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The "Still Angry! Still Love Potatos! Still love the Lleyki Double!" Thread


Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:23 PM
Smirnoff Ice :drool: :lick:

The Confrontation thread has been updated. ;)

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:24 PM
:wavey: BBB!

Scotso
08-17-2002, 06:24 PM
Vanilla coke! :D

Mazza
08-17-2002, 06:24 PM
Ellooooo Cilla! :wavey:

How come we always seem to end up bringing alcohol into the converstion?! :o

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:25 PM
Because you're mad drunks. :o :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 06:26 PM
free vanilla coke? Now I am interested LOL!

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 06:27 PM
Hi Cilla!

Mazza
08-17-2002, 06:29 PM
Free Aussie men, free Vanilla Coke, free booze! Yeah! :p But share nicely! I don't want to bw having to chuck auhhll yaaa oouuuaat maaaa puuaaab! Right Cilla! ;) :p

pffft! Mad drunks! :p We are all just lightweights! :o :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:30 PM
Smirnoff Ice :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:30 PM
Gerrrrrraaa ouhhhhhta maaaaahhh pubbbbbbb :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:30 PM
LOL @ the new title of this thread. I just noticed it.

Scotso
08-17-2002, 06:32 PM
I'm bored.

Mazza
08-17-2002, 06:32 PM
Talking of EastEnders..... has Kat snogged Dr Trueman and is Little Mo out yet?! I haven't seen it for yonks but i've read all the tv guides for the plots! :o

Smirnoff Ice!!! After a few of thoes we can move onto just pure Smirnoff! :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
LOL @ the new title of this thread. I just noticed it.

LOL

I think I better don't say that I am not happy LOL

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
I'm bored.

Take a number. :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
LOL @ the new title of this thread. I just noticed it.

Ana is such a goober :o :D

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:34 PM
Smirnoff :drool: :lick: :bounce:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:34 PM
http://www.kansan.com/arch/2002/04/12/images/maltaltTOP.jpg

:lick:

Yep Kat and ol bulgy eyes had their snog fest but I didn't watch either. Yep Mo is out and she maaaaaaaaaaddddd :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
I'm bored.

write to Octagon

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
http://www.kansan.com/arch/2002/04/12/images/maltaltTOP.jpg

:lick:

Yep Kat and ol bulgy eyes had their snog fest but I didn't watch either. Yep Mo is out and she maaaaaaaaaaddddd :p

That on the left is Mike's Hard Lemonade, my other alcoholic beverage of choice. :drool: :lick: :drool:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:36 PM
http://www.fantasyjackpalance.com/fjp/photos/misc/002/bottles-smirnoff.jpg

Lol @ Ingrid!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:37 PM
*grabs bottles and chugs*

Mazza
08-17-2002, 06:38 PM
oooohhh! Mad Mo! haha! Mad Mo with a hoover in the Queen Vic! Be very scared Phil! :p I prefered it if Kat and Ant were a couple! They were sweet! :o :p

*passes Scotty Vanilla Coke* You can't be bored now ;) :D

*Runs off with the bottles of Smirnoff* Yummmmyyyy! :lick:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 06:39 PM
all these bottles, dangerous to me... :lick:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:39 PM
GREG DEF TOMMY 3-6,6-3,6-3 :bounce: Sorry Tommy but woooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhoooooooo :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Mazza
08-17-2002, 06:40 PM
I'm going to have one of these Mike's Hard Lemonade *takes one big gulp* Yuuummmmmyyy! :lick:

We need some Lambrini! :p :p

http://www.nightclub.com/magazine/March02/images/beverage_Lambrini_bottle.jpg

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:41 PM
*still chugging*

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:41 PM
Yeah Kat and boggle eye bill make a gr8 couple! Zoe is so wet and wimpy :o

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:43 PM
Oohhh before I came I was watching Cappy Vs RT Cappy was leading 7-6(5) 4-0 when RT retired with a thigh Injury.

Mazza
08-17-2002, 06:44 PM
TOMMY! :sad: :sad: GREG! :bounce: :bounce:

Jeez! I need a drink! :o *takes bottle of Lambrini!* :o

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 06:45 PM
RT retired? tell me, I am not dreaming! did she?

hehe!!!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 06:46 PM
Yay, RT is hurt. :o :p I hope she can't even play the US Open. :o :p

:wavey: I'm off y'all. Laters! :kiss:

Scotso
08-17-2002, 06:46 PM
Bye Marly! :kiss:

Scotso
08-17-2002, 06:47 PM
I finished my poem to Eric :D





he likes it!!!! :D :D :D :D

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 06:47 PM
Bye Marly!

Mazza
08-17-2002, 06:49 PM
Wayhey! RT's going dooowwwwwnnnnnn!! :bounce:

Cyas Marly! :wavey: I got to dash too! Gotta see Jack! :o And if I don't come back on tonight I'll see you all in a week! :) I'll try and find an internet cafe or something tho!

Take care! :kiss: :wavey:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:50 PM
:wavey: BBB! Yeah RT really looked in pain. LOL @ Ingrid! What is it with u & lambrini Mazz!

Scotso
08-17-2002, 06:51 PM
Have fun Marie! :kiss:

:wavey:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:51 PM
:wavey: Mazz! Have a gr8 time :kiss: and you'd better find an Internet Cafe! ;) :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 06:55 PM
Bodies found in missing girls inquiry

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38202000/jpg/_38202014_pair300.jpg

The couple can be held for 96 hours without charge

Police searching for missing girls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman have found two bodies near Mildenhall in Suffolk.
The grim discovery was made at 1300 BST by three members of the public about seven miles away from where the girls vanished in Soham, Cambridgeshire, on 4 August.

Police believe the bodies are those of the 10-year-olds but they have not been formally identified.

School caretaker, Ian Huntley, 28, and his girlfriend Maxine Carr, 25, were arrested in the early hours of Saturday on suspicion of murdering Holly and Jessica.

Mr Huntley is also being held on suspicion of abducting both girls.

The girls' parents have been informed of the latest developments and family liaison officers are with them.

The bodies were found near a track surrounded by fen and farmland close to RAF Lakenheath airbase.

Two men and a woman out walking made the discovery at a spot known locally as The Carr and immediately contacted Suffolk Police.

A Cambridgeshire Police spokeswoman told BBC News Online: "We are now making urgent inquiries to establish the identities of the two bodies."

Earlier Detective Chief Inspector Andy Hebb said items of "major interest" had been discovered at Soham Village College, where Mr Huntley worked.

He said forensic examinations of these items would take place at the scene.

The couple were arrested at around 0400 BST and taken to separate police stations in Cambridgeshire where they are being interviewed.

Mr Huntley had previously told police he had spoken to the girls on the evening they went missing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38184000/jpg/_38184531_girls150.jpg
Holly and Jessica pictured on the day they went missing

Search continues

Police can hold the pair for up to 72 hours without charge and can apply to magistrates for an extension of a further 24 hours

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38202000/gif/_38202339_soham_brandon_150.gif

Meanwhile searches are continuing at Soham Village College, the girls' primary school St Andrews and Mr Huntley's caretaker's cottage.

It was at the college only hours before that the girls' parents had publicly appealed to any abductors holding their daughters to give them back.

Detectives had already spent almost seven hours questioning Mr Huntley and Ms Carr at separate police stations on Friday.

Mr Huntley, a site manager at the college for the past nine months, and Ms Carr, a former teaching assistant in the girls' class, had voluntarily given witness statements.


The discovery everyone feared
Click here for full story
The pair also agreed for their home, which is in the grounds of the college, to be searched on Friday.

The house was one of the last places Holly and Jessica were seen the day they went missing.

On Saturday, the home and grounds of Mr Huntley's father Kevin, in Littleport, which is about 10 miles from Soham, were also cordoned off to allow police to carry out a search.

Major manhunt

The girls' headteacher broke down in tears as he told how he felt numb when he heard about the arrests.

Geoff Fisher said: "I have been clinging for the last two weeks to the hope that Jessica and Holly would be found alive, clinging to the hope that they would be starting school in September in their final year at St Andrew's".

Soham Methodist minister Alan Ashton said the community were grief-stricken and the girls' parents had been plunged into "an abyss of darkness".

"It is the absolute awful scenario and the emptiness in their homes will be so intense at this moment."

Jessica and Holly's disappearances sparked one of Britain's biggest manhunts, involving more than 400 officers from 21 forces. More than 14,000 calls have been made to police since the case opened 13 days ago.

:sad: :sad:

Scotso
08-17-2002, 06:57 PM
awww :sad:

something like that is happening here too :(

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 07:01 PM
too bad for words

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 07:03 PM
I'm off too! bye!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 07:03 PM
:wavey: Ingrid

Scotso
08-17-2002, 07:04 PM
bye all! :p

:wavey: :kiss:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 08:04 PM
In the :rolleyes: category... something worthy of the :rolleyes: -trophy, would it exist:

Greer blasts Blair's sex life
By Bruce Wilson in London
August 15, 2002

GERMAINE Greer, the feminist icon who makes everything her business, yesterday intervened in the marriage of Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair, apparently urging him to stop sexual relations with his wife, Cherie.

Australian-born Dr Greer was speaking at the Edinburgh Arts Festival when she made her plea.

Her subject was the unequal nature of marriage, and she turned her attention to the ruling Labour Party, its leader and his wife, a prominent QC and part-time judge, who recently suffered a miscarriage while carrying their fifth child.

"Women are bound hand and foot by their notions of what is correct in society," Dr Greer said. "The marriage of our own Prime Minister is a case in point.

"That is a very weird relationship. I want to say to him, 'Leave her alone for Christ's sake. She's 47 years old. She doesn't practise contraception because she is a Catholic. So stay off her!"

Dr Greer, 63, also defended teenage pregnancies.

"I like the idea of young women being mothers. It is easier to get down on the floor with kids if you are a kid yourself," she said.

It was wrong to rage against teenaged mothers "as if they were ram-raiding and creating a vast crime wave".

END

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 08:06 PM
Hi again, Ana!


Have you read the article I posted in "latest articles?"

kevijntje
08-17-2002, 08:16 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:
that's so awful what happened with those girls

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 08:26 PM
Hi y'all! :wavey:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by kevijntje
:sad: :sad: :sad:
that's so awful what happened with those girls

it just leaves you without words to describe the horror

Angele
08-17-2002, 08:29 PM
:wavey:

ikke
08-17-2002, 08:31 PM
Yeah it is terrible!!!
Well in the case off holly and jessica I got sick when I heard the two suspects talking about it 2 days before they were suspected, how terrible they found it for the girls and how sweet they are etc!!! :mad:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 08:49 PM
Yep Julie, that was disgusting too

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:03 PM
:sad: about those girls. They were cute little things.

Originally posted by KaseyL
In the :rolleyes: category... something worthy of the :rolleyes: -trophy, would it exist:

Greer blasts Blair's sex life
By Bruce Wilson in London
August 15, 2002

GERMAINE Greer, the feminist icon who makes everything her business, yesterday intervened in the marriage of Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair, apparently urging him to stop sexual relations with his wife, Cherie.

Australian-born Dr Greer was speaking at the Edinburgh Arts Festival when she made her plea.

Her subject was the unequal nature of marriage, and she turned her attention to the ruling Labour Party, its leader and his wife, a prominent QC and part-time judge, who recently suffered a miscarriage while carrying their fifth child.

"Women are bound hand and foot by their notions of what is correct in society," Dr Greer said. "The marriage of our own Prime Minister is a case in point.

"That is a very weird relationship. I want to say to him, 'Leave her alone for Christ's sake. She's 47 years old. She doesn't practise contraception because she is a Catholic. So stay off her!"

Dr Greer, 63, also defended teenage pregnancies.

"I like the idea of young women being mothers. It is easier to get down on the floor with kids if you are a kid yourself," she said.

It was wrong to rage against teenaged mothers "as if they were ram-raiding and creating a vast crime wave".

END

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

LMAO! That is so ridiculous. :rolleyes: This lady is wayyyyyy backwards.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:09 PM
I'm bored. I'm gonna go find some stupid news too. :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:11 PM
That's... interesting.

Are you guys okay? :eek: hehe.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:11 PM
Well, I don't know if this is exactly stupid news, but it's news news.

Russia, Iraq to Sign $40 Billion Deal

By SARAH KARUSH
.c The Associated Press

MOSCOW (Aug. 17) - Russia and Iraq are preparing to sign a $40 billion economic cooperation plan, the Iraqi ambassador to Moscow said Saturday. The pact was likely to strain Moscow's relations with Washington as the United States considers a military attack against Baghdad.

The five-year agreement envisions new cooperation in the fields of oil, irrigation, agriculture, railroads, other transportation sectors and electrical energy. It will most likely be signed in Baghdad in the beginning of September, Ambassador Abbas Khalaf told The Associated Press.

The announcement came as Washington struggles to rally international support for a possible invasion of Iraq.

Washington is determined to topple Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein - possibly through a military operation - because of the threat posed by his regime's efforts to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Russia, a longtime ally of Iraq, has forcefully warned against a U.S. invasion.

Moscow has also has supported lifting United Nations sanctions imposed after Baghdad's 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Moscow hopes lifting sanctions would allow Baghdad to start paying off its $7 billion Soviet-era debt and help expand trade.

Khalaf emphasized that the new cooperation deal, which is to include new projects as well as the modernization of some Soviet-built infrastructure, would not violate the sanctions. Russia's Foreign Ministry said Saturday it had no comment on the deal.

In the current standoff with the United States, Iraq is counting on Russia to use its leverage in the U.N. Security Council and other diplomatic channels to deprive Washington of international support for a military operation, Khalaf said.

``First of all we need moral, political and diplomatic support. Because Iraq knows how to defend itself,'' Khalaf said.

``The main thing for us is that American aggression does not go through the U.N. Security Council and that America does not receive a U.N. mandate,'' he said. ``Let America act (alone) as an aggressor. It will be condemned from all sides.''

Khalaf dismissed the idea that Russia could yield to U.S. pressure and drop its opposition to an invasion.

``There won't be any concessions,'' he said. ``Iraq is Russia's most dependable partner in the East.''

At the same time, Khalaf said he saw no contradiction between Russia's friendship with Iraq and its ties with Washington, which have strengthened since the Sept. 11 attacks.

``We see friendship among various countries and civilized peoples of the world as a positive step. Any enmity brings harm to a country,'' he said.

The news of the deal with Iraq followed signs that Moscow is maintaining or even increasing its cooperation with Iran and North Korea. Along with Iraq, those two countries make up what President Bush has labeled the ``axis of evil'' because of their efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction.

Last month, Russia announced a 10-year plan for nuclear cooperation with Iran. Under the plan, Russia would build another five reactors in addition to the one currently under construction at Bushehr. Washington fears such cooperation could help Iran develop nuclear weapons.

This week, the Kremlin announced that North Korean leader Kim Jong Il will visit Russia later in August for the second summer in a row.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:14 PM
Bush Releases Sleepover List

By SHARON THEIMER
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (Aug. 17) - President Bush and first lady Laura Bush have invited dozens of friends and relatives to sleep over at the White House, from Republican fund-raisers to Texas pals such as pro golfer Ben Crenshaw and country singer Larry Gatlin.

The issue of White House sleepovers arose during the Clinton administration when it was learned that the Democratic Party was rewarding big donors with overnight stays in the Lincoln Bedroom.

The Bushes' roughly 160 guests include at least six of the president's biggest fund-raisers and their families. White House spokeswoman Anne Womack said she didn't know whether donors, or any other Bush guests, have slept in the Lincoln Bedroom.

``They sleep in a variety of guest rooms in the White House,'' Womack said. ``The president and Mrs. Bush enjoy spending time with their friends and family and have invited friends and family to stay as guests in the White House.''

A half-dozen Bush donors and fund-raisers known as ``pioneers'' are among the guests on a list released late Friday by the White House. Each raised at least $100,000 for Bush's 2000 campaign, helping him take in a record $100 million for the Republican primaries.

They include Roland Betts, a Yale classmate of Bush's and a former partner of his in the Texas Rangers baseball team; venture capitalist and Republican National Committee fund-raiser Brad Freeman; Texas rancher and state Sen. Teel Bivins; Boston businessman Joe O'Donnell; and Joe O'Neill of Midland, Texas, an oilman and childhood friend of Bush credited with introducing him to Laura Bush.

Womack said the fund-raisers are also longtime friends of the Bushes.

Larry Noble, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics, a campaign finance watchdog group, said that whether the Bushes are letting contributors stay in the Lincoln Bedroom ``matters symbolically,'' regardless of whether the donors are also family friends.

``The Republicans made a very big deal about it during the Clinton administration,'' Noble said. ``In this whole business, the whole issue is perception.''

The halting of White House tours for the general public since the Sept. 11 attacks may present a new issue for the Bushes, he said. Only children's groups, veterans and guests of members of Congress are currently allowed on tours.

``The American public's access to the White House has been severely restricted,'' Noble said. ``So you may have an increased perception problem if, in fact, large contributors are getting access to the White House.''

Bush has said he wouldn't use overnight invitations to the White House in any quid pro quo with donors.

``There's something sacred about the Lincoln Bedroom,'' he told The Associated Press in an interview last year.

In contrast to the star-studded guest list Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton compiled - from Barbra Streisand to director Steven Spielberg and actors Jane Fonda and Tom Hanks - no members of the Hollywood elite have stayed overnight in the Bush White House.

But there are some famous names in the crowd, including Crenshaw, a Bush family friend and campaign donor from Austin, Texas; country music performer Gatlin; and Texas musician and author Kinky Friedman. Interior designer Ken Blasingame, who has decorated the Bushes' private quarters in the Texas governor's mansion and the White House and their ranch in Crawford, Texas, has also been a guest.

Several Bush relatives have also stayed over, including the president's parents, former President Bush and Barbara Bush; presidential siblings Jeb, Neil and Marvin Bush and Doro Koch; and Laura Bush's mother, Jenna Welch.

Republican governors, including Pennsylvania's Tom Ridge, now Bush's chief adviser on domestic security; Jane Hull of Arizona, George Pataki of New York, John Rowland of Connecticut, Bob Taft of Ohio and John Engler of Michigan also are among the guests.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:15 PM
Sept. Victims' Families Sue

By LAURIE KELLMAN
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (Aug. 16) - The lawyer for 700 relatives of Sept. 11 victims said Friday his clients will amend their lawsuit against Saudi officials and the Sudan government to correct a mistaken demand for $100 trillion.

The actual damages being sought are more than $1 trillion.

The larger amount, contained in a lawsuit filed Thursday in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., and widely reported by news outlets, was an error, said lead plaintiff's attorney Ron Motley.

``I don't know how $100 trillion got in there. Somebody probably typed it at four o'clock in the morning,'' Motley told the Associated Press on Friday.

He said that more than 700 relatives of people who died in the Sept. 11 attacks on New York City and Washington had joined the lawsuit by Friday afternoon, and that he expects the total to climb to 1,000 plaintiffs within a month.

The 15-count federal lawsuit seeks to cripple those it contends financed the plot, including the Sudanese government, some members of the Saudi royal family, banks and charities - and provide vengeance for the victims' families.

Several of those named did not return calls for comment, but one defendant bristled at the charges on Friday.

An official at Al Rajhi Banking and Investment Corporation said the company has not been officially notified of the lawsuit but stressed it has nothing to hide.

Motley said that his team arrived at the $1 trillion-plus damage claim by multiplying the number of plaintiffs by what he said was the average award in such cases - $30 million - and then again by three. He cited a federal law which says that damages can be tripled for victims of terrorist crimes.

Another attorney in the case, Allan Gerson, said Friday that one aim of the lawsuit was to choke off the financial support for terrorist networks.

``Until now, sponsoring terrorism has been a cost-free operation,'' Gerson said on CBS' ``The Early Show.'' He said ``we intend to stop that.''

The complaint names more than seven dozen defendants, including the government of Sudan, seven banks, eight Islamic foundations and three Saudi princes.

Those listed include Prince Mohammed al-Faisal, former intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Faisal, Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan, Khalid bin Salim bin Mahfouz of the National Commercial Bank and the Faisal Islamic Bank.

Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign minister, said last week that the 70-year-old U.S.-Saudi alliance was as solid now as before the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:16 PM
CDC: Kids Should Walk To School

By KRISTEN WYATT
.c The Associated Press

ATLANTA (Aug. 15) - Only a quarter of American children walk or bicycle to school, which may be contributing to the country's growing problem of childhood obesity, federal health officials said Thursday.

In its first national survey to look at why children aren't walking, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention asked parents their reasons for not sending their children to school on foot.

The top concerns: distance, traffic, weather and crime.

The CDC described the lack of exercise as a worrisome trend. The number of overweight teens has tripled since 1980, and in 1999 some 13 percent of children and teenagers were overweight. At the same time, Type 2 diabetes, once unheard of in children, is increasing dramatically among adolescents.

Getting more children to walk or bike to school should be a national health objective, the CDC report says. It sets a goal of getting at least 50 percent of children who live less than a mile from school walking or cycling by 2010.

It also advocates sending children to schools within walking distance of their homes and making the walking routes safer.

``We need to build physical activity into a child's daily routine,'' said Jessica Shisler, a CDC public health expert.

The CDC survey, conducted in 1999, found that about 19 percent of school children walked to or from school at least once a week, and 6 percent made the commute by cycling. The numbers were about the same for students in elementary through secondary school.

Even pupils who live within a mile of school typically get there in an automobile, the survey found. Only 31 percent of the children who lived less than a mile from school walked or biked there in an average week.

Other parents cited crime as a concern in the survey.

Tracy Power of Lawrenceville said she was afraid to let her 10-year-old daughter walk to school, even though the trip is less than a mile through an upscale neighborhood.

``You hear too many things about kids getting picked up,'' she said.

At Centennial Place Elementary in Atlanta, so many parents drive their children to school, the school recently assigned each car rider an ID number so they can be directed to the correct car out of hundreds waiting in line.

Nine-year-old Asha Hakityler said she'd rather walk - but because she lives seven miles away, ``I'd be walking all day.''

Aa'zia Taylor, 7, walks the few blocks to school every day. Her mother, Tara Taylor, walks with her and values the exercise.

``I do it because the schools don't give them enough exercise anymore,'' Taylor said. ``I think it gives her more energy when she starts the day, and then when she comes home she's had a walk so she's ready to settle down.''

The CDC report also discussed community programs that have succeeded in making school walks safer.

In Marin County, Calif., for example, a two-year campaign for safer paths and bike lanes doubled the number of students who used them in the San Francisco suburb.

The Marin County Bicycle Coalition asked parents to walk the routes to school and keep a list of hazards, such as uneven sidewalks or intersections without crosswalks. Then the parents lobbied the local government to fix the problems.

``It's been a such a success because it's showed us how healthy a community can be when we don't rely on the car for every single trip,'' said coalition director Deb Hubsmith.


Pff, I would never let my children walk to school. I'd rather they be fat and unhealthy and alive, than kidnapped and molested and killed by some pedophile. :rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:18 PM
Hi again!

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:18 PM
pffffffffff @ the world.

If they let me rule it things would be much much better :D

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:19 PM
hey Ingrid :D

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:20 PM
Hoi again!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:20 PM
South Carolina utility bans Confederate flag
August 17, 2002 Posted: 8:08 AM EDT (1208 GMT)

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (AP) -- In a state that has seen torrid debate over flying the Confederate flag, the largest utility has taken a stand.

Scana Corp. has ordered 5,500 workers not to display the Confederate flag on company property and to keep company vehicles away from barbecue restaurants owned by an outspoken flag supporter.

Company spokeswoman Cathy Love called the flag and restaurant owner Maurice Bessinger "divisive." She wouldn't say whether Scana would fire workers for displaying the flag, but said any flag display "will be appropriately addressed by the company."

Bessinger called Scana's order a "cowardly, unconstitutional act."

Scana, the parent of South Carolina Electric & Gas and other subsidiaries, has 5,480 employees. About half are in the Columbia area, where Bessinger's 11 Piggie Park restaurants are located.

Love said Scana employees are free to eat at the restaurants, but they'll be expected to park company vehicles elsewhere.

It's not the first boycott involving Bessinger, whose restaurants offer literature that includes one tract suggesting early Africans liked slavery. In 2000, major retailers including Wal-Mart and Kroger stopped selling Bessinger's sauces.

Love said employee concerns triggered Scana's action, but she wouldn't discuss a specific complaint. She said the ban doesn't prevent workers from expressing views on their own time and away from company property.

Don Gordon, commander of the Wade Hampton Camp of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, said his group may sue Scana.

"This is a freedom of speech issue," he said. "It has fallen to the Sons of Confederate Veterans to defend our liberty."

South Carolina, the last state to fly the Confederate flag from its Capitol dome, removed it after 38 years in July 2000. As part of a compromise between flag supporters and opponents, it was moved to the Confederate soldier monument on the Statehouse grounds.

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:22 PM
They can't do that, can they? Ban people from having a flag?

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:23 PM
Zimbabwe arrests over 80 farmers
August 17, 2002 Posted: 8:44 AM EDT (1244 GMT)

HARARE, Zimbabwe (Reuters) -- Zimbabwe police have arrested more than 80 white farmers and charged some in court for defying government orders to vacate land targeted for redistribution to landless blacks.

Justice for Agriculture (JAG) also said police and war veterans had assaulted a white farmer during his arrest on Saturday.

"Tony Smith who left his farm a month ago was severely beaten up early this morning allegedly by police and war veterans at his Chisipite home in Harare," said JAG spokeswoman Jenni Williams in a statement.

Seven farmers appeared in court on Friday and another 77 have been arrested for failing to comply with eviction orders, Williams said.

Of the 77 arrested, 57 are in custody, while 20 have been released and are expected to appear in court in the next few days.

She said JAG was trying to get Smith released from police custody so he could be treated for a suspected broken leg and head injuries.

Police were not immediately available for comment.

Mugabe's government has ordered 2,900 of the country's remaining 4,500 white commercial farmers to quit their land without compensation, but nearly two thirds are refusing to go after ignoring an August 8 deadline.

Mugabe, who has been in power since the country gained independence from Britain in 1980, says his land drive is aimed at correcting colonial injustice which left 70 percent of the best farmland in the hands of white farmers.

But the JAG says most of the targeted farmers have only one farm each and nowhere else to stay, nor any other source of income outside agriculture.

Zimbabwe has been in crisis since pro-government militants led by veterans of the 1970s liberation war began invading white-owned farms in early 2000.

Nearly half the population is short of food because of disruption on the farms and a drought affecting much of southern Africa.

On Saturday, the 11 Pacific members of the Commonwealth called for stronger action against Zimbabwe, but stopped short of threatening to expel the country.

"Pacific Commonwealth leaders...recommended further action by the Commonwealth should there be no rapid change of approach by the Zimbabwe government," the leaders said in a statement at the annual Pacific Islands Forum.

Mugabe told a black farmers annual congress on Friday the land reform programme was "completely irreversible."

"This is not (British Prime Minister Tony) Blair's land, this is Mugabe's land. This is the land of our ancestors," he told them.

Police spokesman Assistant Commissioner Wayne Bvudzijena said on Friday police would continue to arrest anyone defying the eviction orders.

On Saturday the Herald newspaper accused white farmers of greed, saying they were clinging to more than one farm each and trying to derail reforms.

"White farmers' actions of defiance confirm yet again their hostility towards Zimbabwe...White farmers' refusal to leave shows that their greed knows no bounds," it said in an editorial.

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:26 PM
Mugabe is a racist tyrant.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
They can't do that, can they? Ban people from having a flag?

I don't know, it may be ruled unConstitutional. I guess we'll see, as it sounds like they're going to go to court over it. As long as Scana doesn't tell they're employees not to fly the flag at home or something, they're probably okay. Seems to me like they should have the right not to want their company associated with this restaurant and the flag etc., though they'll get the pants sued off 'em if they fired an employee for it.

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:27 PM
But the JAG says most of the targeted farmers have only one farm each and nowhere else to stay, nor any other source of income outside agriculture.

Zimbabwe has been in crisis since pro-government militants led by veterans of the 1970s liberation war began invading white-owned farms in early 2000.

Nearly half the population is short of food because of disruption on the farms and a drought affecting much of southern Africa.

How long before the whole country will be starving...

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
Mugabe is a racist tyrant.

My thoughts exactly.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:29 PM
Bush calls for deficit reduction
August 17, 2002 Posted: 3:05 PM EDT (1905 GMT)

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) -- As he weighs the pieces of what could become a new White House economic plan, President Bush emphasizes a new priority -- reining in budget deficits and their political liability.

Bush used his weekly radio address Saturday to promote the no-deficits theme that emerged from the economic summit he convened this week near his ranch. That forum also yielded ideas for new tax cuts for small investors that he said had caught his eye.

"We cannot go down the path of soaring budget deficits. We must meet our defense and homeland security needs, and hold the line on other spending," Bush said in his broadcast.

Drawing parallels between the Vietnam era and today, he recalled how war spending in the 1960s was not balanced by cuts in the rest of government spending and, as a result, the 1970s saw deep unemployment, growing deficits and spiraling inflation.

"We must remember the lessons of the past," he said.

The focus on fiscal restraint comes as the president and his economic team weigh proposals for a new long-term plan to aid the struggling economy. He told reporters Friday that he was intrigued by several ideas that emerged during the forum he convened Tuesday at Baylor University in Waco, Texas.

Bush singled out four particularly "interesting ideas" -- cutting taxes on dividends and capital gains, increasing the amount of stock-market losses that individuals can deduct from one year's taxable income (currently $3,000), and speeding up increases in the amounts people can contribute to their 401(k) retirement accounts.

"I am going to analyze and think about some of the suggestions so that when I announce them they'll be well thought out, they'll be a part of a long-term plan," he said.

White House advisers later cautioned that proposals arising out of the economic forum have yet to be sorted or summarized, so any decisions on a new economic plan are likely to be weeks away.

But Bush's top economic adviser, Lawrence Lindsey, suggested on CNN's Saturday edition of "Novak, Hunt and Shields" some of what the White House has in mind: "We need tax simplification and we need lower taxation of capital on all fronts."

Senate Republican leader Trent Lott was quick to embrace the notion of a new stimulus package. "Helping investors, protecting pensions and generating market confidence are top priorities for us," said Lott, R-Miss. "These market boosters should be front and center on the Senate agenda."

Democrats in recent weeks have focused their election-year criticism of the president on the return to federal budget deficits under his tenure and tax cuts. Bush had previously laughed off the resurrected deficit -- projected to run $165 billion in the budget year ending Sept. 30, the first red ink in four years -- by saying he had always maintained that deficit spending would be necessary only if there was a war, recession or national emergency.

His standard punch line then: "I didn't think we were going to get the trifecta."

Now, with Republicans headed into November balloting that will decide control of Congress and Democratic rivals positioning to challenge Bush in 2004, the message is entirely serious.

"For the good of our economy, for the good of the people who pay taxes, my administration will spend what is truly needed, and not a dollar more," Bush said in Saturday's broadcast.

On Tuesday, Bush scrapped $5.1 billion in emergency spending approved by Congress, saying much of it was unnecessary. That decision, too, carried a political price as veterans, firefighters, AIDS activists and Jewish groups accused him of abandoning their causes by depriving them of money.

"Every project sounds like it's needed, every proposal is one that's got to be funded, and my job is to set the priorities," the president replied Friday.

He also had fresh words of praise for Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, whose blunt off-the-cuff remarks have rattled markets and lawmakers. O'Neill is "doing a fine job," Bush said. "I find him to be refreshingly candid."

Bush also confronted, despite an accelerating debate outside his administration that includes some Republican lawmakers, the question of how to oust Iraq leader Saddam Hussein.

"I am aware that, you know, some very intelligent people are expressing their opinions about Saddam Hussein and Iraq," Bush told reporters. "America needs to know, I'll be making up my mind based upon the latest intelligence, and how best to protect our own country plus our friends and allies."

Bush planned to meet this weekend with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and on Wednesday with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. Aides said the Rumsfeld meeting would focus on plans for missile defense and the Pentagon budget.

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:30 PM
uch Marly, you are in a posting mood!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:31 PM
Feds: Woman sent poison to Ted Kennedy
August 17, 2002 Posted: 12:29 PM EDT (1629 GMT)

GREAT FALLS, Montana (AP) -- A woman was charged Friday with mailing cyanide-tainted soda bottles to U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy, federal prosecutors said.

Tashala Hayman, 22, of Vaughn, mailed two bottles to the Massachusetts Democrat on August 1 and prepared another package with a tainted soda bottle to send to Britain's Prince William in Scotland, prosecutors said.

The package to Kennedy was found Thursday in the Capitol mail system. Tests found sodium cyanide in the bottles, the FBI said.

Hayman made an initial appearance in federal court Friday and remained in custody pending a bail hearing, U.S. Attorney Bill Mercer said. It wasn't immediately clear if she had an attorney.

Hayman was arrested August 8 after police said she bought a pistol with a stolen debit card number. Police said they found the package to Prince William and printouts of Sen. Hillary Clinton's address in her mobile home.

Mercer said it was not clear why she targeted Kennedy, Prince William or Clinton, D-New York.

Hayman faces up to 20 years in prison and $10,000 in fines if convicted of mailing a poison with intent to kill or injure. She was also charged with producing a false Social Security card.


What a nut-job. Scott, have you ever noticed how all the psycho anarchists end up in Montana? :o

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
"We cannot go down the path of soaring budget deficits. We must meet our defense and homeland security needs, and hold the line on other spending," Bush said in his broadcast.

"For the good of our economy, for the good of the people who pay taxes, my administration will spend what is truly needed, and not a dollar more," Bush said in Saturday's broadcast.

Need? We need all these nuclear missles while children in our own country starve, while education is the worst it's been in decades. Yes, we need to be starving morons while Bush's new plans make the rich even richer.

Woohoo!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:33 PM
Sheriff: Virginia victims knew killer, kidnapper
August 17, 2002 Posted: 11:28 AM EDT (1528 GMT)

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/US/08/17/missing.girl.virginia/story.vert.short[1].jpg

BASSETT, Virginia (CNN) -- A sheriff heading the search for a 9-year-old southwestern Virginia girl said Saturday that the FBI has joined the investigation and that whoever killed the girl's parents and abducted her was "someone the whole family knew."

But officials suspended a volunteer search effort until more evidence is available about the mysterious slayings of 50-year-old Michael Wayne Short and 36-year-old Mary Hall Short and the disappearance of their daughter, Jennifer Renee Short.

Jennifer was reported missing early Thursday after her parents were found dead in the home -- the father on a couch and the mother in her bed. Henry County Sheriff H.F. Cassell said that preliminary autopsy results confirmed that each of the parents died from a single gunshot wound to the head.

Cassell would not explain why he believes the killer or killers knew the victims, and said that authorities had questioned "dozens of people so far" but had no new information.

"It's frustrating, but we persevere," the sheriff said. "But obviously the longer the time-frame the more desperate it becomes."

Exhaustion and a lack of evidence led Old Dominion Search and Rescue team commander Richard Cox to suspend the efforts of about 150 volunteers. He said the active search, which had covered about 100 square miles around the Short home, ended at 4 a.m. EDT.

Cassell said the official investigation, now involving local, state and federal law enforcement officials, would continue unabated.

The killings and abduction have shocked the town of 1,300 in southwestern Virginia.

"This is a very unusual case. We don't see many like this," said Cassell. "We've had a lot of horrific murders, but I don't remember a genuine child abduction in this area."

Cassell said authorities have interviewed Christopher Thompson, the man who discovered the slain parents, and would likely do so again. But Thompson has provided no new information, he said.

Thompson worked for Michael Short and had been at their house the night before, working on a vehicle, said Cassell. He has told investigators the parents were alive when he left the home around midnight and that the girl was in her bed.

"So far, he's been very cooperative," Cassell told CNN's "Connie Chung Tonight."

Authorities have said little about the crime scene, such as whether there was any sign of forced entry or any sign of a struggle inside the house. But Cassell said nothing appeared to be missing from the home, apparently eliminating robbery as a motive.

Jennifer is brown-haired, 4 feet, 3 inches tall and weighs 58 pounds.

With the focus on saving the girl, an "Amber Alert" -- named after a 9-year-old girl abducted and killed in Texas six years ago -- was issued for Jennifer, with billboards and signs posted throughout the state urging Virginians to be on the lookout for the girl.


There have been soooooo many little girls kidnapped recently. :sad:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt


Need? We need all these nuclear missles while children in our own country starve, while education is the worst it's been in decades. Yes, we need to be starving morons while Bush's new plans make the rich even richer.

Woohoo!

Yes.......but there are so many people in the world who would love--and literally give their own lives--in order to kill all us of. I think that's the more pressing problem at the moment.

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:36 PM
That's so close to here :sad:

I played tennis near their home :(

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL
uch Marly, you are in a posting mood!

You say that like it's a bad thing. :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:37 PM
Yes, defense is important... but no, cutting other spending isn't the answer. I don't want to live in a military state.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:38 PM
Same-sex prison kissing case revived in Arizona
August 16, 2002 Posted: 1:33 PM EDT (1733 GMT)

SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A federal appeals court has reinstated a challenge to an Arizona prison rule prohibiting people of the same sex from kissing during inmate visits.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously decided to return the case to U.S. District Court in Phoenix to consider a gay man's complaint that his rights were violated.

Arizona's Department of Corrections allows heterosexual couples as well as relatives of the same sex to embrace during visits.

The state argued the policy was meant to protect gay inmates from abuse they might receive from other inmates who discover their sexual orientation. But the appeals court said that reasoning didn't hold up.

"Common sense indicates that an inmate who intends to hide his homosexual sexual orientation from other inmates would not openly display affection with his homosexual partner during a prison visit," Judge A. Wallace Tashima wrote in the opinion issued Monday.

The corrections department has altered its policy to allow people of the same sex to hug, but still prohibits kissing, said Martha Matthews, an attorney from the American Civil Liberties Union in Southern California, which served as co-counsel for the plaintiff.

Calls seeking comment from the Arizona Attorney General's office were not returned Wednesday.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:39 PM
Couple arrested for allegedly having sex in a church
August 16, 2002 Posted: 7:13 PM EDT (2313 GMT)

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- A Virginia couple was arraigned Friday after they were arrested for allegedly having sex in a vestibule of St. Patrick's Cathedral while parishioners worshiped nearby.

Loretta Lynn Harper, 35, of Alexandria, and her boyfriend, Brian Florence, 37, of Quantico, were charged with obscenity in the third degree and public lewdness.

Another man, Paul Mercurio, 42, of New York, who allegedly engaged in a live radio commentary on the sex act, also was arraigned on a charge of acting in concert with the couple.

The three were arrested Thursday.

The couple had entered a radio contest of the WNEW afternoon talk program, "Opie and Anthony," a police spokesman said. As part of the live show, six couples were given a list of 54 different high-risk locations at which to have sex in the city, including St. Patrick's on Fifth Avenue, and nearby Rockefeller Center.

An usher observed the couple and also saw Mercurio on his cell phone allegedly relaying the stunt back to the radio station, where he worked as a field producer, the police spokesman said.

Joe Zwilling, a spokesman for the Archdiocese of New York, called the incident, "Disgusting."

:eek: That's so wrong. And so trashy. :o

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:41 PM
Airline barks back after dog bites plane
American bans aggressive dogs after chomping rampage
August 16, 2002 Posted: 3:16 PM EDT (1916 GMT)

DALLAS, Texas (AP) -- American Airlines banned aggressive dogs from its planes after a pit bull escaped from its cage in the cargo hold of a Boeing 757, and chewed up electrical cables.

The damage knocked the plane out of commission for repairs for nine days, but never placed the July 22 flight from San Diego to New York in any danger, officials said.

Crew members said they heard thumping from the cargo hold and discovered that backup radio and some navigational equipment wasn't working.

After the plane landed, ground crews opened the cargo hold doors and spotted the pit bull running free. The dog had gnawed a hole in the bulkhead, damaged the cargo hold door and chewed through garden hose-size electrical cables.

The airline said the ban was a matter of safety and would apply to all pit bulls, Rottweilers and Doberman pinschers and any other dog that exhibits aggressive behavior.

The American Kennel Club called the airline's move an overreaction.

"There is broad agreement among canine experts that aggressive or dangerous behavior is not breed-specific," the club's chief executive, Alfred L. Cheaure, insisted in a letter this week to American officials.

Cheaure said the pit bull's rampage was caused by a problem with the container, not the dog. He said American should upgrade standards for cages instead of banning some dogs.

But Carla Restivo, a Dallas breeder of American Staffordshire, a type of pit bull, said she found it hard to fault American Airlines.

"Airlines have enough to deal with, and it's pretty scary to have a dog come out of a crate and wreak havoc," she said.

So far, the airline has not sought reimbursement for repairs from the dog's owner, who paid $177.78 to ship the animal.


Aw, no. How will the Predators get anywhere? :o :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:43 PM
FBI lab finds no clues in Chandra Levy probe
August 16, 2002 Posted: 12:02 AM EDT (0402 GMT)

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/US/08/15/levy.fbi/story.chandra.sunglasses.jpg

WASHINGTON (AP) -- An FBI laboratory analysis of clothing found with former federal intern Chandra Levy's remains provided no clues about her killer's identity, law enforcement officials said Thursday.

Police hoped that Levy's T-shirt, running bra, leggings and exercise shoes would hold microscopic traces of blood, hair, fibers or semen that could lead them to her attacker.

"There was nothing useful," said a police official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Sgt. Joe Gentile, a Washington police spokesman, would not comment on the results of the lab work. "The case is still under investigation," Gentile said.

A man walking his dog and looking for turtles found Levy's remains on a steep hillside in Rock Creek Park on May 22, nearly 13 months after she disappeared. She was 24.

Her case drew national attention because of her relationship with Rep. Gary Condit, D-California. Condit, 54 and married, reportedly told police he and Levy, a constituent from Modesto, California, were having an affair, but police do not consider him a suspect in her death.

Although Levy's remains did not show conclusively how she died, police believe she was killed where her remains were found or nearby.

Dr. Jonathan Arden, Washington's medical examiner, said he found no evidence of shooting, stabbing or beating. Strangulation remains a possibility, he has said.

So little could be gleaned from the bones because her body lay undetected for more than a year in park teeming with wildlife and through changes of season. Search teams that went through the park in the weeks after Levy vanished inexplicably missed the part of the sprawling park where she eventually was found.

Law enforcement officials and forensics officials have said valuable evidence probably was lost in that time.

Investigators are focusing on the park, including its employees and people who exercise there, in their search for Levy's killer.

They have all but ruled out two men who were convicted of violent crimes against women in the park last year, one of whom assaulted a jogger just two weeks after Levy disappeared.

Police, then, are left with two distinct possibilities: that another attacker was on the loose in the park around the same time or that Levy was killed by someone she knew.


*cough*Gary Condit*cough*

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


You say that like it's a bad thing. :p

:p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
Yes, defense is important... but no, cutting other spending isn't the answer. I don't want to live in a military state.

No one wants that, but I'd rather be alive than dead. And as for cutting spending elsewhere, I think we should just confiscate all the MLB players' salaries and tell them to go on and fucking strike, and see if we care. :o :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:45 PM
lol...

Hopefully they'll stay in Italy or wherever it is they live :rolleyes:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL


:p

Don't talk smack, Ingrid, talk sense! Respond to my news, dammit! :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:47 PM
Bush, Democrats trade jabs over U.S. budget
August 17, 2002 Posted: 1:01 PM EDT (1701 GMT)

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) -- Warning that growing deficits could imperil the U.S. economy, President George W. Bush threatened on Saturday to block spending bills that breach his budget plans.

Stepping up the partisan war of words over the economy and budget policy, Bush used his weekly radio address to lash out at the Democrat-led Senate, accusing it of ignoring fiscal discipline by pushing for new spending on non-emergency programs like public housing.

"We cannot go down the path of soaring budget deficits. We must meet our defense and homeland security needs, and hold the line on other spending," Bush said from his ranch in Crawford, Texas, where he is spending most of August on vacation.

While Bush stopped short of issuing a blanket veto threat, he made clear he would not shy away from an appropriations battle in the run-up to the November congressional elections.

"If Congress will not show spending restraint, I will enforce spending restraint for the good of our economy, for the good of the people who pay taxes," Bush said.

The White House is counting on Bush's hard-line stance on spending to help shore up confidence in his handling of the beleaguered U.S. economy.

Democrats countered that the Republican administration squandered the strong economy left by former President Bill Clinton, and blamed Bush's $1.35 trillion tax cut in 2001 for bringing back federal budget deficits after four straight years of surpluses.

"George Bush inherited the strongest economy in the nation's history and the first federal budget surplus in a generation, and George Bush fumbled it away. Since he's taken office, 1.6 million Americans have lost their jobs, and the deficit has now climbed to $150 billion," said Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe.

The federal government is expected to post a deficit of more than $165 billion this fiscal year -- the largest since fiscal 1994, according to Bush's budget director.

The White House does not expect surpluses to return until fiscal 2005, assuming that Democrats who currently control the Senate stick to the administration's proposed spending levels.

Republicans said Bush's tax cuts have helped the United States recover from the twin shocks of a recession and the September 11 attacks. They blamed a surge in government spending advocated by Democrats -- not lower taxes -- for the red ink.

Comparison to Vietnam
Hoping to convince voters that he is dealing aggressively with the nation's economic troubles, Bush this week convened an economic forum and said he may propose a new economic stimulus package to entice investors back to a stock market hard hit by accounting scandals.

"We must remember the lessons of the past," Bush said, comparing the anti-terrorism campaign he launched in response to the September 11 attacks to the war in Vietnam.

"In the 1960s, increased spending required by war was not balanced by slower spending in the rest of the government. As a result, in the 1970s we faced unemployment and growing deficits and spiraling inflation," Bush said.

Bush is eager to avoid a mistake made by his father in 1992, when a perception took hold among voters that the elder President Bush was out of touch on the ailing economy. That helped Clinton turn him out of the White House.

McAuliffe said history was repeating itself.

"A decade later, it's a different George Bush, but the same message: Mr. President, you haven't used your power to restore economic growth, to enhance retirement security, to improve health care, to invest in education, to protect our environment. So step aside. Because Democrats will lead," McAuliffe said.

To show Senate Democrats -- and the American people -- that he is serious about fiscal restraint, Bush this week rejected $5.1 billion in "extra spending I did not ask for."

Democrats protested the move, saying it jeopardized defense and U.S. foreign policy since the package included money for airport security as well as aid for Israel and the Palestinians.

Bush also criticized the Senate for seeking hundreds of millions of dollars more than he requested for public housing, agricultural research and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. "Unfortunately, the Senate has not even passed a budget framework, and so far it has been ignoring fiscal discipline," Bush said.

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:47 PM
:eek: @ that church article


sick people imo :rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


No one wants that, but I'd rather be alive than dead. And as for cutting spending elsewhere, I think we should just confiscate all the MLB players' salaries and tell them to go on and fucking strike, and see if we care. :o :p

ROFL

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:49 PM
GOP upset over ratings by Hispanic groups
August 16, 2002 Posted: 10:53 AM EDT (1453 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republicans, determined to win more Hispanic votes in this fall's election, must first contend with advocacy groups that are not sold on the party's legislative agenda.

The GOP criticized those groups about a scorecard that rated congressional Democrats far more positively than Republicans.

"This scorecard might as well have gone out on Democratic Party letterhead," said Danny Diaz, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee. He said the report did not adequately measure votes on such issues as tax cuts and school accountability.

The scorecard was released Wednesday by the National Hispanic Leadership Agenda, which represents 35 national Hispanic groups, including the National Council of La Raza, the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

The report rated lawmakers on votes related to civil rights, education, economic mobility and health.

A positive score was registered for a vote against a House education bill that the report said provided insufficient resources for schools and too little help for students with limited English language skills. Favorably rated were votes for a measure allowing people whose names were not on registration lists to fill out provisional ballots at the polls.

The scorecard favored votes in the Senate against the confirmation of John Ashcroft to be attorney general, for a patients' bill of rights and for legislation to repair and renovate public schools.

"I'm not surprised," said Sharon Castillo, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee who specializes in Hispanic outreach. "We're talking about Democrats grading Democrats."

Republican Hispanic outreach efforts have focused on talking directly with voters, recruiting new leaders and, when needed, working around leaders who may be closely allied with the Democratic Party.

President Bush's job approval among Hispanics was at 70 percent in a poll taken in May by Democratic pollster Sergio Bendixen, though Bush got half that level of support in the 2000 election.

Bush has encouraged Republicans to aggressively recruit Hispanics, the nation's fastest growing minority. His popularity has given Republicans hope they can improve their performance among Hispanics in this year's congressional elections.

"The entire country sides with the president on the issue of the war," said Guillermo Meneses, who coordinates the Hispanic outreach efforts of the Democratic Party. But that popularity does not diminish the loyalty Hispanics long have shown Democrats, he said.

Republicans researched the leadership of the groups that compiled the ratings and found that board members' support, both financial and political, was lopsided toward Democrats.

"Organizations that claim to represent Latinos should represent all Latinos," said the RNC's Castillo.

Maria Demeo of MALDEF said her group criticizes both Republicans and Democrats. "Clearly all the groups in the coalition are nonpartisan," she said.

If the Hispanic people in Texas have their way, Tony Sanchez will be our next governor. And THAT will be a disaster. :rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


Don't talk smack, Ingrid, talk sense! Respond to my news, dammit! :p

:p ;)

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 09:51 PM
:rolleyes: @ Germaine Greer that woman :o

:wavey: I added to the LRC Thread ;)

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:51 PM
White House stresses respect for Fox
Mexican leader cancels meeting with Bush
August 15, 2002 Posted: 11:35 AM EDT (1535 GMT)

DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) -- The White House Thursday stressed its respect for Mexican President Vicente Fox, following his decision to cancel an upcoming meeting with President Bush to protest the overnight execution in Texas of a man from Mexico.

Mexican national Javier Suarez Medina was executed in Bush's home state for the 1988 murder of Dallas police drug agent Lawrence Cadena. Fox had made several appeals to U.S. authorities to commute Suarez's sentence to life in prison.

Medina is said to have been unaware that the Mexican consulate could have offered help in the time after his 1988 arrest.

"We understand President Fox is unable to meet with President Bush while President Bush is in Crawford," Jim Orr, a White House spokesman, told reporters traveling with Bush in Iowa. "President Bush respects President Fox, and the two have an excellent professional relationship and a strong friendship."

Orr added that the tie between the two men "reflects the deep bond between the two countries. Bush looks forward to his next meeting with President Fox."

Fox was to have joined Bush at his Texas ranch later this month.

The two leaders discussed the matter Tuesday before the execution took place, a White House official confirmed.


Go awayyyyyyyy, Vicente Fox. Y'all reckon he was willing to PAY for this cop killer being kept in a US prison for life? :rolleyes:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
:rolleyes: @ Germaine Greer that woman :o

:wavey: I added to the LRC Thread ;)

I've never heard of her, but she sounds downright batty to me. :rolleyes: :eek: at the thought of me having a kid right now. Like I could take care of it just because I can "roll around on the floor." :rolleyes:

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:53 PM
Warner!

For public education

Warner!

for fiscal conservation

Warner!

he's got a solid reputation

lalalala

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:55 PM
Governor Mark R. Warner
Governor Mark R. Warner has worked hard to restore Virginia's fiscal integrity and is building the foundation for a stronger economy, improved education and a better quality of life for all Virginians. His administration has been marked by a commitment to bi-partisanship, inclusiveness and simple accountability.

A New Beginning
Since his inauguration in January 2002, Governor Warner's tenure has been marked by several significant achievements and a willingness to work with all on ideas that move Virginia forward.

Although he inherited a $3.8 billion budget shortfall, within his first 100 days Governor Warner managed to deliver a balanced budget on time and without partisan rancor or gridlock, while still preserving funds for critical priorities such as school construction, teacher bonuses and student financial aid.

Equally committed to making state government as efficient and fiscally sound as it can be, the Governor has appointed the Commission on Efficiency and Effectiveness to make recommendations on eliminating redundancy and increasing productivity throughout state government; he has also addressed problems of mismanagement at the Virginia Department of Transportation, including the appointment of a new commissioner.

Economic growth and job creation are also top priorities for Governor Warner. Since January 2002, he has announced almost 3,000 new jobs and nearly $600 million in private investments for the Commonwealth. Displaced and unemployed Virginians have also benefited: The Governor's Economic Strike Force has already been deployed to three economically hard-hit regions of Virginia and set up Relief Centers where affected citizens can “one-stop shop” for a variety of government and private-sector services and job-related programs.

A Path in Business
Born on December 15, 1954, Governor Warner grew up in a middle-class family where he learned the value of hard work, faith and family, and the importance of a good education. With the help of student loans and a few part-time jobs, Governor Warner worked his way through school. He became the first in his family to graduate from college, earning his Bachelor's degree from George Washington University in 1977 and a law degree from Harvard Law School in 1980.

But instead of practicing law, Governor Warner followed a different passion — business. And although he learned during his first two business ventures that it isn't always easy getting started, he did not give up.

Governor Warner remained determined, worked hard, and in the early 1980s started his first successful company here in Virginia. And he didn't stop there. The Governor went on to become a founding partner of Columbia Capital Corporation, a technology venture capital fund in Alexandria, and started more than 65 businesses that have grown to employ more than 15,000 workers.

But Governor Warner's hard work extended beyond the business community: He has been a dedicated leader in community life across Virginia and remains committed to improving the lives of all Virginians.

New and Innovative Companies
Before he became governor, he started the Virginia Health Care Foundation, which has provided health care to more than 400,000 underserved Virginians in rural and urban areas. Through the Virginia Health Care Foundation, the Governor started SeniorNavigator.com, an online program that helps Virginia senior citizens and their families, caregivers, churches and community groups use the Internet to find answers to medical questions, locate senior health services and connect with other senior citizens in their communities.

Cognizant of the crucial need to help bridge the digital divide, Governor Warner started TechRiders, an innovative new program that teaches basic computer skills to the people who need them most. Techriders has been hosted in more than 480 houses of worship across Virginia, reaching more than 14,600 participants.

In 1997, Governor Warner developed and launched the Virginia High-Tech Partnership, which helps students from Virginia's five Historically Black Colleges and Universities pursue technology careers through a summer internship and job placement program. Through the Partnership, hundreds of students have been placed in 106 companies. To help liberal arts students find good jobs while giving companies a new proven pool of workers, Governor Warner also developed Tek.Xam, a test that allows students to demonstrate their technology skills to high-tech companies. The successful program has been offered on more than 60 college campuses and has been endorsed by dozens of major employers.

A Virginia for All Virginians
Governor Warner has the firm belief that, in order for Virginia to continue to prosper no Virginian can be left behind. To that end, before he became Governor he founded four regional investment funds that have raised tens of millions of dollars to help the southwest, Southside, Richmond and Tidewater areas of Virginia attract businesses so their communities can share in the prosperity enjoyed by other parts of the state.

The Governor is committed to giving everyone in the Commonwealth the tools to compete and thrive in the new economy. He is dedicated to seeing Virginia lead the nation in the new century — and the new economy. And he understands that in order for this to happen, Virginia needs a leader who understands our changing world and economy, and who has the business skills to help manage Virginia government more efficiently.

Governor Warner is married to Lisa Collis and is the father of three daughters, Madison, Gillian, and Eliza.

http://www.governor.state.va.us/images/WarnerPortraitFramed.jpg

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:56 PM
Florida child welfare appointee under fire
August 16, 2002 Posted: 10:34 PM EDT (0234 GMT)

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (AP) -- Gov. Jeb Bush's choice to head the state's troubled child welfare agency came under fire Friday for his links to a published article that said spanking that causes bruises and welts is OK and married women shouldn't have careers.

Jerry Regier, appointed Thursday as secretary of the Department of Children & Families, defended himself against the criticism Friday. He said he was a co-chairman of the group that released the 1989 paper but he did not write the paper and does not support its positions.

He said he broke his relationship with The Coalition on Revival, Inc., about a year after the article was published because of the group's extreme interpretations of the Bible.

"It is not my position that corporal punishment should result in welts or bruises," Regier wrote in a statement released Friday. "My own wife of 34 years is a registered nurse, and I am extremely supportive of her career. I support women in the work force as well as women holding an equal role in marriage."

When Bush appointed Regier, who had worked in his father's administration in the early 1990s, he said the agency needed to get down to work instead of spending all its energy reacting to problems.

Instead, Bush and Regier found themselves on the defensive when Democrats and some child advocates criticized the new appointee for his involvement in a 1989 article titled "The Christian World View of the Family."

The article says Christians shouldn't marry non-Christians, couples should only be allowed to divorce in cases of adultery or abandonment, and premarital sex and masturbation should be not be "accepted as 'normal' or legal."

"These writings show that Jeb Bush either didn't do his homework and thoroughly review Jerry Regier's background before he made this appointment or he agrees with the extreme positions his appointee has taken regarding women and families," said Florida Democratic Party Chairman Bob Poe.

Regier responded in a statement Friday that he did not exercise editorial control over the paper's content.

"Rather, as a family advocate, I was asked to serve as a co-chairman of the group that released the paper," he said.

Bush, on a campaign bus tour through northeast Florida, defended his choice and said his background was thoroughly checked. Bush said he did not know about the paper before appointing Regier, but accepted that Regier had distanced himself from it.

"He doesn't share those extreme views," Bush said. "The focus ought to be on protecting children, and I believe he will do a good job."

Regier, 57, was named to replace Kathleen Kearney, who resigned Tuesday amid a series of high-profile cases that have shaken confidence in the department.

Florida's child welfare agency has been under fire since it was revealed that 5-year-old Rilya Wilson had been missing from state custody for 15 months before the agency reported realized and reported the girl's disappearance

Regier served as the Oklahoma cabinet secretary for social services for five years, completing his tenure in January. He's also worked in Washington in social service posts for both President Reagan and the first president Bush, Jeb Bush's father.

I'm all for spanking kids (didn't hurt me any) but there's a BIG ol' difference between spanking and beating. And btw, I'm not one of those crazy Christians.

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


I've never heard of her, but she sounds downright batty to me. :rolleyes: :eek: at the thought of me having a kid right now. Like I could take care of it just because I can "roll around on the floor." :rolleyes:

Greer is a leading feminist, but you don't miss anything if you don't know her.

But now at least you know the required qualification for having a kid... :rolleyes:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 09:58 PM
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/16/fred.thompson.ap/top.thompson.ap.jpg

Sen. Fred Thompson returns to acting
August 16, 2002 Posted: 1:08 PM EDT (1708 GMT)

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Retiring U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson is returning to his acting and legal roots as the new chief prosecutor on NBC's "Law & Order."

His term ends in January, but he'll appear regularly during the show's 13th season beginning October 2, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The Tennessee Republican replaces Dianne Wiest, who played a district attorney the past two seasons. He'll also appear on two "Law & Order" spin-offs, "Special Victims Unit" and "Criminal Intent."

This will be Thompson's first foray into television after appearing in 18 feature films, including "The Hunt for Red October," "Die Hard 2" and "In the Line of Fire."

He was assistant U.S. attorney in Tennessee and a lawyer in Washington, serving as minority counsel to the Senate Watergate Committee at age 30.

The 59-year-old won former Vice President Al Gore's seat in the U.S. Senate in 1994 and was re-elected in 1996. He said in March that he's retiring for personal reasons.

Only in America, y'all. :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


I've never heard of her, but she sounds downright batty to me. :rolleyes: :eek: at the thought of me having a kid right now. Like I could take care of it just because I can "roll around on the floor." :rolleyes:

Marl she is totally mad-She's what you call a reallllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyy EXTREME Feminist :rolleyes: :o

Germaine Greer: Feminist Icon She is one of the most famous soldiers of the gender wars, Germaine Greer. Her reputation was made in 1970, when she wrote The Female Eunuch. The book helped mobilize the women's movement and it turned its author into one of the most important voices in feminism. Now, after 30 years, she has written a sequel. In it, she says feminism has not gone far enough. Hana Gartner caught up with Germaine Greer when she was in Toronto recently. Now 60, she remains outspoken and provocative. She is also a woman in love.
Some snippets from her Toronto presentation:


"It's not just sexism we have to deal with, it's outright misogyny that we have to deal with every day. And I become desperate when I realize that many women just don't get it."
"What we're doing in the Balkans is having a big technological orgasm: we're firing all those phallic objects, we're actually getting off on them."

"You can implant an embryo in the body of a man, attached to his bowel wall. What do you want to do? Do you want to really prove that the vagina and the anus are of equal value?"

http://www.bestforwomen.conf.au/images/gg_pic.jpg

Scotso
08-17-2002, 09:59 PM
No masturbation?!?!?!?! :eek:

I'd die! :o

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL


Greer is a leading feminist, but you don't miss anything if you don't know her.

But now at least you know the required qualification for having a kid... :rolleyes:

Jeez, I need to get to work right away. Sex, anyone? :rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:01 PM
Gov. Jeb Bush's choice to head the state's troubled child welfare agency came under fire Friday for his links to a published article that said spanking that causes bruises and welts is OK and married women shouldn't have careers.

to add in the :rolleyes: category imo (along with Greer), in the running for that trophy too, geee :rolleyes:

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:03 PM
I'm going to be the United States' first openly gay president.

Everyone will love me, and if they don't, I'll have them killed.

:D

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
No masturbation?!?!?!?! :eek:

I'd die! :o

I wouldn't suffer from that particular affliction, but it is rather stupid.

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:05 PM
Men pretty much have to masturbate. If you don't, it can result in extreme medical problems like testicular cancer and also infertility and impotence.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:07 PM
Poles celebrate pope's visit
August 17, 2002 Posted: 8:46 AM EDT (1246 GMT)

KRAKOW, Poland -- Tens of thousands of Poles gave Pope John Paul II a joyous welcome on Saturday, shouting: "Long live the pope!" as he arrived to consecrate a new basilica.

Some 4,000 faithful clapped in rhythm as the 82-year-old pontiff made his way through the recently finished Basilica of God's Mercy on a rolling platform.

Outside, at least 10,000 people filled the lawn in front of the basilica, waving flags and exploding in cheers when the pontiff circled in his "Popemobile."

Poles hoped the four-day visit to his homeland would invigorate John Paul, who is showing the symptoms of Parkinson's disease and arthritis, which slow his speech and movement and leave him with trembling hands.

Consecrating the basilica at a shrine where he used to pray on his way to forced labour in a salt quarry under the Nazis, John Paul referred to evil in the world, making what appeared to be references to the September 11 terror attacks and their aftermath.

"Where hatred and the thirst for revenge dominate, where war brings suffering and death to the innocent, there the grace of mercy is needed," the pope said, his voice faltering.

For many in Poland and around the world, the pope's consecration of the new basilica dedicated to the Divine Mercy movement and an adjoining pilgrim complex the key event of his four-day visit.

The church in the Krakow suburb of Lagiewniki is built on the gravesite of the mystic nun Faustina, born Helena Kowalska, who the pope canonized in 2000.

Later in the day, the pontiff is scheduled to meet Polish President Alexander Kwasneiwski and Prime Minister Leszek Miller, as well as local politicians and clergy.

Thousands gathered at Krakow's airport Friday, welcoming the pope as he descended the steps from his aircraft on his own.

Since the pontiff's birthday in May the rumours and denials of his retirement have been surfacing almost on a weekly basis.

The story was fuelled in part by high-ranking churchmen, who for the first time were not afraid to openly discuss the subject.

Hoping to curb the gossip, the Vatican turned to writer Vittorio Messori, a long time collaborator of the pope's who published an official denial quoting absolutely unimpeachable sources.

But more telling than Messori's newspaper rebuttal, was the pope's determination to follow through with his last pastoral trip to North America in July and the planning that is going on for future trips to Croatia and the Phillippines.

The pope is widely viewed by Poles as their liberator from communist oppression, CNN correspondent Chris Burns said, adding: "Many will come to bid the ailing pope goodbye."


The Polish president said he hopes the visit will provide the pope with a "miracle cure"
Many remember his first homecoming to Poland in June 1979. Despite the communist government limiting his itinerary, huge crowds attended Mass.

During that trip, he blessed the legalisation of the independent trade union, Solidarity, and later strongly condemned the imposition of martial law by Poland's communist rulers as they desperately clung to power.

More papal trips in 1989 emboldened the anti-communist opposition, and crippling strikes later led to a non-communist government taking power, marking the first major crack in the Soviet bloc. The Berlin Wall began to crumble two months later.

This visit is his 98th foreign trip during his 23-year papacy.

On Sunday, the pope will celebrate an outdoor Mass in Krakow's Blonia Park. He also plans to visit Krakow's Wawel Cathedral, where, as young Karol Wojtyla, he prayed as Nazi bombs fell on Poland at the start of World War II.

On his last day in the country, the pope plans to say Mass Monday at a Calvary sanctuary, called Kalwaria Zebrzydowska, about 20 miles outside of Krakow in the Carpathian foothills.

As a priest and bishop, the pope used to visit the Franciscan-run pilgrimage site, which is Poland's oldest and largest shrine dedicated to Christ's passion and the suffering of Mary.

Unlike previous visits to his homeland that sometimes covered 20 cities in a week, this journey will be limited to the Krakow region, where he was ordained and lived for 40 years before being elected pope in 1978.

Long live the Pope? The poor thing will be lucky to be alive in a year. :rolleyes: Or maybe that's unlucky, at the rate he's going.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
Men pretty much have to masturbate. If you don't, it can result in extreme medical problems like testicular cancer and also infertility and impotence.

All that and the fact that you're horn dogs. :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:09 PM
The Pope needs to retire. He's too sick.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:09 PM
Two U.S.-Mexico border crossers found dead
August 17, 2002 Posted: 9:06 AM EDT (1306 GMT)

TUCSON, Arizona (AP) -- Two Mexican border crossers died in the desert west of Tucson, Arizona, during a deadly hot break in the summer monsoon season.

Four people flagged down U.S. Border Patrol agents and told them their companion had died Friday afternoon near the village of Little Tucson, on the Tohono O'odham Nation, said Border Patrol spokesman Al Fresquez.

The men led the agents to the body of a 43-year-old from Guanajuato state, in central Mexico.

The death was the second near Little Tucson in less than 24 hours.

Border Patrol agents out on a rescue mission Thursday night found a group of seven people, who reported they had left four companions behind, Fresquez said.

The agents searched southeast of Little Tucson and found the four, Fresquez said. Three were fine, but one, a 55-year-old man from Mexico City, had died.

The names of the deceased have not been released, officials said.

The deaths raised the number of people known to have died this year while illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border into southern Arizona to at least 116, according to an Arizona Daily Star compilation of law-enforcement records.

Mexico, get your act together so people stop infiltrating the US and dying.

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


All that and the fact that you're horn dogs. :p

ROTFLMAO ;)

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:10 PM
Like you gals don't get horny :rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:11 PM
Cilla, you're so right re Greer.

I don't know why people want to listen to her in the first place :rolleyes:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
The Pope needs to retire. He's too sick.

Can the Pope retire, Ingrid? I guess so, but I thought he ruled or whatever until death because Catholics think he's got a special connection to God or something. Can he abdicate?

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:11 PM
finally my sister and her friend are leaving! I can see what he looks like out the window :D

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:12 PM
Help, I can't keep up with these posts LOL... a lot of articles!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
Like you gals don't get horny :rolleyes:

Pff, don't demean my sex by listing them alongside yours. :o :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL
Help, I can't keep up with these posts LOL... a lot of articles!

Read faster. :p

Too bad Ana isn't here; she gets annoyed when I post the news because it's too depressing for her. :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:13 PM
OH MY GOD HE'S HOT!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:13 PM
I'm alwayz afraid for the Pope he's always having some accident like falling the bath or something :o

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


Can the Pope retire, Ingrid? I guess so, but I thought he ruled or whatever until death because Catholics think he's got a special connection to God or something. Can he abdicate?

yes, he can. Not that it is common, they usually die while being in office.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:14 PM
Call for Napoleon DNA test
August 17, 2002 Posted: 1213 GMT

PARIS (AP) -- For decades, the fate of Napoleon Bonaparte has been debated and studied. Now a French historian is locked in an uphill battle against the government over a DNA test he says could end the doubts.

Historian Bruno Roy-Henry believes British authorities may have removed Napoleon's remains before his coffin was returned to France in 1840 -- and that the body under the gilded dome of Les Invalides is that of another man.

But France's Defense Ministry has refused, at least for now, to allow a DNA test, which Roy-Henry contends would put an end to all questions about the identity of the body in Napoleon's Tomb.

"I have a feeling that the French authorities are very perturbed," Roy-Henry told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Friday.

Roy-Henry points to a series of anomalies surrounding Napoleon's death on the Mediterranean island of St. Helena in 1821, and the transfer of his remains to Paris 19 years later.

He cites the disappearance of the emperor's silver spurs. These were fastened to Napoleon's boots when he was buried in St. Helena, but missing when the coffin was opened in Paris in 1840. Witnesses to the opening of the coffin said the body appeared well-preserved _ not in a state of decomposition that one would expect from a body buried 19 years earlier.

To prove his theory, Roy-Henry wrote to France's Defense Ministry last month to request a DNA test on a strand of Napoleon's hair.

Doctors took the strand from the body currently lying in Les Invalides just before the coffin arrived in Paris. It was later given to Bonaparte's nephew, Emperor Napoleon III, before being put in a permanent exhibit at the Army Museum in Paris in 1936.

"The simplest way to put an end to all of this is a DNA test, but it has been refused," said Roy-Henry. "So I have deduced that there is something to hide."

In a letter to the historian on July 21, the Defense Ministry said there was insufficient evidence to warrant the test.

Ministry spokesman Yann Trehin said that "to our state of knowledge, it is effectively the emperor lying in the tomb."

The ministry also told Roy-Henry he must seek the agreement of Napoleon's descendants, some of whom live in Italy and the emperor's birthplace of Corsica, to provide a DNA sample before the case can proceed further.

"Honestly, I think that it's an alibi so that they don't have to justify themselves for their refusal," he said.

Roy-Henry said he has written to Charles Napoleon, a great-great-grandnephew who lives in Corsica, to request a DNA sample but has not yet received a reply.

But what would have been the British motive for removing the body? The circumstances surrounding Napoleon's death are a subject of fierce debate.

While textbooks say Napoleon died of stomach cancer, claims that the British poisoned him with arsenic are rife. If that were the case, they would have tried to hide the crime, Roy-Henry argued.

"It is even possible to imagine that King George IV (of England) wanted to keep Napoleon's body as a trophy," said Roy-Henry.

He concedes that there is no proof for any of those theories. But a DNA test could at least settle the question about who lies in the tomb.

Pardon my lack of historical understanding and French national pride, but whooooooo caaaaaaaaares??? :rolleyes:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
OH MY GOD HE'S HOT!

Lol!!!!! How did I know that was coming.....;) The whole Pope thing reminds me whent he Queen Mum got a fishbone stuck in her throat-That was quite funny at the time :o It just sounded so pathetic!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL


yes, he can. Not that it is common, they usually die while being in office.

Well then he should. Let the poor ol' dude rest in peace, I say.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick


Lol!!!!! How did I know that was coming.....;) The whole Pope thing reminds me whent he Queen Mum got a fishbone stuck in her throat-That was quite funny at the time :o It just sounded so pathetic!

LOL, poor thing! I think the story about Bush choking on a pretzel, passing out and conking his head on a table is funnier. :o :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:16 PM
No you don't understand.

He's REALLY hot!

Not as hot as my baby, but hot!

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:18 PM
I'm going to call my baby :wavey:

see ya in a few :)

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


Well then he should. Let the poor ol' dude rest in peace, I say.


He won't give up it seems... there are more people like that ;)

But seriously, he should, it's not serving anyone.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:18 PM
Diana tapes to be broadcast
August 17, 2002 Posted: 1848 GMT

LONDON, England -- Diana, Princess of Wales, is set to speak from beyond the grave.

Tapes she recorded for her tell-all book with Andrew Morton are to be aired for the first time on American television.

Extracts from the recordings, in which she spoke of her unhappy marriage to the Prince of Wales and her suicide bids, are included as part of a new film being screened next month to coincide with the fifth anniversary of her death.

The dramatised CBS film, The Secret Life of Princess Diana, tells the story of her collaboration with Morton.

The programme stars British actor Paul McGann, Faye Dunaway and Brian Cox.

But the acting blends with real footage of Diana, and the actual recordings she made which were used by Morton for his best selling book Diana: Her True Story.

It will be the first time her voice has been heard to any extent since her death in the Paris car crash.

Morton's book was an immediate bestseller when it was released in the early-1990s, but was vilified by royalists and Diana's enemies as a piece of fiction.

It revealed her eating disorder and that she threw herself down the stairs.

The film's makers said they decided it would have been impossible for an actress to successfully portray the princess.

Director Philip Saville said: "After I read the screenplay, I was so much touched and convinced that there is an important and unknown story which must be told about the Princess."

Morton worked with the producers on the film, which took about three years to make.

There are currently no plans to show it in the UK.


Speaking of people who should just be allowed to rest in peace...:rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


LOL, poor thing! I think the story about Bush choking on a pretzel, passing out and conking his head on a table is funnier. :o :p

def. funnier

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:20 PM
:wavey: Scott! Oh the bush pretzel thing was absoultely hillarious :D :D What a dope :o :p

:eek: :eek: I was just about to mention Diana!

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Speaking of people who should just be allowed to rest in peace...:rolleyes:

yep, but $$$ ...

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:21 PM
I'm reading the news from a "European point of view" and it's weird. :o

NATO troops end Karadzic search
August 16, 2002 Posted: 1221 GMT

CELIKOVO POLJE, Bosnia-Herzegovina -- NATO-led troops have wrapped up a two-day search for those helping the U.N.'s most wanted war crimes suspect, Radovan Karadzic, evade arrest.

Under cover of darkness on Thursday night, hundreds of troops left a remote area in the mountains of eastern Bosnia near the Montenegrin border, about 70 kilometers (45 miles) southeast of Sarajevo, where the former Bosnian Serb wartime leader is presumed to be hiding.

The move by NATO is part of its stepped-up campaign to bring the wartime Bosnian Serb leader and genocide suspect to trial at the U.N. tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, which is based in The Hague, Netherlands. (Karadzic profile)

The military alliance is targeting people who have enabled one of the world's most wanted men to remain a fugitive for almost seven years following the 1992-95 war.

"The operation has concluded and the troops are back in camps," Maj. Scott Lundy, spokesman for the NATO-led peacekeeping force known as SFOR, told The Associated Press.

After German troops began leaving on Thursday evening, with French troops following overnight, only regular ground patrols remained in the area, AP reported. An American helicopter base also could be seen about 4 kilometers (2.5 miles) away from the border with Montenegro.

SFOR said it launched the operation to learn more about "the circle of people who shelter, feed, alert, guard and move Karadzic in an effort to keep him from justice."

Lundy said that while it was too soon to fully evaluate results, SFOR was "very pleased with the way the operation went."

"We had a lot of information to confirm, and it helped us gain a clear and larger picture of Karadzic's support network," Lundy said. "The success of the operation will be measured by the next effort that will be made to detain Radovan Karadzic."

A local police official requesting anonymity told AP his force would cooperate with the foreign peacekeepers' regular patrols in collecting weapons from ordinary citizens, who kept them after Bosnia's 1992-95 war.

He said police would not search houses but would ask people to give up their weapons voluntarily.

Karadzic has twice been indicted by the U.N. war crimes tribunal for genocide during Europe's worst military conflict since World War Two, in which more than 200,000 people died.

He is widely believed to be hiding in the eastern part of Bosnia or in neighbouring Montenegro, Serbia's smaller partner in the Yugoslav federation, Reuters news agency said.

Karadzic remains popular among nationalist Serbs, especially in the east Bosnian region, which is still politically controlled by hardliners.

Human rights activists have criticised NATO for failing to capture Karadzic and his wartime military chief, Ratko Mladic.

In July, peacekeepers swooped on Karadzic's family house in the mountain town of Pale near Sarajevo.

The U.N. tribunal has indicted the two men for the 1995 massacre of up to 8,000 Muslim men and boys in the eastern town of Srebrenica and the siege of Sarajevo, in which more than 10,000 people died.

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:22 PM
Scott :wavey:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:22 PM
I like Bush. He's from Texas. :p But he is a bit of a goof. :o :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:24 PM
Laura Bush confirms that pretzel size does matter

Oliver Burkeman in New York
Wednesday February 13, 2002
The Guardian

Let one thing be understood. The president of the United States may not be a master of English; he may not opt for Clintonesque working hours - he may even, according to a new biography, never have heard of Leonardo di Caprio or of veganism - but when he chokes on a pretzel, he chokes on a man-sized pretzel.
That was the message forcefully communicated by first lady Laura Bush on American television this week, when she produced a large, hard pretzel of the kind that rendered her husband briefly unconscious last month. "It isn't really a sissy pretzel," Mrs Bush told the late-night talk-show host Jay Leno.

Speculation had been rife that the president was knocked out by a tiny pretzel. But Mrs Bush revealed the truth: a tough specimen, perhaps four inches across. Mr Bush, she assured Leno, is now "practising safe snacks".

"I know you've been doing a lot of jokes about a pretzel," Mrs Bush said, in a rare TV appearance by a serving first lady, "so I thought I would show everyone in the United States what the pretzel looked like."

The president's seemingly unshakeable approval rating of 85% suggests the revelation will only boost his man-of-the-people image. It also means there may not be much of a market for a new Bush biography, published next month, which portrays the 43rd president as unaware of much of the popular and highbrow culture of his country.

Mr Bush had never heard of di Caprio and had not seen Titanic, the highest-grossing movie ever, writes Frank Bruni, a New York Times reporter who covered his campaign and first eight months in office.

On the other hand, he had heard of Cats - his favourite work of modern drama - and of Austin Powers. His favourite film actor is Chuck Norris.

"At long last, the Republican party had nominated its first baby boomer for the presidency, and the man they had chosen was no more culturally 'with it' than Bob Dole," Mr Bruni writes in Ambling into History, a largely affectionate portrait of the candidate who liked nothing better than to walk up and down his campaign plane operating a Billy Bass singing fish.

:p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:24 PM
Moussaoui trial put off 2 months
August 16, 2002 Posted: 2000 GMT

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A federal judge Friday postponed the trial of accused September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui for more than two months, giving standby lawyers more time to prepare his defense.

U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema postponed the trial's opening statements from October 15 to January 6. Moussaoui and defense lawyers assisting him had requested the delay in order to have more time to review the large quantity of evidence in the case.

"Although the public's right to a speedy trial is a legitimate concern, this court's paramount concern is ensuring that the defense receive a fair trial," Brinkema wrote. "The volume and complexity of the evidence in this prosecution fully support the defense request for a brief continuance of the trial date."

Moussaoui, 34, has been acting as his own lawyer since mid-June. But Brinkema assigned five attorneys to remain on standby to assist Moussaoui on legal questions, and if necessary, to cross-examine witnesses or take over the defense.

Those lawyers had asked for at least a 60-day delay, hoping to start jury selection on November 30 instead of September 30.

"This will give us time to investigate the case and prepare us for trial," Moussaoui attorney Edward MacMahon said.

The evidence includes more than a thousand CD-ROMs of documents and photographs, more than 200 computer hard drives, more than a 1,000 audio cassettes and more than 500 videotapes.

Prosecutors had opposed any delay, saying Moussaoui and the lawyers had adequate time to review the evidence against him.

"Our prosecutors were ready to start picking a jury on September 30th and proceed with the trial," said Barbara Comstock, the Justice Department director of public affairs. "However, the judge has decided to give Moussaoui more time to prepare. We will continue our preparation and look forward to the opportunity to present our case in court."

Moussaoui, a French citizen, admits belonging to al Qaeda, the terrorist group behind the September 11 attacks; swearing allegiance to its leader, Osama bin Laden; and participating in some unspecified conspiracy against Americans. But he denies playing a role in the September 11 attacks.

If convicted of the more serious of the six conspiracy charges against him, he could face the death penalty.

Moussaoui enrolled in Oklahoma and Minnesota flight schools after his arrival in the United States last year, taking pilot lessons like some of the hijackers. Prosecutors say he also underwent paramilitary training in al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan in 1998 and received money wired from the hijacking cell in Hamburg, Germany, last August.

Under the new trial schedule, potential jurors will be summoned to the courthouse to fill out questionnaires on November 18. The court will complete its review of questionnaires by December 6; lawyers will begin questioning a pool of 90 qualified jurors will begin on December 9, and the trial's opening statements will begin on January 6.

Lookit how nice we are here in America. We're willing to help out a guy we know helped kill a bunch of us. :rolleyes:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
Laura Bush confirms that pretzel size does matter

Oliver Burkeman in New York
Wednesday February 13, 2002
The Guardian

Let one thing be understood. The president of the United States may not be a master of English; he may not opt for Clintonesque working hours - he may even, according to a new biography, never have heard of Leonardo di Caprio or of veganism - but when he chokes on a pretzel, he chokes on a man-sized pretzel.
That was the message forcefully communicated by first lady Laura Bush on American television this week, when she produced a large, hard pretzel of the kind that rendered her husband briefly unconscious last month. "It isn't really a sissy pretzel," Mrs Bush told the late-night talk-show host Jay Leno.

Speculation had been rife that the president was knocked out by a tiny pretzel. But Mrs Bush revealed the truth: a tough specimen, perhaps four inches across. Mr Bush, she assured Leno, is now "practising safe snacks".

"I know you've been doing a lot of jokes about a pretzel," Mrs Bush said, in a rare TV appearance by a serving first lady, "so I thought I would show everyone in the United States what the pretzel looked like."

The president's seemingly unshakeable approval rating of 85% suggests the revelation will only boost his man-of-the-people image. It also means there may not be much of a market for a new Bush biography, published next month, which portrays the 43rd president as unaware of much of the popular and highbrow culture of his country.

Mr Bush had never heard of di Caprio and had not seen Titanic, the highest-grossing movie ever, writes Frank Bruni, a New York Times reporter who covered his campaign and first eight months in office.

On the other hand, he had heard of Cats - his favourite work of modern drama - and of Austin Powers. His favourite film actor is Chuck Norris.

"At long last, the Republican party had nominated its first baby boomer for the presidency, and the man they had chosen was no more culturally 'with it' than Bob Dole," Mr Bruni writes in Ambling into History, a largely affectionate portrait of the candidate who liked nothing better than to walk up and down his campaign plane operating a Billy Bass singing fish.

:p

LMAO! I like Bush because he's very normal. And his accent is like mine, so it's easy for me to understand. :p No matter what you think about him, though, Laura Bush is one way cool lady.

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:27 PM
I love my baby :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Scotso
08-17-2002, 10:28 PM
I'm really going for a while now, I'm going to steal my mom's new car and go boy hunting! :drool:

Lata, peeps! :D :kiss:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:29 PM
Bye Scott!

erm... good hunting

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:30 PM
Lol! :wavey: Scott! Ooooooh remeber that Michael/Lisa Marie style kiss that Al and Tipper Gore did :o No wonder he lost! No I like Bush he's funny!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:30 PM
Kathleen Koch: Slavery reparations rally
August 17, 2002 Posted: 1:33 PM EDT (1733 GMT)



CNN Correspondent Kathleen Koch


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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Supporters of a movement to compensate African-Americans for the suffering of their ancestors during slavery rallied in Washington on Saturday to focus public attention on their cause.

CNN Correspondent Kathleen Koch covered the event.

KOCH: The theme here today is they owe us, and basically what members of the African-American community are saying is they should be compensated for the unpaid labors and untold suffering under slavery that their ancestors underwent.

And they point to a promise that was made back in 1865. It was a field order made by Civil War Gen. William T. Sherman, and that was when he uttered that famous phrase that every freed slave would get "40 acres and a mule." And largely, that promise was not kept.

So organizers here say that they should get some form of compensation, if not from the U.S. government, then from firms today that are still in existence that profited from the fruits of slave labor.

They point to, say, survivors of the Holocaust, who have won reparations since the end of World War II; to Japanese-Americans who were interned during World War II and in 1988 won an official apology from the U.S. government, as well as a payment of $20,000 per person for those Japanese-Americans who were interned.

There is division, though, within the community, within the supporters of reparations as to what form exactly the reparations should take -- whether or not there should be a check for every individual or every family, or whether or not all the money should be put into some sort of national trust fund that then would be drawn on to address pressing needs in the African-American community, such as education or health care.

They're expecting people to be coming here today from roughly 60 cities. They'll be hearing from lawmakers Cynthia McKinney (D-Georgia), John Conyers, the Michigan Democrat, who, as a matter of fact, has every year since 1989 introduced legislation calling for a national commission to take a look at this issue of reparations. But the bill has never made it out of committee.

We are looking for some attendance today, but clearly not the roughly 100,000 that organizers are hoping for.

:rolleyes: We should just give everyone a mule and 40 acres in Alaska and be done with it.

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:31 PM
Cilla, you 've been creative in the Confrontation thread!

have posted my preferred quote there.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
Lol! :wavey: Scott! Ooooooh remeber that Michael/Lisa Marie style kiss that Al and Tipper Gore did :o No wonder he lost! No I like Bush he's funny!

:wavey: Scotty :kiss:

Ewww, that was gross! :p Al Gore is such a tosser. :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:32 PM
Cilla, you 've been creative in the Confrontation thread!

have posted my preferred quote there.

Thanx Mate :kiss:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:32 PM
But, erm, what are you Brits doing paying attention to American elections? We don't pay attention when y'all do it. :o :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:35 PM
http://rosecity.net/al_gore/the_kiss.jpg

ROTFLMAO!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:36 PM
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:36 PM
LOL at that, Cilla!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL
Cilla, you 've been creative in the Confrontation thread!

have posted my preferred quote there.

We had the same favorite quote. :p

And I think I'm out of news articles. :o :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
But, erm, what are you Brits doing paying attention to American elections? We don't pay attention when y'all do it. :o :p

That's coz the Brits need to suck up to you guyz with EXTENSIVE T.V Coverage :o :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick


That's coz the Brits need to suck up to you guyz with EXTENSIVE T.V Coverage :o :p

Must be pay-back for all that time we spend on your royal family. :o :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:41 PM
The Gores should take an example here with this couple::hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:41 PM
Paltrow pans British men
LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Gwyneth Paltrow's mocking complaint that British men never asked her out on dates struck a raw nerve on Friday with Britain's stiff-upper-lipped Romeos.

The American Oscar winner whose hunky Hollywood dates have ranged from Brad Pitt to Ben Affleck lamented: "British people don't seem to ask each other out." The winsome 29-year-old had just two dates when she was in London to appear in the critically acclaimed play "Proof." One was with gallant "A Knight's Tale" star James Purefoy. The name of the other date was not revealed.

British men are constantly taunted for being the epitome of reticence and Paltrow agreed they were distinctly rusty at the dating game. "If someone asks you out, they are really going out on a limb whereas in America, it happens all the time," she told Now Magazine. "Someone will come up to you and ask you for dinner and you'll say 'Sure.' It's no big deal and no weight should be attached to it. It's only dinner for God's sake," she added.

And the British press responded. "Give our British men a break, Gwyneth," pleaded the Sun in Britain.

The Daily Mail suggested Paltrow still longed for old flame Affleck, who has found new love. "The real reasons Gwyneth is unhappy: she's lost her man to Jennifer Lopez," it said.

Even The Times, once the venerable mouthpiece of the British Establishment, got into the act, offering a list of eligible bachelors who might tickle Paltrow's fancy.

BBB, you and Mazza should come Stateside to get a date. :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:41 PM
Willy :p

http://www.camelotintl.com/royal/family/images/william.jpg

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL
The Gores should take an example here with this couple::hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Awww. :hearts: :kiss: :angel: :hearts:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:44 PM
The Pefect Couple Ingrid they could teach the Gores a thing or too :p

I know i should just quit Britain and emigrate to the big ol' U S of A! :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:44 PM
oh LOL @ Paltrow article

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:45 PM
Review: Excellent battle history of 'Gettysburg'
August 13, 2002 Posted: 1:50 PM EDT (1750 GMT)

By L.D. Meagher
CNN

"Gettysburg: A Testing of Courage"
By Noah Andre Trudeau
HarperCollins
History
624 pages

(CNN) -- No military engagement in American history has given rise to more speculation, legend and mythology than the Civil War battle at Gettysburg. The events of early July 1863 lend themselves to interpretation, re-examination and embroidery. The stakes were enormously high, the price was staggering and the outcome remains debatable nearly a century and a half later.

In "Gettysburg: A Testing of Courage," Noah Andre Trudeau tells the story of what happened during those three days in Pennsylvania, on a scale ranging from the epic to the extraordinarily personal. Synthesizing his account from a vast array of sources (his bibliography alone spans 35 pages), the author imbues the narrative with a sense of immediacy, without sacrificing his view of the big picture.

Detailed assessments
Starting six weeks before the battle, Trudeau chronicles the state of the war and the military objectives of each combatant.

He follows the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia on its northward march, as well as the political intrigues that prompted a change in command for the Union Army of the Potomac in the days before the battle. He pinpoints troop placements and regimental maneuvers, while highlighting the personalities of the commanders and illuminating the lives of the men who did the fighting and dying.

His assessments are remarkably even-handed. "In the community of officers commanding corps in the Army of the Potomac," Trudeau writes, "[Major General Daniel] Sickles stood apart as the only one who had not attended West Point or served in the military prior to the war. He stood apart in other ways as well, not many of which would be considered flattering. A scarred veteran of New York City's political brawls, Sickles had thrived in the army, thanks especially to his fierce ambition, which was wedded to a reckless determination to prevail." That reckless determination, Trudeau demonstrates, nearly cost the Union Gettysburg and the war.

The author is no less frank about the Confederate effort. "July 2 {the second day of the battle} laid bare the failings of [Robert E.] Lee's command style and the dysfunctional nature of his army's operational culture. The broad front position Lee acceded to effectively isolated each corps, demanding even greater coordination on the part of his principal officers, few of whom rose to the occasion."

Making sense out of chaos
As the assembled armies exchanged furious blows, the townspeople of Gettysburg were learning first hand about the brutalities of war. Their farms became part of the battlefield and their streets became passages between engagements. Trudeau incorporates their accounts -- some of them contemporaneous -- into his narrative.

The result is a book rich in detail. His conclusions about the battle will no doubt ignite vigorous arguments among historians and Civil War buffs. There's also no doubt Trudeau makes sense out of the chaos that reigned during much of the battle.

"Gettysburg: A Testing of Courage" effectively melds history and storytelling into a book anyone can read and enjoy.

The Civil War. :o :o :o

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:45 PM
ai, you poor brits, Cilla! :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
The Pefect Couple Ingrid they could teach the Gores a thing or too :p

I know i should just quit Britain and emigrate to the big ol' U S of A! :p

Everyone should do that! :bounce: And no matter what Scott says, Texas is the best state in the Union. :D

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:46 PM
This woman is such a bloody minger :o :rolleyes: My Mum hates her guts!

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids/20020406/i/470409220.jpg

http://www.gilmer.net/royalty/charles/2014224408.jpg

:rolleyes:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:48 PM
:rolleyes: @ Camilla.

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:48 PM
'Sex and Lucia' too hot for Seattle papers
August 15, 2002 Posted: 9:57 AM EDT (1357 GMT)

SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- "Sex and Lucia" may have won awards at the June Seattle Film Festival but the city's two major newspapers are refusing to print ads for it, saying the Spanish-language film is far too sexy.

The film, scheduled to open Friday in Seattle, will not be advertised in the Seattle Times or the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, said Kerry Coughlin, a spokeswoman for the Seattle Times, which handles advertising and management for both newspapers under a joint operating agreement.

"We are not accepting ads for the film. It does not fit within our policy on what we consider to be adult entertainment," Coughlin said.

"We're not passing judgment on the film," she said.

"Sex and Lucia" is unrated and contains several explicit sexual scenes.

Palm Pictures, which distributes the film which took honors for best director and best screenplay at the Film Festival, is bristling mad at the papers' decision, especially since the Seattle Times was one of the sponsors of the film festival.

"It is a shame that these two newspapers are trying to block ads that will bring this wonderful film to the attention of the diverse readership in Seattle," Palm Pictures founder Chris Blackwell said in a statement.

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:48 PM
uch Cilla, the tampon and the :eek: :rolleyes:

don't spoil this thread with such mingers.

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:49 PM
Don't y'all agree this does the witch more justice :D


http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/images/dress-up/masks/character/camilla.jpg

Minger!

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:49 PM
LOL Cilla!

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:52 PM
'Blue Crush' crashes into theaters
Kate Bosworth and Sanoe Lake talk surfing, filming
August 16, 2002 Posted: 11:33 AM EDT (1533 GMT)

By Meriah Doty
CNN

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Take girls on surf boards, big Hawaiian waves and cutting-edge cinematography and you have the ingredients for a different kind of teen movie -- "Blue Crush," opening Friday.

"This is a girl power film. It's definitely one I think girls will relate to more than men, but as far as the cinematography in it -- it's amazing," says real-life surfer Sanoe Lake, one of the film's stars.

On top of the many sunset, surf and beach shots set to the film's soundtrack (with tracks from MTV favorites like N.E.R.D., Beth Orton, Nikka Costa, Moby and Lenny Kravitz), "Crush's" plot revolves around talented surfer Anne Marie (played by Kate Bosworth) and her dream of winning the Pipe Masters competition on the North Shore of Oahu.

The blonde tomboyish beauty and her beach-bum roomies (played by Lake and Michelle Rodriguez) struggle to make ends meet with low-wage maid jobs. Soon a dilemma unlike most seen in teenybopper drama flicks is presented to Anne Marie: Should she place her bets on getting money via fame and surfing or from her new, wealthy boyfriend?

An idea that may sound like an update of an old "Gidget" film is pulled off on the big screen partly because the girls took time to pick up the sport.

Bosworth, 19, who's being hyped as Hollywood's next "it" girl, spent two months learning how to surf before filming began. "I never expected it to be so difficult. You see videos of pro surfers and they make it look so easy. I can vouch for how hard it is," she says.

Lake brags, "Kate went out and she was catchin' waves on a short board, standing up. I know some girls who've been surfing for about two years who are still having trouble getting onto a short board."

Keepin' it real

Grazer, left, and Stockwell filmed "Crush" on location in Oahu, Hawaii.
Director John Stockwell ("crazy/beautiful") and producer Brian Grazer ("A Beautiful Mind"), who both surf recreationally, did many things to depict the authentic look and feel of surfing. Among them was hiring Lake, who had never acted before the shooting of "Crush."

The once competitive female surfer supports the realistic feel that's boasted as a selling point of the film. "John Stockwell captured the essence of what it's like to be a female surfer. ... He'd be out in the line-up sitting there on his surf board directing. And it's big pipe!"

But for those who aren't into girls on surfboards, Bosworth and Lake believe the movie is worth watching for the cinematography alone. Indeed, critics who have pooh-poohed the plot have raved about the movie's surfing sequences.

"[The filmmakers] take you out to pipeline, which is one of the heaviest waves in the world, and they'll basically take every single person sitting in their seat in the theater and bring them out into the ocean. That's what it's going to feel like," Lake says.

"You actually get to see what it looks like to be inside of a barrel from a surfer's perspective," she adds.

No girlfights

Bosworth, left, and Lake say they got along well during the filming of "Crush."
During filming, Bosworth, Rodriguez and Lake lived together in a house on Sunset Beach in Oahu.

"We never fought. We got along so well and it's interesting because we have such different personalities," Bosworth says.

Lake agrees, "We were a perfect blend. It wasn't like, 'Oh, get out of the bathroom, I need to blow-dry my hair.' Plus we're all really low maintenance. We'd all just roll outta bed and just go straight to set. It wasn't even an issue."

They say it was not the party house either. "We were on 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. At the end of the day you're done. You're just tired. You want to go to bed," Lake explains.

Both actresses are not placing their bets on acting. Bosworth has plans to attend Princeton in 2003, though she says, "You never know."

Lake plans to stay close to the water, regardless of the movie's success.

"I love acting, but we'll see what happens," she says. "I'll always be a surfer."

I have a strange urge to go see this movie. If only it didn't look so teeny-bopperish. :o I love surfing. :hearts:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:52 PM
antidote for minger pics in this thread:

(looks like "beware of an angry lleyton" warning is in place) :)

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:56 PM
http://www.lleytonhewitt.biz/lleyton1/images/smashgrab.jpg

:p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:56 PM
Review: 'Blue Crush' the competition
August 15, 2002 Posted: 4:18 PM EDT (2018 GMT)

By Owen Gleiberman
Entertainment Weekly

(Entertainment Weekly) -- ''Blue Crush'' is a surfer-babe movie so tactile it practically dunks the audience in the water.

As the pastel dawn breaks with psychedelic beauty over Oahu's North Shore, Anne Marie (Kate Bosworth), a tough but vulnerable apple-cheeked blond jock, and Eden (Michelle Rodriguez) and Lena (Sanoe Lake), the two buddies with whom she shares a tumbledown island home, get up hours before work to slip in some early board time.

On the ocean surface, the camera floats and bobs and hangs out with them, much as it did in ''Jaws,'' and as the waves arrive, many of them 30 or 40 feet tall, we're invited to suddenly stare upward, the shiny aqua walls of water looming like Godzilla, as the surfers rise to their feet and stand tall on their boards, drawing on that most singular of athletic qualities. Sublime balance? Rock-hard calf muscles? Hardly. I'm talking about the willingness to plunge into a moment of absolute topsy-turvy, torso-ripping chaos.

''Blue Crush,'' an end-of-the-summer revel in beach, sun, surf, pretty faces, and buff bods (hey, there aren't even any serious bad guys -- just a few bad bellies), is an engaging, formulaic sports drama that carries a charge of genuine excitement.

Powered by Blestenation's hip-hop remix of Bananarama's great ''Cruel Summer,'' the movie has a purely sense-orama dimension, yet John Stockwell, who cowrote and directed it, proves that it's more than possible to use thrill-ride techniques in a supple, nonbombastic way. His interweaving of digital effects, rapid-fire downshifts to slow motion and back, and whooshing, crashing, in-your-ears sound creates a foam peak momentum of exhilaration laced with anxiety.

As each new wave arrives and crests, a surfer will jockey to find an angle, and then, in that glorious instant when she's up and riding, the rush kicking in...that's when the hard part starts. The wave begins to curl and crash on top of her, and the surfer breaks left, threading herself through the eye -- a 60-ton tunnel of collapsing wave. The camera shows us just what it looks like, and more important what it feels like, when you're standing on a surging carpet of water that is breaking up into an avalanche of liquid force.

Obvious girl power
Kate Bosworth has such a perfect, American cheerleader-goddess look that it's easy, at first, not to register the character in her face. Yet she's playful in a brisk, no-nonsense way that grows on you; she gives Anne Marie the graceful, determined obsessiveness of an athlete who knows that she's fated to compete forever with herself.

It was a smart move to make a picture about new-style feminine surf bums without turning it into a teen-demagogic, girls-vs.-guys showdown. ''Blue Crush'' hardly has to proselytize for girl power -- it's there in every glance, every move, that Anne Marie and her friends make.

The movie sketches out their lifestyle, showcasing the airy, occasionally gross drudgery of their day jobs as maids at a luxury hotel. The conflicts, however, are all in Anne Marie, a great surfer who longs to be a sponsored pro, but who's hobbled by hesitation because of the nearly fatal wipeout she suffered while trying to surf one of the island's ''pipe'' waves, which are so gigantic they're legendary mortal threats.

The movie provides staggering underwater views of a ''hold down,'' when you're plunged, with total spatial disorientation, into the surf, submerged and trapped by the wave above, the coral reefs rising up to meet your head, the water exploding like a bomb. ''Blue Crush'' is built around Anne Marie's fear of that feeling every time she gets up on a board.

Class/money/commitment issue
With just one week to go until the big pipe contest, Anne Marie, battling jitters, meets Matt (Matt Davis, from ''Legally Blonde''), a cuddly and chivalrous NFL quarterback who's vacationing at the hotel along with a crew of his teammates. Fed up with her job, she agrees to give him surf lessons, and they fall into bed. The trouble is...well, actually, the only real trouble is that the movie has to trump this up into some sort of bogus class/money/commitment issue, otherwise there wouldn't be a movie.

As Eden, Michelle Rodriguez, a sexy spitfire who's in danger of turning into a ticker tape of attitude, doesn't have much to do apart from the thankless task of berating Anne Marie for copping out on surf practice. Later, Matt gets pushed around by bullies for the crime of surfing at a locals-only beach, at which point it may start to dawn on you that the movie is basically killing time before the contest.

It's worth the wait. The final 20 minutes of ''Blue Crush'' can stand as one of the few highlights in a movie summer of mostly hollow action-carnival fireworks. The trick, for once, isn't that we're watching superhuman stunts; it's that we're watching deeply human stunts. When Anne Marie gets tossed off that board, we're dying for her to stand up and face another cascading water wall, but the stakes could hardly be steeper.

As the waves arrive, each one mightier than the last, ''Blue Crush'' invites us to acknowledge, and triumph over, something blockbusters like ''Attack of the XXX Spider-Clones'' merely fantasize their way out of: the fear of flying.

Grade: B+


B+ from EW isn't bad....maybe I'll go see it after all. :D

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 10:58 PM
Even Glynn caught the minging sunglasses ailment :o And waht's with the bowl haircut :o

http://www.lleytonhewitt.biz/lleyton1/images/Sherglynn.jpg

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:59 PM
Hold on, let me be Angele:

I think Lleyton should cut back on his tournaments! Then he and Kim can get married and have kids sooner. :hearts: :angel: :hearts:

:p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 10:59 PM
That's an ooooold pic, BBB. :o

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 10:59 PM
LOL Cilla!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Hold on, let me be Angele:

I think Lleyton should cut back on his tournaments! Then he and Kim can get married and have kids sooner. :hearts: :angel: :hearts:

:p

*snigger* Right on the money BBB :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Hold on, let me be Angele:

I think Lleyton should cut back on his tournaments! Then he and Kim can get married and have kids sooner. :hearts: :angel: :hearts:

:p

LOL Marly!

Well, erm... if Kim can't roll on the floor, who could LOL


She'd have Germaine Greer's blessing!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
That's an ooooold pic, BBB. :o

Exactly! :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 11:02 PM
Peanut butter :lick:

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL


LOL Marly!

Well, erm... if Kim can't roll on the floor, who could LOL


She'd have Germaine Greer's blessing!

LMAO! Even the woman's name makes me :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL


LOL Marly!

Well, erm... if Kim can't roll on the floor, who could LOL


She'd have Germaine Greer's blessing!

LMAO!! :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Hold on, let me be Angele:

I think Lleyton should cut back on his tournaments! Then he and Kim can get married and have kids sooner. :hearts: :angel: :hearts:

:p

although... let me be me :o ... I'd say they could practise more ;)

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Peanut butter :lick:

I share your :lick: of PB :drool:

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 11:04 PM
Y'all tell me more about this Germaine Greer woman. She sounds like my kind of ridiculous person. :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:05 PM
Cilla's post covered it well

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL


although... let me be me :o ... I'd say they could practise more ;)

Well LL needs to relieve some stress at the mo and Kim is just the person for the *cough* Job :o ;) :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:08 PM
Germaine Greer
Q
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Great quotes to inspire, empower and motivate you to live the life of your dreams and become the person you've always wanted to be!
Age and Aging
Women over fifty already form one of the largest groups in the population structure of the western world. As long as they like themselves, they will not be an oppressed minority. In order to like themselves they must reject trivialization by others of who and what they are. A grown woman should not have to masquerade as a girl in order to remain in the land of the living.

Bachelor
The most threatened group in human societies as in animal societies is the unmated male: the unmated male is more likely to wind up in prison or in an asylum or dead than his mated counterpart. He is less likely to be promoted at work and he is considered a poor credit risk.

Disasters
Perhaps catastrophe is the natural human environment, and even though we spend a good deal of energy trying to get away from it, we are programmed for survival amid catastrophe.

Freedom
Freedom is fragile and must be protected. To sacrifice it, even as a temporary measure, is to betray it.

Inhibition
Yet if a woman never lets herself go, how will she ever know how far she might have got? If she never takes off her high-heeled shoes, how will she ever know how far she could walk or how fast she could run?

Love
Love, love, love -- all the wretched cant of it, masking egotism, lust, masochism, fantasy under a mythology of sentimental postures, a welter of self-induced miseries and joys, blinding and masking the essential personalities in the frozen gestures of courtship, in the kissing and the dating and the desire, the compliments and the quarrels which vivify its barrenness.

Men and Women
Man made one grave mistake: in answer to vaguely reformist and humanitarian agitation he admitted women to politics and the professions. The conservatives who saw this as the undermining of our civilization and the end of the state and marriage were right after all; it is time for the demolition to begin.

Women
Older women can afford to agree that femininity is a charade, a matter of colored hair, ecru lace and whalebones, the kind of slap and tat that transvestites are in love with, and no more

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
Germaine Greer


Love
Love, love, love -- all the wretched cant of it, masking egotism, lust, masochism, fantasy under a mythology of sentimental postures, a welter of self-induced miseries and joys, blinding and masking the essential personalities in the frozen gestures of courtship, in the kissing and the dating and the desire, the compliments and the quarrels which vivify its barrenness.



Angele will NOT be happy with that one. :o :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick


Well LL needs to relieve some stress at the mo and Kim is just the person for the *cough* Job :o ;) :p

I'm sure they've already worked off quite a lot of stress since losing earlier this week. :o :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:11 PM
LMAO! ;) :p

Murkofan
08-17-2002, 11:12 PM
LG says, "Give it a break, Mo-Mo." So I must be off for a bit. :p

:wavey: :kiss:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:14 PM
Bye Marly!

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


I'm sure they've already worked off quite a lot of stress since losing earlier this week. :o :p


ROFL

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:15 PM
:wavey: BBB!

The joy of sex during pregnancy

Some men must cope with not having sex.

"Is it normal for women to lose most of their sexual desire while they're pregnant? Before she got pregnant, our sex life was incredible."


"Unfortunately for me I find her changing body beautiful and a real turn-on, but she doesn't want sex…. I get frustrated, and she thinks I don't understand and that I'm unsupportive."


"If she's not in the mood, I don't mind as much knowing that there's a perfectly good reason for her lack of enthusiasm…."

The luckiest men are thrilled with the changes pregnancy brings to their sex life.

"My girlfriend is having our first baby in about a month. I am so attracted to her, eight months pregnant. Her larger breasts, her big belly...it turns me on. Is this normal?"


"We are in our 25th week and my wife is wearing me out..."


"There is an amazing new passion between us now that I can't begin to describe. Pregnancy seemed to bring everything inside of us out into the open. I could never have asked for anything more satisfying."

:o Please! LMAO @ Some of these men! :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly


Angele will NOT be happy with that one. :o :p

nope, she won't like Greer

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:17 PM
Cilla, where have you found that article... :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by KaseyL
Cilla, where have you found that article... :p

I typed in "The Joy of sex" on google :o ;) :p

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:25 PM
LOL Cilla

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:31 PM
WARNING:Goober Alert Goober Alert WARNING:Goober Alert Goober Alert :hearts: :angel: :hearts:

;)

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:32 PM
It's kinda funny how the pics make the kiss so long when really it was only like 1 second!

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
http://rosecity.net/al_gore/the_kiss.jpg

ROTFLMAO!

STOP HIM! He's killing her!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt


STOP HIM! He's killing her!

LMAO!

Al:You will succumb to the charms of Mr.Lover Lover :o :p

He's practically strangling her :o :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:37 PM
He's such a minger!

Why can't we have sexy leaders?

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:38 PM
Blake took the 1set off Double head 6-3 :eek: DH will probably be grateful to lose he won't wanna get his ass whipped by Paradorn again ;) That was Sweet! :D

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:40 PM
Destroy him, James!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:41 PM
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/yearinreview/field.reports/politics/link.george.w.jpg

So you're telling me this is NOT sexy.......;) :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:41 PM
i like fudge you ask me what i like i say i like fudge

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:43 PM
Ana is contageous...

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
i like fudge you ask me what i like i say i like fudge

Erm.....okaaaaaaaaayyyyyy.........

*Backs away from Scott sllllllooooooooowwwwwwlllllllyyyyy*

:p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:45 PM
I'm moving to Canada! :D

:bounce:

I can bounce!

:bounce:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:45 PM
Well, I'm off! Bedtime for me.

Hi Angele! You'll have some reading here!

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:46 PM
Bye :wavey:

Angele
08-17-2002, 11:46 PM
Hey all :wavey: Can somebody catch me on on what's going on in here lol... I missed way too many pages in here to read them all :o And I've seen my name mentioned a few times in the last page though... why? :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:47 PM
:wavey: Nite Nite Ingrid! :kiss:

http://www.atpworld.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=42701

*cough* :p

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:48 PM
g'night Ingrid! :kiss:

Angele
08-17-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
I'm moving to Canada! :D

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:49 PM
Angele, I need to be off, let's say Marly, Cilla and this one are guilty as charged...

I started something about Germaine Greer, then we came up with Kim, kids and all, stress for Lleyton,...


you better read it yourself LOL

Scotso
08-17-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
http://www.atpworld.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=42701

*cough* :p

That cute boy in the white is liking that!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:49 PM
Angie-Psycho bitch feminist wacko from outta space Germaine Greer :rolleyes: U'll just have to go back a bit-I can't xplain again :o Let's say her views are a little warped :o :rolleyes:

KaseyL
08-17-2002, 11:51 PM
My idea Scott, and now I am really off!

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:52 PM
http://www.wtaworld.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=817752

http://www.wtaworld.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=817753

Angele
08-17-2002, 11:53 PM
Ok i'll read it when I have some time lol... right now I'm much rather talk to y'all than catch up on what I missed :p

Goonergal
08-17-2002, 11:58 PM
Momo def Dani 6-2,7-6(3)

Angele
08-17-2002, 11:59 PM
Dani :sad: I like her! i wish she would of won :(

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:01 AM
I like em both so.....anyway Momo has a better chance of beating Cappy tomorrow.

http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page1/cat.gif

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:02 AM
damnit Dani :(

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:04 AM
Chins up!

http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page1/gc1.gif

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page1/gc1.gif

*kills whatever the hell that is* :o

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:08 AM
Hey! Don't be cruel it's a bubble gum character.....You obv don't have em in then! They're cute :D

Blake def DH 6-3,6-4!

http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page1/peng2.gif

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:10 AM
*climbs up on the bookcase*

AAAAHHHHH!!!!! LITTLE MINGERS ARE INVADING!!!!!!

Angele
08-18-2002, 12:12 AM
Some little things are SO cute :hearts: :hearts:

GO JAMES!!!

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:13 AM
*are ya scared..well are ya.you should be PUNK*

http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page1/wobble1.gif

Angele
08-18-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Lleyton's_Chick
*are ya scared..well are ya.you should be PUNK*

http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page1/wobble1.gif



LMAO :D :D

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:16 AM
http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/shootout.gif

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:18 AM
die freaks! :o

Angele
08-18-2002, 12:18 AM
Aww don't say that Scott :p they're cute :D

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:20 AM
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/ap/20020317/1275904009.jpg

*Sings* "It started with a kiss"

A success for Cupid's arrow :angel:

http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page2/cupid.gif

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:21 AM
ahhhhh they're attacking! *runs away*

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:22 AM
It Started With A Kiss
By: Hot Chocolate
Written by E. Brown
It started with a kiss, in the back row of the classroom
How could I resist the aroma of your perfume
You and I were inseparable, it was love at first sight
You made me promise to marry you, I made you promise to be my bride
But you were only eight years old and I had just about turned nine
I thought that life was always good, I thought you always would be mine

It started with a kiss, I never thought it would come to this
It started with a kiss, I never thought it would come to this

I remember every little thing, like fighting in the playgournd
Some good looking boys had started to hang around
That boy hurt me so bad but I was happy 'cause you cried
Still I couldn't help but notice that new distant look in your eyes
Then when you were sixteen I had just turned seventeen
I couldn't hold on to my love, I couldn't hold on to my dream

It started with a kiss, I never thought it would come to this
It started with a kiss, I never thought it would come to this

You don't remember me do you?
You don't remember me do you?

Walking down the streets again, the star of my love sotry
And my heart began to beat so fast, so clear was my memory
I heard my voice call out your name as you looked then looked away
I felt so hurt, I felt so small, it was all that I could say

You don't remember me do you?
You don't remember me do you?

It started with a kiss, I never thought it would come to this
It started with a kiss, I never thought it would come to this

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:23 AM
http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page3/heart.gif

Me muv Scotty........mwahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. ...:p

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:24 AM
The person who created those things is VERY sick! :o

Angele
08-18-2002, 12:26 AM
I love that picture :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts::hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

It's my all time favorite :angel:

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:26 AM
:hearts: :hearts: @ this lil piggy!

http://www.bubblegumclub.co.uk/Characters/Anims/page3/pig.gif

You may think the person's sick but it's a very RICH sicko :p

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:26 AM
this is Eric's and my song :D




Stars shining bright above you
Night breezes seem to whisper "I love you"
Birds singing in a sycamore tree
Dream a little dream of me.

Say "Nightie-night" and kiss me
Just hold me tight and tell me you'll miss me
While I'm alone and blue as can be
Dream a little dream of me.

Stars fading but I linger on, dear,
still craving your kiss
I'm longing to linger till dawn, dear,
just saying this:

Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you
Sweet dreams that leave all worries far behind you
But in your dreams whatever they be
Dream a little dream of me.

Goonergal
08-18-2002, 12:33 AM
Awww that's sweet :D Hey y'all what's the title of the song that goes dreeeaaaaaaaam, dream, dream dream, dreaaaaaaaam, when I want you, in my arms.....etc etc

Angele
08-18-2002, 12:33 AM
Ok I really need to catch up on everything :o

Who the hell is Eric?

Scotso
08-18-2002, 12:34 AM
uhm.... dunno :confused: