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To all the people who think Gaudio's a top 10 player...

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 01:22 AM
Gaudio attempts the stupidest shot in the history of tennis.

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=2025518

Midway through the second set, it became clear Gaudio was spent and his judgment impaired. The Argentine tried an acrobatic shot between his legs and dumped the ball into the net to fall behind 4-2.

"It's an odd shot to play in that situation," Agassi said.

"I did it because I wanted to," Gaudio said. "If I make it, everyone says, 'What a star.' If I don't, they say, "What a jerk.' "


My thoughts are this guy is the world's top ranked idiot. Top 10 player never ever ever. To those guys who berated me for saying this guy has no business in the top 10, what do you say to that?!!!!

alfonsojose
03-30-2005, 01:25 AM
"I did it because I wanted to," Gaudio said. "If I make it, everyone says, 'What a star.' If I don't, they say, "What a jerk.' "

The only person saying "what a jerk" is himself. His worst enemy is Gaston Gaudio :shrug:

erik-the-red
03-30-2005, 01:34 AM
What can I say? He did it; it's over.

However, I thought for sure Agassi was finished in that point. Gaudio ran up to the ball and had ample time to do something.

If you ask me, while Gaudio has a VERY nice backhand, he's not really a Top 10 player. He's more Top 32. Poor Coria...

Domino
03-30-2005, 01:39 AM
Gaudio attempts the stupidest shot in the history of tennis.

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=2025518

Midway through the second set, it became clear Gaudio was spent and his judgment impaired. The Argentine tried an acrobatic shot between his legs and dumped the ball into the net to fall behind 4-2.

"It's an odd shot to play in that situation," Agassi said.

"I did it because I wanted to," Gaudio said. "If I make it, everyone says, 'What a star.' If I don't, they say, "What a jerk.' "


My thoughts are this guy is the world's top ranked idiot. Top 10 player never ever ever. To those guys who berated me for saying this guy has no business in the top 10, what do you say to that?!!!!

Though the situation was different, Federer did the same thing on Match Point against Safin in the AO. He went on to lose the match, whereas he had the ability to turn around and attempt a decent shot to win the match, or at least give himself a shot at winning the point. So shut up, Gaudio deserves his rank, and has the talent to do well on surfaces other than clay.

Sjengster
03-30-2005, 01:41 AM
Rubbish. Another poster who keeps having nightmares about the RG final, it seems. Playing daft shots at important moments is hardly a new phenomenon for Gaudio, as those who have followed a lot of his matches will know. Much worse in my opinion was the ridiculously chosen and abysmally played dropshot at 7-7 in the tiebreak that cost him the first set. But strangely enough, I don't consider the only deserving Top 10 players to be those who don't play stupid shots at times. Every player in the current Top 10 has played a howler at some stage in his career, it's just that they weren't on so big a stage. And Gaudio has made that shot this year, he did it against Hrbaty at the AO in the second set and won the point.

It doesn't matter how much you carry on whining about his poor mentality, or his bad shot selection, or his inability to win matches off clay, or his long hair, or his blue socks, or his crooked tooth - it won't change the fact that he is RG champion, and it won't change the fact that he thoroughly deserves to be the no. 1 Argentinian player in the world.

DanEd
03-30-2005, 01:42 AM
http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/entrysystem/

He is a top ten player and current roland garros champion although it is true

that shot was very stupid.

Aphex
03-30-2005, 01:42 AM
Yes, you're right, those dirt-balling clay-court specialist grinders should have their own tour and ranking, so the noble fast-courters could play their beautiful, well-balanced game in peace.

jole
03-30-2005, 01:42 AM
You deserve whatever ranking you achieve, as long as you haven't found a way to buy points at a supermarket.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 01:44 AM
And I suppose that's why the vbet line on Gaudio was similiar to that of what a qualifier's would be against Agassi.

PaulieM
03-30-2005, 01:44 AM
Rubbish. Another poster who keeps having nightmares about the RG final, it seems. Playing daft shots at important moments is hardly a new phenomenon for Gaudio, as those who have followed a lot of his matches will know. Much worse in my opinion was the ridiculously chosen and abysmally played dropshot at 7-7 in the tiebreak that cost him the first set. But strangely enough, I don't consider the only deserving Top 10 players to be those who don't play stupid shots at times. Every player in the current Top 10 has played a howler at some stage in his career, it's just that they weren't on so big a stage. And Gaudio has made that shot this year, he did it against Hrbaty at the AO in the second set and won the point.

It doesn't matter how much you carry on whining about his poor mentality, or his bad shot selection, or his inability to win matches off clay, or his long hair, or his blue socks, or his crooked tooth - it won't change the fact that he is RG champion, and it won't change the fact that he thoroughly deserves to be the no. 1 Argentinian player in the world.

well said, but i did want to slap him for that shot at 7-7 in the tb

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 01:45 AM
The spaniards grind so much they should quit tennis and work in a mill.

Domino
03-30-2005, 01:46 AM
And I suppose that's why the vbet line on Gaudio was similiar to that of what a qualifier's would be against Agassi.

Who the hell cares about the betting stakes? The bookies had Roddick winning Wimbledon 03 easily, and said he was going to romp Federer.

Sjengster
03-30-2005, 01:48 AM
well said, but i did want to slap him for that shot at 7-7 in the tb

Oh believe me, I felt like slapping him on many occasions - that point, the hotdog at 3-2 in the second, the game he played when he had the break at 4-3, which included another stupid dropshot miles wide and a terrible low forehand into the net... Gaudio has the ability to stay in rallies with Agassi and hurt him with the backhand, but on hard he doesn't quite have the power and the cheap points needed to overwhelm the American. Pushing him to an 85-minute first set was a hell of an achievement but he had to win it, especially after saving all those setpoints earlier in the tiebreak.

Good to see Universe Man laying his credentials out with that last post, I feel free of any obligation to take him seriously now.

*Viva Chile*
03-30-2005, 01:48 AM
Yes, you're right, those dirt-balling clay-court specialist grinders should have their own tour and ranking, so the noble fast-courters could play their beautiful, well-balanced game in peace.

If you think that the clay-specialist players should have their own tour or that the clay is bad for the development of the game, you don't know nothing about tennis. :o

Sjengster
03-30-2005, 01:49 AM
If you think that the clay-specialist players should have their own tour or that the clay is bad for the development of the game, you don't know nothing about tennis. :o

You need to add a smiley to the end of Aphex's post there. Honestly, he is not supporting Universe Man one bit.

Aphex
03-30-2005, 01:51 AM
If you think that the clay-specialist players should have their own tour or that the clay is bad for the development of the game, you don't know nothing about tennis. :o
Fill in the blanks
s***asm

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 01:59 AM
I can't understand myself where this incredible disdain I have for Gaudio comes from, when Albert Costa had his win I didn't see a problem with him in the top 10. But Gaudio...! I'm lost for words. I don't like his game, I feel he has no mental fortitude and gives up extremely easily, the patience he shows on clay is non-existant on hard courts.

Sjengster
03-30-2005, 02:01 AM
I can't understand myself where this incredible disdain I have for Gaudio comes from, when Albert Costa had his win I didn't see a problem with him in the top 10. But Gaudio...! I'm lost for words. I don't like his game, I feel he has no mental fortitude and gives up extremely easily, the patience he shows on clay is non-existant on hard courts.

Largely valid points, his game is a matter of personal preference and I agree that he can't sustain concentration or belief for long enough periods on hardcourt to beat the best players or string together a run of wins in major events, even though he has troubled most of the top players on hard at on time or another. But I don't see anything in your objections to him that suggests he should not be in the Top 10.

Denaon
03-30-2005, 02:03 AM
You deserve whatever ranking you achieve, as long as you haven't found a way to buy points at a supermarket.
:yeah:

He truly deserves his spot in Top 10. He earned it, and for sure is trying to keep it in that level...
If talent is the matter, he's far more talented than some in the Top 20. Roddick is a very good example to me, no offense taken :angel:

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 02:06 AM
Sjengster, Gaudio doesn't believe in himself, so why should we?

Sjengster
03-30-2005, 02:09 AM
He doesn't believe in himself off clay, that's true. He does on clay, and to be honest that's where his greatest success has come and always will come. Why shouldn't I support him? I don't support the mentally toughest players, if I did I would be dancing with joy at every one of Hewitt's "CMONNN!!!!"s instead of wanting to kick the TV screen in. I support the players whose style I like, and Gaudio happens to be one of them. You're perfectly entitled not to root for him, but it's beyond pathetic to go around bleating that he shouldn't be in the Top 10 and trying to turn people round to your way of thinking. It's not going to happen because it's a ridiculous argument, accept it and get back to following your favourite players instead of those nasty grinding claycourters.

RavenMare1234759
03-30-2005, 02:11 AM
I'm a Gaston Gaudio fan.

I walked away to start dinner and came back to see that "between the legs" moment replayed. He was having such a great first set.

He was really challenging Agassi's game in the first set.

I don't know...

I'm convinced Agassi spiked Gaston's water bottle with a stupid pill.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 02:11 AM
:banghead:

Hendu
03-30-2005, 02:13 AM
Whats wrong with that shot? I have seen Gaudio make much more strange things (and amazing)... and is not the first time he does it, I saw it in a match against Coria (he missed) and against Hrbaty this year... he won the point. And believe me it was an incredible play...

and about Gaudio not being a top player... well he is a top 3 clay court player, so I don't see why he wouldn't be a top 5-15 for some time...

I wish he had more confidence when playing on hardcourts because he has the skills to have much better results.

It wasn't a bad game against Agassi, but his backhand wasn't working very well... and he should attack more.

Hendu
03-30-2005, 02:15 AM
Sjengster, Gaudio doesn't believe in himself, so why should we?

Because he is an extremely talented player with a great backhand and touch?

or because he won Roland Garros? :rolleyes:

Sjengster
03-30-2005, 02:16 AM
WillyCanas, your two reasons make more sense than all of Universe Man's feeble biased arguments put together.

Smankyou
03-30-2005, 02:20 AM
Fill in the blanks
s***asm
'Sarcasm' is a dirty word on these boards.

Scotso
03-30-2005, 02:35 AM
The shot was stupid, but that has nothing to do with being a top-10 player.

Chloe le Bopper
03-30-2005, 03:14 AM
Though the situation was different, Federer did the same thing on Match Point against Safin in the AO. He went on to lose the match, whereas he had the ability to turn around and attempt a decent shot to win the match, or at least give himself a shot at winning the point. So shut up, Gaudio deserves his rank, and has the talent to do well on surfaces other than clay.
Oh, but it's okay when Federer does it. He turns racquets to gold.

Chloe le Bopper
03-30-2005, 03:15 AM
:banghead:
Isn't it maddening that people insist on giving credit to a grand slam champion? It's almost absurd :fiery:

Chloe le Bopper
03-30-2005, 03:16 AM
The spaniards grind so much they should quit tennis and work in a mill.
I'll be saving up a bad rep for this comment to make up for the misguided good one that I gave you the other day :angel:

WyveN
03-30-2005, 03:20 AM
Oh, but it's okay when Federer does it. He turns racquets to gold.

federer got grilled by the australian commentators for trying that shot on match point

WyveN
03-30-2005, 03:21 AM
"I did it because I wanted to," Gaudio said. "If I make it, everyone says, 'What a star.' If I don't, they say, "What a jerk.' "


:haha:

Didnt Gaudio do the same thing against Hrbaty in Australia? Whats the big deal?

ugotlobbed
03-30-2005, 03:30 AM
i think gaston brings entertainment to tennis....which is exactly what it is lacking...how boring is it to watch agassi or like routine players...comon ....give the guy some credit....even if it was at a bad time....its not like its the french...he prob didnt feel like he had too big of chance to win...plus its ppl like these that keep mens tennis interesting ...and safin too

NATAS81
03-30-2005, 03:31 AM
GASTON IN A GUCCI! You can't go WRONG!

Denaon
03-30-2005, 03:38 AM
ugotlobbed, I cannot agree more....

tennischick
03-30-2005, 04:00 AM
if not playing a stupid shot at a crucial moment was the sole criterion for including a player in the top 10, then none of the current residents would be there. and no-one else in the tour would qualify either :o

Chloe le Bopper
03-30-2005, 04:05 AM
federer got grilled by the australian commentators for trying that shot on match point

Yes, but I don't seem to recall the thread starter commenting on it, which was my point.

(mind you, now that I've said that I have to admit that even if s/he did, I wouldn't remember it)

tennischick
03-30-2005, 04:11 AM
I can't understand myself where this incredible disdain I have for Gaudio comes from, when Albert Costa had his win I didn't see a problem with him in the top 10. But Gaudio...! I'm lost for words. I don't like his game, I feel he has no mental fortitude and gives up extremely easily, the patience he shows on clay is non-existant on hard courts.
fair enuf. i can't stand the Duck and i have my new signature to prove it ;)

but by implication what you're saying is that a player's ability to perform better on clay should not influence his standing in the rankings. while this would not affect folks like Duck and Dent, it does kinda discriminate against hordes of other players who grew up on the stuff (like Gaudio) as well as against players who have dedicated themselves to mastering it (like Agassi).

i too want Gaudio to do better on a hardcourt. but i won't hold it against him that he is good at sliding. :angel:

Fumus
03-30-2005, 04:11 AM
Yes, but I don't seem to recall the thread starter commenting on it, which was my point.

(mind you, now that I've said that I have to admit that even if s/he did, I wouldn't remember it)

Gaudio is awesome, he does that flashy stuff all the time, funny thing is it works for him 75-85% of the time.

liptea
03-30-2005, 04:12 AM
'Sarcasm' is a dirty word on these boards.

Sarcasm is not bad, if a poster has enough of a command on the language to interpret it. The problem is that a lot of posters on MTF are not native, fluent or even conversational English speakers. Not making excuses, but just trying to be understanding.

OK, so I wasn't able to watch the match. From what I read, Gaudio is facing break point, runs to the net in plenty of time with Agassi on the run...and hits the ball between his legs? Am I right or wrong?

tennischick
03-30-2005, 05:43 AM
Sarcasm is not bad, if a poster has enough of a command on the language to interpret it. The problem is that a lot of posters on MTF are not native, fluent or even conversational English speakers. Not making excuses, but just trying to be understanding.

OK, so I wasn't able to watch the match. From what I read, Gaudio is facing break point, runs to the net in plenty of time with Agassi on the run...and hits the ball between his legs? Am I right or wrong?
right...

and right ;)

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 05:43 AM
Because he is an extremely talented player with a great backhand and touch?

or because he won Roland Garros? :rolleyes:

Thanks for speaking sense.

Personally I don't give a crap about his ranking he is doing well at the moment, but don't forget he plays well on clay so that automatically makes him a lesser player according to the wise people in the tennis world.

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 05:45 AM
:haha:

Didnt Gaudio do the same thing against Hrbaty in Australia? Whats the big deal?

It worked that time, that's the only difference.

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 05:48 AM
Gaudio is awesome, he does that flashy stuff all the time, funny thing is it works for him 75-85% of the time.

Just checking are you feeling alright?

Chloe le Bopper
03-30-2005, 05:57 AM
Just checking are you feeling alright?
Fumus has a love affair with the Gaudio. You just haven't been paying enough attention :p

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 06:00 AM
Fumus has a love affair with the Gaudio. You just haven't been paying enough attention :p

April Fools is a few days away, so you must be right.

El Legenda
03-30-2005, 06:01 AM
ohhh one shot who cares...clay season= GG time

Chloe le Bopper
03-30-2005, 06:03 AM
April Fools is a few days away, so you must be right.
I'm being serious :angel:

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 06:03 AM
ohhh one shot who cares...clay season= GG time

Well it's not that important as the real important time is coming up for him.

Choupi
03-30-2005, 06:03 AM
clay season= GG time
Can't agree more...and I'm so looking forward to it. Who cares about the ranking? He's done great so far, whether ppl want to recognize it or not.

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 06:06 AM
Gaston Gaudio is a joke of a tennis player, he is a disgrace. Sure he has some talent in there, but he can't think on a court. He is useless on everything apart from clay apart from beating Agassi and Kafelnikov on hardcourts when they weren't past it at all. The only reason he won a Slam, because everyone was injured and they were too nice to not let him win.

He should be kicked off the tour for bringing the game into disrepute for impersonating a tennis player.

Choupi
03-30-2005, 06:08 AM
What a great portrayal of the cruel reality, George. Congratulations! ;)

bad gambler
03-30-2005, 06:11 AM
i still got gaston @ $17 to win RG :smoke:

c'mon gaston :D

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 06:11 AM
You got ripped off gambler.

Roger-No.1
03-30-2005, 06:37 AM
Yes, you're right, those dirt-balling clay-court specialist grinders should have their own tour and ranking, so the noble fast-courters could play their beautiful, well-balanced game in peace.
:worship: :haha: :rolls:

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 06:39 AM
Yes, you're right, those dirt-balling clay-court specialist grinders should have their own tour and ranking, so the noble fast-courters could play their beautiful, well-balanced game in peace.

Yes, they should have it called the "Grass is for Cows and Smoking" tennis league.

Roger-No.1
03-30-2005, 06:43 AM
Yes, they should have it called the "Grass is for Cows and Smoking" tennis league.
ok, ok.that's for grass.

what about carpet?

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 06:47 AM
ok, ok.that's for grass.

what about carpet?

The Martina Navratilova Carpet Tour.

Roger-No.1
03-30-2005, 06:48 AM
The Martina Navratilova Carpet Tour.
:haha: :haha:

And hard?

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 06:53 AM
:haha: :haha:

And hard?

The Always Hard Alfonsojose Tour.

Roger-No.1
03-30-2005, 07:01 AM
The Always Hard Alfonsojose Tour.
:haha:

Rainer would like that

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 07:04 AM
:haha:

Rainer would like that

Not as much as alfie.

Dirk
03-30-2005, 08:03 AM
I think Gaudio surpassed everyone's expectation by making it to the 4th rd here. He played a incredible first set against Andre. He has nothing to be ashamed of brain cramp and all.

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 08:10 AM
I think Gaudio surpassed everyone's expectation by making it to the 4th rd here. He played a incredible first set against Andre. He has nothing to be ashamed of brain cramp and all.

Not good enough though.

Read my summary of Gaudio that is how he has to be percieved.

~EMiLiTA~
03-30-2005, 09:15 AM
i think gaston brings entertainment to tennis....which is exactly what it is lacking...how boring is it to watch agassi or like routine players...comon ....give the guy some credit....even if it was at a bad time....its not like its the french...he prob didnt feel like he had too big of chance to win...plus its ppl like these that keep mens tennis interesting ...and safin too

agreed :yeah:

User id 7816
03-30-2005, 09:55 AM
Gaudio attempts the stupidest shot in the history of tennis.

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=2025518

Midway through the second set, it became clear Gaudio was spent and his judgment impaired. The Argentine tried an acrobatic shot between his legs and dumped the ball into the net to fall behind 4-2.

"It's an odd shot to play in that situation," Agassi said.

"I did it because I wanted to," Gaudio said. "If I make it, everyone says, 'What a star.' If I don't, they say, "What a jerk.' "

My thoughts are this guy is the world's top ranked idiot. Top 10 player never ever ever. To those guys who berated me for saying this guy has no business in the top 10, what do you say to that?!!!!

judging if someone is top 10 by a crazy shot he played??
If he plays shots like that, he will lose his match. Thats all there is to it.
People know a bit more about tennis than that.
Gaudio is like that, he can be unconventional, and you look like the idiot to me here.

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 10:01 AM
judging if someone is top 10 by a crazy shot he played??
If he plays shots like that, he will lose his match. Thats all there is to it.
People know a bit more about tennis than that.
Gaudio is like that, he can be unconventional, and you look like the idiot to me here.

Have you forgot the mantra.

Gaston Gaudio is a joke of a tennis player, he is a disgrace. Sure he has some talent in there, but he can't think on a court. He is useless on everything apart from clay apart from beating Agassi and Kafelnikov on hardcourts when they weren't past it at all. The only reason he won a Slam, because everyone was injured and they were too nice to not let him win.

He should be kicked off the tour for bringing the game into disrepute for impersonating a tennis player.

User id 7816
03-30-2005, 10:23 AM
Have you forgot the mantra.

Gaston Gaudio is a joke of a tennis player, he is a disgrace. Sure he has some talent in there, but he can't think on a court. He is useless on everything apart from clay apart from beating Agassi and Kafelnikov on hardcourts when they weren't past it at all. The only reason he won a Slam, because everyone was injured and they were too nice to not let him win.

He should be kicked off the tour for bringing the game into disrepute for impersonating a tennis player.

I wouldnt forget ;)

~EMiLiTA~
03-30-2005, 11:06 AM
ok so his best surface is clay, on which he's at least won a grand slam and numerous other titles...and getting to the 4th round of a tms on hard isn't all that bad either, only losing to agassi. i think he deserves to be in the top 10...he's earned all the points that are keeping him there, regardless of where he's earned them and on what surface...he capitalises on the clay so good for him...there are a lot of other players whose favourite surface is clay and they still can't make it into the top 10. so he's a bit more unconventional and not your average top 10er and does the odd wacko shot? so? how can u make that a basis for an argument?

sigmagirl91
03-30-2005, 11:10 AM
Another troll thread--oh, damn. Now I can start my day....

fabolous
03-30-2005, 11:43 AM
ok universeman maybe i can convince you with some facts about gaudio.

his results from RG 2004 up to today:

match record: 38-11
titles: 3 only federer and safin have won more titles than him during that period
finals: 3

another thing is his current ATP race position: 10
you may know that his RG points don't count in the race, but nevertheless he is in the top 10! what do you think about that?

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 11:48 AM
fab, he only plays on clay and for some people tennis on clay doesn't count.

jazz_girl
03-30-2005, 12:08 PM
Gaudio on the shot: "Esa bola me salió mal, pero si me hubiese salido bien hubieran dicho éste hizo la jugada del año, este es un crack y bla, bla, bla. Ahora como me salió mal me dicen qué boludo, mirá lo que hiciste".
"That shot went bad, but if I had made it right they would have said "this guy made the play of the year, he's the best" and blah, blah, blah. Now, like it went wrong now everyone's saying what an idiot, look what you did" :yeah:

"Hay jugadores que son así. Hago lo que me sale en el momento, hay gente que en el fútbol le sale tirar un caño y le hacen un gol en contra. Así jugué siempre y así voy a seguir jugando toda mi vida. Hay veces que quiero hacer algo que la gente por ahí no comparte, pero yo trato de divertirme".
"There are players that are like this. I do what I can in the moment, there are people in soccer that throw the ball between the oponent's legs and they make a goal for the other team instead. I've always played like that and I'm gonna continue like that for my whole life. There are times in which I want to do something thta maybe the people don't share with me, but I try to have fun".

