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ATP Master Series Hamburg : 11th May Day 3

36908
05-11-2005, 01:19 AM
What a day of upsets yesterday :

Nalbandian
Agassi

Anyway, let's move on ! :wavey:

Henman-Rusedski should b interesting later.
Both are cartoons on clay

Try this parlay :

FedEx x Coria (nothing is sure win ... :eek: )
FedEx x Coria x Henman x Soderling x Gonzalez x Gasquet x Lopez :eek:

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 01:22 AM
hey no offense mate, but i take it you are one who doesnt believe in value? :lol:

what is that super parlay paying?

36908
05-11-2005, 01:27 AM
hey no offense mate, but i take it you are one who doesnt believe in value? :lol:

what is that super parlay paying?

The power of low odds, mate.
Safe.
Higher the odds (so called value bets), the riskier it is
$5k bet @ 1.22, still reap me almost $1k in profit later ;)

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 01:30 AM
Nalbandian and Ferrer were low odds as well - so your theory doesnt work ;)

36908
05-11-2005, 01:38 AM
Nalbandian and Ferrer were low odds as well - so your theory doesnt work ;)

yes, agree, that's why i put a "no sure win" after the parlay but to me it's worth the risk :)

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 01:40 AM
each to their own, good luck mate :)

36908
05-11-2005, 01:42 AM
My match of the day should be Mafia Safin Gas x JCF !!! :worship:
Cant wait :cool:

Singles on :

1) Henman over Rusedski
2) Soderling over Chela
3) Gonzalez over Ancic
4) Gasquet over Massu
5) Lopez over Volandri

:devil:

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 01:43 AM
hey mate, get rid of pretty boy from youre second parlay, he is going down against volandri

volandri to beat lopez, special of the day

36908
05-11-2005, 01:44 AM
each to their own, good luck mate :)

Thanks, mate !
Best of luck 2 u 2
Hope we help each other win $, yeah ! :drink:

36908
05-11-2005, 01:46 AM
hey mate, get rid of pretty boy from youre second parlay, he is going down against volandri

volandri to beat lopez, special of the day

hmmmn, good luck with your value bet then, mate :D

36908
05-11-2005, 01:57 AM
hey no offense mate, but i take it you are one who doesnt believe in value? :lol:

what is that super parlay paying?

My value bet of the day :

Soderling over Chela :p

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 02:04 AM
hmmmn, good luck with your value bet then, mate :D

2 reasons why I have to thank pretty boy. Firstly for saving me from a completely horrendous day yesterday and secondly for causing an over reaction in the market

I have now got him at $1.60 when it should be more like $1.20 or lower :D

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 02:08 AM
Parlay for me as follows:

Volandri x Gasquet = $2.20

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 04:00 AM
Firstly, just a few issues to tidy up from yesterday. Granted that Ferrer lost, he was not a bad bet. He is in good form but was simply upset on the day by an inconsistant and well rested Berdman. As for Nalbandian, if he wants to lose to Soderling on clay, he may as well become a linesweeper - that way he would be of more use to everbody.

back with tips shortly :p

PS. LOL @ anyone who backed Santoro yesterday ;)

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 04:03 AM
Nalbandian and Ferrer were low odds as well - so your theory doesnt work ;)
but Canas was also at low odds :p

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 04:06 AM
Thanks, mate !
Best of luck 2 u 2
Hope we help each other win $, yeah ! :drink:
and thats possible how?? when you bet against each other :retard:

Action Jackson
05-11-2005, 04:08 AM
I just hope there is no roof on the courts that Volandri and Chela are playing on.

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 04:23 AM
why are people tipping Soderling to beat Chela? don't throw your money away

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 04:32 AM
Puerta over Davydenko @ 1.87
Kuerten over Robredo @ 2.10
Gasuqet over Massu @ 1.55
Volandri over Lopez @ 1.70

Gonzalez x Fed x Ljubi x Coria x Gaudio x Gasquet x Canas @ 4.91

Can really not see Canas losing to Seppi based on class, recent form, and yesterday's performances.

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 04:43 AM
and thats possible how?? when you bet against each other :retard:

maybe if he lays me pipo at better than evens he can help me, but not sure how I can help him :shrug:

Action Jackson
05-11-2005, 04:49 AM
why are people tipping Soderling to beat Chela? don't throw your money away

Chela hasn't been in great form at all, and if the weather is crap it helps the Toad especially if it's indoors.

Given if the conditions are normal then Chela should win, but the toad beat him on clay once though it was in Båstad where he plays well.

Seppi isn't that bad, but that shows how woeful he was that Schüttler got that close.

NotASingleDoubt
05-11-2005, 04:50 AM
Puerta over Davydenko @ 1.87
Kuerten over Robredo @ 2.10
Gasuqet over Massu @ 1.55
Volandri over Lopez @ 1.70

Gonzalez x Fed x Ljubi x Coria x Gaudio x Gasquet x Canas @ 4.91

Can really not see Canas losing to Seppi based on class, recent form, and yesterday's performances.

To me Gaudio is a big question mark. I think it is a bit risky to parlay. Mate

36908
05-11-2005, 04:57 AM
but Canas was also at low odds :p

Most times, they will win ... safe bets.
Just one of those days , PMS , i guess , hehehe :eek:

36908
05-11-2005, 04:59 AM
why are people tipping Soderling to beat Chela? don't throw your money away


Then again, why are people tipping Volandri over Lopez ? :cool:

36908
05-11-2005, 05:01 AM
and thats possible how?? when you bet against each other :retard:


Overall win, not based on single bets :D

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 05:02 AM
Puerta over Davydenko @ 1.87
Kuerten over Robredo @ 2.10
Gasuqet over Massu @ 1.55
Volandri over Lopez @ 1.70

Gonzalez x Fed x Ljubi x Coria x Gaudio x Gasquet x Canas @ 4.91

Can really not see Canas losing to Seppi based on class, recent form, and yesterday's performances.


where are you getting those odds for pipo and richie?

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 05:03 AM
Then again, why are people tipping Volandri over Lopez ? :cool:


becuase it is a lock :cool:

36908
05-11-2005, 05:05 AM
becuase it is a lock :cool:

??? :confused:

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 05:07 AM
To me Gaudio is a big question mark. I think it is a bit risky to parlay. Mate
lol... thanks for the concern mate, but its ok, I wont be putting the house on that parlay. Most of the players are simply in it out of respect (Fed, Coria the Snake, GG ...) :p

36908
05-11-2005, 05:07 AM
hey mate, get rid of pretty boy from youre second parlay, he is going down against volandri

volandri to beat lopez, special of the day

did u chk their H2H mate ? ;)

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 05:11 AM
Chela hasn't been in great form at all, and if the weather is crap it helps the Toad especially if it's indoors.

Given if the conditions are normal then Chela should win, but the toad beat him on clay once though it was in Båstad where he plays well.

Seppi isn't that bad, but that shows how woeful he was that Schüttler got that close.
I know Seppi isn't too bad on the dirt, but I wasnt impressed when he lost last week after gaining the upper hand, and yesterday he served for the match in the 2nd set, before choking and strugging a lot in the 3rd. Schuettler had BP's at 4-4, but couldn't convert.

Canas is a solid top 20 player, it takes someone of note to knock him off generally.

dbnumberone
05-11-2005, 05:16 AM
money plays
Chela d Soderling - seems easy, almost toooooo easy :)
Massu d Flavor of the Month - Massu said he'd see results in 3 weeks upon return - it's been three and there's one, now two - I know I'm going against the board, so gl all
Crazy parlay is....Fed*Henman*Gros*Chela*Gonz*Vola
and for fun, the vchip special, Hrbaty d Step, because vbets are free!
Cheers all.

Lawrence3175
05-11-2005, 05:22 AM
I have a question...how much should i consider a players last match when making a selection?..let me give you an example of what I mean...i am leaning towards Gasquet, but Massu is off a victory against Roddick...also I lean towards Chela, but Soderling was impressive yesterday against a good player....thanks in advance

dbnumberone
05-11-2005, 05:24 AM
imo, it's all about recent play - toss h2h out the window....example - Schuettler had a great year in 2003, same w/ Paradorn and they both would kill anyone betting on them this year...just my 2 cents, gl!

dbnumberone
05-11-2005, 05:30 AM
odds of Berdych @ pinnacle +1375, that ties fed v. zaba as far as the longest plus odds I've seen this year....not that anyone should touch that, just interesting...

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 05:33 AM
Final Plays for me:

Single: Puerta to beat Davydenko - $1.80 (i'll take any opportuinity to fade my fav player :lol: )

Single: Volandri to beat Lopez - $1.62 (Special of the day)

Single: Monaco to beat Novak - $2.00

Parlay: Volandri x Henman x Coria x Gasquet - $2.75 (I actually tend to agree with dnumberone, gasquet v massu will be closer than some think, but I still can;t go past richie the money train)

good luck to all :cool:

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 05:34 AM
where are you getting those odds for pipo and richie?
Betfair mate... for the odds to be more precise I should really deduct my commission rate... but who could be bothered :)

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 05:39 AM
Correction on my above parlay, the value is now $2.68 thanks to henman's odds dropping :sad:

tennis_spider
05-11-2005, 05:42 AM
UPSET Mafia Inc Cream of da Day
===========================

Nicolas Kiefer

TennisMan85
05-11-2005, 05:49 AM
Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA) vs. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP)
Tim HENMAN (GBR) vs. Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR)

Kuerten is back to his peak after his injury period long ago. He played very well in his previous round and for Roberdo, he had JUST recover from a shoulder injury and still not in his peak and win luckily against Waska.

Gamebookers 1.85

Henman and Rusedski are country mate and under normal circumstance, anything can happen. They are team mate during the Davis cup last year and know each other very well. Both are very experienced player,not clay court specialist and both are playing serve and volley style and to me, the match is edge towards Rusedski. Rusedski definately has the upper edge in the serving part and he is definately not bad playing on clay court breaking Fededer once through statistic say otherwise.

Gamebookers 5.50

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 05:57 AM
Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA) vs. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP)
Tim HENMAN (GBR) vs. Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR)

Kuerten is back to his peak after his injury period long ago. He played very well in his previous round and for Roberdo, he had JUST recover from a shoulder injury and still not in his peak and win luckily against Waska.

Gamebookers 1.85

Henman and Rusedski are country mate and under normal circumstance, anything can happen. They are team mate during the Davis cup last year and know each other very well. Both are very experienced player,not clay court specialist and both are playing serve and volley style and to me, the match is edge towards Rusedski. Rusedski definately has the upper edge in the serving part and he is definately not bad playing on clay court breaking Fededer once through statistic say otherwise.

Gamebookers 5.50
Rusedski over Henman on clay... that's some tip ;)

JMG
05-11-2005, 06:23 AM
Puerta x Gonzalez @2.46
Hrbaty x Gasquet @2.91
Kiefer @2.52

I couldn't bet on Volandri :mad:

flmmkrz
05-11-2005, 06:45 AM
seems like on much the same as the rest of you.

Volandri over Lopez
Puerta over Davydenko
Gasquet over Massu

Only slight variations were

Kuerten over Robredo
Safin over JCF
Henman x Fed x Gonzo x Coria

Action Jackson
05-11-2005, 06:46 AM
I know Seppi isn't too bad on the dirt, but I wasnt impressed when he lost last week after gaining the upper hand, and yesterday he served for the match in the 2nd set, before choking and strugging a lot in the 3rd. Schuettler had BP's at 4-4, but couldn't convert.

Canas is a solid top 20 player, it takes someone of note to knock him off generally.

I would never expect Cañas to lose to Seppi at all.

adk
05-11-2005, 06:54 AM
The power of low odds, mate.
Safe.
Higher the odds (so called value bets), the riskier it is


Mate, a value bet isn't any bet with high odds.

A value bet is anything in which you think the bookies are paying more than they should do, hence it gives you 'value'.

:rolleyes:

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 06:59 AM
I would never expect Cañas to lose to Seppi at all.
:)

Action Jackson
05-11-2005, 07:04 AM
:)

Well I like the poster that said tossed H2h out the window. Guga hadn't done anything yet he played Pavel and he won easily like he does all the time when they play.

If Cañas and Monaco meet in the next round I hope Monaco can win a game.

Breaker
05-11-2005, 07:27 AM
Some of these posts over the last cpl of days have been absolute corkers, it seems that some bloke thinks if there is a 'Head to Head' record in favour of one player, he is a lock :haha:

Tonights picks:

Volandri over Lopez ($1.60)
- Bookies have gone mad, should be $1.30 at the most

Puerta over Davydenko ($1.82)
- Another match which seems to be overpriced, i say pound it down!!

Gonzalez x Federer x Phoenix - ($1.85)

Neely
05-11-2005, 07:44 AM
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Nicolas Kiefer

damn, I like your chances! :yeah: :smoke:

MalmöKrampan
05-11-2005, 07:56 AM
Mario is going to ge SPANKED today. Gonzo will school him all the way back to the elementary school. Also Grosjean over Kiwi...and Pipo over Feli. That's a good & safe parlay

36908
05-11-2005, 08:04 AM
The house goes with this :

Gasquet x Gonzalez (how safer can this parlay be ?) :worship:

My bonus wild card plays :

Soderling
Lopez

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 08:04 AM
damn, I like your chances! :yeah: :smoke:
lol... i dont... grosjean will smoke him ;)

36908
05-11-2005, 08:09 AM
Some of these posts over the last cpl of days have been absolute corkers, it seems that some bloke thinks if there is a 'Head to Head' record in favour of one player, he is a lock :haha:

Tonights picks:

Volandri over Lopez ($1.60)
- Bookies have gone mad, should be $1.30 at the most

Puerta over Davydenko ($1.82)
- Another match which seems to be overpriced, i say pound it down!!

Gonzalez x Federer x Phoenix - ($1.85)

i reckon it's a bookie trap to make you think like that.
u think bookies are stupid to give higher odds on a sure win than usual ?
wake up !!!
J Lo all the way :D

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 08:09 AM
The house goes with this :

Gasquet x Gonzalez (how safer can this parlay be ?) :worship:

My bonus wild card plays :

Soderling
Lopez
careful with Gasquet, Massu is no pushover ;)

36908
05-11-2005, 08:10 AM
what would today's upset be ??? :confused:

Berdych to oust FedEx ??? :p

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 08:11 AM
The house goes with this :

Gasquet x Gonzalez (how safer can this parlay be ?) :worship:

My bonus wild card plays :

Soderling
Lopez

out of curiosity what does your username 36908 mean?

and i see I haven't been able to convince you out of the lopez pick

36908
05-11-2005, 08:12 AM
careful with Gasquet, Massu is no pushover ;)

hmmm, dat means no parlay 4 me then :cool:

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 08:13 AM
what would today's upset be ??? :confused:

Berdych to oust FedEx ??? :p
well according to you its pretty boy to beat pipo isn't it?

dude if you don't have one already could you please open up a betfair account? :)

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 08:14 AM
i reckon it's a bookie trap to make you think like that.
u think bookies are stupid to give higher odds on a sure win than usual ?
wake up !!!
J Lo all the way :D
go away Santoro, get out of tennis. ;)

36908
05-11-2005, 08:14 AM
out of curiosity what does your username 36908 mean?

and i see I haven't been able to convince you out of the lopez pick


it's ok. good luck mate !
my nick ? get 2 asian underworld baddies to join forces, wat do u get ? :devil:

36908
05-11-2005, 08:17 AM
well according to you its pretty boy to beat pipo isn't it?

dude if you don't have one already could you please open up a betfair account? :)

i'm not familiar with the concept of "lay"ing the bets yet :p
sorry.

Are u whacking it all on Volandri then ? 60+% profit

36908
05-11-2005, 08:19 AM
go away Santoro, get out of tennis. ;)

To quote an example :

Odds for f Roddick win @ $1.40, remember ? against Massu
Look wat happen :mad:

36908
05-11-2005, 08:22 AM
go away Santoro, get out of tennis. ;)

i will .... IF Pretty Boy loses :worship: ;) :D

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 08:31 AM
i will .... IF Pretty Boy loses :worship: ;) :D


i'm going to quote you on that tomorrow once the result is known

Ays25
05-11-2005, 08:56 AM
tennis85 and 36908, are you guys serious about your picks? or just trying to get high the odds of the favourites?!
or maybe you are agents of bookies?

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 09:05 AM
To quote an example :

Odds for f Roddick win @ $1.40, remember ? against Massu
Look wat happen :mad:
thats not an example, I never bet on Roddick outright. :wavey:

36908
05-11-2005, 11:15 AM
thats not an example, I never bet on Roddick outright. :wavey:


not you, mate.
just an example, in a general sense

36908
05-11-2005, 11:17 AM
i'm going to quote you on that tomorrow once the result is known

500 on Pretty Boy (whom they said friends) @ 2.25

and I'm dead serious :cool:

DeccyB123
05-11-2005, 12:27 PM
Hrbaty @ 1.83

That''s all from me tonight :zzz:

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 01:46 PM
terrible terrible night... chasing losses with 5k on Canas x Volandri @ 1.95... surely the favs have to start winning sooner or later :sad:.

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 02:05 PM
volandri is a lock, who cares about canas :D

happy928
05-11-2005, 02:39 PM
Volandriiiiiiiiiii baby.......bring it home, pweese!!!! Gonzo decided to join on the sightseeing with the agassis today and rest of this week so, I need you badly....

JMG
05-11-2005, 04:49 PM
Hrbaty x Gasquet :banana:

Gonzo x Puerta :rolleyes:

come on Kiefer!

36908
05-11-2005, 08:58 PM
i'm going to quote you on that tomorrow once the result is known

Congrats !
Wish you handsome profits and best of luck
I'll take my cue now :worship: :worship: :worship:

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 10:12 PM
i will .... IF Pretty Boy loses :worship: ;) :D


quoted and duly noted :cool:

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 11:16 PM
terrible terrible night... chasing losses with 5k on Canas x Volandri @ 1.95... surely the favs have to start winning sooner or later :sad:.


ouch :sad:

MalmöKrampan
05-11-2005, 11:36 PM
Congrats !
Wish you handsome profits and best of luck
I'll take my cue now :worship: :worship: :worship:

Why did you think he'd win anyway?

its.like.that
05-11-2005, 11:44 PM
possibly worst tennis night ever :sad:

Bilbo
05-12-2005, 12:03 AM
worst day ever for me

bad gambler
05-12-2005, 12:19 AM
possibly worst tennis night ever :sad:

sign of a great punter is how he rebounds

go get em today tiger ;)