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Murray goes home Friday

cardio
01-24-2013, 09:14 AM
Federer played mediocre match vs Tsonga,if he does the same in SF, he is toast. But he usually doesnt play two crap matches in a row, he certainly is able to serve lot better. He never lost to Murray on slam and he IS mentally lot stronger if Nadal is not in picture.

So my bet is :

Federer to beat Murray 3-1 or 3-2 @3.3

GL

searchinio
01-24-2013, 09:16 AM
I see a pretty clear scenario for this one:

Roger will come out firing. He`s used to the night conditions and he has been tested here a lot and should be ready to go right from the beginning.
For Andy this tournament starts tomorrow evening (intense wise) so he`ll need some time to adapt.
Overall Murray is the clear favorit for me on this slow hardcourt. But I think the best way of betting on this one is to wait and put your stakes on him inplay as I`m absolutly sure we`ll see much much higher odds.

cardio
01-24-2013, 10:59 AM
Interesting that after Djoko destroyed Ferru, bookies ( = public opinion ) practically declared him as AO winner already. Having 1.5 even before we know who is other finalist sounds like overreacting to me.

I dont think it is so sure. Sunday is another day and Djoko may not be so brilliant in final.

So I loaded more on Fed outright @6.25. If he reaches into final, at least I have some trading room then.

Hårdkål
01-24-2013, 11:46 AM
Just bet on Federer instead.

Sigh...

Julio
01-24-2013, 12:30 PM
The key of Federer's game is his serve and nothing more. Wait and see.

August
01-24-2013, 03:17 PM
Murray (-1.5) @ 2.2

Hårdkål
01-24-2013, 05:28 PM
Murray 3-0 @ 4.84 with Pinnacle.
Murray -4.5 @ 2.5 with Ladbrokes.

mebit
01-24-2013, 05:30 PM
The key of Federer's game is his serve and nothing more. Wait and see.

meaning.........????

Hårdkål
01-24-2013, 05:35 PM
Something spiritual to be sure.

delpiero7
01-24-2013, 05:44 PM
One from the Challenger in Maui on Thursday/Friday

Michael Russell to beat Alex Kuznetsov @ 1.36

This 'rivalry' is as one sided as Nadal vs Almagro, Ferrer vs Almagro etc...

10-0 H2H to Russell, 20-2 in sets! :eek:

My only fear is that nobody beats Kuznetsov 11 times in a row...

andres111
01-24-2013, 07:29 PM
My only fear is that nobody beats Kuznetsov 11 times in a row...

:devil::worship:

Gl

nastoff
01-24-2013, 08:05 PM
I just flipped a coin and it showed Murray.

Shandy Murray
01-24-2013, 08:39 PM
I just flipped a coin and it showed Murray.

Yep I think it's pretty 50/50 as well. Just hoping for a great match.

andres111
01-24-2013, 08:50 PM
I can't be the only one to actually like all of the big 4 can I?

Yes, you can.

I know noone outside UK who like Ugly.
Roger is the king.
Rafa and Djoker are warriors.
Who is Ugly?

Shandy Murray
01-24-2013, 08:52 PM
Yes, you can.

I know noone outside UK who like Ugly.
Roger is the king.
Rafa and Djoker are warriors.
Who is Ugly?

Ugly?

Dublin Mick
01-24-2013, 09:41 PM
Thread title curse is a cert to kick in here.

I really dont like Murray at all and I have always been a Federer fan but business is business and tbh I am surprised that Federer has even gotten this far, Murray on the other hand hasnt even dropped a set. Now I am not saying Murray 3-0 but Murray is a banker imo.
I have a decent sized cash bet on him but I also have a few quid in my Betfair account that I will use in play, it would suit me if Fed breaks Murray first.
In either case this is a no brainer for me, lumping on Andy with confidence.

Of course I have been wrong before bigtime ie. It took me a long time to recover from Nadal beating Fed in a Wimbeldon final and then same again in Australia but my confidence is high here.

Do it Murray ya Jock Cock.

Dublin Mick
01-24-2013, 09:44 PM
The key of Federer's game is his serve and nothing more. Wait and see.

Really? Lol

I dont think you become the greatest tennis player ever based on your serve and nothing more, does he just serve constant aces and nothing else?

Time2burn
01-24-2013, 10:04 PM
i dont know why murray is fav 50/50 match imo muzza has been serving like crap so im not touching this match only banker is joker taking the title hes been serving great and was clutch big time holding well in the 5th against stan who was playing one of the best matches ever fed probably has a better chance against joker but i cant see him breaking joker twice a set he might get to one tb but joker will crush him

Dublin Mick
01-24-2013, 10:10 PM
Thats ok that Murray is serving crap, he still hasnt dropped a set yet and will have too much firepower and over all fitness for a has been Federer.

Bleeth
01-24-2013, 11:33 PM
Kokkinakis over Coric @1.45 (3 Units)

GL

mebit
01-24-2013, 11:39 PM
People have said everything there is to be said. But I have come to learn from experience that the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums and it will always take a whole lot of wisdom to see the traits. I have also come to realize that the eventual loser is always the one that has the most persuading stats to lure you into a false sense of security. History will always repeat itself. You just have to be lucky enough to recognize the traits of the repeat. Here is strictly why there can be only one winner.

1. The title thread - The title was put unaware of the jinx lying in wait. The jinx is governed by a dominant spirit of deception that makes you do or believe things that you ordinarily will not believe.

2. The false assumption that this is a clear opportunity for revenge for Federer from the Olympic walloping.

3. A false belief that Murray has only played softies in the preceding rounds, and that the real challenge starts here. Big lie from hell! Murray is now that good and those beatings were authentic to the core.

4.Murray has been making a lot of errors even with these low quality opposition therefore he has no chance.
5. Murray has never played at night before etc. In fact here lies the biggest reason why I believe its a Murray gala.

In summary Murray with Murray finally getting the monkey off his back, the limitation barrier has come tumbling down and a new number is in the process of being created. Here is the misery for Federer backers! You might want to be smart by playing "overs" instead. hmmmmmm! There will be no place to hide as I predict a one sided fiasco. Someone here mentioned the fact that Federer's old style tennis is gone for good and cannot fit into todays dynamism. I need to draw you to the intricate characteristic of the Federer you may end up backing. That he is really a fading concept in the current game of tennis. No longer can he win games solely based on skill; todays battle now requires a mixture of grit, grind and tenacity. Federer lacks all three at this fleeting stage of his career.

You only need to look back to the tail end of last year for the final clue. Del potro finally found the key to beating Fed and almost now seems to do it at will. Federer comes out early bouncing and sticking out the jab, then fades slowly as the body blows start to reign in. If you forget Tsonga who might never find the key, or who found the key and lost it, I really cannot see Fed coming out on top in a match designed to launch the official arrival of the Scotish Matador!!!

ProdigyEng
01-24-2013, 11:40 PM
Ugly?

Ignore the troll.

Time2burn
01-24-2013, 11:58 PM
best bet is to not bet or bet live and wait for the final i give the slight edge to fed but hope murray will win so i can unload on joker andy doesnt have the game like stan to hurt joker and his serve hasnt been great while jokers serve has been like 2011

bad gambler
01-25-2013, 06:18 AM
The key of Federer's game is his serve and nothing more. Wait and see.

I think it is concerning that Tsonga could break the Fed serve 5 times. What is one of the best returner of serves on tour able to do tonight

Julio
01-25-2013, 06:39 AM
Really? Lol

I dont think you become the greatest tennis player ever based on your serve and nothing more, does he just serve constant aces and nothing else?

It's not about kicking aces at 250 km/h ! Just zones that Fed is able to find on serve : all his game plan is based on. Then he can manage to take advantage with his forehand. If Roger puts more than 65% first serve in, he will win. If not, he will be killed.

Hårdkål
01-25-2013, 07:33 AM
i dont know why murray is fav 50/50 match imo muzza has been serving like crap so im not touching this match only banker is joker taking the title hes been serving great and was clutch big time holding well in the 5th against stan who was playing one of the best matches ever fed probably has a better chance against joker but i cant see him breaking joker twice a set he might get to one tb but joker will crush him
Because he has a greater probability of winning? :p

People have said everything there is to be said. But I have come to learn from experience that the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums and it will always take a whole lot of wisdom to see the traits.

I have also come to realize that the eventual loser is always the one that has the most persuading stats to lure you into a false sense of security.

History will always repeat itself. You just have to be lucky enough to recognize the traits of the repeat. Here is strictly why there can be only one winner.

...[mostly random BS]

If there are outcomes (winners) A and B of a match, and there are at least two forum comments suggesting A and B will win respectively, then yes – it's no wonder "the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums".

If you've come to such grand, transcendal realizations you should open up an account with Pinnacle Sports and become a billionaire!

The strangest thing. I always imaged there could be a different number of winners than one. Well, now I know – thanks!

How wise you are. :angel:

Ignore the troll.
Perhaps he finds Murray ugly. I can see how Murray fanboys are offended.

It's trolling nonetheless, though...

best bet is to not bet or bet live and wait for the final i give the slight edge to fed but hope murray will win so i can unload on joker andy doesnt have the game like stan to hurt joker and his serve hasnt been great while jokers serve has been like 2011
Truth be told, you're a bad gambler if you give Federer the edge and still do not bet at the current odds.

Then again, few would agree such is the case.

I think it is concerning that Tsonga could break the Fed serve 5 times. What is one of the best returner of serves on tour able to do tonight
Indeed.

Hola Mr. SK
01-25-2013, 07:49 AM
This thread actually makes the match fun to watch. See who of you guys are right. :) Good luck fellas.

Time2burn
01-25-2013, 07:51 AM
i said i give the slight edge to fed why would i bet if im not confident? I rather just watch to see who is playing well then bet, you dont have to bet every game plus im going to go big on joker in the final anyways

Dublin Mick
01-25-2013, 08:12 AM
Whats your version of big T2B?

I got my cash bet on Murray here but was hoping to put more on in play but the 1.45 on offer on Betfair is not doing it for me, need Fed to break back or even better win this opeing set so as I can pile into Murray even more.

Time2burn
01-25-2013, 08:35 AM
6.5k all i have right now if i can get more money from li na winning il put that too il be really fukd up if i lose but if i win im not betting 4 a while hope its good odds

Dublin Mick
01-25-2013, 09:31 AM
Thanks for winning that set Roger, it means i can get my Betfair bet on now, going to pile into 1.75 at the first chance, this will either be a very bad day or the start of a great weekend.

nastoff
01-25-2013, 10:29 AM
Does it really matter how much you bet? It's not as if betting 3, 30 or 30k is gonna give you more chance of winning, is it.

Dublin Mick
01-25-2013, 10:35 AM
Only bet what you can afford to lose.

nastoff
01-25-2013, 10:41 AM
That's what the bookies tell you. And if you can't afford it, get a loan. Anyway it looks like you're on the right player or so it seems.

Time2burn
01-25-2013, 10:57 AM
hope the odds ok after this match i see the odds dropping big time

Dublin Mick
01-25-2013, 11:04 AM
I was happy to watch 5 sets believe it or not!

Dublin Mick
01-25-2013, 11:05 AM
hope the odds ok after this match i see the odds dropping big time

What price you want on the Joker?

cardio
01-25-2013, 11:46 AM
Federer played mediocre match vs Tsonga,if he does the same in SF, he is toast. But he usually doesnt play two crap matches in a row, he certainly is able to serve lot better. He never lost to Murray on slam and he IS mentally lot stronger if Nadal is not in picture.

So my bet is :

Federer to beat Murray 3-1 or 3-2 @3.3

GL

Loss & Fail.

Dublin Mick
01-25-2013, 11:49 AM
Never a doubt and big bucks made today, I think I will spend the remainder of the weekend in a hotel room with a couple of prossies and a big bag of coke.

mebit
01-25-2013, 12:05 PM
[QUOTE=Hårdkål;13089338]Because he has a greater probability of winning? :p



If there are outcomes (winners) A and B of a match, and there are at least two forum comments suggesting A and B will win respectively, then yes – it's no wonder "the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums".

If you've come to such grand, transcendal realizations you should open up an account with Pinnacle Sports and become a billionaire!

The strangest thing. I always imaged there could be a different number of winners than one. Well, now I know – thanks!

How wise you are. :angel:


Perhaps he finds Murray ugly. I can see how Murray fanboys are offended.

It's trolling nonetheless, though...


Truth be told, you're a bad gambler if you give Federer the edge and still do not bet at the current odds.

Then again, few would agree such is the case.


Indeed.

Did you realize that I used the word "hidden" in the comments? It simply means that only discerning eyes and minds normally find such comments just like I have. Hidden also means somewhat cryptic. The clue is not always a clear yes as you must be expecting to get from the comments. They are strong provocations from certain comments that lead you to the truth which your inner man confirms. I said in my write-up that the fact that Murray had never playd at night was my biggest indication. It was only supposed to mean something to me who was zoned into what i was zoned into at the time of writing. Go and look at the history of my posts. I never ever take so much time to do a write-up such as yesterday and turn out a fool in the end. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. I am certainly on a different wave length.:D

Hårdkål
01-25-2013, 02:58 PM
i said i give the slight edge to fed why would i bet if im not confident? I rather just watch to see who is playing well then bet, you dont have to bet every game plus im going to go big on joker in the final anyways
Because you consider odds on Federer winning to actually be less than @2.

I'm personally very glad you didn't bet though, because I massively disagree with giving Federer any sort of edge. Then again, he did impress me as well.

Are you that confident in Jockey (at these odds, naturally)?

[QUOTE=Hårdkål;13089338]Because he has a greater probability of winning? :p



If there are outcomes (winners) A and B of a match, and there are at least two forum comments suggesting A and B will win respectively, then yes – it's no wonder "the winner most times of a given match is always hidden in the comments of people on the forums".

If you've come to such grand, transcendal realizations you should open up an account with Pinnacle Sports and become a billionaire!

The strangest thing. I always imaged there could be a different number of winners than one. Well, now I know – thanks!

How wise you are. :angel:


Perhaps he finds Murray ugly. I can see how Murray fanboys are offended.

It's trolling nonetheless, though...


Truth be told, you're a bad gambler if you give Federer the edge and still do not bet at the current odds.

Then again, few would agree such is the case.


Indeed.

Did you realize that I used the word "hidden" in the comments? It simply means that only discerning eyes and minds normally find such comments just like I have. Hidden also means somewhat cryptic. The clue is not always a clear yes as you must be expecting to get from the comments. They are strong provocations from certain comments that lead you to the truth which your inner man confirms. I said in my write-up that the fact that Murray had never playd at night was my biggest indication. It was only supposed to mean something to me who was zoned into what i was zoned into at the time of writing. Go and look at the history of my posts. I never ever take so much time to do a write-up such as yesterday and turn out a fool in the end. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. I am certainly on a different wave length.:D
I suppose you were always one with the spirits, after all...

Bleeth
01-25-2013, 03:47 PM
Kokkinakis over Coric @1.45 (3 Units)


WIN, easy