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Hitting flat on clay

alfonsojose
03-09-2005, 06:03 PM
Next week i'll play on a small tournament at a local club. Surface : clay :rolleyes: . I hit the ball flat, hard enough to not seeing it back most of the times. On clay its' another story. Should i come to the net more? Everybody says clay is the worst surface to come to the net, but i feel i have to do it more on it. I'm not fitness guy :shrug:
BTW, who was the last RG champion with few or zero topspin on his shots, Yevgeny, Andre?

jole
03-09-2005, 06:07 PM
I'd say try to get into the net when you can, but wait for short balls that you can hit a nice approach on. You might hit a winner with a nice flat shot even on clay, but hopefully even if they get it back you'll be ready for an easy volley.

Kafelnikov in my opinion was the last guy with very little top on his shots, especially his backhand. Agassi can flatten it out nicely, but he often also uses a lot of topspin.

adeegee
03-09-2005, 06:09 PM
I'd say keep to your original gameplan, but make odd ventures to the net. If your hitting hard, a lot of the time your opponent will probably chip the ball back and you should get an easy volley. but if you don't hit a good approach shot you're f*****d coz they've got too much time on the pass....

btw, i think this is the 1st ever serious post i've read by you

Angle Queen
03-09-2005, 06:09 PM
Go with your strength...and definitely, don't be afraid to come to net but be prepared to see some lobs from balls you wouldn't normally expect to come back. And be prepared...if you've got a quick first step...it's gone on clay. Good Luck, AJ. :hug:

AQ

jole
03-09-2005, 06:11 PM
Next week i'll play on a small tournament at a local club. Surface : clay :rolleyes: . I hit the ball flat, hard enough to not seeing it back most of the times. On clay its' another story. Should i come to the net more? Everybody says clay is the worst surface to come to the net, but i feel i have to do it more on it. I'm not fitness guy :shrug:
BTW, who was the last RG champion with few or zero topspin on his shots, Yevgeny, Andre?

Get Al Falla to coach you for the week of the tournament, too. I heard he is not playing much due to the rehab.

alfonsojose
03-09-2005, 06:15 PM
Get Al Falla to coach you for the week of the tournament, too. I heard he is not playing much due to the rehab.
Alejandro was cheering for his mates at DC matches against Brasil. It wasn't enough :sad:

Lee
03-09-2005, 09:12 PM
Good luck with your match, alfonso :smooch:

mandoura
03-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Good luck with your match :wavey:

RonE
03-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Go Alfonso :banana:


Unfortunately I am a clay pigeon myself and have only played on it a select few times.

The best advice I can think of is choose the right moment to come in. Volleying can be effective on clay if it disturbs your opponent's rythm and you do it when they are pushed deep and/or off balance. However if you come too often it becomes predictable and you are basically just a sitting duck (pardon the pun :p ) for the passing shot.

Ultraman
03-09-2005, 09:49 PM
Haven't played much on it myself, but from what I've heard the general thinking is just plan on hitting "a lot" more balls and be sure to seize opportunities when they present themselves.

Mrs. B
03-09-2005, 10:04 PM
Alejandro was cheering for his mates at DC matches against Brasil. It wasn't enough :sad:

shall we get Rainer to cheer for you? :devil:

Good luck, Fonsie!

Action Jackson
03-09-2005, 11:33 PM
Next week i'll play on a small tournament at a local club. Surface : clay :rolleyes: . I hit the ball flat, hard enough to not seeing it back most of the times. On clay its' another story. Should i come to the net more? Everybody says clay is the worst surface to come to the net, but i feel i have to do it more on it. I'm not fitness guy :shrug:
BTW, who was the last RG champion with few or zero topspin on his shots, Yevgeny, Andre?

A tennis question from big Fonsie. This is scary :)

Actually you have to do the best you can with your particular style. Make sure you are ready to be moving from the first point. If you can't move well on clay, then that's a problem.

The only thing I can suggest is play your usual style, but maybe take the pace off the odd shot, try and not to give them too much rhythm. If you hit a good hard shot, and then he hits a high one with no speed, then move forward and make the volley. If you are going to volley make them count.

tennis4you
03-09-2005, 11:37 PM
I love the net at singles, but very tough on clay. Tough to split step and get your footing to go one way or the other. I split step and it just becomes one big slide when I land and I cannot move to one direction or another as quickly as I would like.

alfonsojose
03-10-2005, 12:35 AM
Thanks a lot guys :yeah: let's see what happens

croat123
03-10-2005, 02:58 AM
you always have to stick to your strengths. but, because it's clay and you hit flat, you should try to be patient and develop your points instead of going for winners all of the time

alfonsojose
03-10-2005, 03:22 AM
A tennis question from big Fonsie. This is scary :)

It is :ignore: :lol:

tennischick
03-10-2005, 03:49 AM
alphonso u can't suddenly decide to become a net-rusher overnight! stick to your original game and try your best on the new surface. Rafter stuck to his serve-and-volley game even on clay. he never won RG but he did a far sight better than a whole lot of other people. which is not to say that i think you should morph yourself into a a Rafter-type player overnight. but that you should just stick to your game. you will play more confidently. which might help win you a point or three.

PS: watch Mathieu. someitmes he hits wih topspin but sometimes he flattens out his shots. and he's a very effective dirtballer.

Maxpowers
03-10-2005, 04:12 AM
I had the same problem. I learned how to play tennis on hard courts and naturally hit the ball pretty flat. I've been playing mostly on green clay the past few years because I got shin splints and the clay is easier on my legs.

My advice is to remember to always be prepared for your shots to come back. Also, a lot of clay court players will hit huge lobs and try to get you into a moonball ralley. I don't know your skill level, but if you can move in and take these shots on the rise and try to get your opponent on the defensive. When you get a short enough ball move in behind it and expect that it will come back so you must be ready to hit the volley.

If you can't take them on the rise you should have time to run around your backhand and hit a big inside out forehand that should help you be aggressive.

Another thing is that you should be careful about hitting the ball into the open court when you're at the net, unless you're sure it will be unreturnable. If you have to hit up or hit a defensive volley you're better off going behind your opponent in order to minimize the angle he'll have on you for the passing shot.

superpinkone37
03-10-2005, 04:19 AM
I have never played on clay although I would love to...so obviously I can't really give any advice on this one...I just wanted to say good luck! :hug:

YoursTruly
03-11-2005, 12:04 AM
buena suerte Alfonso!

alfonsojose
03-11-2005, 05:32 PM
buena suerte Alfonso!
muchas gracias :)

ugotlobbed
03-11-2005, 05:38 PM
if u dont have spin on clay...then u gonna get laid....down...as in lose

alfonsojose
03-14-2005, 03:07 AM
I lost 3-6,2-6 :bigcry: The guy soon realized that he couldn't beat from the backcourt so he started to throw me tons of drop shots. I don't slide and my forward movement sucks, so that was it. I got some revenge in doubles. Me and a new tanned, blue-eyed club member :hearts: beat the guy and his brother 6-4,6-0.

My serve worked pretty well on doubles, it seems i am a slow starter. The singles match was at 8:00 A.M. and i was kinda :yawn: Then i was on fire. I used Lindsay's style of serving. I should use it in the singles macthes but i was really slow and .. cold :confused: :scratch: . I guess it's coz i just woke up one hour and a half before :shrug: :retard:

Smankyou
03-14-2005, 03:21 AM
Me and a new tanned, blue-eyed club member
He sounds lovely.

Better luck next time, fonsie.

Action Jackson
03-14-2005, 03:27 AM
fonsie, is a nightowl it seems.

Lee
03-14-2005, 04:56 AM
I lost 3-6,2-6 :bigcry: The guy soon realized that he couldn't beat from the backcourt so he started to throw me tons of drop shots. I don't slide and my forward movement sucks, so that was it. I got some revenge in doubles. Me and a new tanned, blue-eyed club member :hearts: beat the guy and his brother 6-4,6-0.

My serve worked pretty well on doubles, it seems i am a slow starter. The singles match was at 8:00 A.M. and i was kinda :yawn: Then i was on fire. I used Lindsay's style of serving. I should use it in the singles macthes but i was really slow and .. cold :confused: :scratch: . I guess it's coz i just woke up one hour and a half before :shrug: :retard:

:hug: never play tennis at 8 in the morning. :yawn: