fightclubber
05-03-2005, 08:37 PM
gO rOGER! gO!
wE HOPE YOU BE 100 PERCENT RECOVER!
GOOD LUCK
SILVY;)
wE HOPE YOU BE 100 PERCENT RECOVER!
GOOD LUCK
SILVY;)
******HAMBURG 2005 MS*******fightclubber 05-03-2005, 08:37 PM gO rOGER! gO! wE HOPE YOU BE 100 PERCENT RECOVER! GOOD LUCK SILVY;) lunahielo 05-03-2005, 08:55 PM Thanks for starting this. Silvy! :hug: I hope you are healing Roger. Best of luck in Hamburg...defend your title. ROGER! :worship: RonE 05-03-2005, 09:03 PM Thank you Silvy for starting this thread :worship: That makes me feel better already about Roger's chances in Hamburg. fightclubber 05-03-2005, 09:07 PM Thank you Silvy for starting this thread :worship: That makes me feel better already about Roger's chances in Hamburg. Hee eheee Luna & Rone! You are so funny!! I get nervous.... But I hope we get luck as we had the other 4 tournaments I started the thread. And Roger seems to like this tournament, and its the last one before RGarros (FO) So lets put our energy here OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????? Heres the site address. http://www.dtb-tennis.de/AmRothenbaum/8646.php?selected=8645 RonE 05-03-2005, 09:18 PM So lets put our energy here OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????? Si si, definitivamente!!! :yeah: Just be sure you also start the Rolland Garros thread and don't forget to add the asterisks (*******) :D Stevens Point 05-03-2005, 09:20 PM So, it is real that he is playing in Hamburg!! :) This means his feet will be or already are OK, right?? Go Roger!! :D Silvy is right. We have to give some gas here!!! Skyward 05-03-2005, 09:35 PM http://bestsmileys.com/cheering/5.gif Good luck! RogiFan88 05-03-2005, 10:54 PM I'll try to remember to post the draw once it's out so we all know who the "enemies" are! ;) Gracias, Silvy! Que tal?? lunahielo 05-04-2005, 12:02 AM Originally posted by RonE by Silvy~ :) Originally Posted by fightclubber So lets put our energy here OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????? ĄPor seguro! Muchas buenas energías a~~~~~~>Roger :D Art&Soul 05-04-2005, 01:13 AM Yeah, Silvy you always bring luck to Roger with your threads :p :cool: So Rogi stay healthy and do your best in Hamburg, ALEZZ GOOOOOOAL :D Puschkin 05-04-2005, 06:11 AM Thank you Silvy for starting this thread :worship: That makes me feel better already about Roger's chances in Hamburg. me too, but of course I am an enlightened person and not at all superstitious, but please Silvy, take care to start the RG thread later on ;) :wavey: SUKTUEN 05-04-2005, 10:30 AM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Roger~!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: Fight in Hamburg ~!!! :bounce: :bounce: Fight Nadal~!!!!!!! :fiery: :fiery: Nocko 05-04-2005, 12:15 PM Thanks Silvy ! :hug: Now we have this thread, Ron is here, ..Everything seems perfect. :woohoo: Hope Rogi will recover fully. (Otherwise I don't want to push him.) :bigclap: Good Luck Roger. Show who the No.1 player is!!! :bigclap: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: SUKTUEN 05-04-2005, 01:23 PM Good Luck Roger. Show who the No.1 player is!!! I love This ~!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: Fergie 05-04-2005, 02:12 PM Hopp Rogi!!! :bigclap: avocadoe 05-04-2005, 03:10 PM Hopp Rogi!!! :bigclap: Looking forward to next week a little early this week :) Doris Loeffel 05-04-2005, 03:39 PM Good luck Roger ste 05-04-2005, 07:35 PM hope for you that you will come back even stronger now!!! Go for the defending MISSION :banana: babsi 05-04-2005, 07:39 PM Hopp,Roger - hope you are healthy and stay healthy! ___________________________________________ Thereīs nothing wrong with me this is how Iīm supposed to be in the land of make believe that donīt believe in me (Billie Joe Armstrong) lucashg 05-04-2005, 08:07 PM Vamos Roger! I hope he's healing really well and quickly for him to come back strong and fit and defend his title in Hamburg, I'm sure it means a lot to him and to all us fans. Has he confirmed that he's really playing Hamburg? I believe he said he'd do that in the middle of the week, didn't he? It's Wednesday already. And ALLEZ Roger! All the luck! Stevens Point 05-04-2005, 11:14 PM Vamos Roger! Has he confirmed that he's really playing Hamburg? I believe he said he'd do that in the middle of the week, didn't he? It's Wednesday already. Well, it is not sure if he really confirmed with his own words that he plays in Hamburg, but his official site says he will play and the media is also saying that he is playing. Wir drücken den Daumen, Roger!! Titel verteidigen!! :) fightclubber 05-05-2005, 12:20 AM OH Guys you are so Funny. I started MC ( ok, with Rogi fan in different thread...) and we did not win... but the def was a greaT FIGHT EH??? Ill start RGarros, too Lets hope this be a good sign, the other day I had a dream with Roger and a trophy in france...OHHHH I want this dream come true.... Meanwhile I went to trophy thread and got this info.. to give us a complete view of what our Roger did in Hamburg...... Look at the names... some clay especialist... HE CAN DO IT!!! 2002 TMS Hamburg 1st Federer def. Lapentti 6-1, 6-4 2nd Federer def. Ulihrach 6-3, 6-0 3rd Federer def. Voinea 7-5, 6-4 QF Federer def. Kuerten 6-0, 1-6, 6-2 SF Federer def. Mirnyi 6-4, 6-4 F Federer def. Safin 6-1, 6-3, 6-4 2004 TMS Hamburg 1st Federer def. Gaudio 6-1, 5-7, 6-4 2nd Federer def. Lapentti 6-3, 6-3 3rd Federer def. Gonzalez 7-5, 6-1 QF Federer def. Moya 6-4, 6-3 SF Federer def. Hewitt 6-0, 6-4 F Federer def. Coria 4-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-3 Lets go for 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RogiFan88 05-05-2005, 02:46 AM Last year Rogi beat some of THE hottest guys on clay, incl the guy who was supposed to defend his title [and then win RG] so it wasn't as if Rogi got an "easy draw" or anything! I hope Rogi has been watching ROMA this week -- some interesting winners... some of whom are not your traditional clay guys either. ;) Rogi will have even more competition now on clay. At least I don't have to watch Hewitt next wk... it's boring enough having to watch AA, Pandy and Guille... HOPP, ROGI in HAMBURG!!! TenHound 05-05-2005, 03:48 AM I'm going to play the tape I just got of Roger's win over Coria last yr & hope that Coria does everyone a favor by grinding Thuggy, The Pig, (Is that name a good compromise between Ron's suggestion & mine - we do need a name for such hideousness) into the Roman clay. RogiFan, why do you think Coria is boring? I think he's Wily the Wabbit & wish he'd get himself a Paris Trophy before Thuggy the Pig ruins it w/his hairy pits. (I'm not posting non-Roger articles, but for anyone interested in following Rome, even w/dimished enthusiasm, Eleanor Preston is finally back writing for the Guardian. She did that wonderful pre-AO art. on Roger in which she dubbed him the "fledgling legend". She's knowledgeable, articulate & sensitive & writes well.) RogiFan88 05-05-2005, 01:29 PM I never said Coria was boring... I was talking about the TV coverage we get. Wily, yes, he is but Rabbit, no, that's not what a lot of people on MTF [or elsewhere] would call him. Guille s have gotten himself that Paris trophy last year btw. Fergie 05-05-2005, 01:34 PM Rogi confirmed that he will play, he is training since Tuesday Hopp Rogi, defend your title :D fightclubber 05-05-2005, 01:36 PM Rogi confirmed that he will play, he is training since Tuesday Hopp Rogi, defend your title :D Really? Did not read that, its on the news?? fightclubber 05-05-2005, 01:43 PM I never said Coria was boring... I was talking about the TV coverage we get. Wily, yes, he is but Rabbit, no, that's not what a lot of people on MTF [or elsewhere] would call him. Guille s have gotten himself that Paris trophy last year btw. Oh I really had the idea you do not like, do not support Guille. I was going to ask why, too.I do not know where I thought I read you said the man that was suppose to WIN French Open- And I was thinking about last night before I went to sleep and I though.. yes Guille was supossed to win R GArros, to my eyes.. He deserved that more than GATO. But Gato won... and i have to live with that....And on the other side Roger was supossed to win AO... But MArat won....Roger deserved that title but... Marat won... Anyway.. Seems I read bad cos this post of yours do not name a thing about The coria who was supossed to win RGarros... Or maybe I read somehting at the RF.com HEE HEEE Too late... too tired...;) Nocko 05-05-2005, 01:44 PM Thanks Fergie. Good news!!! :bounce: Hopp Rogi, Show who the champion is !! :bounce: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: RogiFan88 05-05-2005, 02:21 PM Oh I really had the idea you do not like, do not support Guille. I was going to ask why, too.I do not know where I thought I read you said the man that was suppose to WIN French Open- And I was thinking about last night before I went to sleep and I though.. yes Guille was supossed to win R GArros, to my eyes.. He deserved that more than GATO. But Gato won... and i have to live with that....And on the other side Roger was supossed to win AO... But MArat won....Roger deserved that title but... Marat won... Anyway.. Seems I read bad cos this post of yours do not name a thing about The coria who was supossed to win RGarros... Or maybe I read somehting at the RF.com HEE HEEE Too late... too tired...;) Silvy, I'm not a fan of Guille but I do recognize his success and talent and he deserves the titles he's won. Gato and Marat both deserved their slams. ;) SUKTUEN 05-05-2005, 03:38 PM GO ROGER GO ROGER GO GO GOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :bounce: :bounce: tHE TENNIS KING~!!!! :inlove: :inlove: Fergie 05-05-2005, 06:52 PM Really? Did not read that, its on the news?? La noticia completa: Federer vuelve al circuito en el Masters Series de Hamburgo Jueves 5 de Mayo de 2005 07:27 DPA HAMBURGO.