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Thursday 14th April - Monte Carlo TMS

AnnabelLee
04-13-2005, 06:02 PM
So what are your plays for thursday??

some interesting matches:

ferrero vs. safin
davydenko vs. gasquet
volandri vs. puerta

do you think ferrero can win??

davydenko vs. gasquet is also very tough to predict,
but I think im going with davydenko.

maybe a davydenko x puerta parlay. not sure

adk
04-13-2005, 11:09 PM
M Puerta vs F Volandri

N Davydenko vs R Gasquet

R Federer vs F Gonzalez

J Ferrero vs M Safin

R Nadal vs O Rochus

G Coria vs A Martin

G Gaudio vs V Hanescu

D Ferrer vs M Zabaleta

adk
04-13-2005, 11:13 PM
My initial leans, without looking at the odds:

These are not my actual plays... need to think about them, and will write up when I know ;)

M Puerta vs F Volandri

N Davydenko vs R Gasquet

R Federer vs F Gonzalez

J Ferrero vs M Safin

R Nadal vs O Rochus

G Coria vs A Martin

G Gaudio vs V Hanescu

D Ferrer vs M Zabaleta

Ale10
04-13-2005, 11:18 PM
I'm already know my picks, but waiting for the odds from gb...

adk
04-13-2005, 11:21 PM
I'm already know my picks, but waiting for the odds from gb...

looking forward to hearing them ;)

Ale10
04-13-2005, 11:22 PM
looking forward to hearing them ;)

I will post them when I'll get the odds. :)

adk
04-13-2005, 11:24 PM
I will post them when I'll get the odds. :)

Cheers dude

Ale10
04-13-2005, 11:51 PM
I want to go to bed.

I WANT THE ODDS! Fuckin' gamebookers...

Ale10
04-14-2005, 01:21 AM
Gb still without the odds...:mad:

I go to bed, and I will post my picks when I get up. Hopefully I could get up before 10:00 am CET...

Ale10
04-14-2005, 01:47 AM
My plays:

Puerta @ 1.51
Ferrer @ 1.63
Gasquet @ 1.9

Hanescu @ 5.25
Gonzalez @ 5.25
Martin @ 6


The 3 below with half stakes.

Doctor Dance
04-14-2005, 03:18 AM
Ale10, i saw your picks yesterday, you are the best here :worship:

SwiSha
04-14-2005, 04:57 AM
dayum tough day for gamblers today ... Coria Gaudios odds too low to bet big on
the others too close to call for me
gunno if i would ride with young frenchie here again... u never know with kolya

dbnumberone
04-14-2005, 05:09 AM
average bet on puerta

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 05:14 AM
going for a big 3 "teamer" parlay

puerta x toothless ukranian ( :eek: ) x ferrer = $4.05

ukraine was hitting his groundies against costa like a demon, looked bloody impressive for a change

if ukraine wins, and this parlay hits he may move down the pecking order of my blacklist, the least i can do is afford him the chance to make it up to me :p

LESAK
04-14-2005, 05:40 AM
:banana: :banana: :banana: Today i´m going all in on Safin & Ferrer......

NATAS81
04-14-2005, 05:41 AM
If there was a tourney to go all in on the big Russian, this is it.

LESAK
04-14-2005, 05:48 AM
Yeah I have a great feeling about Marat today!!!

My first thoughts were Gasquet "the magnificent" and Puerta and I hope they will both win but no money on them...

Vamos Ferrer
Davai Marat?

NATAS81
04-14-2005, 05:49 AM
Davai/Udachi I believe. :)

flmmkrz
04-14-2005, 07:18 AM
went with singles on:

Puerta
Ferrer
Ferrero
Gasquet

adk
04-14-2005, 07:56 AM
Doubles:

Puerta x Ferrer
Puerta x Safin


Single:

Gasquet

COME ON MARIANO!!

Yoda
04-14-2005, 09:46 AM
Tight matches so only laying singles
Puerta
Ferrer
Gasquet

plus a flyer on Nando to beat my man.....either way I'm happy :cool:

Ale10
04-14-2005, 01:31 PM
Gasquet brought home the money!

:woohoo: :worship: http://www.covers.com/images/emoticons/moneybag.gif

Ale10
04-14-2005, 01:31 PM
Ale10, i saw your picks yesterday, you are the best here :worship:

No way.

Yoda
04-14-2005, 01:41 PM
My plays:

Puerta @ 1.51
Ferrer @ 1.63
Gasquet @ 1.9

Hanescu @ 5.25
Gonzalez @ 5.25
Martin @ 6


The 3 below with half stakes.

We should've been 0-3 on the main bets but Zaba retired and Davy choked :smoke:
clay season is definetely not for the faint of heart :scared:

Ale10
04-14-2005, 01:46 PM
We should've been 0-3 on the main bets but Zaba retired and Davy choked :smoke:
clay season is definetely not for the faint of heart :scared:

Gasquet is a warrior. :)

(Puerta choked too...)

adk
04-14-2005, 03:25 PM
Doubles:

Puerta x Ferrer
Puerta x Safin


Single:

Gasquet

COME ON MARIANO!!

Not a great day, as you can see, with Puerta in both my doubles :mad:

Gasquet came in, but didn't have that much on him.

How did everybody else do today?

Yoda
04-14-2005, 03:38 PM
Main money on Ferrer and Gasquet, lost a bit on Puerta, plus worked the Fed game live on Betfair...so profit whoever wins :cool:

adk
04-14-2005, 03:45 PM
worked the Fed game live on Betfair...so profit whoever wins :cool:

How does that work? I know that it's possible, can you just clarify for me?

Yoda
04-14-2005, 04:03 PM
How does that work? I know that it's possible, can you just clarify for me?

When you get a topsy-turvy game (happens all the time in the clay season:D ), odds fluctuate a lot.
So in this case you could take Gonzo @ $15 after a set down with say 10 unit
And after Gonzon squares it at 1-1 set a piece and say deuce on Feds serve you could take Fed @ $1.5 with say 100units

therefore your total outlay is
100 + 10 = 110 units
If Gonzo wins you get = 10x15 = 150units
If Fed wins you get = 100 x 1.5 = 150 units

Either way you win 40 units ;)

MrOschie
04-14-2005, 04:58 PM
go JCF

adk
04-14-2005, 05:33 PM
When you get a topsy-turvy game (happens all the time in the clay season:D ), odds fluctuate a lot.
So in this case you could take Gonzo @ $15 after a set down with say 10 unit
And after Gonzon squares it at 1-1 set a piece and say deuce on Feds serve you could take Fed @ $1.5 with say 100units

therefore your total outlay is
100 + 10 = 110 units
If Gonzo wins you get = 10x15 = 150units
If Fed wins you get = 100 x 1.5 = 150 units

Either way you win 40 units ;)

That is damn cool... I'm signing up to Betfair NOW!!!

adk
04-14-2005, 05:34 PM
When you get a topsy-turvy game (happens all the time in the clay season:D ), odds fluctuate a lot.
So in this case you could take Gonzo @ $15 after a set down with say 10 unit
And after Gonzon squares it at 1-1 set a piece and say deuce on Feds serve you could take Fed @ $1.5 with say 100units

therefore your total outlay is
100 + 10 = 110 units
If Gonzo wins you get = 10x15 = 150units
If Fed wins you get = 100 x 1.5 = 150 units

Either way you win 40 units ;)

Yoda, can you not just do that on any bet-in-running with an online bookies, like William Hill? Or is it for some reason better doing it on Betfair?

And what do you do, if you take Gonzo 10 units at $15 when he's a set down, and then Federer is like $1.1 and doesn't drop a set?

flmmkrz
04-14-2005, 05:56 PM
That is damn cool... I'm signing up to Betfair NOW!!!

its not exactly that easy otherwise we'd all be rich lol.

Yoda
04-14-2005, 06:07 PM
Yoda, can you not just do that on any bet-in-running with an online bookies, like William Hill? Or is it for some reason better doing it on Betfair?

And what do you do, if you take Gonzo 10 units at $15 when he's a set down, and then Federer is like $1.1 and doesn't drop a set?


yeah you can....it's just that betfair have the better odds.
also its a risk because to make money you have to always go for the losing player to get best odds for him. :scratch:

so there's a risk involved like in most wagers.

Yoda
04-14-2005, 06:12 PM
And what do you do, if you take Gonzo 10 units at $15 when he's a set down, and then Federer is like $1.1 and doesn't drop a set?

If Gonzo is @ $15 then Fed will more likely be @ $1.04 or less.....so you can't just pound both

NATAS81
04-14-2005, 08:00 PM
lol, Davydenko and Safin - Backlisted for life

adk
04-14-2005, 08:35 PM
yeah you can....it's just that betfair have the better odds.
also its a risk because to make money you have to always go for the losing player to get best odds for him. :scratch:

so there's a risk involved like in most wagers.

Ah I understand... so if for example, Gonzo is a set and a break down to Fed, and consequently at about $15, you would put a bit on Gonzo, hoping that he'd come back?

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 08:37 PM
mate betfair is the best method to hedge all your initial bets, defintiely look into signing up

adk
04-14-2005, 08:39 PM
mate betfair is the best method to hedge all your initial bets, defintiely look into signing up

Yeh I'm going to try to sign up to it now.

Just trying to understand how all of this bet/lay stuff works... bit confusing. Kinda understand, but not totally... lol

MrOschie
04-14-2005, 08:44 PM
betfair rockz :banana:

adk
04-14-2005, 09:07 PM
Ok... would somebody mind explaining to me how this 'lay' stuff works?

People keep saying 'lay off this, and lay off that" etc...

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 09:10 PM
when you "lay" you are efectively acting as the bookie

i can lay $5k gaudio to you against nadal at say $1.80 - that means you have the opportunity to back gaudio at $1.80 for $5k

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 09:11 PM
when i lay off some one, i basically hedge my bets - that's when i use that term

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 09:13 PM
this is how betfair runs - its effectively an exchange as opposed to a bookie - they earn income via commissions that both the "layer" and the "backer" pay for each transaction - that's the main downside of betfair IMO

adk
04-14-2005, 09:25 PM
when you "lay" you are efectively acting as the bookie

i can lay $5k gaudio to you against nadal at say $1.80 - that means you have the opportunity to back gaudio at $1.80 for $5k

Cheers mate.

Would you have to take all $5k of that, or could you take, say, just $2k?

NATAS81
04-14-2005, 10:22 PM
Pay attention. The professor is speaking.

Yoda
04-14-2005, 10:37 PM
Ah I understand... so if for example, Gonzo is a set and a break down to Fed, and consequently at about $15, you would put a bit on Gonzo, hoping that he'd come back?

:yeah:

Ale10
04-14-2005, 10:41 PM
I want to register but I haven't home telephone. :confused: What should I do?

Yoda
04-14-2005, 10:49 PM
I want to register but I haven't home telephone. :confused: What should I do?

:scratch: Maybe lie and give a number of friend\family
Betfair has never contacted me by phone :shrug:

Ale10
04-14-2005, 10:51 PM
:scratch: Maybe lie and give a number of friend\family
Betfair has never contacted me by phone :shrug:

The way for me! :lol:

MalmöKrampan
04-14-2005, 11:37 PM
:scratch: Maybe lie and give a number of friend\family
Betfair has never contacted me by phone :shrug:

They rang me a couple of days ago. I only registered but didn't put any money into my account. They are just doing their job I guess.

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 11:57 PM
Cheers mate.

Would you have to take all $5k of that, or could you take, say, just $2k?

no, you can back $1 if you really want, it just means $4,999 of my lay will be unmatched until the markets picks it up.

laying (in the betting sense ;) ) is a great means of making some easy cash.

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 11:58 PM
you can give betfair your mobile no.

Ale10
04-14-2005, 11:58 PM
They rang me a couple of days ago. I only registered but didn't put any money into my account. They are just doing their job I guess.

What if the user doesn't speak English? :lol:

Ale10
04-14-2005, 11:59 PM
you can give betfair your mobile no.

Yes, I had problems with the formatum.

bad gambler
04-15-2005, 12:04 AM
Yes, I had problems with the formatum.


the formatum?

don;t you have a gamebooker account dp? it effectively the same isn't it? however the liquidity is much better on betfair

Ale10
04-15-2005, 12:05 AM
the formatum?

don;t you have a gamebooker account dp? it effectively the same isn't it? however the liquidity is much better on betfair

There are much better odds on betfair mate.

bad gambler
04-15-2005, 12:08 AM
There are much better odds on betfair mate.


the odds are better becuase of the gamblers on betfair dp ;)

Ale10
04-15-2005, 12:13 AM
the odds are better becuase of the gamblers on betfair dp ;)

Sure. I just registered, I want to make a deposit now.

MalmöKrampan
04-15-2005, 12:42 AM
What if the user doesn't speak English? :lol:

They haave a website in swedish..so a dude from London called me and he was speaking swedish :confused:

I guess they have a multi language office...

bad gambler
04-15-2005, 12:43 AM
what was his swedish accent like? :lol:

MalmöKrampan
04-15-2005, 12:45 AM
what was his swedish accent like? :lol:

Fluent mate...I guess they are a serious company.

Ale10
04-15-2005, 03:46 AM
Fluent mate...I guess they are a serious company.

I think they haven't a Hungarian associate. :) :lol:

adk
04-15-2005, 03:49 AM
I think they haven't a Hungarian associate. :) :lol:

:haha: