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IIHF world mens hockey championships

flmmkrz
04-20-2005, 06:39 AM
I cant wait for this to get started, good ole canadian boy and no nhl all season :eek:

anyone else betting this tourny... starts april 30th but exhibitions start shortly and then the main events not too long after its about time to start talking about it. Just future bets right now but I of course have my money piled up on canada to take it at 2.75 right now, even without old stand by's like Mario, Sakic and Iginla we still have scorers, role players and the best goalie in the tourny and possibly ever in Brodeur. As far as competition for them russians will be a scoring machine out there but it doesnt look like they'll have a goalie who can keep them in it against the tougher teams but if they catch fire they could win it all. Czechs have Jagr and vokouns a talented goalie so they should be tough as well. Sweden is fielding a below b squad for what they could be fielding so they should be a non factor. Doesnt look like Kiprusoff is playing so finland should be hooped. US is in a rebuilding stage I could see them getting to the semis anyway but mainly cause a few of the euro teams tendancy to be flakey despite their talents being miles ahead of the us teams. Slovaks are like an underpowered russian team, scoring but no goalie.

My being a homer aside Canadas still the class of the world in the competition, there might be a few more talented players else were but a more complete team I dont think there is in this competition.

Anyone else have any thoughts on the outrights? I'll be posting my thoughts on the match by match when it starts up as well.

JMG
04-20-2005, 10:33 AM
Yes, I want to place bets on it for sure, but I'm not an expert! I want to wait for some scandinavian/canadian guys to give me some good thoughts.

I have to look at all the teams first before I can give you my favourite to take the title. I've only seen the teams of USA, Canada and Czech so far and I like Canada most. It's a bit funny that USA has 4 or 5 players from Germany in their team. :o
Maybe Germany has to play without their three biggest stars.
Kölzig (Washington) won't play
Sturm (S.J.Sharks) won't play
and the best imo Jochen Hecht (Buffalo) has an injured arm :(

My first thought is:
Canada to win with -2.5 HC over Latvia @1.95?

Do you think it's realistic?

flmmkrz
05-07-2005, 04:00 AM
Saturday matches

Pounding Canada ml and -.5. Swedens played well to date but while alfredsons very good the sedins are on my home team and I saw them play for the last few years they will not be any sort of threat to this canadian team. Brodeurs already back in form, defence is getting better game by game and offence getting stronger. This is money for the taking.

Latvia -0.5, playing like a team possessed. And archie is nuts in net right now ride the hot team.

flmmkrz
05-07-2005, 08:59 PM
Saturday matches

Pounding Canada ml and -.5. Swedens played well to date but while alfredsons very good the sedins are on my home team and I saw them play for the last few years they will not be any sort of threat to this canadian team. Brodeurs already back in form, defence is getting better game by game and offence getting stronger. This is money for the taking.

Latvia -0.5, playing like a team possessed. And archie is nuts in net right now ride the hot team.

bloody hell. Latvia was golden but canada defence was appalingly bad and cost me a shit load. fu canada defencemen. That being said they play finland tomorrow and im all over them again. lol

JMG
05-08-2005, 09:21 AM
I will play "Germany -1.5" tomorrow :D

Should be an easy game even for Germany. I think they were just a bit tired at the end against Austria.

flmmkrz
05-12-2005, 06:58 AM
Few plays for me...

Took canada ml and -.5 (in the 60 minutes)

Slovaks while a great skating team that has the potential to score a lotta goals if canada doesnt play solid d is also not very solid on d past their first unit and their goalie is suspect. If Brodeur steps it up a notch and canada plays some d this should be a fairly routine win, if not well it should still be a win just more so a grinding win.

Russia ml and -.5 (in the 60 minutes)

Just a deeply talented team of individuals who because of that individual talent playing like individuals likely wont win this tourny but should be way more than the fins could handle.

Layed a little on the Swiss team to take out the swedes ml. This swedish team has been the best in the tourny thus far but the swedes have an uncanny ability to disappear during crunch time and running into a very hot gerber right now will not be helping their cause.

Also took over 5 in the czech/us game.

Avoided the czech game otherwise tho I think the czechs should win but the pesky americans are always game and could keep this close and even sneak out a win if the czechs come out of the gates slow.

bad gambler
05-12-2005, 07:05 AM
Canada ML x Sweden ML parlay for me :)

I have no idea about this, MK told me it was a solid play

flmmkrz
05-12-2005, 07:54 AM
Canada ML x Sweden ML parlay for me :)

I have no idea about this, MK told me it was a solid play

Canada should win.

Im against sweden tho. The latvia game really inflated their goal totals I dont think they're nearly the offensive force their stats indicate. I also think the Swiss have seen far more potent line ups already in the slovaks and czechs and held them to 3 goals and under. If they tighten up even more this could be a squeaker of a game. Wouldnt surprise me at all to see sweden buckle nor would it surprise me to see Sweden win easily. Its 60-40 swedes in my mind.

bad gambler
05-12-2005, 08:15 AM
WTF???

MK reckons to put your house on sweden :sad: :sad:

flmmkrz
05-12-2005, 08:41 AM
WTF???

MK reckons to put your house on sweden :sad: :sad:

is he swedish by any chance?

bad gambler
05-12-2005, 08:44 AM
is he swedish by any chance?

the mofo is indeed swedish :(

oh well lets see how this goes, canada plays in 4-5hrs don;t they? might stay up and follow that game

flmmkrz
05-12-2005, 08:59 AM
the mofo is indeed swedish :(

oh well lets see how this goes, canada plays in 4-5hrs don;t they? might stay up and follow that game

dont get too upset there bg, sweden "should" win this game as they have the superior talent in virtually all positions except in net. So its not a foolish or bad play at all. I just dont see it being an easy a win as a lot of others do based on what i've seen so far, but even possibly overhyped this swede team may have too much for the swiss but as close as I have them in my mind I thought the odds were good enough for a go.

And yeah about 5 hours time

MalmöKrampan
05-12-2005, 10:15 AM
dont get too upset there bg, sweden "should" win this game as they have the superior talent in virtually all positions except in net. So its not a foolish or bad play at all. I just dont see it being an easy a win as a lot of others do based on what i've seen so far, but even possibly overhyped this swede team may have too much for the swiss but as close as I have them in my mind I thought the odds were good enough for a go.

And yeah about 5 hours time

We won against Canada, and now we're not supposed to win against a mediocre team of Switzerland. That means that Switzerland is better than Canada :p

Are we a bit scared of meeting Sweden again?? Well i understand that, but telling fellow punters that the match could go either way... :p

JMG
05-12-2005, 02:59 PM
I'm on Finland to make the Semis @2.20 :)

Nothing intelligent, I just couldn't bet against Finland.

flmmkrz
05-12-2005, 03:13 PM
We won against Canada, and now we're not supposed to win against a mediocre team of Switzerland. That means that Switzerland is better than Canada :p

Are we a bit scared of meeting Sweden again?? Well i understand that, but telling fellow punters that the match could go either way... :p

See this is exactly what I meant as overhyped. I'm not saying sweden isn't the better team here on paper but they've been the better team on paper many times and folded up like a cheap tent.

They beat canada yes, and the win caught me by surprise for sure but we both know canada has another gear and to canada that game was purely preseason form as nearly 3/4 of the team hadn't played a lick of hockey all year whereas the swedish team had all played all year long and the result wasn't a butt kicking. You think the score would have been that close if team canada players had spent all season playing and the swedes took the year off? All I said was in my eyes slovaks and czechs are at least as tough as the swedes and the swiss played them tough, I still label the swedes the favorite in the match but I think its a closer game than a lot of people may predict. Course it could also be a sweden blow out nothing would surprise me.

flmmkrz
05-12-2005, 04:52 PM
well canada wins in a tough fought game. Some very poor officiating in this game but overall pretty free flowing and a great game to watch. Congrats to all canada backers :)

US and czechs in OT at 2-2 so assuming one of them can bury a goal in ot I should get a push, just hoping for that now instead of a shootout. Dipietro unreal this game.

Bring on the swedish game and the russian game.

flmmkrz
05-12-2005, 05:08 PM
and got the push in the us/czech game. Czechs win it in ot.

I figured the pesky us team could keep it close and possibly sneak one out and they almost did take it but gotta hand it to the czechs they deserved this win.

edit****

just read somewhere that it was a win on penatly shots so I may have lost this one after all. I'll have to confirm but czechs definately won.

JMG
05-12-2005, 09:13 PM
fuck! Again a typical Finland loss. Two big faults by the goalie, one short-handed goal for Russia and Finland dominated the overtime but couldn't score.
:mad:
The penalties in this game were much better than in the Czech/USA game. Russia made 3 of 4, Finland 2 of 5. :sad:

They would have needed Kiprusoff.

bad gambler
05-12-2005, 10:09 PM
Canada ML x Sweden ML parlay for me :)

I have no idea about this, MK told me it was a solid play


:banana:

flmmkrz
05-13-2005, 04:49 PM
congrats bg... but I was right the swiss played them damn tough and almost had em. Swedes are highly overated thus tourny.

tennisman.
05-13-2005, 08:44 PM
Canada to win Russia @2,10
Sokolov is horrible goalie+Canada has 4 good lines

flmmkrz
05-13-2005, 09:06 PM
Canada to win Russia @2,10
Sokolov is horrible goalie+Canada has 4 good lines

bloody hell my books again got them at 1.5. I'll check betbrain to find those odds cause either way im pounding the shit outta canada and pounding 2.1 sounds a lot better than what im getting right now. Outta curiousity what book did you find those odds at tennisman?

Also backing the czechs. The one element I was questioning about the czechs was how bad they wanted this but they came out flying against the tough us squad and didn't give up when they could've gotten disheartened. They have at least equal to more talent than the swede squad and better goaltending.

tennisman.
05-13-2005, 10:23 PM
bloody hell my books again got them at 1.5. I'll check betbrain to find those odds cause either way im pounding the shit outta canada and pounding 2.1 sounds a lot better than what im getting right now. Outta curiousity what book did you find those odds at tennisman?

Also backing the czechs. The one element I was questioning about the czechs was how bad they wanted this but they came out flying against the tough us squad and didn't give up when they could've gotten disheartened. They have at least equal to more talent than the swede squad and better goaltending.


I got it from nordicbet.com

flmmkrz
05-14-2005, 05:48 PM
took me a whole lotta work to fund that damn nordic bet account but it was worth it in the end got my 2.1 and pounded it as hard as I could. The boys made it scary for a bit but pulled it out.

Now come on czechers lets make it a sweep in hockey for the day.

flmmkrz
05-14-2005, 10:13 PM
took me a whole lotta work to fund that damn nordic bet account but it was worth it in the end got my 2.1 and pounded it as hard as I could. The boys made it scary for a bit but pulled it out.

Now come on czechers lets make it a sweep in hockey for the day.

sweep it is... pretty good game czechs deserved the win imo...hats off to the swedes for playing them tough but the 2 best teams are in the finals as its meant to be.