- El tenista suizo Roger Federer, número uno del mundo, volverá al circuito para defender el título del Masters Series de Hamburgo, comunicaron hoy los organizadores del torneo. Federer ratificó su participación tras haber sido baja en Roma a causa de problemas en los talones de los pies. "Me he curado, estoy entrenando desde el martes y me siento en forma al cien por ciento", aseguró el deportista en una conversación telefónica con el director del certamen, Walter Knapper. Federer ha disputado desde 2000 el torneo de Hamburgo, que se adjudicó en 2002 y en 2004. El aņo pasado batió en un emocionante partido al argentino Guillermo Coria por 4-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-3. Quien sí será baja en Hamburgo es el australiano Lleyton Hewitt. El ex número uno regresará a la semana siguiente al circuito en la Copa Mundial por Equipos de Duesseldorf, puesta a punto ideal para Roland Garros, el segundo torneo del Gran Slam de la temporada. RogiFan88 05-05-2005, 07:22 PM yep, Rogi will be in Hamburg -- he's better now and has been training since Tue. and feels 100%! gracias, Fergie! ;) Dirk 05-05-2005, 07:25 PM YES THANKS ROGIFAN. I AM SO SO HAPPY. GO NINJA. HAS he been in hamburg since tuesday? GO NINJA KILL EVERYONE!!!!!!!! THIS IS YOUR EVENT!!!!!!!!! DRAIN THE PIGGY BLOOD!!!!!!!!!! :) TenHound 05-05-2005, 07:37 PM RogiFan, you still haven't answered why you're not a fan of Coria's. Of course, Roger comes first, but...occasionally there's another interesting player around...all too rarely, but it does happen. Dirk 05-05-2005, 07:56 PM TH I love Coria's game just not his character out there. PaulieM 05-05-2005, 08:00 PM so good to hear that rogi's feeling better! :yippee: fightclubber 05-05-2005, 08:01 PM YES THANKS ROGIFAN. I AM SO SO HAPPY. GO NINJA. HAS he been in hamburg since tuesday? GO NINJA KILL EVERYONE!!!!!!!! THIS IS YOUR EVENT!!!!!!!!! DRAIN THE PIGGY BLOOD!!!!!!!!!! :) :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: DRAIN THE PIGGY BLOOD:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: Stevens Point 05-05-2005, 08:05 PM so good to hear that rogi's feeling better! :yippee: yes, indeed! :) PaulieM 05-05-2005, 08:45 PM i hope roger does well in hamburg!! *begs* :unsure: RogiFan88 05-05-2005, 09:18 PM RogiFan, you still haven't answered why you're not a fan of Coria's. Of course, Roger comes first, but...occasionally there's another interesting player around...all too rarely, but it does happen. I'll let you guess. You obviously hate Nadal. We can't all like every tennis player who ever lived... Many people [on this board] absolutely HATE Rogi and wish evil upon him because he beats most players -- that's not HIS problem! :p lunahielo 05-05-2005, 09:28 PM Roger "Me he curado, estoy entrenando desde el martes y me siento en forma al cien por ciento", :) :) :) :) :) :) Yoda 05-05-2005, 09:50 PM Hopp Rogi....time for u to tune up your game for RG and kick some ass :cool: TenHound 05-06-2005, 12:25 AM RogiFan, I don't have clue one why you dislike Coria, but I don't hate Thuggy. I neither know him nor anything at all about him. I loathe what he does on the tennis court & am apprehensive for it's potential ramifications for the game at a time when they're trying so hard to strip tennis of it's beauty & stuff it into The Spectacle. Nothing illustrates this better than 2 photos in our local paper yesterday w/a bit article on Thuggy, the Pig. One snapshot (small photo) was of Thuggy screaming & looking down at his exposed flexed bicep, w/his hairy armpit sticking out on the near side. The other snap was of a ****. A porno type shot of Kim Clijsters - the most obscene photo I've ever seen. That's what the powers that be are trying to do to tennis & Thuggy is the first guy to cultivate it & feed off it - Power, Speed, Violence & No Women...just females reduced to Pornography. Thuggy, The Pig, & Shrieknova, fit the bill perfectly & will be handsomely rewarded. Neither Roger, nor Justine & Kim fit into that mold. There's a battle going on for the soul & future of tennis, and I have no doubt which side I'm on. On one side is all the beauty, artistry, the quiet but intense drama of beautifully played tennis, the other cheap thrills for the ignorant masses & great profits for the industry that can tap into that vein. Further living in America, King of SpectacleVille, now that they have Thuggy, the chances of F***espn showing Roger, unless it's a final are virtually Zero... lsy 05-06-2005, 04:52 AM :yippee: :yippee: I'm glad Rogi is back. Hamburg last year was one of the happiest win of Rogi among all for me. I still r'ber how we were all :scared: when saw the draw. Not many had high hopes of him winning...and then before you knew it, he was in the FINAL with Coria who was having a hot 30sth winning streaks on clay I think. But he came out so flat in the first set vs Coria (definitely not excuse here, those who had watched that match can confirm that ;) ), it was almost unbearable to watch. But again, he found the way into the match, that was just a very sweet victory. Maybe I should go back and read that thread how we went from the very low upon seeing the draw to the very high when he won :lol: Also how can I forget the match he played vs Hewitt, it was just superb. That game he played to break Hewitt and got the match (after being broken while serving for match...yes again) was simply outstanding. I also r'ber his "new fashion" on court last year coz of the extremerly cold weather :lol: Time flies...already a year :o I hope he can come back and had some good matches here in Hamburg, whether he gets to defend his title or not I'm not really putting too much hope (though I'm also used to Rogi surprising me ;) ), besides he won Hamburg last year and still only make it to 3rd round RG. Of course it's nice if he can defend all those points, but if he doesn't, the positive way to look at it is maybe he can have more time to be in Paris preparing for RG and might do him more good...see I already have all bases covered for his come back here just so I don't get too nervous ;) But I'll be super nervous when comes to RG, that's for sure :scared: TH...I think you're going a bit extreme here, yes Nadal is power, speed but I haven't seen any violence from him lol. Sending opponents off with 6-0 6-1; 6-1 6-2 type of scores isn't exactly violent to me, besides having big biceps and all doesn't necessarily = violence either...I knew guys of such who are just as gentle :angel: As far as I see, he wins his matches fair and square, like his game or not that's another issues alltogether. At least he's not just about bombing aces and sending opponents packing just coz of power and you have to give it to him for his mental toughness too at only 18. But yeah, having said all that, I don't prefer watching him play :o :shrug: Dirk 05-06-2005, 08:03 AM I hope Ninja gets a nice draw. :) Art&Soul 05-06-2005, 10:38 AM I'm so excited coz i'm going to see him on TV again playing his beautiful tennis. 3 weeks without him is so frustated to me, watching other players playing made me so bored :) So ROGI don't make me dissapointed, just play the best tennis of yours and kick all the asses in your way to the FINAL then hopefully i can change my sig again ;) HOPP HOPP HOPP ROGI, ALEZZ NINJAAAAAAAAA :angel: yanchr 05-06-2005, 11:40 AM Thanks Fergie to inform us of Roger's current conditions and Rogifan to translate it briefly :hug: I'm so happy to see Roger fully back (well, maybe have to see how he will do in Hamburg to say that :p ) :bounce: I miss Roger's beautiful tennis. This Roma has made me sick of watching anyone on clay. So bring me Roger please :( ;) I don't mind the draw btw. If he has to get a tough draw in RG, then I'd rather he have it here. Plus we all know what happened here last year with that draw. And I'd love to see him play Nadal or Coria or better both to gain some precious experience for RG ;) Win or lose, as long as he delivers in the coming bigger stage. fightclubber 05-06-2005, 01:32 PM me too, but of course I am an enlightened person and not at all superstitious, but please Silvy, take care to start the RG thread later on ;) :wavey: Oh I will dissapoit you and Rone But I think RogiFan Already started R Garros. So.. next time guys:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :yeah: :bigwave: :smooch: Stevens Point 05-06-2005, 10:27 PM :confused: :confused: Does anyone of you know if Roger is now training with Tony Roche?? I read an article about a few weeks ago which said he was coming to Roger in Basel after Key Biscayne for preparation for French Open, but since then I haven't heard a single word of him. What's up to him lately?? Or does its preparation begin after Hamburg?? Can anyone answer these questions?? Thanks. :) PaulieM 05-07-2005, 01:42 AM i miss roger :sad: i haven't seen him play since miami, and haven't seen many articles about him. come back healthy and soon please!! :sobbing: fightclubber 05-07-2005, 02:45 AM :confused: :confused: Does anyone of you know if Roger is now training with Tony Roche?? I read an article about a few weeks ago which said he was coming to Roger in Basel after Key Biscayne for preparation for French Open, but since then I haven't heard a single word of him. What's up to him lately?? Or does its preparation begin after Hamburg?? Can anyone answer these questions?? Thanks. :) HI! I THINK , JUST THINK, that Roche will start training with roger the week after Hamburg and tony also will be with him the other 2 weeks of RGarros. Its what i read somewhere sometime ago!;) yanchr 05-07-2005, 11:55 AM Draw out... Verdasco/Ferrer/Kuerten(?)/Coria...... Hey, what a good draw :rolleyes: Roger, I'm expecting a repetition of last Hamburg. Goooooooo :bounce: WyveN 05-07-2005, 12:18 PM Very difficult draw, in my opinion harder then last years. Nocko 05-07-2005, 12:26 PM 1R/Verdasco--sounds tricky :unsure: 2R/Ferrer(or Verdch) :scared: 3R/Kuerten(or Robredo)...Maybe OK QF/Coria or Moya( he meets Nando 1stR. :eek: )? SF/Not sure--- Safin? Agassi? or any Q(JFC , Gasquet ,...) :scratch: Wow, looks tough but good exercise for RG.. :banana: :banana: GOOD LUCK ROGI!!! :banana: :banana: :bounce: :bounce: Show your beautiful tennis and grab the title again ! :bounce: :bounce: yanchr 05-07-2005, 12:28 PM Very difficult draw, in my opinion harder then last years. Like he is really getting all the currently hot dirters in his way. Wtf...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: But if he can pull it all through like last year......Am I dreaming again :rolleyes: I just hope he has saved his luck of draw all in RG where it matters much more... lsy 05-07-2005, 12:52 PM :woohoo: Rogi's name is in the list...I'm relieved!!! Well...Let's see last/this year (possible) draw : Gaudio/Verdasco Lapentti/Ferrer Gonzalez/Guga Moya/Coria Hewitt/??? Coria/??? but I suppose it's a crime to not put down Nadal's name here :o oh...it's not that bad at all...Just few QF/SFinalist in Rome right now for 1st 2 rounds, an ex 3x FO champion who beat him in RG last year, ok maybe another one of the hottest player on clay now in QF...it's ok, no big deal, Rogi can handle that :lol: PIECE OF CAKE!!! :banana: :banana: .................................. yeah right...who's the idiot who make such draw year in and out??? :retard: rwn 05-07-2005, 12:55 PM Look at it from the bright side. If Roger wins this tournament (or at least get very far) we know he's ready for the French Open :) lsy 05-07-2005, 12:58 PM Look at it from the bright side. If Roger wins this tournament (or at least get very far) we know he's ready for the French Open :) That logic didn't work last year though :tape: But yeah, I'm actually positive. I think it's good he gets to play these players who're currently in good form, good preparations grounds for sure provided he MUST get through the 1st 2 rounds at least. yanchr 05-07-2005, 01:02 PM :woohoo: Rogi's name is in the list...I'm relieved!!! Luckily,...or you know what will happen to you :rolleyes: ;) BUT I really don't get the f***ing draw :mad: Fergie 05-07-2005, 01:06 PM Terrible draw :mad: Hopp Rogi, play your best tennis here! :yeah: RogiFan88 05-07-2005, 01:14 PM Rogi will have to play his best tennis cos he's never played Fer AND Fer's a lefty AND he's been hot lately. For Rogi's sake, I hope he watched Fer's match vs. Pandy. Not looking too good for the defending champ this year... ouahh!!! IF Rogi manages to win the first rd, then he may have to play another hot Spaniard, David Ferrer, who has just taken the first set off THE hottest Spaniard, Rafa. Good luck to our ROGI, he'll need it. NOT looking forward to Hamburg... RogiFan88 05-07-2005, 01:16 PM Rare for the Hamburg winner to win RG -- only Guga did it in 2000 [over the last 8 yrs]. RogiFan88 05-07-2005, 01:18 PM Don't know how well Moya will do w his recent shoulder probs... he may not make it out of first rd either. IF Rogi makes it to Guga/Robredo, then it s not be a prob for him to beat either guy -- actually Tommy doing better than Guga now. ytben 05-07-2005, 01:26 PM OMG, two years in a row to get a draw from hell???? :mad: C'mon Rogi, pull the rabbit outta the hat again just like last year! Although to be honest I actually prefer him not to win this tourney, just go deep so he will have more time to prepare for RG. lsy 05-07-2005, 01:33 PM oh wow...woohoo...Just great!!! Rogi's potential 2nd round player is now the very few of them who took a set off our king of clay Nadal :tape: :tape: RogiFan88 05-07-2005, 02:12 PM Rogi needs the matchplay... and we don't know how he will do this week after being off for 3 wks! and w his feet... poor Rogi. HOPP, ROGI!!! PaulieM 05-07-2005, 02:36 PM poor roger :( RogiFan88 05-07-2005, 02:46 PM I know, Paulie, it will be v tough for ROGI... and it's cold, wet and windy there too. PaulieM 05-07-2005, 03:36 PM i'm sad. i've missed him so much and he has to come back to this crap :mad: Skyward 05-07-2005, 03:48 PM I have to admit that I've never seen Verdasco play( thanks, ESPN http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/8.gif ). Is his game similar to Gonzalez? Fergie 05-07-2005, 03:50 PM I have to admit that I've never seen Verdasco play( thanks, ESPN http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/8.gif ). Is his game similar to Gonzalez? With a little less power but he plays more angles ;) Sjengster 05-07-2005, 05:29 PM Somehow I'm not surprised that he got another tough draw at Hamburg after last year (mind you, the year in which he failed to win it he drew Mirnyi and Sargsian in the first two rounds - is a bad draw a good sign for him?). Verdasco is certainly an awkward assignment as he won't give him much rhythm, I can see a similar battle to the one he had with Gaudio last year in the first round. Verda probably wasn't delighted himself at seeing the draw, but he has nothing to lose and no previous history with Federer to worry about. Roger did beat Gonzalez here last year and again on clay in Monte Carlo this year, so he can handle the big hitters on clay. This has to be looked at positively as a challenge for Federer to get him into his stride on clay, if he can get through the early rounds he will have great preparation for RG. I know there's the argument that winning here in the past has never done anything for him in Paris, but the year he lost early here (2003) he also produced absolutely nothing a week later, so on balance I think more match practice is better than less. One QF isn't enough as a warm-up for the big one, I reckon. I have to laugh at the fact that some commentators here are still picking Federer as their favourite for Paris, even now that there's a second straight final between Coria and Nadal. He won't be one of the top two contenders, hopefully that will take some pressure off and allow him to play better this time. lsy 05-07-2005, 06:01 PM I have to laugh at the fact that some commentators here are still picking Federer as their favourite for Paris, even now that there's a second straight final between Coria. He won't be one of the top two contenders, hopefully that will take some pressure off and allow him to play better this time. Why not? He's still one of the clay court specialists that Nadal hasn't beaten yet on clay :p But yes he certainly doesnt look like the top contenders at this moment...well "not yet" ;) I need to keep myself positive after such a brutal draw. Dana 05-07-2005, 06:11 PM Roger is also playing in the doubles... with Yves... Their first match is against Ferrer/Hrbaty. Good luck to Yves and Roger! :) lucashg 05-07-2005, 06:12 PM :eek: :mad: :scared: WTF? That's possibly one of the toughest draws I've ever seen for a #1 seed. I hope he pulls out performances like he did last year. If his feet are not a problem anymore, things should only get better for Roger. Maybe it's not that bad if he plays all these players because it's a great preparation for RG. Good luck, Roger! Allez/Hopp! lsy 05-07-2005, 06:39 PM Roger is also playing in the doubles... with Yves... Their first match is against Ferrer/Hrbaty. Good luck to Yves and Roger! :) really? Rogi hasn't played double for quite sometimes already! But why suddenly, does that have to do with DC in Sep or he just wants more match practice on clay? Ferrer again? :shrug: Whatever it is, tough route ahead...I'm sure he's all fire up to face all the challenges. Stevens Point 05-07-2005, 07:05 PM HI! I THINK , JUST THINK, that Roche will start training with roger the week after Hamburg and tony also will be with him the other 2 weeks of RGarros. Its what i read somewhere sometime ago!;) Hi Silvy! Muchos gracias for your comment. I hope he helps Roger for the quest of French Open! Stevens Point 05-07-2005, 07:09 PM Verdasco?? He defeated Wawrinka in the 2nd round of Rome, so Roger, it is a revenge time for your country man and your practice partner!!!! Let's go Ro-ger let's go!! :clap2: :clap2: (repeat this many times!) PaulieM 05-07-2005, 07:25 PM really? Rogi hasn't played double for quite sometimes already! But why suddenly, does that have to do with DC in Sep or he just wants more match practice on clay? Ferrer again? :shrug: Whatever it is, tough route ahead...I'm sure he's all fire up to face all the challenges. i also thought it was strange that he decided to play doubles. :confused: :shrug: Stevens Point 05-07-2005, 07:41 PM i also thought it was strange that he decided to play doubles. :confused: :shrug: Hope he doesn't get too tired for singles matches. Roddick and Safin entered doubles in Rome, too. Why do the singles specialists want to play doubles lately?? lunahielo 05-07-2005, 09:28 PM About the doubles? Roger knows what he's doing. (IMHO) Go for it, babe...win everything you can!! :yeah: Hopp fightclubber 05-07-2005, 09:33 PM OH Not happy with the draw. My computer monitor is not working, a person lent me an old one I see all grey and Im angry for the draw. I do not know if you had the chance to see the last tournaments. I followed Rome, lots of matches, and guys, NANDO ( VERDASCO) is playing very well. He did a battle to Coria, who is playing very well. And David Ferrer, I saw him playing since chile and he really started to improve a lot his game. Also he gave a hard battle to NADAl in MIAMI and today (ROME) Poor Rogi. I still have faith but Im a bit nervous, have to say. Not easy. What roger has and this 2 do not ( at least at my humble point of view) is that roger is starng mentally and Nando and a bit less david, get lost from times ..... So lets pray for a good match with Verdasco and Roger will find the rythm the next matches. I think he will play doubles to have more practise on clay. Doubles will help, to my point of view, to practice playing on the net... Lets see. I will go to the hamburg site now.. I just read your comments but need to see the draw for other players... So I only have to add. VAMOS GUILLE VAMOS TIME TO REVENGE, LETS WIN TOMORROW IN ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) TenHound 05-07-2005, 09:38 PM I'll just throw in the things no one has mentioned - though personally w/what happened at the German Open this wk. I think the tournament should be moved/cancelled, unless it's shown that the Qatari's not the German's who are responsible.(see below) Insofar as I can put that aside: Roger is playing doubles w/a Swiss - i.e. DC practice. That, taking care of his feet & preparing for Paris are probably his priorities. And when looking at the draw remember that this is a back-to-back Masters, so those who rested this wk. could be big factor next wk. So Gaudio could be in better shape than Coria who's in the final tomorrow. Hence, we can't tell anything from paper draw. Plus Ferrero will be blasting out of the Qualies w/a helluva lot to prove and pissed off! If he's in Roger's 1/2 or 1/4 that should be good contest. Back to events in Germany, for those who haven't heard. "The German Open has been rocked by a scandal over pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic comments, along with a photo of the Nazi leader Hermann Goering, in a program published by the elite club hosting the women's tennis tournament, German media reported Friday. The mass-market Bild newspaper reported that the brochure by the century-old LTTC Red White Berlin tennis club said the flight of Jewish tennis players from Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s only led to a brief drop in membership, and that it finally ushered in a "golden age" at the organization. "The number of members was reduced by half but in this way the former so-called Jews' club opened itself to new members," the anonymous author wrote on page 71 of the magazine. "This change did not lead to a break for the club or German top tennis. Instead, it led to a golden age." " (In picture, Goering was flanked by Nazi officers. Qatari Tennis Fed. put on tournament & art. says organizers responsible for the Program.) ?http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1575977,00.html Shy 05-07-2005, 09:42 PM He seem to play better when he has a though draw.Also, both times that he had won Hamburg, he didn't do well at RG at all . Daniel 05-07-2005, 09:43 PM Verdasco lost in QF , dont thinks he is too tired and could be a tough oponent to Roger . Tough draw for the best player in the world :fiery: dont like it at all :bigcry: Go Roger, do your best and enjoy yourself :banana: :dance: :D SUKTUEN 05-08-2005, 04:28 AM roger play single and doulbe too ???? Daniel 05-08-2005, 05:01 AM yes he does :) TenHound 05-08-2005, 06:14 AM Hey, Great News - Roger is a Primo Tennis Player. W/his feet, he beats Verdasco in his sleep. He's gone one week and already we sound like he's Safin or Cream Puff Bear! Unfortunately, the first-hand report I just got from Rome says Thuggy is very vulnerable to the drop shot & Roger, at last report from Ron, hasn't developed a forehand one, that he calls the Spanish Forehand...so Thuggy's a problemo to be solved. He lost to Gasquet 'cuz he was burned out & hurting...enough was enough was enough...Now if the feet gods are smiling... Can somebody come up w/a great name for the Feet God?? Daniel 05-08-2005, 06:35 AM I cant find any Feet God? :confused: WyveN 05-08-2005, 06:55 AM Hope he doesn't get too tired for singles matches. Roddick and Safin entered doubles in Rome, too. Why do the singles specialists want to play doubles lately?? Probably want to get used to the clay, I mean Roger has hardly spent any time on clay this year and even doubles will help him get to the movement/conditions of a clay court. WyveN 05-08-2005, 07:03 AM And the best thing about him playing doubles is that his feet are obviously not bothering him at all or no way would he double up singles/doubles. lucashg 05-08-2005, 07:10 AM I don't know what's Feet God's name, but it's certainly not Nike Footwear. It's great to see that he's playing doubles. It's been a while. It'll probably use some extra energy he could be saving for his singles tournament, but it's important that he gets to practice with Yves before the DC tie in a real tournament and plus, he gets to practice more on his volleys which is afterall a valid improvement for Wimbledon and it also adds some extra match-toughness for him on clay. I agree that the draw is frightening but I honestly think, given he's 100% fit and healthy, he can get through these first rounds. Other, I really don't care if his winning Hamburg never did anything to him in Roland Garros, as I see it he enters every tournament with the intention to win it, so if he does I can only see it as good sign as it's afterall one of the most clay-court events of the world. So good luck Rogi, defend your title! lucashg 05-08-2005, 07:12 AM And the best thing about him playing doubles is that his feet are obviously not bothering him at all or no way would he double up singles/doubles. It's really the most important thing about it. Well, at least I totally expect him to be honest with himself and not playing injured or that much even with "blisters". He's got a whole career ahead of him. Daniel 05-08-2005, 08:17 AM Good luck!!!! :D :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: playhard 05-08-2005, 08:27 AM hi, do you have video about federer's matches. Pls share them to ppl. Thanks Daniel 05-08-2005, 08:40 AM i think in some thread in this forums u can find some videos, but i am not the expert about it. :) babsi 05-08-2005, 08:55 AM Itīs great,that Roger plays doubles,too - letīs hope they show some of this matches. Iīve never really had the oppertunity to see him play doubles :) This means his feet are ok - couldnīt be otherwise -thank god! Canīt wait for the action to start! _____________________________________ Thereīs nothing wrong with me this is how Iīm supposed to be in the land of make believe that donīt believe in me (Billie Joe Armstrong) Stevens Point 05-08-2005, 09:30 AM Feet god?? Warriorroger??? :) :confused: Stevens Point 05-08-2005, 09:32 AM Itīs great,that Roger plays doubles,too - letīs hope they show some of this matches. Iīve never really had the oppertunity to see him play doubles :) This means his feet are ok - couldnīt be otherwise -thank god! Canīt wait for the action to start! I should have asked you here in this thread. Do you know if any German TV channel is showing the matches live?? Certainly not Eurosport. RogiNie 05-08-2005, 10:30 AM Good luck Roger, although this isn't the easiest draw ( and I'm staying very postive :p) :bounce: avocadoe 05-08-2005, 11:29 AM Good luck Roger!!!!!!! So glad to see you in your place at the top of the draw :) lunahielo 05-08-2005, 12:06 PM Originally posted by Stevens Point Feet god?? I have looked this up (I teach this stuff--a course in mythology) and there is no known god or goddess of feet in any mythology~~ But~~~~~~~ There is a Muse of the Dance (movement of the feet)~~so perhaps she will do! :) Terpsichore the "Whirler" is the muse of dancing We know Rogi whirls and dances all over the court~~~so~~ :) (Nike is the Greek goddess of victory..and is depicted with wings, and sometimes winged feet) babsi 05-08-2005, 04:15 PM Hi,Stevens point Iīm sorry to say,that I canīt find anything,on German TV web site,that I scand - nothing, tennis doesnīt excist - itīs frustrating.I was so sure,that I could see Roger play at last :( :( None the less,I will be on the lookout though out the week - if I detect anything I will let you know,of course! Canīt say how much I hate those guys at EUROSPORT - they shouldnīt typ there stupid network in capitle letters -itīs beyound the underground really - but I think I covered,that before. _____________________________________ Pressure cooker pick my brain and tell me Iīm insane. Iīm so fucking happy i could cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Billie Joe Armstrong) RogiFan88 05-08-2005, 04:28 PM :) Welcome back, ROGI! May 7 , 2005 Federer, Haas Take to the Water in Hamburg! Getty Images INDESIT ATP 2005 Race leader Roger Federer and German star Tommy Haas marked the start of the Masters Series Hamburg tournament in style on Saturday, playing on a special 'floating' tennis court on the River Elbe. The players traded their usual fluid ground strokes, except this time on a special court installed on a pontoon carried along by a push-barge. The activity coincided with the 816th birthday of the Hamburg harbour. The 30 meter-long pontoon was paraded in front of hordes of spectators on the banks of the River Elbe as the players braved the wind and the waves to put on a startling 20-minute exhibition in front of an estimated 15,000 spectators. The players, who received widespread applause for their efforts in unfavorable conditions, hit tennis balls to the intrigued crowd before hopping onto a second boat to tend to numerous media commitments prior to the start of main draw action in Hamburg. Federer: "It was a lot of fun and very enjoyable to play with Tommy. You could feel the waves, the court was definitely moving. It was windy, a nice fresh breeze and the surface was definitely a lot quicker than clay. We got used to it though and got some good rallies going in the end. They said 10 to 15,000 people watching from the harbour. That was fantastic." "It's the birthday of the harbour and it's something very special for the people here in Hamburg and it's good to try and promote the tournament. I'm feeling good and am the defending champion here here so I have high hopes to do it again. The draw is not the easiest one but I've been feeling good in practice and my coach Tony Roche is here this week as well. It's not every week that he is with me so I hope I can make a good effort here. I'm looking forward to the event." Haas: "Overall it was an unbelievable experience. It's the first time I've done something like that. I hope it's not the last as it was a lot of fun. It was very enjoyable and who knows, maybe it will be good preparation for the tournament. "It took a little bit of adjustment at the beginning. We tested each other's games and towards the end had some good rallies and started to feel pretty comfortable out there." http://www.atptennis.com/en/newsandscores/news/2005/federer_haas_barge.asp http://www.atptennis.com/shared/photos/180x250/fed_barge2.jpg Isn't Rogi a cutie? :angel: HOPP, ROGI!!! RogiFan88 05-08-2005, 04:28 PM Center Matches Start At: 11:00 AM Mario ANCIC (CRO) vs Florian MAYER (GER) followed by Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) vs Nicolas KIEFER (GER) followed by Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) followed by Nicolas MASSU (CHI) vs Andy RODDICK (USA) NOT BEFORE 19:30 Tim HENMAN (GBR) vs Lars BURGSMULLER (GER) M1 Matches Start At: 11:00 AM Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR) vs Philipp PETZSCHNER (GER) followed by Joachim JOHANSSON (SWE) vs Sebastien GROSJEAN (FRA) followed by Andrei PAVEL (ROM) vs Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA) followed by Alexander WASKE (GER) vs Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) M2 Matches Start At: 11:00 AM Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG) vs Thomas JOHANSSON (SWE) followed by Richard GASQUET (FRA) vs Ivo KARLOVIC (CRO) followed by Ivan LJUBICIC (CRO) vs Luis HORNA (PER) followed by Jurgen MELZER (AUT) vs Juan Carlos FERRERO (ESP) M3 Matches Start At: 12:30 PM Gaston ETLIS (ARG)/Martin RODRIGUEZ (ARG) vs Jonathan ERLICH (ISR)/Andy RAM (ISR) followed by Mariano HOOD (ARG)/Julian KNOWLE (AUT) vs Cyril SUK (CZE)/Pavel VIZNER (CZE) M4 Matches Start At: 11:00 AM followed by Karol BECK (SVK) vs Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) followed by Santiago VENTURA (ESP) vs Christophe ROCHUS (BEL) followed by Radek STEPANEK (CZE) vs Cyril SAULNIER (FRA) SUKTUEN 05-08-2005, 04:31 PM Roger play in 9:00 PM in HK!!! Yeah~~~!!! lsy 05-08-2005, 04:44 PM :) I'm feeling good and am the defending champion here here so I have high hopes to do it again. The draw is not the easiest one but I've been feeling good in practice and my coach Tony Roche is here this week as well. It's not every week that he is with me so I hope I can make a good effort here. I'm looking forward to the event." HOPP, ROGI!!! Thank you Rogifan!!! I'm happy to hear that Roche is with Rogi in Hamburg :yippee: :yippee: Yes Rogi, please do well here and try your best to defend your title. We're all behind you and really can't wait to see you on tv! of course he's a cutie Rogifan! SUKTUEN 05-08-2005, 04:47 PM He play on the water today~~ yanchr 05-08-2005, 04:51 PM Thanks so much Rogifan :hug: I'm so happy hearing what Rogi said. I'm feeling much better now. Go Roger! :bounce: SUKTUEN 05-08-2005, 04:54 PM Here is very cold I think~~ Take care Roger~!!! mitalidas 05-08-2005, 07:19 PM Nadal 10 points of Rogi in the RACE as of tomorrow morning!!!! this is pissing me off COME ON ROGER WIN HAMBURG!!!! TenHound 05-08-2005, 07:20 PM Well, 5+ hr. final today, has certainly weakened the competition. Thuggy won set 5 by 1 pt., the match by 2!! Roger's body should be his toughest adversary now. Trying to win Paris makes far less sense now than it did in Jan, as I don't see how a few 4-5 hr. matches will have him peaking @Wimby. Fight for Hamburg, have fun in Paris, & Triumph @Wimby. Dirk 05-08-2005, 08:00 PM Give Roger a tough draw here and an easy one at RG. Just like they did in 03. :) I have faith Roger will beat Verdasco that I am going to bet my entire Vcash on my Ninja. :) Skyward 05-08-2005, 09:55 PM Nadal 10 points of Rogi in the RACE as of tomorrow morning!!!! this is pissing me off COME ON ROGER WIN HAMBURG!!!! Nobody will remember who had the most points in the middle of May. The main goal is to win slams. I hope Roger paces himself accordingly. Stevens Point 05-08-2005, 10:16 PM OK, we have Roger match for the first time in 3 weeks. Let us hope this will be the nice one. :) Go King!!! Stevens Point 05-08-2005, 10:19 PM Hi,Stevens point Iīm sorry to say,that I canīt find anything,on German TV web site,that I scand - nothing, tennis doesnīt excist - itīs frustrating.I was so sure,that I could see Roger play at last :( :( None the less,I will be on the lookout though out the week - if I detect anything I will let you know,of course! Canīt say how much I hate those guys at EUROSPORT - they shouldnīt typ there stupid network in capitle letters -itīs beyound the underground really - but I think I covered,that before. No coverage!!? :eek: Schade... Anyway, thanks for looking up. :) lunahielo 05-08-2005, 10:41 PM Originally posted by Dirk I have faith Roger will beat Verdasco that I am going to bet my entire Vcash on my Ninja Yes! That's the spirit!! :yippee: Boy, it's gonna be great seeing him..back on court again. I am setting my alarm for *early*..hope to see him before I go to work~~if not, then the tape can take over. This is what makes the $$ for the Tennis Channel worth it. Go Ninja! Show 'em who's still the boss! fightclubber 05-08-2005, 11:11 PM Center Matches Start At: 11:00 AM Mario ANCIC (CRO) vs Florian MAYER (GER) followed by Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) vs Nicolas KIEFER (GER) followed by Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) followed by Nicolas MASSU (CHI) vs Andy RODDICK (USA) NOT BEFORE 19:30 Tim HENMAN (GBR) vs Lars BURGSMULLER (GER) M1 Matches Start At: 11:00 AM Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR) vs Philipp PETZSCHNER (GER) followed by Joachim JOHANSSON (SWE) vs Sebastien GROSJEAN (FRA) followed by Andrei PAVEL (ROM) vs Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA) followed by Alexander WASKE (GER) vs Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) M2 Matches Start At: 11:00 AM Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG) vs Thomas JOHANSSON (SWE) followed by Richard GASQUET (FRA) vs Ivo KARLOVIC (CRO) followed by Ivan LJUBICIC (CRO) vs Luis HORNA (PER) followed by Jurgen MELZER (AUT) vs Juan Carlos FERRERO (ESP) M3 Matches Start At: 12:30 PM Gaston ETLIS (ARG)/Martin RODRIGUEZ (ARG) vs Jonathan ERLICH (ISR)/Andy RAM (ISR) followed by Mariano HOOD (ARG)/Julian KNOWLE (AUT) vs Cyril SUK (CZE)/Pavel VIZNER (CZE) M4 Matches Start At: 11:00 AM followed by Karol BECK (SVK) vs Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) followed by Santiago VENTURA (ESP) vs Christophe ROCHUS (BEL) followed by Radek STEPANEK (CZE) vs Cyril SAULNIER (FRA) Where did you find this? i cannot find it in hamburg site and I need to see it for the vcr.. do you know what time is theis ? Germany? Can you help? silvy RogiFan88 05-08-2005, 11:19 PM silvy, 11.00 in Germany is 5.00am in NYC... are you 1 or 2 hrs ahead of NYC?? fightclubber 05-09-2005, 12:20 AM silvy, 11.00 in Germany is 5.00am in NYC... are you 1 or 2 hrs ahead of NYC?? 6 am will start here. Wish I could have an idea if they will show roger and not guga! And what time... I think each match can last 1 hjhour or 1 and half,,, anyway ill be working By the way I sent you a PM after one you sent me, did you get it? if not I see if I still have it Let me know Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:13 AM 6 am will start here. Wish I could have an idea if they will show roger and not guga! And what time Espn will show the matchs in center court and Espn+ the matchs in Court1 I think that they will show Rogi for Espn at 10 am in Argentina :) Hopp Rogi!!! :bigclap: fightclubber 05-09-2005, 01:38 AM Espn will show the matchs in center court and Espn+ the matchs in Court1 I think that they will show Rogi for Espn at 10 am in Argentina :) Hopp Rogi!!! :bigclap: Gracias Lau Voy a ver a las 6 si dicen algo y voy a salir al limite--creo que le calculo a 1 partido 1 hora y al otro una hora y media.. con suerte roger a eso de las 8 menos cuarto o a la 9 va a empezar. Entonces ESPN- Gracias RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 01:55 AM 6 am will start here. Wish I could have an idea if they will show roger and not guga! And what time... I think each match can last 1 hjhour or 1 and half,,, anyway ill be working By the way I sent you a PM after one you sent me, did you get it? if not I see if I still have it Let me know si, silvy! gracias! Espero que podras ver el partido de Rogi manana!!! HOPP, ROGI!!!!! ;) TenHound 05-09-2005, 02:22 AM Where I live, there's no tennis on tv at all...Grrrrrrrr....but very happy that Roger is playing again. I'm w/Dirk on the Verdasco match...piece of cake, if Roger's feet are fine. In fact, I think the only guy he most likely can't beat on Hamburg clay is Thuggy, so I'd bet on him winning again, as his feet allow - at least if he confined himself to playing singles. Playing both to get DC practice - Please, Roger, rest & take care of yourself... Isn't it amazing how things can turn upside down so quickly. Roger wins 2 Masters back to back a few weeks ago, and now all the talk in of Thuggy?? But the press by definition wants something new. Roger was last years story, now... I trust that will really bring out the Fighter in him...He wants to be Numero Uno - now it's not a given even for this year. PaulieM 05-09-2005, 03:16 AM i hope the fact that he's getting slightly less attention, as sad as it is for me who loves reading all about him, will make things a little easier for him, take off some of the pressure and just let him do his thing. pissed there's no tennis on tv here. :( Seleshfan 05-09-2005, 06:41 AM Can somebody come up w/a great name for the Feet God?? Pedasus? Podseidon? Podrion? Jupeder? Pedathustra? Well considering Roger has fast feet, maybe Hermes or Mercury, as these were speedy gods. Stevens Point 05-09-2005, 08:12 AM Weather doesn't look good throughout the week... We also need the sun to show up. babsi 05-09-2005, 09:38 AM So today is the day - hopefully the weather gets a bit better,ok a bit is not enough,say alot.Not only does it rain itīs cold,too I might not be able to see Roger play - that he plays at all, is great,so Iīm happy :) ________________________________________ Thereīs nothing wrong with me this is how Iīm supposed to be in the land of make believe that donīt believe in me (Billie Joe Armstrong) babsi 05-09-2005, 09:42 AM Btw. does anyone else have problems to get on the oficial Hamburg web site? My comp works fine, otherwise - at least I would like to follow the score :( Stevens Point 05-09-2005, 10:09 AM Btw. does anyone else have problems to get on the oficial Hamburg web site? My comp works fine, otherwise - at least I would like to follow the score :( It was always difficult to get to the official site on the whole morning. I was lucky to reach there once this morning and since then I keep this live score window. If you still have trouble getting there, you can at least follow the live scores at Eurosport website (the scoring is a bit slower than the actual the official site, though). http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/e7341/live_lng0_spo57_evt7341.shtml Dirk 05-09-2005, 10:44 AM Where I live, there's no tennis on tv at all...Grrrrrrrr....but very happy that Roger is playing again. I'm w/Dirk on the Verdasco match...piece of cake, if Roger's feet are fine. In fact, I think the only guy he most likely can't beat on Hamburg clay is Thuggy, so I'd bet on him winning again, as his feet allow - at least if he confined himself to playing singles. Playing both to get DC practice - Please, Roger, rest & take care of yourself... Isn't it amazing how things can turn upside down so quickly. Roger wins 2 Masters back to back a few weeks ago, and now all the talk in of Thuggy?? But the press by definition wants something new. Roger was last years story, now... I trust that will really bring out the Fighter in him...He wants to be Numero Uno - now it's not a given even for this year. TENHOUND, Roger would have to lose early in both Wimbly and USO for him to lose number one and then at RG again too. I don't see either of those things happening. Nadal will not do shit for the rest of the year on the faster courts. Miami was a great run but it was a slower hardcourt. Also can we please stop assuming that RG automatically goes to Nadal just because he is in such hot form and the press wants the fairy tale to come true? :rolleyes: avocadoe 05-09-2005, 11:51 AM I can't get into the site either this morning, I think on day #1 they are busy getting stuff loaded so you have to be lucky. I will keep trying and hope by the time Roger is ON, I will be, too...Can't wait to have our first match victory!!! avocadoe 05-09-2005, 11:53 AM It was always difficult to get to the official site on the whole morning. I was lucky to reach there once this morning and since then I keep this live score window. If you still have trouble getting there, you can at least follow the live scores at Eurosport website (the scoring is a bit slower than the actual the official site, though). http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/e7341/live_lng0_spo57_evt7341.shtml Stevens Point, could you try to link us in off your scoreboard connection? fightclubber 05-09-2005, 12:17 PM check here and save this link, is the live score from hamburg http://62.201.170.1/livescoring/scoreboard/scoreboard.php?court=cc avocadoe 05-09-2005, 12:37 PM check here and save this link, is the live score from hamburg http://62.201.170.1/livescoring/scoreboard/scoreboard.php?court=cc thank you soooooooo much, got it!!!! :) :) :) :wavey: babsi 05-09-2005, 12:38 PM Thank you,Stevens Piont and silvy - both links work! Great,now lets hope Roger can win this quickly!!!!!!! ________________________________________ Thereīs nothing wrong with me this is how Iīm supposed to be in the land of make believe that donīt believe in me (Billie Joe Armstrong) avocadoe 05-09-2005, 12:44 PM anyone watching the match on the telly? SUKTUEN 05-09-2005, 12:55 PM Go Roger!!! mitalidas 05-09-2005, 12:57 PM Come on Roger, we're all behind you!!!! COME ON ROGER! Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:01 PM Rogi leads 5-4 ... I hate Espn, they are showing SportCenter here :mad: mitalidas 05-09-2005, 01:02 PM awesome, thanks Fergie (and I am sick of opening the papers and reading all about Thuggy and how he is going to overtake Roger. NO WAY) lsy 05-09-2005, 01:03 PM :bounce: :bounce: COME ON ROGI!!! Stupid coverage only starts one hour later :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wavey: all! mitalidas 05-09-2005, 01:07 PM HE TOOK THE FIRST SET!!!! WOOHOO!!!! Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:08 PM 6-4 Rogi with a break in the last game :D Hopp Rogi!!! :bigclap: avocadoe 05-09-2005, 01:11 PM Roger remembers how to do it :) babsi 05-09-2005, 01:12 PM Yes!!!!!!!!! There was some work involved - one would guess -because, not watching! Hopp Roger - please no Second Set Syndrom! ________________________________________ Thereīs nothing wrong with me this is how Iīm supposed to be in the land of make believe that donīt believe in me (Billie Joe Armstrong) Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:13 PM Nos Espn is showing some Rogi games :worship: Rogi is playing with the same Agassi's shirt and Tonny Roche is there :) mitalidas 05-09-2005, 01:13 PM where are you Fergie? ESPN in the US seems to be showing all the crap Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:16 PM In Chile ... I'm watching Espn+ (a local Espn) Rogi had 3 break points but couldn't get the break ... 1-1 in the second set lsy 05-09-2005, 01:22 PM :bounce: :bounce: Yes Rogi!!! Please keep it up! Keep going! Damn Damn Damn starsports... Art&Soul 05-09-2005, 01:27 PM Yeah Damn Star sport grrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuu, Kick his ass now ROGI and kick SS too Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:32 PM Rogi leads 4-3 and Verdasco will serve A break here would be perfect Rogi! :yeah: Art&Soul 05-09-2005, 01:34 PM Rogi leads 4-3 and Verdasco will serve A break here would be perfect Rogi! :yeah: I hope it too, HOPP ROGI, BREAK NOWWWWWWWWWW :) lsy 05-09-2005, 01:35 PM yes Rogi! Please break now! This match is so different from other clay matches I'd followed, everybody game goes by so fast... I die to catch Rogi on tv, but pls just finish it off in straights...I can watch him other day Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:36 PM Yes!!! Rogi serve for the match 5-3 :yeah: Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:39 PM Rogi won 6-4 6-3 ... Well done :worship: Art&Soul 05-09-2005, 01:41 PM YAY an easy one right?, WELL DONE ROGI, keep your level for the next rounds :) lsy 05-09-2005, 01:41 PM YES!!! Well done Rogi!!! :banana: :banana: Fergie 05-09-2005, 01:42 PM 25 winners and only 8 u.e ... Great numbers for Rogi :yeah: avocadoe 05-09-2005, 01:42 PM bravo Roger, you make my day :) RogiNie 05-09-2005, 01:43 PM Well done Roger!! :D :bounce: :yeah: babsi 05-09-2005, 01:44 PM YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice doing,Roger - two sets - no complains! Now - how did he play? - just wondering! _________________________________________ Thereīs nothing wrong with me this is how Iīm supposed to be in the land of make believe that donīt believe in me (Billie Joe Armstrong) Art&Soul 05-09-2005, 01:44 PM Sh**t that i can't see him playing but i can wait to the next round, Starsport you must show his matches, if not i WILL............ lsy 05-09-2005, 01:46 PM 25 winners and only 8 u.e ... Great numbers for Rogi :yeah: :D :D :D Thanks! I'm really happy! Please keep it up Rogi! Skyward 05-09-2005, 01:47 PM Great job Roger! Keep it up! http://bestsmileys.com/cheering/2.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/cheering/2.gif onm684 05-09-2005, 01:48 PM Well done Rogi :banana::banana: :yeah: KEEP IT UP!!:woohoo: Sophie1030 05-09-2005, 01:49 PM Well done! Roger! Come on! :bounce: lsy 05-09-2005, 01:54 PM Great job Roger! Keep it up! http://bestsmileys.com/cheering/2.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/cheering/2.gif :lol: you're like the smiley king/queen these days! rwn 05-09-2005, 01:58 PM Great great job, Roger!!! Please win this title now!! avocadoe 05-09-2005, 01:59 PM woohoo Guga's playing well. Didn't he hire a coach? who? avocadoe 05-09-2005, 02:00 PM sorry, wrong thread :) onm684 05-09-2005, 02:08 PM Great job Roger! Keep it up! http://bestsmileys.com/cheering/2.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/cheering/2.gif I love it. very cute.:D Skyward, keep it up, too. Skyward 05-09-2005, 02:20 PM :lol: you're like the smiley king/queen these days! I'm taking care of my 10 year old niece at the moment. She's obsessed with smileys. Her collection is huge. :eek: Isy, how was the match? Did Fernando lose his brain? Is Roger in his serial killer mood? lsy 05-09-2005, 02:27 PM I'm taking care of my 10 year old niece at the moment. She's obsessed with smileys. Her collection is huge. :eek: Isy, how was the match? Did Fernando lose his brain? Is Roger in his serial killer mood? :lol: I have one 6 yo and 5 yo nieces and the elder one is currently obsessed with sending phone text messaged with pictures to me all day long :tape: I wish I have answer for you here, our coverage just started and it's Andy/Massu on my screen now :o :tape: From the stats, it seems like Rogi simply played a very clean match? No idea really. Skyward 05-09-2005, 02:41 PM Someone posted on the MTF " Verdasco didnīt have a clue about how to play against him, he played without brain once more." But what else to expect from a person with Nadal's avatar. http://wemissjerry.org/smiles/blah.gif Sjengster 05-09-2005, 02:47 PM That's Deivid, he knows his stuff and he's seen a lot more of Verdasco than most others on this board so he was expecting him to give Roger a tough time, hence the disappointment. But really, he's underselling Federer a little here - this was his first time playing Verdasco, but the reverse is equally true, and can you think of many 20/21 year old players who have beaten the world no. 1 on their very first attempt? This was probably a case of tactical inexperience rather than simply not showing up mentally, and from the sounds of it Roger played a solid match without too many problems with the conditions considering this is his first clay event in over three weeks. Oh look, he managed to get past the first round, if undomiele is to be believed then I'm sticking pins in my voodoo doll of her and jumping up and down while pointing and laughing at the computer screen, full of vindictive glee at having proved her wrong. Nope, I'm happy he won and there are plenty more challenges to come. lsy 05-09-2005, 02:53 PM Oh look, he managed to get past the first round, if undomiele is to be believed then I'm sticking pins in my voodoo doll of her and jumping up and down while pointing and laughing at the computer screen, full of vindictive glee at having proved her wrong. Nope, I'm happy he won and there are plenty more challenges to come. :haha: :haha: Despite her strong belief of the silliness of Rogi fans, I think most of us here know RG is a tough one for Rogi. Sjengster, if you have watched the match, you should post a report in Ron's match report thread. Looking at the way you write, you should have no problem with that at all ;) RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 02:53 PM any idea how long Rogi's match was? I need to know for TV purposes... if it was about 1-1/2 hrs, then perfect, we might get to see this match! HOPP, ROGI! Keep going... don't stop!! Rogi and Yves must play their dbles tomorrow vs. Ferrer/Hrbaty -- good chance to test out their level, esp vs. Ferrer! Skyward 05-09-2005, 02:53 PM Thanks Sjengster. Sounds fair. yanchr 05-09-2005, 02:53 PM Someone posted on the MTF " Verdasco didnīt have a clue about how to play against him, he played without brain once more." But what else to expect from a person with Nadal's avatar. http://wemissjerry.org/smiles/blah.gif Somehow I found it so funny that he was making his comments on the score thread sounding so sour while having to put down the facts that Rogi was winning and easily :lol: Well done Roger :banana: But just the 1st step. I will save my energy and excitement for the final :bounce: lsy 05-09-2005, 02:55 PM any idea how long Rogi's match was? I need to know for TV purposes... if it was about 1-1/2 hrs, then perfect, we might get to see this match! HOPP, ROGI! Keep going... don't stop!! Rogi and Yves must play their dbles tomorrow vs. Ferrer/Hrbaty -- good chance to test out their level, esp vs. Ferrer! I think it's about 1 hr 10 mins...that's what I heard. Sjengster 05-09-2005, 02:56 PM Nope, I didn't get to see it as I was (and still am) at uni for a revision class... so I am guessing a little about what happened whereas Deivid saw it, but I'd like to think that Federer can win first round matches 4 and 3 without having to depend on his opponent's brain not showing up. RF, it was quite a short match, only a little over an hour, so it might well get shown. I'm going to get back home tonight just in time to see Henman v Burgsmuller, yay! RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 02:57 PM You realize that Ferrer, if he wins his R1 match, will be much more difficult to beat -- he is more of a classic claycourter who doesn't give up but Rogi might be able to frustrate him. ;) Sjengster 05-09-2005, 02:59 PM Yes, it's a completely different match, and the Frog has been in good consistent form where Verdasco only started showing it last year. In these conditions it'll be very tough to get the ball past him as he scraps and defends so well, but at least Roger won't have to worry about the unpredictable power element that Verdasco brought to the table today. It's Guga and the convincing nature of his scoreline today that worries me... RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 03:00 PM thanks, Sjengst [good luck on the exams!] and Isy! Sjengster 05-09-2005, 03:01 PM Thanks RF, I have a week off now and then a double whammy on Monday and Wednesday next week... and then it's all over, thankfully. RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 03:02 PM Yes, it's a completely different match, and the Frog has been in good consistent form where Verdasco only started showing it last year. In these conditions it'll be very tough to get the ball past him as he scraps and defends so well, but at least Roger won't have to worry about the unpredictable power element that Verdasco brought to the table today. It's Guga and the convincing nature of his scoreline today that worries me... Really? How's Robredo doing vs. Waske? If HE wins, can HE beat Guga, cos if he can and Rogi beats Ferrer, that w be a preferable matchup for Rogi. ;) I do not like to prognosticate... one match at a time. We still need to really see how Rogi is playing. lsy 05-09-2005, 03:09 PM Frog??? Why??? :haha: Massu got the first set...Hamburg not only have the stupid draw but stupid schedule too...it should be Rogi I'm watching now :( Nocko 05-09-2005, 03:14 PM I came back home 15min. ago and check ATP site. HAPPY!!!!! :woohoo: :bigclap: :bigclap: Well done Roger, keep going!! :bounce: :bounce: Stevens Point 05-09-2005, 03:17 PM Welcome back, Roger!!! WyveN 05-09-2005, 03:51 PM Roger played a solid match and while his groundstrokes were a bit rusty at times it was a very good comeback match and he did several things extremely well such as serving and volleys. Verdasco was solid without ever playing the spectacular tennis that has him hitting winner after winner. I disagree that he played a bad match although he did seem a bit resigned to the fact that he would lose almost from the first game. Match never reached the level expected and Roger did little more then enough to win but I think Roger would be pleased with his form and his next match will be a far better indication as to how he will go this week. fightclubber 05-09-2005, 04:04 PM so fergie, did they showed only 2nd set or they cut it when Guga started? WELL DONE ROGER:worship: Doris Loeffel 05-09-2005, 04:12 PM Well done Roger Good luck in round 2!! RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 04:12 PM I'm SO MAD they're showing RODDICK-MASSU... vamos, Nico! babsi 05-09-2005, 04:41 PM Thanks,Sjengster and WyveN How bad is it to have this big a tournament in your own country and you are not able to watch it - if they canīt sell the tv rights,it is a smal wonder,that they have trouble to hold the event in Hamburg - next thing you know they sell it,like the womens "German Open"! Itīs so not fair! _______________________________________ The time has come and itīs going nowhere Nobody ever said,that life is fair now (Billie Joe Armstrong) Yasmine 05-09-2005, 05:06 PM :woohoo: youhou Roger!!! :bounce: mitalidas 05-09-2005, 05:14 PM Not that we needed Nadal to drop off for Roger to remain Race leader, but now it is a guarantee as of next week, since NADAL IS OUT OF HAMBURG Spaniard Rafael Nadal, winner of his last three ATP events, has pulled out of the Hamburg Masters because of a blister to his raquet-hand. "I'm not 100 percent and I only risk worsening the injury," said the 18-year-old. Meanwhile, top seed Roger Federer claimed a straight-sets win to reach the second round of the competition. The world number one, who missed last week's Rome Masters with a foot injury, beat Spain's Fernando Verdasco 6-4 6-3. Federer was relieved after overcoming the first hurdle. "I was quite worried going into this match to be honest," said Federer. "I know what a good player he is and what potential he has for the future. "He's also a lefty which is dangerous because it can be difficult for my backhand, especially on clay. "But I coped well with it which is a bonus for me. After three weeks without a match, this was difficult for me." Elsewhere, Swedish 11th seed Joachim Johansson was beaten 6-1 6-4 by Sebastien Grosjean. Nocko 05-09-2005, 05:23 PM Thanks Mitalidas. :worship: RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 05:26 PM 15:39 MATCH POINT for FEDERER... serving at 40-30... first delivery long, second short and the pair rally... backhand to backhand before Verdasco overcooks a groundstroke long of the baseline... FEDERER starts his defence well with a 6-4 6-3 victory! David Ferrer or Thomas Berdych will meet the top seed in the second round. 15:36 BREAK POINT for FEDERER... Verdasco serving at 30-40... Federer snaps a forehand return deep to Verdasco's feet and the Argentine nets a backhand... FEDERER BREAKS for 5-3 15:23 Sebastien Grosjean, the two-time Wimbledon semi-finalist beats 11th seed Joachim Johansson of Sweden 6-1 6-4 and will meet German Nicolas Kiefer in round two 15:22 Verdasco closes out to 15 for 2-2, hitting three groundstroke winners 15:19 Federer stays in front with a confident hold to 15... the Swiss has a difficult draw this week, but in his first match seems to be doing just enough to stay infront 15:16 Verdasco closes out for 1-1 with Federer overcooking a top spin forehand inches beyond the baseline 15:15 FEDERER rushes a forehand return on BREAK POINT and Verdasco is let off the hook... the Swiss appears to be in third gear this afternoon. Unfortunately there aren't many spectators watching this match 15:06 From 40-15 to SET POINT FEDERER... Verdasco is in trouble... long baseline rally, forehand-to-forehand ended by the Verdasco with a backhand error... FEDERER wins the FIRST SET 6-4! 14:53 11th seed Joachim Johansson, semi-final at last year's U.S. Open, is on his way out of the Hamburg Masters trailling Sebastien Grosjean by a set and 5-4 14:50 Federer continues to hold the service advantage in the first set with a hold to 15 for 4-3... Verdasco is starting to rally into action in the match, but has been under pressure on serve 14:42 Argentine Juan Iganacio Chela knocks out Swede Thomas Johansson, the 2002 Australian Open champion, 4-6 6-3 6-4 14:36 No problems for Federer once again, Verdasco is finding that guessing the direction of the Swiss' serve is rather difficult... a hold to love for 2-1 14:34 Verdasco survives, hitting successive winners from two yards behind the baseline for 1-1 14:32 DOUBLE BREAK POINT for FEDERER... Verdasco serving at 15-40... Federer hits a forehand that draws his Spanish opponent to the net, but Verdasco wins the points with a volley that kicks off the baseline 30-40; unreturned serve, back to DEUCE! 14:27 Federer hold serve in the opening game of the match, going through the motions for the loss of one point... 14:26 Roger Federer, who missed the Rome Masters last week due to injury, gets his defence underway serving first to Fernando Verdasco 14:20 Roger Federer, the defending champion, and Fernando Verdasco begin their warm-up on centre court 14:10 In cold conditions in Hamburg, plenty of spectators are being kept warm by rugs, coats and scarves... 12:20 Roger Federer and Tommy Haas marked the start of Hamburg Masters qualifying on Saturday with a spot of tennis on a 'floating' court on the River Elbe. The promotion coincided with the 816th birthday of the Hamburg harbour, watched by 15,000 spectators. Tales from the Tour: Down by the waterfront http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/e7341/live_lng0_spo57_evt7341_alllive1.shtml Robredo had a tough time beating Waske but he managed it 46 75 63! Nocko 05-09-2005, 05:26 PM Roddick lost to Masu. Pandy.... :o Now his block... Nadal is out, Who do you think survive to SF?? Nocko 05-09-2005, 05:29 PM And ..Finally Greg won on clay!! Congrat. Brits!! Nocko 05-09-2005, 05:38 PM Thanks RogiFan!! :worship: :worship: RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 06:09 PM I hope it will be Ferrero to face Rogi on Rogi's side! ;) Perhaps Gaudio on the other side! Yasmine 05-09-2005, 06:49 PM I like Rafa but he had enough titles on clay, Roger can have this one! :p ;) RogiFan88 05-09-2005, 08:03 PM sounds good to me, dancing_queen! ;) Tuesday OOP Center Court starting at 11:00 CEST Robin SODERLING (SWE) vs. David NALBANDIAN (ARG) followed by Tommy HAAS (GER) vs. Dominik HRBATY (SVK) followed by Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) vs. Andre AGASSI (USA) followed by Rainer SCHUETTLER (GER) vs. Andreas SEPPI (ITA) followed by Marat SAFIN (RUS) vs. Alberto MARTIN (ESP) Court M1 starting at 11:00 CEST Fernando GONZALEZ (CHI) vs. Paul-Henri MATHIEU (FRA) followed by David SANCHEZ (ESP) vs. Gaston GAUDIO (ARG) followed by Guillermo CORIA (ARG) vs. Vicent SPADEA (USA) followed by Jiri NOVAK (CZE) vs. Paradorn SRICHAPHAN (THA) Court M2 starting at 11:00 CEST David FERRER (ESP) vs. Tomas BERDYCH (CZE) followed by Max MIRNYI (BLR) vs. Albert COSTA (ESP) followed by Filippo VOLANDRI (ITA) vs. Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP) followed by Fabrice SANTORO (FRA) vs. Guillermo CANAS (ARG) Court M3 starting at 11:00 CEST Mariano PUERTA (ARG) vs. Olivier ROCHUS (BEL) followed by Joachim JOHANSSON (SWE) Thomas JOHANSSON (SWE) vs. Leos FRIEDL (CZE) Jaroslav LEVINSKY (CZE) followed by Lucas ARNOLD (ARG) Olivier ROCHUS (BEL) vs. Mario ANCIC (CRO) Ivan LJUBICIC (CRO) followed by Petr PALA (CZE) Andrei PAVEL (ROM) vs. Fernando GONZALEZ (CHI) Nicolas MASSU (CHI) Court M4 starting at 11:00 CEST Juan MONACO (ARG) vs. Igor ANDREEV (RUS) NADAL IS OUT!!! followed by Simon ASPELIN (SWE) Todd PERRY (AUS) vs. Nicolas KIEFER (GER) Alexander WASKE (GER) followed by Michael LLODRA (FRA) vs. Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS) followed by Yves ALLEGRO (SUI) Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs. David FERRER (ESP) Dominik HRBATY (SVK) HOPP, ROGI und Yves! Good, Rogi gets to test out Ferrer in the dbles before he plays him in the next rd on Wed.! Raquel 05-09-2005, 08:31 PM Well done Roger :) I taped the match when I as working and after seeing it now and I agree with Wyven that Roger was very solid and this was a good comeback win against a tricky 1st round opponent. It was great to see him again. Good luck in the 2nd round, Rogi :hug: Fergie 05-09-2005, 08:32 PM so fergie, did they showed only 2nd set or they cut it when Guga started? WELL DONE ROGER:worship: All the second set for Espn+ ... Espn only will show the first 2 matchs in the day :mad: Hopp Rogi/Yves! :D Stevens Point 05-09-2005, 10:04 PM Roger told about his feet after Verdasco match. "My feet are good, I don't know if they're 100 percent yet, that will show after the tough, long matches. But so far no problem, so it's a good sign." PaulieM 05-10-2005, 12:30 AM Well done Roger :) I taped the match when I as working and after seeing it now and I agree with Wyven that Roger was very solid and this was a good comeback win against a tricky 1st round opponent. It was great to see him again. Good luck in the 2nd round, Rogi :hug: so good to hear that he played a solid match. i won't get to see him till RG at least :sad: TenHound 05-10-2005, 01:16 AM Roger is such a magnificent Human Being, that he never learned that sometimes you need to lie to protect yourself....as in "My Feet? They're fine, just had some bad blisters."...... Dirk 05-10-2005, 02:03 AM I can't imagine his feet getting beat up on the clay. The surface is too slow right? babsi 05-10-2005, 06:32 AM I would rather have Roger win "despite" of Nadal,than seeing him out. Now,if he wins all they gone say is,that it isnīt that big a deal,because Nadal wasnīt there. If you are only concert with the pionts - thatīs OK! ________________________________ The time has come and itīs going nowhere nobody ever said,that life is fair now (Billie Joe Armstrong) lucashg 05-10-2005, 10:34 AM I would rather have Roger win "despite" of Nadal,than seeing him out. I agree with you. I read in GM that the winner of Hamburg should have * next to his name as Nadal is not playing. I guess it was Chloe/Rebecca, whatever her real name is. It was meant to be a joke, but I so can see this happening, people saying the winner was lucky Nadal wasn't there :bs: . Puschkin 05-10-2005, 10:47 AM I agree with you. I read in GM that the winner of Hamburg should have * next to his name as Nadal is not playing. I guess it was Chloe/Rebecca, whatever her real name is. It was meant to be a joke, but I so can see this happening, people saying the winner was lucky Nadal wasn't there :bs: . I don't agree. Whoever wins a tournament, deserves to win it, independent of those not taking part for whatever reason. If you do not take part, you are not in a position to compete. That's the tough reality in professional sports and it has nothing to do with personal preferences. Saying that whoever wins Hamburg is not a deserved winner because Nadal did not play is as unfair as saying that Marat did not deserve to win Paris-Bercy last year as Roger was not there or whatever other example you might find. fightclubber 05-10-2005, 12:09 PM I don't agree. Whoever wins a tournament, deserves to win it, independent of those not taking part for whatever reason. If you do not take part, you are not in a position to compete. That's the tough reality in professional sports and it has nothing to do with personal preferences. Saying that whoever wins Hamburg is not a deserved winner because Nadal did not play is as unfair as saying that Marat did not deserve to win Paris-Bercy last year as Roger was not there or whatever other example you might find. OH PUSCHKIN, YOU ARE SOOOOOOOO RIGHT! babsi 05-10-2005, 12:23 PM Of course you are right,Puschkin but anyone whoīs not a fan of the "winner" will say so - to be honest,I thought Safin got lucky,when he won those two master titles at the end of last year- Roger wasnīt there - so what? IT IS WRONG - deep down in me I know that,but nobody is reasonable all the time ________________________________________ Nice guys finish last. Youīre running out of gas. Your sympathy will get you left behind. (Billie Joe Armstrong) Yasmine 05-10-2005, 12:42 PM I would rather have Roger win "despite" of Nadal,than seeing him out. OMG I didn't realise the comment I made about Nadal would start such discussion :cool: ... I only made it on the joky tone because I actually like him. I definitely agree that the winner of a tournament is always worthy and I hate when people start finding excuses for the player to have won a tournament. The bottom line is, there was so many matches to win the whole thing and whoever did it is the winner, whether others were injured or not... That's how the sport goes. But as Babsi so rightly said, you can't expect everyone to feel that way and to be so reasonable ;) WyveN 05-10-2005, 01:07 PM I agree with you. I read in GM that the winner of Hamburg should have * next to his name as Nadal is not playing. I guess it was Chloe/Rebecca, whatever her real name is. It was meant to be a joke, but I so can see this happening, people saying the winner was lucky Nadal wasn't there :bs: . Well Nadal was lucky in Rome & MC because Borg retired 20 years ago, guess he deserves a * as well. GM is full of rubbish ;) *M* 05-10-2005, 01:20 PM Well Nadal was lucky in Rome & MC because Borg retired 20 years ago, guess he deserves a * as well. GM is full of rubbish ;)I was going to joke that Rafa was lucky in Rome because Roger wasn't there :) Puschkin 05-10-2005, 01:20 PM Well Nadal was lucky in Rome & MC because Borg retired 20 years ago, guess he deserves a * as well. GM is full of rubbish ;) LOL, GM also has its merits, sometimes the analysis is really thoughtful and less superficial than in individual players' threads ;) *M* 05-10-2005, 01:32 PM Looks like Roger will be playing Berdych next. Payback time for the Olympics. SUKTUEN 05-10-2005, 02:10 PM Congrat Roger ~~ Well Done~!!! yanchr 05-10-2005, 03:14 PM Saying that whoever wins Hamburg is not a deserved winner because Nadal did not play is as unfair as saying that Marat did not deserve to win Paris-Bercy last year as Roger was not there or whatever other example you might find. To tell the truth, I really find Marat's winning a little bit lack of convincing since Roger was not there ;) At least it was Marat himself who made a comment meaning roughly like that, isn't it simply more grounded to have the comment coming out of Marat than of people here esp in GM :rolleyes: Bottom line is, it is not like he has ever played Nadal on clay and just got thrashed, though I'm not saying he will pull out a win most probably :p Actually I'm hoping for a Roger-Nadal match on clay, like I did for a Roger-Coria clay match last year. RogiFan88 05-10-2005, 03:24 PM Rogi, revenge time tomorrow vs. Tomas... did anyone see that match today betw. Ferrer/Berdych? I want to know if Tomas was playing a blinder... mind you, he did drop a set... David must be tired fr doing so well this year and making the SF last wk in Roma. HOPP, ROGI!!! Hope Rogi and Yves get to play their dbles today! yanchr 05-10-2005, 03:25 PM Well, quite unexpected, Berdych is the next enemy. I believe Roger won't trip over the same stone twice in a row ;) Revenge time, Roger! SUKTUEN 05-10-2005, 03:26 PM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Roger~!! When is the time of Roger play ? Stevens Point 05-10-2005, 03:28 PM Things that are actually happening in Hamburg are against most of our predictions, huh?? Most of us were thinking Verdasco was giving Roger some trouble and Ferrer was going to be a problem factor for Roger... But, Roger defeated Verdasco without problem and Ferrer didn't advance to the 2nd round. Interesting results! :cool: Now Berdych. I still know how painful I felt in the last summer, witnessing Roger lose to this boy. Roger was really motivated to win a gold medal there, but Berdych forced him to wait 4 more years for another try. :mad: Grrrrr. It is now time for a pay back... SUKTUEN 05-10-2005, 03:31 PM Roger will WIN!!! lucashg 05-10-2005, 03:42 PM I thought I'd just clear this up in case if I didn't: I too think every winner deserves his credit and just because someone wasn't there isn't an excuse. But it happens and I was just pointing out that I can see people talking about it whoever the winner is in Hamburg. Berdych is an interesting 2nd round for Roger. Payback time, Ninja! Berdych hasn't been consistent enough, so I hope he isn't tomorrow and Roger is on fire! Get your revenge, Roger! SUKTUEN 05-10-2005, 03:50 PM are you talk about the video ? Nocko 05-10-2005, 03:51 PM Yeah, winner is just a winner, that's all. It's really difficult to win the tournament even if it's a small one. ;) It's time to pay back, yeah!!! :bounce: :bounce: Ikke ikke Rogi, Hopp, Allez, Roger, Vamos Roja, Go~~~!! :bounce: :bounce: SUKTUEN 05-10-2005, 03:54 PM Roger GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :bounce: :bounce: YOU are the real Champion~!!! Dirk 05-10-2005, 04:07 PM Nadal would have lost early if he was here. He was in no conditon for another week of playing. avocadoe 05-10-2005, 04:07 PM Roger and Allegro's match to start on court #4...difficult opponents, I think, Ferrer & Hrbaty http://62.201.170.1/livescoring/scoreboard/scoreboard.php?court=m4 SUKTUEN 05-10-2005, 04:11 PM thanks avocadoe Fergie 05-10-2005, 04:23 PM Rogi, revenge time tomorrow vs. Tomas... did anyone see that match today betw. Ferrer/Berdych? I want to know if Tomas was playing a blinder... mind you, he did drop a set... David must be tired fr doing so well this year and making the SF last wk in Roma. David is the "One to watch" for the Atp ... We know what this means :p Hopp Rogi, time to revenge! :angel: SUKTUEN 05-10-2005, 04:25 PM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :devil: Nocko 05-10-2005, 04:58 PM Rogi and yve took 1st set!! Good!! Hopp Swiss!!! Unfortunatelly it's very late. I have to go to sleep. :wavey: :zzz: :zzz: yanchr 05-10-2005, 05:41 PM Roger/Yves 6:3, 6:4 Well done :D Rest, Roger. Take care :) babsi 05-10-2005, 06:34 PM Well done - roger/yves :) Looking forward to tomorrow - not really Just hope Roger gets his revange - only, it wonīt change what happened last summer - but it would still be nice! __________________________________________ Every jock can have itīs truth and now the jocks on you. I never knew you were such a funny guy :) (Billie Joe Armstrong) Fergie 05-10-2005, 07:02 PM Wednesday Order of Play Center Court starting at 11:00 CEST Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA) vs. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) followed by Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs. Tomas BERDYCH (CZE) followed by Guillermo CORIA (ARG) vs. Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) followed by Sebastien GROSJEAN (FRA) vs. Nicolas KIEFER (GER) Hopp Rogi!!! :bigclap: RogiFan88 05-10-2005, 08:15 PM HOPP, ROGI! Absolutely have to beat Berdych. RogiFan88 05-10-2005, 08:16 PM David is the "One to watch" for the Atp ... We know what this means :p Hopp Rogi, time to revenge! :angel: Tienes razon, Fergie! PaulieM 05-10-2005, 10:37 PM good luck roger, you can do it!! :D Seleshfan 05-10-2005, 11:16 PM Did anyone find the post match interview for Roger? lunahielo 05-10-2005, 11:31 PM Good job, Rogi/Yves~~ Hopp tomorrow, Rogi~~just do your dance, Ninja :) Daniel 05-11-2005, 01:04 AM Vamos Roger :D :D lucashg 05-11-2005, 02:39 AM Congrats, Roger and Yves! Good luck in next round for both and more importantly: to Roger tomorrow. I won't see the match again, so I hope he does well. Vamos Guga! I want Federer vs Guga for 3rd round! Daniel 05-11-2005, 03:55 AM I want Robredo, coz Guga sometimes can be tricky and bother Roger on clay. | |