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Roma Masters 1st round, Monday 2nd May

its.like.that
05-02-2005, 04:06 AM
Congrats to Gaudio after winning his 3rd title of the year. I hope his win yesterday will remind you all to be extremely weary of backing against the Cat on Clay - for it takes an opponent of the highest quality to knock him off.

For those of you who enjoy dabbling in Winners' markets, here is my analysis of how the draw will pan out.


1st quarter:

With Federer out, and Hewitt missing, Roddick is the #1 seed, and although he is coming off a claycourt title win in Houston, I feel that the first genuine dirt-craver he comes up against, he will simply be outstayed, for the American lacks the patience for success on the European clay stage. Coria's first match against the rugged Fernando Gonzalez will give a fair indication of his chances for success in Rome, while Nalbandian, a finalist here last year, will be playing with confidence after snapping his streak of 5 consecutive losses in finals. Others to watch out for: Haas - may turn up to play but then again, may not, Verdasco/Davydenko - the winner of this one may fancy themselves to get past a couple rounds.


2nd quarter:

Henman faces a stern test up first in Kuerten, which should be a tight match, although on current form, neither threatens this group. If you Robredo backers from last night truly believe that he has picked up some good form, then the 40-1 about him becomes an attractive prospect. Tommy Rob will potentially only have to face the likes of Mathieu, Hrbaty, Rochus, Gasquet and Agassi, to earn himself a place in the semi-finals.


3rd quarter:

If El Gato continues to fire more often than he turns himself off, he will have no problem in his section of the draw, and I believe the quotes around of 12/13-1 about him are good value. If Moya, the defending champ, can overcome the shoulder injury that forced him out of Estoril last week, he may be entitled to have a say, otherwise David Ferrer is the only other form player in the section.


4th quarter:

Rafa has come up almost Federerally short at around 3.00, but after dismissing the challenges of the other main Roland Garros hopefuls in Gaudio and Coria, who can blame the punters for being so supportive of the 18 year old. If Marat decides to play, he should win through a few rounds, and along with Canas, they remain the 2 main chances capable of knocking off the Mallorcan prince.


(Useless)Fact: Spaniards have taken out 3 of the past 4 AMS Roma titles.

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 04:09 AM
Nice write up mate :yeah:

its.like.that
05-02-2005, 04:34 AM
Nice write up mate :yeah:
nice freo tip by the way, hope you're back into green territory now :).

its.like.that
05-02-2005, 04:40 AM
Today's plays:

Ferrer x Gasquet x Grosjean x Hrbat @ 2.25
Verdasco @ 2.60
Seppi @ 2.10
Monaco @ 1.60

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 04:47 AM
Stan the man v berdych is an interesting matchup, might throw a few coins to the way of the swiss gun

its.like.that
05-02-2005, 04:47 AM
Stan the man v berdych is an interesting matchup, might throw a few coins to the way of the swiss gun
:lol: i dont have an official blacklist, but I know to stay away from Berdman. ;)

fisherking
05-02-2005, 05:40 AM
Stan the man v berdych is an interesting matchup, might throw a few coins to the way of the swiss gun
I am with you here bg.
Interesting that bookies have different opinion. Most see here Berdych as a fav but ie Cenrebet give us 1.93 on Czech and 1.83 on Wawrinka at the moment.

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 05:44 AM
I am with you here bg.
Interesting that bookies have different opinion. Most see here Berdych as a fav but ie Cenrebet give us 1.93 on Czech and 1.83 on Wawrinka at the moment.

you sure?? I have it as the other way around

however berdych's form thus far has been nothing to write home about, more and more I'm liking this play

DeccyB123
05-02-2005, 05:48 AM
Kuerten @ 2.05
Seppi @ 2.00
Verdasco @ 2.30
Hrbaty @ 1.45 (Hoping for a bit better odds :sad: )

fisherking
05-02-2005, 05:52 AM
you sure?? I have it as the other way around
yes (http://www.betbrain.com/viewer/Tennis-Italy-ATP_Telecom_Italia_Masters,_Roma_2005-Tomas_Berdych-Stanislas_Wawrinka/detail/eventId/1184509/betTypeId/2/sportId/3/site/0)

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 05:54 AM
I would strongly advise all to stay away from the tabasco v ukraine match, save yourself a few years in your life if you plan to follow it live

DeccyB123
05-02-2005, 05:59 AM
yes (http://www.betbrain.com/viewer/Tennis-Italy-ATP_Telecom_Italia_Masters,_Roma_2005-Tomas_Berdych-Stanislas_Wawrinka/detail/eventId/1184509/betTypeId/2/sportId/3/site/0)
What does the whole home and away thing mean?

DeccyB123
05-02-2005, 06:00 AM
What does the whole home and away thing mean?
Don't worry I understand it now ;)

dbnumberone
05-02-2005, 06:17 AM
gooooooo davyd, start the day off right

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 06:34 AM
Today's plays:

Seppi @ 2.10
Monaco @ 1.60

those two should go in your "specials" category ;)

dbnumberone
05-02-2005, 06:35 AM
reasons to take davyd off the blacklist(s)....3-0 v verdasco, verdasco has lost 3 in a row, and not exactly impressive before that...
GL ALL!

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 06:49 AM
LOL, good luck mate...you will need a lot of it when it comes to my friend the ukrainian

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 08:31 AM
Not touching the Toothless Russian - know better than that! :lol:

a good punter always learns from his mistakes, hence the existence of a blacklist :p

adk
05-02-2005, 08:47 AM
I can't bet till about Wednesday, which is driving me mad, because there's some $$$ to be made today.

WAWA OVER BERDYCH! ...Get on it guys

JMG
05-02-2005, 08:51 AM
I'm on Melzer x Hrbaty and Söderling :p

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 08:53 AM
Ok my final plays

Parlaying - Ferrer x Grojean x Monaco x Hrbaty = $2.50
Single - Wawrinka to beat Berdych - $1.85

Fin090
05-02-2005, 09:28 AM
Henman over Guga, Kuerten had that one win over Rochus which got a lot of people's hopes up but I think he's a long way from 100%, Tiger will take him out.

adk
05-02-2005, 09:46 AM
Henman over Guga, Kuerten had that one win over Rochus which got a lot of people's hopes up but I think he's a long way from 100%, Tiger will take him out.

He may well do, but not at those odds for me. There are better plays today ;)

AceMaan
05-02-2005, 10:16 AM
He may well do, but not at those odds for me. There are better plays today ;)

both of your blacklisted players playing today.......funny how the bookies have put Davydenko as the favorite.....and the punters have quoted Verdasco as the favorite.....however based on statictics...Verdasco is due for a win over Davydenko.....

AceMaan
05-02-2005, 10:19 AM
Ok my final plays

Parlaying - Ferrer x Grojean x Monaco x Hrbaty = $2.50
Single - Wawrinka to beat Berdych - $1.85

Mello has taken one set of Nadal this clay season by 6-2! so he could give some heart-attacks

adk
05-02-2005, 10:35 AM
Anybody think Rusedski's worth a dip at around $10?

Or just no chance at all?

AceMaan
05-02-2005, 10:38 AM
Anybody think Rusedski's worth a dip at around $10?

Or just no chance at all?

if has to serve really well....and hope that Agassi makes mistakes during tiebreaker......or Agassi retires!

AceMaan
05-02-2005, 10:39 AM
if has to serve really well....and hope that Agassi makes mistakes during tiebreaker......or Agassi retires!

sorry Roddick not Agassi

adk
05-02-2005, 10:46 AM
Ok my final plays

Parlaying - Ferrer x Grojean x Monaco x Hrbaty = $2.50
Single - Wawrinka to beat Berdych - $1.85

I heard that Monaco didn't play well at all in the quallies, and just about scraped through

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 10:54 AM
I heard that Monaco didn't play well at all in the quallies, and just about scraped through

true but soderling is still struggling to overcome injury and is good for a laugh on the dirt as are most swedes.

Action Jackson
05-02-2005, 10:56 AM
Söderling is rubbish on clay and he only plays well in Båstad.

Monaco doesn't have to play well to win, it doesn't matter he qualified and today is a new day and it would be a very disappointing loss is Monaco loses to the Toad.

AceMaan
05-02-2005, 10:59 AM
Andreev to beat Almagro @1.72 looks very tasty but if you look at his statistics he has done something very interesting.....he has beaten the hottest player on clay this season....and also lost to Wayne 'i can only serve' Arthurs ! ......so which Andreev will turn up today.........so i guess it is in their genes right these Russian players

adk
05-02-2005, 11:00 AM
My plays:

Andreev x Gasquet x Ferrer

Wawa

JMG
05-02-2005, 11:01 AM
Söderling is rubbish on clay and he only plays well in Båstad.


That's not true. He played well in Tampere, too. Saw him there against Di Mauro in the semis and then he destroyed Andreev in the final. ;)

AceMaan
05-02-2005, 11:04 AM
Took....Verdasco
double on Hrbaty and Costa

Action Jackson
05-02-2005, 11:04 AM
That's not true. He played well in Tampere, too. Saw him there against Di Mauro in the semis and then he destroyed Andreev in the final. ;)

He is still rubbish on clay.

adk
05-02-2005, 11:05 AM
Okay - taken the following parlay:

Grosjean x Ferrer x Gasquet x Hrbaty @ 2.11

Also done doubles on Wawrinka, Tojo and Seppi...need 2 of those 3 to come off to make a profit.

looks good mate.

what do u think of andreev over almagro?

MalmöKrampan
05-02-2005, 11:21 AM
Grosjean x Ferrer x Gasquet x Monaco pays 2.28.

Also taking THOMAS JOHANSSON to beat Feli, my biggest bet in a while. Pound that $hit BIG! :smoke:

Ale10
05-02-2005, 11:42 AM
Agassi x Roddick x Ferrer x Grosjean @1.55

Kuerten @2.20

its.like.that
05-02-2005, 12:02 PM
[QUOTE=jez]Okay - taken the following parlay:

Grosjean x Ferrer x Gasquet x Hrbaty @ 2.11
[QUOTE]

I like your style ;)

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 12:04 PM
LOL tabasco is schooling Ukraine

Action Jackson
05-02-2005, 12:37 PM
Monaco is a cert.

MrOschie
05-02-2005, 12:41 PM
well done domi :banana:

MalmöKrampan
05-02-2005, 12:47 PM
Monaco is a cert.

:smoke:

adk
05-02-2005, 01:14 PM
Stay away man - Almagro played well apparently through qualies and has those extra matches at the venue. Andreev is a little dodgy right now. Stay away from Andreev and Monaco matches.

too late! lol

Andreev a break up in the 1st :)

its.like.that
05-02-2005, 01:34 PM
the Rusedski-Roddick match was of apalling quality, rod aint going far this tourney.

bad gambler
05-02-2005, 01:36 PM
the Rusedski-Roddick match was of apalling quality, rod aint going far this tourney.

i could have told you that before the match started :p

roddick is rubbish and I reckon the winner of costa and montanes can take him out

Action Jackson
05-02-2005, 01:37 PM
the Rusedski-Roddick match was of apalling quality, rod aint going far this tourney.

He's the Houston champ and people think he's a claycourt legend instead of claycourt clown.

If Costa wins and pulls up alright, he'll take Roddick.

dbnumberone
05-02-2005, 01:40 PM
reasons to take davyd off the blacklist(s)....3-0 v verdasco, verdasco has lost 3 in a row, and not exactly impressive before that...
GL ALL!

Davydenko - on my blacklist! :)

SwiSha
05-02-2005, 02:41 PM
man VERDASCO was an easy play !!! :banana:

going with Monaco + FELI + SEPPI

adk
05-02-2005, 04:17 PM
Everybody seems to be on Seppi over JJ...

MalmöKrampan
05-02-2005, 05:59 PM
Grosjean x Ferrer x Gasquet x Monaco pays 2.28.

Also taking THOMAS JOHANSSON to beat Feli, my biggest bet in a while. Pound that $hit BIG! :smoke:


Grosjean x Ferrer x Gasquet x Monaco pays 2.28 :banana:

Thomas, I hope you guys pounded him BIG as i did :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

What a day :D

adk
05-02-2005, 06:38 PM
Grosjean x Ferrer x Gasquet x Monaco pays 2.28 :banana:

Thomas, I hope you guys pounded him BIG as i did :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

What a day :D

Great man, really great :worship:

Going to put some of those winnings on Seppi?!

MalmöKrampan
05-02-2005, 06:51 PM
Great man, really great :worship:

Going to put some of those winnings on Seppi?!

Already did :wavey:

adk
05-02-2005, 06:53 PM
Already did :wavey:

Atta boy ;)

Come on Seppi! Let's make this day profitable

AtPGiRL
05-02-2005, 07:35 PM
hey, can anyone tell me the best place(s) for betting online? Prefer US dollars if possible. :D

Bilbo
05-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Roddick + Europe = not much success
Roddick + Europe + Clay = hopeless

LESAK
05-02-2005, 07:57 PM
Roddick + Europe = not much success
Roddick + Europe + Clay = hopeless

Then Rusedski must be a poo poo?

its.like.that
05-03-2005, 12:56 AM
Today's plays:

Ferrer x Gasquet x Grosjean x Hrbat @ 2.25
Verdasco @ 2.60
Seppi @ 2.10
Monaco @ 1.60
ooooooooooooooohhh yeah!!!!! to the bank baby!!!!!!! :D

bad gambler
05-03-2005, 12:58 AM
congrats mate :)