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I like Tim Henman

Fumus
03-31-2005, 08:02 PM
I am watching the match with Federer and Tim now (Miami 05') and I truely do enjoy watching Tim play. After I watched TMC uncovered II, I realized that he has a great personality and a wonderful outlook at life. So...go TIMMY!! :)

p.s.
Anyone think Tim's groundies and ROS are under rated?

Dirk
03-31-2005, 08:05 PM
Groundies have gotten better since being with Paul. Return has always been good. Really a shame he never got this good in his prime years. A little too late for him but still a nice career.

BelgianWaffle
03-31-2005, 08:08 PM
I haven't seen Henman play a lot but I have to say I like his personality a lot, he seems like a very nice guy in interviews etc :)

Fumus
03-31-2005, 08:09 PM
Groundies have gotten better since being with Paul. Return has always been good. Really a shame he never got this good in his prime years. A little too late for him but still a nice career.

Yea, he's been around forever, really to be a contender he needs a better serve. Though, he did make the semis of RG and push Coria to the limit. So he really can do it everywhere. Who knows he could still win RG, Wimbly, or USO when Tim vollies are hot he can beat anyone.

euroka1
03-31-2005, 08:10 PM
Great spectator tennis there in Federer-Henman

Fumus
03-31-2005, 08:11 PM
Great spectator tennis there in Federer-Henman

haha...yea it's like a DC atmosphere.

MisterQ
03-31-2005, 08:12 PM
He's one of my favorite players to watch. :yeah:

J. Corwin
03-31-2005, 08:12 PM
p.s.
Anyone think Tim's groundies and ROS are under rated?

I was just thinking the same thing watchin the match. His forehand, especially, is underrated me thinks. He took the ball really early and hit some awesome forehands that even Fed couldn't get to. :)

Fumus
03-31-2005, 08:13 PM
That's it F.Lo is out, I am putting in Tiger Tim.

J. Corwin
03-31-2005, 08:15 PM
Where's the lefty love? :hearts:

In_Disguise
03-31-2005, 08:15 PM
Tim Henman is a great player, a player who's been in the top 10 - top 20 every year since '96 really deserves a lot of credit. There have been players ranked higher and were better players in their prime but not many have had the longevity Henman has shown over the years. He may never win a grand slam, but TH is a great player!

Dirk
03-31-2005, 08:15 PM
Tim won't win RG or Wimbly or any major. He might win a few more titles but he won't win big titles.

Fumus
03-31-2005, 08:16 PM
Tim won't win RG or Wimbly or any major. He might win a few more titles but he won't win big titles.

*chant* Henman...Henman...Henman*chant*

Who is this amatuer he is playing anyways?

Dirk
03-31-2005, 08:18 PM
Roger looking great. I know that pains you to say it Fummy. Nice easy win for the Ninja today. :worship:

Angle Queen
03-31-2005, 08:26 PM
A classic...and classy guy.

Welcome, Fumus, to the land of frustration though. You've only one Wimby to go through with TT...to understand.

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 08:27 PM
Go Tim.

adeegee
03-31-2005, 08:41 PM
I didn't used to like Tim but he's got me on his side now. He's a genuinely good guy and I wish him all the success in the world, unfortunately I just think he's missed his chances 2000-2003 to win a Grand Slam. There's too many good younger players around for him to win a Slam I feel, he'd probably have to beat 2 or 3 out of Federer, Roddick, Safin, Hewitt, Coria, Nalbandian etc and I'm just not sure he's consistent enough. I hope he proves me wrong.

His return of serve has always been good, he has very good feel, thats why he often gives Roddick problems. He is without doubt the best volleyer in the world, his groundies are a little too inconsistent for my liking. His serve isn't as bad as everyone makes out, he uses it to set up easy volleys quite a lot of the time and can get up to around 130mph when his shoulder is ok. His 2nd serve isn't great though, and he's prone to a double on some big points.

NYCtennisfan
03-31-2005, 08:49 PM
I've always liked Tim. What a class guy. He just never could get over the hump at Wimby and now it is too late in all likelihood.

Sjengster
03-31-2005, 09:25 PM
The problem with Henman is that he's been either overrated or underrated by the British media throughout his career, no one ever gets it right. Some journalists and the British public seem to think he owes them a victory in every tournament and that every player should just roll over and die when facing him, and then when he does lose he is suddenly the worst player ever to pick up a racket. The reason why there's such a negative backlash against him is that every year going into Wimbledon he is bracketed alongside Sampras/Agassi/Hewitt/Federer/Roddick as one of the Top 5 contenders for the title and is judged entirely on his success or failure at SW19. I'll wager hardly anyone outside tennis fandom knows or cares about his achievements away from Wimbledon.

Back to the match, it's become abundantly clear that Henman's strengths do not worry Federer on an outdoor surface. Zabaleta had stronger groundstrokes, Ancic a bigger serve, and Federer was playing much worse in those two matches - those are the reasons why they were tight. Henman's serve doesn't really intimidate Federer, and when he's under pressure at the back of the court he can come up with forehand passes like that one he made at full stretch on the forehand side early in the second set. And that's to say nothing of the second serves he hit on big points... It's all very well Henman declaring that he takes Federer's time away from him, but that's much easier to do indoors when your shots have more penetration. Federer barely even broke sweat today.

holagirl56
03-31-2005, 09:29 PM
Groundies have gotten better since being with Paul. Return has always been good. Really a shame he never got this good in his prime years. A little too late for him but still a nice career.

It's never too late for Timbledon. ;)

Tim's a great guy with a great personality. His press conferences are always amusing.

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 09:30 PM
Is Tim Gonna call it quits soon..he is 30 or almost.

Sjengster
03-31-2005, 09:32 PM
31 this September. I see him carrying on at least until the end of next year, possibly the year after that. It all depends on how his body holds up - back in 2002 he said he had six more chances to win Wimbledon, including that year, so he's already used up three of them and I worry that this back problem will become a persistent career-ending injury.

wolfie
03-31-2005, 09:32 PM
I hope he doesn't retire soon. He's a really nice guy. Classy, funny, british. All around good chap.

NATAS81
03-31-2005, 09:37 PM
Why should Henman quit when he's been a consistant Top 10-20 player for so many years? Like Andre, as long as you're successful, going deep into tournaments, and hanging around the top of the rankings, do it as long as you can if you enjoy the game.

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 09:39 PM
As long as he does not play Ljubo(won last 4). He can play for while :)

holagirl56
03-31-2005, 09:42 PM
Is Tim Gonna call it quits soon..he is 30 or almost.

Agassi hasn't quit yet.

And why should Tim? He's still producing consistent results tournament after tournament.

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 09:44 PM
not saying that he should...but normal age for tennis players is 28-30

MissMoJo
03-31-2005, 09:45 PM
It was always heartbreaking to see him lose the Wimby semi or final all those years to Pete....and now to Rogi or some other young gun. Barring extraordinary circumstances, a Wimby title won't happen. In any case, i hope he sticks around for a while, he's always been one of my favorites and it's really great to see him still playing well.

Fumus
03-31-2005, 10:07 PM
Yea, Timmy is great how many masters does he have?

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 10:10 PM
Yea, Timmy is great how many masters does he have?

2003--Paris TMS

adeegee
03-31-2005, 10:13 PM
2003--Paris TMS

I think he deserves more recognition for that.

R64 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS ) 44 6-3 6-4
R32 Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA ) 10 3-6 6-4 7-5
R16 Kuerten, Gustavo (BRA ) 15 6-4 6-2
Q Federer, Roger (SUI ) 3 7-6(5) 6-1
S Roddick, Andy (USA ) 2 7-6(4) 7-6(7)
W Pavel, Andrei (ROM ) 134 6-2 7-6(6) 7-6(2)

Could he have had a harder route? Only Willy Canas in Toronto 02 could argue he earned it more

R64 Federer, Roger (SUI ) 7 7-6(10) 7-5
R32 Srichaphan, Paradorn (THA ) 57 6-2 6-1
R16 Kafelnikov, Yevgeny (RUS ) 23 6-2 6-2
Q Safin, Marat (RUS ) 2 7-5 6-3
S Haas, Tommy (GER ) 10 6-4 3-6 7-6(5)
W Roddick, Andy (USA ) 15 6-4 7-5

liptea
03-31-2005, 10:26 PM
*chant* Henman...Henman...Henman*chant*

Who is this amatuer he is playing anyways?

I think that we need to start "The MTF fund to pay off Tim's competitors at Wimbledon so that he'll win."

But maybe he'll win anyway.

Fumus
03-31-2005, 10:27 PM
ok, I will donate all my vcash..lol

PaulieM
03-31-2005, 10:30 PM
i love tim, he used to bother me a bit but he seems really nice and i like his game, plus i feel sorry for him that he's never won a major. i would love to see him win one before he retires. :hug:

adeegee
03-31-2005, 10:33 PM
Was anyone in the UK watching the Henman match, when they asked Barry Cowan about whether he thought Henman could win Wimbledon. His response was so ridiculous it was funny.

"Maybe Tim will get a nice draw. Then maybe Roddick, Hewitt and Safin could go out early. Then maybe Tim will have a nice route to the final. Then maybe it'll be a very windy day and he could beat Federer." About as likely as Carla Coria would be said no to by me :p

NATAS81
03-31-2005, 10:35 PM
They should have a giant fan on the Wimbledon court Tim is playing on and blow it towards and side of his opponent.

Sjengster
03-31-2005, 10:38 PM
It doesn't exactly fill one with hope, but I'm glad that Bazza was realistic about his analysis from beginning to end - he said Federer was the favourite, he said Henman would have to play at a very high level, he was honest enough afterwards to say that Henman donated too many service games where other great attacking players wouldn't have, and he was also honest in pointing out that the biggest hindrance to Henman's Wimbledon hopes isn't his "choking", but his lack of a killer shot to put tough opposition away.

Sjengster
03-31-2005, 10:42 PM
They should have a giant fan on the Wimbledon court Tim is playing on and blow it towards and side of his opponent.

It wouldn't work. Either the shouts of "Come on Tim!" from the crowd would get so loud that the sonic sound waves would counteract the blast of air from the fan, or else it'd be sod's law that Henman would come out to serve for the match from the end facing the fan and lose his serve to love because his ball toss wouldn't be quite where he wanted it.

NATAS81
03-31-2005, 10:44 PM
It'd be sod's law that Henman would come out to serve for the match from the end facing the fan and lose his serve to love because his ball toss wouldn't be quite where he wanted it.
There are no laws. The Queen would apprehend those who go against the fan. The fan is not in play.

adeegee
03-31-2005, 10:46 PM
It doesn't exactly fill one with hope, but I'm glad that Bazza was realistic about his analysis from beginning to end - he said Federer was the favourite, he said Henman would have to play at a very high level, he was honest enough afterwards to say that Henman donated too many service games where other great attacking players wouldn't have, and he was also honest in pointing out that the biggest hindrance to Henman's Wimbledon hopes isn't his "choking", but his lack of a killer shot to put tough opposition away.

What's your opinion on sky's commentary?

Cowan - I like he's indeed quite honest and quite funny
Petchey - He's got his critics but I think he's great, he cracks me up.
Threlfall - I can't stand the man, his voice annoys me and he's so unnecessarily critical
Shirus - A bit annoying
Flemming - Knowledgable, but a bit odd I find

mandoura
03-31-2005, 10:48 PM
Why should Henman quit when he's been a consistant Top 10-20 player for so many years? Like Andre, as long as you're successful, going deep into tournaments, and hanging around the top of the rankings, do it as long as you can if you enjoy the game.

