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~EMiLiTA~
03-29-2005, 02:04 PM
So it looks like it's going to be held in Sydney again, on grass (as we knew)...just thought it was a bit weird they are holding it outdoors. It's not like RLA which has a roof...and July is not exactly the best time of year in Aus...hope the weather holds out for them...should be an awesome tie!

Kristen
03-30-2005, 07:23 AM
Indeed :yeah:
I look forward to it :woohoo:...but not the weather. I can barely handle 21 degrees. I miss January, for so many (tennis + weather) reasons :)

~EMiLiTA~
03-30-2005, 01:56 PM
yeah i know! i can't believe they're having it outdoors...

would love to go to it...but i won't be in Aus at that time...

Action Jackson
03-30-2005, 02:04 PM
I'll think of you Em.

You'll be doing something decent if you are out of the country.

21 is beautiful weather.

~EMiLiTA~
03-31-2005, 11:54 AM
I'll think of you Em.

You'll be doing something decent if you are out of the country.

21 is beautiful weather.

I will indeed be doing something decent ;)

21 is ok...but it'll be colder than that in July...

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 11:56 AM
I will indeed be doing something decent ;)

21 is ok...but it'll be colder than that in July...

I'll have to have my gas mask when I come to Sydney all that pollution.

bad gambler
03-31-2005, 12:18 PM
I'll have to have my gas mask when I come to Sydney all that pollution.


not in homebush mate ;)

Action Jackson
03-31-2005, 12:22 PM
not in homebush mate ;)

I won't be staying in Newington.

Fedex
04-03-2005, 09:23 AM
I'll have to have my gas mask when I come to Sydney all that pollution.
Are you sure you'll be able to handle all of the grass, GWH. ;) :lol:

Smankyou
04-04-2005, 08:37 AM
I'm not even sure if I'll be in the country.

Kristen
04-04-2005, 02:10 PM
Pollution is a consequence of living in a decent, popular place (city/state :p).
Don't worry, you'll adapt! How long will you be here for? The week prior to DC? (MTWTFSS) Regardless of whether I do go, I'll go to some training sessions at the very least.

NATAS81
04-04-2005, 05:58 PM
Good match.

NATAS81
04-07-2005, 03:23 PM
It should read Hewitt vs Argentina

trixy
04-09-2005, 07:17 AM
yay, i'm glad its in Sydney. Winter in Australia isn't exactly that cold so i think it will be a nice change, so more sun burn at least.

Smankyou
04-09-2005, 07:46 AM
It should read Hewitt vs Argentina
As should every tie.

NATAS81
04-09-2005, 08:07 AM
Good point.

bad gambler
04-10-2005, 12:46 AM
i'm liking hewitt's chances

Smankyou
04-10-2005, 12:40 PM
Oh. And what are you talking about?! There's no pollution in Sydney.

smucav
04-15-2005, 04:19 PM
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,12869898%5E3162,00.htmlArgentina's grass action against Aussies
Leo Schlink
16apr05

ARGENTINE captain Albert Mancini will flood Europe's grasscourts this season in the hope of stealing a Davis Cup victory over Australia in Sydney in July.

Mancini, part of a South American troupe embroiled in Juan Ignacio Chela's Australian Open stoush with Lleyton Hewitt, will stalk John Fitzgerald's Australians throughout the four-week European grasscourt season.
In a departure from the usual claycourter's pattern of peaking for the French Open (May 23-June 5) and then contriving token performances at Wimbledon (June 20-July 3), Mancini expects his team to contest grass tournaments at Halle, Queen's Club, Rosmalen and Nottingham before Wimbledon. He will then rush his players to Sydney to prepare for the July 15-17 tie on grass at Olympic Park, where Australia thrashed Austria 5-0 last month to reach the last eight.

"We are not very used to that surface, but I think this year is going to be a very good preparation for the players to play the grass season right before that," Mancini said.

"It's going to be tough, but our players are very, very confident that they can do good over there (Australia)."

Argentina thumped the Czech Republic 5-0 on clay in Buenos Aires and will plumb its extraordinary depth to field a team capable of stretching Australia on grass.

Argentina has 11 players in the top 100 – Australia has Lleyton Hewitt (No. 2) and Wayne Arthurs (74) – with French Open winner Gaston Gaudio (6), Wimbledon finalist David Nalbandian (8) and Roland Garros runner-up Guillermo Coria (9).

Hewitt destroyed Nalbandian in the 2002 All-England Club final, but had a far tougher encounter with the right-hander at the Australian Open.

Australia is hoping to regain Mark Philippoussis for the tie as it builds momentum for a tilt at its 29th Cup triumph.

Todd Woodbridge and Chris Guccione are likely to be retained.

If it can overcome Argentina, Australia is bound for a September semi-final tie against either Slovak Republic or the Netherlands.

Under the home-and-away system, Australia would play either match in Europe. While the assignment would be demanding, if not insurmountable, Australia could still qualify for a home final against Croatia.

Croatia hosts Romania in Split expecting more heroics from Ivan Ljubicic, who dismantled a US combination of Andre Agassi, Andy Roddick and Mike and Bob Bryan.

The fourth quarter-final is a Moscow rematch of the 2002 final between Russia and France. If Romania, Russia or France made the final against Australia, they would retain home ground rights.
© Herald and Weekly Times

bad gambler
04-16-2005, 10:42 PM
pressure is on hewitt, c'mon son get us through!

Via
04-18-2005, 12:14 AM
i know i'm terribly behind on this 'latest' news....... but yay!! in sydney again :worship:

hope to be able to spend more time at the training sessions in july, but the woolies will have to come out. maybe this season's fur jackets and ugg boots may help lol

bad gambler
04-18-2005, 02:27 AM
it has been abnormally warm so far in sydney and its offically autumn so there is a chance it won;t be that bad come July :unsure:

Smankyou
04-18-2005, 03:05 AM
31 degrees today.

Craziness.

Via, if you wear your ugg boots, I'll wear mine. ha.

Via
04-19-2005, 12:29 AM
trust me it will be cold come july. you can still play tennis, but to watch it from a stadium stand, is something else.....

ugg boots won't be a problem but mittens will be for the camera, lol

everyone seems to have short memory and has forgotten how lethal wayne is on grass. we don't have to wait for flip to recover. but i'll be very interested to follow the grass results of coria, nalbandian, gaudio... during this northern summer. they have potential ;)

Kristen
04-19-2005, 03:15 AM
everyone seems to have short memory and has forgotten how lethal wayne is on grass. :awww: I haven't forgotten (but I'm sure you know that already!). That match against Jürgen, on my birthday, has mentally scarred me (and Jürgen no doubt! He just won his first match in a long time!). Wayne was on fire :tape:. I hope he never plays any of my favourite guys again :mad: lol

Kristen
04-19-2005, 05:36 AM
Davis Cup tickets on sale Monday May 23

Tickets for the forthcoming Davis Cup by BNP Paribas World Group quarterfinal between Australia and Argentina will go on sale May 23 at 9am AEST. www.ticketek.com.au

TICKET PRICES: 3-day series tickets only (max. of 6 tickets per person)

Adult $ 195.00
Concession $ 155.00 (16&U, FT students & aged pension cards only)
Children $97.50 (12&U)

bad gambler
04-19-2005, 06:21 AM
thanks for the info BGirl

I'm still not sure whether I will be in Sydney during that time, so not sure what to do with respect of getting tickets :shrug:

Action Jackson
04-22-2005, 09:37 AM
Thanks BG, it seems like Mr GWH will be there live in living colour and the tickets aren't that badly priced and I will buy gasmasks when I am in Sydney.

Kristen
04-22-2005, 11:05 AM
You can buy the paper/cardboard types they wear in Japan (or when working in the garage), from Coles...if you're going el cheapo style with the gas mask :yeah: :wavey:

Action Jackson
04-22-2005, 11:08 AM
You can buy the paper/cardboard types they wear in Japan (or when working in the garage), from Coles...if you're going el cheapo style with the gas mask :yeah: :wavey:

Thanks for that your advice is always appreciated.

Trace
04-23-2005, 01:11 PM
I'm glad it's in Sydney, I live only two hours away... And it;s 9 days (I think) before my birthday... We could be looking at an early birthday present here ;) And of course, I'm going for Argentina *not patriotic*

Auscon
04-23-2005, 03:46 PM
pressure is on hewitt, c'mon son get us through!

no doubt he will....and with Waynes good form this year though, that'll hopefully take a little bit of the pressure off

If he can go 7-5 7-6 with Canas on clay, I'm liking his chances against some of these guys on Grass

bad gambler
04-24-2005, 05:25 AM
no doubt he will....and with Waynes good form this year though, that'll hopefully take a little bit of the pressure off

If he can go 7-5 7-6 with Canas on clay, I'm liking his chances against some of these guys on Grass
Arthurs result against canas doesn't mean too much come July - but i see what you mean

I am going to Homebush, probably on Wednesday to see Hewitt hitting up (on a clay surface) will let you know how he moves after his injury :)

His plan is to go to Hamburg only a couple of days before the start of the tournament and make Sydney his home base for the next couple of weeks

Kristen
04-24-2005, 06:28 AM
I'm glad it's in Sydney, I live only two hours away... And it;s 9 days (I think) before my birthday... We could be looking at an early birthday present here ;) And of course, I'm going for Argentina *not patriotic*
:woohoo:
Don't worry. There are others like you. I'm not even an Argentina fan, but I loathe some people so much that I'll gladly cheer them on. GWH...you'll have to teach me correct pronounciation ok!?

BG...love the ninja turtles av! I was a Donatello fan, myself. He was so sophisticated and cool :hearts:

Action Jackson
04-24-2005, 06:43 AM
Yes, Björkman I'll teach you the correct pronounciation.

I can say this that the Argentine guys will be playing the warm up tournaments to Wimbledon and practicing very hard.

They'll have at least a month on the surface before they play in Australia and it should be fun.

Peta Pan
04-24-2005, 03:05 PM
I'm sad I can't be there! Maybe NEXT time it will be in Melbourne. Hopefully next year after the Argentines kick the Aussies out on their arses :p

Can't get holidays to go to Sydney coz I used them for the AO and for my holiday in Perth later in the year :sad:

bouncer
05-10-2005, 07:38 AM
i think ill go patriotic. lol cept i like the argentines. they are a cool bunch XD. i think lleyton will pull through...definitely

bad gambler
05-11-2005, 08:39 AM
well given hewitt's unexpected rib injury another spanner is thrown into this series

Action Jackson
05-11-2005, 08:41 AM
I am not celebrating at all and I expect Hewitt to be there.

Guille_ElMago
05-11-2005, 06:50 PM
Let's go Argentines! Hopefully they will pull through and get a little luck by having Hewitt not being able to play. How long is Hewitt's injury layoff expected to last?

Kristen
05-12-2005, 06:37 AM
We still have two months til the tie.... It doesn't take that long to heal a bone does it? How serious is his injury, I hear it's 'cracked' but not necessarily broken.... or am I totally misunderstanding the concept behind having cracked ribs?

Meh, either way, I think he should take time off and heal himself properly :devil:

*Ljubica*
05-13-2005, 05:32 PM
We still have two months til the tie.... It doesn't take that long to heal a bone does it? How serious is his injury, I hear it's 'cracked' but not necessarily broken.... or am I totally misunderstanding the concept behind having cracked ribs?

Meh, either way, I think he should take time off and heal himself properly :devil:


Cracked/broken ribs are incredibly painful, so guess the main problem for Hewitt will be that he won't be able to practice or do much exercise during the healing process because it really will be too painful for him. Thus, he could come into the tie a little unfit and out of condition, - but it is 2 months away, he is young and strong with the best medical care, and I really can't see him missing this tie. I'll be supporting the Argentines, but I certainly don't want them to win just because Australia's best player is unfortunate enough to be unwell - hope he recovers soon.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
05-14-2005, 08:36 PM
Which channels will air it?

Kristen
05-15-2005, 04:33 AM
lol! I'll be supporting Argentina also, though I doubt I really needed to say that!?

Might have a couple of extra tickets left over, so will advertise them on here for people willing to come along. People who can tolerate someone who loathes a certain Australian, and dislikes the rest of the team :angel: :lol: I'm buying three tickets for each day. This time I might try to sit somewhere that is not directly next to the fan(sp)a(s)tics.

Hoostie
05-15-2005, 09:27 AM
I'll be patriotic also and support the Aussies. :wavey: Though its just not the same without Rafter.

Action Jackson
05-15-2005, 09:37 AM
lol! I'll be supporting Argentina also, though I doubt I really needed to say that!?

Might have a couple of extra tickets left over, so will advertise them on here for people willing to come along. People who can tolerate someone who loathes a certain Australian, and dislikes the rest of the team :angel: :lol: I'm buying three tickets for each day. This time I might try to sit somewhere that is not directly next to the fan(sp)a(s)tics.

When you buy the tickets ask for them to be as close as possible to the Argentine section if you want to sit in a safe area.

Kristen
05-15-2005, 09:54 AM
Nah, it's cool. I like to rub the fanspastics up the wrong way ;)
Read your email :P

*Goes to Paddy's markets to buy Argentine flag.*

jazz_girl
05-15-2005, 02:51 PM
Nah, it's cool. I like to rub the fanspastics up the wrong way ;)
Read your email :P

*Goes to Paddy's markets to buy Argentine flag.*
:lol:
It's good to know that our boys will be all alone there :)

bad gambler
05-15-2005, 11:17 PM
I\'ll be patriotic also and support the Aussies. :wavey: Though its just not the same without Rafter.


