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The Australian Open

RodFan08
01-13-2005, 11:21 PM
The draw will soon be ready

kiwiteami
01-14-2005, 12:13 AM
The draw is oUT..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..first round ROCHUS!!!!! well the rest is not THAT bad but still..nOOOOOOOOO!

knight_ley
01-14-2005, 12:40 AM
If Kief makes it to the final, and plays Nadal in the final, he will have played every other player in my top 6 (most likely) because Moya is my #2, Nadal is my #3, Federer is my #4, Haas is my #5 and Safin is my #6... lol... Man, crap draw, but it will be fun to watch.

GO KIWI!!!!!!!!!

:bounce:

knight_ley
01-14-2005, 01:04 AM
Here is the full draw. (http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/scores/draws/ms/msdraw.pdf)

:eek:

RodFan08
01-14-2005, 01:12 AM
WHy is Rochus such a touphy for Kiwi? May be cuz I don't know much about him other than the cant that he upset Safin at Wimbledon years ago. All I know is that he's really short. Is he quick. Why is he a threat?

knight_ley
01-14-2005, 01:16 AM
WHy is Rochus such a touphy for Kiwi? May be cuz I don't know much about him other than the cant that he upset Safin at Wimbledon years ago. All I know is that he's really short. Is he quick. Why is he a threat?

I think she's just weary of Rochus cuz of what happened in Adelaide. The only other time they have played Kief bagelled Rochus... so :confused: Who knows how it'll go...

kfh_9118
01-14-2005, 01:38 AM
Time for revenge :fiery:

RodFan08
01-14-2005, 02:42 AM
I think she's just weary of Rochus cuz of what happened in Adelaide. The only other time they have played Kief bagelled Rochus... so :confused: Who knows how it'll go...

Yeah, but I'm wondering why Kiwi lost to him. Though I could be wrong, his height tells me that he's not gonna over power Kiwi, maybe Rochus just gets every ball back and doesn't make ue's or maybe Kiwi just didn't play his best, the last set

knight_ley
01-14-2005, 02:43 AM
AUSTRALIAN OPEN on USA Television -- print it out and tape it up!
[ all times EST ]
[ (L) = live ; (T) - tape ]

Sunday, January 16
ESPN2 : 7pm - 10pm (L)

Monday, January 17
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 1030PM - 130AM (L)

Tuesday January 18
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 11pm - 2am (L)

Wednesday January 19
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 930pm - 130am (L)

Thursday January 20
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 11pm - 2am (L)

Friday January 21
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 11pm - 230am (L)

Saturday January 22
ESPN2 : 12pm - 2pm (T)
ESPN2 : 10pm - 1am (L)

Sunday January 23
ESPN2 : 12pm - 2pm (T)
ESPN2 : 7pm - 10pm (L)

Monday January 24
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 930pm - 130am (L)

Tuesday January 25
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 930pm - 130am (L)

Wednesday January 26
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 930pm - 130am (L)

Thursday January 27
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN2 : 1130pm - 1230am (L)

Friday January 28
ESPN2 : 2pm - 5pm (T)
ESPN : 930pm - 1130pm (L)

Sunday January 30
ESPN : 12pm - 3pm (T)


:woohoo:

RodFan08
01-14-2005, 03:26 AM
Thanks simpleternity. I'm gonna do that difinatly :) Supposedly there more coverage. Let me take a look

liptea
01-14-2005, 06:32 AM
If Kief makes it to the final, and plays Nadal in the final, he will have played every other player in my top 6 (most likely) because Moya is my #2, Nadal is my #3, Federer is my #4, Haas is my #5 and Safin is my #6... lol... Man, crap draw, but it will be fun to watch.

GO KIWI!!!!!!!!!

:bounce:I totally have 5/6 of your players in my top 6 too! No wonder we get along so well! :hug:

Hard draw, but Kief is so cool, he'll do well.

RodFan08
01-14-2005, 08:34 AM
With Rochus in the first round, he could face Ginepri in the second. Have no clue what's happened to Ginepri :unsure:

Neely
01-14-2005, 09:34 AM
1st round: Kiefer vs O. Rochus
Let me say something about that, I'm quite confident that he will beat him this time! If Kiwi and his coach are clever they have a plan ready for him this time. And I think Kiefer will get it done this time; but he must be healthy and fit. This match is no match where you can rest in the 1st round.

WHy is Rochus such a touphy for Kiwi? May be cuz I don't know much about him other than the cant that he upset Safin at Wimbledon years ago. All I know is that he's really short. Is he quick. Why is he a threat?
Yeah, he is quick. And the dangerous and feared thing about Rochus is that Rochus is able to put up a brutal effort as he is a very ambitous player. He knows he is short and that he can't hit 10 aces every set and that he is willing to equalize that with effort. Often it's very tough to hit winners against him, only the best strokes score, but I see a good chance for Kiwi if he comes to the net.

