -yes, i know it was handed to him & even then he did his best to drop it - he's got the worst. If Coria doesn't win it this year, he has only himself to blame. I can't remember seeing a draw w/2 such lopsided halves.

A best case scenario, is that the kids wear out their little 18-year old bodies.

So much of this tournament is about calculations & values for Roger. How are his feet. How much does he want to tire himself out so close to Wimby, where Pandy is seriously gunning for him. What's more important to him.

One final thought - everyone seems to be talking as if Hamburg & Paris are the same surface. They're both clay, but very different. PMac said last yr. that Roger didn't really know how to move on the Paris clay. Said he was slipping around a lot. My first concern is whether or not he's remedied that. If not, all this talk is irrelevant. So, let's wait and see how he looks.

I haven't even seen him in ages, since none of the clay courts were televised where I am. It seems he's moving more toward serve-volley. It'll be interesting to see what accomodations he makes to try to get off the court faster to save his feet.

Also, someone upthread said something about him playing into his 30's. He's said he will play for 10 yrs - but didn't say when that started. I suspect it means 28. He also said he figures he has a 3 yr. window at the top - so he's halfway through that, which is why I'm so distressed about his foot problem coming up at such a critical juncture in his career.

One request - when people post articles, I would Greatly Appreciate it if you could at least note the publication it comes from.

TenHound
05-21-2005, 05:45 AM
Check out article in iht.com ->sports by Chris Clarey. (Roger also amplifies Pete's comment that he would have had to change racquets to win Paris, and he wasn't willing to.)

*M*
05-21-2005, 07:03 AM
Check out article in iht.com ->sports by Chris Clarey. (Roger also amplifies Pete's comment that he would have had to change racquets to win Paris, and he wasn't willing to.)I saw this too, and just put it in the News and Articles thread. :)

Puschkin
05-21-2005, 07:52 AM
I just don't quite have your messianic conviction about every one of Roger's matches, is that fair enough?

Messianic conviction ;) is maybe not what I have, but the draw turned out to be better than I feared. That's why I am rather optimistic.

I would not take any opponent lightly, on the other hand, there is also no need for exaggerated panic when reading names like Almagro, Gonzalez or Moya. Yes, the matches can be tough, but there will be no great prize in the end without some efforts on the way!

El Legenda
05-21-2005, 09:36 AM
Good Luck Rogerer :dance:

WyveN
05-21-2005, 10:04 AM
I think Rogers foot problem is greatly exaggerated, I am certain the only cause was the insane amount of matches Roger played almost back to back on hardcourts this year. It really shouldnt be a problem on clay.

Shabazza
05-21-2005, 10:29 AM
I think Rogers foot problem is greatly exaggerated, I am certain the only cause was the insane amount of matches Roger played almost back to back on hardcourts this year. It really shouldnt be a problem on clay.

exaggerated indeed! Where there any statements from Federer that his feet could prevent him from good results at RG??

yanchr
05-21-2005, 11:39 AM
I'd rather Roger made our RG experiences happy this year, than made theirs miserable - there is a slight difference.
You are a noble fan with a lot of sense.

Maybe being cautious can help you approach the matches esp the potential losses with a better attitude. But being a little bit more faithful won't hurt you big either :wavey:

All in all, we are hoping for the same.

SUKTUEN
05-21-2005, 01:22 PM
I want to watch Roger vs David ' match~~ :banana:

RonE
05-21-2005, 02:52 PM
Wonderful- Almagro in R2 just the type of player I was worried about :mad: MP against Guga last yr, almost beat Coria in Hamburg. Go out all guns blazing nothing to lose. Then Fena :banghead: Both of those before we even talk about the 4th round. And of course Coria has the easiest draw as usual :rolleyes:

I really and truly despise this tournament :sobbing:

SUKTUEN
05-21-2005, 02:55 PM
Is we need to wait tommorrw for RG set who play Roger first ?

babsi
05-21-2005, 03:08 PM
You are a noble fan with a lot of sense.