:yeah:

Kristen
05-16-2005, 04:32 AM
lol jazz_girl...there will be a few people there to spite the Australian players :angel:
So far I have 5 different people coming with me :eek: Just need to fill the other Saturday ticket and I'll be all set :D

So glad that my mostly 'blue' wardrobe is going to come in handy ;)

jazz_girl
05-16-2005, 12:46 PM
:)

*Ljubica*
05-16-2005, 04:30 PM
lol jazz_girl...there will be a few people there to spite the Australian players :angel:
So far I have 5 different people coming with me :eek: Just need to fill the other Saturday ticket and I'll be all set :D

So glad that my mostly 'blue' wardrobe is going to come in handy ;)

Wish I could come with you Kristen, but it's far too far away for me to travel :sad: I'll be cheering with you in spirit though!!!!

janje17
05-18-2005, 10:51 AM
i heard that is Australia and Croatia make it to the finals, it will be held in Melbourne, if that is the case I HOPE AUSTRALIA KICKS ARGENTINAS ASS AND CROATIA SLAUGHTER ROMANIA (WHICH THEY WILL) cause if australia and croatia meet its going to be crazy, if you have seen the croatian fans at Australian Open it will 10 times worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Kristen
05-23-2005, 09:51 AM
Got my tickets! YAY! 209 row 5 :)
Almost had section 109, but I think it might be too close to the lines? My computer stuffed up and 'the page cannot be displayed' LOL! Anyway, I'm happy :)

Aguante_el_Gato
06-06-2005, 03:27 PM
Gerry Weber Open, Halle (grass) - Doubles 1st round
Cañas/Nalbandian def Erlich/Ram 6-3 6-3
It's only a first round, but against doubles specialists.
I think that, facing the match against Australia, it's good to see them playing on grass and having this results
:yeah:

jazz_girl
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
I like this result as well! :yeah:
They could meet Federer/Allegro in the next round ;)

Sommarsverige
06-13-2005, 03:06 PM
I know this is still in the future and also unsure, but if Argentina would meet the Netherlands in the semifinal, where would this match take place?
Because the 2 teams never played against eachother before...

Denaon
06-13-2005, 03:21 PM
I know this is still in the future and also unsure, but if Argentina would meet the Netherlands in the semifinal, where would this match take place?
Because the 2 teams never played against eachother before...
I dunno if heard it correctly (tell me if I'm wrong) but it seems there's only one chance for Argentina to play local against an unlikely finalist (I don't remember which one) so that means that a semifinal against the Netherland should be played there ;)

*Ljubica*
06-13-2005, 04:27 PM
Guess Sommar and I would be happy then - because it's much easier for us to get to Holland than Argentina - just a couple of hours on the train!!!!! ;)

Sommarsverige
06-13-2005, 09:34 PM
Rosie, I am really, really thinking of going to an eventual semifinal in Europe ;)

This is also the reason why I was quite "shocked" that Lleyton already started his comeback last week, but I still hope the Argentines will win though :)

elletrista
06-16-2005, 03:12 AM
Possible Team of Argentine

Cañas, Nalbandian , Coria and ((Puerta or Monaco not defined))

Singles possible Cañas and Nalbandian....

Go Argentina the Davis is Possible.-

Kristen
06-16-2005, 07:02 AM
2005 Quarterfinals (Tennis Australia)
Fitzy rates Australia's chances against Argentina (http://www.tennisaustralia.com.au/pages/default.aspx?id=4&PageID=8419)June 15, 2005


John Fitzgerald, captain of the Optus Australian Davis Cup team, is in London to watch the Australian players through Wimbledon. He sat down with Craig Gabriel to preview Australia's Davis Cup quarterfinal tie against Argentina on grass at the Sydney International Tennis Centre, 15 to 17 July.

Q. John what are your early thoughts on this Davis Cup quarterfinal tie between Australia and Argentina in July?

JOHN FITZGERALD: Well, I think I'm very aware of who the opposition is more than anything, and we just need to get all of our players to the line and fit and healthy. It's been a funny year so far for the Aussie boys, particularly Lleyton and Mark; they haven't played a ton of tennis in recent months.

So we're just hoping we can get through this UK summer and get some matches under the belt and then get to the line healthy. I'm very concerned and understand the strength of the opposition, and that's a fact. They're gonna be tough to beat.

Q. The Argentine media are telling me that the Argentines have got no hope to beat Australia on grass in Sydney.
JOHN FITZGERALD: Is that right?

Q. I think you're a little bit more of a wily, old fox to look at it that way.
JOHN FITZGERALD: (Laughing). I think it would be very silly to underestimate Argentina. They've got five guys in the Top 20. They've got two more guys just outside of the Top 20. They're awfully good- awfully good. And they're strong and fit and physical. They can transfer a clay court game on to grass fairly comfortably these days. I mean, you look at Nalbandian; he's been in the final of Wimbledon. You don't get there without being able to play on grass. And Canas has been in the Round of 16 there. He's accomplished on any surface and he's ranked about eight in the world now. So they're awfully strong.

Q. Fitzy, you just touched on the fact that Lleyton Hewitt and Mark Philippoussis haven't played that much tennis this year. How much of a matter of concern is that for you?
JOHN FITZGERALD: Look, I think in an ideal world you want-- you would prefer-- first of all, you've got to get to the line healthy. But if you know you're gonna get there healthy, then ideally what you'd want is a considerable amount of matches in the months preceding a tie with the appropriate rest time just, just prior.

It's a bit like race horses. You try to get some form under the belt, get some match practice, which is invaluable, and then just taper off and be fresh for the tie. So that's what you'd want, but it doesn't always work out that way. Sometimes you've got to grab matches when you can.

Q. Chris Guccione was saying that the opportunity he was given in Sydney, playing the dead rubber against Austria in the first round, was a major boost for him and something that he really enjoyed. So what about the likes of Guccione, Wayne Arthurs, Mark Philippoussis? Tough call for the second singles spot?
JOHN FITZGERALD: Well, I think it is. A lot depends on form here and at Wimbledon. And, you know, it's great to hear that from Chris because I think Davis Cup is going to be dear to his heart. I think he's going to carry on a good tradition. I've got a nice feeling about Chris that he might play his best tennis in that type of environment. He showed signs of that in Sydney even though it was a dead rubber.

I've got good hopes for Chris. I think at Davis Cup level he's going to perform well under that sort of pressure. He likes the team camaraderie and atmosphere.

Q. Finally, you've been captain now for the Australian team for a few years now, and you've played Davis Cup for a number of years. What is more nerve-wracking? What has given you the biggest thrill? Because you've won the Cup in both situations.
JOHN FITZGERALD: Yeah, look, it's very different. It's like comparing apples to oranges. When I was a kid, I just wanted to play for my country, and that was an amazing experience. But captaining is a very different thing. You take on more of a fatherly role. You feel more responsible for everybody. When you're a player, you're just trying to play the best you can, get chosen to play, and then leave everything on the court.

Here, you don't have to do that, but you have to be concerned about the well-being and the preparation of all of your players. And it's a bit more demanding in a lot of ways. But it was still a great thrill two years ago. It was different to playing in a final, but equally as rewarding.

Kristen
06-20-2005, 07:49 AM
You can vote for who you think should be Australias #2 singles player on this page:
http://www.tennisaustralia.com.au/pages/default.aspx?id=4&pageId=122
It's on the right, the orange section ;)

coriaelmago
06-20-2005, 09:58 AM
Possible Team of Argentine

Cañas, Nalbandian , Coria and ((Puerta or Monaco not defined))

Singles possible Cañas and Nalbandian....

Go Argentina the Davis is Possible.-
sure it's possible!!! so coria'll play on double????
bjorkman_girl who is the guy on your photo??? he's so handsome! :eek:

Via
06-21-2005, 07:29 AM
i've just read in the local paper, that they've installed some kind of heating system at homebush in sydney, to help the grass grow in winter :rolleyes:

kristen, please don't forget to give some tips on when the players will practise, when the time comes :wavey:

Denaon
06-21-2005, 03:45 PM
Everyone forget about Puerta :rolleyes:
:secret:It seems Mariano screwed it in Wimbly just to get rid of the obligation of flying to Australia for DC :haha:

Sommarsverige
06-21-2005, 07:04 PM
Denaon, when do you think we will get to know for sure who will play in the DC match???
I am so excited to know ;)

Denaon
06-21-2005, 07:15 PM
Denaon, when do you think we will get to know for sure who will play in the DC match???
I am so excited to know ;)
They say that Mancini will announce the team after Wimbledon.
By the matches played until now, I think Puerta's out of the team.
Coria and David (whichever results he gets) and maybe one doubles specialist (Etlis would be my first choice) We have to wait for Cañas and his recovery...(please God heal him) :lol: If Cañas can't make it, Chucho or Monaco are more likely to play.

Kristen
06-22-2005, 03:29 AM
coriaelmago- It's Adam Scott, and Australian golfer. He's 25 this year and is rather :drool: although some people don't like his voice :tape:
Via - sure thing :yeah: I've gotta try to get it right this time, and get there when the Argentines are playing...not the Aussies. Doh!
SommarSverige-I will be taking plenty of pics of the opponents! :haha: I'm estimating maybe 3 rolls of film :scratch:

jazz_girl
06-22-2005, 02:20 PM
The lastest news are David and Coria for singles, and maybe Arnold for doubles with David...Not confirmed though...Mancini wanted Etlis, but he said that he's only go with Rodriguez, so he's thinking about it now cause he just wants one doubles player...

Denaon
06-22-2005, 02:27 PM
The lastest news are David and Coria for singles, and maybe Arnold for doubles with David...Not confirmed though...Mancini wanted Etlis, but he said that he's only go with Rodriguez, so he's thinking about it now cause he just wants one doubles player...
Maybe they can do something but I feel like we're DOOMED :sad:

Action Jackson
06-22-2005, 02:30 PM
Acasuso or Monaco, maybe they can bring Frana out of retirement.

Denaon
06-22-2005, 02:37 PM
Acasuso or Monaco, maybe they can bring Frana out of retirement.
:lol: Probably that'd be their best move for this tie :lol:

Via
06-23-2005, 12:08 AM
Via - sure thing :yeah: I've gotta try to get it right this time, and get there when the Argentines are playing...not the Aussies. Doh!


well i don't mind that much watching the aussies.... but with the kind of weather we've been having lately, it would take me a lot of willpower to stay for more than a few minutes :p so it would be nice to get the timing just right lol

the poor argentines are suffering from a diminishing selection field though

jazz_girl
06-23-2005, 12:34 AM
Maybe they can do something but I feel like we're DOOMED :sad:
I know :sad:

bad gambler
06-23-2005, 08:24 AM
Now that Canas is gone and flip with some matches under his belt, Australia better walk this

jazz_girl
06-25-2005, 11:31 AM
It's still not official, but this is how the Argentine team will be: Nalbandian, Coria, Etlis and Rodriguez.

Kristen
06-27-2005, 10:49 AM
Fitzy! :hug: I'd definitely 'go' for him if I was older ;)
Davis Cup captain John Fitzgerald will give injured pair Mark Philippoussis and Wayne Arthurs until the last minute before naming his team for next month's quarter-final against Argentina.

Fully aware of the lack of depth available to him, Fitzgerald needs Philippoussis and Arthurs fit to back up world No.2 Lleyton Hewitt against the strong Argentines in Sydney from July 15.

They went into Wimbledon fighting for the second singles berth behind Hewitt, but both suffered injuries in second round losses last week.

Philippoussis, world No.142 and dropping, has had a scan on the right ankle he injured in his straight sets loss to Marat Safin to go with the groin, left ankle and back injuries which have bogged down his 2005 season.

World No.86 Arthurs strained his Achilles tendon which, following his five sets loss to Alexander Popp, he said felt like it was going to "snap off".

But Fitzgerald, who must name his team by Tuesday, July 5, was confident both injuries were not serious.

Advertisement
Advertisement"We don't have bucketloads of players to choose from," Fitzgerald said at Wimbledon.

"I know in my own mind what I think should happen but I don't want to name it until next Tuesday.

"We don't need to announce it before that, so we won't.

"I want to make sure everyone's feeling fit and healthy and let them recover after a campaign here on the grass.

"I'd love to have all the guys available which they are and the main thing is to let them settle down.

"The good thing is they've all made themselves available.

"I'll speak to them at the end of the week to see how they're developing."

Fitzgerald said he had not heard any negative reports from Philippoussis's scan, while Arthurs was bound to be sore after a five-set doubles match last week followed the next day by his four hour singles epic.

"He finished the match, he played to 14-12 in the fifth, so he'll have some sore patches," Fitzgerald said.

"He's going to be stiff, he was there for four hours."

Adding to Fitzgerald's worries is the form of the Argentinians at Wimbledon on grass, the surface which has been specially laid at the Olympic courts in Sydney for the quarter-final.

Even with world No.8 Guillermo Canas out of the Cup while he is under investigation for a positive drugs test, the South Americans will still pack a formidable team.

Former Wimbledon finalist David Nalbandian and French Open runner-up Guillermo Coria were both into the fourth round at Wimbledon, while their doubles pairing of Gaston Etlis and Martin Rodriguez was in the third round.

Hewitt was the only Australian beyond the second round, while no Australians figured in the doubles.

But Fitzgerald said there was never any doubt about playing the quarter-final on grass, regardless of the assistance the Argentinians - noted clay court performers - will gain from a good Wimbledon campaign.

"We still would have played on grass, we weren't going to go back to clay," Fitzgerald said.

"Nalbandian has played in a Wimbledon final, he can play on it, but overall it's the best surface for us to play them.

"They've had a few matches on it, they're going to be tough, they're quality."

jazz_girl
06-30-2005, 12:16 AM
The official thing for Argentina is that Nalbandian and Coria will be playing the singles matches and that Etlis, Rodriguez and Puerta will be going to Australia, and the Captain will choose who will be playing the doubles match. My guess is that it will be Etlis/Rodriguez, cause they have a lot of experienced and have been playing together for a while now.
As for the Australian team, I'm not too sure. I know that Hewitt will be playing the singles macthes, but since Woodbridge retired, I just heard that he'll be also playing the doubles match with Arthurs. Is that right? Will the other singlist be Philippoussis or will Arthurs do the job?

bad gambler
06-30-2005, 02:02 AM
I'd say Aus Team will be:

Singles:
Hewitt
Flip

Doubles:
Hanley & Arthurs

Squad members - Gooch and Reid

bad gambler
06-30-2005, 01:58 PM
I'd say Aus Team will be:

Singles:
Hewitt
Flip

Doubles:
Hanley & Arthurs

Squad members - Gooch and Reid
ok scrap this, I just heard that the most likely scenario will be hewitt and wayno in the singles and both play in the doubles

flip's status looks bleak.

jazz_girl
06-30-2005, 02:54 PM
Thanks for the update.

Kristen
07-01-2005, 06:01 AM
ok scrap this, I just heard that the most likely scenario will be hewitt and wayno in the singles and both play in the doubles

flip's status looks bleak.
Would they really risk Lleyton by putting him in the doubles? Why did I buy tickets to this tie! LOL Aussie tennis really IS crap without Lleyton isn't it :haha:

Vamos!
PS. Where did you hear it? Didn't you also hear that X-Factor was getting the axe!? :lol: I got my hopes up for that one ;)

Was it here:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=27701

willie
07-05-2005, 06:02 AM
if its true, the australian team will be lleyton, arthurs, guccione and huss(thats what i read) i think argentina has real chances:).
the following are sure results:
lleyton will defeat coria(aus 1-0 arg)
coria and nalbandian will defeat arthurs or guccione(aus 1-2 arg)
the match between hewitt and nalbandian is almost 100% favourable for lleyton, but i still see a chance on david.....doesnt matter, imagine lleyton finally wins as everybody thinks(aus 2-2 arg)
the crucial point will be the doubles, etlis-rodriguez against arthurs and huss i think....

bad gambler
07-05-2005, 07:20 AM
Well I can confirm flip is definitely out, so the team is now as follows:

Hewitt, Arthurs, Gooch and Luczak.

bad gambler
07-05-2005, 12:08 PM
lleyton will defeat coria(aus 1-0 arg)
coria and nalbandian will defeat arthurs or guccione(aus 1-2 arg)
the match between hewitt and nalbandian is almost 100% favourable for lleyton, but i still see a chance on david.....doesnt matter, imagine lleyton finally wins as everybody thinks(aus 2-2 arg)

hmm not so sure willie - I think argentina have to hope that Coria draws Hewitt and Nalby draws arthurs first day in the singles because IMO Arthurs will beat Coria. Nalby def has a better chance to take out Arthurs.

If Aus are 2-0 after the first day, then obviously it will be all over.

Guille_ElMago
07-05-2005, 01:22 PM
I agree bad gambler. I think Guille will have a much favorable shot of taking out Hewitt than Arthurs; the same with Nalby taking out Arthurs. I think Etlis/Rodriguez are a pretty good dubs team, so hopefully they got enough to take out Arthurs/Huss. I think the doubles will be the most crucial because I'm predicting and hoping that all the singles player rack up a win each.

Chris_JCF
07-05-2005, 04:15 PM
Is Nalbandien preferred to Gaudio in Argentina? Orw is it just because of the grass?

Im sorry, im not particularly clued up about them.

With the Aussies laying down grass to throw the Argies off, youd say things would favour Hewitt and Philipousis a lot, buts Coria has the ground strokes to damage Hewitt as does Nalbanidan, who allways does well on grass. Should be some good matchs.

*Ljubica*
07-05-2005, 05:46 PM
Is Nalbandien preferred to Gaudio in Argentina? Orw is it just because of the grass?

Im sorry, im not particularly clued up about them.

With the Aussies laying down grass to throw the Argies off, youd say things would favour Hewitt and Philipousis a lot, buts Coria has the ground strokes to damage Hewitt as does Nalbanidan, who allways does well on grass. Should be some good matchs.

David is the highest ranked Argentine on the ATP Entry System now - if you disregard Cañas who has discounted himself from this tie for personal reasons. He is also the best Argentine player on grass, whereas Gaudio admits himself that he hates grass and didn't even attempt to play Wimbledon or any of the grass court warm-up events.

As bad_gamber said earlier, Mark P. is already out of the Australian Team due to injury, but I still can't see Argentina winning. David can probably beat Arthurs, and the Argentine doubles' team are highly ranked doubles' specialists who may spring a surpirse, but I can't see David beating Hewitt on grass in Asutralia, and I don't think Coria is good enough on grass yet to cause any major damage.

Action Jackson
07-05-2005, 05:51 PM
The 1st day will be this line up

Hewitt vs Coria
Arthurs vs Nalbandian

The order obviously I don't know, but the combo will be like that, maybe it will be good if Nalbandian plays first.

jazz_girl
07-05-2005, 07:08 PM
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/07/05/um/m-1008441.htm

Many news!!!!
The team confirmed so far is: David, Guillermo and Etlis. Then, Mancini will confirm who's gonna play: if Mariano or Rodriguez.
They will all be going to Australia tomorrow. And they'll start training in the Olympic Stadium on Friday.
There was a press conference today, with the whole team, and Mancini said that he's well aware that Australia is the favourite, however Argentina will give them a battle. He also confirmed Coria and David for the singles, and he'll decide the doubles team in Sydney. But it will be built by two of these three guys: Etlis, Rodriguez or Puerta.
David said: "without Philippoussis and Woodbridge, Australia is not the same. They always inspire respect. Besides, it's possible that Hewitt plays singles and doubles, so that should make him tired."
Coria said: "My aspiration is to beat Hewitt...or at least make him tired. We're not favourites, but we have chances."
Australia's team is this: Hewitt, Arthurs, Guccione and Luczak.
www.daviscup.com

Truc
07-05-2005, 08:02 PM
I don't get the point with Puerta. Why would he play the doubles? Is Rodriguez injured? If Nalbandian or Coria are injured and one of the double players must play the singles too, Argentina will lose anyway.
(I really like Mariano, but I saw his first round match in Wimbledon because he was playing against Burgsmuller and I live in Germany, it was awful.)

jazz_girl
07-05-2005, 08:06 PM
I agree, Mariano should be OUT!

Denaon
07-05-2005, 08:09 PM
You just don't get it, do you??
Mariano is trying to Find Nemo!!!!
That's the main reason for him to travel to Sidney! :haha:

Denaon
07-05-2005, 08:11 PM
:lol: I'm so gonna add a Finding Nemo's thread in Mariano's Forum!!! :lol:

jazz_girl
07-05-2005, 08:15 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Chris_JCF
07-05-2005, 11:08 PM
What was so bad about him a Wimbledon?

I was surprised he went down so easily when I saw the result. Id have thought with the big hard ground strokes and the serve he could have done ok on grass.

jazz_girl
07-06-2005, 12:46 AM
He's never won a set on grass, so even though he's a great clay courter, he shouldn't be in the team.

bad gambler
07-06-2005, 12:52 AM
Puerta is just a training partner though isn't he for this tie?

jazz_girl
07-06-2005, 12:59 AM
We're not sure. There was a press conference today and the Captain said that it is confirmed that David and Guillermo will be playing singles and that Etlis will be playing doubles. Since today there was a deadline to give a "formal" list of players, he added Rodriguez, however he'll decided who'll join Etlis after watching the practices in Australia. If it's not Rodriguez I really hope it's David then.

Kristen
07-06-2005, 02:49 PM
Is anyone else planning on attending any of the training sessions next week?
(It's free / good opportunity to see them play/take photos etc)
I'm assuming they will be at 10, and 1pm (or was it 2pm!?) like they were in March, but will call them closer to the day to confirm which team trains at which time.

FYI:
Tennis NSW: (02) 9763 7644
Tennis Centre: (02)8746 0777

jazz_girl
07-06-2005, 02:58 PM
Coria: "How to beat Hewitt? Putting on a Federer mask. Although today, David has a better game than Hewitt." "I'll try to move him a lot, and if I can't beat him, at least I'll make him tired for the rest of the matches"
http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=194905&IdxSeccion=100707

Denaon
07-06-2005, 03:08 PM
Is anyone else planning on attending any of the training sessions next week?
(It's free / good opportunity to see them play/take photos etc)
I'm assuming they will be at 10, and 1pm (or was it 2pm!?) like they were in March, but will call them closer to the day to confirm which team trains at which time.

FYI:
Tennis NSW: (02) 9763 7644
Tennis Centre: (02)8746 0777
You're such a lucky girl!!!!
Take lots of pics if you can!!!

Kristen
07-06-2005, 03:31 PM
Oh, I will be ;)
Not as many as the Austrian tie (5 rolls of film) but I'm estimating between 2-3, and I have a decent camera so hopefully the pics will turn out ok. (See 'tennis photos' link in my signature, for the kind of pics I'll try to get :yeah: )

I'm not a fan of Argentina... but it's only because I haven't seen the guys play before, so it will be exciting. I'll post the url to my photos (although, it should end up in the same area as all of my other pics) when I get them scanned... :)

willie
07-06-2005, 04:19 PM
coria is so funny...........
in an interview for tv:
question:what do you have to do to defeat lleyton hewitt?
coria:ill put a federer's mask:lol:

Lisbeth
07-06-2005, 06:31 PM
:haha: at Coria's comment! That's really funny.

I don't think Australia are such clear favourites as some seem to think. However, hoping Hewitt gets tired isn't such a great tactic either ;) I'm looking forward to the singles match-ups very much! Should be a good weekend of tennis :)

margaret_gn
07-06-2005, 11:45 PM
Is anyone else planning on attending any of the training sessions next week?
(It's free / good opportunity to see them play/take photos etc)
I'm assuming they will be at 10, and 1pm (or was it 2pm!?) like they were in March, but will call them closer to the day to confirm which team trains at which time.

FYI:
Tennis NSW: (02) 9763 7644
Tennis Centre: (02)8746 0777

yes i am :D do you know what day it will be next week?

Via
07-07-2005, 12:20 AM
didn't someone say the argentines will start practising tomorrow (friday)?? i can't wait, i'll certainly go to one of the training sessions! i guess i'm similar to you kristen... not that i am that interested in them, but that i've never seen them ;)

i'll give my old digital camera one last chance... if on the first day it still doesn't come up to scratch.. lol... i'll toss it away and get another one right away :lol:

thanks for the phone numbers :yeah: you know what i tend to just drive there and have a look. but yeah the petrol is getting too expensive!

jazz_girl
07-07-2005, 12:49 AM
The guys left to Australia two hours ago, and according to our newspapers they'll start training in the Sydney Stadium on friday.

bad gambler
07-07-2005, 01:13 AM
Is anyone else planning on attending any of the training sessions next week?
(It's free / good opportunity to see them play/take photos etc)
I'm assuming they will be at 10, and 1pm (or was it 2pm!?) like they were in March, but will call them closer to the day to confirm which team trains at which time.

FYI:
Tennis NSW: (02) 9763 7644
Tennis Centre: (02)8746 0777


Australia are practising today out at Homebush :confused:

Kristen
07-07-2005, 04:59 AM
I said next week, because that's when I'm going.;)
(LOL Margaret :p I know you're going! hehe... I'll bring the tojo newspaper articles and old aus Open tapes and stuff! :yeah: )

I'm thinking about going on the Tuesday or something. I'll have to contact GWH and see when he'll be in town... I'm even curious to see Luczak :eek::tape::yeah:

*Ljubica*
07-07-2005, 05:26 AM
I said next week, because that's when I'm going.;)
(LOL Margaret :p I know you're going! hehe... I'll bring the tojo newspaper articles and old aus Open tapes and stuff! :yeah: )

I'm thinking about going on the Tuesday or something. I'll have to contact GWH and see when he'll be in town... I'm even curious to see Luczak :eek::tape::yeah:


Luczak is cute :)

Kristen
07-07-2005, 07:17 AM
Luczak is cute :)
I agree :D
I want to assess his hair situation. It's all about the hair:angel:

margaret_gn
07-07-2005, 11:28 AM
I said next week, because that's when I'm going.;)
(LOL Margaret :p I know you're going! hehe... I'll bring the tojo newspaper articles and old aus Open tapes and stuff! :yeah: )

I'm thinking about going on the Tuesday or something. I'll have to contact GWH and see when he'll be in town... I'm even curious to see Luczak :eek::tape::yeah:

ok just sms me when you find out the exact time :) oh and remember the DC ticket for Saturday (you probably have it all prepared, but just in case, cos it wasn't listed above lol!) yeah I can tolerate Luczak since he so willingly lost to ToJo in Melbourne this year ;)

Kristen
07-07-2005, 04:35 PM
ok just sms me when you find out the exact time :) oh and remember the DC ticket for Saturday (you probably have it all prepared, but just in case, cos it wasn't listed above lol!) yeah I can tolerate Luczak since he so willingly lost to ToJo in Melbourne this year ;)
Indeed. They are in the envelope with the newspapers. I KNEW I'd forget I put them in there :haha: I'll call the tennis centre on Monday arvo to get the training times for Tues and Wednesday if possible. :wavey:

Via
07-07-2005, 11:47 PM
looks like next week will be a better time for watching (and training!), with the rain today and this weekend!

good luck girls - if you run into me next week, don't forget to say hi :)

jazz_girl
07-08-2005, 03:28 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/tennis/argentina-expect-a-twohander/2005/07/08/1120704559075.html?oneclick=true
Argentina expect a two-hander
Argentina's captain Alberto Mancini expects Lleyton Hewitt and Wayne Arthurs to play the whole quarter-final Davis Cup tie for the Australians.