On a good day, Rochus can annoy you, similiar like Canas, because he gets most of the shots back and because you as his opponent know that you have to risk even closer shots to the lines to score or set up points than usually needed against other players. Being aware of that, this increases your own rate of errors. The last perfect example of that was when I watched the Moya vs Rochus US Open match. But Kiwi's backhand is better than Moya's so I hope it won't be that easy for Rochus to shift the game to one side as he mainly did against Moya to avoid trouble.

Rochus' 5 set record is 6-10, so despite playing only for 5 or 6 years on the Tour and never making it really far in Grand Slams, he has already accumulated 16 five sets matches. In comparision, Kiwi's record is 5-8 (13 matches) and he's playing since 1995/1996.

If necessary, I hope that it's 6-8 after this match ;) But I hope that it won't get so far and that Kiwi can handle him in four sets :yeah:

Hopefully Kiefer will be able to play well :scared:

knight_ley
01-14-2005, 03:58 PM
I totally have 5/6 of your players in my top 6 too! No wonder we get along so well! :hug:

Hard draw, but Kief is so cool, he'll do well.


Kief will... I have faith in him... I've been waiting for AO since he starting hanging out in the freezer cuz I had a feeling something crazy was gonna happen... He'll prove himself :)

JMG
01-14-2005, 06:39 PM
1st round: Kiefer vs O. Rochus
Let me say something about that, I'm quite confident that he will beat him this time! If Kiwi and his coach are clever they have a plan ready for him this time. And I think Kiefer will get it done this time; but he must be healthy and fit. This match is no match where you can rest in the 1st round.



I'm just a bit afraid of not playing Sydney. The past two years he cancelled the tournaments the week before Wimbledon to have the "optimal preparation" and both times he failed in the 1st round. And now, he did it again. :o

kiwiteami
01-14-2005, 09:01 PM
Rochus will be tired cause he went so far in the past 2 weeks and Kiwi will destroy him cause..he has to,he's just better!

Space Cowgirl
01-14-2005, 10:25 PM
Rochus will be tired cause he went so far in the past 2 weeks and Kiwi will destroy him cause..he has to,he's just better!
I hope you're right, but wee Ollie is a fighter. Remember those epic matches he had in the US Open last year?

Space Cowgirl
01-14-2005, 11:04 PM
BTW, there's an interview with Kiwi on German Eurosport (http://www.eurosport.de/home/pages/v4/l1/s57/e7184/sport_lng1_spo57_evt7184_sto674592.shtml). Simple eternity and kiwiteami, you have to check it out, you're gonna be in love with the pic there!!

kiwiteami
01-14-2005, 11:38 PM
Oh my god,thanks a lot I LOVE the picture..I LOVE IT..! lol..now I'm happy! :)

knight_ley
01-15-2005, 12:23 AM
BTW, there's an interview with Kiwi on German Eurosport (http://www.eurosport.de/home/pages/v4/l1/s57/e7184/sport_lng1_spo57_evt7184_sto674592.shtml). Simple eternity and kiwiteami, you have to check it out, you're gonna be in love with the pic there!!

:eek: :drool:

YOU CALLED THAT ONE RIGHT!!!

Lime green is the new pink! haha!

:inlove:

I'm gonna post that over in interviews, so if anyone can translate it, I'd love you almost as much as I love Kiwi ;) :)

kiwiteami
01-15-2005, 12:36 AM
How can we make this picture bigger? lol I,m still drooling over it!

knight_ley
01-15-2005, 12:43 AM
How can we make this picture bigger? lol I,m still drooling over it!

I just made it a little bit bigger... I'll post it over in the picture thread :)

:drool:

kiwiteami
01-15-2005, 12:52 AM
THANK YOU..I LOVE YOU !! lol

Neely
01-15-2005, 11:05 AM
I'm just a bit afraid of not playing Sydney. The past two years he cancelled the tournaments the week before Wimbledon to have the "optimal preparation" and both times he failed in the 1st round. And now, he did it again. :o
That's true. The Wimbledon loss was really bad :banghead:
But I think that cancelling Nottingham would have worked as optimal preparation for Wimbledon because he was on a good way against Johansson in this 1st round. He was up 2-0 sets and another break, but after the rain delay the "old" Kiwi came back to the court. I think he would have gotten the job done this day, because it looked really good after two and half sets and Johansson isn't bad at all on grass ;)

kfh_9118
01-15-2005, 02:09 PM
I met Kiefer this morning (final qualifying day). He was practising with Florian Mayer ;) He looks a bit slimmer than last year, but of course healthy :D He hit the balls pretty well today and hopefully it's a good sign for his match on Monday. After the practice, I asked for his autograph & photos (my second one with him :D) and asked if he is feeling well now (which he answered 'yes').

