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Saturday 26 March - Miami

Ale10
03-26-2005, 12:23 AM
There isn't bad odds for some favs. Andre, PimPim, Chela and Coria are all 'must wins' for about 1.2

And there are other interesting matches too. Kiwi, Haas, Lapentti have good chances.

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 02:22 AM
ancic for 1,73 and lopez for 1,77 looks good

flmmkrz
03-26-2005, 02:52 AM
mello holds a 4-0 lifetime against ancic, with the great slow court equalizer slowing ancics serve down this one looks like a mello win to me.

I never consider chela a must win, coria and pim pim should be locks, but at 1.2 I usually dont bother but I got today to make up for so I may parlay the 2 them.

I like minar over henman as my upset pick of the day. Might throw a little bit on flip too, but that bastards burned me more times than I care to count. I need to take a closer look to be sure what i'll take on tho.

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 03:03 AM
flip is injured mate - he has no chance againt gonzo

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 03:04 AM
flip is injured mate - he has no chance againt gonzo
good to know :bounce:

tennisman.
03-26-2005, 03:05 AM
Gonzalez and Federer pays 1.54
Pound it BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MalmöKrampan
03-26-2005, 03:06 AM
ancic for 1,73 and lopez for 1,77 looks good


Ancic is unpredictable...although he should win. Lopez @ 1.77 looks very nice!!

jole
03-26-2005, 03:06 AM
Is the Flip ankle issue quite real for sure?

jole
03-26-2005, 03:06 AM
Clement has a bit of a shot against Lopez imo, ala Santoro.

MalmöKrampan
03-26-2005, 03:07 AM
Gonzalez and Federer pays 1.54
Pound it BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My bookie has 1.05 on Federer. Bastards!

It's a valuebet though... :)

NATAS81
03-26-2005, 03:12 AM
Is the Flip ankle issue quite real for sure?
Looked bad on getty. No word officially.

flmmkrz
03-26-2005, 03:16 AM
good to know, he held a 2-0 lifetime was encouraging enough to take a look at but i'll lay off that one then.

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 03:18 AM
it has been in the news over here that flip is doubtful to play tomorrow

so i say at the mimimum pound gonzo - worst you can do is get a refund

jole
03-26-2005, 03:25 AM
Prolly Gonzo single. And Coria/Joachim parlay.

fisherking
03-26-2005, 03:25 AM
Zaba and Clement - the best
Lapentti - good
Mello?

jole
03-26-2005, 03:26 AM
Mello isn't bad. The only thing is that his demolishing of Ventura doesn't mean much, since Ventura was hurt badly.

jole
03-26-2005, 03:27 AM
Or hell, probably worth adding Gonzo into the Coria/Pim Pim parlay.

Ale10
03-26-2005, 03:30 AM
Or hell, probably worth adding Gonzo into the Coria/Pim Pim parlay.

It has a good odds. (2.05)

Ale10
03-26-2005, 03:30 AM
Kiefer over Mayer?
Gaudio over Phau?

gsm
03-26-2005, 03:31 AM
Is the Flip ankle issue quite real for sure?
from
http://www.bookiebusters.net/discus/messages/9645/16670.html?1111805477

"beware if you are intending to back Philippoussis tomorrow.Philippoussis took a nasty tumble and required treatment from a trainer but still beat Christophe Rochus 6-4, 6-2. He left the complex on crutches but hoped to be able to play his next match Saturday, an ATP Tour spokesman said."

jole
03-26-2005, 03:32 AM
from
http://www.bookiebusters.net/discus/messages/9645/16670.html?1111805477

"beware if you are intending to back Philippoussis tomorrow.Philippoussis took a nasty tumble and required treatment from a trainer but still beat Christophe Rochus 6-4, 6-2. He left the complex on crutches but hoped to be able to play his next match Saturday, an ATP Tour spokesman said."

Thank you, friend.

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 03:35 AM
my early lean is as follows:

parlaying the following:

kiefer/dent/srichaphan - $2.70 I would also add gonzo but it is off the board for me

will check back later for singles plays

jole
03-26-2005, 03:36 AM
I really like Dent over Hanescu as a single, but Dent can be two-faced.

RickDaStick
03-26-2005, 03:36 AM
Where do you guys do your betting at?

jole
03-26-2005, 03:37 AM
Might do:

Coria/Pim/Gonzalez parlay
Kiefer single (he is playing well, and Mayer has been crap)
Dent single (he is apparently over his food poisoning, and Hanescu truly is not that good)

Ale10
03-26-2005, 03:42 AM
Gonzalez not looking sure for me...

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 03:42 AM
I really like Dent over Hanescu as a single, but Dent can be two-faced.

not much value at $1.30 or so though - best to chuck it into a parlay to add some value

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 03:43 AM
Where do you guys do your betting at?


my main ones are sportodds, centrebet, willhill and bet365 - latter two specifically for overseas sport betting

jole
03-26-2005, 03:44 AM
not much value at $1.30 or so though - best to chuck it into a parlay to add some value

Shit, it's at 1.30? Grr. I wasn't thinking earlier, no lines yet for me.

jole
03-26-2005, 03:45 AM
Gonzo should retire if he can't take out a non 100% Philippoussis.

Ale10
03-26-2005, 03:45 AM
I think I will chose Kiefer into the Coria/PimPim parlay, not Gonzo.

jackieglover
03-26-2005, 03:51 AM
Where do you guys do your betting at?

Pinnacle (Best lines, biggest online limits)
5dimes (good book with lots of selection, tennis parlays, but limits are kinda small)
WSEX (good for live betting, higher limit tennis parlays)
Hollywood107 (-107 on all lines, always keep a little in there as an option to find a cheaper line, decent moneylines as well)
WWTS (Not much anymore, but will deposit to take advantage of off entertainment lines occassionally like the Oscars this year)
DSI & CRIS (High limits, earliest lines, sometimes you can find an opinionated line, but the -110 lines blow, so don't use it much)

All are as reliable as they come for quick payouts and top notch customer service. I do the majority of my betting at Pinnacle (I have 3 accounts there when I was nuts and betting insane amounts :lol: )

Ale10
03-26-2005, 03:56 AM
I will on:

1. Agassi x Coria x Kiefer x JoJo
2. A huge parlay with many events. (soccer and tennis)


I go home to my parents for Easter, so good (and lucky) days for everybody!

jole
03-26-2005, 03:56 AM
I will on:

1. Agassi x Coria x Kiefer x JoJo
2. A huge parlay with many events. (soccer and tennis)


I go home to my parents for Easter, so good (and lucky) days for everybody!

Have fun, cya.

NATAS81
03-26-2005, 04:05 AM
Breakin out the Blue/Yellow tomorrow.

jole
03-26-2005, 04:12 AM
Just submitted:

Gonzo single

Gonzo
Coria
Joachim parlay

Mello small single
Lapentti small single
Minar small single
Fish small single

NATAS81
03-26-2005, 04:14 AM
PDorn/Fed/Pim parlay

happy928
03-26-2005, 04:56 AM
Play #1:

I really like Minar(+410) to beat Henman tomorrow....

Minar has beaten some top tier players this yr and took ROGI "The Tennis Master" to 3rd set TB in Dubai....

Henman goes down tomorrow....


Play #2:

Gonzo Over Flip...Hate to go against one of my favorite players, but money talks and BS walks....

Play #3:

Hanescu (+275) over Dent....They played on Grass last yr and Hanescu had MPs and couldn't put Dent away....Won 1st set...and lost 2 & 3rd set in a CLOSE TB....I Wasn't really impressed with how Hanescu destroyed Dupuis in his 1st match here, but It's a worth a shot to lay little money on Victor tomorrow....

jackieglover
03-26-2005, 07:33 AM
Thought about PimPim, Coria, Chela, Agassi, Gonzo, Dent parlay @ $3.63, but Miami's been such a nightmare, I'm just going to pass and wait for basketball. Want to do singles on Mello, Lapentti, Zabaleta, and Clement maybe.

JMG
03-26-2005, 08:28 AM
I choose only Kiefer from tennis in a parlay with England/France/Kiefer @2.05.

adeegee
03-26-2005, 10:18 AM
I personally think its horrendous matches to bet on today. I'm desperate for a good day after yesterday's disaster. I'm almost tempted to go with no bets today, I'd suggest I'm about as likely to stick to that as me becoming Prime Minister of Britain. Just looking through the matches, I'll let you know what I find.

I've just offered Gaudio at 1.35, £500 on gamebookers. No-one's really been tempted though.

adeegee
03-26-2005, 10:29 AM
Right......

1 major bet for the day, accumulater on Gonzo, Coria, Grosjean on Chela pays 3.5, gone big on that

Also offered Gaudio at 1.35 up to £500 and Henman at 1.25 up to £750, I like the idea of a big profit with only a small liability.

Also gone big on England to beat Northern Ireland with a -2 handicap, with a small cover on a draw with -2 handicap, there's no way they won't win by more than 1.

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 10:34 AM
grosjean is playing like shit these days - i'd remove him from all bets until he gets his house in order....

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 10:36 AM
on top of my earlier parlay playing the following single..

lopez to beat clement - $1.70

adeegee
03-26-2005, 10:37 AM
grosjean is playing like shit these days - i'd remove him from all bets until he gets his house in order....

i know i took it into serious condition. but he bumped up the odds a whole lot. and this swayed me, seb's been very dominant on hard.

Grosjean leads Lapentti 6-1

2004 Miami AMS, Hard, R64
FL, U.S.A. Hard R64 Grosjean 6 3 6 4
2003 Australian Open, Hard, R32
Australia Hard R32 Grosjean 6 1 6 3 6 3
2001 Gstaad, Clay, R16
Switzerland Clay R16 Grosjean 4 6 6 4 7 6
2000 Stuttgart Indoor, Hard, R32
Germany Hard R32 Grosjean 6 1 6 0
2000 Indianapolis, Hard, R16
IN, U.S.A. Hard R16 Grosjean 7 6 6 2
1999 Lyon, Carpet, R16
France Carpet R16 Lapentti 6 4 4 6 1 6
1998 Monte Carlo, Clay, R64
Monaco Clay R64 Grosjean 6 2 6 4

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 10:38 AM
mate i hope for your sake he wins, if anything i'd be leaning to nicos, but good luck ;)

adeegee
03-26-2005, 10:40 AM
mate i hope for your sake he wins, if anything i'd be leaning to nicos, but good luck ;)

cheers mate, i was thinking about clement to beat lopez actually but i left it alone. i would've favoured lopez but after seeing his appalling performance against santoro who's got a pretty similar game to clement i changed my mind

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 10:42 AM
yeah lopez was a small play for me - i just loaded up on my parlay and sit tight with that for tomorrow

this tournament has been too unpredictable thus far for my liking

adeegee
03-26-2005, 10:44 AM
Your parlay looks ok, only worry would be Paradorn. If the courts as slow as it supposedly is he could be in trouble. He's won like 3 matches in 2 years on clay :confused: i know its not the same as a slow hard court but he definitely prefers the quicker surfaces

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 10:53 AM
my plays for today !!

Gonzo + Coria + Chela + Kiefer + Agassi

double with Mello + Stepanek (small stake)

adeegee
03-26-2005, 10:58 AM
my plays for today !!

Gonzo + Coria + Chela + Kiefer + Agassi

double with Mello + Stepanek (small stake)

Surely you're not going against PHM!!!

By the way you'll all be happy to hear I put my betting woes to the back of my mind and caned some cocky little shit 6-2 6-1 this morning :p

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 11:02 AM
Surely you're not going against PHM!!!

By the way you'll all be happy to hear I put my betting woes to the back of my mind and caned some cocky little shit 6-2 6-1 this morning :p

I ve got to mate ..I had Agassi @ 1.33 ...odds are just too good ;)

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 11:03 AM
By the way you'll all be happy to hear I put my betting woes to the back of my mind and caned some cocky little shit 6-2 6-1 this morning :p

Congrats bro ...surely a true professional !!!! :) :p

adeegee
03-26-2005, 11:05 AM
I ve got to mate ..I had Agassi @ 1.33 ...odds are just too good ;)

Depends, his odds might be that high due to worries about his fitness

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 11:07 AM
Depends, his odds might be that high due to worries about his fitness

yeah it might..still i like his chances ... i m lookin for Agassi doin the same damage to PHM like Hewitt last week !!!

adeegee
03-26-2005, 11:10 AM
yeah it might..still i like his chances ... i m lookin for Agassi doin the same damage to PHM like Hewitt last week !!!

:p that was hard on young PHM, he didn't deserve it. I've left it alone, I'll back PHM to beat any player ranked 30 or worse at the moment, but I think Andre will be too much for him.

Anyone wanna take up some money on Gaudio or Henman at Gamebookers I'm offering good odds, with a high maximum stake :rolleyes:

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 11:12 AM
what are you offereing for henman?

adeegee
03-26-2005, 11:15 AM
what are you offereing for henman?

quite a stingy 1.25

gamebookers have him at 1.2. I offered up to £600, so if all of it is matched and Minar wins I'll get £600. If Henman wins I lose £150, not too big a deal. Gaudio's at 1.35 up to £500 (sorry no idea what the currency conversions are like at the moment :p )

adeegee
03-26-2005, 11:16 AM
I've only just got into this person 2 person thing, its quite interesting

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 11:19 AM
betfair is the best in terms of liquidity

adeegee
03-26-2005, 11:23 AM
betfair is the best in terms of liquidity

yeah i know....i only signed up for gamebookers coz i wanted to bet on the miami qualifying and they were the first place i saw that did it. now i've built up quite an impressive balance i thought i may as well stick with it for the time being

its.like.that
03-26-2005, 01:15 PM
my parlay: Chela x Johansson x Stepanek x Coria x Dent x Fed x Kiefer x Gonzalez x Agassi @ 7.2

Juanito
03-26-2005, 01:38 PM
No day for big stakes after yesterday's success with Rafa.

Small stakes on:
Kiefer straight
Gonzo straight
Grosjean (Lapentti just won the match against Beck, but had big problems in Qualifying. Even a Grosjean who isn't in his best shape should defeat him.)

Very small ones on the dogs Minar and Lisnard.

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 02:44 PM
look at chela no words ....

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 02:58 PM
he will win lisnard isn´t that good

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 03:20 PM
what a shocker
Chela back in it

1-6 6-2

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 03:36 PM
=)

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 03:47 PM
Chela is all over Lisnard

1-6 6-2 5-1*

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 03:54 PM
Chela wins

1-6 6-2 6-2

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 03:58 PM
as i said he wins =)

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 03:58 PM
as i said he wins =)


;) ;) ;)

adeegee
03-26-2005, 04:06 PM
:wavey: Alright guys. Decent start to the day for me. England comfortably cover the -2 handicap against Northern Ireland with a 4-0 win. Chela also completes the 1st part of my accumulater. Gaudio winning cost me a little bit but nothing major

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 04:08 PM
:wavey: Alright guys. Decent start to the day for me. England comfortably cover the -2 handicap against Northern Ireland with a 4-0 win. Chela also completes the 1st part of my accumulater. Gaudio winning cost me a little bit but nothing major
you bet against gaston??

adeegee
03-26-2005, 04:14 PM
you bet against gaston??

well he's got an awful record on hard. on gamebookers, i offered gaston at 1.35 on the person 2 person exchange. my thinking was if he loses i make a decent profit, if he wins i don't lose too much. it wasn't that bad he lost. i did the same for the henman match but no-one backed henman at the 1.25 i was offering :sad:

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 04:32 PM
henman is @ 1.25 on betfair

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 04:35 PM
damn Radek!!! break him for the set her c mon

RickDaStick
03-26-2005, 04:38 PM
did you go with Stepanek? Bennetaeau has had good results on the Miami hardcourts. I would of gone with Julian but stayed away.

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 04:41 PM
did you go with Stepanek? Bennetaeau has had good results on the Miami hardcourts. I would of gone with Julian but stayed away.


yeah i played a double with Mello and Radek...just a small stake



i m big with chela coria agassi kiefer and gonzo

jackieglover
03-26-2005, 04:43 PM
Good morning all :wavey: Hope your bets are going well, I haven't bet anything on Miami today and doubt I will.

RickDaStick
03-26-2005, 04:44 PM
Any NBA?

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 04:46 PM
Good morning all :wavey: Hope your bets are going well, I haven't bet anything on Miami today and doubt I will.


you got all the reasons not too...Chela shocked us with his first set loss 1-6 put pulled out the win with a great comeback

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 04:48 PM
Radek took the first !!!

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 04:48 PM
Its not always about your beauty ..its your game !! vamos Radek !!!

RickDaStick
03-26-2005, 04:50 PM
You got lucky there with Radek. Didnt JB have 3 set points?

RickDaStick
03-26-2005, 04:50 PM
or atleast 3 BP to serve out the set

jackieglover
03-26-2005, 04:51 PM
Any NBA?

Not yet. Double checking some things first. Doubt I will get my research done in time for Minnesota/New Jersey game.

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 04:51 PM
You got lucky there with Radek. Didnt JB have 3 set points?

well i don t know about that Radek blew a 5-2 lead and yes Julien had 3 Bp at 5-5 ...so i think they both choked in someway...especially Julien at 5*-6

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 05:10 PM
Radek demolishes Julien 7-5 6-0

8 games in arow

good start todaay

NATAS81
03-26-2005, 05:16 PM
Whoever parlayed Pim is screwed.

Go Taylor!!!

jole
03-26-2005, 06:43 PM
Joachim is a funny guy. :)

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 07:49 PM
absolutely horrible !!!! Kiefer that fuckin idiot just threw that match away

jackieglover
03-26-2005, 08:01 PM
Kiefer killed my parlay, won with Zabaleta, so up a little for today and have Mello pending.

flmmkrz
03-26-2005, 08:03 PM
wow I dont know whether to quit betting on this tourny or keep going cuz it cant keep going like this. My guts saying back off of it tho. Pim pim killed me, kiefer was a nice chunk of change lost, 2 different parlays on each of them. Mello is up right now but he should lose to follow todays actually the weeks pattern. I put a bit down on Ivo to beat henmen so that wasnt a huge surprise but took my chances. Glad I didnt touch paradorn. And hanescu the bastard retiring, that was my 1 win of the day, well that counts since others were ruined in parlays, and I get back my money on it instead of the win. I hate this tourny !

flmmkrz
03-26-2005, 08:06 PM
cant forget feliciano losing either, and the bball game going under was a nice touch.

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 08:06 PM
i lost on everything - had a shocking day in miami, and also lost on the first bball game - fade me!!!!!

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 08:06 PM
any thoughts on Haas - Fish?

bad gambler
03-26-2005, 08:07 PM
any thoughts on Haas - Fish?


you would think haas, but no way i'm parting with any more money on tennis today!!!

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 08:10 PM
you would think haas, but no way i'm parting with any more money on tennis today!!!

u re definetely right .. i m off this one

flmmkrz
03-26-2005, 08:11 PM
any thoughts on Haas - Fish?

well my honest opinion is ask everyone what their thoughts are asw you've done make sure its a decided opinion, like 15 think haas will win and 2 think fish will, then pick the opposite of the popular consensus pick and you have yourself a winner :p

or if that takes too much time just randomly pick a name out of a hat, leave it to fate cuz an educated opinion in this tourny means jackshit.

do I sound pissed :D

for the record I think haas should win as well

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 08:13 PM
My Black List is gettin bigger and bigger ...

MrOschie
03-26-2005, 08:22 PM
you would think haas, but no way i'm parting with any more money on tennis today!!!
i just think of parting the whole tournament i think its not worth it maybe again in the semis or final but its hopeless here....

SwiSha
03-26-2005, 09:41 PM
another funny kid Mello

its.like.that
03-26-2005, 11:46 PM
yessssssssssssssss zabaleta... people should stop underestimating him.. or it will burn you ;)

NATAS81
03-27-2005, 12:37 AM
Or stop over-estimating Safin. Whichever hurts you first. :smash:

MrOschie
03-27-2005, 02:30 AM
andre :woohoo: