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ATP european player of the year award

claudine140
12-05-2002, 08:29 PM
Moya won the atp european player of the year award because he won four tournements,his position in the championrace, his attitude towards media and sponsors, cooperation and support of the european events.
Isn't this great??? Finally he recieves a award he deserves, finally they haven't forgotten him!!!!
Finally they apreciate moyke!!
Claudine

TheBoiledEgg
12-05-2002, 08:53 PM
well done Carlos :)
congrats :) :D

ys
12-05-2002, 09:05 PM
:O. Safin is #3, won Davis Cup, made it to AO finals, Costa won RG. What exactly has Carlos done? :confused:

Jessi
12-05-2002, 09:20 PM
Congrats to Carlos but Safin should have won it..

Moya

Acapulco - win
Monte Carlo - finals
Bastad - win
Umag - win
Cincy - win

2002 gs record: 4-3
End of year ranking: #5

Safin

AO - finals
Hamburg - finals
RG - semis
Paris - win
Davis Cup - win

2002 gs record: 13-4
End of year ranking: #3

dbc
12-05-2002, 10:44 PM
Very pleased for Carlos, he deserves it.

Ma. Estefania
12-05-2002, 11:10 PM
Hmmmm......I doubt it.....

Chrisie
12-06-2002, 06:20 AM
Attitude to media and sponsors? It's that a factor,too?

Maybe that's why Marat didn't win. Or because ATP always does strange things?

But congratulations to Moya!!:bounce:

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2002, 07:31 AM
Okay I'm sorry, but Moya wasn't even the most deserving Spaniard (1-3 head to head this year, 2 of those losses coming in finals).

That said, it should have been Marat.

Jessi
12-06-2002, 09:34 AM
Not to mention, Moya is the 3rd ranked European behind Safin and Ferrero..

claudine140
12-06-2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by y_s
:O. Safin is #3, won Davis Cup, made it to AO finals, Costa won RG. What exactly has Carlos done? :confused:

Moya won four tournements: one is a super nine and final in Monaco. He jumped from the 35 place at the beginning of the year, to the fifth place at the end of the year.
Played several semifinals too..... he was very regular during the lyear. He beated several top five players: Hewitt, Safin, Fererro , Agassi etc.....
He made the biggest come back this year;
Claudine

claudine140
12-06-2002, 12:10 PM
Don' t forget Moya made the biggest jump or come back this year: from the 35 place to the fifth place.>

Chloe le Bopper
12-06-2002, 12:25 PM
Listen - I think Moya had a great year. I think he might even have a better year next year.

But only one of his titles were big. Yes they are still titles. But IMO Marat and Ferrero both pass him. Ferrero if only because he beat him twice in finals, and once a semi final - two of those were big tournaments, and all of them different surfaces. He single handedly kept Moya's ranking below his... he made a slam final, etc etc.

But like I said... It should have been Marat, and if he was going to be snubbed it should have been for Ferrero.

Just my opinion. NOthing I say takes away from what Moya did this year, that is not my aim.

I'm merely confused.

TennisHack
12-06-2002, 01:27 PM
Moya Wins Inaugural ATP European Player of the Year Award
Moya won four ATP tournaments in 2002 and qualified for the year-end Tennis Masters Cup.


Monte Carlo, Monaco -- Spain's Carlos Moya has won the inaugural ATP European Player of The Year Award as voted by the European ATP tournament directors.

The Spaniard, who finished the year at No. 5 in the ATP Champions Race winning four events in 2002, will receive a Waterford Crystal engraved trophy at his first ATP event in Europe in 2003.

The ATP European Player of the Year Award is based on diverse criteria such as the final ATP Champions Race position of the player, attitude towards media and sponsors, cooperation and support of the European events.

emphasis mine -- but that's why Ferrero didn't win, me thinks. Remember his (justifiable) spat at Roma?

Plus, 3 of Moya's 4 titles came on the European circuit . . .

RogiFan
12-06-2002, 02:29 PM
:) Hi all!

Just reading your views on Moya. I for one am very happy for Carlos. I think he deserves the award. He's worked so hard this year to come back and I was very happy that he made it to Shanghai and came out top of his group even though Juanqui beat him in the semis.

Hackie, your point re: titles on European soil/courts is an interesting one -- did they take that into consideration? If so, perhaps we should revisit this whole thing, out of curiosity!

I also think that despite only winning 1 tournament, Marat actually did well even though his temperament got the better of him quite often this year.

As for Juanqui, he's clearly the BEST Spaniard and he's improving by leaps and bounds although his results don't reflect this -- most would simply say but he got to the RG final but didn't win it!! He's getting there and I think he'll achieve his BIG goal next year [winning that GS or TMC].

One day my Rogi will win the award, I hope!
;)

warfreakbix
12-06-2002, 02:44 PM
I don't think Marat cares one way or another, but I guess the recognition would not hurt. One's thing is for sure Marat is probably having the time of his life, he's on vacation and away from tennis for a whole month!!! :D :D :D

Congratulations Carlos!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Vera
12-06-2002, 07:23 PM
I like Moya and am very happy that his effort got some recognition. The ranking jump is great, but everyone knows the most difficult part is to move within the Top 5, eventhough it might just be moving one position. And to me, this award sounds political - attitude towards media and sponsors, cooperation and support of the european events - what's that got to do with one's tennis performance. I think the best European player should be based on Ranking, so it should be Marat.

Having said all that, I still happy that Moya got it bcos he's one of my fave. :)

dbc
12-06-2002, 10:14 PM
Well said Claudine!

Nacho
12-06-2002, 11:30 PM
I'm not surprised coz the award was given by the directors of the european tournaments. They were the ones who decided who would get the award, and considering Carlos won 3 european titles and there are also 3 tournaments played in Spain, it is not very surprising.

I don't know if he deserves the award, but frankly I don't care at all. Congrats Carlos! :D (btw he'll get the trophy in the 1st european tournament he plays in 2003)

Jorge
12-07-2002, 03:29 AM
Felicitats, Carlitos, you are really the best european player. See you at Melbourne! :bounce:

Chloe le Bopper
12-07-2002, 04:16 AM
Nice to see how objective some of you can all be.

Jorge
12-07-2002, 04:19 AM
extremely ;) enjoy your award, Carles!

Scotso
12-07-2002, 10:59 AM
Moya doesn't deserve this award.

maratski
12-07-2002, 08:56 PM
With all respect to Carlos and his achievements this year I still believe it should be Marat.:fiery: :fiery:

Warfreakbix I'm afraid Marat doesn't have a month of vacation. He calculated his vacation and said that after DC he only has 10 days of vacation before he has to start preparing himself for next season.
Feel sorry for him, I know how much he needs a break from tennis.

Chloe le Bopper
12-07-2002, 11:04 PM
Regardless of wether or not Moya deserved it based soley on his results (and I dont' believe that he did).. congrats to him anyhow :)

Because hey, if they were going to get political, at least they handed it to someone who is very gracious, classy, and DID have a great "comeback" year.

Xin
12-08-2002, 03:56 AM
Congrat Moya. Although his ranking is behind Safin and Fererro, his game is not worse than any of them. He surely deserves that. I feel very bad that Moya always loses to Fererro because I really think he has a better game. It's sad that sometimes you think the other player should win the match based on his game but ends up with losing it. It's tennis, isn't it!?:sad: :p
Congrats Moya. Hope you will have an even better year! :)

Chloe le Bopper
12-08-2002, 10:02 AM
*cough* I don't find it all that sad ;) Though in truth, it does baffle the heck out of me. They often seem to play very close matches, but Ferrero usually pulls through. However before every single time they play, 95% of the people on this board and everywhere else picks Moya. I guess head to heads mean utter crap to you people :p

Anyhow. Game wise I don't think Moya is below Ferrero, though I think Safin is quite a bit better than both in that regard. But the award should be based strictly on results, no?

They should start calling themselves the Oscars :p

Ma. Estefania
12-08-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Xin
his game is not worse than any of them.

But neither better.:rolleyes:

Catriel
12-08-2002, 10:55 PM
Felicitaciones Carlitos!!! :D

Congratulations, he deserve it!

dbc
12-09-2002, 11:38 AM
Agree with you Xin. For some reason think Carlos has a mental block whenever he meets JC as he gets so close, but just can't get over that final hurdle. Let's hope he finds the formula in 2003.

TheBoiledEgg
12-09-2002, 12:37 PM
Carlos needs to SWOT the Sushi early like he did in Cinci :D

put him down early and out of his misery.

Vamos Carlos !!!!!!!!!!!

Chloe le Bopper
12-09-2002, 06:24 PM
Right.

It's all Moya not being able to close matches.

It has nothing to do with the fact that Ferrero *gasp* plays tennis too!

The objectivity around here never ceases to amaze me :)

claudine140
12-09-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by dbc
Well said Claudine!
Thanks

Shadow
12-09-2002, 08:10 PM
I`m happy for Carlos that he won this award, he had a great year, but though i think Marat should have won it:mad: He deserved it more!

luvbadboys
12-12-2002, 06:14 PM
What?!?!??

What about Marat, Ferrero?

Actually what I'd like to know is who voted on this award and who cam in second or third.

Chloe le Bopper
12-12-2002, 08:39 PM
Well I think that the tournament directors voted on it, no?

Regardless - it's sort of like the Oscars you see.

The person who wins it likely had a phenomenal performance, though not always the best as politics sometimes comes in to play ;)

Xin
12-13-2002, 01:46 AM
If Moya is not the best, then neither does Safin and Ferrero.

Chloe le Bopper
12-13-2002, 04:13 AM
Um? Do you want to elaborate on that a bit?

*has no idea what you mean*

By the way, if you would read my first posts on this matter, I clearly stated that I thought Safin earned it, and not Ferrero...