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Do you find Roger arrogant?

syd
03-31-2005, 07:46 AM
From a journalist:
".................With confidence bordering on arrogance, the Swiss is of late taking a page out of Serena Williams' book.................."

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 07:46 AM
Go Roger.

tennisman.
03-31-2005, 07:50 AM
No. He is just better than anyone else,and he knows it

~EMiLiTA~
03-31-2005, 07:59 AM
maybe a little, but i don't think it's bad, maybe it's not even arrogance, just more self-confidence which just comes from being the best...i think he's a great #1 though...good role model...

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 08:01 AM
"With confidence bordering on arrogance": it sums up well his attitude, and if we take the Williams standard, he's really far from being arrogant. When Venus says her comeback to number 1 is "a given", or Serena says people think she's still number 1, it's not arrogance anymore, it's just hilarious. I don't think Fed will ever reach that level, while he's doing things pretty amazing... should be tough to keep humble when you are dominating so much and, in addition, you're a cool guy. Dominating guys are often a bit arrogant, Lendl was arrogant as well, Connors too The two dominating players that were not too arrogant were Borg and Sampras I think, but they were much more introvert than Fed.
;)

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 08:04 AM
Sampras wasn't arrogant that is one of the funniest things you have said mdhubert among many.

Ferrero Forever
03-31-2005, 08:07 AM
how is roger arrogant? he seems so lovely in interviews, he always gives credit to his opponent, and he never underestimates him. He's very modest. Gotta love him.

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 08:08 AM
Sampras wasn't arrogant that is one of the funniest things you have said mdhubert among many.
maybe his attitude but not that much in his words, don't you think ? Thanks, I'm a funny guy ... :devil:

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 08:10 AM
maybe his attitude but not that much in his words, don't you think ? Thanks, I'm a funny guy ... :devil:

Just ask Rafter, Muster ( an arrogant guy) or the fans of DC.

As for Roger being arrogant I don't think so, he could be worse than he is.

lsy
03-31-2005, 08:11 AM
Another Federer's thread...not started by the Fed "freaks".

yes, he's so arrogant and full of himself that's why his peers voted him for the Sportsmanship award.

For a quote from one journalist you mentioned, I can quote you dozen others who said he's still the same down to earth guy he is all these while.

But of course people will always be doing selective reading and that's normal.

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 08:13 AM
Just ask Rafter, Muster ( an arrogant guy) or the fans of DC.

As for Roger being arrogant I don't think so, he could be worse than he is.
Yep, I know for the Rafter stuff, but a few things here and there within such a career, he could be tired at times, and when you reach 10+ slams you can get upset at some stupid journalist questions I guess... no big deal.
What happened with Muster ?
;)

mandoura
03-31-2005, 08:17 AM
No, I don't think he is arrogant at all. In interviews, he says it as it is, always giving his opponent fair dues. When he plays bad, he admits it and when he plays great he "fantastic" it. He is just sharing his emotions genuinely as they are with his fans, without any editing or exageration.

I think he is a nice decent boy.

Auscon
03-31-2005, 08:22 AM
He's supremely confident, but I think he's pretty careful to not let that turn into, or appear to be, arrogance

Mrs. B
03-31-2005, 08:22 AM
Another Federer's thread...not started by the Fed "freaks".

yes, he's so arrogant and full of himself that's why his peers voted him for the Sportsmanship award.

For a quote from one journalist you mentioned, I can quote you dozen others who said he's still the same down to earth guy he is all these while.

But of course people will always be doing selective reading and that's normal.

you said it, lsy!
even Tim Henman can attest to his arrogance. :p

Auscon
03-31-2005, 08:25 AM
The two dominating players that were not too arrogant were Borg and Sampras I think, but they were much more introvert than Fed.
;)

I dont know about Borg, but I always thought Sampras had shown arrogance at times

Purple Rainbow
03-31-2005, 08:27 AM
Of course he isn't arrogant. Now don't go whining about the number of Federer threads in the GM anyone, it wasn't a Fed fan who started this one!

onion
03-31-2005, 08:33 AM
He's clearly the best player in the competition by far, at the moment. I suppose when you're winning everything and mega-rich because of it, you kinda get an inkling of how good you are.

However, I think his comments about Andre Agassi at the Aus Open earlier this year, were really disrespectful and that's what made me think, "hmm...that's just something you DON'T say." I agree, yes, he is a better player than Andre at the moment (that is why he won), but he should have paid more respect to Andre by not coming out and saying it. What makes it worse, is that Andre is a champion - I just found it quite rude and just a little bit arrogant.

WyveN
03-31-2005, 08:36 AM
compared to the average top player, no. Maybe in the future if Roger keeps this up.

MariaV
03-31-2005, 08:42 AM
IMO he'd have every right to be arrogant. It's actually quite surprising he's stayed down-to-earth as he is. Gee, when he is playing fantastic tennis - is he supposed to say no, I wasn't playing well or smth. :worship: :worship: :worship:

Puschkin
03-31-2005, 08:48 AM
The line between arrogance and self-confidence is a thin one and people have different views when this line is crossed.

To answer the question: Yes, I think he is arrogant at occasions and he has every right to be, as long as the word match the deeds. I go even further: It suits him well. False modesty and faked humility are much worse and now GHW, you can come down on me again ;)

MariaV
03-31-2005, 08:51 AM
I totally agree! False modesty and faking would be much worse.

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 08:53 AM
I totally agree! False modesty and faking would be much worse.
Yeah but too much arrogance leads also to lack of credibility, cf Williams sisters...

MariaV
03-31-2005, 08:56 AM
However, I think his comments about Andre Agassi at the Aus Open earlier this year, were really disrespectful and that's what made me think, "hmm...that's just something you DON'T say." I agree, yes, he is a better player than Andre at the moment (that is why he won), but he should have paid more respect to Andre by not coming out and saying it. What makes it worse, is that Andre is a champion - I just found it quite rude and just a little bit arrogant.

Naah, I can forgive him the comment about Agassi, I don't think he wanted to sound rude, he was just telling how he saw the situation.

MariaV
03-31-2005, 08:59 AM
Yeah but too much arrogance leads also to lack of credibility, cf Williams sisters...

:lol: Don't think he'll ever reach the Williams level, he has just totally different character.

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 08:59 AM
I'm willing to cut Roger a lot of slack, because often his words are cited out of context and also he's not a native English speaker. But he does seem smug sometimes.

Does he have a right to be? Of course, every right in the world. But it's still off-putting.

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 09:00 AM
I totally agree! False modesty and faking would be much worse.Modesty doesn't have to be false though.

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 09:10 AM
People can't win when there is false modesty, then someone answers a question honestly, then they are too arrogant.

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 09:11 AM
He's the best..maybe ever..... Now someone who is not the best and wont be while Roger is around is arrogant (roddick):)

CooCooCachoo
03-31-2005, 09:14 AM
He's become a little arrogant throughout the years, but he was soooo down-to-earth in his early years that it is almost impossible to remain that way. Plus the slightest bit of arrogance he does have is understandable ;)

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 09:15 AM
HYDE: No room for ego at the top
Published March 25, 2005
"Roger Federer should be embarrassed at being the No. 1 player in tennis. Just look at him. He has no agent, no publicist, no security guard, not even a coach for the TV cameras to focus on.
His entire entourage typically consists of two people -- his girlfriend and trainer. That's it. You call this the world's top tennis player?
And ego? Doesn't No. 1 come with a let-net full of that?
Well, earlier this week, at the Nasdaq-100's pro-am day, Federer didn't call a limo or even a golf cart to ferry him across the tournament grounds to his match in the way tennis heavyweights always do.
He walked. Alone. Amid gawking fans.
"Isn't that ...?"
"Why's he ...?
Mr. No. 1 In The World even stopped and autographed for whoever asked.
"I don't need special treatment," Federer explained"
:worship:

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 09:16 AM
People can't win when there is false modesty, then someone answers a question honestly, then they are too arrogant.George, Roger's in the spotlight now. Someone's always going to be upset with him. Comes with the territory.

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 09:17 AM
George, Roger's in the spotlight now. Someone's always going to be upset with him. Comes with the territory.

I know that, but I mean he could be Connnors arrogant that'd be shocking.

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 09:23 AM
I know that, but I mean he could be Connnors arrogant that'd be shocking.
Good thing Connors was before my time. I'd want to strangle him.

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 09:26 AM
Good thing Connors was before my time. I'd want to strangle him.

He was the kind of bloke that needed to be punched.

jtipson
03-31-2005, 09:29 AM
I'm willing to cut Roger a lot of slack, because often his words are cited out of context and also he's not a native English speaker. But he does seem smug sometimes.

Does he have a right to be? Of course, every right in the world. But it's still off-putting.


I don't think anything gives anyone the right to be arrogant, full stop. Confident, sure. Arrogant, never.

As Puschkin has said though, it's a fine line between confidence and arrogance and Roger does get too close to it sometimes. (Not in the AO case about Agassi though I don't think, he was merely reacting to a silly question.)

But I do agree that a lot of the problem is that his words are cited out of context by journos just wanted to create a headline (nothing new of course). His German linguistic background does give him the tendency to express words in a more matter-of-fact way than would be normal for a native English speaker. It always helps to see his interviews rather than read them, but unfortunately we don't often get the chance.

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 09:35 AM
I don't think anything gives anyone the right to be arrogant, full stop. Confident, sure. Arrogant, never.

As Puschkin has said though, it's a fine line between confidence and arrogance and Roger does get too close to it sometimes. (Not in the AO case about Agassi though I don't think, he was merely reacting to a silly question.)

But I do agree that a lot of the problem is that his words are cited out of context by journos just wanted to create a headline (nothing new of course). His German linguistic background does give him the tendency to express words in a more matter-of-fact way than would be normal for a native English speaker. It always helps to see his interviews rather than read them, but unfortunately we don't often get the chance.
I'm with you on this one.
And thinking about it, even Borg and Pete were arrogant at times, so it seems tough not to be.
But let's make the difference between arrogant attitude in general, like Sharapova who doesn't give a shit on what is not related to her little person, and a few arrogant quotes that happen to a lot of people at the end, and even more to dominating-their-field-public-people...

Ruski
03-31-2005, 09:39 AM
No. Roger is a classy gentleman! :yeah:
Please don't compare him to Serena Williams, that's inappropriate! :rolleyes:
Serena loves to get the attention all the time with her dramatic but bad fashion taste! :P

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 09:59 AM
No. Roger is a classy gentleman! :yeah:
Please don't compare him to Serena Williams, that's inappropriate! :rolleyes:
I think that's a massive double standart right here. When Serena was dominating the WTA, people were flaying her alive for every stupid, haughty thing she said (and rightly so, though it also could be said that she was being confident, not arrogant). Roger is more mellow and diplomatic in his demeanor, but essentially it's very much the same.

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 10:10 AM
I think that's a massive double standart right here. When Serena was dominating the WTA, people were flaying her alive for every stupid, haughty thing she said (and rightly so, though it also could be said that she was being confident, not arrogant). Roger is more mellow and diplomatic in his demeanor, but essentially it's very much the same.
WHAAAAAAT ???
I have started to realize that I am really just a world athlete and a world entertainer -- I am a world-known person, I am a global icon."
-- Serena Williams speaking to the Khaleej Times in Dubai.
"I'm an unbelievable designer. I don't know how I know and just do these things. I just start sketching and then I just know the colors and I always know the forecast. I know green and purple are going to be hot. I was born to be a designer. I worked hard to be a tennis player, I don't work hard to be a designer."
"I'm excited because I haven't won a title since March and that's not like me."
-- Serena Williams after winning the Beijing title.
"I'm an actress, model and athlete, and I'd put athlete third on the list."
-- Serena Williams
All I want is to have fun in what I'm doing every day. I don't want to break records. To become the greatest player ever could take me like...10 more years and I don't think I'll still be playing at 31." -- Serena Williams on pressure to become the greatest.

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 10:13 AM
WHAAAAAAT ???Read carefully, I said "when Serena was dominating the WTA".

MATTHIAS
03-31-2005, 10:15 AM
fans will call it self-confidence

Art&Soul
03-31-2005, 10:34 AM
Yeah he is very arrogant and no one can compare to him that' why Tim Henman said about him "You know, I think for a guy that's achieved so much, you know, he's so down‑to‑Earth."
Do you get it, some jealous haters?

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 10:53 AM
Yeah he is very arrogant and no one can compare to him that' why Tim Henman said about him "You know, I think for a guy that's achieved so much, you know, he's so down?to?Earth."
Do you get it, some jealous haters?Of course, everyone who suggests that Roger's not the very pinnacle of humanity is authomatically a hater.

:rolleyes:

Puschkin
03-31-2005, 11:08 AM
Of course, everyone who suggests that Roger's not the very pinnacle of humanity is authomatically a hater.


I have no problems with that. Roger is not the very pinnacle of humanity and "honest" modesty is certainly not a trait of character personified in Roger Federer, even if he is quite capable in making people believe that. I don't ;) .

syd
03-31-2005, 11:18 AM
Of course he isn't arrogant. Now don't go whining about the number of Federer threads in the GM anyone, it wasn't a Fed fan who started this one!
you're right , I'm not a Fed fan but i really appreciate his game,
I started this thread because i've got a friend who repeated me oftenly that he was becoming arrogant. i just want to have opinions about it .
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

MariaV
03-31-2005, 11:21 AM
Hi syd, another qoute from Marat about Roger you can tell your friend:

...Safin admired the way Federer responded in defeat. "If you are a loser, you have to accept that somebody beat you and that somebody beat you fairly, and show your face," Safin said. "And he did. He looked in the eyes. It's very important for people to look in the eyes after they finish the match."

That doesn't always happen. Safin used a colorful expletive to describe what he thought of players who look away and offer a half-hearted handshake."It shouldn't be this way," he said. "Whenever you lose, whatever, 'Well done.'

Rex
03-31-2005, 11:29 AM
not arrogent- just too good, and knows it. he doesn't stride like he is the best andalways will be- i think he has a humble character, but i have never met him so i dont know for sure.

TheMightyFed
03-31-2005, 11:42 AM
Read carefully, I said "when Serena was dominating the WTA".
but it's even worse for her to be arrogant now !!

syd
03-31-2005, 11:51 AM
...Safin admired the way Federer responded in defeat. "If you are a loser, you have to accept that somebody beat you and that somebody beat you fairly, and show your face," Safin said. "And he did. He looked in the eyes. It's very important for people to look in the eyes after they finish the match."

That doesn't always happen. Safin used a colorful expletive to describe what he thought of players who look away and offer a half-hearted handshake."It shouldn't be this way," he said. "Whenever you lose, whatever, 'Well done.'
Thanks
I'm gonna show it to my friend but knowing her very well, i don' think she change her opinion !

wimbledonfan
03-31-2005, 11:56 AM
A couple years ago , if you had told me who I thought was more arrogant between Andy or Roger , I would have said Andy , now if you ask me the same question its probably Roger who has shown more arrogance . I think he needs someone to put him in his place and see what kind of person he really is .

MariaV
03-31-2005, 12:02 PM
Naah, we will see this when Fed the God will start losing some day.... far far away. I mean not that he can't lose 1 match soon (it's inevitably coming), I mean when he'll start losing some more.

adelaide
03-31-2005, 12:13 PM
sometimes he can be, but can you blame him? ....

syd
03-31-2005, 12:20 PM
28 finds him arrogant & 29 not !!
So he is certainly become a little bit arrogant !!

~EMiLiTA~
03-31-2005, 12:22 PM
HYDE: No room for ego at the top
Published March 25, 2005
"Roger Federer should be embarrassed at being the No. 1 player in tennis. Just look at him. He has no agent, no publicist, no security guard, not even a coach for the TV cameras to focus on.
His entire entourage typically consists of two people -- his girlfriend and trainer. That's it. You call this the world's top tennis player?
And ego? Doesn't No. 1 come with a let-net full of that?
Well, earlier this week, at the Nasdaq-100's pro-am day, Federer didn't call a limo or even a golf cart to ferry him across the tournament grounds to his match in the way tennis heavyweights always do.
He walked. Alone. Amid gawking fans.
"Isn't that ...?"
"Why's he ...?
Mr. No. 1 In The World even stopped and autographed for whoever asked.
"I don't need special treatment," Federer explained"
:worship:

good to see :yeah:

onewoman74
03-31-2005, 12:48 PM
A confident player...that's about it!!! Take it or leave it...might I add a very sexy trait!

joske
03-31-2005, 12:51 PM
yup, confident's the right word

I couldn't understand why anyone would say Roger's arrogant... he isn't anywhere near arrogance (and I don't even like Roger so me defending him means that this journalist knows bullocks) :lol:

Neely
03-31-2005, 12:56 PM
No, wouldn't say that Roger himself is arrogant. For all the success he had and for all his easy wins I think there would be much more other players who would be worse.

foul_dwimmerlaik
03-31-2005, 12:56 PM
but it's even worse for her to be arrogant now !!Now it's just ludicrous.

Kristen
03-31-2005, 01:16 PM
no way jose ;)
But who/what would we be comparing him to? I can think of a couple ;)

alexito
03-31-2005, 01:26 PM
yesssssssssss, so much

Seraphim
03-31-2005, 03:30 PM
I truly believe some of you don't know the definition of the word "Arrogant". I think some of you believe that just because it's a big word often used, it's the "correct" word to use, and it isn't.

Her's what I think should be done

1- Make sure you get a full transcript (NOT A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE, AS THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE SOURCES, BUT LONG ARTICULATED OPINIONS OF THE HEADLINE/STORY BY THE WRITER.) of any statement by Roger Federer in question.

2- Highlight the comment made by R.F. from the posted full transcript and apply the ENTIRE meaning/definition of the word to the statement.


**From the Webster's Dictionary**

A) Arrogant - (adjective) exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance in an overbearing manner.

B) Arrogance - (noun) a feeling or an impression of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or presumptuous claims.

Ready, set, GO!

PaulieM
03-31-2005, 04:16 PM
He's clearly the best player in the competition by far, at the moment. I suppose when you're winning everything and mega-rich because of it, you kinda get an inkling of how good you are.

However, I think his comments about Andre Agassi at the Aus Open earlier this year, were really disrespectful and that's what made me think, "hmm...that's just something you DON'T say." I agree, yes, he is a better player than Andre at the moment (that is why he won), but he should have paid more respect to Andre by not coming out and saying it. What makes it worse, is that Andre is a champion - I just found it quite rude and just a little bit arrogant.
i didn't think those comments were disrespectful at all, he said that it's always tough to play andre but he was just stating facts. he's the most dominant player at the time, defending champ, had beaten agassi the past 4 times. people were acting like he was the underdog in that match, i would have been frustrated too if someone has asked me how i was going to raise my game to beat him, it was clear in that situation that that question would better have been directed at agassi. yes agassi is a great player, and great champion but they needed to face the facts, andre was the underdog in that match.

alfonsojose
03-31-2005, 04:20 PM
a sad WTAhell.com-like thread :shrug:

Scotso
03-31-2005, 04:23 PM
Of course he is a little arrogant, anyone that good would be.

NATAS81
03-31-2005, 04:24 PM
Not arrogant. Self confident. You need that to prevail.

I'd be hard pressed to find anyone that can conjure up a good explanation as to how he's arrogant.

Exodus
03-31-2005, 04:25 PM
yupp he's a little arrogant but who wouldn't be? just look how arrogant Hewitt and Roddick were when they were no.1

tangerine_dream
03-31-2005, 05:10 PM
It's unfortunate that the word "arrogant" always has to have a negative connotation to it. All top players are arrogant to some degree. Some wear theirs on their sleeve more than others. Top players need this belief in themselves to get to the top and stay there.

Being arrogant (ie, confident in your abilities) is not the same as being a jerk, mind you. I voted that Roger is arrogant. But he's not a jerk in any way.

paige
03-31-2005, 05:13 PM
Nope, not at all.

I find him refreshing.

He has to talk about himself. Constantly. He does a very impressive job of it -- considering how dominant he has been.

paige
03-31-2005, 05:15 PM
It's unfortunate that the word "arrogant" always has to have a negative connotation to it. All top players are arrogant to some degree. Some wear theirs on their sleeve more than others. Top players need this belief in themselves to get to the top and stay there.

Being arrogant (ie, confident in your abilities) is not the same as being a jerk, mind you. I voted that Roger is arrogant. But he's not a jerk in any way.

That's a good point.

Since I think the poll was based on the negative connotation, I went with no.

I agree their job by nature requires arrogance under the tangy def. It can not be avoided. You can't say I suck, I can't do it anymore, I can't beat Roger if you're not Roger. And you can't say I didn't win if you are him.

NYCtennisfan
03-31-2005, 06:43 PM
He has definitely become borderline arrogant but not annoyingly so like the Williams sisters. But how can one help this? This is human nature. The man has won 90-something out of his last 100-something matches He plays tennis so beautifully that people ask what is wrong when he hits more errors and winners (a common thing on tour for anyone other than Roger). He can beat anyone on any surface anywhere. Wouldn't this make anyone arrogant? Was Michael Jordan arrogant? Hell yes he was but he was also the best.

And yes, Sampras was arrogant. He stated many times that when he played his best, nobody could beat him and he was right (unless you count Richard Kraijcek of course:))

Exodus
03-31-2005, 06:58 PM
Maybe he is a little arrogant these days but so what? You remember how Hewitt was when he was no.1 he was such a jerk, he still is sometimes

euroka1
03-31-2005, 07:00 PM
I can even like Andy Roddick when he plays decent tennis.

Marine
03-31-2005, 07:41 PM
Not at all. He can't say he's not talentuous, he knows that, when he's in greta form he can beat everybody, that's true.

ca1houn
03-31-2005, 07:59 PM
I don’t think Federer is arrogant at all. With respect to Agassi he was aggravated by that some stupid journalist question and for that moment in time lose his ability to sugar coat his opinion. We as American are very politically correct and most of us would has said it differently however European lack this ability because they don't have to put with being could all sort of ism.
P.S Just remember what the journalist asked
Q. You possibly might have to play Agassi next. Assuming you do play Agassi, do you think your game at the moment, you're at a level to beat him, considering how well he played the other night?
this reporter asking Roger Federer, the number #1 player in the world, who at the time did not lose a single game since August, who won 11 tournaments last year, including three of the four Grand Slams, and, most importantly, who beat Andre Agassi in their last four meetings, this question! With this question he implied that Roger's game wasn't on the same level with Andre's, and, by saying how well Andre played, further implied that Roger wasn't playing well at the moment.

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 08:28 PM
Go Roger.

mangoes
03-31-2005, 08:37 PM
I think it wasn't nice of that reporter to write something so horrible. Roger is confident, yet still respectful of his fellow peers. I believe that Andre threw the first stone in AO by suggesting that Roger needed to come show him why he was no. 1. I like Andre, but he got a very deserving response from Roger at the AO. Nevertheless, I think it sad that when someone starts achieving a lot in his career, something so nasty has to be written by a reporter who is probably seeking, unsuccessfully, similar achievements in his career. It is disappointing that this reporter tries to further his career by ripping apart, not only one player, but two very successful players.

Turkeyballs Paco
03-31-2005, 08:57 PM
I think he seems pretty cool. If he becomes arrogant, though, that would be his undoing, probably. He never underestimates his opponents. He still works on his game, still making progress. If he was arrogant he would have thought he didn't need any more game and wouldn't have gotten as good as he is.

liptea
03-31-2005, 09:01 PM
Another Federer's thread...not started by the Fed "freaks".

yes, he's so arrogant and full of himself that's why his peers voted him for the Sportsmanship award.

For a quote from one journalist you mentioned, I can quote you dozen others who said he's still the same down to earth guy he is all these while.

But of course people will always be doing selective reading and that's normal.

Hello, the starter of the thread never said that Roger was arrogant, just asking what you thought about the comments that the journalist put forth.

All top players are arrogant to some degree. Some wear theirs on their sleeve more than others.


Some tennis players don't wear sleeves.:p

El Legenda
03-31-2005, 09:04 PM
Go Roger go go it's your birthday..we gonna party like its you birthday...we dont give F8ck if its not your birthday go go..

jmgsdoubsprtnr
03-31-2005, 09:05 PM
Fed is a great guy. I've never heard him say "so and so has no chance against me". that would be arrogant, but the man can be confident (and has every reason to be) without being arrogant.

MissMoJo
03-31-2005, 09:25 PM
The answer is still no

holagirl56
03-31-2005, 09:28 PM
Not a bit.

Roger's not arrogant, he's seems completely kind and respectful to other players, no matter how much they may frustrate him. And if someone mistakes that confidence for arrogance, he does have a right. He is the best player in the world, with a far seperance from the rest.

lsy
04-01-2005, 01:34 AM
Hello, the starter of the thread never said that Roger was arrogant, just asking what you thought about the comments that the journalist put forth.


Hello, which part in my post did I say the starter of the thread said Roger was arrogant?

I said "For a Quote from JOURNALIST you mentioned"

NYCtennisfan
04-01-2005, 01:36 AM
Fed is a great guy. I've never heard him say "so and so has no chance against me". that would be arrogant, but the man can be confident (and has every reason to be) without being arrogant.

This is true. I haven't even read about Fed saying the ubiquitous, "If I play my game, I don't think anyone can beat me" quote that all the greats lay out there like Sampras.

nkhera1
04-01-2005, 01:46 AM
For how much better he is than everybody else, I think Roger is very classy. He is self-confident which you have to be as a champion. The only thing I don't like is that he made too many excuses for losing to Safin. He should have just said I wasn't playing well or that Safin played a little better and ended it there.

SAtennis
04-01-2005, 05:02 AM
What?

Did you watch the match? The result could have been different if Roger wasn't having the blisters. He didn't excuse himself. He just said the FACT.

bad gambler
04-01-2005, 06:06 AM
no

El Legenda
04-01-2005, 06:07 AM
i 2nd the no.

syd
04-01-2005, 10:37 AM
thanx for all your opinions about it,
conclusion : Roger not arrogant but just self-confident !!!

Experimentee
04-01-2005, 10:44 AM
Every successful player has to be arrogant, even if they dont show it. You need to have extreme self confidence to succeed at a high level in an individual sport such as tennis. Even Davenport said it once, that she is very arrogant inside because she has to be.

Smankyou
04-01-2005, 11:26 AM
Syd, you pot stirrer.

Geniey2g
04-01-2005, 12:10 PM
I think it may be a case of the fact that he has a good grasp of the English, but maybe not the sensibilities of it. He says things because they're true (e.g. The Swiss Davis Cup team is crap without him :haha: ), but I think sometimes he comes over as arrogant because the English isn't always 100% PC.

Brinyi
04-01-2005, 02:46 PM
Um, that wasn't a journalist's quote, it was one of those X-Tennis clowns.

Daniel
04-03-2005, 03:15 AM
Not at all.

onion
04-03-2005, 06:08 AM
Does he have a right to be? Of course, every right in the world. But it's still off-putting.

No, I don't think anyone has the right to be arrogant. (BTW, I've posted on an earlier page and stated that I do not think that Roger is overly arrogant, so don't have a go at me!)

But anyway, I'm just making a comment on this statement. I think you can know that you are a better player than someone else, without being arrogant.

Fake humility is bad - but true humility is admirable. You don't have to fake not being arrogant...just don't be arrogant! LOL, am I making sense?

tschaeggy
04-03-2005, 08:59 AM
not at all!!
but he has a good self-confidence and without this he wouldn't be the number one for that long time!!!!!!!!!!!

Leni
04-03-2005, 11:35 AM
I'm not really a Roger fan but I don't think he's arrogant. His self-confindence is legitimated by his good results and it would annoy me more when he would be too modest!

Peta Pan
04-03-2005, 11:59 AM
Yes

nhr
04-03-2005, 02:32 PM
I am not a fan but so far I see that he is humble. Although it just irks me when he wins all the time, his personality isnt one to rub his success to another's face. Unlike a certain Maria Sharapova.

jacobhiggins
04-03-2005, 04:05 PM
I think he's the most humble player on tour. More humble then Roddick, Coria, all those guys.

Marine
04-03-2005, 04:37 PM
I think he's the most humble player on tour. More humble then Roddick, Coria, all those guys.

100 % agree, and he's more talentuous.
Everybody says he's even better than Sampras, and Sampras was already considered like a God, so him... and he's not arrogant at all, he's still with the same girl etc...he's an exception.

Hewitt_Rules
04-03-2005, 04:49 PM
No I don't think he's arrogant, if you want arrogant look at Juan Carlos Ferrero.

JMG
04-03-2005, 05:31 PM
Yes.

Black Adam
04-03-2005, 06:06 PM
Yes but some of his fans are even more arrogant

tennischick
04-03-2005, 06:23 PM
No I don't think he's arrogant, if you want arrogant look at Juan Carlos Ferrero.
:worship: :worship: well said.

CassL
04-03-2005, 08:10 PM
He is very arrogant. It's not necessarily a bad trait because other players are also arrogant and I'm very arrogant as well. But still, it's very annoying.

NATAS81
04-03-2005, 08:17 PM
He is not arrogant. I don't know how to phrase this. Quiet confidence, maybe?

He goes about his business. Practices his shots. Does the little things to win. Never gets too frustrated as to where he breaks down the loses a set big. Nadal had him on the ropes early. But, Federer showed exactly why he's the champ. He didn't get rattled.

And earned a great hard fought win today in five sets. He is not at all arrogant. Just has the heart of a champion and wants to win so bad that it may appear arrogant to the casual fan. Not to me, I recognize brilliance when I see it! A heavy dose of heavy topsin forehands from the Great Federer!

Hopp Rogi! Great match both parties!

PaulieM
04-03-2005, 09:07 PM
i'm starting to think that some people are a little bit unclear on the definition of arrogance. i have never heard roger do anything but constantly give credit to his opponents. i think he is pretty confident, and very deservedly so which is very different from arrogant. he knows he's good, and there's no sense pretending that he isn't. he knows that if he plays well and tries his hardest he can win, and he likes to win which i spart of being an athlete. but he also understands that the same goes for everyone else. so in my opinion the answer is a big NO.

SwiSha
04-03-2005, 09:08 PM
No I don't think he's arrogant, if you want arrogant look at Juan Carlos Ferrero.

oh hell yeah

Geniey2g
04-03-2005, 09:20 PM
:worship: :worship: well said.
lol! How is JC arrogant?

Sjengster
04-03-2005, 09:34 PM
Nope. Don't confuse his behaviour with that of a few of his fans. In fact, Federer goes to greater lengths to give respect and credit to his opponent, and to take them seriously as a challenge, than any other dominating player I've seen - even when they're clearly no opposition whatsoever. I'll bet he said Lisnard was a tougher match than he was expecting back at the US Open in 2003, a match he won 1, 2 and 0.

KiNgIe
04-03-2005, 09:48 PM
No I don't think he's arrogant, if you want arrogant look at Juan Carlos Ferrero.
Care to elaborate that. If you think so, you haven't been looking long enough. Don't talk bs you don't know about. This coming from a Hewitt fan :rolleyes:

nkhera1
04-03-2005, 09:50 PM
What?

Did you watch the match? The result could have been different if Roger wasn't having the blisters. He didn't excuse himself. He just said the FACT.

He also said his elbow and foot were hurting.

CassL
04-04-2005, 12:05 AM
What?

Did you watch the match? The result could have been different if Roger wasn't having the blisters. He didn't excuse himself. He just said the FACT.

FACT? :rolleyes: Where's the evidence?

olliemyers
04-04-2005, 12:15 AM
No!!

LCeh
04-04-2005, 01:32 AM
I am starting to wonder how people define arrogance....

Put it this way, he doesn't go out of his way to praise himself, and he respects his opponents. He never mentions his records, or who he has beaten, unless someone asks him about it, or is related to the question. He might give some comments that might sound arrogant when being asked a stupid question, but as long as it is not to put down another person (or to praise himself), and if it's true, I don't see it as arrogance.

A lot of you mentioned his comment to Andre in AO. Please take a look at the question and put yourself in his shoes before making any comments.

nkhera1
04-04-2005, 01:59 AM
A lot of you mentioned his comment to Andre in AO. Please take a look at the question and put yourself in his shoes before making any comments.

What did Federer say about Agassi.

jacobhiggins
04-04-2005, 02:34 AM
The reporters were saying how he has to raise his game to face Agassi and Roger bluntly said, "I'm Number One in the world and have beaten him in the past, he has to raise his game to beat me." Not an exact quote, but pretty much. Which is not arrogant at all, it's the truth. Plus Roger talks bluntly alot, always says how he can be beat on any given day and never says any match is easy, people are just looking for a crack in him and they can't find one on the tennis court, so there taking potshots at him offcourt.

misyou25
04-04-2005, 10:44 AM
Hello???? guys, at least a little arrogant...the very least...

misyou25
04-04-2005, 10:46 AM
not judging his game which is nearly perfect

Vincent
04-04-2005, 10:53 AM
Roger has all the reasons to be arrogant, but he choose to be humble and friendly.

Ferrero Forever
04-04-2005, 11:03 AM
what the hell is this about JC being arrogant? JC is one of the most humble players on tour. And the hewitt fan who posted about JC being arrogant, you should really take another look at Hewitt-that is arrogance in it's purest form. JC has done nothing wrong, neither has Federer, so just leave them the hell alone. The only way I could think of that might suggest that JC is arrogant is because his english is not so good, so sometimes he has to answer questions in interviews that might sound the tiniest bit arrogant, but if you read the interviews he always gives credit to his opponent and tells it how it is, if his opponent outplayed him then he would speak up, if he was having a bad day then he would mentioned it. How that is arrogance I would never know. But Federer is THE most humble player on tour, and i can't see any way how he would come across as arrogant.

syd
04-04-2005, 11:05 AM
what the hell is this about JC being arrogant? agree
i think He's not arrogant at all !!!

misyou25
04-04-2005, 11:47 AM
Juancho is not arrogant at all...and this is not about ferrero or hewitt, it's about federer her. those who think ferrero is arrogant should make another treat

Kyla
04-04-2005, 11:53 AM
Noooooooooooooooo

misyou25
04-04-2005, 11:59 AM
yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss:)

SwiSha
04-04-2005, 12:03 PM
lol this question is nonsense ... Fed is confident ... not arrogant at all..do u wanna see arrogant people?

go to the NBA or stick with the rappers where everyone calls himself KIng of.....BLA BLA BLA

TheMightyFed
04-04-2005, 12:16 PM
Arrogant ? Depends...

Q. Were you surprised at how well he played in the first game?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I wasn't surprised, you know. I know how good a player he is. Of course, you know, every match I go into, I'm this huge favorite, you know. When I lose sets, it's like crazy, you know. :eek:

syd
04-04-2005, 12:18 PM
I'm this huge favorite
:confused:

sigmagirl91
04-04-2005, 12:32 PM
Do I find Roger arrogant? No.

missroddickfan
04-04-2005, 01:25 PM
Yes i do.

jtipson
04-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Arrogant ? Depends...

Q. Were you surprised at how well he played in the first game?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I wasn't surprised, you know. I know how good a player he is. Of course, you know, every match I go into, I'm this huge favorite, you know. When I lose sets, it's like crazy, you know. :eek:

Of course he's the huge favourite, where's the problem with that?
And we all see the reaction the media (and some fans) have when he does lose a set here or there - big overreaction "like crazy".

syd
04-04-2005, 01:55 PM
And we all see the reaction the media (and some fans) have when he does lose a set here or there - big overreaction "like crazy". It’s normal, he’s n°1 & he used to beat players in straight sets so people always expect him to win easily.
For the media, it's their job, they wait for exciting news, if he had lost, it would have made more headlines for them !!!!

SwiSha
04-04-2005, 01:59 PM
Yes i do.


hmmm well why does that not surprise me?

oops maybe its your NAME ? LOL ..

SwiSha
04-04-2005, 02:00 PM
drop a bomb GUGA ...

SwiSha
04-04-2005, 02:00 PM
wrong thread sry

misyou25
04-04-2005, 04:30 PM
Yes i do.
nice pic of roddick with the cowboy hat:D yummy