Maybe being cautious can help you approach the matches esp the potential losses with a better attitude. But being a little bit more faithful won't hurt you big either :wavey:

All in all, we are hoping for the same.

I agree with you, yanchr - it all depands on the right mix in life.
I like to be slightly more on the pessemistic side - it helps to break the fall.
I can´t help but to think,that a downright optimistic person has to leed a misserable life of constent disappiontments.

The draw isn´t half bad - Roger´s feet shouldn´t really be a problem - he is off the hard courts for some time now.
A Grand Slam isn´t supposed to come by easaly - two weeks from now we will know a great deal more.
Thanks everyone for there thoughtful input :)

Good luck,Roger


__________________________________________________ _______________
There´s nothing wrong with being a loser - it just depands on how good you are at it
(Billie Joe Armstrong)

SUKTUEN
05-21-2005, 03:14 PM
GOOD LUCK Roger~~~ :yippee:

All fans in the world love you~!! :hug: :hug:

PaulieM
05-21-2005, 03:46 PM
As far as the draw, if Gaudio wins it this year, he's Really Earned it. For a Defending Champ -yes, i know it was handed to him & even then he did his best to drop it - he's got the worst. If Coria doesn't win it this year, he has only himself to blame. I can't remember seeing a draw w/2 such lopsided halves.

A best case scenario, is that the kids wear out their little 18-year old bodies.

So much of this tournament is about calculations & values for Roger. How are his feet. How much does he want to tire himself out so close to Wimby, where Pandy is seriously gunning for him. What's more important to him.

One final thought - everyone seems to be talking as if Hamburg & Paris are the same surface. They're both clay, but very different. PMac said last yr. that Roger didn't really know how to move on the Paris clay. Said he was slipping around a lot. My first concern is whether or not he's remedied that. If not, all this talk is irrelevant. So, let's wait and see how he looks.

I haven't even seen him in ages, since none of the clay courts were televised where I am. It seems he's moving more toward serve-volley. It'll be interesting to see what accomodations he makes to try to get off the court faster to save his feet.

Also, someone upthread said something about him playing into his 30's. He's said he will play for 10 yrs - but didn't say when that started. I suspect it means 28. He also said he figures he has a 3 yr. window at the top - so he's halfway through that, which is why I'm so distressed about his foot problem coming up at such a critical juncture in his career.

One request - when people post articles, I would Greatly Appreciate it if you could at least note the publication it comes from.
i haven't seen roger in ages either :sad: and sadly i'm not going to have time to watch too much of RG. i've been thinking about the wimby issue a lot too, as much as i'd love to see roger win in paris and i know that these next few years is when he probably has his best shot, i'd be increadibly sad if it meant sacrificing his wimby chances. both would be wonderful, but if i had to pick one i'd go with wimby, i love watching him there, and especially watching him win it. ahh i hate the next month or so, it makes me too nervous :sad:
oh and as for how long he'll play, i just hope he plays as long as he can, and as long as he still loves it, of course if i had my way he'd play for forever. :sad:

RonE
05-21-2005, 03:50 PM
This event has another Piggy vs. Weasel final written all over it :o

Shabazza
05-21-2005, 03:57 PM
I agree with you, yanchr - it all depands on the right mix in life.
I like to be slightly more on the pessemistic side - it helps to break the fall.
I can´t help but to think,that a downright optimistic person has to leed a misserable life of constent disappiontments.


a downright optimistic person seeks the good points even in disapointments ;)
i would prefer an optimistic way of thinking rather than a pessimistic - beeing optimistic you may have miserable moments and great dissapointments, but beeing always pessimistic leads to a misarable life
well at least if your pessimistic u can only be positive surprised :p

Beeing more on the pessimistc side would be called beeing realistic these days :rolleyes:

SUKTUEN
05-21-2005, 03:59 PM
:sad: PauliM don't be sad~~

Shabazza
05-21-2005, 04:05 PM
i haven't seen roger in ages either :sad: and sadly i'm not going to have time to watch too much of RG. i've been thinking about the wimby issue a lot too, as much as i'd love to see roger win in paris and i know that these next few years is when he probably has his best shot, i'd be increadibly sad if it meant sacrificing his wimby chances. both would be wonderful, but if i had to pick one i'd go with wimby, i love watching him there, and especially watching him win it. ahh i hate the next month or so, it makes me too nervous :sad:
oh and as for how long he'll play, i just hope he plays as long as he can, and as long as he still loves it, of course if i had my way he'd play for forever. :sad:
I'm sure he plays at least 8-10 more years u will have enough time to enjoy his play, as Suktuen said - don''t be sad :)

SUKTUEN
05-21-2005, 04:10 PM
be happy~~~

Skyward
05-21-2005, 04:20 PM
It's so gloomy here. Let's wait until he's 2 sets to love down to someone, then we can start http://bestsmileys.com/crying/1.gif

SUKTUEN
05-21-2005, 04:22 PM
Skyward you are so happy~!!!! :eek:

babsi
05-21-2005, 04:59 PM
a downright optimistic person seeks the good points even in disapointments ;)
i would prefer an optimistic way of thinking rather than a pessimistic - beeing optimistic you may have miserable moments and great dissapointments, but beeing always pessimistic leads to a misarable life
well at least if your pessimistic u can only be positive surprised :p

Beeing more on the pessimistc side would be called beeing realistic these days :rolleyes:

I´m a very happy person,but I do greatly prefer everything ,that´s based in reality over everything phony - and believing isn´t my thing either - life is way to short to be wasted on things,that can´t neither be proven wrong nor right.
Good god,two Germans being german - soon everybody will leave this place in a hurry!


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There´s nothing wrong with being a loser - it just depands on hoe good you are at it
(Billie Joe Armstrong)

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 05:04 PM
Anyhow, we now know which qualifier it is - an Israeli player called Dudi Sela. No, I've never heard of him either, it should be interesting to see how he plays and how good he is on clay.

babsi
05-21-2005, 05:23 PM
Now we would need RonE,to help us out here - he should know him.

No match reports and no inside information - Ron how could you leave us during such crushle times :(

I love "interessting " matches! 5 setters aren´t allways a bad thing - no,I don´t think he can get a set off Roger - I´m not that pessimistic!


__________________________________________________ ____________________
There´s nothing wrong with being a loser - it just depands on how good you are at it
(Billie Joe Armstrong)

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 05:31 PM
I´m a very happy person,but I do greatly prefer everything ,that´s based in reality over everything phony - and believing isn´t my thing either - life is way to short to be wasted on things,that can´t neither be proven wrong nor right.
Good god,two Germans being german - soon everybody will leave this place in a hurry!


__________________________________________________ _______________
There´s nothing wrong with being a loser - it just depands on hoe good you are at it
(Billie Joe Armstrong)

Don't worry, you're only being slightly Nietzschean here. ;)

WyveN
05-21-2005, 05:31 PM
Anyhow, we now know which qualifier it is - an Israeli player called Dudi Sela. No, I've never heard of him either, it should be interesting to see how he plays and how good he is on clay.

Well this is Selas first pro tour event and he has not played on clay at the challanger/future level for close to a year (while playing a lot of hard court events at that level so its safe to conclude he isnt that comfortable on clay).

Don't think even the pessimists can do much with this match up ;)

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 05:33 PM
He could have gotten someone far tougher, you know, like Guccione or Big Dick. :p

You know, generally speaking I'm an optimist in life - optimistic to the verge of being complacent sometimes. I suppose I tend to get over-cautious when it comes to my passions.

WyveN
05-21-2005, 05:38 PM
He could have gotten someone far tougher, you know, like Guccione or Big Dick. :p


But if he got either of those 2 he would be very unprepared for almagro ;)


You know, generally speaking I'm an optimist in life - optimistic to the verge of being complacent sometimes. I suppose I tend to get over-cautious when it comes to my passions.

I know a lot of people are the other way around. Pessimistic in everyday life but optimistic about things they cant really control themselves such as sport.

Sjengster
05-21-2005, 06:03 PM
That probably makes too much sense for me. But I should clarify, I'm cautious but I'm not an out and out pessimist when it comes to tennis. I nearly always go into a tournament hoping and believing that my favourite players can do well... but more often than not (Federer aside), I'm proved wrong.

TenHound
05-21-2005, 06:51 PM
Compromise everyone, don't expect Roger to win & enjoy what he does. This is the only Major tournament he doesn't enter as the presumptive winner. How glorious a phenomenon that is. I vote for Roger losing in Paris & winning everything he enters afterward. If he chooses carefully - skips Cincy, probably Gstaad - this is very doable. SO LET'S JUST KEEP THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE!

Sjengster, touched on this - Not only does Roger play the most magnificent tennis ever played, not only is he a fine human being - something almost never encountered at the pinnacle of achievement - but he rarely disappoints. This is a special moment for all of us.

If he wins Paris, exalt, otherwise, it's onto to London, where the real pressure sets in.

-wokkel-
05-21-2005, 06:56 PM
Dudi is one part of the junior-doubleschampions of 2003.. ;)

TenHound
05-21-2005, 08:08 PM
Lest Americans, or any Israelis currently wandering about here, think we're going to actually get to see tennis because F***ESPN scheduled 109hrs. & sent over a boatload of commentators, this just in:

Over the course of two weeks, ESPN and ESPN Classic will carry 109-1/2 hours from Roland Garros, 80-1/2 live. Despite the talent and the number of hours, the success or failure -- ratings-wise -- falls squarely on the success of the American players in the event. ...
"Obviously, if the Americans are out, it will affect what we do," Bonnell said. "Our biggest job is to make the viewers aware and get them to know the other players. Our job will then be to interview (Rafael) Nadal and players American viewers don't know. Our job will be to get the stories there." If the Americans are indeed gone, Bonnell will turn to what he calls ESPN's "Drama Unit" for interviews and features. "Dick Enberg is one of the greatest storytellers of all time," Bonnell said. "We've made a huge commitment to tennis, to tell stories so the viewers have something to grab on to."

Hopefully the Americans lose quickly, and they're forced to show Roger, etc.

Skyward
05-21-2005, 08:32 PM
Yes, certainly having won Hamburg will help Rogi's prep for RG as what he really needs [and I've mentioned this somewhere] is MATCHPLAY on CLAY. Not enough is indeed not enough to win RG. I believe that in order to win RG, a player needs a lot of matchplay vs. the tough clay players [see most of the above-mentioned players]. That means playing more than just the 3 clay TMSes. I mean, how many RG champs [of recent years, say going back to Guga in 97] have managed to win it without playing one or two of: Valencia [Mallorca in those days], Barcelona, Estoril, Munich?

ALLEZ, ROGI!!!

I disagree. Three TMS-es are more than enough, playing Barcelona, Estoril, etc., would be overkill. So called clay court specialists play them because they're racking up points and pocketing fat appearance fees there. Roger doesn't need that. Imo, he's not that kind of guy who benefits from a billion matches on any surface. More often then not he does very well after having a break. As someone pointed out, his problem is not clay itself, but conditions at RG, that's why I don't see how playing tournaments like Barcelona can help him in this regard.

Skyward
05-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Hopefully the Americans lose quickly, and they're forced to show Roger, etc.

Wishful thinking. As I understood from the article, they'll be feeding us with some cheesy stories/interviews. It's even worse then Fish vs anybody on clay.

RogiFan88
05-21-2005, 09:38 PM
Rogi played Rafa in a Nike-sponsored exo today :)

Federer face à Nadal
Le numéro 1 mondial retrouve ce samedi l'un des favoris de Roland-Garros, Rafael Nadal. Pas d'enjeu entre Roger Federer et l'Espagnol, puisqu'il s'agit d'un match exhibition de leur équipementier sur les terrains du Stade Paris Jean-Bouin. A leurs côtés, Feliciano Lopez, Lindsay Davenport, Carlos Moya, Daniela Hantuchova, Gaël Monfils...
http://roland-garros.france3.fr/enbref/

NYCtennisfan
05-21-2005, 09:44 PM
^Who won the exo?

Daniel
05-21-2005, 11:14 PM
Good luck Roger :worship: :D :bounce:

Yasmine
05-21-2005, 11:30 PM
"We've made a huge commitment to tennis, to tell stories so the viewers have something to grab on to."
How about letting people enjoy nice tennis? :rolleyes:

Daniel
05-21-2005, 11:59 PM
How about letting people enjoy nice tennis? :rolleyes:

;)

PaulieM
05-22-2005, 12:15 AM
How about letting people enjoy nice tennis? :rolleyes:
oh please don't be crazy, your idea makes no sense at all ;)

Sjengster
05-22-2005, 12:31 AM
It does seem strange that the head honchos at ESPN haven't quite grasped the concept that viewers of tennis generally want to grab on to a live tennis match of some kind, but there you go. I've said it before, but they're never going to grow the market for tennis if they insist on devoting most of their coverage to Americans - I mean, even though it's likely that there will be Americans at the top of the men's and women's game in the future, it surely isn't reasonable to expect the top four or five players to all hail from the USA. There will be a mixture of nationalities, and viewers will have to be exposed to them if tennis is to become less of a niche sport; not that it will ever enjoy the mainstream popularity of other sports, of course.

Still, while I'm here safe and secure in the knowledge of my superior coverage, I should remember that Eurosport are yet again losing two hours in the middle of the afternoon to the turgid spectacle that is the cycling Tour of Italy. They miss out on so many parts of important matches because of that decision, and every time they go to/come back from an advert break we have to sit through an endless parade of sponsors' messages and captions that remove yet more viewing time... the ad hoc nature of Eurosport's approach to tennis can be infuriating.

NYCtennisfan
05-22-2005, 12:43 AM
I hate ESPN's coverage but they know what they are doing. They don't make these decisions on a whim. They put a lot of research into their decisions and I don't see them changing their coverage anytime soon.

Daniel
05-22-2005, 12:48 AM
Their decision are based on money they dont care if fans want to watch tennis or players other than the Americans.

WyveN
05-22-2005, 12:55 AM
"Seen (and heard) practicing Friday at Roland Garros were Andre Agassi with coach Darren Cahill, Dominik "The Dominator" Hrbaty and Roger Federer (with the Swiss appearing to have an unhappy practice) Marat Safin hitting with Carlos Moya, an all-French bat-around with Richard Gasquet and Thierry Ascione, Rafael "The Prodigy" Nadal sparring with Feliciano "F-Lo" Lopez, and Gustavo Kuerten raising the grunting decibel level against mellow fellow bellow-er Gael "Force" Monfils. Interesting to see Club Fed struggling on his hated Stadium Court against a player who has dominated him, as to say 'This is probably as difficult as it will get -- good practice.'..."

http://www.tennis-x.com/story/2005-05-21/d.php

Not a very good sign with Hrbaty a potential 4th round opponent but I am confident he will get used to the court when the tournament starts then again I am not sure tennis-x can be trusted.

Skyward
05-22-2005, 01:31 AM
Last year in Cinci Hrbaty said " He can't beat me, even in practice." :rolleyes:

RogiFan88
05-22-2005, 02:33 AM
I am in anticipation of early exits fr Pandy and AA... fingers crossed! Then maybe we can see some decent matches.

Not a fan of those silly names that the tennis-x writers give to the players...

Daniel
05-22-2005, 03:18 AM
i dont like all those nicknames either.

Stevens Point
05-22-2005, 08:27 AM
Guess what? It's not going to be Soderling 1st round...I don't know if it's good or bad news really...*runs to see who'd won qualifying*


Has anyone here already mentioned that Roger's first opponent in RG is Dudi Sela (ISR), 20 years old, ranked 245? According to the info I've got, he hasn't played in any ATP level tournament yet, however, won surprisingly all the qualification matches. similar to Gasquet in Monte Carlo...(Monte Carlo was his first ATP tournament of the year, I think.)

He is another unknown player,,,. Roger vs unknown player always brings something... vs Gasquet in Monte Carlo,, vs Suzuki in Aussie Open (Suzuki was also ranked above 200 at the time.)

Am I the only one who thinks about his first round match? What if Kohlschreiber wins the first round???

Good luck Roger!!

Daniel
05-22-2005, 08:51 AM
I think it should be an easy match for RG, i hope he does not play many hours every match coz he will need to be fresh later in the tournament.

Go Roger :worship:

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 09:51 AM
although RG 's champion is not be Roger~~ :banghead:

I also do not want Nadal win it~~ :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

a girl 13
05-22-2005, 01:50 PM
Is rogers match on monday?

Nocko
05-22-2005, 01:58 PM
Is rogers match on monday?
I think so. Usually No.1 seed(and top half) appear on first day at Gland slam.
Anyway, the schedule will be anounced this evening. ;)

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 01:59 PM
Is Roger play monday evening ?

Nocko
05-22-2005, 02:09 PM
Finally RG will start tomorrow!! less than in 24 hours.

Uhhh, I'm getting nervous :help:


:angel: GOOD LUCK, ROGI!!!FOR WHOLE 2WEEKS!!!! :angel:

Japnese NINJA cheer you from the tower!!

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Ikke ikke Ninja, Hopp hopp Rogi, Allez Roger, Go~~~!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 02:15 PM
GOOD luck Roger~~~ :devil:

Nocko
05-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Is Roger play monday evening ?
I don't think so. maybe earlier....( but of course it will be night here in Japan and your country) Did you find the world wide clock( shows real time of 4 places -Paris, London, NY, and Melborn.)on RG site? That's great for me. :yeah:

Jimena
05-22-2005, 02:38 PM
Dudes. I just took a look at Roger's draw. Unbelievable. Has he EVER had an easy draw? I mean, Roddick and Agassi seem to get cakewalks constantly and Roger never does. But this draw takes the prize, definitely. He's going to be tested constantly. He has Hrbaty (who he's never beaten), Gonzales, Nadal, Almagro, Nalbandian... in his path.

Hopefully, he'll rise to the challenge. But this draw is too top heavy. I don't think I remember seeing a GS draw as unbalanced as this one. Ridiculous.

Nocko
05-22-2005, 02:42 PM
The schedule is anounced!!!

CHATRIER 11:00 Start


Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1] vs. Katarina Srebotnik (SLO)


followed by
Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Roger Federer (SUI)[1] vs. Dudi Sela (ISR)

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 02:44 PM
2005.5.23CHATRIER 11:00 Start

Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Lindsay Davenport (USA)[1]vs. Katarina Srebotnik (SLO)


followed by
Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Roger Federer (SUI)[1]vs. Dudi Sela (ISR)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Maria Sanchez Lorenzo (ESP)vs. Anastasia Myskina (RUS)[5]

Men's Singles - 1st Rnd. Julien Benneteau (FRA)
vs. Gaston Gaudio (ARG)[5]

a girl 13
05-22-2005, 02:44 PM
On what time is rogers match?

Shabazza
05-22-2005, 02:47 PM
So Roger plays around 13.00. very good i have time to see it. :cool: Can't wait till RG starts tomorrow.

a girl 13
05-22-2005, 02:52 PM
oke thanks

Nocko
05-22-2005, 02:55 PM
Dudes. I just took a look at Roger's draw. Unbelievable. Has he EVER had an easy draw? I mean, Roddick and Agassi seem to get cakewalks constantly and Roger never does. But this draw takes the prize, definitely. He's going to be tested constantly. He has Hrbaty (who he's never beaten), Gonzales, Nadal, Almagro, Nalbandian... in his path.

Hopefully, he'll rise to the challenge. But this draw is too top heavy. I don't think I remember seeing a GS draw as unbalanced as this one. Ridiculous.
Yeah, It's very tough draw, Jimena.
But It could be tougher. Nadal and Gasquet and Gaudio are in the same block, Safin and Coria are in the other side.
And think about last year's USO--Costa(one of 6 Rogi lost last year), Bagdatis( Young qualifier), Santoro(tricky), Agassi(esp in NY!), Henman, Hewitt. Was that easy? and Many commentator didn't expect rogi won.

Rogi plays very well when draw looks tough. I think it's kind of good sign.
Yeah, he can do it!!!

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:00 PM
12:00 noon

Nocko
05-22-2005, 03:06 PM
12:00 noon
:eek: :eek: :eek: So Linsey will finish in1 hour??? very quick!! :D

Nocko
05-22-2005, 03:08 PM
But yes you are right, SUK. Women's are 3sets. could be noon!! :worship:

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:11 PM
Yes~~ woman only need win 2 set~~ :o

Shabazza
05-22-2005, 03:12 PM
Yeah, It's very tough draw, Jimena.
But It could be tougher. Nadal and Gasquet and Gaudio are in the same block, Safin and Coria are in the other side.
And think about last year's USO--Costa(one of 6 Rogi lost last year), Bagdatis( Young qualifier), Santoro(tricky), Agassi(esp in NY!), Henman, Hewitt. Was that easy? and Many commentator didn't expect rogi won.

Rogi plays very well when draw looks tough. I think it's kind of good sign.
Yeah, he can do it!!!
You're right about that Nocko, but RG and USO are totally different for Roger. A tough draw for Roger against clay spacialists is much harder than one against hardcort specialists cause of his playstyle. But he definatly is able to go through it. :)

lsy
05-22-2005, 03:13 PM
I'd rather Roger made our RG experiences happy this year, than made theirs miserable - there is a slight difference. Like I said to undomiele about Federer defending in Hamburg, proving her wrong would be a small but welcome side-effect, nothing more. I mean honestly, who among any of us would care about which set of posters on MTF would be eating humble pie if Roger was holding up the trophy in two weeks' time?

How true, Sjeng! I think we all get irritated with the nonsense in GM at times, and like to whine about it but ultimately that really hardly matters. I will die of happiness and be on the high for the rest of the year if Rogi can win RG this year and 10 threads (or multiply that by xxx times) in GM talking about him killing tennis for all the boring wins can hardly take any of that away from me ;)

Optimist, pessimist, objective, subjective whatever...all of us here just want to see Rogi ahieves great things in his career and we know he has it in him to do that. Really doesn't matter we may all show it in our very different way!

COME ON ROGI!!!!!!

Go and be your best!

Shabazza
05-22-2005, 03:15 PM
But yes you are right, SUK. Women's are 3sets. could be noon!! :worship:
hm, but there's at least a 15 min break + warm up, so i don't think Roger will play before 12.30 even if Davenport wins 6:0 6:0 and don't forget they are playing on clay :angel:

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:15 PM
I have not a big wish of Roger in RG~~

I afraid Roger like Sampras~~

Nocko
05-22-2005, 03:17 PM
You're right about that Nocko, but RG and USO are totally different for Roger. A tough draw for Roger against clay spacialists is much harder than one against hardcort specialists cause of his playstyle. But he definatly is able to go through it. :)
I know.. :sad: :sad: :sad:
But I want to think positive!!!
:bounce: Hopp Rogi!!! :bounce:

tschaeggy
05-22-2005, 03:18 PM
i hope they start to play as early as possible, i have to go for work at 13.00!

ALLEZ ROGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shabazza
05-22-2005, 03:19 PM
How true, Sjeng! I think we all get irritated with the nonsense in GM at times, and like to whine about it but ultimately that really hardly matters. I will die of happiness and be on the high for the rest of the year if Rogi can win RG this year and 10 threads (or multiply that by xxx times) in GM talking about him killing tennis for all the boring wins can hardly take any of that away from me ;)

Optimist, pessimist, objective, subjective whatever...all of us here just want to see Rogi ahieves great things in his career and we know he has it in him to do that. Really doesn't matter we may all show it in our very different way!

COME ON ROGI!!!!!!

Go and be your best!

Wise words, couldn't agree more :bigclap:

Shabazza
05-22-2005, 03:21 PM
i hope they start to play as early as possible, i have to go for work at 13.00!

ALLEZ ROGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To bad for u, maybe u can see the first set. :)

mitalidas
05-22-2005, 03:21 PM
Okay, the qualifier that Roger plays tomorrow has been named.

He is

DUDI SELA
(who is this DUDE-ee)?

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:24 PM
I need in 5:00 pm to 5: 3o pm to ccome home~~

Stevens Point
05-22-2005, 03:27 PM
DUDI SELA
(who is this DUDE-ee)?
I posted a little bit of info of him in post #207. :)

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:30 PM
You know him ? Can you copy the infor ?

Stevens Point
05-22-2005, 03:37 PM
You know him ? Can you copy the infor ?
I didn't write much, and have nothing more to add. Just a small info to let you know basically who he is.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=1704568&postcount=207

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:38 PM
thankyou

ytben
05-22-2005, 03:39 PM
Good luck Rogi! :bounce: I think this is a good thing he will play in Chartier from the first round. I will be getting zero coverage though :mad:

a girl 13
05-22-2005, 03:40 PM
:help: **** I AM SITTING ON SCHOOL AT 13 .00 ! :banghead:

Shabazza
05-22-2005, 03:43 PM
:help: **** I AM SITTING ON SCHOOL AT 13 .00 ! :banghead:
skip the classes, :devil: ...no wait i didn't said that :angel:

mitalidas
05-22-2005, 03:44 PM
Has anyone here already mentioned that Roger's first opponent in RG is Dudi Sela (ISR), 20 years old, ranked 245? According to the info I've got, he hasn't played in any ATP level tournament yet, however, won surprisingly all the qualification matches. similar to Gasquet in Monte Carlo...(Monte Carlo was his first ATP tournament of the year, I think.)



ah yes, here is some info about Dudi from Stvnspoint

GOOD LUCK ROGER

Shabazza
05-22-2005, 03:46 PM
Good luck Rogi! :bounce: I think this is a good thing he will play in Chartier from the first round. I will be getting zero coverage though :mad:

zero covarage of a GS!? :eek: Where do u live?

Yasmine
05-22-2005, 03:46 PM
well glad I'm working from home, and although I don't have tv coverage i'll follow RG radio online. :bounce: go Roger!

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:48 PM
well glad I'm working from home, and although I don't have tv coverage i'll follow RG radio online. :bounce: go Roger!

which job do you do ? :D :D

ytben
05-22-2005, 03:53 PM
zero covarage of a GS!? :eek: Where do u live?

Indonesia :smash: :o And to think I have coverage on the other three slams, all 9 masters, and some small tourneys too :rolleyes: I don't know what they are thinking to miss covering a slam, this is sacrilege I tell you :mad:

SUKTUEN
05-22-2005, 03:55 PM
She is a German~~ Is she ?

Nocko
05-22-2005, 04:04 PM
well glad I'm working from home, and although I don't have tv coverage i'll follow RG radio online. :bounce: go Roger!
Oh, Thanks Yasmine!! I forgot about Radio online. Iwill follow RG radio online and scoreboard.Thanks god, this scoreboard update by every point, they say.

Wow, we post sooooo many today! getting nervous and already be exciting, Yeah?? I am. I spent more than 1 hour after I post 'good night' :o

I sure have to sleep soon. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: