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Roddick on Fire: Ousts Moya 6-7, 6-4, 6-1

azinna
03-19-2005, 05:01 AM
Best I've seen the boy play. Period.

He was focused, (gasp) varied in his attack, continually positive and (second gasp) actually mature in his handling of points lost/stolen.

Moya played well. But he persisted in the very puzzling tactic of running around the backhand, only to hit high-medium paced forehands into Andy's forehand corner? :confused:.....Moya needed to truly work Andy's backhand over and over (he should watch Agassi tapes), and then go into the forehand corner, hard, every so often.

And during the last two sets Moya's shots hardly approached the lines. If he wasn't going to go for it pace-wise, then he needed to make it difficult for Roddick to spank that forehand. The Spaniard played well, but not to win against an on-form Roddick.

CassL
03-19-2005, 05:02 AM
Yep, he was really good. But still, he'll get his ass kicked by Hewitt and if not, Fed.

henree
03-19-2005, 05:06 AM
WTF happened to Moya in that 3rd set, he just crumbled. I think Moya is officialy over the hill. Can't see him being a factor in the slams at this point. :sad:

star
03-19-2005, 05:09 AM
Well, nearly everyone gets their ass kicked by Federer. :)

I don't think it's a given that Hewitt will win this match. Roddick looked good in his last two matches.

undomiele
03-19-2005, 05:10 AM
You crashed and burned Carlos. Crashed and burned. :fiery: I hate quitters. You really could have fought a little more hon. sigh. And you were doing so well too. Where's your head at??

tangerine_dream
03-19-2005, 05:12 AM
Boy, it sure doesn't take long for the haters to show up with their bitter venom. :)

Andy! :woohoo: Another three sets with Carlos, another win. Well done. :bigclap: He's looking like his old self out there: confident and in control. We like to see that. :yeah: Please continue.

So that's two dragons he's slayed this week: Gonzales (Olympics loss) and Moya (DC loss). Now comes the big Aussie dragon. :eek: Andy simply must keep his head on straight this time and not let bad calls or whatever unnerve him. He can beat Lleyton. Has done it before. Anyhoo...

The turning point, I think, came in the first set when Andy got hooked on a bad call and lost the TB because of it. Normally when Andy gets a bad call like that he goes absolutely berserk and chews the ump out throughout the entire match, the changeovers, and even as he's leaving the court, whether he wins the match or not.

He didn't do that this time. For once he actually put the bad call behind him, let the anger go and stayed focused on winning the next two sets. This is excellent improvement for him and very bad news for his opponents. :worship:

Lord Carlos was very good in first two sets (*sprinkles the fairy dust*) then kind of melted as Andy got into the zone in the third. A typical Roddick/Moya match, I guess.

Well done again, Andy. Keep your head on straight, stay aggressive, and you will win again. :banana:

Daniel
03-19-2005, 05:13 AM
Fuck*** Duck beat Carlitos :fiery: :fiery:

robinhood
03-19-2005, 05:14 AM
Nice win for Roddick. It should be a big confidence booster for him, coming back from a set down. It will be super interesting tomorrow to see how he matches up against Hewitt! Can't wait.

ftd999
03-19-2005, 05:19 AM
:eek:

Best I've seen the boy play. Period.

He was focused, (gasp) varied in his attack, continually positive and (second gasp) actually mature in his play.

Moya played well. But he persisted in the very puzzling tactic of running around the backhand, only to hit high-medium paced forehands into Andy's forehand corner? :confused:.....Moya needed to truly work Andy's backhand over and over (he should watch Agassi tapes), and then go into the forehand corner, hard, once every 7-9 times.

And during the last two sets Moya's shots hardly approached the lines. If he wasn't going to go for it oace-wise, then he needed to make it difficult for Roddick to spank that forehand. The Spaniard played well, but not to win against an on-form Roddick.

Yes, this was about as good as I've seen Roddick play. He really should have won in straights as he was up a break in the first and 4-1 in the tiebreak. I thought Moya looked weary the entire match. Not that he played bad, he kept the ball in play and made Roddick beat him, but he just looked tired to me. Roddick's play was a very high level, and everything was working for him. Not much else to say. If he plays like this tommorow, I think he'll take out Hewitt.

Iheartandy&roger
03-19-2005, 05:21 AM
W2G Andy!

oneandonlyhsn
03-19-2005, 05:23 AM
Bye Carloser, I dont understand why he still is in the top ten. His play has been going downhill for a while now. Good job Andy, tough test tomorrow for both Hewitt and Andy. Hewitt is serving teribbly in this tournament, and if he does the same tomorrow he will be spanked by Andy if not then Hewitt may do some spanking. Either way it should be an interesting match.

MisterQ
03-19-2005, 05:25 AM
Roddick was impressive today. Great movement and footwork, some smart defense, unusually crisp volleys, approach shots that stayed low, solid backhand, great forehand passing shots. Lots of power, but it was under control. He successfully played an all-court game today. :yeah:

Yonge
03-19-2005, 05:29 AM
:yeah: Andy! That's how you do it. Now if only you could beat the potato.....:help:

Daniel
03-19-2005, 05:29 AM
Bye Carloser, I dont understand why he still is in the top ten. His play has been going downhill for a while now. Good job Andy, tough test tomorrow for both Hewitt and Andy. Hewitt is serving teribbly in this tournament, and if he does the same tomorrow he will be spanked by Andy if not then Hewitt may do some spanking. Either way it should be an interesting match.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

darnyelb
03-19-2005, 05:29 AM
Roddick was freakin' awesome. So proud of the duck.

Winston's Human
03-19-2005, 05:36 AM
Most important, Andy kept his temper under control!

Has he learned that losing his temper does not help him? That is the real question.

World Beater
03-19-2005, 06:03 AM
Roddick played like this against bjorkman in DC. One notable thing, was his decision making was much better...He wasnt rushing the net as in previous matches

World Beater
03-19-2005, 06:04 AM
Moya has just earned worst backhand in top 10. Roddick has far and away surpassed him.

Fedex
03-19-2005, 06:13 AM
Good for him, but unlike Moya, Hewitt wont crumble in a 3rd set(should the match go the distance), so this hardly prepares him for the likes of Hewitt. Its a shame, but I'm starting to think Moya is over the hill now.(As well as Agassi).

Fumus
03-19-2005, 06:19 AM
Best I've seen the boy play. Period.

He was focused, (gasp) varied in his attack, continually positive and (second gasp) actually mature in his handling of points lost/stolen.

Moya played well. But he persisted in the very puzzling tactic of running around the backhand, only to hit high-medium paced forehands into Andy's forehand corner? :confused:.....Moya needed to truly work Andy's backhand over and over (he should watch Agassi tapes), and then go into the forehand corner, hard, every so often.

And during the last two sets Moya's shots hardly approached the lines. If he wasn't going to go for it pace-wise, then he needed to make it difficult for Roddick to spank that forehand. The Spaniard played well, but not to win against an on-form Roddick.

AND GOD SAID LET THERE BE A BACKHAND DOWN THE LINE AND IT WAS GOOD....

Actually there were several factors at work in this match. First Moya running around his backhand and engaging Roddick in cross-court battles. This was a ploy to bait Roddick into going DTL with the bh. GWH and I discussed that it is known that Andy doesn't ever go DTL with the bh and he will go cross court with it til' his death. At first Moya had success with this tactic but Andy quickly caught on to this ploy and countered nicely...pretty nifty tactics from a "stupid meathead power player" eh? Why Moya didn't change tactics after that first set Idk.

Number 2, Moya tried to pull the "Ivan DC net trick" but Roddick was prepared this time. Instead of sliceing his approaches cross-court to his waiting opponent, Andy went DTL. This totally caught Moya off guard because he was expecting Andy to not have learned anything from his last match.