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 12:10 PM
With all the bad reps you all are throwing at me, I'll change my opinion and say Gaudio is the best player I've ever seen. Year end #1. Go Gaudio. :worship:

tennisman.
03-30-2005, 12:14 PM
He is not top 10 player.
Clay is the only surface where he can challenge the big boys

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 12:16 PM
universeman, that was almost insincere, April Fools Day isn't for another few days.

sigmagirl91
03-30-2005, 12:32 PM
With all the bad reps you all are throwing at me, I'll change my opinion and say Gaudio is the best player I've ever seen. Year end #1. Go Gaudio. :worship:

OMG!!! I come back, and you're bleeding red all over the place... :o

fabolous
03-30-2005, 12:53 PM
fab, he only plays on clay and for some people tennis on clay doesn't count.
these are the same people who have problems with muster and rios as former #1.

universeman and his red dots :eek: :eek: but i think this shows the major opinion on this board very well.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 12:59 PM
these are the same people who have problems with muster and rios as former #1.

universeman and his red dots :eek: :eek: but i think this shows the major opinion on this board very well.

And i'll watch those guys very closely in future and be ready to pounce.

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 12:59 PM
these are the same people who have problems with muster and rios as former #1.

universeman and his red dots :eek: :eek: but i think this shows the major opinion on this board very well.

Yes, even people who aren't Gaudio fans found this joker a bit too much, then again I agree with the fact that some of these people had a problem with Muster being # 1, even though he won a Super 9 event on carpet and had good hardcourt results. I'd be proud if Gaudio could reach that level that Muster did on those other surfaces.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-30-2005, 01:02 PM
this is absurd how you all destroyed my reputation just because I have an opinion and at least I tried to back it up with facts such as his hard court record and history of shot selection, plus his tanking matches and extremely inconsistent results.

I didn't throw around some swear words and jump up and down.

Julio1974
03-30-2005, 01:15 PM
this is absurd how you all destroyed my reputation just because I have an opinion and at least I tried to back it up with facts such as his hard court record and history of shot selection, plus his tanking matches and extremely inconsistent results.

I didn't throw around some swear words and jump up and down.

What's the link between Gaudio hard courts records and your conclusion about his ranking? Roddick cannot beat Edgardo Massa on clay but that does not mean he does not deserves to be in the top 5. Tennis is played on different courts.

And one last comment: when Gaudio plays well, he's one of the most attractive player to watch. He is extremely talented.

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 01:20 PM
this is absurd how you all destroyed my reputation just because I have an opinion and at least I tried to back it up with facts such as his hard court record and history of shot selection, plus his tanking matches and extremely inconsistent results.

I didn't throw around some swear words and jump up and down.

You're kidding yourself if you think that was backed up. People don't even like Gaudio dissected those ordinary arguments and if you are going to be controversial, at least have something looking like an argument.

Based on the fact he played a silly shot he is not top 10, that shows you lack a clue.

He is so bad that he beat Agassi, Kafelnikov 2 Slam champions on hardcourts, beaten guys who made Slam finals on hardcourts like Enqvist, Schuettler, Clement and Grosjean when they weren't past it. Yes, not bad for someone who you make out has never won a match in 20 years on the surface.

tennischick
03-30-2005, 01:54 PM
With all the bad reps you all are throwing at me, I'll change my opinion and say Gaudio is the best player I've ever seen. Year end #1. Go Gaudio. :worship:
i'm sorry to hear that you've been bad-repped for expressing an opinion. i don't agree with it but i won't bad rep just bec i don't agree with you ;)

Hendu
03-30-2005, 02:06 PM
this is absurd how you all destroyed my reputation just because I have an opinion and at least I tried to back it up with facts such as his hard court record and history of shot selection, plus his tanking matches and extremely inconsistent results.

I didn't throw around some swear words and jump up and down.

History of shot selection? how many times have you seen him play?

There is nothing wrong with his shot selection. He is a smart player, with lack of mental toughness and sometimes lack of confidence, but his understanding of the game is very good...

Experimentee
03-30-2005, 03:53 PM
If playing a stupid shot means he shouldnt be top 10, where do you think Safin should be ranked? :o
What Gaudio says is true, he made the same shot against Hrbaty at the AO and everyone was marvelling at it, now he misses it and they say he shouldnt be top 10. And this thread is beyond stupid :rolleyes:

adeegee
03-30-2005, 03:55 PM
If playing a stupid shot means he shouldnt be top 10, where do you think Safin should be ranked? :o
What Gaudio says is true, he made the same shot against Hrbaty at the AO and everyone was marvelling at it, now he misses it and they say he shouldnt be top 10. And this thread is beyond stupid :rolleyes:

Valid points :D

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 03:56 PM
If playing a stupid shot means he shouldnt be top 10, where do you think Safin should be ranked? :o
What Gaudio says is true, he made the same shot against Hrbaty at the AO and everyone was marvelling at it, now he misses it and they say he shouldnt be top 10. And this thread is beyond stupid :rolleyes:

He made it against Federer in the exo at Kooyong, yes he is not worthy of being top 10 because of that shot, got to love the critieria.

jasmine(usa)
03-30-2005, 04:11 PM
I won't bad rep you either, even though I think your thread is absurd. You shouldn't bait people into an arguement if you don't want negative feedback.

G_Hughes
03-30-2005, 05:54 PM
What's the link between Gaudio hard courts records and your conclusion about his ranking? Roddick cannot beat Edgardo Massa on clay but that does not mean he does not deserves to be in the top 5. Tennis is played on different courts.

And one last comment: when Gaudio plays well, he's one of the most attractive player to watch. He is extremely talented.

I agree with you Julio1974. And you´re being to kind to A-ROD . J.Johansson can´t beat my mother on clay and he is almost top 10 .Roddick has an awful claycourt record and stills a top 5. I think Gaudio is top 10 on clay, no doubts about it. And he´s trying to improve on fast courts, even though his game will never fit with fast surfaces. But if you want to see something really funny go to see Mardy Fish on clay, man that´s my idea of comedy !!!

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 05:57 PM
I agree with you Julio1974. And you´re being to kind to A-ROD . J.Johansson can´t beat my mother on clay and he is almost top 10 .Roddick has an awful claycourt record and stills a top 5. I think Gaudio is top 10 on clay, no doubts about it. And he´s trying to improve on fast courts, even though his game will never fit with fast surfaces. But if you want to see something really funny go to see Mardy Fish on clay, man that´s my idea of comedy !!!

That's true about Roddick.

Ginepri is just as funny on clay, then again so is Rusedski and Fish did manage to beat Robredo somehow.

Billy Moonshine
03-30-2005, 06:10 PM
Who cares if he´s a top ten player?
He´s 2004 RG Champ, now, you can´t dispute that!
I think he is still in the top ten though.

sigmagirl91
03-30-2005, 06:11 PM
Troll thread...troll thread.....

liptea
03-30-2005, 08:37 PM
The spaniards grind so much they should quit tennis and work in a mill.

This is dumb. Leave my Spaniards alone. I don't even want to being on the Spanish/clay specialist argument, except that Moya and Ferrero have both reached at least one hardcourt semifinal and final.

Jogy
03-30-2005, 08:40 PM
Whowwwww, I LOVE how many peoples really have some very good and true facts (I agree!) for defend Gaudio here why he is top 10. But however its funny to see how the same people tend forgetting their great objectivenes and enthusiasm telling the same neutral and simple facts when its about discussing about Roddick, Agassi, Coria, Hewitt & others :haha:

justClaudia
03-30-2005, 08:45 PM
Troll thread...troll thread.....


And boring...

If you want to troll at least make it funny..


Roddick is good here...
Gaston is good there..
Roger is good everywhere..

What's new in all this?? Don't we all can see it...oh well.

liptea
03-30-2005, 08:47 PM
Whowwwww, I LOVE how many peoples really have some very good and true facts (I agree!) for defend Gaudio here why he is top 10. But however its funny to see how the same people tend forgetting their great objectivenes and enthusiasm telling the same neutral and simple facts when its about discussing about Roddick, Agassi, Coria, Hewitt & others :haha:

Or Moya. But I would never claim to be objective about Lord Carlos. Because he's amazing and a gift to the world and heavenly.

alexito
03-30-2005, 09:12 PM
next monday gaudio will be 6th ranking world, coria number 9th, therefore gaudio will be number 1 argentina tennis players.

Neely
03-30-2005, 09:55 PM
when its about discussing about Roddick, Agassi, Coria, Hewitt & others :haha:
We all know the Slams, titles and career achievements of these players are worth nothing because they are all absolute jerks, because they are so annoying, because they are injury fakers, because they can't play on clay or whatever.

Chloe le Bopper
03-31-2005, 12:31 AM
i'm sorry to hear that you've been bad-repped for expressing an opinion. i don't agree with it but i won't bad rep just bec i don't agree with you ;)
I didn't get to bad rep universe man. However, had I done it, it would have been for the idiotic comment about Spaniards. I bad rep anybody who stereotypes them as such, because it's ignorant.

Bad repping for no other reason than disagreeing on your points of view is being a poor sport :p

sigmagirl91
03-31-2005, 01:25 AM
Universe Man, get a new hobby, find a woman, get laid--anything to keep the space between your ears busy.

RavenMare1234759
03-31-2005, 02:16 AM
next monday gaudio will be 6th ranking world, coria number 9th, therefore gaudio will be number 1 argentina tennis players.



:bigclap:

tennischick
03-31-2005, 02:28 AM
I didn't get to bad rep universe man. However, had I done it, it would have been for the idiotic comment about Spaniards. I bad rep anybody who stereotypes them as such, because it's ignorant.

Bad repping for no other reason than disagreeing on your points of view is being a poor sport :p
what comment about the Spanish? :shrug:

tennischick
03-31-2005, 02:30 AM
The spaniards grind so much they should quit tennis and work in a mill.
i didn't see this before -- i only read and responded to your opening post. you need to apologise for this statement. quick.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-31-2005, 02:49 AM
It was a joke.

sigmagirl91
03-31-2005, 02:50 AM
Oh, damn, universe man, you went from talking about Gaudio to talking about the Spaniards. You must be seriously demented or grasping at straws...which is it so we can immediately go on to more pressing concerns-like who will beat Rafa? Or even who will beat Agassi?

uNIVERSE mAN
03-31-2005, 02:50 AM
I didn't. I was trying to be funny.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-31-2005, 02:51 AM
I'm trying to let this thread die, but you folks keep propogating it.

tennischick
03-31-2005, 02:52 AM
It was a joke.
i take it you're not Spanish?

sigmagirl91
03-31-2005, 02:53 AM
I didn't. I was trying to be funny.

That was not funny....not even by a stretch....
Now, if your aim was to post a troll thread, the least you could do is be funny, but all I see thus far is a bunch of incoherent statements followed by a slew of bad reps...and another troll thread pleading us not to bad rep you again.....please, put down the crack pipe and the weed bag, son, and snap back to reality.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-31-2005, 02:54 AM
And btw, I think JCF, Rafa are phenomenal talents on all surfaces, players like Verdasco have great potential, and Ferrer's in the Semi's here, try to loosen up a bit, not everything needs to be taken so seriously.

sigmagirl91
03-31-2005, 02:59 AM
And btw, I think JCF, Rafa are phenomenal talents on all surfaces, players like Verdasco have great potential, and Ferrer's in the Semi's here, try to loosen up a bit, not everything needs to be taken so seriously.

The point is, and always will remain, the Spaniards are not the subject of this thread. Gaudio is. The least you can do as thread starter is keep the discussion on topic.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-31-2005, 03:00 AM
WTF is a troll thread? that's like the billionth time you mentioned it. If you noticed I'm not the one who's continuously keeping this thread alive! I'm trying to be nice, and you still won't get off my back, I'm not here to please you and obey you. Yeah you gave me a bad rep about two days later when I'd already apologised, did I retaliate? no. And you still won't stop. Don't try and be my mother.

NATAS81
03-31-2005, 03:01 AM
I didn't. I was trying to be funny.
Nice try. :confused:

sigmagirl91
03-31-2005, 03:02 AM
WTF is a troll thread? that's like the billionth time you mentioned it. If you noticed I'm not the one who's continuously keeping this thread alive! I'm trying to be nice, and you still won't get off my back, I'm not here to please you and obey you. Yeah you gave me a bad rep about two days later when I'd already apologised, did I retaliate? no. And you still won't stop. Don't try and be my mother.

I see that reading comprehension is a serious problem for you, so I will cease and desist right now...thanks for playing, universe man, it was a total pleasure.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-31-2005, 03:04 AM
wow i'm on sigmagirl's ignore list, I better go kill myself.

sigmagirl91
03-31-2005, 03:05 AM
wow i'm on sigmagirl's ignore list, I better go kill myself.

Don't hurt yourself on account of me....I'm just one person....and I haven't put you on ignore, if that's what you're thinking....

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 05:50 AM
We all know the Slams, titles and career achievements of these players are worth nothing because they are all absolute jerks, because they are so annoying, because they are injury fakers, because they can't play on clay or whatever.

Bring it on if you want an objective discussion about players I don't like. Go ahead you name them, this doesn't mean I have to like the subject I am talking about.

If you don't I can follow this principle go and ask Fumus about the convo and different viewpoints we had analysing Roddick's game.

Experimentee
03-31-2005, 05:55 AM
WTF is a troll thread? that's like the billionth time you mentioned it. If you noticed I'm not the one who's continuously keeping this thread alive! I'm trying to be nice, and you still won't get off my back, I'm not here to please you and obey you. Yeah you gave me a bad rep about two days later when I'd already apologised, did I retaliate? no. And you still won't stop. Don't try and be my mother.

We just like to keep it alive to laugh at your stupidity :haha:
You have some nerve to complain about bad reps and act like others are in the wrong, after starting such a thread. You cant just make stupid comments and not expect a response.