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Xavier will probably be suspended for ten weeks

Allez-H
04-20-2005, 08:41 AM
According to some newssources here in Belgium, Xavier will most probably be suspended for 10 weeks following his outburst in Miami. The news isn't official yet and both parties won't let anything loose but the rumor has been spread in the hallways of tourneys. Hope it isn't true :sad:

syd
04-20-2005, 08:47 AM
yes i read it too in DH, but he can play RG & Wim !

(french) :http://www.dhnet.be/index.phtml?content=http://www.dhnet.be/search.phtml?action=rech&results=2&search_type=1&limit=10&sec_4=1&sec_3=1&sec_8=1&sec_15=1&sec_14=1&word1=malisse

BelgianGirl
04-20-2005, 12:35 PM
Pfff! Hope that's not true. That suspension would be too long for what he did I think... :(

HybridTheory
04-20-2005, 12:36 PM
What did he do than ? :confused:

Alvarillo
04-20-2005, 05:45 PM
what he did was really stupid but 10 weeks ... too much time out from circuit i think...

Adman
04-20-2005, 06:20 PM
That is insane!! 10 WEEKS

alfonsojose
04-20-2005, 07:19 PM
:eek: it's too much. And why only him? Have Other players done thing like that in the past :shrug: ?

El Legenda
04-20-2005, 07:20 PM
10 WEEKS???? its not like he hit anyone...just little bad temper...I say a little fine should do it.

joske
04-20-2005, 07:23 PM
MY GOD why the hell do they give him 10 weeks ????? that's a LONG time... :(

I hope it's not because he yelled at that blonde tubby (the one who said he used bad language when he didn't and then ran off when he started freaking out) :rolleyes:

anyways this punishment is much too heavy for what he did.. other players have started yelling in the past too, no? how many times did they suspend John McEnroe during his career? neone know? if they punished him as hard as Xavier now McEnroe should've been on suspension 75% of his career and I don't think that happened :confused:

if the rumours are true, the people who decided this are mingers

RogerRocks
04-20-2005, 07:39 PM
that's a good step. Players will learn to behave better in future :)

Tinne
04-20-2005, 07:39 PM
What??!! 10 weeks?? That's insane! They can't do that! :fiery: I hope this is just a rumour... poor guy...

dylan24
04-20-2005, 07:57 PM
thats bullshit.
he shouldn't be suspended at all.
maybe a fine.
but that is it.
fuck that fat POS lineswoman who caused all this

tennisphan
04-20-2005, 08:01 PM
no one wants to fill in the people who do not know???....

Turkeyballs Paco
04-20-2005, 08:47 PM
They shouldn't keep linespeople around when they have trouble with foreign accents. This was an "American" tournament, but unless they are ready to accept that tennis is an international sport that requires they make an effort to understand people who don't speak American, they shouldn't be working there. I don't like that the chair puts so much trust in the linespeople's word. They may be well-intentioned, but not always right. It's telling to see their errors pointed out on clay over and over again.

I can certainly understand why he lost it. But, no matter how unfair they are to you, there's still a line you must not cross. Maybe he shouldn't have hit the lady with the ball? How many of us would be allowed to go apeshit like that at work and get away with it?

Turkeyballs Paco
04-20-2005, 08:49 PM
thats bullshit.
he shouldn't be suspended at all.
maybe a fine.
but that is it.
fuck that fat POS lineswoman who caused all this

And I suppose if it was a fat POS linesman instead of lineswoman, it would have gone over better? I don't see how her looks make any difference here. Can you explain that to me? If she looked like a model, would you have been ok with it?

I think what she did was awful, what Malisse did was ridiculously stupid, and what everyone is focusing on -her looks- is just pathetic.

Geniey2g
04-20-2005, 08:51 PM
uh, hello!! Didn't he play yesterday??

10 weeks starting when???

Chloe le Bopper
04-20-2005, 08:56 PM
Way to reinforce the "tennis is a prissy sport" stereotype.

Jenrios
04-20-2005, 09:44 PM
I can't believe that's true - that's absolutely ridiculous! way too harsh.

basil333
04-20-2005, 10:05 PM
Im in Barcelona today...

Sos Xavier... he has rackets... he is on the court.... this must be rumours... hes not looking like hes having an enforced 10 week holiday

Chloe le Bopper
04-20-2005, 10:08 PM
Im in Barcelona today...

Sos Xavier... he has rackets... he is on the court.... this must be rumours... hes not looking like hes having an enforced 10 week holiday
I assume that they have been letting him play since the incident until they officially decide what to do with him.

Julio1974
04-20-2005, 10:38 PM
Way to reinforce the "tennis is a prissy sport" stereotype.

However, if Coria had done it, some people here would advise that he be suspended for life..

tinuviel_estel
04-20-2005, 11:39 PM
However, if Coria had done it, some people here would advise that he be suspended for life..
:lol: :lol: here we go again! ;)

smucav
04-21-2005, 02:52 AM
no one wants to fill in the people who do not know???....http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=1437092&postcount=120

owyn
04-21-2005, 03:00 AM
that is soooo not fair! it's ridiculous! i mean it was a shit call!

and 10 weeks would mean he won't be in england

:mad:

gravity
04-21-2005, 03:07 AM
I don't see how her looks make any difference here. Can you explain that to me? If she looked like a model, would you have been ok with it?


Her looks make a big difference to the situation. She's attractive: Xavier handles the situation cooly, gets her number and they vow to discuss her mistake politely over a candlelit dinner later that night.

rommel99
04-21-2005, 04:06 AM
Her looks make a big difference to the situation. She's attractive: Xavier handles the situation cooly, gets her number and they vow to discuss her mistake politely over a candlelit dinner later that night.
:haha: !!!! seriously they shouldt do that..

Experimentee
04-21-2005, 04:18 AM
That is ridiculous. They cant even prove that he said what they think he did. That is like sentencing someone with no proof of their guilt. And 10 weeks is way too much. Its not like he took a banned substance, and even people who test positive get a chance to have a hearing.

Federerhingis
04-21-2005, 04:22 AM
That is insane!! 10 WEEKS


This is absurd the guy just lost his temper, yeah his anger got quite escalated but I mean please did he even swear in dutch? This is ridiculous really!

Scotso
04-21-2005, 05:33 AM
Oh well, maybe next time he'll be a bit less of an ass.

tennischick
04-21-2005, 06:19 AM
Oh well, maybe next time he'll be a bit less of an ass.
wow -- i agree with Scotso.

i'm sorry but i don't see how anyone can defend his COMPLETE loss of control. Malisse needs to learn how to control himself like an adult. his behavior was completely unacceptable IMO. not to mention horrifically embarassing. mainly to himself. :o

that notwithstanding, a 10-week penalty just doesn't make sense to me. the ATP usually levies specific fines. how did they decide to fine him "time away from the tour" instead of a few thousand bucks? i am confused by this decision :shrug:

Scotso
04-21-2005, 06:41 AM
I think because they feel this is a very serious issue. He really could have hurt someone. A money penalty is nothing to these millionaires... but forcing them to be off the tour for ten weeks is enough to get their attention.

And we're in agreement about his complete loss of control. No profession should behave like that, ever. To be honest, if I was in charge of the tour, he would no longer be allowed to play on it. The was he acted was just completely unbelievable, no matter if he was jipped or not.

Scotso
04-21-2005, 06:41 AM
And it isn't the first time we agreed :p We are united in our anti-Roddick campaign.

Scotso
04-21-2005, 06:43 AM
thats bullshit.
he shouldn't be suspended at all.
maybe a fine.
but that is it.
fuck that fat POS lineswoman who caused all this

Wrong. Totally wrong.

The linesman may have caused him to be defaulted from the match, but he has no one but himself to blame for his pathetic outburst.

rommel99
04-21-2005, 07:40 AM
Wrong. Totally wrong.

The linesman may have caused him to be defaulted from the match, but he has no one but himself to blame for his pathetic outburst.

why cant he blame the lineswomen? why would he blame for himself? they made a mistake now he should pay for that mistake?

Lee
04-21-2005, 08:26 AM
I think because they feel this is a very serious issue. He really could have hurt someone. A money penalty is nothing to these millionaires... but forcing them to be off the tour for ten weeks is enough to get their attention.

And we're in agreement about his complete loss of control. No profession should behave like that, ever. To be honest, if I was in charge of the tour, he would no longer be allowed to play on it. The was he acted was just completely unbelievable, no matter if he was jipped or not.

From the video I watched, I can't say he's completely loss control. There was one report I read that was totally against him but the writer was not an eyewitness but reporting what he heard.

I really like to see a statement from ATP explaining the reason for the 10 week suspension and base on whose testimonies.

joske
04-21-2005, 08:36 AM
so do I :o poor Xav :sad: (altho.. the ten weeks suspension is still a rumour, right? *fingers crossed*)

Lauryn
04-21-2005, 12:30 PM
The original article also stated that he would be able to play in the grand slams, ITF events.

I haven't seen anything official though

And I think he does deserve a suspension, though ten weeks may be a bit long.

hablovah19
04-21-2005, 01:04 PM
I think because they feel this is a very serious issue. He really could have hurt someone. A money penalty is nothing to these millionaires... but forcing them to be off the tour for ten weeks is enough to get their attention.

And we're in agreement about his complete loss of control. No profession should behave like that, ever. To be honest, if I was in charge of the tour, he would no longer be allowed to play on it. The was he acted was just completely unbelievable, no matter if he was jipped or not.

:eek::eek::eek: Thank goodness you are not!!!!!!!

I don't feel he even comes close to what John McEnroe or others have pulled!!! :p

syd
04-21-2005, 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Lauryn
And I think he does deserve a suspension, though ten weeks may be a bit long.
may be it will calm him !

TheMightyFed
04-21-2005, 01:08 PM
Nevertheless that was a great moment of tennis, this spoiled kid losing control like that was pretty pathetic, but when I'm upset I watch it and then I feel much better... ;)

syd
04-21-2005, 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by mdhubert

Nevertheless that was a great moment of tennis, this spoiled kid losing control like that was pretty pathetic, but when I'm upset I watch it and then I feel much better...
:)

Smankyou
04-21-2005, 01:19 PM
Yeah the dude acted like a tool.

10 weeks is a bit much.

tennischick
04-21-2005, 02:33 PM
And it isn't the first time we agreed :p We are united in our anti-Roddick campaign.
oh yes, i forgot this :lol:

maybe those who are defending him did not see how he actually behaved. :shrug:

that said these decisions are inconsistent bec Coria almost hurt a kid at the French and was allowed to play on. and faced no penalties of any kind.

the ATP needs to become consistent in its decision-making. maybe they need to hire me as chief arbitrator. ;)

syd
04-21-2005, 02:42 PM
that said these decisions are inconsistent bec Coria almost hurt a kid at the French and was allowed to play on. and faced no penalties of any kind.
yes, but the kid said to the umpire she hasn't been touched by coria, here the lineswoman said she has been insulted !!!

joske
04-21-2005, 03:07 PM
insulted??? he yelled 'do you know what you did here?' (not the exact words but he didn't call her a fat cow or anything :confused: ) how's that offensive?

maybe those who are defending him did not see how he actually behaved. :shrug:

I can assure you that this is not the case.. they showed the entire thing on Belgian tv and I'm sure on other tv stations as well..

and yes, consistency is what the ATP needs here.. McEnroe did stuff that were just as bad (even if they weren't as bad, he repeatedly behaved like a maniac..) why didn't they punish him for it like they punish Xavier? because he made the crowd laugh??? for god's sake

and I don't think it will calm Xavier down (or at least not immediately) - to be suspended for 10 weeks for something he didn't do (he still says that they accused him of sth he didn't do and to be honest I believe him on that) would only frustrate him even more above anything else

tennischick
04-21-2005, 03:56 PM
now see, we're assuming that he is being punished ONLY for insulting the woman. perhaps he is being punished (and should be) for the entire incident, including his subsequent and complete mental breakdown and the awful scene he made screaming like a fricking maniac on the court in front of all those cameras. and i have no problem with his 10 week ban for his entire behavior, not just insulting the lineswoman.

that said, i still think Coria should have faced a penalty for throwing that racket. it doesn't matter that it didn't hit the kid -- it could have. and McEnroe should have faced a penalty when he hit the kid with the botle of water. the ATP lacks consistency in its decision-making -- which was one of the Potato's points when he fought against paying the fine for not doing the interview before the match. he claimed (and i have no way of knowing if he is right or not) that other players had invoked the same privilege and had not been fined. and here was the then world #1 facing the embarassment of a $80,000.+ fine for something that to him seemed relatively minor. bottom-line: the ATP does not seem to make consistent decisions. i have a problem with that.

arn
04-21-2005, 04:11 PM
Well, considering he can play RG and Wimbledon, 4 weeks in total, he's only suspended for 6 weeks. The 2 weeks before Wimbledon he normally he can practice on the grass to be totally ready for Wimbledon, so those 2 weeks are not really a loss. So he will only miss some weeks before RG :)

Noodles
04-23-2005, 03:17 PM
now see, we're assuming that he is being punished ONLY for insulting the woman. perhaps he is being punished (and should be) for the entire incident, including his subsequent and complete mental breakdown and the awful scene he made screaming like a fricking maniac on the court in front of all those cameras. and i have no problem with his 10 week ban for his entire behavior, not just insulting the lineswoman.


I wonder what you would've done when they said you just lost a match you were winning because of something you didn't do. You just go off court doing nothing? Like some fucking robot who doesn't care? You're playing a match, your adrenaline is rushing through your body, you're winning, playing good recently, thinking youy have a big chance of getting far in this tournament and suddenly it's OVER for something you DIDN'T do. He screamed because he needed to have a let-out for his frustration, an other option would be doing something to the idiot line-judge. His reaction was way better than just cropping it up inside, but maybe you've never felt this kind of frustration, maybe you're to perfect for it.

joske
04-23-2005, 03:43 PM
I wonder what you would've done when they said you just lost a match you were winning because of something you didn't do. (...)You're playing a match, your adrenaline is rushing through your body, you're winning, playing good recently, thinking youy have a big chance of getting far in this tournament and suddenly it's OVER for something you DIDN'T do. He screamed because he needed to have a let-out for his frustration, an other option would be doing something to the idiot line-judge.
hmmmm that's kinda how I look at it too..

tennischick
04-23-2005, 04:16 PM
I wonder what you would've done when they said you just lost a match you were winning because of something you didn't do. You just go off court doing nothing? Like some fucking robot who doesn't care? You're playing a match, your adrenaline is rushing through your body, you're winning, playing good recently, thinking youy have a big chance of getting far in this tournament and suddenly it's OVER for something you DIDN'T do. He screamed because he needed to have a let-out for his frustration, an other option would be doing something to the idiot line-judge. His reaction was way better than just cropping it up inside, but maybe you've never felt this kind of frustration, maybe you're to perfect for it.
i could never be accused of behaving like a robot -- i'm far too emotional for that. the problem wasn't his emotion, it was the extreme of it. the problem wasn't that he became upset; it was HOW.

Tinne
04-25-2005, 08:00 PM
I just heard it on the news here: Xavier is suspended for 4 weeks and he will get a fine on top. I guess this is at least a bit better than 10 weeks, but it still stinks, it so stinks :sad: Goodbye decent preparation to Roland Garros...

joske
04-25-2005, 08:09 PM
oh 4 weeks well at least that's less than what we thought.... still a bit harsh tho :sad:

Kat!
04-26-2005, 11:17 AM
Belgian Malisse Banned for Four Weeks Over Miami Abuse

LONDON (Reuters) - Belgium's Xavier Malisse has been banned for four weeks by the men's ATP Tour after being kicked out of the Nasdaq-100 tournament in March.

He was also fined $6,000, an ATP spokesman said. The four-week ban starts from April 25.

Malisse was leading 6-3, 5-5 when he was defaulted from his match against Spain's David Ferrer in Miami on March 26. ATP Tour officials accused the Belgian of directing "serious verbal abuse" at a line judge.


4 weeks.... eek....

syd
04-26-2005, 11:57 AM
better than 10 !!!

TheMightyFed
04-26-2005, 01:02 PM
I just heard it on the news here: Xavier is suspended for 4 weeks and he will get a fine on top. I guess this is at least a bit better than 10 weeks, but it still stinks, it so stinks :sad: Goodbye decent preparation to Roland Garros...
It stinks but they have no choice if they want players to behave.
It's sad though because this incident will stick to him unless he wins a few slams...

hablovah19
04-26-2005, 01:24 PM
four weeks is better than ten weeks!!! still sux for Malisse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

Socket
04-26-2005, 03:14 PM
I only saw the video of this episode once, but when Malisse started walking to the lineswoman screaming at her, and the official went after him and tried to stop/restrain him, I knew that the ATP would have to take action. He might have gotten away with that if it were a man, but not a woman. Officials in professional sports are very sensitive to the issue of male pro athletes intimidating, or appearing to intimidate, women. In that sense, Malisse is getting punished for the sins of others.

What Malisse should have done is get the hell off the court and beaten the crap out of several lockers in the locker room. He would have to pay for the damage, but that would probably be it. He's got to learn not to act out when there are TV cameras around.

TheMightyFed
04-26-2005, 03:39 PM
I only saw the video of this episode once, but when Malisse started walking to the lineswoman screaming at her, and the official went after him and tried to stop/restrain him, I knew that the ATP would have to take action. He might have gotten away with that if it were a man, but not a woman. Officials in professional sports are very sensitive to the issue of male pro athletes intimidating, or appearing to intimidate, women. In that sense, Malisse is getting punished for the sins of others.

What Malisse should have done is get the hell off the court and beaten the crap out of several lockers in the locker room. He would have to pay for the damage, but that would probably be it. He's got to learn not to act out when there are TV cameras around.
very true regrettably... ;)

Devotee
04-27-2005, 02:37 AM
This is sort of repetitive of an above post but it's a little longer article.


X Out: Malisse Suspended For Four Weeks

http://www.sportsmediainc.net/tennisweek/FM_MALISSE_W02.jpg
Photo By Fred Mullane By Tennis Week
04/26/2005

Xavier Malisse has learned some things are better left unsaid. The ATP has suspended Malisse for four weeks, stripped him of the $10,350 in prize money he earned at the Nasdaq-100 Open and fined him $6,000 for his "aggravated behavior" that resulted in his default from the Key Biscayne tournament on March 26th.


The suspension stems from Malisse's meltdown during his match against David Ferrer. In a tirade more suited to the WWF than the ATP, Malisse allegedly threw a ball that hit a lines person on the arm, smashed his racquet, kicked over his court-side chair and committed "verbal abuse of a line umpire." Malisse's verbal abuse prompted his default from the match he led 6-3, 5-5.

The 36th-ranked Belgian said his comments were misunderstood by the lines woman.

"I didn't get defaulted because I threw a ball; I got defaulted because the line umpire thought I said something, and she misunderstood words that sound very similar," Malisse said. "Of course I'm going to get mad when you play an hour and a half in the sun, you haven't done anything wrong all match, and you get defaulted before. And then, yeah, I took it a little personal because that means that all the hard work you've ever done is just thrown away by one misunderstanding by one person."

The 2002 Wimbledon semifinalist's brother, Olivier Malisse, told Reuters his brother met with ATP CEO Mark Miles to tell his side of the story in "an honest and positive discussion."

Though he insists his words were misinterpreted, Malisse has accepted the suspension.

"Of course any suspension is disappointing for him, but he has accepted the punishment and accepts responsibility for his actions," Olivier Malisse told Reuters. "It comes at a good time and the fact that he doesn't miss the French Open is the most important thing. He will just get on with his training now."

Tinne
04-27-2005, 06:59 AM
It stinks but they have no choice if they want players to behave.
It's sad though because this incident will stick to him unless he wins a few slams...

Well, maybe, but why do it to Xavier? I mean why not Coria last year, or Mr Perfect Henman for complaining about fat ballkids? That last on is very insulting in my opinion! Sigh!

Horatio Caine
04-27-2005, 10:33 AM
He fully deserved the 4 week ban. Okay i admit it was a little funny watching him rant like a 14-year old who has been grounded for a couple of weeks...but if you that official or line judge well I would have feared a physical assault. He was like a wild animal and that cannot be tolerated - cya on the good side X-Man!! :wavey:

Horatio Caine
04-27-2005, 10:34 AM
Well, maybe, but why do it to Xavier? I mean why not Coria last year, or Mr Perfect Henman for complaining about fat ballkids? That last on is very insulting in my opinion! Sigh!

Those two didn't threaten physical violence. To me Malisse looked like he was ready to hit someone. As it is he did enough damage to equipment. :o

FrogBurger
04-27-2005, 10:36 AM
sorry to hear about htat

PaulieM
04-27-2005, 02:06 PM
wow he lost his prize money, got fined $6000 and got suspended for 4 weeks, that sucks! seems a bit harsh, especially compared to what's happend to other players in the past for their outbursts.

Socket
04-27-2005, 03:12 PM
wow he lost his prize money, got fined $6000 and got suspended for 4 weeks, that sucks! seems a bit harsh, especially compared to what's happend to other players in the past for their outbursts.
And he had to pay his own hotel bill, rather than have the tournament pick up the tab. I'll bet that mini-bar bill really hurts. ;)

Socket
04-27-2005, 03:13 PM
Well, maybe, but why do it to Xavier? I mean why not Coria last year, or Mr Perfect Henman for complaining about fat ballkids? That last on is very insulting in my opinion! Sigh!
When did Mr. Perfect -- I mean, Tim -- complain about fat ballkids?

PaulieM
04-27-2005, 03:27 PM
And he had to pay his own hotel bill, rather than have the tournament pick up the tab. I'll bet that mini-bar bill really hurts. ;)
:eek: now that's taking it too damn far, they're gonna make the man poor! :p

ae wowww
04-27-2005, 03:28 PM
:eek: F*ck 10 weeks?? Too much, he was angry but not dangerous!

ae wowww
04-27-2005, 03:30 PM
I guess the ATP feel its a necessity, to clamp down on it-he will certainly be sure not to repeat that... as will any other player for that matter.