Tell them Nat. :yeah:

Sjengster
03-31-2005, 10:57 PM
Cowan - his grasp of the English language is undoubtably poor, but as an analyst he grows every time I see him. I've got an old tape of the Miami 02 Federer v Hewitt match, that tournament being the first time he joined Sky, and he was incredibly wooden. He couldn't use the players' surnames, it had to be "Lleyton Hewitt found it tough going, but even if Lleyton Hewitt got back into it Roger Federer would still have won, the way Roger Federer was playing." Maybe marriage has matured him.
Petch - the master. The reality is, he's the most opinionated and insightful of the Sky team and he always comes up with something interesting, whether he's in the studio or commentating. You really get the sense that this is someone who cares about tennis and understands the nuances of the game.
Threlfall - "Ah, it's setpoint. No, it's not, it's breakpoint. Actually, it's matchpoint. No, it IS setpoint..." Some worthwhile comments at times, but I think it's time he was put out to pasture.
Shiras - a pretty good blend of American and British styles of commentating, I read a little interview with him once and he said he's been somewhat influenced by the British style of less is more. Certainly enthusiastic, and he always emphasises the value of getting that first serve in the box, even when talking about players who are best on red claycourts.
Fleming - the quiet man of commentary becomes the smart-talking wisecracker when he's in the studio, I love the way he mocks out Chris Bailey's idiocy. "Campo Centrale, did that sound all right?" "Why Bails, that's wonderful! You could almost pass for an Italiano!" And when he does get into matches as a commentator, he's got the same New York sass and attitude as his erstwhile former doubles partner.

Clara Bow
03-31-2005, 11:50 PM
I have always liked Tim- but have become increasingly charmed by him over the past couple of years to where he is one of my favorites. He just has a sweet, laid back and funny personality.

I do hope against the odds that he will win a major before he retires. He has been a consistent player for so many years, while playing an increasingly rare style.

Smankyou
04-01-2005, 12:30 AM
He's a consistent player. Timbo's the man.

bad gambler
04-01-2005, 12:31 AM
i'm indifferent towards my feelings of timothy

Smankyou
04-01-2005, 12:40 AM
Start differentiating, soldier.

Corey Feldman
04-01-2005, 01:24 AM
Good effort lately Tim..
back too back TMS qf's...not bad for an old fart :yeah:

Fumus
04-01-2005, 04:03 PM
Everyone loves Tim.

gooner88
04-01-2005, 06:38 PM
Tim's had a good career, solid but unspectacular.
To be consistently ranked inside the top 10 is a great achievement.
His best chance to wim a slam came at Wimbledon in 2001. If it wasn't for the rain in the semi against Goran, I'm +ive he would have won :(

Fumus
04-01-2005, 07:04 PM
Are you +ive...lol...

Aleksa's Laydee
04-01-2005, 07:09 PM
I haven't seen Henman play a lot but I have to say I like his personality a lot, he seems like a very nice guy in interviews etc :)

omg hes the complete opposite off camera!

Aleksa's Laydee
04-01-2005, 07:09 PM
Everyone loves Tim.

No no noooo they dont ;) get your facts right!!

Aleksa's Laydee
04-01-2005, 07:11 PM
What's your opinion on sky's commentary?

Cowan - I like he's indeed quite honest and quite funny
Petchey - He's got his critics but I think he's great, he cracks me up.
Threlfall - I can't stand the man, his voice annoys me and he's so unnecessarily critical
Shirus - A bit annoying
Flemming - Knowledgable, but a bit odd I find

Cowan...a div and should get out of tim and federers butt
Petchey...not bad, can be found up henmans butt
Threlfall...bless him, hes alright
Shirus...sooo funny
Flemming...Funny and arrogant

adeegee
04-02-2005, 01:07 AM
Cowan...a div and should get out of tim and federers butt
Petchey...not bad, can be found up henmans butt
Threlfall...bless him, hes alright
Shirus...sooo funny
Flemming...Funny and arrogant

:haha: the complete opposite to me. Petchey is so much funnier than Shirus or Flemming!

tennischick
04-02-2005, 05:49 AM
...After I watched TMC uncovered II, I realized that he has a great personality and a wonderful outlook at life. So...go TIMMY!! :) ...
i've watched this documentary a couple of times now and each time i come away with more affection for SnaggleTooth. he's a sweetie. and i was thrilled to hear him say that he will be around for a while. :worship: