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When will Roger get his coach?

LCeh
12-14-2004, 05:45 AM
Let's see what you guys think of this issue. :)

fightclubber
12-14-2004, 09:42 AM
Gotta say I voted in a year, but my feeling is hell get a new coach just when he`ll feel his tennis needs to be re- adjusted. Not before,.. guess when , if someday happens, what he wants to do do not show on the court.
Silvy :wavey:

Fergie
12-14-2004, 11:51 AM
In a year I think ... For now Rogi doesn't needs a coach ;)

ytben
12-14-2004, 01:34 PM
I don't know why but I am voting for 6 months time

RonE
12-14-2004, 06:04 PM
I am not predicitng anything :p

nguyen
12-15-2004, 01:36 AM
I dont want to "jinx" him but Im sure he'll get one when he (hopefully not) starts to..................lose, there, I said it. I really hope that day never ever comes but he might also get a coach before the RG if he really wants to win it that bad.

Jexy
12-15-2004, 01:46 AM
i said 3 months... just to be safe :P.. I mean gilbert is available now,.. and I"m sure so are other good coaches

RogiFan88
12-15-2004, 02:10 AM
Brat and Rogi?!!! perish the thought...

Daniel
12-15-2004, 06:15 AM
he doent need a coahc right now

fightclubber
12-15-2004, 10:46 AM
mAYBE HE HIRES SOME COUCHES FOR CERTAIN PRACTISES AND CAN DO IT THIS WAY. MAYBE TO PLAY RG ON CLAY HE CAN HIRE FOR A COUPLE OF PRACTISES A SPANISH OR ARGENTINA COUCH ( H GUESS ARE THE SPECIALIST ON CLAY), DO OTHER PRACTISES WITH OTHER RE NAMED COACHES FOR OTHER SURFACES,.... WHO KNOWS.
I THINK HE CAN DO IT THIS WAY. HOPE SO. I THINK MAYBE A NEW COACH CAN CHANGE HIS STYLE AND I LOVE ROGER'S SO MUCH THAT IM AFRAID OF.
SILVY :wavey: :wavey:

Daniel
12-16-2004, 08:00 AM
as Wilander said Roger has to win his mentality when playing RG. This year he was already thinking of Wimbledon while playing in Paris/.

Action Jackson
12-16-2004, 08:04 AM
Whenever he feels like it.

Mrs. B
12-16-2004, 08:44 AM
Whenever he feels like it.

genau richtig so...! :lol:

Dana
01-03-2005, 06:45 PM
January 3rd, 2005 maybe?! :)

RogiNie
01-03-2005, 06:50 PM
January 3rd, 2005 maybe?! :)

:D ;)

Dana
01-03-2005, 06:54 PM
According to l'Équipe and the BBC, he will work with Roche for about 10 weeks over one year : http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/20050103_162931Dev.html and http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4143541.stm

babsi
01-03-2005, 07:58 PM
Thanks for the links Dana :)

ten weeks sounds good to me - it´s not too long,so the focus stays with strictly tennis - the rest will be fine as it was last year.

RonE
01-03-2005, 08:06 PM
Whew good timing :)

Sounds like just the right balance he needs at this point.

Who knows, if Andre will retire at the end of the year maybe he can finally snub Cahill as his fulltime coach in 2006?

avocadoe
01-03-2005, 11:11 PM
thanks for the coach update...I was suprised to hear how relieved Roger sounds. Makes me hope he can get the kind of coaching he wants soon on a more regular basis, if that's what he wants.

federer_roar
01-04-2005, 02:55 AM
The whole story how Roger has been persuading Roche of coaching all this while reminds me of a famous chinese idiom.

The idiom was from a real story a thousand years ago in the Three Kingdoms Period. Zhuge Liang, a famous scholar, lived in seclusion in a thatched cottage. One of the king Liu Bei, hearing that Zhuge Liang was very knowledgeable and capable, went to visit him,taking gifts, hoping that Zhuge Liang would agree to assist him with statecraft. The king had to make three visits before ZhugeLiang agreed to do so, impressed by his sincerity. Zhuge Liang helped Liu Bei with all his heart, and made great achievements in both the military and political spheres. Later we use the idiom "san gu mao lu" : paying three visits to the cottage, refers to persisting with sincerity. :worship: :worship:

Now we have to wait to see whether this new cooperation will be another winning formula to take Roger to a higher level. However I will give them some time to prove that.

LCeh
01-04-2005, 03:01 AM
But Zhuge Liang served for Liu Bei until he died, while Roche is only coaching Roger 10 weeks a year. ;)

But as long as he is satisfied, it's all good. :)

yanchr
01-04-2005, 03:09 AM
The whole story how Roger has been persuading Roche of coaching all this while reminds me of a famous chinese idiom.

The idiom was from a real story a thousand years ago in the Three Kingdoms Period. Zhuge Liang, a famous scholar, lived in seclusion in a thatched cottage. One of the king Liu Bei, hearing that Zhuge Liang was very knowledgeable and capable, went to visit him,taking gifts, hoping that Zhuge Liang would agree to assist him with statecraft. The king had to make three visits before ZhugeLiang agreed to do so, impressed by his sincerity. Zhuge Liang helped Liu Bei with all his heart, and made great achievements in both the military and political spheres. Later we use the idiom "san gu mao lu" : paying three visits to the cottage, refers to persisting with sincerity. :worship: :worship:

Now we have to wait to see whether this new cooperation will be another winning formula to take Roger to a higher level. However I will give them some time to prove that.
It well reminds me of that story too :worship: Great effort by Roger :worship:

federer_roar
01-04-2005, 03:10 AM
But Zhuge Liang served for Liu Bei until he died, while Roche is only coaching Roger 10 weeks a year. ;)

But as long as he is satisfied, it's all good. :)

This is just a begining. We never know how the story will end.

Hi LCeh :wavey:

federer_roar
01-08-2005, 03:08 PM
Tony's grand plan for Roger
By JOHN THIRSK
January 9, 2005
ROGER Federer's mission to win the French Open, the only grand slam to elude him, is the reason the world No 1 wanted the best coach in the game, Tony Roche.


Special aim: The French Open still eludes Roger Federer
That's the opinion of John Newcombe, who achieved great results coaching Australia in tandem with Roche in the 1990s.

Already favourite to win back-to-back Australian Open titles starting at Melbourne Park next Monday, Federer's ambition is to become the first player in 36 years to win a calendar year grand slam.

Newcombe acknowledges that Roche, as a former French champion, has the expertise to guide Federer to victory on the red Parisian claycourts in June.

"While Roger has won claycourt events, it's a different ball game at the French Open with seven matches over the fortnight," Newcombe said.

"Rochey can definitely help because Roger hasn't yet figured out how he can win the French.

"They will work on different areas of Roger's game."

While Roche's priority remains as Optus coaching director for Tennis Australia, he has taken on a limited coaching role of 10 weeks with Federer, revolving around the four grand slams.

Federer was in Sydney last month honing his skills with Roche before playing at Doha in Qatar last week.

The claycourt mantra of Roche, who says Federer is the most complete player since dual grand slam winner Rod Laver, is basic: "Play the patient backcourt game before picking the right shot to come to the net for a winning volley.

"Also use plenty of variation with the serve – flat, slice and heavy kicker along with mixing up the ground shots.

"If the weather is hot, it will suit Federer's game with a faster surface compared to the normal slow court pace and high ball bounce."

Newcombe, who won all four grand slam doubles titles with Roche, described his mate of 45 years as a "Rock of Gilbralter".

"Rochey was asked by Federer if he was available and I know Tony wouldn't take on the job unless he wanted to," Newcombe said.

"Roger asked Tony because he knows he is the best and knows he can do something to raise his game to another level."


The Sunday Telegraph

http://sundaytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,9353,11892062-28780,00.html

RonE
01-08-2005, 04:47 PM
Thanks Federer_Roar :D

I really hope this is true- I figured that Roger did not explicitly mention the French so that the press wouldn't be all over him expecting him to do well there, but he definitely wants to break this jinx. And there is no better person for that job than Roche. Great planning :worship:

Fedex
01-08-2005, 05:38 PM
This is new news to me; the whole Roche thing. :) I havent been around for the past few days, but this does sound promising. :)

federer_roar
01-10-2005, 02:06 AM
"If the weather is hot, it will suit Federer's game with a faster surface compared to the normal slow court pace and high ball bounce."

How do your guys think of this? Maybe Roger's game suits faster surface, but I don't understand how weather can be an impact to his game. :confused: And is the high ball bounce slow court particular referred to clay court? :confused:

RogiFan88
01-10-2005, 02:08 AM
Well, in high altitude, Gstaad and Madrid, the ball will bounce higher... the surface also affects the bounce, as does the heat.

federer_roar
01-10-2005, 02:50 AM
Well, in high altitude, Gstaad and Madrid, the ball will bounce higher... the surface also affects the bounce, as does the heat.

RogFan, do you mean TMS Mardrid? I thought hardcourt is considered faster surface. :confused: