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federer express
04-15-2005, 09:25 PM
must be gaudio's!

(i)he plays that ridiculous shot against agassi and they say 'that's our gaston!'

(ii)gets demolished by nadal and they say 'it wasn't his day. dont worry he'll be 5 in the world on monday'

conversely you have federer's fans who every time he loses a match say:
(i) wtf happened to his serve
(ii) get rid of the coach OR
(iii) he needs a coach
(iv) he's not mentally tough

so gaudio fans...give yourselves a pat on the back! :worship:

lucashg
04-15-2005, 09:31 PM
:lol:

So true, though I think most Federer fans are nice and understand and accept his losses perfectly, you know... "it just wasn't his day". But it's his own fault to have spoiled us so much over the last year and a half.

The worse is that you would think that everytime he loses the pressure would be off, hah... it only increases and that's shit for his confidence.

RichardParker
04-15-2005, 09:32 PM
Once again, welcome to the faderer fans bashing thread! :bounce:

Its like what? 2983405th times in last month?
Where are the ones who moan about how repeatitive GM was?
What is irony is that this thread is made by someone who's name is federer express...

federer express
04-15-2005, 09:34 PM
Once again, welcome to the faderer fans bashing thread! :bounce:


actually more of a gaudio fan praising thread...hence the title! :p

RichardParker
04-15-2005, 09:40 PM
actually more of a gaudio fan praising thread...hence the title! :p
Well, your obssesion with federer fan bashing has haunted me.
Now to make this clear, explain why gaudio fans are better than volandri's or ferrer's. :devil:

Chloe le Bopper
04-15-2005, 09:41 PM
You have it all wrong. The best fans in the world are the Adam Chadaj fans! Rah!

Billy Moonshine
04-15-2005, 09:43 PM
Kuerten fans are the best :)
never met one I didnīt like :)

federer express
04-15-2005, 09:43 PM
Well, your obssesion with federer fans bashing has haunted me.
Now to make this clear, explain why gaudio fans are better than volandri's or ferrer's. :devil:

how can i be obsessed with federer fan bashing when i am one. u can find everything i said about their (or our) reaction to his losses on this board today. and i said why i rate gaudio's fans so highly. they accept his game, the nature of it and at times the craziness of it. they just seem to support him...from what i've seen on here. and am yet to meet a self-proclaimed ferrer or volandri die-hard :)

if it makes you feel better...all fans are great

federer express
04-15-2005, 09:45 PM
Kuerten fans are the best :)
never met one I didnīt like :)

nice people do seem to like kuerten. i think people support players with similar personalities to themselves from what i've seen and kuerten does seem like a cool guy. so you might be right.

lina_seta
04-15-2005, 09:49 PM
:lol:

So true, though I think most Federer fans are nice and understand and accept his losses perfectly, you know... "it just wasn't his day". But it's his own fault to have spoiled us so much over the last year and a half.

The worse is that you would think that everytime he loses the pressure would be off, hah... it only increases and that's shit for his confidence.


lol i must agree... im disappointed and sad that he lost today (btu what did u expected... for me to celebrate) nehh... its just natural plus i never so much think of my feelings.. but how ppl, press will fall over it making a natural issue the worst :rolleyes: like roger no more...

Its the minority that will say "wtf happened" or such things... cuz CAN cope with loses and we wont give haters anything that they can use to faintly twist and criticize lol.. so i keep my thoughts to myself ;)

RichardParker
04-15-2005, 09:55 PM
how can i be obsessed with federer fan bashing when i am one. u can find everything i said about their (or our) reaction to his losses on this board today. and i said why i rate gaudio's fans so highly. they accept his game, the nature of it and at times the craziness of it. they just seem to support him...from what i've seen on here. and am yet to meet a self-proclaimed ferrer or volandri die-hard :)

if it makes you feel better...all fans are great
Sorry, I don't think whose fans are better or worse. The more there are the noiser it gets. For this reason, volandri's fans are the perfect to me for now since they don't make noise. And you can support a player no matter what but with a critism. Not everything is perfect even in the fed's tennis world. Or if every fed fan is in plan 'how GREAT he is losing having mps, blah, blah'..... would you consider them great too? I mean, seriouly? :confused:

federer express
04-15-2005, 10:00 PM
Sorry, I don't think whose fans are better or worse. The more there are the noiser it gets. For this reason, volandri's fans are the perfect to me for now since they don't make noise. And you can support a player no matter what but with a critism. Not everything is perfect even in the fed's tennis world. Or if every fed fans are in plan 'how GREAT he is losing having mps, blah, blah'..... would you consider them great too? I mean, seriouly?

so you think it makes more sense for them to say federer isn't great because he lost 2 matches from match points up? (he has also won a match this year from mp down remember). federer is great even if he loses his next 5 matches from match point up. (in my opinion). again you have missed my point. was praising gaudio's fans for not being over the top in their demands and expectations and accepting his losses with humour. this was not meant to be a federer thread. just made a comparison to reinforce my point about gaudio's fans.

RichardParker
04-15-2005, 10:10 PM
so you think it makes more sense for them to say federer isn't great because he lost 2 matches from match points up? (he has also won a match this year from mp down remember). federer is great even if he loses his next 5 matches from match point up. (in my opinion). again you have missed my point. was praising gaudio's fans for not being over the top in their demands and expectations and accepting his losses with humour. this was not meant to be a federer thread. just made a comparison to reinforce my point about gaudio's fans.
Who said federer isn't great because he lost 2 matches?
If you wanted to praise gaudio fans, just do it. I was just pointing out that to do that you had to compare them with federer fans, generalizing federer fans in one certain way. OK, go on with gaudio fan praising... :)

federer express
04-15-2005, 10:13 PM
Who said federer isn't great because he lost 2 matches?
If you wanted to praise gaudio fans, just do it. I was just pointing out that to do that you had to compare with federer fans, generalizing them in acertain way. OK, go on with gaudio fan praising... :)

like i said most fans are pretty cool. just think gaudio's were long suffering and now follow his lead in being happy with his achievements. he has won the french and to an extent, nothing else matters. obviously they want him to win every match but they accept when he doesn't. it is like when ivanisevic won wimbledon. he said he didn't care if he never won another tennis match after that and as one of his big fans i would have echoed that sentiment.

PaulieM
04-15-2005, 10:14 PM
hmm thanks for generalizing about all federer fans from the actions of a small group :rolleyes:

federer express
04-15-2005, 10:17 PM
hmm thanks for generalizing about all federer fans from the actions of a small group :rolleyes:

geeeeeeze. the federer fan comments were a joke (although as pointed out, they have been said here today). and once again, i call myself a federer fan. am not making any serious generalisations. and again...this was not meant to be a federer fan thread. if it was a thread about federer fans and i was really bashing them i would not have given the thread the title 'best fans in the world'

Pea
04-15-2005, 10:18 PM
Any fanbase I belong to is the best! DEEEER!

federer express
04-15-2005, 10:20 PM
i think people support players with similar personalities to themselves

yet more proof i am not bashing federer fans (not intentionally anyway). i think he seems like one of the 'nice guys' of the tour. so from the statement above, you can figure that i am unlikely to think badly of most of his fans.

federer express
04-15-2005, 10:22 PM
i like hewitt fans too (and not just because i like hewitt). but because they have the guts to cheer for him when 99% of people in the crowd generally want his opponent to win. and because they are loyal to him!

dutch fans are generally cool and fun too! (apologies for another generalisation)

Hendu
04-15-2005, 10:48 PM
must be gaudio's!

(i)he plays that ridiculous shot against agassi and they say 'that's our gaston!'

yes, but I also say 'thats our Gaston' when he wins the point after making that shot...
In fact, thats our Gaston, for trying to make that kind of shots...

