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***** DUBAI TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIP 2005*****

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fightclubber
02-20-2005, 04:14 PM
Since I started Rotterdam thread and we got luck, Im here to start this new step in Rogis 2005 career

site address;
http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com

Silvy

RogiFan88
02-20-2005, 04:25 PM
HOPP, ROGI!! defend your title again!

SUKTUEN
02-20-2005, 04:42 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Roger my King!!!! :rocker: :banana: :banana:

Fight and BEAT Safin!!!!!!! :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

Fergie
02-20-2005, 05:10 PM
Hopp Rogi, defend your title :bigclap:

RonE
02-20-2005, 05:25 PM
I still need to recover from that Rotterdam final before I think about Dubai!

When does he play his first match any ideas? I guess he must really love playing in that region- 2 titles in Dubai and 1 in Qatar.

fightclubber
02-20-2005, 05:26 PM
DUBAI PLAYERS

Roger Federer SUI 1
Marat Safin RUS 4
Andre Agassi USA 8
Tommy Robredo ESP 13
Youzhny Mikhail RUS 15
Pavel Andrei
Hrbaty Dominik SVK 20
Nicolas Kiefer GER 21
Ljubicic Ivan CRO 22
Lopez Feliciano ESP 24
Davydenko Nikolay RUS 26
Younes El Aynaoui MAR 27
Srichaphan Paradorn THA 28
Thomas Johansson SWE 31
Stepanek Radek CZE 34
Soderling Robin SWE 35
Verdasco Fernando ESP 36
Mayer Florian GER 38
Schuettler Rainer GER 41
Beck Karol SVK 43
Tomas Berdych CZE 44
Greg Rusedski GBR 45
Santoro Fabrice FRA 49
Igor Andreev RUS 53

MEN DRAWS ANY ONE HAS THE FINAL LIST? AND WHICH DAY WILL PLAY ROGER? NOT ON MONDAY I THINK....

Federer (1) vs. q
Ferrero (WC) vs. Mayer
El Aynaoui vs. Scheuttler
T.Johannson vs. Youzhny (7)

Agassi (4) vs. Stepanek
Srichaphan vs. Lopez
Hrbaty vs. Bahrouzyan (WC)
Santoro vs. Davydenko (6)

Ljubicic (8) vs. q
q vs. Verdasco
Andreev vs. q
Rusedcki vs. Henamn (3)

Robredo (5) vs. O.Rochus
Berdych vs. Beck
Lee vs. Soderling
Kiefer vs. Safin (2)

RonE
02-20-2005, 05:28 PM
Possibly Ferrero in the second round?? :eek:

SUKTUEN
02-20-2005, 05:34 PM
BEATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Safin!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

*M*
02-20-2005, 05:40 PM
The competition looks like it will be pretty stiff. Please Roger, go for the 3-peat!

Mrs. B
02-20-2005, 05:45 PM
yes, i still need to enjoy his Rotterdam win. but good luck in Dubai.

btw, ellechim, at Roger's site will be in Dubai, so if anyone wants to send her messages for a red envelope there... ;)

yanchr
02-20-2005, 05:46 PM
Go Rogi :banana:

As long as he doesn't lose to Safin, any result will do for me

Surely defending his title to make it 3 in a row will be awesome :banana:

lsy
02-20-2005, 05:49 PM
yes, i still need to enjoy his Rotterdam win. but good luck in Dubai.

btw, ellechim, at Roger's site will be in Dubai, so if anyone wants to send her messages for a red envelope there... ;)

Again? What to write again? :scratch:

oh yeah..."Rogi, please get rid of that ugly blue shoes"

SUKTUEN
02-20-2005, 05:50 PM
:devil: FIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT :devil: :devil:

rwn
02-20-2005, 06:26 PM
Go Roger :D

RonE
02-20-2005, 06:53 PM
yes, i still need to enjoy his Rotterdam win. but good luck in Dubai.

btw, ellechim, at Roger's site will be in Dubai, so if anyone wants to send her messages for a red envelope there... ;)

Now that you mention it, please send him this from me:

Roger- GROW BACK THE PONYTAIL!!!!!!

Blanco y Negro
02-20-2005, 07:07 PM
Way to go Roger. Keep it up!!

lina_seta
02-20-2005, 07:12 PM
oh!!! dubai!!! cant wait!!! a possible Marat-Roger match!!!
GOOD LUCK.. roger defend ur honor... this is the rematch!! show him who's the boss heheh

fightclubber
02-20-2005, 08:49 PM
So roger will play on tueday!
heres on livescores matches for tomorrow

Usa time i think

silvy

DubaiMen's Singles February 21 10:00D. Hrbaty O. Bahrouzyan 10:00T. Robredo O.Rochus 11:30J. C. Ferrero F. Mayer 11:30V. Voltchkov F. Verdasco 15:00A. Agassi R. Stepanek 15:00T. Berdych K. Beck 16:30Y. El Aynaoui R. Schuettler

Raquel
02-20-2005, 11:25 PM
Good luck Roger :yeah:

Keep the winning run going :D

TenHound
02-21-2005, 06:28 AM
It never made any sense to me that Roger would play 2 tournaments in consecutive wks. Now I just read art. in tennisweek.com that he was exhausted today for the Rott. final 'cuz he's played everyday since Wed. Dubai threw out a lot of appearance fee money to draw big names. I expect he'll bow out in very early round, so he can rest up. Does anyone know if he has any points to defend in Dubai?

Dirk
02-21-2005, 06:55 AM
TenHound he is the defending champ so he has about 300 entry points to defend. I agree with your post. I don't think Roger has enough juice to make the weekend. I hope I'm wrong and he ends up winning the thing because I want him to make history this week in Dubai. I think the 04 season is catching up to him. He didn't have much of an off season sadly. The two weeks before Rotterdam was not enough. Not expecting too much this week but I hope he is ready to go for the spring masters.

eleven
02-21-2005, 07:12 AM
RonE: Roger- GROW BACK THE PONYTAIL!!!!!!

I'm totally agree with you.

Roger, you look more awesome on court with the PONYTAIL, you know?!

But... anyway, as long as you feel good, that's okay...

Please don't think about the record book too much, it will kill you!

Just do you best! We are always there to support you!

Good Luck!!! :angel:

eleven

Daniel
02-21-2005, 09:21 AM
Easy draw for him in Dubai

Go and defend your title Roger :kiss: :worship: :hug:

Rommella
02-21-2005, 10:00 AM
Would Roger have enough in his tank to last another week of gruelling tennis, especially given the depth of the field in Dubai and the fact that he has to defend a lot of points? I sincerely hope so.

He really went through the wringer in his last three matches at Rotterdam. Me-thinks he should go back to his "old ways", i.e. stay at the baseline and come to the net only when he has to finish the point, at least in Dubai.

He served and volleyed a number of times at Rotterdam, which made it an uncharacteristically messy Federer game. Daydenko, Ancic and Ljubicic wiped the court with him a number of times when he made his forays to the net, which at times were too soon. The serve-and-volley may be part of his re-tooling under Tony but seeing him do it at the hectic start of the regular season, and the hit-and-miss-then-miss-again is almost too painful to watch.

With the field at Dubai, and especially with Andre and Marat, he cannot be tweaking as he has been at Rotterdam. He has to be on his A-game, which his work-in-progress serve-and-volley is not. Am sure he will put it together soon but it wouldn't hurt if he temporarily shelves the tweaking for Dubai. If memory serves, he did abandon the s-and-v for the critical hold-games of the 2nd set vs. Ljubicic and for the most part of the 3rd set.

Daniel
02-21-2005, 10:09 AM
i think he should noit have problems until the final, i dont see Ferrero or Agassi beating Roger, but i thikn the 1R match on tuesday might be tough, maybe Roger will be a little bit tired and rusty but he is too good for all of them.

Vamos Roger :smooch:

Puschkin
02-21-2005, 10:15 AM
He really went through the wringer in his last three matches at Rotterdam. Me-thinks he should go back to his "old ways", i.e. stay at the baseline and come to the net only when he has to finish the point, at least in Dubai.


I was thinking the same, do you really have to experiment in a final? But on the medium and long-term, his game will get even more variety and therefore it's necassary to work on it and try to improve even if it doesn't bear fruit immediately. I don't think you can have it both ways, either you go for a change or you don't, because otherwise you never get enough confidence in the new approach, when you will really need it.

For his career development, another title in Dubai might be a minor thing, adding a new dimension to his game is more valuable. So I don't mind if he doesn't win Dubai or even loses earlier.

BTW: I know that many people are looking forward to a Roger/Marat final. My humble personal prediction is that both of them won't make it.

RonE
02-21-2005, 10:19 AM
Agree with you there Puschkin- besides, I would prefer him to save his energy for Indian Wells and Key Biscayne- with all due respect to Dubai and appearance fees the two TMS events are more crucial to him and good results there will reap greater rewards points-wise and rankings wise.

WyveN
02-21-2005, 12:36 PM
Federer loves Dubai so I think he will try very hard to win there, especially as he is 2 time defending champion. He does have DC off unlike most other players so he should be well rested for the TMS swing.

SUKTUEN
02-21-2005, 01:02 PM
I WANT TO WATCH THE MATCH OF ROGER VS SAFIN!!! :devil:

yanchr
02-21-2005, 01:20 PM
But on the medium and long-term, his game will get even more variety and therefore it's necassary to work on it and try to improve even if it doesn't bear fruit immediately. I don't think you can have it both ways, either you go for a change or you don't, because otherwise you never get enough confidence in the new approach, when you will really need it.

For his career development, another title in Dubai might be a minor thing, adding a new dimension to his game is more valuable. So I don't mind if he doesn't win Dubai or even loses earlier.
I totally agree with you there. Trying on new things (well actually not totally new) will surely have some cost. Just give him time and we will see Roger is far-sighted and smart to make this move.

