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4th round: Ljubicic vs. Nadal

Nacho
03-27-2005, 10:17 PM
interesting match featuring 2 of the best players in 2005 (ranked 5th and 6th in the race)

place your bets!

H2H

2005 DOHA QF Ivan Ljubicic def Rafael Nadal 6-2 6-7 6-3

Ljubicic leads 1-0

I♥PsY@Mus!c
03-27-2005, 10:22 PM
Ivan in 2 :rocker2:

ftd999
03-27-2005, 10:25 PM
interesting match featuring 2 of the best players in 2005 (ranked 5th and 6th in the race)

place your bets!

H2H

2005 DOHA QF Ivan Ljubicic def Rafael Nadal 6-2 6-7 6-3

Ljubicic leads 1-0


This seems tough to predict. Ljubo beats Spadea in a tight three setter, Nadal schools Verdasco 2 and 2. Normally, you'd think Ljubicic would overpower Nadal on hard, but I'm not sure what to think after those two scores.

Nadal is a fighter just like Spadea, but most people might think Spadea is better on hard. I'm not so sure anymore though, Nadal is having some pretty good results this year as well. I wish ESPN would show this, but I already know there's no chance. Unfortunately.

Chloe le Bopper
03-27-2005, 10:30 PM
I think Ivan will win. Oh well :)

knight_ley
03-27-2005, 10:33 PM
i want rafa to win... i just am not sure if he will.

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 10:42 PM
well i did say..next time Ivan and Nadal play...i put all my vCash on Ivan...the moment has come all 15,000...Ljubo in 2

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 10:46 PM
ohh and Ivan last match should been easy in 2...Ivan has 3-1 lead and wasa serving in 2nd.

but you never know...looking forward to this match....only think...we might have to wait a few says..WenSday!?!?!?

bad gambler
03-27-2005, 10:48 PM
good luck to both players

lucashg
03-27-2005, 10:49 PM
Now that Nalbandian is gone, Ljubicic will choke at the thought of reaching a AMS final and will lose to Nadal in two easy sets. That's how hopeless this tournament is turning out to be :scared:

tennisman.
03-27-2005, 10:49 PM
Ivan will win

ftd999
03-27-2005, 10:50 PM
well i did say..next time Ivan and Nadal play...i put all my vCash on Ivan...the moment has come all 15,000...Ljubo in 2

I can definitely see why people would pick Ivan just because of his serve and forehand, and because of the new aura surrounding him. I don't count Nadal out at all though, especially once the points get into baseline rallies. It's a travesty that most tennis fans in America will never see this one.

Rubber Ducky, if you win your bet, and have 30,000 vCash, will you be the vCash leader?

Alvarillo
03-27-2005, 10:52 PM
Nadal is in great form!
Vamos Rafa, you can do it ! :)

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 10:54 PM
I can definitely see why people would pick Ivan just because of his serve and forehand, and because of the new aura surrounding him. I don't count Nadal out at all though, especially once the points get into baseline rallies. It's a travesty that most tennis fans in America will never see this one.

Rubber Ducky, if you win your bet, and have 30,000 vCash, will you be the vCash leader?

i wont get 1.00 on Ivan...i got .40 vs Vinny...higher seed....ill have 20,000+

but there is little kid who made some vcash..then puts it all on Roger every match...one of these times..he;s gonna go down.

User id 7816
03-27-2005, 10:54 PM
Rafael, maybe in 2...He's strong enough to do it, if Spadea almost did it..Go Rafa!;)

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 10:54 PM
I can definitely see why people would pick Ivan just because of his serve and forehand, ?

Ivan's backhand is ridicolously good. :worship:

bad gambler
03-27-2005, 11:01 PM
nadal

jacobhiggins
03-27-2005, 11:01 PM
I'm picking Ivan in two, besides Federer, Ivan has been the most consistant player on tour. And he's been playing at a very very high level.

ftd999
03-27-2005, 11:03 PM
i wont get 1.00 on Ivan...i got .40 vs Vinny...higher seed....ill have 20,000+

but there is little kid who made some vcash..then puts it all on Roger every match...one of these times..he;s gonna go down.

The poster 'Gravity' was just posting in the Llodra thread, and he/she had 29K.

bad gambler
03-27-2005, 11:04 PM
The poster 'Gravity' was just posting in the Llodra thread, and he/she had 29K.


nah there is young kid pipo who has over 50k

cocky little fellow but i like it :)

RickDaStick
03-27-2005, 11:05 PM
nah there is young kid pipo who has over 50k

cocky little fellow but i like it :)


Pipo is the one that puts it all on Roger every match. One of these days the poor kid will be left with a big 0.

NATAS81
03-27-2005, 11:05 PM
Nadal finally has a chance to go against a top player and test his skill after going deep at AO and getting the necessary experience under his belt. Barring into consideration that this surface is slower, that he hasn't lose a set, and Ljubicic going the distance with Spadea today - It's hard not to pick Nadal in this one.

Deivid23
03-27-2005, 11:05 PM
Maybe we will see too many surprised faces on Tuesday ;)

RickDaStick
03-27-2005, 11:07 PM
Debstah i belive said that the 4th round wont be played till Wednesday? Does anyone know for sure?

Daniel
03-27-2005, 11:09 PM
Ivan

liptea
03-27-2005, 11:15 PM
Ivan looks like a slightly uglier, balder, more Croatian Colin Farrell.

I'll still be rooting for Nadal. :woohoo:

ftd999
03-27-2005, 11:18 PM
nah there is young kid pipo who has over 50k

cocky little fellow but i like it :)

Pipo, huh? Hey, Bad Gambler, do you guys make decent money in real life off betting on tennis? I'm assuming that some of these guys on here actually bet on tennis using real money. If Pipo can take $500 and turn it into 50K on here, he could do it with real money, no? Or maybe he does.

nkhera1
03-27-2005, 11:26 PM
Ivan's backhand is ridicolously good. :worship:

Yeah the general opinion before this year was that his backhand was the more steady of the two. The forehand was considered good, but it could go wild. This year however for the most part Ljubicic seems to have tightened his forehand which is a reason he is doing well so now he is really deadly from both sides and he has a great serve. He presents a hard matchup problem for anyone other than Federer (though no once presents a matchup problem for Federer).

bad gambler
03-27-2005, 11:27 PM
Pipo, huh? Hey, Bad Gambler, do you guys make decent money in real life off betting on tennis? I'm assuming that some of these guys on here actually bet on tennis using real money. If Pipo can take $500 and turn it into 50K on here, he could do it with real money, no? Or maybe he does.


personally do ok ;)

but unfortunately not this week in miami :crying2:

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 11:27 PM
Pipo, huh? Hey, Bad Gambler, do you guys make decent money in real life off betting on tennis? I'm assuming that some of these guys on here actually bet on tennis using real money. If Pipo can take $500 and turn it into 50K on here, he could do it with real money, no? Or maybe he does.

No..he cant...i had $25vcash and now im at 15,000...DC helped alot...


Ljubo vs Speada match..looked close but should have been over after 2...Ivan was up 3-1 and serving..

ftd999
03-27-2005, 11:31 PM
Yeah the general opinion before this year was that his backhand was the more steady of the two. The forehand was considered good, but it could go wild. This year however for the most part Ljubicic seems to have tightened his forehand which is a reason he is doing well so now he is really deadly from both sides and he has a great serve. He presents a hard matchup problem for anyone other than Federer (though no once presents a matchup problem for Federer).

Have you seen his matches against Federer this year? How has Federer played him. It seems like many of the sets have gone to tie-breaks. So, has it just been good service games and then a slight mental edge to Federer in those tie-breaks? There doesn't seem to be too much separating them in terms of score, but Federer has won them all.

uNIVERSE mAN
03-27-2005, 11:33 PM
why make a poll about how many sets they win, why not just win or lose?

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 11:33 PM
h2h on hard.... Ivan won easy 2 sets...nadal had to take it to TB to win a set....6 2 6 7 6 3

nkhera1
03-27-2005, 11:33 PM
Have you seen his matches against Federer this year? How has Federer played him. It seems like many of the sets have gone to tie-breaks. So, has it just been good service games and then a slight mental edge to Federer in those tie-breaks? There doesn't seem to be too much separating them in terms of score, but Federer has won them all.


No I haven't see their matches, and I wasn't really criticising Ljubicic. It was more like I was praising Federer. Also a win is a win so until Ljubicic can beat Federer I won't consider them on the same level though Ljubicic is closing the gap.

ftd999
03-27-2005, 11:34 PM
No..he cant...i had $25vcash and now im at 15,000...DC helped alot...


Ljubo vs Speada match..looked close but should have been over after 2...Ivan was up 3-1 and serving..

ESPN should have shown that match, it looked to be the best of the day. It's funny how Spadea has been the 3rd ranked American for some time, yet they never seem to show any of his matches. I can't remember the last time I saw him televised, yet I feel like I've seen Fish, Dent, and Blake a million times (not that I mind watching those three).

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 11:37 PM
For Nadal to win. he will have to play at his best and hope that Ivan's serve is off. If Ivan serves well...i cant see Nadal winning.

thats why i am putting my vCash where my mouth is ;)

ftd999
03-27-2005, 11:43 PM
No I haven't see their matches, and I wasn't really criticising Ljubicic. It was more like I was praising Federer. Also a win is a win so until Ljubicic can beat Federer I won't consider them on the same level though Ljubicic is closing the gap.

I agree, I don't really consider anyone at Federer's level, but I think he's beatable. I see Ljubicic as playing top ten (or top 5) tennis right now, but he needs to step up in a big event like this. The bottom of the draw has really opened up, so this is a good shot for him. I think after Nadal, you've got hopefully Monfils :p , but more likely Moya, JCF, or less likely Robredo. .

Federer will have a tougher draw to get through the top plus he just played three more matches than Ljubicic at the Pacific, so maybe he's got a good shot here. I do think Nadal can beat him though, although it will be tough given how Ljubicic has been playing.

El Legenda
03-27-2005, 11:45 PM
I agree, I don't really consider anyone at Federer's level, but I think he's beatable. I see Ljubicic as playing top ten (or top 5) tennis right now, but he needs to step up in a big event like this. The bottom of the draw has really opened up, so this is a good shot for him. I think after Nadal, you've got hopefully Monfils :p , but more likely Moya, JCF, or less likely Robredo. .

Federer will have a tougher draw to get through the top plus he just played three more matches than Ljubicic at the Pacific, so maybe he's got a good shot here. I do think Nadal can beat him though, although it will be tough given how Ljubicic has been playing.

Robredo..Withdrew..... ;)

RaVeR
03-27-2005, 11:45 PM
I hope Ivan will win!

Good luck Ivan!!

Fergie
03-27-2005, 11:57 PM
Ivan will win :yeah:

Scotso
03-28-2005, 12:08 AM
Rafa is going to win something like 6-4 6-3.

Ivan won't know what hit him.

ugotlobbed
03-28-2005, 12:32 AM
they better show this one or ppl will be beggin justmeuk for it rofl

Paialii
03-28-2005, 12:41 AM
Ivan in two close sets.

ftd999
03-28-2005, 12:51 AM
they better show this one or ppl will be beggin justmeuk for it rofl

I don't believe there's any possibiity that this will be televised in the states. However, if Agassi and Dent lose tommorow, then what would they do? Would they just show all women's matches or would they continue to split the coverage like tommorow? Even if they continued to split, they'd probably show Federer slaughter some poor hap over this great matchup :p

Either way, it doesn't matter. Although Coria might beat Dent, I would be very surprised if Agassi loses to Clement. Both could happen though.

Chloe le Bopper
03-28-2005, 03:08 AM
As I said, I think that Ivan will win. He's just been so solid this year and won their last meeting.

However... if he doesn't, I have dibs on the thread :devil: ;)


Unless it's tomorrow. Then I'll be at work, so nevermind. I'll have to wait until I get home to rub it in to certain individuals :angel:

Björki
03-28-2005, 08:07 AM
Vamos Rafa :bounce:

Ferrero Forever
03-28-2005, 08:14 AM
I really hope Nadal ends up winning, i don't care how he does it, just so long as he wins

BlackSilver
03-28-2005, 08:15 AM
My guess is Ivan in three

~EMiLiTA~
03-28-2005, 08:49 AM
what a beauty of a match!! such a tough call...I like both players, tho am more a fan of Rafa...in this case I'll have to say Ivan in 3 though...but feel free to surprise me Rafa! :banana:

blosson
03-28-2005, 08:51 AM
i think Ljubo will win in 2 hard sets

adeegee
03-28-2005, 09:35 AM
I actually can't wait for this match. With the exception of Federer (who we expected it off anyway) it's the 2 form players of the year. I think it'll be a top top match.

Much depends on how Ivan serves. If he serves well it'll be tough for Rafa, Ivan will be getting a lot of cheap points off the serve and Rafa will have to fight for every point. Once they get into a rally Nadal has the slight edge, with his better footwork and more consistent groundstrokes. I really hope Rafa can win, I've been defending the accusations on this forum that "he's crap on anything but clay" for a while now, many have come from Ivan fans so I hope he shoves those comments down their throats :p

bad gambler
03-28-2005, 09:55 AM
I really hope Rafa can win, I've been defending the accusations on this forum that "he's crap on anything but clay" for a while now, many have come from Ivan fans so I hope he shoves those comments down their throats :p


i've already got the popcorn ready for the after match slanging match in GM - will be my highlight of the day when you and the croatian lads go at it :D

adeegee
03-28-2005, 09:56 AM
i've already got the popcorn ready for the after match slanging match in GM - will be my highlight of the day when you and the croatian lads go at it :D

Mate I'm disappearing off this forum is Ljubicic wins :rolleyes:

bad gambler
03-28-2005, 10:00 AM
Mate I'm disappearing off this forum is Ljubicic wins :rolleyes:

well in that case nice knowing you adam, been a real blast :bigwave: :D

adeegee
03-28-2005, 10:04 AM
well in that case nice knowing you adam, been a real blast :bigwave: :D

Rafa's gonna nail the nasty big Croat, mark my words :p

Auscon
03-28-2005, 12:32 PM
I'd like to see Nadal make it through, but I think Ivans current form will help him to a win here

Chloe le Bopper
03-28-2005, 12:36 PM
i've already got the popcorn ready for the after match slanging match in GM - will be my highlight of the day when you and the croatian lads go at it :D
I have already set myself up in a great position. I expect Ivan to win and haven't said anything regrettable on the matter... but if he doesn't? Oh boy :bigclap:

Silvio
03-28-2005, 01:12 PM
Better poll would be: "How many games will Nadal collect?"

On normal hardcourt, I would say 3 to 5 games, but as this is extremely slow hardcourt, I would credit Rafa with as much as 6 to 8 games.

Billabong
03-28-2005, 01:13 PM
I predict this one to go to 3 sets:)! But have no idea who will win:confused: I would say Ivan!

Neely
03-28-2005, 01:16 PM
I hope Nadal wins! My prediction would be in three sets! But I'm biased making this prediction because I have a rather clear favourite in this match :angel:

Deivid23
03-28-2005, 01:18 PM
Better poll would be: "How many games will Nadal collect?"

On normal hardcourt, I would say 3 to 5 games, but as this is extremely slow hardcourt, I would credit Rafa with as much as 6 to 8 games.

You have pretty nice odds for Ivan, take advantage and bet your house ;)

adeegee
03-28-2005, 01:35 PM
Better poll would be: "How many games will Nadal collect?"

On normal hardcourt, I would say 3 to 5 games, but as this is extremely slow hardcourt, I would credit Rafa with as much as 6 to 8 games.

I'm gonna reduce you and RDucky to tears when Rafa wins

Deivid23
03-28-2005, 01:39 PM
I'm gonna reduce you and RDucky to tears when Rafa wins

I donīt know who will win, I think Ljubicic should, but of course I think it wonīt be a walk in the park. But Croatian fellas are lately as the "new rich people". They sound as arrogant as Roddick fans were some months ago. Itīs funny though. ;)

adeegee
03-28-2005, 01:41 PM
I donīt know who will win, I think Ljubicic should, but of course I think it wonīt be a walk in the park. But Croatian fellas are lately as the "new rich people". They sound as arrogant as Roddick fans were some months ago. Itīs funny though. ;)

Don't worry mate, when Rafa wins they'll all go quiet once more :p

Silvio
03-28-2005, 02:55 PM
Don't worry mate, when Rafa wins they'll all go quiet once more :p
No, we(at least me) will cheer for Rafa in next matches. It looks impossible for Rafa to win, but there is slim chance: Ljubo get injured.

richard gasquet
03-28-2005, 03:23 PM
I think and hope nadal in 3 sets :)

Chloe le Bopper
03-28-2005, 04:24 PM
Better poll would be: "How many games will Nadal collect?"

On normal hardcourt, I would say 3 to 5 games, but as this is extremely slow hardcourt, I would credit Rafa with as much as 6 to 8 games.
6 to 8 games? I say Nadal will be luck to win 6 to 8 POINTS. As we all know, he struggled immensly with this last time they played.

Chloe le Bopper
03-28-2005, 04:24 PM
I donīt know who will win, I think Ljubicic should, but of course I think it wonīt be a walk in the park. But Croatian fellas are lately as the "new rich people". They sound as arrogant as Roddick fans were some months ago. Itīs funny though. ;)
And at least Roddick had a slam and several Masters Series to his name at the time :shrug:

Chloe le Bopper
03-28-2005, 04:26 PM
No, we(at least me) will cheer for Rafa in next matches. It looks impossible for Rafa to win, but there is slim chance: Ljubo get injured.
Yeah, I don't know why Rafa is even bothering to show up :( Maybe Ivan, being such a good guy, will let Rafa win. Coria does that with his opponents sometimes, so perhaps his great ability to share will rub off on Ivan too :)

Even just letting Rafa win a set would be good. It was awesome that he threw that set to Rafa in Doha. He probably felt sorry for him because they weren't playing on clay.

Deivid23
03-28-2005, 04:34 PM
It will be funny to see how Ljuboīs fans celebrate when he finally wins his 2nd title, maybe they wonīt go to work and get drunk for a week. :rolleyes:

Chloe le Bopper
03-28-2005, 04:41 PM
It will be funny to see how Ljuboīs fans celebrate when he finally wins his 2nd title, maybe they wonīt go to work and get drunk for a week. :rolleyes:
How will we celebrate Rafa's 4th? ;)

El Legenda
03-28-2005, 05:31 PM
Don't worry mate, when Rafa wins they'll all go quiet once more :p


haha there is 2 joke's in that line.....we aint going no where..

El Legenda
03-28-2005, 05:33 PM
. It was awesome that he threw that set to Rafa in Doha. He probably felt sorry for him because they weren't playing on clay.

well Ivan did win the other 2 sets 6-2 and 6-3...nadal winning 7-6...after winning 1st 6-2 maybe Ljubo took it down a little. ;)

El Legenda
03-28-2005, 05:34 PM
THE PEOPLE OF MTF HAVE SPOKEN 44-28 for IVAN...someone call the tounry and tell them NOT to play the match.

Chloe le Bopper
03-28-2005, 06:42 PM
THE PEOPLE OF MTF HAVE SPOKEN 44-28 for IVAN...someone call the tounry and tell them NOT to play the match.
This was actually kind of funny. I wish I had said it.

adeegee
03-28-2005, 07:15 PM
I don't think I've ever wanted someone to win a match as much as I want Nadal to beat Ljubicic

AnnabelLee
03-28-2005, 07:19 PM
That's tough to call, I mean Ivan's performance this year is just amazing, but I have the feeling that he might be a little exhausted and has problems with his knee.

Rafael is not that great on hardcourts yet, but you have to know that the courts in Miami are much slower than the usual hardcourts, so I think he has a great chance of upsetting Ivan.

I think it's 50-50

User id 7816
03-28-2005, 07:26 PM
well Ivan did win the other 2 sets 6-2 and 6-3...nadal winning 7-6...after winning 1st 6-2 maybe Ljubo took it down a little. ;)

what kind of statistic is that?....what if all games of Ivan had gone to deuce....I know you cant stop looking for ways to praise Ivan, but hey, be a bit reasonable here....Rafael will hide the ball from Ivan ;)

El Legenda
03-28-2005, 08:22 PM
Ljubo said that knee is 100%...feels good...ready to go..

Scotso
03-28-2005, 08:34 PM
Q. We don't know right now whether it will be Nadal or Verdasco. A couple days ago you said you'd rather play Roddick than Verdasco. Why?

IVAN LJUBICIC: Yes. I don't like to play lefties, but I guess I have no choice the next one; they are both lefties.

So I beat Nadal in Doha, was tough match. Was 3 in the third, but was really difficult. Obviously, I feel like he's better player now than he was the first week of the year.

I beat Verdasco in Dubai, but I saved at least one matchpoint ‑ maybe even more.

So it's tough. It's gonna be tough match for sure. They are playing huge topspins on my backhand, obviously with one‑handed backhand it's really difficult to manage that ball.

Verdasco is just great player. I saw him in Indian Wells against Andy and I saw him here against Andy, he has powerful forehand, great serve, backhand is great. I mean, I don't know why he's not better player than he is, I mean ranking‑wise.

Nadal, obviously he won two events already this year and the Davis Cup last year. He is great future of tennis, I hope, not present.

adeegee
03-28-2005, 08:43 PM
Ivan's wrong, his match against Nadal in Doha was easy, was it not Rducky?

RickDaStick
03-28-2005, 08:46 PM
I think both sides should stop posting about this until the actual match is played. NO ONE knows for sure what is going to happen. Rducky says Ivan will win, Adeegee says Nadal will win neither of you know for sure so everyone should stop bikering back in forth and wait for the match to be played then talk if you like.

adeegee
03-28-2005, 08:49 PM
I think both sides should stop posting about this until the actual match is played. NO ONE knows for sure what is going to happen. Rducky says Ivan will win, Adeegee says Nadal will win neither of you know for sure so everyone should stop bikering back in forth and wait for the match to be played then talk if you like.

Firstly, I've never actually said Nadal will win. I just really hope he does after listening to comments like "Nadal is crap on anything apart from clay", "Nadal has no weapons to hurt anyone on a hard court", "Nadal hasn't got a hope against the wonderful Ivan Ljubicic" etc etc

Secondly, the bickering is good fun :D

Roger-No.1
03-28-2005, 09:48 PM
It will be an interesting match

El Legenda
03-28-2005, 10:42 PM
Ivan's wrong, his match against Nadal in Doha was easy, was it not Rducky?

I think Ivan played left handed the whole match ;) ;)

Good News...Match is might get some time on ESPN...if Sharapova gets done quickly. :worship:

uNIVERSE mAN
03-28-2005, 10:45 PM
I still don't understand how Rafa got killed in the USO by Roddick, he hits his incredibly heavy forehand to the backhand side of righthanders 90% of the time, how the hell did Roddick handle that, I wish I had watched that match.

NATAS81
03-29-2005, 12:18 AM
Ljubicic better bring his A game against Rafa. Nadal will outlast him if he wants to do tiebreaks all day long like against Spadea. Whom the Americans never really cared about. lol.

Scotso
03-29-2005, 12:21 AM
I still don't understand how Rafa got killed in the USO by Roddick, he hits his incredibly heavy forehand to the backhand side of righthanders 90% of the time, how the hell did Roddick handle that, I wish I had watched that match.

I saw it, and of the times I've seen Rafael play, that was the worst. He seemed nervous and just out of sorts in that match. He served awfully and returned even worse.

Roger-No.1
03-29-2005, 02:20 AM
Was it his first match in Arthur Ashe?

Chloe le Bopper
03-29-2005, 02:29 AM
Yes, it was.

I imagine he'll still have difficulty returning Roddick's serve next time that they play on hardcourt... and given his own serve, in hindsight the bagel almost sort of makes sense. But hopefully it doesn't happen again ;)

Scotso
03-29-2005, 02:34 AM
Rafael actually calmed down around the end and was playing better, but he just didn't get into is quickly enough.

Chloe le Bopper
03-29-2005, 03:32 AM
We had it on tape delay here, but there was no way i was staying up to watch that ;)

Scotso
03-29-2005, 03:41 AM
Blasphemer!

NATAS81
03-29-2005, 04:11 AM
I didn't look when this match starts, which I will after I post this right-quick. But just wanted to point out that you have to think Nadal will get the kind of support Zabaleta did against Federer and nearly prepelled him to a win!

RickDaStick
03-29-2005, 04:56 AM
I didn't look when this match starts, which I will after I post this right-quick. But just wanted to point out that you have to think Nadal will get the kind of support Zabaleta did against Federer and nearly prepelled him to a win!

why...is Nadal..from south amercian...there is alot of Croatains in Miami and south Florida.

Roger-No.1
03-29-2005, 05:06 AM
Nadal is from Spain....

Maybe because he speaks Spanish.

Miami = Spanish

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:08 AM
Nadal is from Spain....

Maybe because he speaks Spanish.

Miami = Spanish

...but...thats like saying people in England(GREAT B) will love Roddick cuz he speak english..

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:10 AM
am i right or am i right :)

Action Jackson
03-29-2005, 05:14 AM
As they say in the classics "bring it on".

Roger-No.1
03-29-2005, 05:15 AM
...but...thats like saying people in England(GREAT B) will love Roddick cuz he speak english..
True. Just explaining the possible word association....

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:15 AM
As they say in the classics "bring it on".

what are we bring on?

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:16 AM
True. Just explaining the possible word association....

we both get A+ ;)

Roger-No.1
03-29-2005, 05:16 AM
am i right or am i right :)
ok, ok. you're right.

NATAS81
03-29-2005, 05:30 AM
The raucus crowd seemed to rally around Monfils which in no way is partisan France. And Nadal carries that in-your-face demeanor which is likely to excite the fans.

Action Jackson
03-29-2005, 05:45 AM
what are we bring on?

adegee and yourself both backing your guys with great pride.

Bring on the Ljubo and Nadal match. :)

liptea
03-29-2005, 05:49 AM
adegee and yourself both backing your guys with great pride.

Bring on the Ljubo and Nadal match. :)

I don't understand why this isn't a night match?!?

OK, so I understand that every little child around America is going to tune in to see Venus and Serena, the role models of women's tennis, play each other. But seriously, I'd rather see Rafa/Ivan at night than Dent/Mayer.

If ESPN really wants more viewers, they need to start televising a major foreign match AFTER a majorly hyped one. Then maybe people would tune and learn more about the sport.

bad gambler
03-29-2005, 05:50 AM
even after the DC do people in the states know who ljubicic is ?

that's probably your reason....

NATAS81
03-29-2005, 05:55 AM
If ESPN really wants more viewers, they need to start televising a major foreign match AFTER a majorly hyped one. Then maybe people would tune and learn more about the sport.
They showed the first five games of Molik/Hardenne before running out of time.

Roger-No.1
03-29-2005, 05:57 AM
OK, so I understand that every little child around America is going to tune in to see Venus and Serena, the role models of women's tennis, play each other. But seriously, I'd rather see Rafa/Ivan at night than Dent/Mayer.

If ESPN really wants more viewers, they need to start televising a major foreign match AFTER a majorly hyped one. Then maybe people would tune and learn more about the sport.
First paragraph: :haha:

Second paragraph: Good idea. Because fans think Ljubicic/Nadal will be a good match and just becuse these players are from Croatia and Spain, they don't exist.

Action Jackson
03-29-2005, 06:01 AM
Lucky me I don't have ESPN and to the people who have to put up with it, that sucks, but I don't want to change positions.

liptea
03-29-2005, 06:07 AM
They showed the first five games of Molik/Hardenne before running out of time.

I know. But I wish that Molk/Hardenne had been the hyped match, instead of Agassi/Clement, which was really kinda disappointing to watch. But, since people are tuned in to watch Agassi anyway, why not quickly turn to a really good match, show a spectacular point ( :bowdown: Justine), and keep running the match?

Sorry. ESPN is completely rant-worthy. *looks sheepish*

I'm still hoping Rafa can pull it off-he's still the Upset King of Miami...maybe he'll look to hold that title.

NATAS81
03-29-2005, 06:16 AM
I know. But I wish that Molk/Hardenne had been the hyped match, instead of Agassi/Clement, which was really kinda disappointing to watch. But, since people are tuned in to watch Agassi anyway, why not quickly turn to a really good match, show a spectacular point ( :bowdown: Justine), and keep running the match?

I agree totally with this viewpoint and have ranted against how ESPN has handled their coverage in the past. But, I was fairly pleased with what they managed to put together in their limited timeslot yesterday (Monday).

You have to savor any non-American coverage you can get when it comes to ESPN. Like I said, all we can hope for is a setup that allows the fan to choose the match they want to see with cameras at each court. There doesn't need to be a commentator at each match, either.

I'm sure people were alot happier with what the Arabic network provided during the AO than what is shown on ESPN.

Roger-No.1
03-29-2005, 06:20 AM
Like I said, all we can hope for is a setup that allows the fan to choose the match they want to see with cameras at each court. There doesn't need to be a commentator at each match, either.

I'm sure people were alot happier with what the Arabic network provided during the AO than what is shown on ESPN.
That would be nice.... people hate commentators anyway.....

ok, not all of them....

Roger-No.1
03-29-2005, 07:27 AM
Ljubicic is winning the poll...

Nadal is very close....

The match is a few hours away...

bad gambler
03-29-2005, 12:37 PM
damn where are adeegee and duckboy? i want some pre fight action before the main event :boxing:

Billy Moonshine
03-29-2005, 12:41 PM
Nadal in 2

adeegee
03-29-2005, 03:30 PM
damn where are adeegee and duckboy? i want some pre fight action before the main event :boxing:

I'm here, gearing myself up for the big event :boxing:

I'm absolutely distraught sky are cutting coverage to show england under 21's in the footy. I'll be cheering my boy on while watching the scoreboard though.

Just to light the fuse ahead of the big event....A few comments from the Croats on this board recently

"Nadal has absolutely no weapons to hurt good players on a hard court"
"Nadal is crap on anything apart from clay"
"Nadal can only do well in mickey mouse tournaments, Ivan only plays in big tournaments"
"Why have a poll asking who will win this match, we should ask how many games Nadal will win"

You people are going to be throwing up on an awful lot of humble pie tonight :D :D :D

adeegee
03-29-2005, 03:40 PM
New addition from Silvio :

Nadal will be blown off the court tonight :haha:

Scotso
03-29-2005, 03:42 PM
I didn't look when this match starts, which I will after I post this right-quick. But just wanted to point out that you have to think Nadal will get the kind of support Zabaleta did against Federer and nearly prepelled him to a win!

Don't attack him for this, he's right. The people in Miami are mostly hispanic and tend to support other hispanic players. Nadal will have a lot of fans there.... more than Ivan, I'm sure.

GoranIvanisevic546346
03-29-2005, 04:49 PM
Nadal currently cant hurt Ivan on hard....

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 04:54 PM
The man is here...yes i just woke up...well the match in front of the main event is still on..so im going to back to bad...bad hangover...

adeegee
03-29-2005, 04:58 PM
hey RDucky, don't lie in too long I need some good arguments during the match :boxing:

adeegee
03-29-2005, 05:00 PM
Nadal currently cant hurt Ivan on hard....

:haha: i'll remind you of that quote after the match. you croats really are very confident :rolleyes: i'm afraid you're going to be brought back down to earth with a bump

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:13 PM
:haha: i'll remind you of that quote after the match. you croats really are very confident :rolleyes: i'm afraid you're going to be brought back down to earth with a bump

you seem very confident that Nadal will win....

adeegee
03-29-2005, 05:29 PM
you seem very confident that Nadal will win....

Not really, I'd make Ivan slight favourite. I just think all this talk of Ivan winning with ease is nonsense, I have no doubts it'll be close. I just really hope Nadal wins to shutup people like Silvio

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:32 PM
i never said it will be easy match...ill be suprised if it didnt go 3 sets.
ivan does not like lefties...he likes to hit from baseline back and forth and nadal wont do that...he knows that he cant hit vs Ivan..

adeegee
03-29-2005, 05:39 PM
i never said it will be easy match...ill be suprised if it didnt go 3 sets.
ivan does not like lefties...he likes to hit from baseline back and forth and nadal wont do that...he knows that he cant hit vs Ivan..

You've been better recently, you did go through a phase a couple of weeks ago when you said Ivan would wipe the floor with Rafa on hard. Your fellow Croats are in for a major shock when Nadal keeps this match very close, I think they expect Ivan to lose a maximum of 4 games :rolleyes:

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:41 PM
You've been better recently, you did go through a phase a couple of weeks ago when you said Ivan would wipe the floor with Rafa on hard. Your fellow Croats are in for a major shock when Nadal keeps this match very close, I think they expect Ivan to lose a maximum of 4 games :rolleyes:

im kind coming to need Ivan to win...i have 15k of vCash on him...If Ivan serves 1st serves over 60% i cant see him loosing.

El Legenda
03-29-2005, 05:42 PM
CLOSE THE POLL THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN 58-IVAN 42-NADAL. SOME CALL MIAMI TELL THEM NO POINT OF PLAYING THE MATCH. WE HAVE PICKED THE WINNER.

Nacho
03-29-2005, 05:51 PM
this poll is mine and I'm not closing it dude :devil: ;)

blosson
03-29-2005, 07:19 PM
Don't close it just yet. Young Nadal is doing just fine!! Vamos.

adeegee
03-29-2005, 07:41 PM
:D

Rex
03-29-2005, 07:43 PM
rafa in 3 :rocker:

blosson
03-29-2005, 07:49 PM
he is so fine now it might even be rafa in 2

tennischick
03-29-2005, 09:10 PM
Nadal :eek: :eek:

it's the capris i tella ya ;)

blosson
03-29-2005, 09:11 PM
rafa, one more game, you can do it!

tennischick
03-29-2005, 09:12 PM
3 match points :eek:

Llodra must have stolen all of Lbj's mojo ;)

blosson
03-29-2005, 09:15 PM
OLE Rafa. Well done!!!

tinuviel_estel
03-29-2005, 09:15 PM
nadal won 6-4 6-7 (5) 6-3