Davis Cup FINAL: the Draw

11-28-2002, 11:14 AM
Paul Henri Mathieu vs Marat Safin
Sebastien Grosjean vs Yevgeny Kafelnikov

Nicolas Escude/Fabrice Santoro vs Marat Safin/Yevgeny Kafelnikov

Sebastien Grosjean vs Marat Safin
Paul Henri Mathieu vs Yevgeny Kafelnikov

11-28-2002, 11:21 AM
Good that Marat plays 1st tomorrow

Oh well, good luck team Russia

I'm already a complete wreck :(

11-28-2002, 11:24 AM
i wanted Marat to play 1st too :)

24 hours to go ........ its getting nervous for me too

We better win BUT i don't want Zhenya to retire just yet.

11-28-2002, 11:26 AM
Don't you think Zhenia's retirement is somehow similar to Rafter's comeback? :D

I certainly hope so!

The hell, win the Cup and stay on tour, Zhenia :kiss:

11-28-2002, 11:27 AM
Im going nuts. I can't take it anymore. LOL...I just want it to be over and done with so my heart rate can go back to normal. Very upset that I won't be seeing it on tv but then again, thats probably good for me, wouldn't want to be admitted to hospital for heart failiure now would I?!!

GO SAFY & YEV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-28-2002, 12:10 PM
woohhhoo... i will see my faves playing!!! Marat against Mathieu!!! it will rock!! :bounce:
i hope russia wins, but nothing against the french team, only against Escude, i hate him!! argh! GO RUSSIA!!! GO MARAT!! GO ZHENYA!!!
Some pics of the trainnings.
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[img src="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/8e62f490/bc/Anexos/pzrussianpract_s1.jpg?BChRi59ArZNgggn."]
[img src="http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/afp_photo/20021127/sge.tzn31.271102112851.photo00.default-340x384.jpg"]
[img src="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/8e62f490/bc/Anexos/Forget_and_Safin.jpg?BChRi59AK1akNJvE"]
[img src="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/8e62f490/bc/Anexos/Grosjean.jpg?BChRi59AFgxlE3.2"]
[img src="http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/afp_photo/20021126/sge.ttj84.261102170458.photo00.default-384x384.jpg"]

11-28-2002, 12:39 PM
Thank you for posting the draw...I'm happy to know that Marat plays first...less pressure i think
I hope he wins...Go Russia!

What time will be in France when the first match starts?
I think here is -4:00 GMT...I really hope i can be at home to watch it...

Hey MaratSafingirl are you Tata? I'm sure you're...
O que vc tava tentando postar na mensagem anterior Tata?

Dayse Safinette Forever

11-28-2002, 02:28 PM
thanks Egg. i didn't even know that Mathieu was playing for France i've been so out of it! thanks for the info. can't wait to see the tennis!

11-28-2002, 02:41 PM
omg, i wasn't aware Paulo was playing! :o

Good for him! But i hope he can handle the pressure for his first selection ever!

Allez la France! :D

11-28-2002, 02:47 PM
Go France!
pfff I can't see it on tv :fiery:

11-28-2002, 03:16 PM
boy, I can't wait...
The timing of the match is juz right for me, can rush home after work to watch tomorrow :)

Go Russia!


11-28-2002, 03:26 PM
Paul-Henri :D

11-28-2002, 04:02 PM
No offense France, but I want Russia to win so Yevgeny can have a pleasant retirement.:)

11-28-2002, 04:04 PM
Thay put Paul-Henri then... :D
Risky, but a good decision, imo. I thought they wouldnt have the guts to throw an unexperienced player there.
I hope he does well.

But Im all the way with Russia! :D

11-28-2002, 04:11 PM
allez la france! :)

11-28-2002, 04:57 PM
Go MaRaT aNd RuSsIa:D

Chloe le Bopper
11-28-2002, 05:57 PM
Wow, they are playing PH afterall.

I had thought they might play Clement and stick PH in the last day or something.

Good choice, I think.

11-28-2002, 06:50 PM
Go Russia!!!!

11-28-2002, 06:59 PM
Argh, I dunno who to cheer for :sad:

Well sorry Marat, but GO FRANCE I guess!

11-28-2002, 07:20 PM
No Josh, cheer for Russia! Russia has never won DC while France has won it 9 times. Its Russia's turn!


11-28-2002, 07:33 PM
Arnaud is injured,he has tendinitis at his right wrist.

from Arnaud's words "i feel in peace with myself.it's a big disappointment to not play but the choice of Guy is logic.i have a pain in my wrist who doesnt permit me to be at 100%.I said to Guy: as i'm not at 100% i dont have a chance to beat safin or kafelnikov.plus there is Paulo who is in a great shape,so the decision is made"

11-28-2002, 08:05 PM
why Nicolas Escudé is not playing instead Clement??:confused:
is he injured or something?
Paul-Henri is a good player but has not the experience of Nicolas. I think that Nicolas is a better option.
And he also has a good record against Safin.

Nicolas ESCUDE (FRA) v Marat SAFIN (RUS)

2000 Indian Wells Hard (O) 32 Nicolas ESCUDE 6-2 6-0
2000 Canada Hard (O) 16 Marat SAFIN 2-3 Retired
2000 Vienna Hard (I) 32 Nicolas ESCUDE 5-7 6-3 7-6(5)
2001 Canada Hard (O) 64 Nicolas ESCUDE 6-4 5-2 Retired
2002 Paris Open Carpet (I) QF Marat SAFIN 3-6 7-5 3-6

Nicolas ESCUDE (FRA) leads 3 : 2

11-28-2002, 08:09 PM
Nico is playing doubles with Santoro.

11-28-2002, 08:18 PM
I prefer Nicolas over Paul-Henri, basically because the experiencie fact.
but also Paul-Henri know how to beat Marat.

Paul-Henri MATHIEU (FRA) v Marat SAFIN (RUS)

2002 Moscow Carpet (I) SF Paul-Henri MATHIEU 7-6(3) 6-4

Paul-Henri MATHIEU (FRA) leads 1 : 0

Ma. Estefania
11-28-2002, 08:40 PM
[GO RUSSIA! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Chloe le Bopper
11-28-2002, 08:56 PM
Well Clay isn't exactly Nico's best surface, if Im' not mistaken.

So it Clement isn't 100%, I would say that PH made sense with out much argument.

11-28-2002, 09:28 PM
Nicolas's records on clay are not great. So that must be the reason.

11-28-2002, 09:38 PM
Nico will play double,and clay is his worst surface.instead of Paulo,Guy could have called Santoro cos of his fantastic record against Safin,but Santoro must play double and cant be too tired.


11-28-2002, 09:44 PM
GOOD LUCK BOYS! :D :D :D :bounce::bounce::bounce: :D :D :D :bounce::bounce::bounce:


11-29-2002, 01:16 AM
Bingo Rebecca, Dahveed and Lindsay Fan. ;)

The decision seems very well made, imo. Let the boy play and see what he can do. :D

11-29-2002, 01:43 AM
Good luck Russia! :D :)

11-29-2002, 10:40 AM
20 more minutes... and DC Finals kicks off! This is not doing my heart and lungs any good...I'm hyperventilating!

Go Russia, go MARAT!:D

the cat
11-29-2002, 02:17 PM
Udachi Russian Federation! :bounce: Bring the Davis Cup home to Moscow and Sochi for the next year! :)

11-29-2002, 03:08 PM
Definitively Escudé was a better choice than the young Mathieu. The experience is very important beyond the record on any surface when you are playing this kind of matches.
Against Safin he didn't have chances. let's see what happens against Kafelnikov

11-29-2002, 06:14 PM
1-1 YAY!

Seb played great! :D

7-6 6-3 6-0

11-29-2002, 06:16 PM
Escude a better choice???have u ever seen him playing good on clay???if so,when?maybe i dont remember... :eek:

11-29-2002, 06:42 PM
Davis Cup throws everything out the window.
I actually think Nicolas would have been a better choice, but on clay.... Well, Santoro should have played. I mean, he played both singels & doubles in a couple other of France's ties didnt he?

11-29-2002, 06:42 PM
Hmmm, very interesting . . . of course, this just makes me wish I could see the damn tie :rolleyes:


11-29-2002, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Lindsayfan
Escude a better choice???have u ever seen him playing good on clay???if so,when?maybe i dont remember... :eek:
Escudé has not a good record on clay, (Mathieu neither 9-10), but this is Davis Cup, the pressure is different, the atmosphere too, across the tennis history there are many examples of players that shines a lot whenever they are playing the Davis Cup, even when they are not in their best shape. why? maybe because they are representing their country and not only themselves.
Nicolas has a great record playing the Davis, IMO his experience could be a better choice even if the matches are played on clay.
btw Mathieu lost, so the experiment didn't function against Marat. Let's see if he can beat Kafelnikov

Nicolas Escude Davis Cup Appearances:
Record Singles 8-1 Doubles: 2-1

2002 FRA d. CZE 3-2 in FRA, Davis Cup (WG-QF)
Apr 05 - Apr 07
Palais des Sports, Pau, FRA
Surface: Carpet
Singles 2: l. Jiri Novak 6-7(4) 1-6 7-6(5) 5-7

2001 FRA d. AUS 3-2 in AUS, Davis Cup (WG-F)
Nov 30 - Dec 02
Melbourne Park, Melbourne, Victoria, AUS
Surface: Grass
Singles 1: d. Lleyton Hewitt 4-6 6-3 3-6 6-3 6-4
Singles 4: d. Wayne Arthurs 7-6(3) 6-7(5) 6-3 6-3

FRA d. NED 3-2 in NED, Davis Cup (WG-SF)
Sep 21 - Sep 23
Ahoy Sports Palace, Rotterdam, NED
Surface: Carpet
Singles 2: d. Sjeng Schalken 6-7(3) 7-6(4) 4-6 7-6(4) 8-6

FRA d. SUI 3-2 in SUI, Davis Cup (WG-QF)
Apr 06 - Apr 08
Patinoires du Littoral, Neuchatel, SUI
Surface: Carpet
Singles 2: d. Roger Federer 6-4 6-7(1) 6-3 6-4
Singles 4: d. George Bastl 1-6 7-5 6-7(3) 6-4 8-6

2000 FRA d. AUT 5-0 in FRA, Davis Cup (WG-QR)
Jul 21 - Jul 23
Le Liberte, Rennes, France
Surface: Clay
Singles 1: d. Jurgen Melzer 6-2 6-4 6-2
Doubles (w. Delaitre): d. Knowle/Strengberger 6-4 6-3 6-3

BRA d. FRA 4-1 in BRA, Davis Cup (WG-1R)
Feb 04 - Feb 06
Municipal Centre, Florianopolis, Brazil
Surface: Clay
Doubles (w. Pioline): l. Kuerten/Oncins 4-6 4-6 4-6
Singles 3: d. Gustavo Kuerten 6-2 7-6(3)

1998 FRA d. ISR 4-1 in ISR, Davis Cup(WG-QR)
Sep 25 - Sep 27
Canada Stadium, Ramat Hasharon
Surface: Hard
Singles 4: d. Amir Hadad 4-6 6-2 6-1

FRA d. FIN 4-1 in FIN, Davis Cup (Z1-2R)
Apr 03 - Apr 05
Tali Centre, Helsinki, Finland
Surface: Hard
Doubles (w. Raoux): d. Ketola/Lenho 7-5 4-6 7-6(1) 6-2

11-29-2002, 08:36 PM
nope Jorge,Mathieu lost cos Safin was just too good,not cos the experiment didnt function.have u seen the match? :rolleyes:

11-29-2002, 08:39 PM
yes i saw the match, Marat was too good, but Fabrice or Nicolas have more experience playing in this kind of matches.
btw have you seen the record of Nicolas on Davis Cup? :rolleyes:
The victory over Guga on clay at Brasil? :rolleyes:
over Roger Federer in Switzerland?
I just say why not to pick him? why?

he is a best option all the way, but Guy Forget is the captain

11-29-2002, 09:31 PM
So all those ties were played on clay and I did not even noticed? LOOOLLL. Jorge it's not your fault if the DC site is wrong but there are big mistakes in this list, many of the ties were actually played on indoor carpet. :rolleyes:

As for beating Guga, that's good but that was a dead rubber and everybody knows they don't mean much.

Yet I can see your point, selecting Escudé today would have been a huge bet but he is a fantastic Davis Cupper and the fact that he can't win many consecutive matches on clay doesn't mean he can't win one on a given day, especially as indoor clay is a bit different than outdoor clay, slightly easier for serve-and-volleyer.
Besides, he is the only one who took a set from Marat at the recent Paris TMS.

Still, he is the last choice of the team for clay and if Forget had made the choice of risking tiring one of his doubles player by selecting him on Friday, then obviously he would have picked Santoro considering his record against Marat.

11-29-2002, 09:49 PM
ditto Tryphon ;)

11-29-2002, 09:50 PM
well the info about the surfaces is wrong *editing*. I saw the info first at the ITF website (right) and later at the Davis Cup website (wrong).
Still the record of Nicolas is quite good 8-1 and has a victory over Guga at Brasil on clay (even if it was a "dead rubber", Guga playing in Florianopolis in front his people... not easy, not easy.)

well maybe Nicolas could be a surprise the next sunday, who knows? but i don't think so
BTW is Mathieu the best claycourter among Santoro, Escude and himself? his record now is 9 victories and 10 defeats on clay, not at all impressive;)

11-29-2002, 10:13 PM
Mathieu's wins/losses on every surface don't mean too much considering his career really only started seriously at some point this year.

When you think that as an "unknown" (to the non-tennis fans at least) he reached the last 16 at the French Open and then almost beat Agassi, he must not be that bad on clay. :D

I don't totally exclude myself that in case the 5th match Sunday is decisive, Forget could play a banco with Nico, the idea had crossed my mind too.

But today he only mentioned that he is not sure yet if he would have Mathieu or Santoro play Kafel on Sunday if there's a 5th match and added that he'd better concentrate on Saturday first.

I think he'd better trust Mathieu or try Escudé rather than pick Santoro who is usually not too good against Yevgeny. Kafel has not been convincing today but that does not mean he'll be bad on Sunday as well, he has his pride. :o

Forget might also try to pick Fabrice instead of Grosjean against Marat for the 4th match but I think it is very unlikely he'll drop Seb considering how well he played today.

Of course, if the doubles tomorrow lasts 6 hours, maybe it's Mikhail who'll play on Sunday, everything's possible! ;)

11-29-2002, 10:26 PM
It didn't pay off playing Mattheiu this time as Safin had learnt from his mistakes in Moscow - probably he underestimated his opponent then & once he's down the mind comes into play - this time he made sure he took control from the beginning.
But with Grosjean getting the equalizer & anything can happen in the doubles, if he does play again on Sunday vs Kafelnikov he will have that bit of experience behind him, besides, unlike YK he'll have had a day off.
There is also the case that Escude or Santoro can play Sunday instead of P-H, all depends on tomorrow & who's playing 1st on Sun.