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Has anyone ever won 3 straight tmc titles?

makro120
04-03-2005, 11:59 PM
Another record for federer to break?

Can't wait for Monte Carlo, this will be the beginning for the last test for Federer, how good is he on clay?

What a challenge this will be and how many interesting opponents he will have against him, the clay season will definetly be the highlight of the season!

makro120
04-04-2005, 12:01 AM
Also, how long time ago was it someone won 5 straight titles?

Federer has won 4 straight titles 3 times in the last 9 months now!!!!!!

But never 5...

God, I love these records!

Sjengster
04-04-2005, 12:19 AM
Pigs will fly if Federer somehow wins Monte Carlo - and that's if he's even playing it.

makro120
04-04-2005, 12:23 AM
Yeah, then let them fly! If anyone can do it, you know his name....

smucav
04-04-2005, 12:26 AM
Another record for federer to break?

Can't wait for Monte Carlo, this will be the beginning for the last test for Federer, how good is he on clay?

What a challenge this will be and how many interesting opponents he will have against him, the clay season will definetly be the highlight of the season! I do not think that anyone has won three in a row, but I wonder if The Fed will even play Monte-Carlo. He hasn't the last two years. Also he would not be the favorite on that surface/conditions.

makro120
04-04-2005, 12:27 AM
It would be an incredible challenge, I really, really want him to play in Monte Carlo.

Flibbertigibbet
04-04-2005, 01:03 AM
Why the skepticism about him at Monte Carlo, Sjengster? He's won a couple Hamburgs and reached the quarterfinals of the French Open, so he's at least decent at clay, but I've never really seen him play much on the red dirt.

Neely
04-04-2005, 01:23 AM
I know that Roddick, Agassi (twice), Rios, Rafter, Sampras, Medvedev, Chang, Courier won back-to-back Masters Titles.

I remember an article that said that "Safin is looking to become the first player to win three consecutive ATP Masters Series titles" after having won in Madrid and Paris at the end of last year.

If this information is correct, then I think Federer could try becoming the first player now to accomplish that feat too when playing Monte Carlo.

Domino
04-04-2005, 01:40 AM
He will be playing all three clay MS events. He already stated this before the match.

NYCtennisfan
04-04-2005, 02:45 AM
Nobody has won 3 straight TMS events in a row since it's inception in 1990.

As for five straight tournies, I know McEnroe did it in 84 : Philly/Richmond/Madrid/Brussels/Dallas WCT/Forrest Hills/World Team Cup before losing in the finals at the French to Lendl. Lendl did it twice in 82 (at least once which was 6 in a row! but I think he actually did it twice). Pete did it in 94 when he won IW/Miami/Osaka/Tokyo Outdoor/Rome! before losing to Stich in World Team Cup and in the quarters of the French to Andre. Muster did it 95 when he won Estoril/Bacelona/Monte Carlo/Rome/The French/St. Poelten and then finally lost to Corretja in Gstaad.

Andre almost did it in '95 when he won Washington/Montreal/Cincy/New Haven and eventually lost in the final of the USO to Pete.

nkhera1
04-04-2005, 02:56 AM
Federer already has 6 Master Series. Agassi has 17 and Sampras has 11, so Federer may come close to this record as well.

lucashg
04-04-2005, 03:30 AM
I'm a little surprised that he's playing Monte Carlo. I was assuming that he wouldn't since last year he didn't and had enough rest between the two AMS tournaments, now it's just so little time. But the period he had off-court before Indian Wells and Miami wasn't all that big, so who knows...

Federer has proved himself on clay. He has won Hamburg twice, reached the final of Rome and quarterfinals of Roland Garros. These are good numbers. Of course he's not the favorite there, but I think this is somehow a good point for him, because it takes some pressure off him.

If he really plays Monte Carlo, good luck then!

lucashg
04-04-2005, 03:32 AM
Federer already has 6 Master Series. Agassi has 17 and Sampras has 11, so Federer may come close to this record as well.

I don't know about reaching Agassi's record, let alone break it, but reaching Sampras' will be "easier", maybe within 2 or 3 years the most - if he stays injury-free and keep it up with his games and there's no surprise on the tour.

alfonsojose
04-04-2005, 03:33 AM
If he's smart, he won't play at Montecarlo

WyveN
04-04-2005, 03:39 AM
If he's smart, he won't play at Montecarlo

why not? Monte carlo has the conditions closest to RG and after skipping it for 2 years his results at the FO perhaps reflect that. Better to skip rome.

rue
04-04-2005, 04:02 AM
He could do it but there are so many clay court players out there and he possibly could meet Nadal again for a rematch, which i think that Nadal could win.

makro120
04-04-2005, 10:05 AM
I think he will have won 10 tmc titles in the end of this year.

I really hope he wins 2 tmc titles on clay and I think he will do it. Rome and Hamburg are more likely, but I really hope Federer wins or goes atleast to quater/semis in monte Carlo. It would be the perfect start for the clay season.

Dirk
04-04-2005, 10:49 AM
Marko you are nuts but I kind of like your craziness. :hug:

bad gambler
04-04-2005, 10:51 AM
I think he will have won 10 tmc titles in the end of this year.

I really hope he wins 2 tmc titles on clay and I think he will do it. Rome and Hamburg are more likely, but I really hope Federer wins or goes atleast to quater/semis in monte Carlo. It would be the perfect start for the clay season.

how much has federer paid you to be his PR machine?

makro120
04-04-2005, 11:12 AM
Paid? I have only lost money on him so far. But that is ok, I expect payback on Roland Garros....

bad gambler
04-04-2005, 11:13 AM
Paid? I have only lost money on him so far. But that is ok, I expect payback on Roland Garros....

:D

Cervantes
04-04-2005, 12:05 PM
I'm not sure he'll do well in Monte Carlo, after all he's only got one week off to adapt to a different surface. Also he might not be a mentally fit as some of the other title contenders.

WyveN
04-04-2005, 02:31 PM
The IW/Miami double is not that rare so don't get ahead of yourself...

syd
04-04-2005, 02:38 PM
i think he'll do well in MC ...

NYCtennisfan
04-04-2005, 08:20 PM
Not "rare" but not normal. How many players have done it?

smucav
04-05-2005, 01:18 AM
Not "rare" but not normal. How many players have done it?From atptennis.com:
THE INDIAN WELLS-MIAMI DOUBLE: Roger Federer became the sixth player to achieve the Indian Wells-Miami “double” since the ATP Masters Series tournaments began in 1990. Here is a look at the players to have achieved the feat:

Player Year
Roger Federer 2005
Andre Agassi 2001
Marcelo Rios 1998
Pete Sampras 1994
Michael Chang 1992
Jim Courier 1991

DIFFERENT ATP MASTERS SERIES TITLES
After winning the NASDAQ-100 Open in Miami, Roger Federer captured his sixth ATP Masters Series shield and his fourth different title at this level. Andre Agassi is the closest to winning all nine having won seven different shields. Here is a look at the different Masters Series titles winners among active players:

Player (Total AMS) Different AMS Tournaments

Andre Agassi (17) 7
’01 Indian Wells, ‘90 ‘95-96 & ’01-03 Miami, ’92 & ‘94-95 Toronto/Montreal,‘95-96, ’04 Cincinnati, ’94 & ’99 Paris, ’02 Rome, ’02 Madrid

Roger Federer (6) 4
'02 & '04 Hamburg, '04-05 Indian Wells, '04 Toronto, ’05 Miami

Gustavo Kuerten (5) 4
’99 & ‘01 Monte-Carlo, ’99 Rome, ’00 Hamburg, ’01 Cincinnati

Marat Safin (5) 3
'00 Montreal/Toronto, '00, '02, '04 Paris, '04 Madrid

Juan Carlos Ferrero (4) 3
‘01 Rome, ‘02 & ‘03 Monte-Carlo, ‘03 Madrid

Thomas Enqvist (3) 3
‘00 Cincinnati, ‘99 Stuttgart, ‘96 Paris

Carlos Moya (3) 3
'98 Monte-Carlo, '02 Cincinnati, '04 Rome

Andy Roddick (3) 3
'03 Montreal, '03 Cincinnati, '04 Miami

deliveryman
04-05-2005, 03:39 AM
I honestly can't see how someone couldn't put Roger Federer as the favorite to win any tournament he enters... Regardless of the surface. You guys act like he's Andy Roddick on clay. He did win Hamburg, twice, remember?