The last and final factor to victory was Andy Roddick playing the best match, I have ever seen him play. It was the most complete, balanced, well-tempered match with winners galore and unforced far and few between. Well Brad looks like Dean is doing just fine at making those changes eh?

Roddick still needs to get his 1st serves in better during the tbs, and convert bps better. Other than that everything is clicking for him. Tough match against Lleyton tomorrow...GOOD LUCK ANDY!! If you go into the final looking like this, Fed might have to actually play for a change.

tangerine_dream
03-19-2005, 06:19 AM
Most important, Andy kept his temper under control!

Has he learned that losing his temper does not help him? That is the real question.

It's hard to tell. Sometimes it seems he's learned his lesson but then suddenly he goes bonkers over another bad call and the same vicious cycle starts all over again. :(

That's why I cringed when I saw that he got hooked on that TB call and then lost the set. I thought for sure he'd go nuts like he did during the Verdasco match and then go on to lose the match. :o But when I saw that he kept his cool and put it behind him and focused on winning the next set, I knew he'd conquer his demons (for today) and would stay in the zone. And he plays his best when he's like this. :yeah: WHY can't he learn to do this more often? :scratch: The results speak for themselves :banghead:

Fedex
03-19-2005, 06:26 AM
Fed might have some else besides Safin to worry about.
Yes, he does have someone else to worry about at the moment and thatis Canas,and Canas only.

World Beater
03-19-2005, 06:30 AM
fed takes roddick seriously. Dont make it seem like its a cakewalk...yes fed has the upperhand...but he had to dig deep in wimby

Fumus
03-19-2005, 06:31 AM
Yes, he does have someone else to worry about at the moment and thatis Canas,and Canas only.


worring about how many games he wants to spot him. :o

ftd999
03-19-2005, 06:32 AM
AND GOD SAID LET THERE BE A BACKHAND DOWN THE LINE AND IT WAS GOOD....


:haha: Hilarious

His backhand has looked pretty good lately, I think. Excellent analysis also, although I thought his serve was very dominant today. Carlos has got to play with about ten times the energy that he did today. He was flat the whole match and wasn't nearly agressive enough with his forehand. I think he got lucky to win the first, as Roddick outplayed him the entire match.

oneandonlyhsn
03-19-2005, 09:00 AM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

What dont you like about my post just curious thats all.
Dont get me wrong I like Moyas style of play but I am sick of seeing him out of tournaments so early or just dismantle at crucial times. If he continues with the results he is getting he will fall out of the top ten. Too many players are looking good enough to break into the top ten he needs to start winning big matches in big tournies.

Neely
03-19-2005, 09:01 AM
And once more Roddick has made it to the QF/SF/F/WIN or whatever in one of the most important tournaments of the world... Congrats Andy! :)

Carlos :sobbing:

Action Jackson
03-19-2005, 09:07 AM
Go you homer.

NYCtennisfan
03-19-2005, 09:48 AM
Roddick used a very effective BH slice throughout and his movement coming into the net was very good. Roddick's forehand in the last two sets was unbelieveable. Moya fighting would not have made much of a difference at all.

Adam Thirnis
03-19-2005, 10:54 AM
If Roddick was so good how come he lost a set to Moya who is hardly setting the world on fire on hardcourt these days? Hell almost anyone can beat the Spaniard away from clay.

We always how hear about how good Roddick is playing in the early rounds of tournaments. Then he gets his arse kicked by Hewitt or Federer. It'll be the same story this weekend.

jasmine(usa)
03-19-2005, 11:08 AM
If Roddick was so good how come he lost a set to Moya who is hardly setting the world on fire on hardcourt these days? Hell almost anyone can beat the Spaniard away from clay.

We always how hear about how good Roddick is playing in the early rounds of tournaments. Then he gets his arse kicked by Hewitt or Federer. It'll be the same story this weekend.Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I remember that same Moya took a set off of Federer in Houston. If Andy is playing his best like a lot of us know he can, he can compete with anyone. It's already been proven that Federer and Hewitt can be beaten with some great tennis.

liptea
03-19-2005, 11:14 AM
WTF happened to Moya in that 3rd set, he just crumbled. I think Moya is officialy over the hill. Can't see him being a factor in the slams at this point. :sad:

:sad: Can we never say this again until Carlos turns 60?

liptea
03-19-2005, 11:33 AM
What dont you like about my post just curious thats all.
Dont get me wrong I like Moyas style of play but I am sick of seeing him out of tournaments so early or just dismantle at crucial times. If he continues with the results he is getting he will fall out of the top ten. Too many players are looking good enough to break into the top ten he needs to start winning big matches in big tournies.

:sad:

STOP WITH THE ANTIMOYA POSTS. YOU ARE ALL DEPRESSING ME AT 7 AM.

Carlos has a good style of play. To reach the QUARTERFINALS OF A MASTERS SERIES, especially after losing in the first round to Labadze last year, isn't bad for a player in his late 20's. Carlos's play has been a bit substandard lately, but at least this result (QUARTERFINALS. THIS IS A QUARTERFINAL MATCH.) proves that he can still play well to reach the latter stages of larger tournaments.

OK, so Carlos's backhand isn't so hot. But...as some of you like to point out, he has only one major shot ( :mad: ), and he still managed to take a set off Federer and Roddick. More than Hewitt or Roddick managed to do. I think the fact that Carlos reached the QUARTERFINALS OF A MASTERS SERIES underscores the fact that he is still a top player. We still haven't reached the clay season, arguably Carlos's best surface, and I think it's a little early to cut him from any list of Slam contenders. For someone his age, at the latter stages of his career, I think that taking a set off a top player, reaching the QUARTERFINALS and exceeding last year's result is something to be
celebrated a bit more.

Seriously, guys, if a player loses in the quarters of a masters series with a set in hand, it's hardly relevent to be sending him to a retirement home.

And he's still hot. :hearts:

Neely
03-19-2005, 11:46 AM
Niti, it's always the same after losses. Especially Moya is often said to be unconsistent and whatever. But I've explained it to people who wondered how Moya keeps his ranking often enough that Carlos still had very solid Grand Slam results and one of the best results in all Masters last season. Despite being injured a month at the beginning of the season and despite not playing for almost two months at the end of the season, he was still top 5 for a very good reason. Unlike others, he just made another TMS Quarterfinal to start the Masters Series. Enough said.

Adam Thirnis
03-19-2005, 12:32 PM
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I remember that same Moya took a set off of Federer in Houston.

That was a dead match. Federer had already won the group.

If Andy is playing his best like a lot of us know he can, he can compete with anyone. It's already been proven that Federer and Hewitt can be beaten with some great tennis.

By Safin but not by Roddick. It's 18 months since Roddick last beat the Swiss and the American's single win in 6 efforts againstr Hewitt came at Queens Club 9 months ago.

Golfnduck
03-19-2005, 02:36 PM
Roddick was freakin' awesome. So proud of the duck.
The duck was awesome. I think it should be a good match against the potato.

Golfnduck
03-19-2005, 02:40 PM
AND GOD SAID LET THERE BE A BACKHAND DOWN THE LINE AND IT WAS GOOD....


LMFAO!!!!! :rolls: :lol:

alexito
03-19-2005, 02:48 PM
congratulationsss aroddd!!!!!!

alfonsojose
03-19-2005, 02:54 PM
The duck bakchand was :eek: yesterday. The best i've ever seen

tangerine_dream
03-19-2005, 03:21 PM
If Roddick was so good how come he lost a set to Moya who is hardly setting the world on fire on hardcourt these days? Hell almost anyone can beat the Spaniard away from clay.

If Moya is so much better than how come Roddick took a set off of a former RG champion, on european clay (his worst surface), during davis cup, in front of a hostile crowd of 27,000 screaming spanish fans? :confused:

Neely
03-19-2005, 03:56 PM
If Moya is so much better than how come Roddick took a set off of a former RG champion, on european clay (his worst surface), during davis cup, in front of a hostile crowd of 27,000 screaming spanish fans? :confused:
Andy took a set off of a maybe future RG champion (Nadal), but not against a former (Moya) ;)

tangerine_dream
03-19-2005, 04:30 PM
Andy took a set off of a maybe future RG champion (Nadal), but not against a former (Moya) ;)

Was it Nadal? :scratch: I thought it was Moya. I can't tell those two apart, they're so joined at the hip. :p

Anyway, my point being: since when was losing a set indicative of how good a player you really are or not (as Adam implied)? Moya's a top player---why shouldn't he take a set off of Andy? After all, Roger has lost sets to lesser players. And he is still JesusFed :bowdown:

It's the bigger picture that counts: Lose the battle but win the war. :)

fangirl
03-19-2005, 04:39 PM
If Roddick was so good how come he lost a set to Moya who is hardly setting the world on fire on hardcourt these days?

Because nobody is perfect, not even Federer who people seem to think is the 19th coming of Jesus. And Moya is an excellent player and had to take a set to keep all the members of the Church of Lord Carlos Happy.

And don't worry Tangy - Moya and Rafa are typical lovers who are pretty much fused at the hip and like doing their hair the same because they are sooooo in looovveee, which can make it difficult to tell them apart ;)

Space Cowgirl
03-19-2005, 06:38 PM
:sad:

STOP WITH THE ANTIMOYA POSTS. YOU ARE ALL DEPRESSING ME AT 7 AM.

Carlos has a good style of play. To reach the QUARTERFINALS OF A MASTERS SERIES, especially after losing in the first round to Labadze last year, isn't bad for a player in his late 20's. Carlos's play has been a bit substandard lately, but at least this result (QUARTERFINALS. THIS IS A QUARTERFINAL MATCH.) proves that he can still play well to reach the latter stages of larger tournaments.

OK, so Carlos's backhand isn't so hot. But...as some of you like to point out, he has only one major shot ( :mad: ), and he still managed to take a set off Federer and Roddick. More than Hewitt or Roddick managed to do. I think the fact that Carlos reached the QUARTERFINALS OF A MASTERS SERIES underscores the fact that he is still a top player. We still haven't reached the clay season, arguably Carlos's best surface, and I think it's a little early to cut him from any list of Slam contenders. For someone his age, at the latter stages of his career, I think that taking a set off a top player, reaching the QUARTERFINALS and exceeding last year's result is something to be
celebrated a bit more.

Seriously, guys, if a player loses in the quarters of a masters series with a set in hand, it's hardly relevent to be sending him to a retirement home.

And he's still hot. :hearts:
Excellent post!! It's not like Moya lost in R2 or something to an unknown :rolleyes: . By putting him down you're not exactly saying much about Roddick's standard of play
FFS :mad:

Lee
03-19-2005, 06:57 PM
The duck bakchand was :eek: yesterday. The best i've ever seen

Of course, compare to Moya ;)

I only watched the match on and off. The first set, both played good and Moya served well and managed to hide the weakness in backhand. After 1st set, Roddick improved while Moya declined.

There's definitely improvement on Roddick rushing to the net. His volley improved although still not as good as Moya but with good timing to rush to the net, Moya could not dictate points from the baseline and forced Roddick running back and forth where he won many points in 1st set. Roddick also managed to force Moya to hit more backhand instead of running around to hit his forehand.

Lee
03-19-2005, 06:58 PM
I think Roddick's new coach helps him a lot in improving his weakness, like his backhand and net playing. So, Federer beware.

Gigan
03-19-2005, 08:05 PM
Congratulations to Andy!


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:wavey: Andre Agassi forever :wavey:

tennisman.
03-19-2005, 08:09 PM
Yes, he does have someone else to worry about at the moment and thatis Canas,and Canas only.


Why he should be worried about Canas?