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federer: a bit too hot to handle

Rex
03-21-2005, 11:25 AM
he is a bit too hot on the court right now- who can beat him.
really??? apart from safin who could trouble federer seriously and even win.

Action Jackson
03-21-2005, 11:29 AM
How many more Federer appreciation threads do we need? The game of tennis is dying because of his dominance, the other players should go home and go and concentrate on something else.

Art&Soul
03-21-2005, 11:36 AM
How many more Federer appreciation threads do we need? The game of tennis is dying because of his dominance, the other players should go home and go and concentrate on something else.
Yup they can go home and cry to their mama :) Interesting that the many appreciation threads are not from Roger's fans :cool:

Rogiman
03-21-2005, 11:38 AM
Interesting that the many appreciation threads are not from Roger's fans :cool:

Which doesn't make it all the less redundant

Action Jackson
03-21-2005, 11:40 AM
Which doesn't make it all the less redundant

Stop making sense.

Roger-No.1
03-21-2005, 11:43 AM
he is a bit too hot on the court right now- who can beat him.
really??? apart from safin who could trouble federer seriously and even win.
Agassi!

Ok, ok, this is 4 months too late

Four months ago you would hear that in every corner!

The name changes each time.

mickymouse
03-21-2005, 11:47 AM
To be honest, I think Roddick if he gets a high percentage of his first serves in. A tb between the two is still likely to go Federer's way but at least Roddick will have a chance at the roulette.

Roger-No.1
03-21-2005, 11:49 AM
To be honest, I think Roddick if he gets a high percentage of his first serves in. A tb between the two is still likely to go Federer's way but at least Roddick will have a chance at the roulette.
The new coach seems to be better than Gilbert

Action Jackson
03-21-2005, 11:52 AM
That's why the name is mickeymouse Roddick hasn't got the brain and tactical capacity to beat Federer consistently. Federer owns him in every way and unless he serves 100% of first serves then he won't beat him consistently.

Art&Soul
03-21-2005, 11:54 AM
Which doesn't make it all the less redundant
Damn, close them all :eek:

blosson
03-21-2005, 12:08 PM
The dude in my av is one of the contenders to beat Roger. He's not using his brains properly in recent days.

Rogiman
03-21-2005, 12:09 PM
his brains :confused:

Action Jackson
03-21-2005, 12:13 PM
A record of 3-19 against 3 of the top players (Federer, Agassi and Hewitt) shows he has the credentials to beat Roger consistently.

CooCooCachoo
03-21-2005, 12:36 PM
There are actually many people capable of beating Roger on a bad day :p It's just that he limits himself to like ten bad days per year :p

blosson
03-21-2005, 12:42 PM
:confused:


You might not believe but he has one - he just forgets to pack it up when he plays Roger and Hewitt. It's always there when he play other guys...

WyveN
03-21-2005, 12:52 PM
You might not believe but he has one - he just forgets to pack it up when he plays Roger and Hewitt. It's always there when he play other guys...

What a coincidence.

User ID 4783
03-21-2005, 01:23 PM
Federer was at least a bit troubled when playing Ljubicic this year...

Billabong
03-21-2005, 01:33 PM
:lol:

Cervantes
03-21-2005, 01:34 PM
Martin Verkerk when he's fit

Experimentee
03-21-2005, 01:42 PM
Berdych, Hrbaty, Safin, Guga and Costa, to name a few. But I highly doubt the ability of the latter to ever repeat that victory.

Action Jackson
03-21-2005, 01:43 PM
Felix Mantilla

blosson
03-21-2005, 02:14 PM
What a coincidence.

That's why he has a mental issue when playing these 2 players

jacobhiggins
03-21-2005, 03:39 PM
When people want the number one athlete in there given sport to lose because they always win, that shows you how great Federer is, and where his spot in Tennis History is likely to be. People are saying he's too dominate, Crazy if you think about :worship:

wimbledonfan
03-21-2005, 07:20 PM
I think joachim will be the Richard krajicek of this generation and quite possible has the game to beat any player when he's serving in excellent form . Nadal is another player who is a lefty and can create problems to rogers backhand side .

I'll make a prediction and say Nadal will beat Roger at this years french open .

adeegee
03-21-2005, 07:26 PM
I think there's next to no point rallying with Roger from the back of the court, he'll beat you almost every time. I've said this in another thread, but the last time I saw Roger properly rattled was the Wimbledon 04 final when Roddick unleashed on everything and Federer was pretty much powerless to stop it. No doubt, its hard to keep landing with these shots over the course of a match as Roddick found out, but its probably the closest he's come to beating him (other than the 1 time he did). Thats why I think someone like Gonzalez could unsettle him, more than a Hewitt, Canas or Coria

Fumus
03-21-2005, 07:29 PM
He'll burn-out. Athletes who dominate rarely last, usually they find consistantly winning empty and go up and down as they search for a reason to compete...atleast I can hope right?! ;)

adeegee
03-21-2005, 07:30 PM
He'll burn-out. Athletes who dominate rarely last, usually they find consistantly winning empty and go up and down as they search for a reason to compete...atleast I can hope right?! ;)

I'd say its more likely that the chasing pack of Roddick/Safin/Hewitt and co. will catch up. Much like Vijay Singh and Ernie Els caught up with Tiger Woods in golf, when everyone was saying a few years ago that Tiger would win every tournament he enters.

Fumus
03-21-2005, 07:39 PM
I'd say its more likely that the chasing pack of Roddick/Safin/Hewitt and co. will catch up. Much like Vijay Singh and Ernie Els caught up with Tiger Woods in golf, when everyone was saying a few years ago that Tiger would win every tournament he enters.

Lets take a look in the future shall we and read some headlines....*wosh time machine*

2 years later - Federer extends winning streak to 909093443, pronouced greatest tennis player ever.

4 years later - Federer wins every event on the tour 3x with out dropping a game.

6 years later - Under Swiss President Roger Federer, Switzerland drops it's neutrality and takes over the world due to the military brillance of Federer. The United Swiss government said "It was our plan all along, the seeds were planted long ago, now we can torture those insolent bastards at ESPN once and for all....muuu whoooo hahahaah!!"


THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED NOW, THE FATE OF FREE WORLD DEPENDS ON IT!!!!

PETE COME BACK PLEASE, SOMEONE FIND RODDICK A BRAIN ON EBAY!!!

Skyward
03-21-2005, 07:52 PM
Thats why I think someone like Gonzalez could unsettle him, more than a Hewitt, Canas or Coria

Roger is 2-0 against Gonzalez, both wins were routine. And dont't tell me Gonzalez will change his tactics in the future, he doesn't know the meaning of this word. ;)

Saumon
03-21-2005, 07:57 PM
SOMEONE FIND RODDICK A BRAIN ON EBAY!!!
:haha: :haha:

intikab
03-21-2005, 08:02 PM
LOL Fumus. But don't get carried away. Just the law of averages dictates that Federer will lose now and then. Additonally he can have an off-day, play a few loose points in a service game or a key tiebreaker against a hot server and lose. Not too mention he could simply get outplayed on certain days by guys like Safin, Roddick, Ancic etc.

As a Federer fan, I hope he saves his best for the slams and ends up with at least 9 (there is a logjam at 8 with Connors, Lendl, Agassi). Roddick will probably be his biggest rival in that he is most likely to end up the 2nd most number of slams (5 or 6).

Fumus
03-21-2005, 08:25 PM
LOL Fumus. But don't get carried away. Just the law of averages dictates that Federer will lose now and then. Additonally he can have an off-day, play a few loose points in a service game or a key tiebreaker against a hot server and lose. Not too mention he could simply get outplayed on certain days by guys like Safin, Roddick, Ancic etc.

As a Federer fan, I hope he saves his best for the slams and ends up with at least 9 (there is a logjam at 8 with Connors, Lendl, Agassi). Roddick will probably be his biggest rival in that he is most likely to end up the 2nd most number of slams (5 or 6).

Yea, the Nazi regime started with a great tennis player too. No one remembers Hilter being the most dominant tennis player of his day because it was before the open era. :eek:

First he captivated the peoples hearts with his wonderful vollies...then boom...just like that burning Jews. History repeats itself... :eek:

Saumon
03-21-2005, 08:27 PM
btw safin is hotter than federer IMHO :lick:

Sjengster
03-21-2005, 08:45 PM
Yea, the Nazi regime started with a great tennis player too. No one remembers Hilter being the most dominant tennis player of his day because it was before the open era. :eek:

First he captivated the peoples hearts with his wonderful vollies...then boom...just like that burning Jews. History repeats itself... :eek:

Isn't this violating the Hitler rule on message boards? That spurious crowbarring of Hitler and the Nazis into posts, even if it's clearly humorous as in this case?

BTW Fumigator, you seem to have two separate aspects of Nazi policy mixed up, unless National Socialism flourished in the 16th century and Hitler was simply an ultra-Catholic trying to extirpate Jewish heresy from the German kingdom.

*Actually, now I come to think of it that is what the ovens of Auschwitz and other places were used for, but only to dispose of bodies that had already been killed through gassing.*

Sjengster
03-21-2005, 08:49 PM
On a related side note, does anyone know that when Baron Gottfried von Cramm was playing Fred Perry in the Wimbledon final of 1936 and losing, there was a rain delay and he got an angry call from the Fuhrer urging him to try harder for Germany's sake? Evidently such morale-boosting tactics failed to work, and fortunately von Cramm did not receive the full wrath of the regime back home.

World Beater
03-21-2005, 09:13 PM
I think joachim will be the Richard krajicek of this generation and quite possible has the game to beat any player when he's serving in excellent form . Nadal is another player who is a lefty and can create problems to rogers backhand side .

I'll make a prediction and say Nadal will beat Roger at this years french open .

Krajicek had a much better bh, and also had a pretty good net game. JJ seems to be mentally stronger than krajicek though.

PaulieM
03-21-2005, 09:20 PM
On a related side note, does anyone know that when Baron Gottfried von Cramm was playing Fred Perry in the Wimbledon final of 1936 and losing, there was a rain delay and he got an angry call from the Fuhrer urging him to try harder for Germany's sake? Evidently such morale-boosting tactics failed to work, and fortunately von Cramm did not receive the full wrath of the regime back home.
:lol: i can't for the life of me understand why that phone call didn't do the job :confused:

Fumus
03-21-2005, 09:40 PM
Isn't this violating the Hitler rule on message boards? That spurious crowbarring of Hitler and the Nazis into posts, even if it's clearly humorous as in this case?

BTW Fumigator, you seem to have two separate aspects of Nazi policy mixed up, unless National Socialism flourished in the 16th century and Hitler was simply an ultra-Catholic trying to extirpate Jewish heresy from the German kingdom.

*Actually, now I come to think of it that is what the ovens of Auschwitz and other places were used for, but only to dispose of bodies that had already been killed through gassing.*


hey hey...bend your knees a bit more on the serve it might help. ;)

tennischick
03-21-2005, 09:56 PM
March 21, 2005

Federer Shows He's Unrivaled

And so, life moves forward on the tennis tour — the wait for the next great men's rivalry turning from expectation into wishful thinking after Roger Federer of Switzerland defeated Lleyton Hewitt of Australia, 6-2, 6-4, 6-4, in Sunday's final of the Pacific Life Open.

Four words describe the state of affairs: Roger and the dodgers.

That would be Federer and a cast of rivalry dodgers. There had been high hopes for Andy Roddick, but he can't even reach finals against Federer these days. Hewitt now has lost seven consecutive times to Federer, including 12 consecutive sets.

And don't even bring up Marat Safin, the only man to beat Federer in 27 matches in 2005. Federer didn't quite sniff at the notion of Safin as a great possible rival but was pleasantly dismissive.

"I don't quite agree it's only Marat, you know, he's got a chance just because he beat me last time," Federer said of his loss to Safin at the Australian Open in the semifinals in January.

And lest we forget …

"I have a great record [6-2] against him, as well. Don't forget that, please," Federer said, smiling.

It has been an interesting evolution. Mr. Self-Effacing has taken on the slight swagger of a champion. Granted, Federer isn't going to start sounding like Muhammad Ali or run around guaranteeing victories Joe Namath-style.

But, two things: At least he's honest and he's absolutely right.

Federer has won a record 17 consecutive finals, dating to October 2003. Since winning Wimbledon in July, Federer has lost just three times — to Dominik Hrbaty in Cincinnati, Tomas Berdych at the Olympics and Safin.

There was little danger of that happening Sunday as he hit 15 aces and 41 winners in the victory at Indian Wells Tennis Garden. The second-seeded Hewitt was suffering from injured toes, which became a problem midway through the third set of his semifinal match against Roddick. He said the right toe was worse than the left, and the injury could keep him out of the upcoming tournament in Miami.

"It's all inflamed," he said. "Nail is going left, right and center," he said. "It's happened a fair few times in the past, but this is probably as bad as it's been."

Not exactly the way you want to approach a final against the defending champion and top seeded player. Federer immediately sensed something was off.

"I think Lleyton wasn't at his best," he said. "I felt that very clearly, very quickly, as well. I was definitely using that to my advantage. So who knows, if Lleyton would have been better off … it would have been a very different match.

"I have great respect for him, playing all the way through the match, because I really had the feeling he was hurting, and he had to change up his game to actually have a slight chance … and he did. That's a lot of credit to him."

Hewitt paid homage to Federer and his sense of confidence. "He knows when to pull the trigger," he said. "He's sort of playing on autopilot out there. He just has a lot of self-belief … under the big situations at the moment."

The match did feature an epic point. It came 41 minutes into the match, in the third game of the second set. Hewitt won it with a lunging forehand volley into the open court and went sprawling, saving a break point. But that's the Reader's Digest version of the 45-shot point, filled with stunning athleticism.

Many longtime tennis observers called it one of the best points they had seen.

"It was a great point, one of my best in my life," Federer said. "That is fantastic. That it ended up the way it did, it was a winner from his or my racket was great."

Federer recounted the rally, offering a play by play: "It started off normal, just a regular rally, backhand cross-court, a couple of good shots. Crowd got into it. He starts drop-shotting. You're like, 'OK, this is getting interesting.' He gives me the lob. I just run back and I hope I stay in the rally.

"Hit a good lob. He gets an unbelievable angle on his, kind of an overhead. This is when you really know, 'This is my chance to win the point.' It starts all over again. You have to run back.

"I really got surprised the way I got the second one back, [my] back towards the net. I really knew on the last forehand on the run, 'This is my last chance because I'm not coming back after this forehand.' It was a 50-50 chance for him, and he took the right side. I hit it well. He could have missed it."

Said Hewitt: "I remember we both should have won it a few times. The lobs didn't quite go over his head far enough. He kept always getting a swing on his forehand."

The crowd of 14,247 gave them about a minute-long standing ovation. Hewitt was asked the last time that had happened.

"Maybe after you win a Davis Cup," he said. "Davis Cup final or something, in five sets. That's about it. Not normally after a point. Especially when neither of you are from America either."

Hewitt had the best, and most appropriate line, about the point and the day, saying: "Yeah, at least I won something."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/tennis

PaulieM
03-21-2005, 10:05 PM
oh tc :hug: nice article. i have to spread it around some more before i rep you again, you've been making my day a lot today. :)

tennischick
03-22-2005, 05:31 AM
de nada mi amiga ;)