I haven't printed out the message in "Dear Kiwi" thread since I want to leave it until Sunday to allow for more entries. I will try my best to give it to Kiwi on Monday after his match (last match in Show Court #3). I remember last year he lost his match in this court too, hopefully this year the result will be the other way around ;)

Go Go Kiwi :woohoo: :woohoo:

Neely
01-15-2005, 02:19 PM
thanks for the report, sounds great! :yeah:

knight_ley
01-15-2005, 03:20 PM
I met Kiefer this morning (final qualifying day). He was practising with Florian Mayer ;) He looks a bit slimmer than last year, but of course healthy :D He hit the balls pretty well today and hopefully it's a good sign for his match on Monday. After the practice, I asked for his autograph & photos (my second one with him :D) and asked if he is feeling well now (which he answered 'yes').

I haven't printed out the message in "Dear Kiwi" thread since I want to leave it until Sunday to allow for more entries. I will try my best to give it to Kiwi on Monday after his match (last match in Show Court #3). I remember last year he lost his match in this court too, hopefully this year the result will be the other way around ;)

Go Go Kiwi :woohoo: :woohoo:

You have to show us the picture when you get it back!!!! I'm so jealous right now :angel:

Have a great time down there!!!!! :wavey:

sol
01-15-2005, 03:23 PM
I met Kiefer this morning (final qualifying day). He was practising with Florian Mayer ;) He looks a bit slimmer than last year, but of course healthy :D He hit the balls pretty well today and hopefully it's a good sign for his match on Monday. After the practice, I asked for his autograph & photos (my second one with him :D) and asked if he is feeling well now (which he answered 'yes').

I haven't printed out the message in "Dear Kiwi" thread since I want to leave it until Sunday to allow for more entries. I will try my best to give it to Kiwi on Monday after his match (last match in Show Court #3). I remember last year he lost his match in this court too, hopefully this year the result will be the other way around ;)

Go Go Kiwi :woohoo: :woohoo:

Great report! :woohoo: Thanks! :D

Go Kiwi! :bounce:

Have a great weekend, everyone! :kiss:

kfh_9118
01-16-2005, 09:18 AM
You have to show us the picture when you get it back!!!! I'm so jealous right now :angel:

Have a great time down there!!!!! :wavey:

I've posted some photos in the AO pics thread. Sorry, the quality is not that good, I wish I have a better zoom camera :o

Neely
01-16-2005, 09:27 AM
I've posted some photos in the AO pics thread. Sorry, the quality is not that good, I wish I have a better zoom camera :o
Thanks for that, it isn't bad at all, everything is welcome :D :yeah:

Neely
01-16-2005, 04:50 PM
I'm already mentally preparing to watch Kiwi's match in about 12 hours... :yeah:

knight_ley
01-16-2005, 07:24 PM
I'm already mentally preparing to watch Kiwi's match in about 12 hours... :yeah:


I AM SO JEALOUS THAT YOU GET TO WATCH IT! *sigh*

We get Roger, Andre and Serena tonight. I am glad I always get Roger, but I'd like to switch out Andre and Serena for Kiefer and Moya... ;) Ugh... not fair!

Ok, I'm done pouting :angel:

GO KIWI !!! :bounce:

knight_ley
01-16-2005, 07:26 PM
I've posted some photos in the AO pics thread. Sorry, the quality is not that good, I wish I have a better zoom camera :o


The pictures you posted are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!! :hug:

Neely
01-16-2005, 07:29 PM
I AM SO JEALOUS THAT YOU GET TO WATCH IT! *sigh*
lets more exactly say I HOPE that I can watch it... I was looking for a match schedule what Eurosport Germany plans to televise but I couldn't find it anywhere. I hope that they show Kiwi's match, at the US Open they have done a very good job covering all the German matches, I hope they do it again. I have trust in them...

Neely
01-16-2005, 11:09 PM
Eurosport showed their match schedule:
Williams - Pin
Federer - Santoro
Kindlmann - Agassi
Malisse - Haas

they didn't have Kiwi's match listed so far, but I believe they're broadcasting from the beginning of the day until the night session match is finished. So After Kindlmann vs Agassi I have big hopes that they switch over to Kiwi's match then if they have some time left and if Kiwi's match starts or already has begun that time :yeah:

Neely
01-17-2005, 06:38 AM
Thanks Paradorn for saving break points in the fourth set and for finishing it in four sets! Kiwi's match is next now! :yeah: :banana: :)

Neely
01-17-2005, 07:05 AM
break, rebreak, break
*3-1 Kiefer
I hope he holds serve NOW :rolleyes:

Neely
01-17-2005, 07:28 AM
not good, Rochus gets the rebreak at the end of the set
5-4* Kiefer

Neely
01-17-2005, 07:40 AM
oh no, Kiwi lost the 1st set 5-7 :banghead:

Neely
01-17-2005, 08:18 AM
2nd set to Kiwi
6-2!
but he had to fight a lot, saving several critical situations, especially at the beginning and in the middle of the set

Neely
01-17-2005, 08:50 AM
good news, Kiwi is up now 2-1 sets
he took the 3rd one by a score of 6-3

Neely
01-17-2005, 09:35 AM
he lost the 4th set 2-6 :( :scared: :scared:
oh oh, I don't like him playing Rochus in a 5th set :rolleyes:

sol
01-17-2005, 10:08 AM
:awww: Rochus is leading 4-2 (30-15) in the 5th set :unsure: :mad: :banghead:

sol
01-17-2005, 10:27 AM
:awww: It's over :sad: Kiwi :smash: :banghead: :bigcry:

Neely
01-17-2005, 10:29 AM
damn, it's over now :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Kiwi lost 5-7 6-2 6-3 2-6 3-6 against Rochus

going by the livescore I wouldn't say that it was a bad match and that Kiwi didn't fight enough. He had indeed enough chances to win the 5th set, but it just wasn't meant to be and Rochus seems to be stronger at the moment.

The good thing is that Kiwi saved match points, but the bad thing is that he had 0-40 on Rochus' last service game to buy a comeback into this match, but he couldn't use it :sobbing: :sobbing:

I will tell you more after watching the tape delayed broadcast of this match on Eurosport...

snoop
01-17-2005, 12:11 PM
argh Kiwi :( :bigcry:

kfh_9118
01-17-2005, 12:44 PM
Just came back from Kiwi's match, and I can't believe it lasted for over 3.5 hours. I have been in AO since 9am until 10.30pm and got home at 11.30pm. This is the longest ever I spent my time in the AO. If it's not for Kiwi's match, I would have gone home by around 7pm. And unfortunately, after all that long, Kiwi lost his match :sad:

I will post a bit match report set by set

kfh_9118
01-17-2005, 12:59 PM
Set 1:
This should be Kiwi's set to take. Rochus didn't do anything special to take this set. It's Kiwi who lost the set, he did lots of unforced errors, lost concentration after leading 5-2, and in the end he just gave up. I would say Kiwi didn't fight enough to win this first set (like he did against Henman in US Open). If he had taken this set, Kiwi would most probably win this match in straight set :bigcry: He shouldn't let Rochus get back to his game, considering Rochus is a fighter.

Set 2:
Early second set, Kiwi still hadn't settled in the game, he struggled to hold his serve, and almost broken several times. The match itself was much closer than what's shown in the scoreline. A crucial break in the sixth game (I think) seemed to boost Kiwi's confidence and he did play a bit better in the end of second set.

Set 3:
Kiwi continued his momentum from the end of second set and win this set quite comfortably. Nothing much I can comment on this set since I went out for dinner.

Set 4:
Pretty similar scenario as in set 2, except this time the momentum was with Rochus. Kiefer lost serve and never broke back. Again, I am disappointed with Kiwi's fighting spirit today. He should at least hold his serve in the last game of 4th set and let Rochus served for the set. This way, at least Kiwi will serve first in the final set.

Set 5:
Probably this is the best set overall in the match. After fourth set, Kiwi asked for trainer to threat his feet, but I guess it's just for pre-caution. His movement seemed to be alright in the entire set. Both players held serve until 2-2, and Kiwi had a chance to break in the fifth game, but couldn't convert it. Rochus then break and hold to lead 5-2. In the eight game, Kiwi saved 2 match points (thanks to several lucky net ball for Kiwi) and he finally held. In the final game, Kiwi played great points to lead 40-0. At this stage I thought he would break and still in the match. Unfortunately, Kiwi played poorly for the next 3 points (some unreturnable serves and unforced errors :mad: ), and he then still got one more chance and couldn't take it. In the end, Rochus won and Kiefer looked really upset.

kfh_9118
01-17-2005, 01:24 PM
Here are some other interesting things that I think you might be interested to know:

* This match is really heart-breaking. It's kind of combination of Kiwi's lost to Johansson in Wimbledon and to Henman in US Open. Kiwi should have be able to won in straight set, instead he lost (Johansson's case) :sad:. From around middle set 4, Kiwi argued a lot about the line call, get into arguments with the linesman & umpire, and Kiwi was actually wrong on all of them. The calls were correct and Kiwi was hoping and imagining they'll go in his favour. I saw a bit of similarity of Kiwi in his US Open match against Henman. IMO, he should be able to control his emotion a bit better and not letting it affecting his game. I am sure he'll become a better player should he's calmer.

* Like I said before, Kiwi was the one to be blamed for his lost today. He made it happen. As you can see from the statistic, he shot lots of winners, but also lots of UEs (almost twice as many as Rochus'). Rochus was very quick on court and very consistent (few UEs). The longer the points, it's usually won by Rochus. I guess Kiwi realised that and wanted to make it shorter, hence came to the net a lot (serve volleying). Unfortunately he wasn't that good with volleys today and Rochus made lots of unreturnable passing shots as well as lobs. Also, Kiefer's serves really let him down today, esp. the first serve. He did serve lots of aces, but low % of first serve and the placements were not that good. I actually found that Kiefer's game was pretty different with the one that I know from the past. I like him because he played smart, good placement, huge serve and won lots of points from the baseline. However, I didn't see it today, maybe he tried to mix it with serve-volleying (I just feel that he is not natural with this type of game, still needs to do lots of homework if he wants to succeed).

* Kiwi's attitude and gestures on court was unbelievable today. In fact, I found him to be quite rude, especially to the ball kids. He was not hesitate to yell at the ball girls if they were late to respond to his request (such as towel, the same ball), the way he thrown the balls to the ball kids wasn't nice and profesional at all, in fact he did hit one ball girl, and not even apologizing to her. Lucky, he didn't get warning from the umpire. There was one guy sitting next to me, and at first he supported Kiefer, but after seeing Kiwi's attitude, he finally supported Rochus and really happy every time Kiefer did errors. If I wasn't his fan for many years, I would have done the same. I really wish that Kiwi will change the way he behave on court, especially to the ball kids. He needs to respect them more! Rochus on the other hand, really has a good attitude, he even smiled at his supporters during the match and helped the ball kids transferring across the balls to the other side of the court. Today, Kiwi's was in a bad mood and temper, I hardly seen him happy today.

* I tried to give the messages from "Dear Kiwi" thread to him after the match, but he ignored and walked pass me. Obviously, he is really disappointed with the lost, and I couldn't blame him for that. I don't know if I would ever have a chance to give him the thing. I won't go to AO until next Sunday (since I only took 2 days break from my work). If he is still survive in double, then I might have a chance, otherwise sorry to all of you for not being able to hand it in to Kiefer. Too bad he lost today, otherwise everything will be perfect :sad:

Better luck next time Kiwi :angel:

knight_ley
01-17-2005, 01:53 PM
My heart is broken... :sad:

knight_ley
01-17-2005, 02:27 PM
Is there any word of Kiwi doing doubles?

Neely
01-17-2005, 03:18 PM
Thanks for the very detailed reports, Henry! :yeah:

And I agree with you. For some matches, he really has to change his behaviour on court, sometimes it's just not good for himself and for his reputation if he is so pissed off and if he transforms his bad mood even on ball kids who all try to do the best possible job. I wouldn't say that's the case in every match, but I know that in some matches it definitely is and that shouldn't be and according to your reports today was again such a match. :sad: :banghead: not good!!!

Yeah, sure... I also can't blame him for ignoring the "Dear Kiwi" notes we have written to him. We fans certainly also think that this loss sucks, but most of all it's Kiwi who is upset about himself as he also had enough chances to win this match. Doesn't surprise me that he didn't pay attention to fans right after the match. :shrug:

________________________

Under the bottom line these Australian Open were disappointing, but I think he may be able to play better soon. I don't think this loss gets him too much off the good track that he was in summer last year.

JMG
01-17-2005, 03:42 PM
The teletext says he will go home.

Neely
01-17-2005, 03:53 PM
The teletext says he will go home.
can only become better for him! ;)
Well, there is quite a big break now. The next tournament is Marseille, beginning on February 7th.

JMG
01-17-2005, 03:54 PM
I haven't seen any point from that match and I won't do it. His game looks always so bad if he loses. And all the break points in the final set:( ...I remembered the Spadea match from last year when I saw that.
In Adelaide, he also shouted at the linesmen and wanted to change them as I understood. But okay, he has never been very shy in these things. I mean, the ball kids won't get damaged because of that.