Plus the fact is, Roger still won ;)

SUKTUEN
02-21-2005, 01:27 PM
Is Roger 's baseline play better than AO? :devil:

avocadoe
02-21-2005, 01:33 PM
Well, we'll have to see. Sometimes, a person his age, 23, bounces back fast. I suspect a difficult time for a while, stressful tournaments and matches, but the new stuff will catch up, and the old stuff work as well, and Roger will have pleased himself with development and growth of game. Anyhoo, I hope its okay. Last year he played Indian Wells brilliantly, but then got sick and fell early at Miami. Was it Nadal, or Soderling who beat him in Florida? So he is in Dubai, I hope it goes well for him. I am wondering if there is any way around paying for "live streaming" in Dubai. Would be interested in hearing if anyone purchases it, how it is, and if you can post link that gets others inside it for free. If so we could take turns paying :)

SUKTUEN
02-21-2005, 02:22 PM
Rger will be more power after that champion cup~~ :devil:

fightclubber
02-21-2005, 02:25 PM
Hi

So Juan Carlos Won today so Roger will have to play with him.
I also think he likes Dubai, Will be his 3rd title, so.... I wish him luck.
I also think Roger is practicing lots of things on court, having good resuls and sometimes very equal games with the oponents. I really like the Federer of 2004 but Im so sure most of the changes of his game are in focus for Roland Garros. I trully hope this wont affect his game on grass for Wibledom. Also, do not forget that Roger set a new level last year, and the rest of players BE SURE been working hard, so Roger will have to push harder .
Anyway, he still have 200o extra points than Hewitt... and now is second on the RACE.

1st Safin, M. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Safin,+M)200 2nd Federer, R. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Federer,+R)190 3rd Hewitt, L. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Hewitt,+L)183 4th Roddick, A. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Roddick,+A)147 5th Ljubicic, I. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Ljubicic,+I)120 6th Johansson, J. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Johansson,+J)113 7th Davydenko, N. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Davydenko,+N)86 7th Gaudio, G. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Gaudio,+G)86 7th Nadal, R. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Nadal,+R)86 10th Rochus, O. (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playersearch=Rochus,+O)76

Happy for Rogi.
When will play? Wednesday? WHo said that? Again will play day after day?
Anyway---- Go Roger. Have fun, its the most important.

Silvy

avocadoe
02-21-2005, 02:29 PM
someone said Tuesday Roger will play!

fightclubber
02-21-2005, 02:32 PM
ANY REFERENCE OF IVO MINAR????????????????????

SILVY:rolleyes:

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Player Name
Nation
Second Round
Quarter Finals
Semifinal
Final
Winner
FEDERER, Roger
SUI
MINAR, Ivo
CZE
FERRERO, Juan Carlos
ESP
MAYER, Florian
GER
EL AYNAOUI, Younes
MAR


SCHUETTLER, Rainer
GER
JOHANSSON, Thomas
SWE
YOUZHNY, Mikhail
RUS
AGASSI, Andre
USA
STEPANEK, Radek
CZE
SRICHAPHAN, Paradorn
THA
LOPEZ, Feliciano
ESP
HRBATY, Dominik
SVK
BAHROUZYAN, Omar
UAE
SANTORO, Fabrice
FRA
DAVYDENKO, Nikolay
RUS
LJUBICIC, Ivan
CRO
LISNARD, Jean-Rene
FRA
VOLTCHKOV, Vladimir
BLR
VERDASCO, Fernando
ESP
ANDREEV, Igor
RUS
CHIUDINELLI, Marco
SUI
RUSEDSKI, Greg
GBR
HENMAN, Tim
GBR
ROBREDO, Tommy
ESP
ROCHUS, Olivier
BEL
BERDYCH, Tomas
CZE
BECK, Karol
SVK
LEE, Hyung-Taik
KOR
SODERLING, Robin
SWE
KIEFER, Nicolas
GER
SAFIN, Marat
RUS

Puschkin
02-21-2005, 02:36 PM
http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/

Monday 22nd February, 2005

Center Court Court 1
Starts at 2:00 pm Starts at 2:00 pm

Paradorn SRICHAPHAN (THA) Igor ANDREEV (RUS)
vs vs
Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) Marco CHIUDINELLI (SUI)

NOT BEFORE 5:15 PM Followed by

Thomas JOHANSSON (SWE) Fabrice SANTORO (FRA)
vs vs
Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS) Nikolay DAVYDENKO (RUS)

Court 3
Starting at 7:00 PM Starting at 7:00 PM
Nicolas KIEFER (GER) Martin DAMM (CZE)
Radek STEPANEK (CZE)
vs vs
Marat SAFIN (RUS) Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP)Fernando
VERDASCO (ESP)
followed by followed by
Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR) Hyung-Taik LEE (KOR)
vs vs
Tim HENMAN (GBR) Robin SODERLING (SWE)


He seems to have gotten one more day!! Even if 22 is Tuesday and not Monday ;)

SUKTUEN
02-21-2005, 02:37 PM
I will watch in computer~~ :D

fightclubber
02-21-2005, 02:46 PM
I will watch in computer~~ :D
can you give us the link?

Safin court 3?
Ill be working but not tv I think at least till semis and finals..

silvy

SUKTUEN
02-21-2005, 02:52 PM
I am waiting for the link by my Chinese friends~~ :devil:

If I get it I will post it in here let you know~ :wavey:

Dirk
02-21-2005, 04:34 PM
I think Roger knows what he is doing. He should try to S/V in some of his matches and do it as much as he sees fit. I think chipping and charging into the net off the return or some point during the rallies is a key too. I think of healthy does of Baseline and S/V is great for him. He knows that if his net game isn't working too well then he can just stay at the baseline more for awhile.

Having said that, I will be shocked if he makes it past JC. He just has been playing a lot and physically he needs a good Ninja nap for the spring masters. I want him to be able to win both of them so he needs his energy.

Yoda
02-21-2005, 06:29 PM
I agree with u Dirk, the only way to fine tune S/V tactics is through competitive play, so I don't mind him going Gun Ho to the net in the lesser tournaments to get his chip and charge timing tuned in. So come the Slams he will be more prepared.
Also in the long term S\V done correctly will shorten points, preserve Rogi's energy later into tournaments and hence put less strain on his body....all in all hopefully a long and fruitful career.

If Rogi is to go out....hopefully it will be before the final

asotgod
02-21-2005, 06:52 PM
Dirk, I will be shocked if he does not beat down Ferrero. Roger needs to beat Ferrero and put him in his place for his silly talk. After that, he can withdraw or something. But not before then, lol.

Skyward
02-21-2005, 07:04 PM
Dirk, IRoger needs to beat Ferrero and put him in his place for his silly talk. After that, he can withdraw or something. But not before then, lol.

I've completely missed Ferrero's interviews. What did he say?

avocadoe
02-21-2005, 07:09 PM
I decided to buy the ZCAM for the week..I only have minimal band Interent access and I must it doesn't work for me. It is constantly "buffering". Once in a while I get a classy half minute, saw Shuettler and Younes el Aynoui, briefly, but unless reception improves I condsider it 25 dollars that bit the dust. Darn. I was so hoping it would be good, even great, like that little TV we had last week, or that free elJ station we had a month or so ago. If anyone finds out that station is showing from Doha or Dubai, please let us all know.

lunahielo
02-21-2005, 07:12 PM
Originally posted byasotgod~
Roger needs to beat Ferrero and put him in his place for his silly talk.
What did Ferrero say??? :confused: :confused:

When does Rogi play his first match in Dudai?

RogiFan88
02-21-2005, 10:33 PM
unfortunately Juanqui is in denial -- he's desperate to win... 2 matches in a row right now... pobrecito! bugs me how poorly he's doing and how well some other guys are doing [no names mentioned!]... he needs to be back where he was in 2003... but it will take all yr... bad draw for him... but then most are these days

asotgod
02-21-2005, 11:41 PM
lunahielo, I just got upset that when Ferrero was asked who was better btw Roger and Sampras, in terms of sheer talent, he said he prefers Sampras. I dont like the way Ferrero speaks most times, especially when he loses. Ferrero, as far as I am concerned, has always been used to making 'salty' or jealous statements about the top opponents until he is put in his place. When asked about Roger, he seems some of the times to be trying to diminish Roger. I dont like that. The majority of the matches he won against Roger were before Roger became Roger. Even the last one he won against Roger, he had all of Spain supporting him and still pulled that out in a three setter. Most of the matches Roger pounded him were in straights and clearly. Even when he said he was injured on clay, Roger was already up a set and a break and then he retired. I think he gives too much excuses. I dont doubt he has talent, but I just think he should give credit fully when due. Simple!

lunahielo
02-22-2005, 12:28 AM
Thank you for the answer, asotgod.
I had not heard that.

he won against Roger were before Roger became Roger.
This is the coolest sentence!!I read that somewhere else, too~~~probably in one of your posts.
It just makes me :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

RonE
02-22-2005, 12:31 AM
Yes, before Roger was Roger and back when Juanqui was Juanqui.

lunahielo
02-22-2005, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by RonE~
Yes, before Roger was Roger and back when Juanqui was Juanqui.
Oh, Ron, that is priceless. I love it... :)

eleven
02-22-2005, 12:49 AM
Roger said:...

Australian Tennis
February 2005

Federer can be a handy serve/volleyer, too, but relied on an all-court game to repel the net-rushing Japanese qualifier Takao Suzuki. While he admired Suzuki's daring tactics, Federer believes the serve-and-volley style is as out of date as pigeon post. " It gets more and more difficult," he said. "Players return better, pass better. You're not allowed to miss any easy volleys these days. They cost you quite quickly."

Dirk
02-22-2005, 02:14 AM
Chipping and charging seems to be the way to go along with S/V. That is the only way you can do it and do great. Not just straight S/V unless your Pete. Roger knows what he is talking about and what he is doing.

eleven
02-22-2005, 02:37 AM
Yep, Dirk, No one would know better than Roger about his game.

Roger is still the FULL time coach of Roger Federer, right?!

TenHound
02-22-2005, 04:35 AM
Somebody asked who beat Rog in Miami last yr. He was beaten by the sunstroke he got during the IW final v. Henman - but not being named Williams did not use that as "an excuse" for "losing" to Raffy in 2nd rnd (I think) @Miami.

Somebody else expressed hope for Rog-Marat final this wk. I was too, awhile ago. Now my priorities are Rog resting up for IW - the points he won in Rott. should mostly offset those he loses in Dubai & anyway he has points to lose - getting in shape for 5 setters & & & Marat getting enough points to move into #3. Above all no more semis w/Safin. I don't see that happening before IW, but since Marat played so badly for most of last yr., it should happen afterwards. Anybody up on that situation, by any chance??

Reading the posts reminds me of how utterly spoiled pig rotten we are by Rog's play last yr. Damn he lost a point - that's awful, painful & downright embarrassing. What went wrong. We have to keep reminding ourselves that these are rinky dink tournaments & the proper place to experiment - hard as it is to see him not playing utterly exquisite tennis.

THE BIG PICTURE: No One Has Ever won EVEN One Major in a yr. following winning 3 the previous yr. So, beating say JJ @Wimby & Safin & JJ in NYC are The Impt. Things This Yr - & of course, being #1. Yikes if Safin wins NYC, he'll be #1!! Rivalries are a lot more fun if yr. fave prevails!! (Hope he tossed those new Nike's in favor of last yrs. model so the blister problem goes away.)

Daniel
02-22-2005, 06:18 AM
Good luck vs Minar, :bounce:

fightclubber
02-22-2005, 01:54 PM
Thank you for the answer, asotgod.
I had not heard that.


This is the coolest sentence!!I read that somewhere else, too~~~probably in one of your posts.
It just makes me :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

YES WASNT LJUBICIC that says that he won 3 of the 4 times but it was before roger became roger.....


Silvy

SUKTUEN
02-22-2005, 02:24 PM
Good luck Roger!!!!!!!!!! :clap2: :bigclap:

Although I cannot watch your match!! :mad:

But if you vs Safin~!!! PLEASE BEAT HIM HARDLY!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

fightclubber
02-22-2005, 04:47 PM
Safin- loosing to Kiefer? Wow?? 7-6 and lossing 5-3 the second?
Sill so soon to tell but ...
What time will Rogi play tomorrow
SIlvy

marchen
02-22-2005, 04:51 PM
safin LOST IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fightclubber
02-22-2005, 05:08 PM
safin LOST IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes- Sad I would love to see the revenge of Roger... So strange.. Kiefer is not the best. I like him but...
So Marat KNOWS how to win FEDERER but he still have to find Kiefer's weak side.....:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: . Sorry I like Marat's game... but FEDERER got my heart... SORRY!!!!!!!!!:worship:

Dirk
02-22-2005, 05:10 PM
:rolls: FUCK YOU MARAT!!!!!!!!! Put him in his place.

RogiFan88
02-22-2005, 05:19 PM
"No One Has Ever won EVEN One Major in a yr. following winning 3 the previous yr."

Who else has even won 3 majors in 1 year? Wilander, right? Someone can verify for me.

Kiwi beat Marat once again on outdoor hardcourt.

marchen
02-22-2005, 05:27 PM
yes- Sad I would love to see the revenge of Roger... So strange.. Kiefer is not the best. I like him but...
So Marat KNOWS how to win FEDERER but he still have to find Kiefer's weak side.....:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: . Sorry I like Marat's game... but FEDERER got my heart... SORRY!!!!!!!!!:worship:

And Safin the Great shows his quality :devil: :devil:

but poor roger, he has to wait for at least another month for his revenge.
Roger...be patient, you're always the very best :banana: :banana: :banana:

laselva
02-22-2005, 05:29 PM
What?! Kiwi defeated Marat???!!! :eek:
WOW! You, Kiwi go! Thanks for earning me some V cash! :)

avocadoe
02-22-2005, 05:57 PM
so Safin out in round #1...takes some pressure off Roger, although maybe disappointed, too. I think if Roger has easy matches this week, and could win again, and maybe meet Marat at IW, with Marat not quite as confidant, it might be okay. Also, lol, maybe Marat will say good bye to Peter and hire away Kiefer's coach. Learn the secret one player at a time :) I'm not gloating as I like Marat, but not the way I like Roger!!!!!!

fightclubber
02-22-2005, 06:03 PM
Oh I never bet But I saw the ones I marked in black , the ones I thought will win, on the first list and .. I would be a good winner..
I just bet for the first time...
Guys, Im a bit confused... but Im looking at LIVESCORES and seems ALL the games are played today ,LESS ROGER?? So Roger will be the only one to play tomorrow?
Will he play 2 times the same day?? I cannot find info...

Silvy:rolleyes:

babsi
02-22-2005, 06:16 PM
Roger will play tomorrow - thats all I know - sorry silvy :)
It would´nt be half fair ,if he had to play two matches a day,unlike all the others.

Too bad Roger wasn´t the one to kick Marat out - but then again, to do so would have meant,that he had reached the final - first round out, no points,that´s fine too!

Rogeer hasn´t even played - so better not get too cocky :(



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Here comes the rain again,falling from the stars - drenched in my pain again,becoming who we are (Billie Joe Armstrong)

RonE
02-22-2005, 07:13 PM
Once an OAF always an OAF- remember that people! ;)

RonE
02-22-2005, 07:14 PM
But Suzanne is right- wait and see how Rogi is doing. However if he is still too tired from his Rotterdam win I would rather he lost early here and saved his energy for Indian Wells and Miami which are more important.

RogiFan88
02-22-2005, 08:04 PM
If Rogi loses early here, he will lose a lot of pts... OK if he loses early in Miami, not in I Wells.

Remember, he will put even more pressure on himself this tourney than Rotterdam, where he seemed under pressure to me [and too much imo since he only had QF pts to defend there], so it won't be easy for him to defend Dubai.

Cheering anyway!

jtipson
02-22-2005, 08:39 PM
The schedule here is similar to the one in Rotterdam, which means Roger will have to play on five consecutive days if he is to win. The advantage of a couple of days to get over last week is that he has to play every day, but he shouldn't need to double up.

To be honest though, I'm not sure how far he'll go. Minar showed how good he is on hardcourt before the AO, and he's young, and Roger's not played him before....that sounds like a familiar story to me. Not saying he will have problems, but I'm not going to expect a lot.

BTW If he loses early this week, he doesn't lose any points just yet (Dubai 2004 comes off the week after next) and he would only lose 125 at the most. Get this: the guy is holding so many optional titles (6) that one of them doesn't even count towards his ranking right now! So if he loses early, his 300 from Dubai will be replaced by his 175 in Gstaad.

babsi
02-22-2005, 08:48 PM
OK - now I got it,if I lose my boots;I can still wear my snikers :)



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Here comes the rain again,falling from the stars - drenched in my pain again,becoming who we are (Billie Joe Armstrong)

asotgod
02-22-2005, 09:07 PM
Year, lunahielo, credit Ljubicic and RonE for the statement "before Roger became Roger". I have paid for the copyright though to RonE, lol. Right? Dont know where to find Ljubicic, fightclubber. So, I can't pay him for copyright infringement. Take care, guys. Later!

asotgod
02-22-2005, 09:17 PM
Roger doesn't really have much to play for. But if I were him and I know I cannot play well because of fatigue, I will just pull out before my match, rather than losing and giving credit when you know you were not up to playing. He doesn't have to play to the weekend. If he beats Ivo Minar and Ferrero and feels he is tired, then don't play. He doesn't have to soil his records because he promised to play. Look at Roddick and even Hewitt. Sometimes they were tired. Roddick said he was injured after beating Ginepri and did not play. That does not count as a loss. Likewise, Hewitt who had played all Australian summer and was tired as well. Roger doesn't have anything to prove in Dubai. I personally think the reason he probably wants to win Dubai is because he would have I think 150/160 race points from three big optionally tournaments stored in ranking for him should he win Dubai. Most optional tournaments give 35/45 points usually. So, maybe he would have more time to concentrate on the bigger events for the rest of the year as he will need only two very good optional tournaments to get close to a peak in the rankings total for the optional tournament. That's what I think.

rwn
02-22-2005, 09:21 PM
If Rogi loses early here, he will lose a lot of pts... OK if he loses early in Miami, not in I Wells.

Remember, he will put even more pressure on himself this tourney than Rotterdam, where he seemed under pressure to me [and too much imo since he only had QF pts to defend there], so it won't be easy for him to defend Dubai.

Cheering anyway!

I don't agree. He was under more pressure because he had never won Rotterdam (losing a final 7-6 in the 3rd set against Escude) and he wanted to show something after his Australian Open defeat. He already did win Dubai the last 2 years so he can relax a bit more and his Rotterdam title will increase his confidence. He has shown in the past he can defend titles (Halle and Wimbledon for example).

fightclubber
02-22-2005, 09:33 PM
Wednesday 23rd March 2005Center Court Starts at 2:00 pm HRBATY (SVK)

vs

DAVYDENKO (RUS)


Followed by

FEDERER (SUI)

vs
MINAR (CZE)
Followed by

RonE
02-22-2005, 10:10 PM
If Rogi loses early here, he will lose a lot of pts... OK if he loses early in Miami, not in I Wells.

Remember, he will put even more pressure on himself this tourney than Rotterdam, where he seemed under pressure to me [and too much imo since he only had QF pts to defend there], so it won't be easy for him to defend Dubai.

Cheering anyway!

Yes, but as was said if he loses early his 300 points would be replaced by 175 from Gstaad so that would only mean a deficit of 300-175 = 125 points. And if he were fresh enough to defend Indian Wells (500 points!!!) and win Miami (an extra 500 points credit) then his total tally would be 125 points lost from Dubai, none lost none gained from IW and 500 points gained in Miami so that would make it -125 + 0 + 500 = 375 GAINED.

If he were to defend Dubai successfully and screw up IW he would defend Dubai (none lost none gained) lose 500 points in IW. That would already put him at a deficit of -500 points for that run going into Miami which he could salvage by winning Miami and then he would have gained 0 points over the period but not lost any.

So- gain 375 points as opposed to 0. I think I would go with 375 if I were him :)

rwn
02-22-2005, 10:30 PM
Yes, but as was said if he loses early his 300 points would be replaced by 175 from Gstaad so that would only mean a deficit of 300-175 = 125 points. And if he were fresh enough to defend Indian Wells (500 points!!!) and win Miami (an extra 500 points credit) then his total tally would be 125 points lost from Dubai, none lost none gained from IW and 500 points gained in Miami so that would make it -125 + 0 + 500 = 375 GAINED.

If he were to defend Dubai successfully and screw up IW he would defend Dubai (none lost none gained) lose 500 points in IW. That would already put him at a deficit of -500 points for that run going into Miami which he could salvage by winning Miami and then he would have gained 0 points over the period but not lost any.

So- gain 375 points as opposed to 0. I think I would go with 375 if I were him :)

You're right of course. But I'm convinced Roger wants to win every tournament he plays. And he hasn't withdrawn so he will try to win it.
He must be confident he can play well in all 3 tournaments :)
I don't see why he can't. Ljubicic played 14 matches in 3 weeks and he played his best tennis in the final against Roger.

*M*
02-22-2005, 11:02 PM
Wednesday 23rd March 2005Center Court Starts at 2:00 pm HRBATY (SVK)






vs

DAVYDENKO (RUS)


Followed by

FEDERER (SUI)

vs
MINAR (CZE)


Followed by









Did I black out and miss a month? Are you sure you don't mean Wednesday 23rd "Fedruary" 2005? (sorry, couldn't resist!) :)

RogiNie
02-23-2005, 12:29 AM
Did I black out and miss a month? Are you sure you don't mean Wednesday 23rd "Fedruary" 2005? (sorry, couldn't resist!) :)

:lol:
well seen!
love Fedruary :D

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 12:35 AM
nnis at New Heights in Dubai


© Getty Images
http://www.atptennis.com/shared/photos/180X250/dubai_helipad.jpg Dubai, UAE: World No. 1 Roger Federer and former No. 1 Andre Agassi took tennis to new heights on Tuesday, ascending nearly 700 feet (over 320 meters) to play a friendly match on the helipad at the luxurious Burj Al Arab hotel in Dubai. “This was an absolutely amazing experience,” Agassi said. “When you first get over how high you are and start playing it's an absolute joy and it was a great time. I had no issues with the height as long as I didn't have to bungee jump off the side.”

The hotel's grass helipad, which is situated 692 feet (211 meters) high covers a surface area of 1,361 square feet (415 sq meters), was converted into a tennis court for the two players. Standing 1,053 feet (321 meters) high on a man-made island, the majestic Burj Al Arab is one of the most recognizable hotels in the world.

“The view is absolutely amazing here and it was very different when I was asked to do this as I didn't know what to expect,” Federer said. “I have been in Dubai many times and have stayed at Burj Al Arab before, but this was an absolute treat. To play tennis with Andre on top of such an amazing hotel and overlooking the whole of Dubai was absolutely spectacular.”

Both players are in town for the ATP's Dubai Duty Free Men's Open, a USD $1 million International Series Gold event. Federer is the reigning champion of the Dubai Duty Free Men's Open and is making his third appearance in the tournament while Agassi is playing an ATP tournament in the Middle East for the first time.

Photo Gallery (http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/gallery)

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 12:38 AM
SAFIN KIEFER--- FROM ATP SITE... BY THE WAY I JUST COPIED WHAT DUBAI SITE SAID WITHOUT READIGN... SORRY;)

Kiefer: “I didn’t expect to play this good. I’ve been here since last Wednesday having prepared good. The last two days I’ve lost a little bit of my concentration and focus. If I compare today with the last two days I’m happy with the way I’ve played. I was fighting and it’s all about confidence. This win is pretty important for me, I’ve had pretty tough draws the last couple of weeks. I was close but never made it, so I’m happy to win in straight sets today.”
“Marat just won the Australian Open and I was the lucky person to play him. You can be the first one to lose to him [after the Australian Open] or the first to beat him and I’m the first to beat him. I can talk, talk and talk but I have to make my work on the court by making results.”

Safin: “I couldn’t find myself being comfortable on the court today. I was missing a lot and I wasn’t comfortable at all at any moment.”

“He is a tough and tricky player. He doesn’t give you any rhythm at all and it’s very tough to find a game against him.”

RogiFan88
02-23-2005, 02:36 AM
;) Yes, but as was said if he loses early his 300 points would be replaced by 175 from Gstaad so that would only mean a deficit of 300-175 = 125 points. And if he were fresh enough to defend Indian Wells (500 points!!!) and win Miami (an extra 500 points credit) then his total tally would be 125 points lost from Dubai, none lost none gained from IW and 500 points gained in Miami so that would make it -125 + 0 + 500 = 375 GAINED.

If he were to defend Dubai successfully and screw up IW he would defend Dubai (none lost none gained) lose 500 points in IW. That would already put him at a deficit of -500 points for that run going into Miami which he could salvage by winning Miami and then he would have gained 0 points over the period but not lost any.

So- gain 375 points as opposed to 0. I think I would go with 375 if I were him

Thanks, Ron!

Where is it written how many entry ranking pts you earn per tournament/round? I can never figure it out. How do they add them up? The race uses the slams, TMS, best 5 other results to calculate but the entry ranking doesn't do the same, does it? Does beating a higher-ranked player earn you more pts, for example? If there's a ref somewhere on ATP, pls provide the link cos I have so many Qs about this pts biz. Thanks! :) I can never find the link on ATP...

Dirk
02-23-2005, 05:10 AM
Ron stop worrying about this to death. Roger will keep his number one ranking for a long time this year. I just hope he wins Dubai and wins either IW or Miami. He should have enough time to rest up for them if he makes the weekend this week.

federer_roar
02-23-2005, 07:55 AM
Yes, but as was said if he loses early his 300 points would be replaced by 175 from Gstaad so that would only mean a deficit of 300-175 = 125 points. And if he were fresh enough to defend Indian Wells (500 points!!!) and win Miami (an extra 500 points credit) then his total tally would be 125 points lost from Dubai, none lost none gained from IW and 500 points gained in Miami so that would make it -125 + 0 + 500 = 375 GAINED.

If he were to defend Dubai successfully and screw up IW he would defend Dubai (none lost none gained) lose 500 points in IW. That would already put him at a deficit of -500 points for that run going into Miami which he could salvage by winning Miami and then he would have gained 0 points over the period but not lost any.

So- gain 375 points as opposed to 0. I think I would go with 375 if I were him :)

RonE, I agree with you he would gain more if he were to lose Dubai in early rounds and win IW and Miami eventually. But reality isn't like that. We can't draw a line among them and we can never be so sure what will happen in each new tournament. Roger can play poorly in a previous match, or in practice, but play very good in next one. There's no sign. I just hope he won't wear himself off by playing too much. :awww:

Daniel
02-23-2005, 08:28 AM
Good luck Roger :kiss:

SUKTUEN
02-23-2005, 12:11 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Roger!!!!!!!

Fight for your Glory !!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Rommella
02-23-2005, 12:48 PM
Uh-oh. Roger just lost the first set vs. Minar, 7-6, and they're now tied at 2 in the 2nd set.

Roger may be --

1) Mulling losing early in Dubai is best, given that the TMS events in two weeks will be killers
2) Driving on damn near empty, after Rotterdam
3) In a really bored phase -- i.e., "let me see, how deep a hole can I sink myself into and can I dig myself out?" -- and is doing his darn best to amuse himself.

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 12:52 PM
darn...he was up 5-3 in the tb and serving...oh well, I thnk he is mulling it over, lol, too...

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 12:56 PM
up a break in the second...has changed from blue shirt to white...thinking he might win :)

RonE
02-23-2005, 12:56 PM
RonE, I agree with you he would gain more if he were to lose Dubai in early rounds and win IW and Miami eventually. But reality isn't like that. We can't draw a line among them and we can never be so sure what will happen in each new tournament. Roger can play poorly in a previous match, or in practice, but play very good in next one. There's no sign. I just hope he won't wear himself off by playing too much. :awww:

No, of course you cannot predict that it will work out one way or the other. There are too many variables in tennis for that. I was just using those two extreme scenarios to point out that the TMS events have greater importance each than Dubai and if you look at the big picture one would rather do well at them than in Dubai if one was forced to make a choice.

lsy
02-23-2005, 12:59 PM
up a break in the second...has changed from blue shirt to white...thinking he might win :)

:scared: :scared:...when he did that in AO SF...:tape:

I'm rather neutral here really. Will be good if he can win but if he doesn't, he has more time to prepare for IW.

But still not losing in first round Rogi :tape:

RonE
02-23-2005, 01:06 PM
;)

Thanks, Ron!

Where is it written how many entry ranking pts you earn per tournament/round? I can never figure it out. How do they add them up? The race uses the slams, TMS, best 5 other results to calculate but the entry ranking doesn't do the same, does it? Does beating a higher-ranked player earn you more pts, for example? If there's a ref somewhere on ATP, pls provide the link cos I have so many Qs about this pts biz. Thanks! :) I can never find the link on ATP...

Rogifan- beating a higher ranked player does not give you any bonus points- it used to under the old system but not since the new one was implemented in 2000.

Here is the link to the number of race and entry points a player receives in a tournament:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/points.asp#entry

Notice that at the end of the year Entry Points = 5 x Race Points.

Here is a link to a thread I started a while ago about the maximum number of ranking points any given player can hold at one time:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=22166&page=1&pp=15

Hope this helps :wavey:

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:08 PM
The week off would be good, but still, 6-3 in the second, must make him feel better about it...see what Minor has left, and Roger for the third...I wish he'd had a week off, too. Maybe he'll lose IW and win MIami this year. That would leave him okay...Or maybe miracles...off to watch my limping dial up ZCam...not good on dial up, at all!!!

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:09 PM
Oh I just arrive from the dentist and saw on live score that rogi lost first sent and won 2nd? anyone can tell what was wrong and if he is doing ok now???
Silvy

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:09 PM
Yikes...mionor up 0-40 on Roger's opening serve game in 3rd...

RonE
02-23-2005, 01:10 PM
Ron stop worrying about this to death. Roger will keep his number one ranking for a long time this year. I just hope he wins Dubai and wins either IW or Miami. He should have enough time to rest up for them if he makes the weekend this week.

I know Dirk, but I would like the deficit between him and the #2 ranked player as big as possible :)

lsy
02-23-2005, 01:11 PM
Ron, if you work out all these messy ranking points, I fail to see why you struggle with your computer science subjects ;)

ok come on Rogi, just win this match at least :bounce:

Did he just got broken already in the 3rd set? :retard:

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:12 PM
Minar breaks Roger...maybe Roger has decided to rest up..lets see if he breaks right back..he didn't :(

RonE
02-23-2005, 01:13 PM
Ron, if you work out all these messy ranking points, I fail to see why you struggle with your computer science subjects ;)

ok come on Rogi, just win this match at least :bounce:

Did he just got broken already in the 3rd set? :retard:

This is a pice of cake next to some of the things I needed to do for my projects!

Come on, FIGHT ROGER!!!!

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:17 PM
3-1 loosing roge? Whats wrong?
c mon rogi
:wavey:

tschaeggy
02-23-2005, 01:21 PM
anyone watching live?

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:21 PM
Roger changes shirt agin, back to blue...must be hot there, lots of sweating and drinking water...sorry I can't give more detail, my ZCam connction so bad I just get occasional stills..those are nice when they are of Roger :)

tschaeggy
02-23-2005, 01:25 PM
could you post the link of the Zcam connection? thanks

RonE
02-23-2005, 01:26 PM
Rogi breaks back its 3-3!!!

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:26 PM
What? Does he had the red one and put a blue one now?

Im at dubai site livescore and 3-3
c mon rogi you can!
Vamos campeon!:worship: :worship: :worship:

tschaeggy
02-23-2005, 01:28 PM
it's 4:3 now, please, go on rogi!!

lsy
02-23-2005, 01:29 PM
I guess he thought he's still playing on the 700ft high helipad :retard: I saw some clips on that, both he and Andre were playing slow motion tennis like this --> :tennis:

Yes! He broke back...come on win this Rogi and make that Weithelm eat his words :mad:

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:34 PM
Oh I saw the clip on CNN yesterday. Incredible. Andree was fun!
5-3
vamos vamos rogi
you can

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:36 PM
looking like Roger decided to spend another day...up 5-3 in the third and serving at 15-love

tschaeggy
02-23-2005, 01:37 PM
hopp roger!!!!!

RonE
02-23-2005, 01:37 PM
Roger just one more game you can do it!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:37 PM
oh no...15/40...Rogerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

WyveN
02-23-2005, 01:37 PM
Minar broke back. Worthless might make us eat crow yet :lol:

lsy
02-23-2005, 01:38 PM
Rogi :retard:...what's the matter here? Anybody watching this match at all?

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:39 PM
HHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH NO


5-4 IS ROGER SERVING
DO WE HAVE A CHANCE WITHOUT TIE BREAK?

WyveN
02-23-2005, 01:40 PM
Minar is a great talent, I saw him in Sydney. A Gonzalez type of player, Roger probably underestimated him and he is always rusty in the early rounds.

lsy
02-23-2005, 01:41 PM
Minar broke back. Worthless might make us eat crow yet :lol:

:tape: :tape:

Why in the world did he get broken while serving??? :smash:

RonE
02-23-2005, 01:41 PM
Roger :smash: :smash: :smash:

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:42 PM
5-5

CMON ROGER
C OM YOU CAN GET THE 6!
CMOM VA MOS YOU CAN

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:43 PM
6-5

DO WE HAVE CHANCES ROGE BRAKE MINAR?
ANYONE SEEN LIVE? IS ROGER PLAYING BAD?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WyveN
02-23-2005, 01:44 PM
So much crap in the live score thread :lol:

RonE
02-23-2005, 01:44 PM
Rogi come ON!

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:45 PM
Roger looks exhausted and disgusted with himself...he is up 6-5, and 15-0 on Miars serve

lsy
02-23-2005, 01:46 PM
So much crap in the live score thread :lol:

No joke :retard:

COME ON ROGI!!!

WyveN
02-23-2005, 01:48 PM
No joke :retard:


its best to laugh it off ;)

cant wait for the overreaction in the media & MTF if Fed loses this tb :retard:

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:49 PM
6-6

TIE BREAK
ANYONE CAN TALK ABOUT IT? PLEASSSSSSE

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:52 PM
cmon...15/30..tie break...darn...Roger get s first point on his serve...minibreak vanishes 3-2, on serve..4/4...can't stand this...

yanchr
02-23-2005, 01:54 PM
:eek: What's happening there...
Come on Rogi

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 01:55 PM
7-6 WQOOWOWOWOWOOWOWWWWWWW
C NOT BELIVE THIS GUY IS MAKING ME SUFFER A LOT!

lsy
02-23-2005, 01:56 PM
its best to laugh it off ;)

cant wait for the overreaction in the media & MTF if Fed loses this tb :retard:

;) Isn't it wonderful?

Exactly what's going on now???

yanchr
02-23-2005, 01:57 PM
He won the final TB....

My God...Maybe he really has to skip this one like I have thought

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 01:57 PM
I think Roger won it but not 100 percent sure...think I saw 6-4 and now they are leaving...zcam isn't moving...but I think it went Roger's way...faint smile...he did look handsome and alert in closeups during the tb :)

tschaeggy
02-23-2005, 01:58 PM
yupeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, he won it, finally, pheeww

Dirk
02-23-2005, 01:59 PM
Roger will not make it past JC I really think. He needs a major Ninja nap between now and IW. Oh and don't say he is not fit because he really didn't have much of an off season and um well he didn't have hardly any breaks last year due to his winning everything.

lsy
02-23-2005, 01:59 PM
:woohoo: :banana: :woohoo:

But still :smash: Rogi....why got broken while serving for match :retard:

Guess it's a ugly lucky win?

Mrs. B
02-23-2005, 02:02 PM
is this Roger's Year of Playing Dangerously? :lol:

he's giving his fans heart attack!

tschaeggy
02-23-2005, 02:05 PM
is this Roger's Year of Playing Dangerously? :lol:

he's giving his fans heart attack!
lol, that's true, eva, my heard made bum bum, but it was so awfull with this scoreboard :mad:

WyveN
02-23-2005, 02:07 PM
I think he will be better in the second round unless the problem is fatigue. He is never all that confident in opening rounds and Minar can certainly play.

Sophie1030
02-23-2005, 02:08 PM
Well done! Come on! Roger! :bounce:

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 02:08 PM
He did win...looking ahead it looks rough..JCF, Youzny/Shuettler, AA/Lopez/Davydenko..If I was Roger I might develop a viral cold and head to the desert...

lsy
02-23-2005, 02:10 PM
is this Roger's Year of Playing Dangerously? :lol:

he's giving his fans heart attack!

Probably his strategy of showing his quality as Ninja the fighter :retard:

WyveN, glad to hear Minar is a good player, hope it was him playing a good match here.

RonE
02-23-2005, 02:11 PM
Roger! :banana: :banana: :banana:

yanchr
02-23-2005, 02:14 PM
is this Roger's Year of Playing Dangerously? :lol:

he's giving his fans heart attack!
Luckily when I logged on, it's already the 3rd set TB...thankfully...or else, another heart attack within 3 days would be disastrous

He'd better get over JC in the next round and then lose if he is to lose anywhere in the tourney...

Raquel
02-23-2005, 02:16 PM
Well done Roger on getting through. I know it's a cliche but when the going gets tough, the great players come through. He did it on Sunday and he did it again today. I agree with you though Dirk, he could do with a 2-3 week total break as he played so much last year and the effects can linger on.

asotgod
02-23-2005, 02:16 PM
I think he will be better in the second round unless the problem is fatigue. He is never all that confident in opening rounds and Minar can certainly play.

Thanks WyveN for pointing that out. People are making it seem as if when opponents see Roger, they should just crumble and bow. He cannot be at his best all the time. No one ever is. It's all about match-ups. I expect him to beat down Ferrero tomorrow. The road is not that rough with the exception of say Agassi, I think. Good luck to Roger, though.

Puschkin
02-23-2005, 02:30 PM
Roger will not make it past JC I really think.


Before the tourney started, I felt comfortable for JCF, taking a big step foreward on his long and difficult way back to the top. I felt a victory would do him so good and it would not do Roger much harm. Dubai ist not what 2005 is about for Roger.

However, with Marat out and Roger reaching the QF would make him number 1 in the race, I see JCF's chances declining. I feel Roger wants to restore "order", meaning being the frontrunner.

It may be total crap, though, I am the last one not to admit it, as he would never say it publicly and therefore, we'll never know.

lsy
02-23-2005, 02:37 PM
Thanks WyveN for pointing that out. People are making it seem as if when opponents see Roger, they should just crumble and bow. He cannot be at his best all the time. No one ever is. It's all about match-ups.

Exactly. I can only laugh when I read things about Rogi not looking good, not the same like 2004, people figuring out how to play him even though he won vs players such as Davydenko/Ljubiciz/Ancic, who had all previously given him troubles :retard:

The only thing about Rogi to me is still he's too eager to prove he's the best, or paying too much attention to what the media said especially after that AO lost perharps. Not sure, just a guess after reading what he said on that Rotterdam win.

COME ON ROGI...just relax! (yeah, easy for me to say of course)

WyveN
02-23-2005, 02:48 PM
The only thing about Rogi to me is still he's too eager to prove he's the best, or paying too much attention to what the media said especially after that AO lost perharps.

True, cant believe people question Rogers fighting spirit. If anything he is so eager to do well in every match he plays that it might fatigue him for the main events. A lot of past greats really took it easy at minor tournaments and just focused on slams/TMS. Have to admire for Rogers mentality, probably would have been simple to lose that 3rd set being a break down and head home for a few weeks rest.

asotgod
02-23-2005, 03:08 PM
Before the tourney started, I felt comfortable for JCF, taking a big step foreward on his long and difficult way back to the top. I felt a victory would do him so good and it would not do Roger much harm. Dubai ist not what 2005 is about for Roger.

However, with Marat out and Roger reaching the QF would make him number 1 in the race, I see JCF's chances declining. I feel Roger wants to restore "order", meaning being the frontrunner.

It may be total crap, though, I am the last one not to admit it, as he would never say it publicly and therefore, we'll never know.


Puschkin, I beg to differ here please. A victory over Roger should do him good. But, I really want Roger to give him a serious beat down. He always finds it hard to give credit when beaten. So, Roger must beat him. Ferrero can go and get a confidence-lifting victory somewhere else, not against Roger.

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 03:12 PM
I think Rogi can win tomorrow with JCF
Roger is a fighter by nature, and he is in between styles, trying new things to work with old ones. Will take some time... i guess... But we will see the rewards soon. Meanwhile, we will have to suffer and take care of our heart. right?
;)

avocadoe
02-23-2005, 03:17 PM
Roger to win in straights :)

lsy
02-23-2005, 03:18 PM
True, cant believe people question Rogers fighting spirit. If anything he is so eager to do well in every match he plays that it might fatigue him for the main events. A lot of past greats really took it easy at minor tournaments and just focused on slams/TMS. Have to admire for Rogers mentality, probably would have been simple to lose that 3rd set being a break down and head home for a few weeks rest.

yeah, I thought so too. As for Rogi's fighting spirit, anybody after watching that AO SF who can still question he's not a fighter is just :retard:

I'm also a :retard: to actually give Rogi the link of MTF...I hope he doesn't really come and read any of the posts :tape: :tape:

But you make a good point about taking easy at minor tournaments. It's too much not just mentally but also physically go in tournaments after tournaments kept winning. But with rogi right now, it just seems he wants to win in every match he's playing, probably take sometime for him to adjust to it. Did make a sensible choice to skip DC first round though.

I have strong faith for Rogi, coz he takes his career very seriously and is determined...actually I rather hope him to be a bit more relax ;)

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 03:27 PM
I'm also a :retard: to actually give Rogi the link of MTF...I hope he doesn't really come and read any of the posts :tape: :tape:;)
I disagree. I think the level of our discussions, exchange of ideas is a high level... and probably Roger will just read and wont affect him.
:p

lsy
02-23-2005, 03:29 PM
I disagree. I think the level of our discussions, exchange of ideas is a high level... and probably Roger will just read and wont affect him.
:p

I obviously don't mean posts here but in GM ;)

He might vomit blood reading some of those :tape:

rwn
02-23-2005, 03:33 PM
I think some people on MTF are totally overreacting. It's not such a surprise that Roger has a tough first round here. The outdoor conditions in Dubai are totally different than playing indoor. And Roger had only 2 days to adjust to it.
Minar is also someone who has weapons to blow an opponent off the court. He played an excellent tournament in Sydney. He made it difficult for Hewitt in the final.
I think we have to judge Federer's current form in his next match against Ferrero.

SUKTUEN
02-23-2005, 04:07 PM
Roger GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! :bounce:

RogiFan88
02-23-2005, 04:21 PM
Rogi does have probs w players he's never faced before AND R1 matches are always tough, not just for Rogi but for a lot of players, incl. Marat.

Rogi's really being pushed and now he's won 2 tough 3-setters in a row... if he's struggling this early on, I have my doubts about him defending his title here but it may not be a prob, as Ron said somewhere.

AA, Davydenko, Robredo, Ljubicic seem to be playing better than Rogi but what do I know I can't see these matches. Someone will tell me!

SUKTUEN
02-23-2005, 04:42 PM
what was the make? 6-7 , 6-4, 7-6? :confused:

RogiFan88
02-23-2005, 05:37 PM
you mean the score, suktuen? 67(5) 63 76(5) a tough win today!

2 yrs catching up on our Rogi... not surprising

fightclubber
02-23-2005, 05:40 PM
heres the video of rogi and agassi.....

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/02/23/um/m-927169.htm

federer_roar
can you tell us how to save this?
any idea?

11:10 | DEPORTES
Tenis de alto vuelo






Andre Agassi y Roger Federer jugaron un partido de exhibición en el helipuerto de un lujoso hotel de Dubai, a 320 metros de altura.





El número uno del mundo, el suizo Roger Federer, y el veterano estadounidense Andre Agassi, aprovecharon un encuentro amistoso para jugar en un helipuerto, a 320 metros de altura, en el lujoso hotel Burj Ai Arab, de Dubai. "Ha sido una experiencia absolutamente asombrosa. Una vez que has asimilado dónde te encuentras y empiezas a jugar las sensaciones son increíbles. Yo no había tenido vivencias similares en esta situación", reconoció Agassi.

"La vista aquí es asombrosa. No me esperaba algo como esto. He estado en Dubai muchas veces y me he alojado en el hotel anteriormente. Pero esto ha sido algo único. Jugar al tenis con Andre sobre la cima del hotel, viendo debajo a toda la ciudad es absolutamente espectacular", indicó Federer.

El tenista suizo y el estadounidense disputan el torneo de Dubai, que reparte un millón de dólares en premios. Federer, que cumple su tercera presencia en el abierto árabe, es el vigente campeón, mientras Agassi lo disputa por primera vez.



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RonE
02-23-2005, 05:42 PM
Rogifan- I answered you questions regarding the points earlier in the thread.

RogiFan88
02-23-2005, 05:47 PM
Rogifan- beating a higher ranked player does not give you any bonus points- it used to under the old system but not since the new one was implemented in 2000.

Here is the link to the number of race and entry points a player receives in a tournament:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/points.asp#entry

Notice that at the end of the year Entry Points = 5 x Race Points.

Here is a link to a thread I started a while ago about the maximum number of ranking points any given player can hold at one time:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=22166&page=1&pp=15

Hope this helps :wavey:

I FINALLY FOUND THIS!! Thanks, Ron! Puschkin also PMed me about this! I appreciate your help, both of you!

And I agree of course it's better for Rogi to do better at TMSes than smaller tourneys, as well as at slams, goes without saying. I just don't want him losing in the first rd of tourneys, any tourney.

I think Rogi has probs w players he's never played before and Minar got to the Sydney F but lost to Hewitt so he's obviously getting better and playing well. Not a big surprise that Rogi struggled. He himself thought he could lose this match. If only such players w play w abandon vs. other top players like AA, Pandy or Lleyt.

Rogi struggling so early on is not a good sign imo. It only gets tougher altho yes, playing Juanqui is a known quantity and therefore to Rogi's ad... altho they DO have a healthy rivalry, which I like.

Too bad they meet so early.

As long as Rogi manages to get past R2 in small tourneys and past R16 in TMSes and slams and wins the occasional title this year, I'll be happy. He might as well go for NEW titles since defending will be a big challenge.

I believe that 2 yrs of incredible success is finally catching up on him and it's no shock [only to those who wish him ill]. He needs to take care of himself and not overdo it -- look at what happened to both Lleyt and Juanqui! [what I don't understand is, altho Pandy is suffering a little letdown, he manages to stay relatively healthy, without a lot of injuries over the last 2-3 yrs... Marat had his downtime after his brilliant 2000 when he won 7 titles incl USO]

RonE
02-23-2005, 06:21 PM
Just goes to show because of the enormous depth in the game the game is more physically and emotionally demanding than it has ever been so no wonder players today burn out after relatively short periods of time.

But Roger has an advantage that players like Lleyton and Juanqui don't have- he can normally finish matches off without having to be made to work too hard (today was obviously an exception). The amount of energy Lleyton had to invest in 2001-2002 to remain at top spot was far greater than what Roger invested in 2003-2004, because of his style of game and lack of big weapons and therefore had nothing left in the tank after that.

Dirk
02-23-2005, 06:26 PM
Roger just needs some rest after this week. I do hope he can win tomorrow in 2 sets so he can keep saving up his energy for the rest of the week. I just want Roger to be strong in mind and body for the master events.

RogiFan88
02-23-2005, 08:02 PM
Just goes to show because of the enormous depth in the game the game is more physically and emotionally demanding than it has ever been so no wonder players today burn out after relatively short periods of time.

But Roger has an advantage that players like Lleyton and Juanqui don't have- he can normally finish matches off without having to be made to work too hard (today was obviously an exception). The amount of energy Lleyton had to invest in 2001-2002 to remain at top spot was far greater than what Roger invested in 2003-2004, because of his style of game and lack of big weapons and therefore had nothing left in the tank after that.

Couldn't agree more! It's a huge advantage that Rogi is usually very efficient in disposing of his opponents -- so he may have an unfavourable w-l record in 5-setters! That's only because he doesn't need to play them that often, compared to Lleyt, Juanq and Marat, for example. Apart fr the fact that Rogi may need to be able to play the tough 5-setters, esp on clay, why s he let himself get into them in the first place? Players who could have closed out matches in 3 sets [out of 5] but ended up winning OR worse, losing them in 5 must regret it more than their fans! :p I'm thinking about that terrible DC03 SF loss to Lleyt in AUS!! Rogi had match points! NEVER give Lleyt a whiff or he'll take you to the cleaners! Juanqui knows that more than anyone unfortunately... I still sigh over his loss to Lleyt in Shanghai... he could have had a nice TMC trophy by now and s have.

RonE
02-23-2005, 08:14 PM
Yes Lleyton in Shanghai was at his tenacious best (or worst depending which way you look at it). In fact I don't think Juanqui should have beaten him, he shouldn't have PLAYED him altogether- Roger should have beaten him in the semis but didn't :fiery:

But that just goes to show what great fighting abilities Lleyton has.

laselva
02-23-2005, 08:17 PM
So it's Ferrero. Yes, I want too Roger to be well rested for upcoming TMS.
But defeat Ferrero. I don't want him to lose against top player, even ferrero is lanked 98 (?) I consider him top player.
Ferrero is a shy guy who sometimes can sound annoying. But he is honest and I want him to do well, but not against Roger, like someone said before.

Eurosport won't cover this match tomorrow. :mad:

Glad Roger won the third set TB again!! :clap2:

NYCtennisfan
02-23-2005, 08:20 PM
Hi there. I am a first time poster here on MTF and I find this disucssion abut Roger rather interesting. I think Roger is really tired right now, but only right now. He should be ok for IW and Miami. What I was really impressed with about Roger today was how he fought. If he lost, it is really no big deal (even though a lot of people would make it a big deal) since he won last week. You know that Roger, Andre and Marat all got huge appearance fees from the the sheiks. He could've taken the check and gone home. He didn't because he wants to win every match. Above all, this is what will separate him from the others for years to come. He has the talent, but now he is of a mindset that he never wants to lose. All that pressure on him and he is hanging in there quite nicely thank you very much.

RonE
02-23-2005, 08:40 PM
Eurosport won't cover this match tomorrow. :mad:


And you find this surprising? The few times in the year they even bother covering men's tennis why should they bother giving the good matches? :rolleyes:

Hi there. I am a first time poster here on MTF and I find this disucssion abut Roger rather interesting. I think Roger is really tired right now, but only right now. He should be ok for IW and Miami. What I was really impressed with about Roger today was how he fought. If he lost, it is really no big deal (even though a lot of people would make it a big deal) since he won last week. You know that Roger, Andre and Marat all got huge appearance fees from the the sheiks. He could've taken the check and gone home. He didn't because he wants to win every match. Above all, this is what will separate him from the others for years to come. He has the talent, but now he is of a mindset that he never wants to lose. All that pressure on him and he is hanging in there quite nicely thank you very much.

Hi NYCtennisfan, welcome aboard :wavey:

Agree with you 100% that's the great thing about Roger, he is not just there to make the numbers he is there trying to give the best of himself!

RogiFan88
02-23-2005, 09:14 PM
Juanqui is indeed a shy person but he never sounds annoying to me... he's just in denial still... hard to take when you've recently been #1, won a slam and this present situation is too much... he needs to take things one match at a time and not think of anything else... no pression, as he w say! ;)

Tomorrow's R2 match s be interesting actually... up to Rogi.

Fergie
02-23-2005, 11:45 PM
Hopp Rogi, finish with "El Mosquito" in 2 sets :yeah: :bigclap:

lunahielo
02-24-2005, 12:38 AM
Hello, NYCtennisfan~~:wavey:
I agree with your post, too....also with you comment, RonE.

Everything about Roger reminds me of one of my grandmother's favourite sayings.
*The cream always rises to the top*...........And indeed it does.

Daniel
02-24-2005, 05:23 AM
Vamos Roger :D

helloworld40
02-24-2005, 05:47 AM
I think some people on MTF are totally overreacting. It's not such a surprise that Roger has a tough first round here. The outdoor conditions in Dubai are totally different than playing indoor. And Roger had only 2 days to adjust to it.
Minar is also someone who has weapons to blow an opponent off the court. He played an excellent tournament in Sydney. He made it difficult for Hewitt in the final.
I think we have to judge Federer's current form in his next match against Ferrero.

At the same time, Ljubicic blew past his opponent 6-1 6-1 against J-R LIsnard, so unless Ljubicic is better at adjusting to outdoors, I think it has more to do with Federer being tired, underestimating his opponent, Minar being a tough player, and Federer flat out playing subpar.

I don't think excuses should be made for this poor performance from Federer, especially getting broken early in the third set.

Props though for Federer to gut out a win while playing poorly. He has to be admired for caring about lesser events like this and Rotterdam.


Oh by the way, how is playing outdoors so different from indoors as to affect one's tennis game? I'm primarily a watcher of tennis not player, so I don't understand. thanks.

RonE
02-24-2005, 07:27 AM
Oh by the way, how is playing outdoors so different from indoors as to affect one's tennis game? I'm primarily a watcher of tennis not player, so I don't understand. thanks.

First of all indoor carpet is vastly different from outdoor hard- on carpet the ball bounces lower skidding through and very fast. At times faster than grass depending on the speed of the court. Hard is a more balanced neutral surface which gives you more time to set up for your shots.

Add to that the basic difference between outdoors and in. Indoors everything is acclimized, the elements such as wind, rain and sun don't come into effect and they have a significant effect on the speed at which the ball travels and sometimes where it goes.

rwn
02-24-2005, 08:06 AM
At the same time, Ljubicic blew past his opponent 6-1 6-1 against J-R LIsnard, so unless Ljubicic is better at adjusting to outdoors, I think it has more to do with Federer being tired, underestimating his opponent, Minar being a tough player, and Federer flat out playing subpar.

Maybe Federer would have won with the same score if he had played against Lisnard, who knows. This is so difficult to compare. And some players have more difficulty adjusting to different conditions.

I don't think excuses should be made for this poor performance from Federer, especially getting broken early in the third set.


I wasn't making excuses. I simply said there was no reason to worry about Roger's form. It's entirely possible he will play better against Ferrero now he's better adjusted to the courts and the outdoor influences.
He played Kooyong after he won the tournament in Doha. He played a mediocre first match and played much better in the second match. There he also had to adjust to the different courts and those are both outdoor events. The adjustment from Rotterdam to Dubai is even bigger.

Props though for Federer to gut out a win while playing poorly. He has to be admired for caring about lesser events like this and Rotterdam.


Well, that's why I'm a fan of him. He always tries to win even in difficult circumstances :)

Oh by the way, how is playing outdoors so different from indoors as to affect one's tennis game? I'm primarily a watcher of tennis not player, so I don't understand. thanks.

RonE has answered this question. Thanks Ron

NYCtennisfan
02-24-2005, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the welcome and the kind words:)

babsi
02-24-2005, 09:13 AM
Belated wellcome,NYCtennisfan :) :)




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Puschkin
02-24-2005, 09:16 AM
Well, that's why I'm a fan of him. He always tries to win even in difficult circumstances :)


That's also a big element for my enthusiasm for him.

rwn
02-24-2005, 11:07 AM
That's also a big element for my enthusiasm for him.

Hi Puschkin :D I also love him for his beautiful game, but even Roger has to work hard in a lot of his matches. A lot of people forget that.

Whistleway
02-24-2005, 03:06 PM
fightclubber, where is the video of roger and agassi?

Thanks

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 03:57 PM
fightclubber, where is the video of roger and agassi?

Thanks
check here
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/02/23/um/m-927169.htm
lower part
between the words MAS INFORMACION
AND THE PICTURE OF THAT DAY
YOULL SEE THE VIDEO LINK
If you know how to save it... let us know

silvy:wavey:

Fergie
02-24-2005, 04:16 PM
Thanks for the link Silvy :yeah:

RonE
02-24-2005, 04:25 PM
OMG both Andre and Roger have to be off their rockers to play on a court like that! I wouldn't go up there no matter how much moeny I got paid :scared:

SUKTUEN
02-24-2005, 04:37 PM
Yes????? really????????

Roger throw racket?????????? :eek: :eek:

RonE
02-24-2005, 04:46 PM
Yes????? really????????

Roger throw racket?????????? :eek: :eek:

:lol:

No Suktuen, the term "off their rockers" means crazy as in :cuckoo:

What I said was Roger has to be crazy to play on a court so high up.

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 04:55 PM
the game is starting
Im at dubai site
GOOD LUCK ROGE
Silvy;) :worship:

SUKTUEN
02-24-2005, 04:59 PM
:lol:

No Suktuen, the term "off their rockers" means crazy as in :cuckoo:

What I said was Roger has to be crazy to play on a court so high up.

How high was Roger last night????????? :eek: :eek: :eek:

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 05:00 PM
okay, get the break back now ROGER!

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 05:02 PM
jcf 2 roger 0??
How ROGER C MON!

SUKTUEN
02-24-2005, 05:03 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH My GOD!!!!!!! :eek:

GOD PLESAE PLEASE HELP Roger!!!!! Please!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:

SUKTUEN
02-24-2005, 05:04 PM
How is the match? :eek:

Whistleway
02-24-2005, 05:13 PM
silvy, see if this works..

mms://200.42.92.5/tnfile/tn/2005-02-23tenis-lo.wmv

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 05:15 PM
ThanksOk Ill check at home. You have to let me know how to do this? How you know the address!

Roger seems could not break JCF
Vamos Roger
Gotta go to the doctor.. I cannot stand to go this way!!!!!

SIlvy

SUKTUEN
02-24-2005, 05:19 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHH

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD Please Please help!!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 05:58 PM
rog's up a break!!!!

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 05:58 PM
4-2 in the second COME ON ROGER FEDERER

SUKTUEN
02-24-2005, 06:05 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :worship:

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 06:11 PM
Roger wins the second set 6-3!!!!

Seleshfan
02-24-2005, 06:14 PM
Bless your heart Mitalidas. Keep them scores coming!

SUKTUEN
02-24-2005, 06:15 PM
COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN :bounce:

Raquel
02-24-2005, 06:28 PM
2-2 in the 3rd, I am watching it live now. Juan Carlos is playing well but Roger looks very determined. Lots of long rallies. Come on Rogi!

Seleshfan
02-24-2005, 06:33 PM
Thanks Raquel. Please, please, please keep the scores coming. Thanks.

Raquel
02-24-2005, 06:37 PM
4-2 for Ferrero

15-30 on Ferrero's serve

Break back Roger!

Raquel
02-24-2005, 06:37 PM
4-2 for Ferrero

30-30 on Ferrero's serve

Break back Roger!

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 06:38 PM
Roger is down a break in the final set 2-4
i am sorry to bring you this news :(

Raquel
02-24-2005, 06:41 PM
Roger breaks back!

Serving at *3-4.

Really an amazing match - excellent rallies. Come on Roger!

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 06:44 PM
oh i just arrive so first set lost
second win
and 3rd... 3-4?

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 06:47 PM
how is jcf playing?
last time in AO, roger just knocked him off so easy
i had better hopes than what's going on. i hope ROGER WINS
COME ON!!!!

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 06:48 PM
4- 4
breake rogi breake
vamos campeon!

Raquel
02-24-2005, 06:51 PM
how is jcf playing?
last time in AO, roger just knocked him off so easy
i had better hopes than what's going on. i hope ROGER WINS
COME ON!!!!
JCF is playing so well. Really all credit to him - it's an amazing standard of match.

Roger serving to stay in at 4-5 - Come on Roger!

Raquel
02-24-2005, 06:53 PM
5-5 now

Raquel
02-24-2005, 06:56 PM
Ferrero holds for 6-5

Roger serving to stay in again.

Raquel
02-24-2005, 07:07 PM
6-6 in the tiebreak!

Roger's saved one match point

Come on Roger!

Raquel
02-24-2005, 07:08 PM
Roger wins! 6-4, 3-6, 7-6 (8-6) :yeah:

What a drama. Roger saved 2 match points, not one

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 07:10 PM
I LOVE YOU RAQUEL!!!!
best news of the day

man, what is he doing playing with fire: 3 straight matches beginning with the final against ljubicic, then minar, now this. phew----what a roller coaster

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 07:10 PM
wooow thanks on intyertnet still 6-6
tell me was he playying bad? what did you see?
Im wondering who will he face tomorrow
guys telll me? who saw the game! something, need info
:worship:

Raquel
02-24-2005, 07:10 PM
3rd match in a row Roger has won on 3rd set tiebreak - really a classic match. I do like JCF so it's great to see him play so well but from 4-6 down in the 3rd set tiebreak Roger was really calm and played well.

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 07:12 PM
tomorrow he plays youzhny

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 07:12 PM
oh
tomorrow hell play with YOUZHNY, Mikhail
I thnk Roger won him once ? ill check atp!

silvy

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 07:13 PM
5-0 head to head against youzhny :)

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 07:16 PM
face to face


2004
Halle, Grass, R16
Germany
Grass
R16
Federer
2 6 1 6
2003
Halle, Grass, S
Germany
Grass
S
Federer
6 4 6 7 2 6
2003
Munich, Clay, Q
Germany
Clay
Q
Federer
2 6 3 6
2002
Halle, Grass, Q
Germany
Grass
Q
Federer
3 6 4 6
2000
Stockholm, Hard, R32
Sweden
Hard
R32
Federer
7 5 4 6 3 6

yanchr
02-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Roger is such a fighter :worship: But I don't need that any more...

Roger, pls make it easier next time...I want last year back...

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 07:16 PM
it seems that youzhny has generally given him trouble of late

ste
02-24-2005, 07:19 PM
some points longer and I would have been dead in front of the PC :)

this guy is just federomenal!!! he becomes a real fighter but good to know that he wins even after breaks he had to fought back!!!

Congrats my dear Roger!! you deserve this win!! :worship:

love you!!! :hug:

*M*
02-24-2005, 07:19 PM
Thanks for all the updates. Sounded like a great match.

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 07:20 PM
I will say it once more: DAMN ESPN

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 07:26 PM
hey, with this Roger has overtaken Marat for the Indesit #1 position
and will be on top on Monday

yanchr
02-24-2005, 07:29 PM
mitalidas, that's so right :banana: another reason I damn want him to win this match

Sophie1030
02-24-2005, 07:29 PM
Go! Roger! show your best tennis in the next round! :bounce:

RogiFan88
02-24-2005, 07:30 PM
What an AMAZING match! Well done ROGI for fighting even harder than R1!

Kudos to Juanqui for pushing ROGi and playing well... hope you're back on track! Tennis needs you!

RogiFan88
02-24-2005, 07:30 PM
oh yeah, and ROGI, can you pls beat Misha in 2 sets tomorrow? can't take these 3rd-set tbs anymore...

rwn
02-24-2005, 07:32 PM
Well done Roger :worship: :worship:
Incredible fight... again :D
You totally deserve this win :)

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 07:34 PM
Eat that Mr Roger-does-not-fight Wertheim

laselva
02-24-2005, 07:40 PM
OMG, now I am breathing. Third set 5-5, MTF was down. Dubai site didnt open. Me go crazy! Three consecutive third set TB Win! Amazing!!! :worship:
JC Ferrero is back in business! (I hope!)

babsi
02-24-2005, 07:45 PM
Oh God,when will this plain fall off the air?

Roger you showed Wertheim - now cut it off - it´s too much to handle :(

BUT - great fight,Roger - respect :) :) :)




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RonE
02-24-2005, 07:46 PM
oh yeah, and ROGI, can you pls beat Misha in 2 sets tomorrow? can't take these 3rd-set tbs anymore...

I second that!

And yes, Roger knocks Marat off the top stop in the race :banana:

But the year is still young, there is a lot more tennis to be played :)

Puschkin
02-24-2005, 07:46 PM
I am speechless.

Mrs. B
02-24-2005, 08:52 PM
i want another tiebreak tomorrow! :devil:

Well done, Roger! and well done, Juanqui. welcome back!

lsy
02-24-2005, 09:20 PM
:scared: :scared: :eek: :eek:

I'm glad I slept through the whole match...that will surely be toooooo much for me to handle... :o

He saved MP to win??? Wow...

Maybe it's better he just lose the next match and get some rest, it sounds tiring for me to just follow his matches, not to mention for himself, especially mentally. I don't want him to burn out already only at the beginning of the year

RogiFan88
02-24-2005, 09:44 PM
Nope, now that Rogi has beaten Juanqui, he might as well win the whole tournament... why stop now?

RogiFan88
02-24-2005, 09:46 PM
He did? So now #1 in both race and entry...

jtipson
02-24-2005, 09:51 PM
I'm not sure the next matches will be any easier, if the following quote from TennisWeek's report has any truth in it:

"Though he has dominated quarterfinal opponent Youzhny in their head-to-head series, Federer said he expects another tough encounter, stating he has an ongoing bet with a friend that awards him $20 for each third set tiebreak he wins and therefore hopes for yet another chance to win one tomorrow night."

Roger, please have a heart and think of the health of your fans ;)

RogiFan88
02-24-2005, 10:01 PM
think of your own health, rogi... conserve your energy

your bet s also say if i win it in straights, you pay ME $50! ;)

lsy
02-24-2005, 10:02 PM
I'm not sure the next matches will be any easier, if the following quote from TennisWeek's report has any truth in it:

"Though he has dominated quarterfinal opponent Youzhny in their head-to-head series, Federer said he expects another tough encounter, stating he has an ongoing bet with a friend that awards him $20 for each third set tiebreak he wins and therefore hopes for yet another chance to win one tomorrow night."

Roger, please have a heart and think of the health of your fans ;)

:haha:

Good that he's still having some little fun about it. I bet Rogi intiated the bet after reading what Weithlem said about him ;)

From the same article :

http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=12497&bannerregion=

"Federer admitted that the match was a bit too close for comfort.

"He plays good. He should have won the match, I think," Federer said. "He was up a break in the third and he had match points before me, but I am the one standing here as the winner."

:scared: how many time have we heard this lately Rogi???

"Explaining the stoic sense of calm he showed in saving two match points, Federer simply said with a smile: "Smooth outside, panic on the inside,"

:lol:...and your fans are just panic all over

fightclubber
02-24-2005, 10:04 PM
I'm not sure the next matches will be any easier, if the following quote from TennisWeek's report has any truth in it:

"Though he has dominated quarterfinal opponent Youzhny in their head-to-head series, Federer said he expects another tough encounter, stating he has an ongoing bet with a friend that awards him $20 for each third set tiebreak he wins and therefore hopes for yet another chance to win one tomorrow night."

Roger, please have a heart and think of the health of your fans ;)

really? HOW? Does he thinks he is not 100 pecent? If not I do not get it... Rogerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: :sad:

WyveN
02-24-2005, 10:07 PM
Not sure these daily 2.5 hour marathons are very good in the long term but at least he is showing his fighting capabilities.

mitalidas
02-24-2005, 10:22 PM
Federer said he expects another tough encounter, stating he has an ongoing bet with a friend that awards him $20 for each third set tiebreak he wins
what a cheap friend