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Quarter Finals: Australia vs Argentina, yes it'll be on grass

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 08:33 AM
It looks like Mr Hinds knew something others didn't :)


http://www.smh.com.au/news/Tennis/S...l?oneclick=true

Sydney on alert for Argentina
By Richard Hinds
March 2, 2005


Sydney is likely to host another Davis Cup tie in July if Australia win their first-round meeting with Austria at the International Tennis Centre this week and Argentina beat the Czech Republic in Buenos Aires.

Usually, Davis Cup ties are put out to tender with all states given a chance to bid for the right to host them. However, with Australia certain to again use a grasscourt if they play Argentina, it is believed Tennis Australia will leave the portable grasscourt being used this week in Sydney rather than undertake the costly exercise of moving it elsewhere.

Climate is also a strong consideration. With the second round to be played straight after Wimbledon in July, Sydney is considered a safer bet than the southern capitals for an outdoor grasscourt tie.

Tennis Australia would not confirm the likely venue of a second-round tie. "Our major concern at the moment is winning this tie," a TA spokesman said. "We will worry about the next one after that."

However, with Australia and Argentina strong first-round favourites, Sydney could host a keenly fought second-round match, given the sometimes spiteful events at this year's Australian Open.

Argentina's Juan Ignacio Chela - not selected for his country this week - was fined for spitting in the direction of Lleyton Hewitt. In another match, Hewitt and Argentine David Nalbandian brushed shoulders at a change of ends.

Australia would gain home-ground advantage against Argentina, having last played them in Buenos Aires in the first round in 2002, a 5-0 whitewash for the Argentinians. However, should the Czech Republic cause an upset, the Australians would play their second-round match away from home.

Kristen
03-06-2005, 08:59 AM
"Our major concern at the moment is winning this tie," a TA spokesman said. "We will worry about the next one after that." LMFAO! It's a big ask, to beat the #144 player in the world :scratch: Woe is me...

Argentina's Juan Ignacio Chela - not selected for his country this week - was fined for spitting in the direction of Lleyton Hewitt. In another match, Hewitt and Argentine David Nalbandian brushed shoulders at a change of ends.
I forgot about this stuff. I think I have a similar mind set when it comes to Mr Hewitt! Poor guy, I'm sure it was unprovoked. I'll be there (with bells on) for sure.

Disclaimer: Not condoning anything! Just seeing the lighter side of Lleyton.

Smankyou
03-06-2005, 09:08 AM
it is believed Tennis Australia will leave the portable grasscourt being used this week in Sydney rather than undertake the costly exercise of moving it elsewhere.
Well it cost them $250,000 to get it here in the first place. So yes, leave the damn thing where it is, and let Sydney host the next tie (take that Melbourne :p )

Singles... I'm thinking Nalbandian, Canas... and Coria?

bad gambler
03-06-2005, 09:09 AM
nalbandian and coria if fit probably - but a lot can change between now and July i.e. form and more so for argentinians given the depth of talent to choose from

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 09:11 AM
Nalbandian and Cañas will be the singles.

Smankyou
03-06-2005, 09:16 AM
Seeing as this team is a little bit more injury prone than others, you'd think that they'd be bringing a couple of reserves with them.

Hi Mariano, this is Sydney calling, we want you here in July mate.

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 09:18 AM
No Mariano has a date with the 2nd greatest clay tournament Båstad and won't be playing in Sydney.

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 09:19 AM
They'll take 4 singles players or at worst 3 singles players barring injury it'll be Nalbandian, Cañas and Coria. I mean Gaudio won't be called up and understandably so, but if there are injuries maybe Chela and Calleri would be better choices.

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 09:20 AM
LMFAO! It's a big ask, to beat the #144 player in the world :scratch: Woe is me...

Yes, it was a tough one for sure.

I forgot about this stuff. I think I have a similar mind set when it comes to Mr Hewitt! Poor guy, I'm sure it was unprovoked. I'll be there (with bells on) for sure.

Disclaimer: Not condoning anything! Just seeing the lighter side of Lleyton.

It was good TV.

Smankyou
03-06-2005, 09:26 AM
No Mariano has a date with the 2nd greatest clay tournament Båstad and won't be playing in Sydney.
Well then it's settled. I'm going to Sweden.

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 09:30 AM
Well then it's settled. I'm going to Sweden.

Is that right? I would love Mariano to play here, but somehow I don't see a clay surface being installed.

Smankyou
03-06-2005, 09:38 AM
Who said he had to play. Sitting there is good enough for me. I'm starting to sound like a wanker fan. I'll stop.

The grasscourt wasn't particularly fast during the tie vs Austria. No doubt Fitzy and co. will be on that straight away.

Smankyou
03-06-2005, 10:08 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Tennis/Aussies-set-to-welcome-Argentina-to-grass-court/2005/03/06/1110044250131.html

Aussies set to welcome Argentina to grass court
March 6, 2005 - 6:45PM

Revenge is on the agenda after Australia today set up a potentially spiteful Davis Cup quarter-final against Argentina in July.

Todd Woodbridge and rookie teenager Chris Guccione completed a 5-0 whitewash of Austria with victories in the two dead singles rubbers on the portable grasscourt at the Sydney International Tennis Centre.

With Lleyton Hewitt and Wayne Arthurs enjoying a day off after helping establish an unassailable 3-0 lead in the first-round tie, Woodbridge stepped up to beat Marco Mirnegg 6-3 4-6 7-5 before Guccione debuted with a 6-3 6-4 win over Alexander Peya.

Australia's triumph atoned for a 5-0 humbling at the hands of Austria in Vienna 1989 and confirmed a much-anticipated showdown with Argentina, which will again be contested on grass in Sydney.

If ever there was a country Australia would like to hammer it is Argentina.

Apart from the bad blood between Hewitt and several of the South American contingent at this year's Australian Open, Argentina inflicted a rare 5-0 defeat on an understrength Australia in Buenos Aires in 2002.

Woodbridge, who lost a doubles cliffhanger with Arthurs 10-8 in the fifth set of that first-round claycourt tie, said he couldn't wait for another crack at the Argentines.

He recalls being forced to play the doubles "on probably the wettest claycourt I've played on" and said it was payback time.

"There was torrential rain with no covers on and then we played on it an hour and a half later. And we're going to be throwing that back at them - surface-wise and them coming down here," Woodbridge said.

"They'll be getting everything as much as they dislike as what we got over there."

Australian captain John Fitzgerald was a little more respectful, but admitted "it's a big difference having the home-court advantage".

"But you could never underestimate a team like Argentina. They're probably the second strongest nation in the world in men's tennis now."

Argentina has Guillermo Coria, David Nalbandian, Gaston Gaudio, Guillermo Canas and Juan Ignacio Chela all in the top 25.

Fans will remember Chela spitting towards Hewitt during their fiery third-round clash at the Australian Open and then Nalbandian and Hewitt bumping angrily into each other during a changeover in the quarter-finals.

Nalbandian later bit his tongue and played down the incident, but Canas publicly questioned Hewitt's sportsmanship at Melbourne Park.

There is certain to be no love lost between the two nations when they face off the week after Wimbledon.

Fitzgerald said it was vital Australia had its strongest possible line-up at the ready and was hopeful Mark Philippoussis would be back in the mix, which would relegate Wayne Arthurs to doubles duty only despite his singles heroics in this tie.

"There's four in a team, and what you want ideally is any number of players competing for four spots. That's what's healthy," Fitzgerald said.

"From Mark's point of view, we just hope he can get his body right now and start getting a lot of matches under his belt.

"That would certainly give us an added strength. He's a high-quality player and he likes this surface - and I imagine we'll play on this surface in July, so he brings a lot to the table."

Argentina booked their quarter-final berth by taking a 3-0 lead over the Czech Republic in their first-round tie in Buenos Aires.

The only other nation certain to advance from a weekend of world group fixtures around the globe is the Slovak Republic, which opened up a 3-0 advantage against depleted defending champion Spain.

The Netherlands led Switzerland, which was without world No. 1 Roger Federer, 2-1 overnight. Russia was ahead 2-1 over Chile. Belarus was up 2-1 in Romania. The US and Croatia were locked at 1-1 and France led Sweden 2-1.

AAP

:lol: typical SMH style.

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 10:14 AM
Who said he had to play. Sitting there is good enough for me. I'm starting to sound like a wanker fan. I'll stop.

The grasscourt wasn't particularly fast during the tie vs Austria. No doubt Fitzy and co. will be on that straight away.

True, I think he was at the match in Argentina and Nalbandian did thank Mariano.

Don't worry Fitzy will be making sure this court is as fast as legally possible.

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 10:16 AM
I love it they are trying to build up the heat between them. Nothing wrong with that court in Argentina when they played.

I wonder how short the grass will be, it will be more like a bowling green than a grasscourt.

Jogy
03-06-2005, 10:45 AM
Australia, go and sweep Argentina very clear on the grass! :D

Auscon
03-06-2005, 04:18 PM
well, as long as its not definite on where the tie will be held...

BRING IT TO PERTH!!!

We'd have even better weather for an outdoor match

I would seriously shit my pants if I got the chance to see this matchup in my hometown, and see Lleyton actually having some competition in the singles (only tie I've ever been to was v Morocco in 04)

hablovah19
03-06-2005, 04:20 PM
Vamos Argentina!! :angel:

(miracles do happen! ;) )

*Ljubica*
03-06-2005, 04:25 PM
LOL - this thread has started early :eek: Needless to say - VAMOS ARGENTINA. It will be David, Canas, and probably Calleri and Chela in my opinion.

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 04:27 PM
Yes, it's a bit early, but it was going to be started eventually. I thought I would do it now.

As for the team I hope they are competitive.

Scotso
03-06-2005, 04:30 PM
Aussie Aussie Aussie! Oi oi oi!

Truc
03-06-2005, 06:02 PM
It will be David, Canas, and probably Calleri and Chela in my opinion.
Well, actually, Mancini rather mentioned Nalbandian and Coria as a possible team on gras, even if you don't like the idea ("We have a tough tie ahead, but we have players who certainly can adapt their game to grass, such as Wimbledon finalist Nalbandian, and Coria, who reached an ATP final last year on grass.")

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 06:04 PM
Cañas is a better bet on grass than Coria, but if Coria is fit he'll go to Australia.

undomiele
03-06-2005, 07:36 PM
"Wettest claycourt ever" my ass. That court was fine. :( An RG doubles champ like Woodbridge needs to learn to shut up or suck it up the next time he plays on clay in South America. I was there and that court was fine! :mad:

Action Jackson
03-06-2005, 07:37 PM
"Wettest claycourt ever" my ass. That court was fine. :( An RG doubles champ like Woodbridge needs to learn to shut up or suck it up the next time he plays in South America. There are no freebies in Davis Cup.

Woodbridge has a reputation for being a bit of a crybaby though.

jazz_girl
03-06-2005, 09:20 PM
Vamos Argentina :bounce:

Cervantes
03-06-2005, 09:30 PM
It would be great if Argentina could cause an upset in Australia on grass. It's not entirely out of reach anyway, with Nalbandian easily capable of beating anyone on any surface, although it's hard to see where the other point would have to come from (probably Canas/Coria vs 2nd Aussie).

Truc
03-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Cañas is a better bet on grass than Coria, but if Coria is fit he'll go to Australia.
I do agree. Even as a Coria fan I'm not very comfortable with the idea of him playing on grass for this Davis Cup-tie.
But I didn't mean Canas, I was wondering why Calleri and Chela would be a better choice than Coria for a match on grass.

Via
03-06-2005, 10:34 PM
:D i haven't seen nalbandian and coria in person and it would be very nice to watch some tennis in july, even if it means it will be cold and wet in sydney.... :bounce:

thelma
03-06-2005, 10:36 PM
Go Australia :bounce:

Denaon
03-06-2005, 11:35 PM
:banana: Argentina !!!!!! I believe it is time to this miracle happen, as hablovah19 said ;)

Jim Jones
03-06-2005, 11:37 PM
woodbridge looks like jan-michael vincent

Neely
03-06-2005, 11:42 PM
haha, of course it's on grass if the Aussies select the surface.... THAT would be funny to see Gaudio playing on grass :rolls: :haha:

joking aside, with Nalbandian, Canas, Coria Argentina have good grasscourt players that all did some demage in the last years in grasscourt tournaments!

Argentine girl
03-07-2005, 03:23 AM
If Croatia can beat the US in the US, why Argentina can't beat Australia in Australia.
David will win 2 points and Coria or Canas will win 1 point. Then Argentina will win 3-2.
Happy ending.

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 05:35 AM
haha, of course it's on grass if the Aussies select the surface.... THAT would be funny to see Gaudio playing on grass :rolls: :haha:

joking aside, with Nalbandian, Canas, Coria Argentina have good grasscourt players that all did some demage in the last years in grasscourt tournaments!

Well Gaudio won't be playing and how aren't Australia not going to select grass.

Smankyou
03-07-2005, 07:16 AM
"Wettest claycourt ever" my ass. That court was fine. :( An RG doubles champ like Woodbridge needs to learn to shut up or suck it up the next time he plays on clay in South America. I was there and that court was fine! :mad:
Woodbridge has never been one to hold back. He has an opinion on every matter, it seems.

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 07:17 AM
Woodbridge has never been one to hold back. He has an opinion on every matter, it seems.

Yes, he does and Björkman carried him in that doubles partnership.

Smankyou
03-07-2005, 07:32 AM
I wouldn't go so far as to say "carried". Sure he has a shit serve... but he doesn't have so many titles from being "carried".

Neely
03-07-2005, 07:48 AM
Well Gaudio won't be playing and how aren't Australia not going to select grass.
I didn't expect him to play really... as I said above I used "would" and was referring to "joking" talking about that one line later

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 07:53 AM
I wouldn't go so far as to say "carried". Sure he has a shit serve... but he doesn't have so many titles from being "carried".

He's Toddles and a very sneaky slice backhand helps him as well. Many people forget that he made a semi at Wimbledon and was in the top 30 once in singles. Yes, I know it's strange, then again so is sport.

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 07:54 AM
I didn't expect him to play really... as I said above I used "would" and was referring to "joking" talking about that one line later

Gaudio on grass is as funny as Kiefer's DC record.

Though not as funny as Corretja beating Sampras from 2 sets down on grass.

Smankyou
03-07-2005, 08:11 AM
Todd Reid is 'Toddles'. You can't call a grown man 'Toddles'! :)

Neely
03-07-2005, 08:12 AM
Gaudio on grass is as funny as Kiefer's DC record.
sorry, but I don't see too much fun in these numbers, especially when looking at scores from the past

but well, I can smile again looking at the fact that he found a way to return Moodie's serve this weekend when it counted most

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 08:13 AM
I thought Reid was the runt.

Toddles will always be toddles after the crap we gave him on court once. It was deserved and he loves us.

Smankyou
03-07-2005, 08:40 AM
tsk tsk GWH. Giving Toddles a hard time? Don't ask why when he sends a ball flying in your direction at the next tie. ;)

Action Jackson
03-07-2005, 09:53 AM
tsk tsk GWH. Giving Toddles a hard time? Don't ask why when he sends a ball flying in your direction at the next tie. ;)

He deserved it as well.

Well, Neely he won the match this weekend and that's good enough for the moment.