(ii)gets demolished by nadal and they say 'it wasn't his day. dont worry he'll be 5 in the world on monday'

hey!!! I posted that!! :lol:

Well, you learn to live with that... sometimes he will play in an amazing level, beating anybody on clay, and other times he will play pathetically bad... as he did against Spain in the Davis Cup or in the Masters Cup.

He is a player that fights against his head... he has been more stable since RG.
But I have seen Gaudio do things that nobody does... he is too negative, he makes a couple of mistakes and starts yelling things like: I am horrible, I can't play... I once heard him desperately say to his coach (while he was up in score): "I can't win this match, I am too bad to win..." :confused: and believe me, he meant it.

But the good thing about Gaudio is that he seems to be a great guy, and is a pleasure to watch him play... so much talent, that ridiculously good backhand, and that unbelievable touch... Gaudio is just unique.

federer express
04-15-2005, 10:50 PM
But the good thing about Gaudio is that he seems to be a great guy, and is a pleasure to watch him play... so much talent, that ridiculously good backhand, and that unbelievable touch... Gaudio is just unique.

it is a ridiculously good backhand! oh, i agree with the rest of your post too!!

World Beater
04-15-2005, 10:58 PM
hmm thanks for generalizing about all federer fans from the actions of a small group :rolleyes:

Thank you for generalizing my thread

PaulieM
04-15-2005, 11:00 PM
Thank you for generalizing my thread
:confused:

federer express
04-15-2005, 11:01 PM
here comes another generalisation :eek:

i dont like french fans! :eek: :eek:
this does not mean i dislike french people. love their country, language, food and wine. just that i dont like french tennis watching crowds. cannot excuse or justify the way they treat some players. notably the williams sisters (serena really), hingis and most of all leconte when he lost to wilander in the RG final.

NATAS81
04-15-2005, 11:10 PM
I can vouch for every player fanbase because I cheer them all equally.

federer express
04-15-2005, 11:11 PM
I can vouch for every player fanbase because I cheer them all equally.

really? you sure? :p

NATAS81
04-15-2005, 11:12 PM
More depending on the amount of v$ at stake.

bad gambler
04-15-2005, 11:16 PM
the swedes at the AO are always good fun - they support their men hard but end of the day always up for an aussie beer to clear their throats :yeah:

PaulieM
04-15-2005, 11:19 PM
geeeeeeze. the federer fan comments were a joke (although as pointed out, they have been said here today). and once again, i call myself a federer fan. am not making any serious generalisations. and again...this was not meant to be a federer fan thread. if it was a thread about federer fans and i was really bashing them i would not have given the thread the title 'best fans in the world'
that's fine. it's just a lot of people have been doing that lately. it's fine to praise gaudio fans, i actually think they are some of the most supportive ones, but it wasn't really necessary to compare them to federer fans in order to praise them.

Action Jackson
04-16-2005, 03:15 AM
the swedes at the AO are always good fun - they support their men hard but end of the day always up for an aussie beer to clear their throats :yeah:

That is very true.

Action Jackson
04-16-2005, 08:54 AM
must be gaudio's!

(i)he plays that ridiculous shot against agassi and they say 'that's our gaston!'

(ii)gets demolished by nadal and they say 'it wasn't his day. dont worry he'll be 5 in the world on monday'

conversely you have federer's fans who every time he loses a match say:
(i) wtf happened to his serve
(ii) get rid of the coach OR
(iii) he needs a coach
(iv) he's not mentally tough

so gaudio fans...give yourselves a pat on the back! :worship:

Thanks for the kind words, but at the same time sure he tried the caņo and missed it against Agassi, but what I am supposed to do. Getting pissed off about it isn't going to do anything.

Yes, he has won Roland Garros and Buenos Aires, if he wins a Davis Cup then his career is complete. It's just realistic expectations.

The Federer fans well I know most of the long term ones and they aren't the ones who went on with those 4 things above, some of have unrealistic expectations, but you are considered a philistine if you like Federer's play and don't fawn over him.

Ferrero Forever
04-16-2005, 09:02 AM
the swedes at the AO are always good fun - they support their men hard but end of the day always up for an aussie beer to clear their throats :yeah:
Ah yes...i was watching costas match where i was the only one making any noise, and then the swedes started yelling and it encouraged our match to get a tiny bit louder. They're great though.

lsy
04-16-2005, 11:05 AM
How fans react and what attitude they have are very often linked with how the players are doing.

Gaudio fans are used to going tough matches with him, they know he is a great player but mentally he's not the greatest, they fully understand that and will accept him just as how he is.

Federer has many fans who jumped on board when he wins a lot last year, and it's not difficult to understand why these are the one who act hysterical when suddenly he's losing since they came onboard when he's cruising. One day when Federer stop winning that much, you'll probably see thread from Fed fans of "I'll be happy if Rogi fan just do well in this tournament" rather than the "oh Rogi lost a match, DISASTER!" etc etc though I rather put up with some bandwagon jumpers at this stage than having that to happen.

and if Nadal continues his hot form like now, I won't be surprise there will be a few who popped out of nowhere posting obnoxiously and give his "old" fans a bad name, just like Federer's now. It isn't long ago when we have Andy trolls who make stupid threads in both GM and Rogi's forum too, and that certainly doesn't represent most of his fans as well.

I had seen enough of craps from different fan groups for the past one over year in GM at different stage of the year. What's the point of saying who's better than who? Just come at different time at different situation, and I guarantee you'll see a different picture you're seeing now.

Rogiman
04-16-2005, 11:23 AM
It was crystal-clear to me Roger's run had to end at some point, and I am 90% sure he would have lost to Nadal had he won yesterday, but it's still disappointing, even though I'm not like makro120 who believes Federer should finish a calender-year without a single loss.

I do make comments in the Fed-Forum like: "why in the world can't he serve out matches properly" which is (a) true and (b) totally explicable, as being a fan is all about emotions, and we fans get emotional during matches and do not expect to be recorded and have our reactions used against us in threads like this one.
Everyone reacts differently in sports, as long as it's not a violent reaction it's O.K.

federer express
04-16-2005, 12:11 PM
It was crystal-clear to me Roger's run had to end at some point, and I am 90% sure he would have lost to Nadal had he won yesterday, but it's still disappointing, even though I'm not like makro120 who believes Federer should finish a calender-year without a single loss.

I do make comments in the Fed-Forum like: "why in the world can't he serve out matches properly" which is (a) true and (b) totally explicable, as being a fan is all about emotions, and we fans get emotional during matches and do not expect to be recorded and have our reactions used against us in threads like this one.
Everyone reacts differently in sports, as long as it's not a violent reaction it's O.K.

i get soooo pissed off when the player i am supporting is doing badly. thats normal i think. the only thing i disagree with is the idea that federer needs to change something every time he loses a match...thats all. i just find the reaction to his defeats funny and unrealistic. even if he ends up being recognised as the best player ever he will still lose matches every year. even if he is the mentally toughest, best serving, most talented, fittest, best coached player of all time...he will still lose matches. its just gonna keep happening. nobody can win all the time. in my opinion he is still the best with the least flaws in his game but at times that seems to get forgotten in a knee-jerk reaction to one of his rare defeats by some of his fans. thats the point i was making.

completely agree with bg about swedish fans!!

federer express
04-16-2005, 12:18 PM
and this thread cant be all bad. it did get me my first ever good rep from GWH :aparty:

Smankyou
04-16-2005, 12:23 PM
GWH, you have a fan. You're a deity in these parts. ;)

And I believe Irakli fans own all others.

Action Jackson
04-16-2005, 12:28 PM
GWH, you have a fan. You're a deity in these parts. ;)

And I believe Irakli fans own all others.

Irakli is one unique individual and that says it all really.

federer express, time to break out the champagne.

WyveN
04-16-2005, 12:51 PM
Yes, he has won Roland Garros and Buenos Aires, if he wins a Davis Cup then his career is complete.

Without Houston? :eek:

Action Jackson
04-16-2005, 12:53 PM
Without Houston? :eek:

Yes, he misses Houston on the resume, he'll never get the respect he deserves.

federer express
05-06-2005, 03:36 AM
Yes, he misses Houston on the resume, he'll never get the respect he deserves.

this latest result must test even you!

Action Jackson
05-06-2005, 09:03 AM
this latest result must test even you!

Why would this one be any worse than the others? He whined about the scoreboard which was placed in a strange place, but this isn't an issue if he was winning.

Froggy Ferrer played well, whatelse is there to say really.

nermo
05-06-2005, 10:59 AM
I think Federer Fans are the best..they re the most realistic about his results..but i think part of it comes from the good and respected mentality of Federer himself ..i always think that one admires a person with whom he shares similarities..and yet he feels he completes his negativities

and yes...Andy fans are good ..they always support him even if it was a thread coming from other planets!!

Action Jackson
05-06-2005, 11:02 AM
I think Federer Fans are the best..they re the most realistic about his results..but i think part of it comes from the good and respected mentality of Federer himself ..i always think that one admires a person with whom he shares similarities..and yet he feels he completes his negativities

and yes...Andy fans are good ..they always support him even if it was a thread coming from other planets!!

Good to see your sense of humour hasn't lost anything at all.

nermo
05-06-2005, 11:08 AM
Good to see your sense of humour hasn't lost anything at all..Originally posted by Goerge WHitler


THANKS.. :) :) cant be sure was that true or was it another Ironic comment upon my participation..??

Smankyou
05-06-2005, 12:32 PM
haha go with your gut instinct, Nermo.

Action Jackson
05-06-2005, 12:38 PM
THANKS.. :) :) cant be sure was that true or was it another Ironic comment upon my participation..??

I don't make ironic comments.

nermo
05-06-2005, 01:13 PM
haha go with your gut instinct, Nermo. Originally posted by Smankyou

:D :) yes..i think i ll go with it ..and believe what i want to believe..


And GeorgeWhitler ...Just relax...no hard feelings..

Action Jackson
06-06-2007, 10:28 AM
After I read in the last posts of the Nalbandian vs. Davydenko thread http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=5478053#post5478053

I decided to bump this thread up, because players don't deserve fans who can't handle the fact that their player lost a match.

My favourite fans are the ones who don't live and die by their favourite players results and can actually speak with them about the game irrespective of whether you like that player or not.

As soon as someone says something critical of Federer, even when it's deserved. There are a certain section of Federer fans that would want you tried before the Criminal Court in the Hague.

RonE
06-06-2007, 10:39 AM
The best fans are those of King Hernandez. Just like the king himself, they rise up to the occassion and truly separate themselves from the cretin fans of other mere earthly players :worship:

VolandriFan
06-06-2007, 10:51 AM
A good fan is someone who is completely loyal to their favourite player under all circumstances and always supports him.

VolandriFan
06-06-2007, 10:51 AM
Willy has some great fans, because they didn't judge him when he faced those doping allegations. They have been rewarded now that he's back better than ever and proven innocent. :)

martine2
06-06-2007, 04:14 PM
You don't choose for a player in function of his results, but because you like his game, his fighting spirit and his personality.
And you stick to him whether he wins or not.
Plus you stay realistic and don't go blind for his mistakes, but you're even more happy on his achievements.

BlackSilver
06-06-2007, 04:49 PM
The best fans are those of King Hernandez. Just like the king himself, they rise up to the occassion and truly separate themselves from the cretin fans of other mere earthly players :worship:

Hahahaha, good one, especially the "cretin fans" part.