Mancini predicts his men will line up against the doubles combination of Hewitt and Arthurs in the tie, from July 15-17 at the Sydney International Tennis Centre.

While Davis Cup captain John Fitzgerald and coach Wally Masur have not stated who will play the doubles for Australia, Mancini said although it would be "tough" on both players, picking the experienced combination of Hewitt and Arthurs might be too hard to resist.

"Obviously the strongest man is Lleyton," Mancini said. "I think it's going to be a tough couple of ties [for them] - I think Lleyton plays quite good doubles also, he likes to play. When he plays he has good results. I believe with Arthurs they have a good doubles team also."

"The Australians have a strong team - they are here on their favourite grasscourt, they have experienced players on this type of court, they have a really strong player in Lleyton and Arthurs is a really hard man to beat on grass."

Mancini said David Nalbandian and Guillermo Coria would play the singles for the Argentinians. But the doubles? "We don't know yet," he said.

When asked whether Hewitt and Arthurs might play the entire tie, Fitzgerald replied that both were in great form on the grass surface. He said a final decision would be made next Thursday when the Argentinians announce their team.

"They deserve to have a fair chance to play both of those boys," Fitzgerald said. "Their form's been good. For Lleyton, after doing what he did at Wimbledon after having a few months off was rather outstanding. People expect him to get to those latter rounds of major tournaments, but after having three months off, to hit the ball so cleanly and go through. And [Roger] Federer was the only guy that was going to stop him. I don't think anyone else would have at Wimbledon."

"He's such a class player and Wayne is hitting the ball well, too. We feel with another week's preparation we will be ready."

The Argentinians had their first hit-up on Australian soil yesterday at White City. But before the racquets were pulled out of their bags - the soccer ball was booted around.

"It's going fine. We arrived this morning from a long trip, so we are just working out easy today," Mancini said.

"We were having some fun, playing some soccer to warm up, and then some tennis."

A group of children stood by and watched the Argentinians feverishly kick the ball around on a nearby school rugby field.

Fitzgerald is expecting the tie to be "really memorable", with the Argentinians, loaded with top-ranked players, a fierce lot to beat.

"They are extremely strong, extremely," he said. "They've got one guy ranked 10 in the world, one ranked 12 and one ranked 15th … along with Spain they are ranked in the top two tennis nations in men's tennis."

"We know what they can do. They are very accomplished on grass. There's no question that clay is their best surface, but they can really play well on this surface, as they proved at Wimbledon last week. This is a tough ask in our sport for any country to go head-to-head with. They are very difficult to beat."

The Argentinians looked strong yesterday in their first hit-out, which lasted about two hours.

Nalbandian (No.10) was a quarter-finalist at Wimbledon last week, while Coria (15) made it through to the fourth round.

Mariano Puerta (12) and doubles specialist Gaston Etlis were also there hitting up at White City.

For the hosts, Pat Rafter was back in the Davis Cup camp yesterday. He was a doubles partner for Peter Luczak, and no, unfortunately, there'll be no comeback for the US Open winner.

"He'll be in the States by the time all this starts," Fitzgerald said. "He's just happy to hit a few balls and contribute. It's great to have him around."

bad gambler
07-08-2005, 11:40 PM
thanks jazzy :boxing:

jazz_girl
07-09-2005, 12:25 PM
Pics from today's practice sessions:

Trace
07-09-2005, 01:42 PM
Woo nice pics. Gosh, am I the only Aussie going for the Argies? No patriotism for me...

delsa
07-09-2005, 06:50 PM
Woo nice pics. Gosh, am I the only Aussie going for the Argies? No patriotism for me...
How could it be another way with Lleyton in "your" team? :devil: Noone can blame you...

jazz_girl
07-09-2005, 07:38 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/tennis/youve-let-us-down-woodie-alexander/2005/07/09/1120704601455.html?oneclick=true
You've let us down Woodie: Alexander
Fed Cup captain and former Davis Cup legend John Alexander has slammed Todd Woodbridge, saying he has left Australia in the lurch by retiring just before their crunch Davis Cup quarter-final against Argentina this week.

Alexander believes Woodbridge's emotional retirement from the game after his surprise second-round exit from the doubles at Wimbledon has effectively reduced Australia to a two-man team, with Lleyton Hewitt almost certain to play singles and doubles when the tie kicks off at the Sydney International Tennis Centre on Friday.

"I think he's letting the team down and his teammates down," Alexander said. "I was disappointed with the timing of Todd's retirement. You would have thought he's trained for Wimbledon and he's fit.

"It might have been an emotional decision to retire or he's just had enough, I don't know, but it's very late notice and very disappointing.

"I guess when you've had so many players over a long period of time and in recent times Lleyton and Pat [Rafter] who would have crawled across a desert to play, we all feel a little short-changed somehow."
Alexander believes Australia's second-string singles player Wayne Arthurs, ranked 77 in the world, could struggle to win either of his singles matches against world No.10 and Wimbledon quarter-finalist David Nalbandian and No.15 Guillermo Coria, making the doubles match-up crucial to Australia's hopes of progressing to the semi-finals.

And Australia will have to do it without a specialised doubles pairing when Hewitt and Arthurs are thrown together for the crucial clash.

Replacements for Woodbridge could have included reigning Wimbledon doubles champion Stephen Huss or doubles specialists Paul Hanley and Todd Perry, both ranked in the world's top 20, but captain John Fitzgerald has elected to contest the tie without them.

On the other hand, Argentina have doubles specialists in Gaston Etlis and Martin Rodriguez or could even play Mariano Puerta, who is ranked No.12 in the world for singles.

Alexander says Woodbridge's retirement, combined with Mark Philippoussis's late withdrawal with an ankle injury, means Australia are rank outsiders to beat the Argentinians, despite playing on grass and having the home-court advantage.

"With Mark fit and Todd playing we would have been reasonably good favourites, but at the moment we're definitely underdogs," he said. "Is Wayne likely to win one match against those two guys? He's a bit of a chance to win one match but it will be tough."

Argentina have five players ranked in the top 15 in the world; Australia's only player ranked in the top 50 is Hewitt at No.2. The remaining spots on the hosts' roster will be filled by youngsters Peter Luczak (147) and Chris Guccione (183).

"This will give the opportunity to either Peter Luczak or Chris Guccione to step up and have a go," Alexander said. "They have the opportunity to do great things. Both are toiling away and practising hard."

However, because of the importance of the tie, it is unlikely Fitzgerald will play Guccione or Luczak in anything other than dead rubbers.

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-09-2005, 10:04 PM
dont think argentina has a chance in this one

Kristen
07-10-2005, 02:36 PM
Woo nice pics. Gosh, am I the only Aussie going for the Argies? No patriotism for me...
haha surprisingly (or not) there are quite a few of us. However, I am refraining from buying a flag for Argentina. Perhaps if I'd seen a match by one of their guys, or knew how to say their names, things would be different.

*Ljubica*
07-10-2005, 02:54 PM
haha surprisingly (or not) there are quite a few of us. However, I am refraining from buying a flag for Argentina. Perhaps if I'd seen a match by one of their guys, or knew how to say their names, things would be different.

Just shout "Vamos" a lot - that should work ;) And what's so difficult about David...........?!

Kristen
07-10-2005, 03:25 PM
Unless he is Day-vid...nothing. But just going by the other guys names, I don't even know if I could get david right. I always thought Simon Aspelin was "SIGH-mon" until I actually asked him how to pronounce it (seeMON), and I don't want to look like a :retard: again :lol: Then again... having the fanatics around should take care of any :retard: behaviour.

Will go to training this week and have a lesson from GWH as to the pronounciation. Won't even bother with the name Guillermo though. That's too much for this uneducated monolingual Australian :angel: ;) Might have to ask Coria to (pretty) please (with a cherry on top?) quit beating Jurgen at Grand Slams, unless he intends to win them :tape: ...or not.

*Ljubica*
07-10-2005, 03:33 PM
Unless he is Day-vid...nothing. But just going by the other guys names, I don't even know if I could get david right. I always thought Simon Aspelin was "SIGH-mon" until I actually asked him how to pronounce it (seeMON), and I don't want to look like a :retard: again :lol: Then again... having the fanatics around should take care of any :retard: behaviour.

Will go to training this week and have a lesson from GWH as to the pronounciation. Won't even bother with the name Guillermo though. That's too much for this uneducated monolingual Australian :angel: ;) Might have to ask Coria to (pretty) please (with a cherry on top?) quit beating Jurgen at Grand Slams, unless he intends to win them :tape: ...or not.

Well he is actually DAH-VEED, - but - trust me - he answers to an English sounding DAY-VID without any problems!!!! As for Coria - well.....just say Gi-JAIR-mo and he'll know what you mean? Enjoy yourself anyway!!!

Kristen
07-10-2005, 03:40 PM
Woo! Well, David is the one I am most excited to see... plus, it's always nice to cheer for the opponents in a thick Aussie accent. "C'mooonnnnn DAYvud!" (Ok, I wont sound like a redneck, but you know what I mean :lol: )

It might be a good idea for me to buy some more rolls of film, huh? ;) Only 2 left :P

jazz_girl
07-10-2005, 06:55 PM
:lol: It's nice to know some people will be cheering for them :lol:
I can't wait for the tie! It will be at 8:30pm here in Argentina, so it'll be the perfect timing to watch it while eating some yummy pizza! :)

Chris_JCF
07-10-2005, 07:00 PM
Fancy your chances then?

I wouldnt.

*Ljubica*
07-10-2005, 07:16 PM
:lol: It's nice to know some people will be cheering for them :lol:
I can't wait for the tie! It will be at 8:30pm here in Argentina, so it'll be the perfect timing to watch it while eating some yummy pizza! :)

Well we won't get TV coverage :sad: and the ties will start after midnight here, so I don't think I'll be staying up all night to follow online - especially on Thursday night when I have to work the next day. But I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope to find good news when I wake up in the morning. If it goes to the final day I may stay up and follow online for the last two matches - see how I feel nearer the time.

Kristen
07-11-2005, 04:15 AM
For those thinking about attending a training session:::
Tuesday, July 12 is as follows
Tennis Centre @ Olympic Park, Sydney
11am-1pm: Argentina training session
1.30pm-3.30pm: Australia training session.

If you need more info, Tennis NSW have it. 9763 7644

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 08:31 AM
What a fun moment cheering for the weasel.

Choupi
07-11-2005, 09:24 AM
What a fun moment cheering for the weasel.
Be strong! You'll manage to survive such a sacrifice! :D

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 09:27 AM
Be strong! You'll manage to survive such a sacrifice! :D

It's not like I haven't done it before.

Choupi
07-11-2005, 11:03 AM
It's not like I haven't done it before.
That's why I said you'll manage! :)

jazz_girl
07-11-2005, 11:09 AM
More pics from training sessions:

*Ljubica*
07-11-2005, 11:50 AM
What a fun moment cheering for the weasel.

:devil: :devil: Then you are a better person than me GWH - I would go to the Bar during those matches :devil:

jazz_girl
07-11-2005, 12:10 PM
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/0...tes/d-01601.htm
Argentina smiles and plays its game in Australia
"I have the couple in my head. I just have to get convinced". The same doubt that he's been having since he left Buenos Aires last wednesday, is still in his head. The Argentine Davis Cup team has been training since saturday here in Australia(friday in Argentina) and the time spent in Australia hasn't helped the Argentine Captain much to ease his doubts away, he still not sure on whether to choose Mariano Puerta to play doubles with Nalbandian or Etlis or that Martín Rodriguez takes his place to play with Etlis.

Luli's idea was to evaluate Puerta's adaptation to grass, here in Sydney. However, the court that they're been using so far hasn't helped much. White City complex, in Passington, it's not what it used to be. Their grass courts have humidity under the surface and they end up being very slow comparing them to the Sydney International Tennis Centre ones, where the series will take place.

There were two practces that, with the players tiredness for the trip and the time change, were little useful. To make things worse, on sunday it rain and there was no place to play tennis. When the weather's bad: Football!, claimed the players. They found a closed place in an artifical grass court and everyone played. Lightly, like Mancini asked them, and with joked to Iván Gutierrez (Coria's PT) and Diego Rivas (DC Kinesiologist) for reacieving all the goals.

And that's how the team is. That confidence dosis in being able to beat Australia which started in Buenos Aires, grew when they put a foot in Sydney and the general good mood is contagious. At lunch time, the Argentine table looked much more to a La Boca cantine than to an elegant Four Seasons hotel restaurant. The waiters had to put several tables together so the players could fit, and some of their friend and family (like Carla Coria and Sol Puerta), and the Argentine tecnical team. One table apart from them there was the Australian Team: John Fiztgerald -the captain- with Hewitt, Arthurs, Guccione and Luczak. There, you couldn't even hear a fly.

Without being able to play tennis, all the Argentine team members decided to have the afternoon free. They took some sightseeing and then at 6pm they had an espontanous gym reunion in the hotel. Etlis and Rodriguez were the first ones to get in, and while they walk in the machine they were saying "the singlists are training hard!". The Coria arrived and while he trained with his PT, he admired Rodriguez's bounces, and he told him "go on like that, you look like a kid". Nalbandian joined them with a short with 1 thousand colors. The VIP hotel guests that were in the gym couldn't believe what they were seeing. And even less when Adriana Campos (the secretary in charge of the team's agenda) joined them with a thermus and a "mate".

The good mood in the team is not the same as the whether for the next hours in Sydney. The sunday rain could last to wednesday. And that would be a shame because on monday the Argentine team has schedule they're first meeting with the court in which the series will take place. The team needs to play tennis on the fast grass courts of the Sydney International Tennis Centre and Mancini needs to see them in action to make the last conclusions. The series against Australia is getting closer. And we have to go on with this good mood.

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 12:21 PM
Got to love the weather in Sydney for sure, well too bad I should get one of my friends to tease David and say hey you have to get home for the rally.

jazz_girl
07-11-2005, 12:23 PM
Don't do that!!! Maybe he will go! :lol:

Choupi
07-11-2005, 12:35 PM
:devil: :devil: Then you are a better person than me GWH - I would go to the Bar during those matches :devil:
I would wander around in the alleys, seeking for other players or more interesting ppl... :devil: ;)

Jazz, I love the 3rd pic! :D

Julio1974
07-11-2005, 12:37 PM
Be strong! You'll manage to survive such a sacrifice! :D

It's true. I survived Gaudio's defeats in Mallorca and in Russia without any attempt to kill myself and to kill Gaudio.

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 12:41 PM
It's true. I survived Gaudio's defeats in Mallorca and in Russia without any attempt to kill myself and to kill Gaudio.

Yes, too bad many people that pissed on Gaudio afterwards, decided to cheer him on after he won RG.

DC does bring out some interesting reactions from players.

Julio1974
07-11-2005, 01:27 PM
Yes, too bad many people that pissed on Gaudio afterwards, decided to cheer him on after he won RG.

DC does bring out some interesting reactions from players.

It's totally true. But I went the other way. I used to cheer him a lot before RG (even after Mallorca where at least he showed his face) and now I'm not so fond of him anymore (but I don't hate him and I want him to win. I just don't like his fans who are obsessed with Coria).

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 01:35 PM
It's totally true. But I went the other way. I used to cheer him a lot before RG (even after Mallorca where at least he showed his face) and now I'm not so fond of him anymore (but I don't hate him and I want him to win. I just don't like his fans who are obsessed with Coria).

I don't give a crap about Coria, but since most Coria fans have probably missed the fact that I actually enjoy his game. I mean when I get people try and convince me a cramp is an injury I am going to treat them with contempt as no doctor would ever say it's an injury.

Julio1974
07-11-2005, 01:47 PM
[QUOTE=GeorgeWHitler]I don't give a crap about Coria, but since most Coria fans have probably missed the fact that I actually enjoy his game. I mean when I get people try and convince me a cramp is an injury I am going to treat them with contempt as no doctor would ever say it's an injury.[/QU

I was not talking about you and I don't want to get into the cramp debate (in fact, I agree with your conclusion).

All I said is there are some Gaudio's fans who are a bit obsessed with Coria and they cannot resist the temptation of attacking Coria in every single thread. Considering this a DC thread, I'd prefer not to read those kind of comments but I guess they are unavoidable. Maybe if Gaudio was a bit professional (and care about learning to play tennis on other surfaces) they would have the chance of watching Gaudio in this DC (because he certainly has the talent to play decently on all surfaces.

Kristen
07-11-2005, 01:48 PM
Oi GWH !!
Reply to your sms :p
Are you here yet?

Choupi
07-11-2005, 01:50 PM
It's true. I survived Gaudio's defeats in Mallorca and in Russia without any attempt to kill myself and to kill Gaudio.
Pleased to meet an exception among those who have turned their back on him after those losses. :) Personally I don't "hate" Coria. I'm able to make the distinction between the player and his game. I can appreciate his game, but never will do the same concerning the man. ;)

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 01:51 PM
All I said is there are some Gaudio's fans who are a bit obsessed with Coria and they cannot resist the temptation of attacking Coria in every single thread. Considering this a DC thread, I'd prefer not to read those kind of comments but I guess they are unavoidable. Maybe if Gaudio was a bit professional (and care about learning to play tennis on other surfaces) they would have the chance of watching Gaudio in this DC (because he certainly has the talent to play decently on all surfaces.

It goes both ways that some Coria fans are always trying to have a go at Gaudio for breathing air.

There is no point him playing this tie, he would have been worse than when Mancini was when he played on grass.

Julio1974
07-11-2005, 01:53 PM
Pleased to meet an exception among those who have turned their back on him after those losses. :) Personally I don't "hate" Coria. I'm able to make the distinction between the player and his game. I can appreciate his game, but never will do the same concerning the man. ;)

I posted about this question before. What the Argentine media did to Gaudio was disgusting, shocking and unacceptable. He was the only one to show his face in Mallorca (despite the fact he knew he was not playing well).

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 01:54 PM
Oi GWH !!
Reply to your sms :p
Are you here yet?

No, I am not and there has been an injury problem, but I will let you know later.

bad gambler
07-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Australia and Argentina are training tomorrow out at Homebush for those in Sydney

bad gambler
07-11-2005, 01:59 PM
bah, ignore my above post I just read the last couple of pages of this thread

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 01:59 PM
Australia and Argentina are training tomorrow out at Homebush for those in Sydney

How is the weather there?

Kristen
07-11-2005, 02:00 PM
bg, I hope they told you the same as me... Argentina 11-1, Australia 1.30-3.30?
geneve was out there and said they had some scheduling issues. Ahh well, it'll be nice to see the security guard again! If its the same as the Austria match :lol: You going bg?

GWH: Potential Freeze-your-ass-off weather. I worked at the football on Sunday and it was FREEZING! So windy. But other than that... not too bad. Not unbearable (except for Sunday ;))

bad gambler
07-11-2005, 02:01 PM
How is the weather there?


today was a bit overcast, but no rain where I'm at.

Not sure what the forecast is for the end of this week.

A DC in my home city and how am I going to be following it? Via the crappy DC website :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 02:03 PM
today was a bit overcast, but no rain where I'm at.

Not sure what the forecast is for the end of this week.

A DC in my home city and how am I going to be following it? Via the crappy DC website :rolleyes:

The DC website is a lot better than most.

Julio1974
07-11-2005, 02:03 PM
Now, talking about the match, don't you think that David should play the double? I think this is the key point and we won't win it with Etlis and Rodriguez. We need someone with more experience and talent. I don't give a damm if he is tired for the third match. He'll never beat Hewitt on grass in any case.

bad gambler
07-11-2005, 02:04 PM
bg, I hope they told you the same as me... Argentina 11-1, Australia 1.30-3.30?
geneve was out there and said they had some scheduling issues. Ahh well, it'll be nice to see the security guard again! If its the same as the Austria match :lol: You going bg?


yep those are the times i got - I've got a plane to catch tomorrow night but will try and get out there to watch the practice sessions.

I might see you there is you are going, I'll be the tall Indian guy wearing an aussie flag bandana, you wont be able to miss me :lol:

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 02:05 PM
Now, talking about the match, don't you think that David should play the double? I think this is the key point and we won't win it with Etlis and Rodriguez. We need someone with more experience and talent. I don't give a damm if he is tired for the third match. He'll never beat Hewitt on grass in any case.

Day 1 is the big one and if Argentina can make it 1-1 then that's where all the options can come into play.

bad gambler
07-11-2005, 02:08 PM
Now, talking about the match, don't you think that David should play the double? I think this is the key point and we won't win it with Etlis and Rodriguez. We need someone with more experience and talent. I don't give a damm if he is tired for the third match. He'll never beat Hewitt on grass in any case.
well its not like the aussie pairing are a seasoned doubles pairing so no aadvantage for australia there. To be honest I think Fitzgerald and Masur are banking on Arthurs winning at least one of his singles matches - I just hope their current move is not going to backfire like it did against France in 2001 DC final of playing both the singles players for the doubles as well.


Hanley should be in this team

Julio1974
07-11-2005, 02:08 PM
Day 1 is the big one and if Argentina can make it 1-1 then that's where all the options can come into play.

If I'm not wrong, David is playing Arthurs on day one. If the match is not 1-1 after day one, we are totally lost. But I'm confident that David will beat Arthurs. And I can assure you that Hewitt will beat Coria.

Action Jackson
07-11-2005, 02:10 PM
If I'm not wrong, David is playing Arthurs on day one. If the match is not 1-1 after day one, we are totally lost. But I'm confident that David will beat Arthurs. And I can assure you that Hewitt will beat Coria.

It depends on the order of play as well, those will be the matches.

If Nalle plays first it will be better than if Coria does, as Arthurs might rise and get really inspired for the match as Hewitt has given him the confidence.

Kristen
07-11-2005, 02:13 PM
I will be sitting there quietly with my stalkerish camera. I will even be watching some of the Aussies too :eek:. I could probably appreciate Hewitt's tennis in a not-incredibly competitive atmosphere :lol: plus...you know... gotta have the Luczak perve :tape:

I will try to wear blue :p but yeah, I have a fair idea of what you look like and I should be able to pick you from those other Indian guys I see wearing Aussie bandannas ;)

Via
07-11-2005, 11:20 PM
hi...... thanks for posting the 'opening times' :D .... i'm *likely* to be there some time today, and i now know what kristen looks like :angel: but i will too be very quiet with a camera, hopefully the sun will come out for me....

cheers

RogiFan88
07-12-2005, 03:19 AM
Did anyone see Pat Rafter training w the AUS DC team?? ;) [w his Warrior Pat warpaint?]

Anyway,

VAMOS, ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clara Bow
07-12-2005, 05:35 AM
Wow- David looks so happy in the training pictures that you all have posted. In particular in the cute soccer pictures. Nice to see. :)

Kristen
07-12-2005, 07:14 AM
Oh my god!
I love tennis! And I love the man who sent me into the main building, at the tennis, because I was busting for the toilet :tape: lol!

Sommarsverige
07-12-2005, 07:15 AM
Have fun everyone who will go :)

I so much hope that Argentina will win, so do your best, Kristen ;) :hug:

Kristen
07-12-2005, 07:38 AM
More about today:
I'm a little excited at the moment because....I just arrived home, from an afternoon of watching David Nalbandian and Peter Luczak. I had a photo with David, I guess he's the only one I'm really interested in watching. Guillermo Coria was standing in front of me and I didn't notice. Somehow all I could see, was Mariano Puerta, and Coria was just standing there, being harassed by the local photographers.

Lleyton took a different entrance into the main building (Arthurs, Luczak and Guccione entered the usual way). Of course, it's understandable. You don't want young children harassing you, their idol, for autographs. I enjoy it when he meets my expectations. I will however, give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he had something he was running late for. I am doubtful.

Also, the grasscourt looked...muddy. Bad.

I was going to go again tomorrow, but their training schedule is a bit screwed up, so I'll go again on Thursday instead.

Chloe le Bopper
07-12-2005, 07:55 AM
Lleyton took a different entrance into the main building (Arthurs, Luczak and Guccione entered the usual way). Of course, it's understandable. You don't want young children harassing you, their idol, for autographs. I enjoy it when he meets my expectations. I will however, give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he had something he was running late for. I am doubtful.

.

:haha:

Kristen
07-12-2005, 09:29 AM
Tomorrow:
Australia 10-12
Argentina 2-4.

I'm pretty sure that was it. If you want to confirm before you go, it's 97637644. I'll be there again on Thursday, when the training schedule is a little closer together... like, 11-2! :)

Julio1974
07-12-2005, 12:33 PM
David said in an interview for La Nacion that it's easier to win the double than to beat Hewitt. So, I think he is likely to play the double with Etlis. They were practising together yesterday.

jazz_girl
07-12-2005, 12:46 PM
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/720593
Nalbandian: An ace on grass
With just 23 years old, David Nalbandian is the man with more DC experience of the five members Alberto Mancini called to the challenge against Australia in the next Davis Cup QF, which start will be next friday. With a record of 8 wins and just one defeat, against Marat Safin, in Moscow, in his bebut in 2002, there's also the capacity the cordobes posseses to perform on grass, something that also shows in his recent Wimbledon QF, and in his final in 2002 against Hewitt and made him the first Argentine finalist in the All England.

Today, with a wide experience in the circuit, Nalbandian is, with Guillermo Coria, one of the two aces of the national team. With an amazing naturality, he moves from one side to the other in the central court of the Sydney International Tennis Centre, but when he talks to the press, Nalbandian leaves his individualism aside and shows his team spirit.

-David, for all your grass records, do you feel like carrying the flag in this team?
-We all have to give our best to win the series. It's complicated. Even if I have the best results on grass, each one of them must give the best to win it, because with just one player there's nothing we can do. Guillermo (Coria) has been playing well and I have a lot of faith in him, and the doubles, due to Woodbridge's retirement, it's even better for us. We have to tighten up for that point.

-In march, when the rival was known and it was Australia, there was some talking about grass and the bothering it usually provokes in the Argentine players. Beyond the inconvenients for the court's state, the five of you seem confortable, with a different attitude.
-We're fine, knowing they're more favourite than us. It's a tough series, but we have a lot of possibilities. We know that playing on grass is not the best for us, but we have a very good team that can win.

-A quiz in the local TV assures that Australia is just favourite by 53%. Do you agree?
-Just 53%?! I would say 60%

-Wally Masur, one of the responsables of the local team, said that your presence and Coria's it's a whole dilemma for Australia.
-Masur shows the same respect we have towards them. If it were in some other surface, we would be the favourites, but grass makes them more favourites to them. I can't deny the respect we have for them. They've showed they're great players and Australia, in its history, won many times the DC. We shouldn't underestimate them. I also think that the crowd will play a great role in the series.

-Personally, who much is this series worth to you knowing you had an irregular year?
-It's important. Even more because the DC is something all of us want to win. I think we should take advantage of all the opportunities. Even if this year we didn't have the ideal draw to win it, I think we shouldn't let our chances go away. We're in the QF and (Mark) Philippoussis and Woodbridge are out, something we didn't think it could happen. If we can take advantage of it, it's better.

-What's your season analysis?
-I had a great Wimbledon and that allowed me to recover some confidence I had lost. I come here quite well for the Davis Cup, which always gives you an extra motivation.

-I'll take a little bit further in the past. What happened to you in Hallem in the match you were disqualified against Schuettler?
-I was mad, I was tired and the chip in my head blocked. After that I felt badly, I went home, and took a few days off. I think it was good to me to stop and rest.

-The fact that you and Coria are here without coaches, has a especial meaning?
-No, I think we have Luli (Mancini) and a great tecnical team. It wasn't necessary that the people that's usually with me would come too, knowing the distance they have to travel to come to Australia.

-You played two important matches against Hewitt. One was the Wimbledon final, on grass, and another one here, this year in the Australian Open in which you lost by very little. What do you have to do to beat him?
-He's a very tough guy. In january it could have been to anyone of us. The key point in Australia is him, and I think he has more possibilities to win his two matches than we have to beat him. But we'll have to win both points and the doubles. And if we can edge Hewitt out, the better.

-That's the key then? Both Arthurs points and the doubles?
-I think so. It's easier to win the doubles than to take a point off of Hewitt.

Etlis, a strong candidate for the doubles
Even if the captain Alberto Mancini doesn't want to talk till the wednesday dinner and say who the other singlist will be, the last practice session could give us a hint: Gastón Etlis trained with Martín Rodriguez and with David Nalbandian, which would put Mariano Puerta aside.

For now they're just guesses which doesn't affect the team's mood. The five players came here knowing one of them wouldn't play, and even Puerta commented that if he wasn't part of the team he would leave on thursday to participate in the Amersfoort tournament.

The practice started with Nalbandian and Coria making some rallies, and when it was time for the doubles, he went to White City, and there he trained with the Junior
Leonardo Mayer, the Argentine team sparring.

jazz_girl
07-12-2005, 12:48 PM
Coria:
-Is Hewitt unbeatablen on grass and as a local?
—If you put on a Federer mask, no (laughs). That's the only unbeatable. I trust in David beating Hewitt, he's got a better game than him. I'll put on a fight and if I can't make it, at least I'll try to make him tired, because he'll be playing the three days.

-You praise David a lot.
—Yes, but not just on grass. He's a very complete player and cand destroy you in any surface. He's very respected in the circuit. That's why it's so important he's ours, Argentine.
David said that he felt really confortable playing doubles with Puerta and Etlis. But he knows Etlis better cause they've played a tournament together.
Etlis: "I'm sure Nalbandian will play it, unless he doesn't want to or if he's too tired to play on friday."
The court is in a bad state, the grass hasn't been cut and it was too humid. David thinks they will cut it to make it faster on friday.
And a newspaper told that after the Australian team ended their practice, the captain went to greet the Argentines, however Arthurs and Hewitt left without even saying hi.

jazz_girl
07-12-2005, 01:19 PM
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/0...tes/d-05201.htm
There's a couple
On monday there was a revelation day in Australia. Because finally, after 4 days, the argentine team could put a foot on the Sydney International Tennis Centre court. And also because the captain, Alberto Mancini gave some clear signs of the doubles team, an enigma yet to be resolved.

Nalbandian and Coria started practicing for 60 minutes, and getting used to the court. And what bothered them the most wasn't the grass, but the sun. You can see it from the front in one side, and in the other everything is shadows and the reflection is strong. "I don't see even a line" started Nalbandian. "I can't see anything from here" said Coria. While they played tennis. Coria, with a lot of enthusiasm, showed in every ball that his performance in Wimbledon wasn't a fluke. It was half an hour of warming up and the rest to play. Nalbandian gave a lesson of how to play with slice. The court is much slower than they thought it was gonna be, and the ball couldn't even bounce with the cordobes's effects.

There were a lot of rallies and praises("good one, Willy", said David; "Perfect David", said Guillermo) and there was even a luxury from Coria with a great Willy and a winner which made some curious Australians who were present applaud him.

Their turn was over and they wanted to play some more. So why the local Arthurs took his time to practice with Luczak, Nalbandian ran to other minor hardcourt to practice wth Etlis and Mayer, the Junior sparring.

The second hour the Argentine team had for the main court, Mancini took it for the doubles (Coria went to train with Mayer). They started with Nalbandian and Puerta against Etlis-Rodriguez. Since David and Etlis were the ones playing the best, Luli decided to put them together. That's the couple that's been in Luli's head for a while. So Puerta would be out of the team, and in case Mancini decides Nalbandian shouldn't play on saturday, he would choose a couple that knows each other really well: Etlis-Rodriguez.

The training time was coming to an end and the "I don't see anything" was very common to here among the four players in the court. A volley from Etlis bounced very near the line and they asked Mancini to tell them if it was good or not. But Mancini following their complaints said: "I didn't see anything. Besides, if I say something, you'll say I have a favourite"

Socket
07-12-2005, 01:39 PM
More about today:
I'm a little excited at the moment because....I just arrived home, from an afternoon of watching David Nalbandian and Peter Luczak. I had a photo with David, I guess he's the only one I'm really interested in watching. Guillermo Coria was standing in front of me and I didn't notice. Somehow all I could see, was Mariano Puerta, and Coria was just standing there, being harassed by the local photographers.

Lleyton took a different entrance into the main building (Arthurs, Luczak and Guccione entered the usual way). Of course, it's understandable. You don't want young children harassing you, their idol, for autographs. I enjoy it when he meets my expectations. I will however, give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he had something he was running late for. I am doubtful.

Also, the grasscourt looked...muddy. Bad.

I was going to go again tomorrow, but their training schedule is a bit screwed up, so I'll go again on Thursday instead.
Well, considering Lleyton's playing Argentina, he was probably concerned that he'd be spat at (again) and then test postive for drugs! :devil: :devil:

Neely
07-12-2005, 02:10 PM
Well, considering Lleyton's playing Argentina, he was probably concerned that he'd be spat at (again) and then test postive for drugs! :devil: :devil:
At least Muster is at home this time and no need to worry about him :)

Denaon
07-12-2005, 02:13 PM
Well, considering Lleyton's playing Argentina, he was probably concerned that he'd be spat at (again) and then test postive for drugs! :devil: :devil:
funny :rolleyes:

Kristen
07-12-2005, 02:26 PM
:tape::tape::tape:
Must...avoid...derogatory....comments aimed at poor...innocent...charming Lleyton. :tape:

Julio1974
07-12-2005, 02:41 PM
Well, considering Lleyton's playing Argentina, he was probably concerned that he'd be spat at (again) and then test postive for drugs! :devil: :devil:

Maybe. I guess the Australia Fed Cup team would do the same if they had to play against the US team. Just to avoid the possibility of Cappriatti stealing something from them (considering she is a shoplifter). And talking about being positive, I'm sure some members of the US female team could advise Chela or Cañas about how to get away with murder...

Socket
07-12-2005, 03:34 PM
Maybe. I guess the Australia Fed Cup team would do the same if they had to play against the US team. Just to avoid the possibility of Cappriatti stealing something from them (considering she is a shoplifter). And talking about being positive, I'm sure some members of the US female team could advise Chela or Cañas about how to get away with murder...
:haha: :haha: Is that the best you can do? :rolls: :rolls:

Socket
07-12-2005, 03:35 PM
:tape::tape::tape:
Must...avoid...derogatory....comments aimed at poor...innocent...charming Lleyton. :tape:
If you turn this Davis Cup thread into a Hewitt-hating thread, I'll be responding in kind.

*Ljubica*
07-12-2005, 04:28 PM
Peace :angel: I really want Argentina to win because I know it will make David happy (I'm not a huge DC fan personally)- but I've got nothing against Team Australia and I hope it's a great tie with good play from both sides :)

Socket
07-12-2005, 07:39 PM
Peace, Rosie. And in that spirit, here's an article about the tie, with some nice words from Lleyton about his opponents.

Hewitt, Nalbandian keep a lid on unfriendly rivalry in lead-up to quarter-final
By Jessica Halloran
July 13, 2005

Whatever you do, don't mention the rivalry. Lleyton Hewitt scoffed and said it was a stupid question; David Nalbandian also deflected any talk of his poor relationship with Hewitt.

However, the ill-feeling between the biggest names from Australia and Argentina is the best story of the Davis Cup tie starting at the Sydney International Tennis Centre on Friday.

At the Australian Open in January, Hewitt's behaviour, especially his screams of "C'mon!", irritated Nalbandian. Things became physical when Nalbandian bumped shoulders with Hewitt during a change of ends in his five-set quarter-final loss at Melbourne Park. After that match Nalbandian said Hewitt's vocal antics were "ungentlemanly".

"It's not easy when you have one guy behind the net fist-pumping and shouting, 'Come on' all the time," he said. "It's not very good for the sport."

Hewitt was testy yesterday when pressed about whether he would curb his "c'mons" during the Davis Cup quarter-final, so team captain John Fitzgerald stepped in to answer the query.

"Do you want me to answer that?" he said to Hewitt, who scoffed: "You can if you want to but it's a bit of a stupid question."

Fitzgerald said Hewitt's "C'mon!" calls were not bad sportsmanship nor intended to be intimidating. "You watch Lleyton and when he says 'C'mon' it's never timed in his mind to be detrimental to anybody," he said. "If he wins a point at a big stage of the match you can expect it and that's his passion. And when he does it for Australia he actually puts the word Australia on the end of it. I think that's fantastic. I think that's what his passion is all about and I think the crowd feeds off it, too."

When Nalbandian was asked if he expected another fiery clash with Hewitt, he replied: "It is between Argentina and Australia." He had a little more to say about the grasscourt. "I think it is slow," he said. "The grass is high but I think they are going to cut it."

And what did Hewitt think of the court that has been painstakingly grown and tended with heating, lighting and plant steroids? "[On Monday] for me I was pretty bloody happy with the way I was moving on it and I've got no complaints at all," he said. "Come Friday, I don't think it's going to be a problem for our team."

The Australians practised on the court for the second day in a row and Wayne Arthurs moved well, a recent Achilles tendon injury causing him no problems. Arthurs said Davis Cup brought out the best of his ability and, if need be, playing the singles and doubles with Hewitt would not be too demanding.

"I think I'd feed off Lleyton very well [in doubles]," he said. "He's a positive for our team and the vibe he sends out on the court I think I'll just be feeding off that."

Fitzgerald said he would announce the singles players and doubles combination tomorrow.

While Arthurs is in good shape, Hewitt also said he was feeling fresh after his recent Wimbledon campaign where he was beaten by Roger Federer in the semi-final. "I feel good," he said. "I obviously came off a good campaign in London. I feel good. You know, I lost to the best player going around, so yeah, I'm feeling pretty confident."

While Hewitt wouldn't speak of their rivalry he acknowledged Nalbandian's skill on grass and Argentina's talent.

"They've got a world-class unit," he said. "Nalbandian and [Guillermo] Coria are two of the best players on any surface going around. Nalbandian on grass, you probably can't say he's better on hardcourt and clay than he is on grass with his results, making a final in Wimbledon and another quarter this year. We've got a lot respect for their team and we know it's not going to be easy."

jazz_girl
07-12-2005, 08:45 PM
Yeah, let's try to keep things friendly here. Until friday at least :lol: :angel:

willie
07-12-2005, 09:27 PM
stop the fighting guys.
australia and argentina both have great teams, and whichever wins is cuase diserve it:)
i want argentina to win but if the aussies win i will be happy too:yeah:

tennisman.
07-12-2005, 09:43 PM
Australia

Via
07-12-2005, 11:12 PM
Tomorrow:
Australia 10-12
Argentina 2-4.

I'm pretty sure that was it. If you want to confirm before you go, it's 97637644. I'll be there again on Thursday, when the training schedule is a little closer together... like, 11-2! :)

thanks kristen!!! i'd love to catch those argentines that i missed yesterday :p but today's weather forecast is even worse... i'll keep my fingers crossed

i now have way too many c'mon lleyton's photos, than i know what to do with :lol:

saw a bit of arthurs hitting alongside hewitt yesterday before i left... definitely looks like they were being trialled as a pair.

Via
07-13-2005, 12:53 AM
update on times: argentina practising 2-3.30 today

tomorrow (thurs): argentina 11-12.30, aus 12.30-1.30 (kristen's prayers answered!)
but draw ceremony not open to public :(

Via
07-13-2005, 01:12 AM
sorry aussies photos only....... (ask kristen for the argentines :p )

from yesterday's practice:

Socket
07-13-2005, 01:26 AM
There are more photos of the Aussie team in the Hewitt forum, in the Davis Cup thread (posted by NOMAD).

Kristen
07-13-2005, 01:37 AM
If you turn this Davis Cup thread into a Hewitt-hating thread, I'll be responding in kind.
wtf? seriously... the only Hewitt-hating I do, will be when he's on the court, in front of me playing tennis. :rolleyes: :o

Kristen
07-13-2005, 01:41 AM
sorry aussies photos only....... (ask kristen for the argentines :p )
:lol: I still feel so bad for you :eek: The timing was unbelievable yesterday. Will be picking up the photos around 4pm so if any of them turned out nicely, I will scan them and put them on here. Only expecting 8 tennis photos on that entire roll of film, by the way :) The rest will be gross things like pictures of pollution and brown murky water :tape: ahh the joy of studying the environment! Now if only I could do something with that grass court at homebush :eek:

margaret_gn
07-13-2005, 05:42 AM
oh Via I feel for you, after all that waiting... good luck with getting more photos today or tomorrow :) some argentinians' photos added to the link in my sig.
@Kristen: oh i added the photos straightaway cos they were taken with THE camera so I don't have to get them developed and scan them in, I can put the pics in the computer straightaway :yeah:

Kristen
07-13-2005, 10:22 AM
Some pictures from Tuesday:
*note to self: Do not wish the players well, when getting a photo with them. They will look great, but you wont :o

Here we have David, Peter Luczak and Australia's #1. How did that get there!

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 10:56 AM
Thanks a lot for the pics Kristen!!! You lucky girl!!! :)

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 11:46 AM
http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pa...p?pagId=1013086
Nalbandian: "If it's necessary I'll play the three days"
He's the Wild card for the duel against Australia for the Davis Cup QF. Not just for being the best one that adapts on grass, but because of the great temperament he shows every time he has to represent Argentina. Eight victories and just one defeat in the Davis show that David Nalbandian doesn't feel the pressure to wear the blue and white shirt.
-What feelings do you experience when you play the DC?
-The Davis is different to everything, even more to us, the tennis players always compete individually. The pressure is bigger because you represent the country.

-Can it be compared to an Olympic Game?
—No, the Davis can't be compared to anything. We're four or faive players here who are mentalized with our thing. In the Olympics there are thousand of sportsmen living in the Olympic Village. Personally, I prefer the Davis.

-This year you played against Hewitt in Australia, how much do you think that the crowd support could influence?
-I don't think there will be any problems. The Australian crowd is very respectful, although logically they'll be cheering for their country. In that match they behaved correctly. The one that sometimes bothers with his attiyudes inside the court is Hewitt, but we have to put up with it and go on focused.
—And do you put up with it?
—Yes, the only thing I can do is to keep focused in the match.

—Would you like to be in the doubles as well?
-Obviously, I'm up to playing the three days if it's necessary. I still have hopes cause Luli hasn't decided yet.

-How good are the Mark Philippoussis and Todd Woodbridge's withdrawals?
—Very good. Philippoussis is a very complicated player on grass and Woodbridge is a fenomenon: he won Wimbledon 9 times.

-Did it help you to play Wimbledon just a while before to adapt on grass?
-Yes, Guillermo and I gained a lot of confidence, we realised that we can play in the same level to anyone.

-Coria said that if he can't beat Hewitt, at least he'll try to get him tired so when you get him...
—(laughs) I think Guillermo can beat Hewitt, he's a class level player.

—What should Argentina do to get to SF?
-First, we have to assure the points Hewitt doesn't play in and the try to beat him, who's the toughest rival. We should be very aware during the whole series and take advantage of every chance we can get.

In the first semester of the year, David had good and bad performances. However, thanks to the Wimbledon QF, the unquillense was able to be back in the top ten.

-Which are your goals for the rest of the year?
-In the first place, I want to win the Davis Cup, that's my biggest goal. I'd also like to be among the first five again and qualify for the Masters. Since I'm not defending many points till the end of the year, I have many chances.

-Which tournament will you be playing after the series with Australia?
-I'll be back in the Montreal Master Series (starts on the 8/8). I want to be prepared for the rest of the year in the fast surfaces.

-McEnroes said you were fat, did that bother you?
-No, not at all. Actually, I don't care since they're personal opinions and I respect them.

—What do you think of the moment Federer is going through? You're one of the players that has a good H2H against him (5-2 to David)
-It's unbelievable what he's doing, with just 23 years old he won almost everything he played. He's in a superlative level. It's been a long time since I played him, I'd like to and I think I can beat him again.

-Back to the Davis, if you beat Australia, are you almost champions?
-No, but it's the toughest rival you can get away from home and that would be a very important step. We have a lot of confidence.

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 12:48 PM
Apparently Mancini said that the official team will be: Nalbandian, Coria, Etlis and Puerta :retard: Rodriguez is out. David will be playing doubles on saturday with Etlis or Puerta, that will be decided on saturday.
Rodriguez will be retiring this year, since he hasn't gotten good results.
Fitzgerald said that Hewitt and Arthurs will be playing singles and doubles.

Jim Jones
07-13-2005, 12:55 PM
hey Puerta is a good doubles player. He won 3 doubles titles. If Coria or Nalbandian gets injured as luducrous as it sounds they will replace him with Puerta who would play a little better in singles than Etlis or Rordiquez although many doubles players do well on grass.

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 01:12 PM
hey If Coria or Nalbandian gets injured as luducrous as it sounds they will replace him with Puerta who would play a little better in singles than Etlis or Rordiquez
Yeah, instead of losing by 6-0 6-0 6-0 he would lose by 6-0 6-0 6-1

Denaon
07-13-2005, 01:31 PM
I thought it was funny. you're a poor sport old chap
I thought canadians were smarter, oh bitch.... I mean.... oh well :lol:

Denaon
07-13-2005, 01:36 PM
Apparently Mancini said that the official team will be: Nalbandian, Coria, Etlis and Puerta :retard: Rodriguez is out. David will be playing doubles on saturday with Etlis or Puerta, that will be decided on saturday.
Rodriguez will be retiring this year, since he hasn't gotten good results.
Fitzgerald said that Hewitt and Arthurs will be playing singles and doubles.
I don't think it's the right choice either but I trust Mancini and I hope Puerta (eventually) will give his best as usual ;)

Kat!
07-13-2005, 01:48 PM
Here we have David, Peter Luczak and Australia's #1. How did that get there!


just admit it... you're a closet Hewitt fan :devil:

David has nice hair!! :eek:

bad gambler
07-13-2005, 02:01 PM
c'mon rusty, c'mon australia

Denaon
07-13-2005, 02:16 PM
Jazzy o alguien quizas sepa, a que hora serían los partidos? Es decir, para nosotros los 2 singles serían ya mañana a partir de las 10 pm más o menos, no? O a lo sumo por la madrugada......:confused: Algún anuncio de horarios?????

Kristen
07-13-2005, 02:59 PM
just admit it... you're a closet Hewitt fan :devil:
David has nice hair!! :eek:
Fan...as in... blowing air on his clothes, in his closet? ;) Did bg manage to hack into your account and write this? ;) lol... (Closet Luczak fan, and sometimes Arthurs fan, yes.)

Strange question but... have they announced who the umpires will be for this tie?

Aguante_el_Gato
07-13-2005, 03:19 PM
Jazzy o alguien quizas sepa, a que hora serían los partidos? Es decir, para nosotros los 2 singles serían ya mañana a partir de las 10 pm más o menos, no? O a lo sumo por la madrugada......:confused: Algún anuncio de horarios?????
TyC sports anuncia transmisión en directo:
Jueves 14/07: 20:30 a 01:30hs (creo que el primer partido comienza a las 21)
Viernes 15/07: 22:30 a 01:00hs (creo que el dobles comienza a las 23)
Sábado 16/07: igual que 14/07
Son todos horarios de Buenos Aires (Argentina).

Nota: Según el sitio oficial de la Davis, los singles comienzan a las 10 hora Sidney = 21 del día anterior en Argentina , pero en La Nación informan que comienzan a las 22hs :confused:

Denaon
07-13-2005, 03:50 PM
TyC sports anuncia transmisión en directo:
Jueves 14/07: 20:30 a 01:30hs (creo que el primer partido comienza a las 21)
Viernes 15/07: 22:30 a 01:00hs (creo que el dobles comienza a las 23)
Sábado 16/07: igual que 14/07
Son todos horarios de Buenos Aires (Argentina).

Nota: Según el sitio oficial de la Davis, los singles comienzan a las 10 hora Sidney = 21 del día anterior en Argentina , pero en La Nación informan que comienzan a las 22hs :confused:
Gracias por la info!!! :yeah: :hug:
Ahora me quiero matar porque no tengo TyCSports!!!!!! Por Dios que lo pase algún canal de aire porque sino me muero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

buddyholly
07-13-2005, 03:57 PM
And talking about being positive, I'm sure some members of the US female team could advise Chela or Cañas about how to get away with murder...

Am I missing something here? Big sis or little sis?

Yeah, Willy already knows all about being positive. I am sure his preferred method would be the needle :)

Aguante_el_Gato
07-13-2005, 04:15 PM
Gracias por la info!!! :yeah: :hug:
Ahora me quiero matar porque no tengo TyCSports!!!!!! Por Dios que lo pase algún canal de aire porque sino me muero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
es el principal motivo por el cual me resisto a pasar a Telecentro ;)

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 04:18 PM
Jazzy o alguien quizas sepa, a que hora serían los partidos? Es decir, para nosotros los 2 singles serían ya mañana a partir de las 10 pm más o menos, no? O a lo sumo por la madrugada......:confused: Algún anuncio de horarios?????
T&C empieza a transmitir mañana a las 8:30pm, pero los partidos empiezan a las 9 ;)

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 04:21 PM
Gracias por la info!!! :yeah: :hug:
Ahora me quiero matar porque no tengo TyCSports!!!!!! Por Dios que lo pase algún canal de aire porque sino me muero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
Y si te vas a algún bar para verlo?

Denaon
07-13-2005, 04:25 PM
Y si te vas a algún bar para verlo?
No se, supongo que tendre que irme a alguno porque ademas no conozco nadie que no tenga TELECENTRO (como los odio en este momento!)
Veré que hago, pero ya me deprimí :sad:

Action Jackson
07-13-2005, 04:32 PM
This thread already has over 200 posts and the match hasn't started.

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 04:36 PM
http://www.thecouriermail.news.com....5E23216,00.html
Nalbandian spells doubles trouble
ARGENTINE captain Alberto Mancini is considering unleashing ironhorse David Nalbandian on a depleted Australian team in all three days of a compelling Davis Cup quarter-final.

Plotting to upset the 28-time champions without retired Todd Woodbridge and injured Mark Philippoussis, Mancini is wrestling with the notion of using Nalbandian with Gaston Etlis in doubles instead of Martin Rodriguez.

If Wimbledon singles finalist Nalbandian is spirited into doubles duty, he will be assigned a similar workload to world No.2 Lleyton Hewitt and Wayne Arthurs who are also confronted with the possibility of playing three matches in as many days.

Rodriguez regularly partners Etlis and reached the Australian Open semi-finals last season. Currently out of the four-man team, Rodriguez could still be drafted into the Argentine unit before the draw.

But practice form strongly suggests Nalbandian is a leading candidate to retain the doubles role he shared with Guillermo Canas in a 5-0 thumping of the Czech Republic in Buenos Aires in March.
Canas is unavailable as he counters an ATP anti-doping investigation after an irregularity was found in a sample taken in Acapulco in April.

Nalbandian has been named with Guillermo Coria, French Open runner-up Mariano Puerta and Etlis, but the rugged baseliner is clearly the pivot of an awesome outfit.

Shattered by the loss of good friend and world No.8 Canas, who feared playing in Sydney would lead to an Australian protest, Nalbandian covets a famous victory.

"Australia have two important losses with the retirement of Todd Woodbridge and injury of Mark Philippoussis," he said. "It will be up to us to take advantage of it and taking our chances there."

Asked by Argentine reporters what he expected from the traditionally sporting Australian Davis Cup crowds in the wake of his light collision with Hewitt at the Australian Open, Nalbandian said he hoped there would be no hostility.

"I do not wait for anything bad," he said as he prepares to face Arthurs tomorrow in the opening day singles.

Nalbandian stretched Hewitt in a magnificent Australian Open quarter-final in January, but is yet to down the world No.2 in three meetings.

Via
07-13-2005, 10:53 PM
what's that mud on your face, kristen????? :p

no i don't feel that sorry for myself.... bad-timing is my middle name... and i've had more than enough photos the last two days....... *struggle to maintain some dignity*

*go away to prepare a few more pics for this forum*

Clara Bow
07-13-2005, 11:09 PM
Hmmmmm....looks like the Fanatics are ready to do their thing during the matches but in my opinion I think they are going a bit too far.



The Australian

July 14, 2005 Thursday All-round Country Edition

SECTION: SPORT; Pg. 31

LENGTH: 211 words

HEADLINE: Fanatics hit a chord

SOURCE: MATP

BYLINE: Margie McDonald

BODY:
IF David Nalbandian and Guillermo Coria are not looking forward to again facing Lleyton Hewitt's "C'mon" warcry, they should heed a warning and invest in earplugs.

The travelling band of yellow T-shirted Australian sports buffs known as The Fanatics has been penning some special tunes and choruses just for the Argentinians.

Some 140 Fanatics will be in the centre court stands cheering on the Australian team tomorrow.

Spectators can expect to hear the old Monty Python hit Sit On My Face altered to fit the letter 'P' between the consonant and vowel in the first word, in reference to the spitting incident between Lleyton Hewitt and Juan Ignatio Chela at the Australian Open in January.

The Fanatics also have a few tunes for the absent Guillermo Canas, who withdrew from Wimbledon and the Davis Cup because of an ATP investigation into a positive test for a diuretic in February.

Fanatics founder Warren Livingstone said he knew the jingles might provoke some anger in the Argentine camp.

"We try not to get under their skin. It's not what we're about. It is primarily to entertain but also to be there for Lleyton," Livingstone said.

The Fanatics have been courtside for all of Hewitt's 19 cup ties since he debuted against the USA in 1999.

They don't do it to get under players skins? So doing songs about a team member who Nalbandian is quite close to and will be appealing the charge is not to get under the skin of David or Coria? In particular since Coria still maintains his innocence about his drug conviction and broke down crying in an interview when talking about the conviction? They say that they know that the songs may provoke anger but aren't doing it to get under the Argentines' skins? I call a big fat BS on that.

Daniela_CABJ
07-13-2005, 11:13 PM
TyC sports :D

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 11:16 PM
Hmmmmm....looks like the Fanatics are ready to do their thing during the matches but in my opinion I think they are going a bit too far.




They don't do it to get under players skins? So doing songs about a team member who Nalbandian is quite close to and will be appealing the charge is not to get under the skin of David or Coria? In particular since Coria still maintains his innocence about his drug conviction and broke down crying in an interview when talking about the conviction? They say that they know that the songs may provoke anger but aren't doing it to get under the Argentines' skins? I call a big fat BS on that.
Very nice :rolleyes:

Lisbeth
07-13-2005, 11:18 PM
I have to agree Clara Bow (despite being a very ardent Australian tennis fan myself ;) .) I think any song/chant/banner which attacks a player or a friend/family member of a player personally is beyond the limits of good, sporting fun. While the Fanatics are certainly not the only national cheer group who go overboard (indeed, the Aussie team has been on the receiving end more than once ;) ) I do think in the last few years a few times they've moved from just being an effervescent good natured cheer group. Singing anti-Argentine songs rather than, say, pro-Arthurs songs is an example.

I do think players just have to learn to rise above it as part and parcel of Davis Cup, just as Australian players have to live with it in other places, but surely they can have their fun without getting personal.

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 11:18 PM
TyC sports :D
:lol: Thanks for the ad dani!!!

Lisbeth
07-13-2005, 11:19 PM
This thread already has over 200 posts and the match hasn't started.

:lol: interesting observation :)

Lisbeth
07-13-2005, 11:22 PM
Here we have David, Peter Luczak and Australia's #1. How did that get there!

:) I don't know how but thanks anyway :) Maybe your latent Australian side is breaking through ;) :devil:

G_Hughes
07-13-2005, 11:25 PM
No se, supongo que tendre que irme a alguno porque ademas no conozco nadie que no tenga TELECENTRO (como los odio en este momento!)
Veré que hago, pero ya me deprimí :sad:

Peor yo loco que estoy en Madrid y acá no hay forma de verlo . Averigué en " Locos por el futbol " ( Madrid ) pero no lo televisan . De antemano si alguien sabe algún stream por donde seguirlo por internet que avise. Yo si me enteró les aviso. Saludos y aguante !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Via
07-13-2005, 11:28 PM
some pics of the argentine team yesterday...

i think i saw coria's wife too... she sat high up in the stadium to catch some sun, and coria tried to hit a ball up to her, very sweet :)

last but not least... a pic of gwh would be very interesting but i dare not!!.....

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 11:28 PM
Peor yo loco que estoy en Madrid y acá no hay forma de verlo . Averigué en " Locos por el futbol " ( Madrid ) pero no lo televisan . De antemano si alguien sabe algún stream por donde seguirlo por internet que avise. Yo si me enteró les aviso. Saludos y aguante !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lo único que te puedo sugerir es el live score de la davis que es muy bueno, pero no es lo mismo que verlo en vivo...

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 11:29 PM
some pics of the argentine team yesterday...

i think i saw coria's wife too... she sat high up in the stadium to catch some sun, and coria tried to hit a ball up to her, very sweet :)

last but not least... a pic of gwh would be very interesting but i dare not!!.....
Thank you for the pics :)

Socket
07-13-2005, 11:31 PM
I've heard some of the lyrics of the Fanatics' parodies before, and they tend to be pretty tame, and quite funny. When I went to the USA-Australia tie in Washington several years ago, there was a song about Sampras's madras shorts that had everybody in the stadium laughing and applauding (I don't think the singers were an official Fanatics group, but they were definitely Aussies). BTW, some of the opposing players actually are flattered that somebody went to the trouble of writing songs about them, even those poking fun at them (Tim Henman apparently once asked for the lyrics to "his" song). Let's wait and see how harsh these songs are before going off on them.

However, the Aussies once again got the other team's national anthem wrong, I'll have to agree that it's a deliberate provocation. :lol:

Lisbeth
07-13-2005, 11:35 PM
Uh oh, can anyone recommend a good national anthem consultant? apparently we need one urgently ;)

I think singing about something peripheral like shorts is funny and OK - and many players can probably take something even more personal (like the English cricket fans' songs about Shane Warne eating all the pies, which he playes right up to ;) ) But there's a definite line. It doesn't get crossed often but I'd prefer if it didn't happen at all :)

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 11:37 PM
However, the Aussies once again got the other team's national anthem wrong, I'll have to agree that it's a deliberate provocation. :lol:
Yeah, I remember that and it was terribly awful! I still remember the Spaniards's faces :rolleyes:

Lisbeth
07-13-2005, 11:43 PM
Apparently someone was so cranky they had to smuggle the trumpet player out the back and take him straight to the airport in a police car with escort (according to a TV interview I saw later with the trumpet guy). I don't blame the Spanish fans for being so mad but I kind of feel sorry for the trumpet guy who was given the wrong CD :rolleyes: I guess next time he'll check for himself ;)

jazz_girl
07-13-2005, 11:47 PM
Apparently someone was so cranky they had to smuggle the trumpet player out the back and take him straight to the airport in a police car with escort (according to a TV interview I saw later with the trumpet guy). I don't blame the Spanish fans for being so mad but I kind of feel sorry for the trumpet guy who was given the wrong CD :rolleyes: I guess next time he'll check for himself ;)
Who was in charge of giving him that song? Because either he's got no culture or he's a complete idiot :rolleyes: And poor trompet guy...

Lisbeth
07-13-2005, 11:58 PM
Don't know, someone at Tennis Australia I assume. Anyway, that's who I wrote my letter of complaint to at the time ;) but I never got an answer.

The thing is, apparently that wrong anthem was something like 40-50 years out of date. Which was before CDs existed. So how the hell did a CD with that anthem on it come into being anyway? Really very stupid. And frankly Australia of all places should know better with the number of times we've been called/mistaken for Austria, New Zealand etc etc :lol:

I'm worried now, maybe I should call Homebush and check the anthem they've got lined up :lol: (Not that I am personally all that familiar with the Argentine anthem but I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find out ;) )

Socket
07-14-2005, 12:12 AM
When I read about the wrong Spanish anthem being played by the Aussies, I was reminded of the film The Dish. It's about a small town in Australia, Parkes, that has a radio telescope that was used by NASA during the Apollo 11 moon landing. The American ambassador came to the town and a local high school band played what they thought was the Star Spangled Banner in his honor. Only it was some 50s rock song, something like Blue Suede Shoes. It was just hysterical!

Edit: I just checked Netflix, and the "anthem" the band played was the theme from Hawaii Five-O, which is even funnier than Blue Suede Shoes! :haha: :haha:

Personally, I thought that the Spaniards really milked the incident beyond what was appropriate. They really seemed to want to rub the Aussies' faces in what was just an honest mistake.

Lisbeth
07-14-2005, 12:29 AM
Also, Ronald Reagan thanking "our friends in Austria" for our help in something trivial like, you know, some war or other ;)

The Dish is funny. Same guys as did the Castle, which was also funny.

jazz_girl
07-14-2005, 12:53 AM
The draw has been made and this is the OOP:
Friday:
Hewitt vs Coria
Arthurs vs Nalbandian

Saturday
Arthurs/Hewitt vs Nalbandian/Puerta :retard:

Sunday
Hewitt vs Nalbandian
Arthurs vs Coria

willie
07-14-2005, 01:06 AM
The draw has been made and this is the OOP:
Friday:
Hewitt vs Coria
Arthurs vs Nalbandian

Saturday
Arthurs/Hewitt vs Nalbandian/Puerta :retard:

Sunday
Hewitt vs Nalbandian
Arthurs vs Coria

yes, the times will be:
friday matches
friday 10 am for australia
thursday 9 pm for argentina

saturday matches
saturday 12 am for australia
friday 11 pm for argentina

sunday matches
sunday 10 am for australia
saturday 9 pm for argentina

willie
07-14-2005, 01:49 AM
puerta is playing??????????????????????
i cant believe it, we are lost:(
puerta is a disaster on grass, perhaps my grandma plays better than him:o

willie
07-14-2005, 02:06 AM
prediction of the tie........
Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) D Guillermo Coria (ARG) in 4 sets
David Nalbandian (ARG) D Wayne Arthurs (AUS) in 4 sets
Wayne Arthurs/Lleyton Hewitt(AUS) D David Nalbandian/Mariano Puerta(ARG) in 3 sets
Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) D David Nalbandian (ARG) in 5 sets:o

3-1, the last rubber doesnt matter.....the only way this can change is etlis playing instead of puerta......or puerta playing really good......
i still think that who wins the doubles match will win the tie

jazz_girl
07-14-2005, 02:09 AM
prediction of the tie........
Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) D Guillermo Coria (ARG) in 4 sets
David Nalbandian (ARG) D Wayne Arthurs (AUS) in 4 sets
Wayne Arthurs/Lleyton Hewitt(AUS) D David Nalbandian/Mariano Puerta(ARG) in 3 sets
Lleyton Hewitt (AUS) D David Nalbandian (ARG) in 5 sets:o

3-1, the last rubber doesnt matter.....the only way this can change is etlis playing instead of puerta......or puerta playing really good......
i still think that who wins the doubles match will win the tie
Remember David loves the DC, and when he played the doubles with Willy in Bs As, Willy was crap and he took the match thanks to his tennis and for ecouraging Willy all the way, the doubles is possible! I still have faith in them. I'll be praying all night though :lol:

Denaon
07-14-2005, 02:22 AM
Oh come on! Give Mariano a chance, Luli must have put him there for a reason :unsure: I hope....

jazz_girl
07-14-2005, 02:26 AM
There's got to be a reason!!!!

Denaon
07-14-2005, 02:28 AM
There's got to be a reason!!!!
Absolutely! Mariano's performance in other non-clay courts does not equal his talent!!! Go David, Guillermo and Mariano!!! :woohoo:

*Ljubica*
07-14-2005, 05:28 AM
some pics of the argentine team yesterday...

i think i saw coria's wife too... she sat high up in the stadium to catch some sun, and coria tried to hit a ball up to her, very sweet :)

last but not least... a pic of gwh would be very interesting but i dare not!!.....


Thanks Via. Would it be OK with you if I posted the picture of Mariano in his Forum? Thanks.

oneandonlyhsn
07-14-2005, 06:40 AM
Anyone know if there is a live feed for this?

Chloe le Bopper
07-14-2005, 09:07 AM
Maybe Argentina is bluffing with the doubles ;)

Deea
07-14-2005, 09:52 AM
Go Argentina! I hope u can beat the Australians... I think your team is much stronger...I mean can Hewitt defeat all of you alone? Forever Guille's fan! Go Argentina!!!!

jazz_girl
07-14-2005, 12:52 PM
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/721199
A great teams spirit
"do you know what's the best thing? that one of the five of us will have to be out of the team, and there's not gonna be any problem at all..." In the middle of a photo shoot for La Nación, Mariano Puerta, finalist of Roland Garros and who was one of the candidates to be out of the tea, he threw the keys of the road to walk in Australia. What could have been a dramma before, today is something normal. And that's a change that should be widly valued.

There are no recents memories of a captain calling 5 players for a series like Mancini did it this time. That's why, that unity concept, together with that famous Montecarlo letter which put an end to Gustavo Luza's run, showed at its best after Guillermo Cañas's withdrawal because of a doping process.

As oppossed to other opportunities, no one showed his back. There was an idea, of travelling with Coria, Nalbandian, Cañas and Puerta; it had to be changed and Gastón Etlis stepped in, and Martín Rodriguez had to be out. And to think for the best: without vedettism or conveniences.

That's why, this weeks was a highlight in every sense. Because of this we could see Nalbandian more relaxed than ever, talking about his Play Sation 2 qualities and reliving his junior days, and being there in every moment for the Junior Leonardo Mayer. Cañuli, like everyone calls him, just like in the days when Nalbandian and Coria were the sparrings, he's become the center of the jokes. It's the prize you have to pay for being the newbie, in tennis, when they enter the Davis World.

But in this very open Argentine team, everybody had their time to have a good time. There was a lot of good mood in the hotel's gym, in where Luli Mancini released his stress during an hour in the bike, at the same time the massuer was in charge of preparing the "mates" to fight the cold off during the practices.

That same cold was away during sunday when they played a football match and Mancini hit Diego Rivas(kinesiololgist) while playing. Rivas was also a victim of Nalbandian during the endless play station marathons at night.

There was talking about thinking about the best and that was able to see during the training sessions. All the team was there for the other and there was always an advice at sight to make things better or modify some incorrect movement.

The same thing, the good willingness to be there at time and get together in the lobby to go out together and have dinner every night, without getting mad for Nalbandian's late arrivals, always the last one and running to get to the rest of the team.

And then, being true to their word, being there and taking the groupal picture in the Opera or the bridge, something that in other times it was a torture. "These are memories for life", said Mancini, a photo fan, after the photo shoot was over.

With a different style and with a low profile, this group tried to write a different history. At least, seeing it from the outside, it was a huge first step. The ideal is to keep this example up, no matter the result, with time. This will be the best way to set aside the individualism that the tennis has in its genes.